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		<title>By: SAINTIXE56</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2009/10/03/sacre-bleu-a-lesson-from-the-french/#comment-1263133</link>
		<dc:creator>SAINTIXE56</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Oct 2009 22:58:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>FRench is a well seasoned diplomatic language because it has been given the time to mature. Come to think of it one of the old diplomatic intercourse fgoes way back to...was it 496 AD when the first french king managed to get admitted as king by the Roman Empire or what was left of it at the time. So one would think that 1513 years of experience would matter. After all to my jumble knowledge, it was Villepin who showed Bush that diplomacy does matter, specially if you want to torpedo an iraqi adventure.

Sarkozy and Obama have in common an absent father. Sarkozy maternal grandfather is a greek christian-converted jew, likely knowing what was the fate of greek jews during WW2 he cant but have some missing relatives. His father is/was a hungarian impoverished aristocrat. The time to bet 3 sons, and he left his wife to deal with the kids. Sarkozy did not travel as much as Obama, but if O. had it hard being of mixed ethnicity, being not rich and looked down as half jewish by the true-born french aristocrats must not have been fun at all. In the US we have no idea of what it means , but for any european whose country still hosts aristocraty and gentry not being full blown aristocrat, being the son of divorced parents, being well not plump in the pocket...you get the picture. Those people make you feel IT that you are not one of them...mind you they are decent enough for those of us who are simply bourgeois that is until we discuss casts but again this is something you would not know
sarkozy has had an unpleasant chilhood thanks to people holding up their nose like villepin and chirac wife, humiliations he knows and he is a survivor. he has ambitions and he has been in politics climbing up since he was a teenager, yes as early as that. No easy marriage life, not easy climb, and a tendency to say what he really thi ks or a way to express his real opinion showing, he has gt a few enemies, but standing nonsense and fiddling he will not stand; obama is bound to discover little Nicolas is not a man to play with soon enough</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>FRench is a well seasoned diplomatic language because it has been given the time to mature. Come to think of it one of the old diplomatic intercourse fgoes way back to&#8230;was it 496 AD when the first french king managed to get admitted as king by the Roman Empire or what was left of it at the time. So one would think that 1513 years of experience would matter. After all to my jumble knowledge, it was Villepin who showed Bush that diplomacy does matter, specially if you want to torpedo an iraqi adventure.</p>
<p>Sarkozy and Obama have in common an absent father. Sarkozy maternal grandfather is a greek christian-converted jew, likely knowing what was the fate of greek jews during WW2 he cant but have some missing relatives. His father is/was a hungarian impoverished aristocrat. The time to bet 3 sons, and he left his wife to deal with the kids. Sarkozy did not travel as much as Obama, but if O. had it hard being of mixed ethnicity, being not rich and looked down as half jewish by the true-born french aristocrats must not have been fun at all. In the US we have no idea of what it means , but for any european whose country still hosts aristocraty and gentry not being full blown aristocrat, being the son of divorced parents, being well not plump in the pocket&#8230;you get the picture. Those people make you feel IT that you are not one of them&#8230;mind you they are decent enough for those of us who are simply bourgeois that is until we discuss casts but again this is something you would not know<br />
sarkozy has had an unpleasant chilhood thanks to people holding up their nose like villepin and chirac wife, humiliations he knows and he is a survivor. he has ambitions and he has been in politics climbing up since he was a teenager, yes as early as that. No easy marriage life, not easy climb, and a tendency to say what he really thi ks or a way to express his real opinion showing, he has gt a few enemies, but standing nonsense and fiddling he will not stand; obama is bound to discover little Nicolas is not a man to play with soon enough</p>
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		<title>By: LDW</title>
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		<dc:creator>LDW</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Oct 2009 12:45:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Watched Michael Moore&#039;s &#039;Sicko&#039; last night, and a point made by an American in Paris struck me, so I looked for the precise quote on the internet this morning:

Some of the most interesting points are made while in France, where the citizens enjoy free higher education, free health care, 35-hour work weeks, and government issued nannies (2 four-hour sessions per week of home help for mothers of newborns). One of the Americans living now in France points out, “the people in France get all this because here the government is afraid of the people, while in the States the people are afraid of the government.”</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Watched Michael Moore&#8217;s &#8216;Sicko&#8217; last night, and a point made by an American in Paris struck me, so I looked for the precise quote on the internet this morning:</p>
<p>Some of the most interesting points are made while in France, where the citizens enjoy free higher education, free health care, 35-hour work weeks, and government issued nannies (2 four-hour sessions per week of home help for mothers of newborns). One of the Americans living now in France points out, “the people in France get all this because here the government is afraid of the people, while in the States the people are afraid of the government.”</p>
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		<title>By: Brian Barker</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brian Barker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Oct 2009 21:31:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No mention of Esperanto here :)

Your readers may be interested in the following video at http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=_YHALnLV9XU    Professor Piron was a translator with the United Nations in Geneva.

