Obama Throws Afghanistan and America Under the Bus

Larry:
I feel your anger. I’m sending packages to a Sergeant in Afghanistan right now, and he tells me that the troops are losing faith in their Commander in Chief.

Obama is undermining the very fiber of this country. When you demoralize our fighting men and women, you are the lowest of the low.

The death toll is rising for America’s finest.

Make a decision, you worthless “community organizer”:
Either pull them out,
or fight to win.

I know you don’t like it when I say that this man has a plan to destroy our country, but the evidence is plain for all to see.
I truly despise this man, and have never felt this way about any President in my entire life.

Larry — I agree with every word of your post. I’m sickened and ashamed that our troops, our fine young men and women trained to defend and protect our country, are being neglected and undermined by a self-serving, lying, treacherous, worthless POS. I hope the troops know the American people still care about them and are grateful for their sacrifice.

Everyone is SO surprised!!!!
WTF?
Were you all living under a rock?
Or better…….
Inside the beltway….where brain cells go to die;
that’s assuming that the sycophantic blow jobs who go there, in the first place, have brain cells.

This is disgraceful, but I’m not surprised. I hope this wakes up the idiots who voted for this lying jackass (but I doubt it). And what in holy hell was the president of the United States of America doing on David effing Letterman while all this is going on in this country?!?!?!?! Doesn’t he have something more important to do?!?!?!?

Excellent commentary, Larry, containing righteous anger at a pontificating, posturing, prevaricating poseur. That One is everything we all feared he’d be and a whole lot “less” or “more” depending on where one’s worries lie. His any-way-the-wind-blows-politically style of leadership puts this nation at risk and for nothing more than his over-inflated sense of self-importance and need for constant attention and adoration. He is dangerous. I am wonder out loud sometimes what it will take to get the American electorate off the Kool-Aide, off the couch, and onto the streets, civilly disobedient.

Obama is a sly one. I`ll bet he is planning on sending his National Security Force over there. Ya`ll remember that. The force that is just as well funded and just as well trained as the military. I`m sure the bots are signing up in record numbers to save “THE ONE`S” reputation.

I don’t know what Obama’s strategy is for the country. I don’t think he knows and that really, really worries me. I worry about my family, my commnity and the country at large.

I think it’s clear the President is in over his head. I felt the same way about GW, and we had eight years, holding our breaths, hoping we could survive that. I’m not so sure we can take another 4 years of confusion, obfuscation and politically-dominated national and international decisions with a rank amatuer at the wheel.

Larry, you cannot beat this dead horse enough. We are so-o-o-o screwed!

Obamatrons? You brought this on our heads and you will be damned forever! And Republicans, those who decided McCain wasn’t Republican enough and held back your support and votes? You fall into the same category.

Unbelievable!

I absolutely can’t believe any of you ever thought he wouldn’t go back on his word in everything. Everything. He always has. Sometimes managing double flips with a triple axel as he whips from one position to another. He’s been 100% unreliable in his feel-good pronouncements, but not in some others; like making you serve and changing the country.

Again, why is anyone surprised? This is a man who voted present 130 times in the IL State Senate, and claimed to have “pulled the wrong lever” on several other controversial votes. When in his career has he EVER shown political courage? (And no, pretending to oppose a war he never actually opposed is not a valid example.) The frightening thing now, though, as Larry points out is that this is actually putting national security at risk. It makes me so angry–this is not a game, and instead of getting all excited by marketing hype, people should have elected a seasoned professional for the damn job!

Didn’t I read that Hillary has been pushing for more troops–can anyone confirm that?

Don’t know what the correct course of action is, I defer to the experts. But one repeated comment I am sick of hearing is: Afghanistan is where empires go to die. It is just a simpleton comment stated with little thought or analysis and repeated by even the dumbest and most uninformed in history and politics people I meet.

In that comment the cause and effect is that a power’s incursion in Afghanistan results not just in defeat but in a collapse in the power’s global strength.

