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		<title>By: How Will The Baucus Bill Affect Us? : NO QUARTER</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2009/09/15/finally-the-skinny-on-how-obamacare-will-be-financed/#comment-1257051</link>
		<dc:creator>How Will The Baucus Bill Affect Us? : NO QUARTER</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Sep 2009 22:01:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] they make this sound so good, where do I sign up?? Ahem. As Bronwyn&#8217;s Harbor pointed out in TWO excellent posts this week, there will be incredible costs to all of us that are being masked, or [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] they make this sound so good, where do I sign up?? Ahem. As Bronwyn&#8217;s Harbor pointed out in TWO excellent posts this week, there will be incredible costs to all of us that are being masked, or [...]</p>
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		<title>By: [Updates] What?! There&#8217;s Yet Another Tax That Average Workers Will End Up Paying For??? : NO QUARTER</title>
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		<dc:creator>[Updates] What?! There&#8217;s Yet Another Tax That Average Workers Will End Up Paying For??? : NO QUARTER</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Sep 2009 01:15:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] the 35% surtax on companies that sell &#8220;Cadillac&#8221; policies, we learned today on Fox News&#8217;s [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] the 35% surtax on companies that sell &#8220;Cadillac&#8221; policies, we learned today on Fox News&#8217;s [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Prime Obot</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2009/09/15/finally-the-skinny-on-how-obamacare-will-be-financed/#comment-1256630</link>
		<dc:creator>Prime Obot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Sep 2009 22:16:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good points, Katmoon, if you&#039;re still listening. Thanks for the cordial response. I must confess that I get defensive and then arrogant when I post on this site. But of course the fact that any time I post I automatically get called stupid, a loser, ignorant, a bot, a coward, etc., might have something to do with that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good points, Katmoon, if you&#8217;re still listening. Thanks for the cordial response. I must confess that I get defensive and then arrogant when I post on this site. But of course the fact that any time I post I automatically get called stupid, a loser, ignorant, a bot, a coward, etc., might have something to do with that.</p>
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		<title>By: allimom99</title>
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		<dc:creator>allimom99</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Sep 2009 21:02:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not really, Prime. Premiums vary WILDLY from state to state. In addition, there are high risk pools (as here in CA) where the premium for a very minimal plan reaches these numbers. I have friends who are paying over $30k/year for a very average plan - they had preexisting conditions. Nothing to keep the ins. cos. from continuing to ream these folks in the proposal.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not really, Prime. Premiums vary WILDLY from state to state. In addition, there are high risk pools (as here in CA) where the premium for a very minimal plan reaches these numbers. I have friends who are paying over $30k/year for a very average plan &#8211; they had preexisting conditions. Nothing to keep the ins. cos. from continuing to ream these folks in the proposal.</p>
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		<title>By: allimom99</title>
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		<dc:creator>allimom99</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Sep 2009 20:51:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ellen, that is almost 17,000/year - not that far off. If passed, I&#039;d expect the rate hike to make it hit the bar.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ellen, that is almost 17,000/year &#8211; not that far off. If passed, I&#8217;d expect the rate hike to make it hit the bar.</p>
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		<title>By: Just Me</title>
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		<dc:creator>Just Me</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Sep 2009 18:26:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lookie here...If we can spent $60 billion on weapon systems that either never make it off the drawing board or are obsolete we can afford health care...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lookie here&#8230;If we can spent $60 billion on weapon systems that either never make it off the drawing board or are obsolete we can afford health care&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: I'm a Linda too</title>
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		<dc:creator>I'm a Linda too</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Sep 2009 15:19:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow, no, we didn&#039;t know that, did we?  35 percent tax on private insurance , thanks Dem&#039;s for driving up cost for your special interests.

You know, I looked, in 1994 I paid 16.00 biweekly for my health care and there was no such thing as deductables.

Now I pay 15 times more, with higher costs and a tripled deductable.  I can&#039;t even get my Doctors visits covered by insurance because the deductable is so high, I&#039;d have to go to the doc&#039;s 3 times a year before they kick in.  I will not let my hubby talk me in to insurance again next year, this is OUTRAGEOUS.  And this is the negotiating Bill Boy Richarson&#039;s folks do for state bene&#039;s.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, no, we didn&#8217;t know that, did we?  35 percent tax on private insurance , thanks Dem&#8217;s for driving up cost for your special interests.</p>
<p>You know, I looked, in 1994 I paid 16.00 biweekly for my health care and there was no such thing as deductables.</p>
<p>Now I pay 15 times more, with higher costs and a tripled deductable.  I can&#8217;t even get my Doctors visits covered by insurance because the deductable is so high, I&#8217;d have to go to the doc&#8217;s 3 times a year before they kick in.  I will not let my hubby talk me in to insurance again next year, this is OUTRAGEOUS.  And this is the negotiating Bill Boy Richarson&#8217;s folks do for state bene&#8217;s.</p>
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		<title>By: Pennsylvania Caucasian</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2009/09/15/finally-the-skinny-on-how-obamacare-will-be-financed/#comment-1256388</link>
		<dc:creator>Pennsylvania Caucasian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Sep 2009 12:52:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No Republican has exposed the surtax, but a Democrat &lt;a href=&quot;http://blogs.abcnews.com/thenote/2009/09/dem-senator-warns-of-big-big-tax-on-middle-class-in-baucus-bill.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt; senator is up in arms&lt;/a&gt; about it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No Republican has exposed the surtax, but a Democrat <a href="http://blogs.abcnews.com/thenote/2009/09/dem-senator-warns-of-big-big-tax-on-middle-class-in-baucus-bill.html" rel="nofollow"> senator is up in arms</a> about it.</p>
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		<title>By: Sonic Ninja Kitty</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2009/09/15/finally-the-skinny-on-how-obamacare-will-be-financed/#comment-1256383</link>
		<dc:creator>Sonic Ninja Kitty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Sep 2009 12:04:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>YAY!  That story on the CSPAN censorship really needs some distribution.  Thank you!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>YAY!  That story on the CSPAN censorship really needs some distribution.  Thank you!</p>
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		<title>By: glennmcgahee</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2009/09/15/finally-the-skinny-on-how-obamacare-will-be-financed/#comment-1256376</link>
		<dc:creator>glennmcgahee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Sep 2009 10:43:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The worst part of this whole mess is that before a plan has even been finalized to vote on, Obummer has made a deal with the pharmacutical companies that allows them to continue their price-fixing/gouging in exchange for advertizing dollars that will be used to support a plan we and they, supposedly have not seen.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The worst part of this whole mess is that before a plan has even been finalized to vote on, Obummer has made a deal with the pharmacutical companies that allows them to continue their price-fixing/gouging in exchange for advertizing dollars that will be used to support a plan we and they, supposedly have not seen.</p>
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		<title>By: Katmoon</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2009/09/15/finally-the-skinny-on-how-obamacare-will-be-financed/#comment-1256373</link>
		<dc:creator>Katmoon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Sep 2009 10:00:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well prime when you use identifying terms such as &quot;you folks&quot; and &quot;you people&quot;, what exactly do you think you are projecting-a respectful, and earnest effort to have a conversation?