A glimpse of Esperanto can be seen at http://www.lernu.net</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No mention of Esperanto here <img src='http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Your readers may be interested in the following video at <a href="http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=_YHALnLV9XU" rel="nofollow">http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=_YHALnLV9XU</a>    Professor Piron was a translator with the United Nations in Geneva.</p>
<p>A glimpse of Esperanto can be seen at <a href="http://www.lernu.net" rel="nofollow">http://www.lernu.net</a></p>
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		<title>By: Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Oct 2009 13:06:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Isn&#039;t that pretty much what he said, Lyn, that he didn&#039;t have time to do any real work since he was campaigning?  Funny - Clinton could, and did.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Isn&#8217;t that pretty much what he said, Lyn, that he didn&#8217;t have time to do any real work since he was campaigning?  Funny &#8211; Clinton could, and did.</p>
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		<title>By: FrenchNail</title>
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		<dc:creator>FrenchNail</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Oct 2009 05:09:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Or a Baudruche... Look it up</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Or a Baudruche&#8230; Look it up</p>
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		<title>By: Sacre Bleu! A Lesson From The French : NO QUARTER &#124; frenchbrite.com</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Oct 2009 04:48:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Witzend</title>
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		<dc:creator>Witzend</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Oct 2009 03:41:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hence the expression &quot;mon traducteur, mon traitre&quot; (from the Italian &quot;traduttore, traditore&quot;).

In a perfect world, there really should be a uniform language for international negotiations, but the true art of diplomacy - both language and etiquette - belongs to a time before we were introduced to such terms as superpower, WMD&#039;s and suicide bombers.

Having grown up overseas, I could not agree with you more about your understanding of geography. I&#039;ve never been to Iraq, but, in 1991, I was literally at the receiving end of an Iraqi scud missile, which landed less than 30 meters from my home. I&#039;ve tried to explain this to my American friends in terms they can understand, but as you point out, it doesn&#039;t really work.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hence the expression &#8220;mon traducteur, mon traitre&#8221; (from the Italian &#8220;traduttore, traditore&#8221;).</p>
<p>In a perfect world, there really should be a uniform language for international negotiations, but the true art of diplomacy &#8211; both language and etiquette &#8211; belongs to a time before we were introduced to such terms as superpower, WMD&#8217;s and suicide bombers.</p>
<p>Having grown up overseas, I could not agree with you more about your understanding of geography. I&#8217;ve never been to Iraq, but, in 1991, I was literally at the receiving end of an Iraqi scud missile, which landed less than 30 meters from my home. I&#8217;ve tried to explain this to my American friends in terms they can understand, but as you point out, it doesn&#8217;t really work.</p>
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		<title>By: wbboei</title>
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		<dc:creator>wbboei</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Oct 2009 03:04:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>RRRA, if there is something the French are dammed good at it is Diplomacy. In fact, when you choose a career in the Foreign Service, they call it entering The Career (entrer dans la Carriere), as in entering the Most prestigious profession
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Interesting.  I did not know that.  I assume that is where they get the term &quot;lingua franca&quot; to describe a universal language.  Its subtlety is well suited to the art of diplomacy.

Par le vous français monsieur bambi?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>RRRA, if there is something the French are dammed good at it is Diplomacy. In fact, when you choose a career in the Foreign Service, they call it entering The Career (entrer dans la Carriere), as in entering the Most prestigious profession<br />
&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;<br />
Interesting.  I did not know that.  I assume that is where they get the term &#8220;lingua franca&#8221; to describe a universal language.  Its subtlety is well suited to the art of diplomacy.</p>
<p>Par le vous français monsieur bambi?</p>
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		<title>By: Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Oct 2009 02:22:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks, Jackarooty - who knew there were so many French Proverbs?!?  The ones you picked are great!

I still cannot get over Obama holding critical information in his vest pocket...Wow.

Frenchnail, very informative - thank you!  And funny, too - well done!  

Seriously, very interesting abt the use of French in diplomatic situations.  I really do know only a little - Spanish, Greek, and Latin were the languages I studied years ago.  But I do love the language - so beautiful.  I can easily see why it would have been the language of choice for diplomacy with all of its nuances...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, Jackarooty &#8211; who knew there were so many French Proverbs?!?  The ones you picked are great!</p>
<p>I still cannot get over Obama holding critical information in his vest pocket&#8230;Wow.</p>
<p>Frenchnail, very informative &#8211; thank you!  And funny, too &#8211; well done!  </p>
<p>Seriously, very interesting abt the use of French in diplomatic situations.  I really do know only a little &#8211; Spanish, Greek, and Latin were the languages I studied years ago.  But I do love the language &#8211; so beautiful.  I can easily see why it would have been the language of choice for diplomacy with all of its nuances&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: FrenchNail</title>
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		<dc:creator>FrenchNail</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Oct 2009 02:09:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Translation:

C&#039;est dans les vieilles marmites... I like them young said Polanski.