So the assumption is that all other influences are the same now as they were…in the 1800’s, in the 1980’s…No consideration is given to a globalized world, to 21st century technology in weaponry and communication (civil and military),nor to factors with the population on the ground, factors of the differences of who the “enemy” is, factors of differences in strategy, factors that Afghanistan is not a balance of power campaign/an isolated incursion but the main incursion of a larger and multi-pronged campaign against a multi-national stateless foe. The moment I hear the Afghanistan war meme, I stop listening. We need 21st century analysis that include 21st century factors in the equation.

Sorry for the snarky nature of this comment, but I think we might have just found a reason to keep ACORN around…just.a.bit.longer….

Why are people surprised that someone who has spent their entire political career voting “present” hasn’t the capacity for leading?

He belongs on the Late Show – as a water boy. Oh gosh, did I say “boy”? I must be a rac*st. I’m pretty sure I received a memo about that …………………

CAROL HAKA

I agree that we need to move forward in Afghanistan. BUT! Not without a proper strategy and COIN is not it. I prefer to wait until the Obama Administration has completed its Afghanistan review before we pumps billions into a corrupt and deep dark hole…..

I’m a strong antiwar advocate and even I believe we need to act now. We need to get resources and troops in there to finish the job because waffling around is costing lives.

See if any of these strike a chord…

Profile of the Sociopath

* Glibness and Superficial Charm

* Manipulative and Conning
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* Grandiose Sense of Self
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* Lack of Remorse, Shame or Guilt
A deep seated rage, which is split off and repressed, is at their core. Does not see others around them as people, but only as targets and opportunities. Instead of friends, they have victims and accomplices who end up as victims. The end always justifies the means and they let nothing stand in their way.

* Shallow Emotions
When they show what seems to be warmth, joy, love and compassion it is more feigned than experienced and serves an ulterior motive. Outraged by insignificant matters, yet remaining unmoved and cold by what would upset a normal person. Since they are not genuine, neither are their promises.

* Incapacity for Love

* Callousness/Lack of Empathy
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* Poor Behavioral Controls/Impulsive Nature
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Not concerned about wrecking others’ lives and dreams. Oblivious or indifferent to the devastation they cause. Does not accept blame themselves, but blames others, even for acts they obviously committed.

* Lack of Realistic Life Plan/Parasitic Lifestyle
Tends to move around a lot or makes all encompassing promises for the future, poor work ethic but exploits others effectively.

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Changes their image as needed to avoid prosecution. Changes life story readily.

Oh, according to this article, Obama is considering Biden’s advice. It looks like Hillary may be opposed to that.

“President Obama is exploring alternatives to a major troop increase in Afghanistan, including a plan advocated by Vice President Joseph R. Biden Jr. to scale back American forces…………Mrs. Clinton, who opposed Mr. Biden in March, appeared to refer to this debate in an interview on Monday night on PBS. “Some people say, ‘Well, Al Qaeda’s no longer in Afghanistan,’ ” she said. “If Afghanistan were taken over by the Taliban, I can’t tell you how fast Al Qaeda would be back in Afghanistan.”

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/09/23/world/asia/23policy.html

For three years, our commanders have been clear about the resources they need for training.

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So about the time BO was the chair of a certain subcommittee that had the oversight duty for Afghanistan, he admits knowing that the Afghan effort was suffering from a lack of resources.

How is that possible he ever learned this, when BO not once held a hearing to aquire the facts on the record?
Mr. Johnson, I can’t thank you enough for making a point of BO’s in-experience in spite of being given the opportunity to learn his bonifides, and make the correct command decisions required of the POTUS.

I can visualize (ala Pat) a gaggle of Military brass or thier runners cruising the halls of congress three years ago, looking for BO, because he was the point man in the Senate for Afghanistan and finding him missing from his post.

Chaps my string to no end to see BO make a fool of himself and frag the rest of us.

Mr. Johnson can we now put to rest the “well intentioned” part of it?

I would like to take a moment and thank the staff and fabulous writers at NQ.

Mr. Johnson, any chance you or one of your piers is looking at the BO’s energy policy and National security?

Hey Harp, someone wants an Ice Cream Cone special. LOL!