&lt;blockquote&gt;Are any of you actually willing to answer simple honest questions without the incessant rain of insults?You folks need to ...,&lt;/blockquote&gt; Those are &lt;em&gt;command&lt;/em&gt; language- words telling people your rules for thinking and conversing; y which are easily understood by posters here; further you are either a west coaster, which explains your time frame for posting responses at 1:30 and two in the morning or you prefer to respond without engaging.Finally, you also contradict yourself saying that bronwyn&#039;s story is silly, then saying later in argument you agree with it. 

For myself you come here and might as well say, &quot;stupid people listen up, I have answers and you must know them and if you don&#039;t agree or let me insult you, then you are insignificant,  and I can insult you in any fashion I choose, but you are held to a standard that is only known to me. It is like e the apology epidemic; which is an immature and insincere way to get away with purposefully trampling on people, then having an expectation of forgiveness, or worse acknowledgment of importance. At least here we don&#039;t play hide and seek verbally. I for one have no issue with owning my &quot;ugliness&quot; in posts, as civil discourse I reserve for those who engage likewise.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well prime when you use identifying terms such as &#8220;you folks&#8221; and &#8220;you people&#8221;, what exactly do you think you are projecting-a respectful, and earnest effort to have a conversation?</p>
<blockquote><p>Are any of you actually willing to answer simple honest questions without the incessant rain of insults?You folks need to &#8230;,</p></blockquote>
<p> Those are <em>command</em> language- words telling people your rules for thinking and conversing; y which are easily understood by posters here; further you are either a west coaster, which explains your time frame for posting responses at 1:30 and two in the morning or you prefer to respond without engaging.Finally, you also contradict yourself saying that bronwyn&#8217;s story is silly, then saying later in argument you agree with it. </p>
<p>For myself you come here and might as well say, &#8220;stupid people listen up, I have answers and you must know them and if you don&#8217;t agree or let me insult you, then you are insignificant,  and I can insult you in any fashion I choose, but you are held to a standard that is only known to me. It is like e the apology epidemic; which is an immature and insincere way to get away with purposefully trampling on people, then having an expectation of forgiveness, or worse acknowledgment of importance. At least here we don&#8217;t play hide and seek verbally. I for one have no issue with owning my &#8220;ugliness&#8221; in posts, as civil discourse I reserve for those who engage likewise.</p>
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		<title>By: American Girl in Italy</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2009/09/15/finally-the-skinny-on-how-obamacare-will-be-financed/#comment-1256372</link>
		<dc:creator>American Girl in Italy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Sep 2009 09:53:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Do you bother reading these posts before you just come screaming and running to defend obama?

LAWRENCE O’DONNELL:  This is already written.  It’s been released IN PRINT BY MAX BAUCUS.  &lt;strong&gt;The President went out in his speech to Congress and simply said, “I am endorsing 100% the Baucus plan.”  &lt;/strong&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Do you bother reading these posts before you just come screaming and running to defend obama?</p>
<p>LAWRENCE O’DONNELL:  This is already written.  It’s been released IN PRINT BY MAX BAUCUS.  <strong>The President went out in his speech to Congress and simply said, “I am endorsing 100% the Baucus plan.”  </strong></p>
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		<title>By: sarainitaly</title>
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		<dc:creator>sarainitaly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Sep 2009 09:45:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>well, you might be willing to stick around and argue forever, but you would be amazed at the many we get that just dump and run.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>well, you might be willing to stick around and argue forever, but you would be amazed at the many we get that just dump and run.</p>
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		<title>By: NoBamaNoWay</title>
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		<dc:creator>NoBamaNoWay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Sep 2009 08:16:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>correct; he is a tool, and that&#039;s exactly why the powers-that-be got him elected.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>correct; he is a tool, and that&#8217;s exactly why the powers-that-be got him elected.</p>
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		<title>By: stodgie</title>
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		<dc:creator>stodgie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Sep 2009 06:43:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hey prime, did you take classes in stupid or is natural?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hey prime, did you take classes in stupid or is natural?</p>
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