http://www.examiner.com/examiner/

A group of 100,000 U. S. physicians, members of Sermo, say that the American Medical Association (AMA) endorsement of government-run healthcare does not reflect the views of practicing physicians. Sermo doctors belong to an online community which is used to collaborate on difficult cases, share clinical observations and work together to achieve better patient outcomes than each could do individually

Dr. Daniel Palestrant, Sermo CE, says that Physicians are the only true advocates for their patients and this bill fails to meet what physicians need to improve the quality care they deliver….By endorsing a bill that does not adequately address concerns of physicians in this country, AMA shows again that it is out of touch with physicians and is conflicted by its own business model. He continued Physicians have voted with their feet with AMA membership now estimated at only 15-20% of U.S. physicians.

To learn more about Who Speaks for Physicians, go to:
http://industry.bnet.com/healthcare/1000913/who-speaks-for-physicians/?tag=content;col1o

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[The] Investors’ Business Daily poll purporting to show widespread opposition to health care reform among doctors is simply not credible. There are five reasons why…

http://www.fivethirtyeight.com/2009/09/ibdtipp-doctors-poll-is-not-trustworthy.html

The New England Journal of Medicine reports a poll that shows; 62.9 percent of physicians nationwide support proposals to expand health care coverage that include both public and private insurance options…

http://www.rwjf.org/healthreform/quality/product.jsp?id=48408

We’ve got one hell offa, conundrum then…
Whom to believe…
The NEJM or the IBD/TIPP…?

Still, think each issue should be judged on its own merits rather than getting into ad hominems. If I believe that, in general, our policy is wrong but on a specific issue, Obama did the right thing, I should be free to say it without worry of being called names. If I believe, as I do, that George W. Bush did some things right, and that he was basically a good man who was eventually destroyed by his political enemies, then I should be free to say it without being called names. If not, where’s the freedom? See, I was raised by liberal parents, I’d love to be a liberal, but it’s the close-mindedness of today’s average liberal blogger that is a big turn-off. Convince me I’m wrong, don’t call me a troll (or worse) and 86 me.

I’m a health actuary, by the way (independent consultant, not an insurance company employee) and the biggest mistake I see being made in this whole debate is the continued obfuscation of the true cost of healthcare delivery by arguing over who pays it. The first question should be, how much will it cost? Then once you know that, step 2 is to figure out how to finance it and then step 3 is to start to whittle away at the input costs of it.

The greater the cost, the more important it is to run the numbers first.

I read your old comments, and this is the same kind of stuff you posted last year, which is why you got a cold reception.

This blog is a mixture of liberals, former Dems, independents, conservatives and Republicans.

However, most of the people here enjoy a geniune discussion with someone even if they don’t agree. There are very few wallflowers here….lol. And the more opinions or eyes on these subjects can help strengthen or change our own views.

As far as the financial stuff. Larry Doyle, instead of Johnson takes over that part and keeps us informed on that front. But Johnson was one of the first I’ve seen to report on the commercial real estate markets being the next big issue and that was last year. Now I see it everywhere.

They were bought off,” he says of the doctors’ organization. “And the price tag was $228 billion.”

Now who was elect to go shopping on our behest???

Behold the prophetic vision foretold!
((no dump-shit,speaking to the wind); it didn’t take a prophet to see this coming!) Many saw this coming like the 5:30 to Hauppauge on the Ronkonkoma branch.

“Pay to Play” in IMAX seen with 3D spectacles is what we have here, ladies and gents.

The “eventual economics” as postulated by Prime Obot are fraught with predictable uncertainties, yet the level of honest blunt conversation regarding them, will not be had.
When people tell me that employment is a lagging indicator, all it means to me is that the worker was the first one screwed.
If for no other reason that a person does not want our Federal Government to have a bigger role than it does now, I can respect the position.
What really puts rosin on my bow is when BO Industries Inc. sees the American citizen as live stock to be used a collateral for a loan they can’t afford to finance.

As more people become eligible for Medicare it will take more money. As our seniors are living longer..it will still take more money to cover that. As we can manage more chronic diseases, that too will take more money.
The year Medicare was enacted the life expectancy was 70.2 years. So insurance on average covered someone from age 65 to around age 70. Today life expectancy is 78.1 That is 8 more years of health care coverage on even more people who are eligible. That is allot of money.