This country cant wait while Obama practices his foreign policy, he is taking us down a dark and dangerous path.
Is there anyone on Capitol Hill who dares to voice an opposing view? Is there anyone left on Capitol Hill who will stick up for America and Americans?
Is there anyone left on Capitol Hill who has read the Constitution they have promised to protect?
I figure that we common folk who are on these blogs know more about the Constitution and our rights as Americans than our own representatives, we at least will do our damndest to protect it,and our rights.
Obama is playing with our lives, if he thinks for one minute that he has done anything to protect this country, he has another think coming. He lacks the experience to get any job done, and frankly those of us who voted against him knew it all along. His record or lack thereof spoke for itself and now we are all paying the price for Obama’s folly.
The sooner we get him out of the White House the better, but then who would support us in that?
I would hope by now that Obamas true colors are showing through loud and clear. I hope that those who praised this fraud for no apparent reason, now understand why we did not.
Watch out America, Obama is out to destroy all we have believed in, all we have worked for, prayed for, loved.
Each move he makes is calculated, in order to achieve his goal of destroying our country and its people.
Screw you Obama and all of you hacks on Capitol Hill, you will all burn in hell for what you are doing.

He talked the talk. but he fails to walk the walk. The leftists will not be happy until our Finest sons and daughters in the armed services are humiliated on the battlefield and brought home,heads hung low in defeat. This must not and will not stand!

Excellent piece, Mr. Johnson, and I agree with your assessment. I’ll take it even farther and state my belief that most of the objections raised against the previous administration’s war policies by those who have hijacked the Democratic Party were purely, cynically political nature. They had no actual objection to even the most over-the-line policies of the previous administration and have even continued some of them–note the present administration’s sub rosa continuation of the previous administration’s policy of extraordinary rendition. What they saw was political opportunity, and they turned it into a political weapon.

The foremost of those politically-motivated objections was (and continued to be for some time) the concept that the war in Afghanistan was “necessary and justified” while the war in Iraq was neither. Note that there is now an increasing resistance on the part of committed Leftists against the “necessary war,” and the present administration is responding to it by dragging its feet in the prosecution of that war. Now that the “necessary war” has become a serious political problem for the administration, it is dithering. While it dithers, American soldiers die.

I’m anything but a Leftist, but I have come to the conclusion that the war in Afghanistan has degenerated into a massive waste of blood and treasure and an abuse of our soldiers’ patriotic sacrifice, and will remain such as long as the present administration holds office. The idiotic ROEs imposed by the administration on our troops are tantamount to murder–that has been demonstrated, time and again, on the battlefield. The idiotic cowtowing to the demands of the corrupt Afghan government’s make it impossible to actually prosecute the war against the Taliban–which was supposed to be the misson, not “nation-building.” Until we have an administration with CINC who is willing to stand up for his nation, we should withdraw, and every member of the U.S. military should refuse to re-enlist or should resign and come home ASAP.

the apartment houses in his district with no heat in a Chicago winter told me all I wanted to know about backtrack.
When I would ask any of his supporters ” if he did not stand up for those people and took money for his campaign from the owners who would make no repairs, what do you think he will do for you or the country?”
Naturally I was called racist and a closet republican.
But they really could not give a good answer.
I do not remember the exact words he used about standing up for Muslims when the wind went against them but I did not think he would go against American troops to do so.

WOMEN WITH INTELLIGENCE AND EXPERIENCE,MEN WHO SUPPORT THEM AND COUNTRY BEFORE PARTY ALWAYS

PUMAS,BUBBAS,EQUALISTS AND THOSE PEOPLE RULE

What bothers me most about all this is what Obama influence has done to the rest of the Democrats in Congress.

Hillary said the General in charge of the Afghan War didn’t know what he was talking about when he said he needed more troops or the mission would fail. Bill Clinton seemed to partially agree with Carter when he said the far right was racist although disagreement on Healthcare was not racist. Pelosi calls us Nazis and Harry calls us evil mongers for daring to disagree on Healthcare. So many more Dems have lashed out at the voters — I can’t understand why they would think this is a good strategy. Could it be Obama’s pressure that has made them so hostile to us?