C&#039;est le ton qui fait la chanson....Tea Parties goers are right-wing racists.

Ce que femme.... Happy wife, happy life

Comme on fait son lit... Elections do have consequences</description>
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<p>C&#8217;est dans les vieilles marmites&#8230; I like them young said Polanski.</p>
<p>C&#8217;est le ton qui fait la chanson&#8230;.Tea Parties goers are right-wing racists.</p>
<p>Ce que femme&#8230;. Happy wife, happy life</p>
<p>Comme on fait son lit&#8230; Elections do have consequences</p>
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		<title>By: FrenchNail</title>
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		<dc:creator>FrenchNail</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Oct 2009 02:03:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>RRRA, if there is something the French are dammed good at it is Diplomacy. In fact, when you choose a career in the Foreign Service, they call it entering The Career (entrer dans la Carriere), as in entering the Most prestigious profession. 

The built-in nuances and intricacies of the French Language do help a lot at it. Up until the 20th centuries all international negotiations were conducted in French. You could not be a diplomat from anywhere without being absolutely fluent in French. Nowadays, even if it not the rule anymore, the native practice of the French language forms one&#039;s mind in ways inaccessible to other nationals.

And if there is another thing the French are really good at is travelling and geography. So they understand perfectly well that unlike the Americans they are not protected by the natural barrier of an ocean from an Iranian nation on the war path. And they know quite well too, that Russia is waiting on the fist occasion possible to reoccupy its previous satellite nations. And that Russia is merely a day drive from Paris and even closer by missiles.

Imagine leaving in New York and looking at Illinois with fear (Ok not such a great exemple :)).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>RRRA, if there is something the French are dammed good at it is Diplomacy. In fact, when you choose a career in the Foreign Service, they call it entering The Career (entrer dans la Carriere), as in entering the Most prestigious profession. </p>
<p>The built-in nuances and intricacies of the French Language do help a lot at it. Up until the 20th centuries all international negotiations were conducted in French. You could not be a diplomat from anywhere without being absolutely fluent in French. Nowadays, even if it not the rule anymore, the native practice of the French language forms one&#8217;s mind in ways inaccessible to other nationals.</p>
<p>And if there is another thing the French are really good at is travelling and geography. So they understand perfectly well that unlike the Americans they are not protected by the natural barrier of an ocean from an Iranian nation on the war path. And they know quite well too, that Russia is waiting on the fist occasion possible to reoccupy its previous satellite nations. And that Russia is merely a day drive from Paris and even closer by missiles.</p>
<p>Imagine leaving in New York and looking at Illinois with fear (Ok not such a great exemple <img src='http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> ).</p>
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		<title>By: Jackarooty</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jackarooty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Oct 2009 01:55:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>C&#039;est dans les vieilles marmites qu&#039;on fait les meilleures soupes.

C&#039;est le ton qui fait la chanson.

Ce que femme veut, Dieu le veut.

Comme on fait son lit on se couche.

&lt;strong&gt;http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/French_proverbs&lt;/strong&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>C&#8217;est dans les vieilles marmites qu&#8217;on fait les meilleures soupes.</p>
<p>C&#8217;est le ton qui fait la chanson.</p>
<p>Ce que femme veut, Dieu le veut.</p>
<p>Comme on fait son lit on se couche.</p>
<p><strong><a href="http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/French_proverbs" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/French_proverbs</a></strong></p>
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		<title>By: Lyn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lyn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Oct 2009 00:37:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>EXCUUUUSE Me, BUT he had a very busy campaign to run. He could not be expected to do silly things like hold meetings that he ASKED to chair to give him cred. silly silly Ferd</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>EXCUUUUSE Me, BUT he had a very busy campaign to run. He could not be expected to do silly things like hold meetings that he ASKED to chair to give him cred. silly silly Ferd</p>
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		<title>By: Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Oct 2009 00:02:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ROTFLMAO...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ROTFLMAO&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: candymarl</title>
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		<dc:creator>candymarl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Oct 2009 23:58:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Obama is... how you say? Ah. Stinky fromage.

Signed,

The French</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Obama is&#8230; how you say? Ah. Stinky fromage.</p>
<p>Signed,</p>
<p>The French</p>
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