Obama seems to be an angry petulant man who numbers among his enemies the rich, the military, seniors and this country itself. He seems determined to get what he wants even when he’s not sure what that might be. I wish he would withdraw this Healthcare bill and introduce one which Republicans would also support and before making a decision on Afghanistan that he would speak to experts. The reality is however, that Obama thinks only he knows all the answers.

wanderer, Thanks for your well thought out post. By any chance did you watch Fareed Zakaria’s GPS show on CNN Sunday? His web site/e mail is taking opinions on the “stay or leave” issue in Afghanistan, you may wish to transport your post in hopes of gaining a wider audience. Zakaria thinks it absurd to stay with the hope of eventually building an Afghan force capable of policing the vast countryside; he sites the country’s tiny GDP, driving home the fact it is one of the poorest countries in the world.

wanderer, just reread your post. I have a small suggestion: nix the part near the end wherein you suggest troops “resign” or “refuse to re-enlist”, it puts the onus on the troops & more importantly resignation is just NOT an option.

Thank you Larry, thank you. This statement may pis some people off, (warning)it is a generalization.

Unless a person has skin in the game, their interest is fleeting at best. I mean that with all due respect.
Most people here know both of my kids are soldiers; one will do a first tour, the other will do a fourth. The one doing the fourth, just welcomed his daughter into the world. He has already had to miss birthday one and two for his son, he will now miss birthday 3, and birthday one for new daughter. I am just plain pissed at this point.

I would love to see a draft, let’s have a vested interest in this war for a switch instead of literally killing families by constant deployment, they can’t be a family if they can’t spend more than 9 mos to a year at a time together. My son however doesn’t want to see a draft; he has concerns over the ability to soldier up from some of these young ones still living with their parents into their twenties, not going to college.

Obama (and you know I usually refer to him as “o”) is incompetent, period.

When the commander who you personally selected to lead the war in Afghanistan tells you he needs more troops you let the request sit in your damn inbox and you hop a flight to New York City to yuck it up with Dave Letterman.

I would further state again, that I see Obama as a coward; his inability to act proves he has more of an interest in his political outcomes, than anything related to the welfare of this country and our brave and faithful fighting men and women.
I cannot suffer a liar nor a coward, Obama is both.

If I could enlist, at 53 yo, (yep, I tried) I would; even as support here, anything I can do to help our troops. The care packages help their hearts, now maybe we need to raise our voices and raise some hell to help cover their backs.

Enough of my soapbox. Again thank you Larry, you have always given me some strength in your articles addressing our troops; you stand tall in my eyes in your support and understanding; it is noticed and much appreciated.

BREAKING NEWS, Obama considering Joe Biden plan for Afghanistan, increasing Drones. Woohooo, the dim bulb in the room gets a spotlight and makes you want them to cut the plug so it can never be plugged in again!

Oh yeah, lets just create more death and maming of innocents and put the few Eye Candy, current troops, at further risk.

This plan only serves to make the Corporate Special Interests wet with excitement, but does nothing to actually benefit any goal other that profiteering at the expense of military, taxpaers and innocent civilians in Afghan.

I didn’t count the number of times Obama used “train, trainers, training” in the excerpt, but enough to signal his intentions!
He won’t wipe his feet on the military, for the Democratic Congress will do it for him!
I believe that Gen. Meyers, former Pentagon spokesman, says in his book that President Bush said “We won’t bomb sand again”!
Hell no, I did not vote for Bush, but he stood by the service men and women, once they were in the field!

“I would be a poor commander in chief if I didn’t take facts on the ground into account.”

“I’ve always said I would listen to commanders on the ground.”

“I’m going to continue to gather information to find out whether those conditions still hold,” he said. “My guiding approach continues to be that we’ve got to make sure our troops are safe and Iraq is stable.”

As Obama spoke, two of his foreign policy advisors told reporters in a conference call the current U.S. strategy in Iraq was allowing the security situation in Afghanistan to worsen and must be changed.

“My job is to make sure that the strategic issues that we face … are all taken into account and dealt with in a way that enhances America’s national security interests over the long term,” Obama said.

http://www.reuters.com/article/topNews/idUSN0319227720080703?pageNumber=2&virtualBrandChannel=0

Apparently he feels differently about Afghanistan…

Obama calls situation in Afghanistan ‘urgent’
http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/07/20/obama.afghanistan/

Obama has made Afghanistan a key focus of his foreign policy, saying he would make it the central front in the “war on terror” if elected.

Words….just words.

it’s almost like we voted in the mailroom guy on the job for 3 weeks to run our trillion dollar company,

oh wait, we did

No, it’s not that he means or does not mean what his words say. He reads them and says them but does not write them or agree with them.
Mr. Obama is not in charge he is just the figurehead and spokesman for the democratic party.
Who is in charge?
who the fok knows.

Hussein Obama should resign. If not, then he should be impeached after the 2010 congressional elections

When a soldier comes home

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sKdTUcZLSXw

The only people that should be aghast at Obama’s lies, flipflops, and blatant manipulation of our nation are those that voted for him. Everyone else knew he was a nasty character and we were headed for trouble. Nothing he does is a shock or surprise to me — it is the citizens of this nation that put up with him, drool over him, make excuses for him who I find shocking.

Of those that voted for him who are not angry with his lies, either support him no matter what he does or they are so blind to anything other than Obama-love that they cannot see or hear anything else. Frankly, unless there is some grand awakening within this nation all is lost.

Many thanks, Elaine, for your suggestions and good words. I’ll check out Zakaria.

I must stick by what I said at the last. When the CINC is incompetent, the onus is on the soldiers. Enlisted and lower-level officers can refuse to re-up, general officers (note what’s about to happen re Gen. McChrystal) may resign, and citizens may refuse to enlist in the armed forces until an incompetent CINC is replaced. This is not mutiny–I would not advocate that. This kind of resistance to an incompetent is the right and the duty of every soldier.

And speaking of rights and duty .. when the President is incompetent and the Legislative branch won’t do anything about it, the onus is on the citizen voter to replace that Legislative branch and eventually replace that incompetent President.

Katmoon’s children are soldiers, and as far as I’m concerned, they’re my children, too. Every American soldier is a member of my extended family–which has been an American military family since the Revolutionary War. My son was a Marine recruit, injured in training, never got to finish, still walks with a limp. His classmates and cousins are serving or have served in Afghanistan, Iraq, and elsewhere.

I “have skin in the game,” but so does every other American, and it’s about bloody time that they wake up and recognize that fact. Katmoon is right that many of those who don’t have a direct connection to the war tend to ignore it. What’s worse is that many of those who don’t have a direct connection to politics also ignore the civilian side.

In the end, it’s up to us, soldier and civilian, to determine what kind of leadership we have. What we have now is an empty suit incompetent who is surrounded by a cabal of unreconstructed sixties radicals, greedy corporate prostitutes, and cynical statists. Resigning, refusing to enlist or re-up, speaking out against, and voting against that is the duty of every American, soldier or civilian.

As I have said before, BHO didn’t grow up here in the 57 states of the USA, playing Little League baseball, joining the Cub scouts, driving a Chevy down to the Dairy queen for a coke. He grew up in Indonesia doing god knows what. He has no feel or sympathy for America; he is narcissistic and only craves world adulation; heading up the UN is an even greater thrill for him. I wonder if he would throw the USA under the bus for his world dreams?

He is the American Chavez.

I guess he is too busy making sure defense funds are spent elsewhere: I see by today’s printing of the federal register,(although the dates show this was in play a week ago) a Presidential Administrative order to:

Economic Community of Central African States; Eligibility to Receive Defense Articles and Services (Presidential Determination)
No. 2009–26 of September 7, 2009 ,
48363 [E9–23086] [TEXT] [PDF]
Maldives; Eligibility to Receive Defense Articles and Services (Presidential Determination)
No. 2009–25 of September 7, 2009 ,
48361 [E9–23084]

What I want to know is where the fu*k is there any military surplus right now? Hell our soldiers can’t get the things they need half the time in country.

I don’t understand why this is more important than getting his act together deciding what is going to be done regarding troops in Afghanistan.

ok i can’t quote the source as i read it in a tranlated iraqi news source. and the ole memory is just good enough to remember american sources. however the iraqi politicans are saying biben was a dismal failure in his last visit. so anything biden says do the opposite.

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