Public Option Turkey
By John Batchelor on October 24, 2009 at 10:30 AM in Current Affairs
In the past, Mrs. Pelosi has been capable of loose lips, zealous accusations, undisciplined divergences and vague misstatements, all typical of a mechanical imitation of the genuine looniness of Speaker Gingrich once upon a time. The game is to campaign for what you want by overpromising with what you have. Mrs. Pelosi mentions the strong support for the public option in her caucus. She is then asked about 218 votes, and she demurs. A possible translation of this hocus-pocus is that the House is maneuvering for a narrow public option victory in order to force the Senate, which votes first, to confront the war between the Democrats. There is so much noise going on here, like a B-52 releasing chaff to distract enemy SAMs, that it seems futile to speculate what Mrs. Pelosi believes is credible.
My best estimate now is that if the Democrats had the 218 they need for the health package with the public option, then they would be boasting in order to sway the reluctant Democrats in the Senate (Conrad, Lincoln, Carper). And to intimidate the United States of Snowe and her pal Susan Collins.
And if Waving a Turkey Leg at Snowe and Collins does not do it, then this campaign will easily go to a Crisis Vote before Christmas. Much more of this nervous prognosis. Lots of weeping and threats. Earmarks like wildfires. Thuggery cannot be ruled out. Home for the Holidays with a new government mandate for the beaten up members of Congress to use at the Federal ER.
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This out of place moron couldn’t tell the truth if you held agun to her ugly head ! When you think your day is going badly, just remember, somewhere there is a Mr. Pelosi.
This out of place moron couldn’t tell the truth if you held a gun to her ugly head ! When you think your day is going badly, just remember, somewhere there is a Mr. Pelosi.
Of course Pelousy has a (not very well) hidden message. The message is: “This is your brain on Botox.”
Did you have to show THAT video of San Fran Nan….my dogs took one look and now won`t come out from under the bed!!!
HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!
Somewhere among Dave, jwjr and HARP I ended up laughing so hard I spit out my iced tea. What a run!
Our last, best hope is that this turkey falls apart and they have to start from scratch, or turn their attention to the escalating financial crisis. To pass something merely to get something passed will be worse than nothing. The newest flash is that union members and government employees will get a pass on the 40% tax on their “Cadillac” plans. The rest of us get sucker-punched. This disasterous legislation will never pay for itself and the economy is already at the point of implosion.
And the WH thinks H1N1 is a crisis??? Just wait.
[...] Public Option Turkey — No Quarter [...]
Nan calls H.R. 3200, et al., a product.
Well Nan, first of who is “we all”? You have a little Commie in your pocket? The American people have recalled the product. They have recalled this product Nan before “you all” begin to printing and spending galactic amounts of tax payer money associated with it’s infrastructure to manufacture. Perhaps we need to send you a larger memo and staple it your forehead? If not this what’s it gonna take Nan?
Seymour
It’s incredible to me that they are so sure that their motives are good, are for the people. The Washington crowd needs some serious counseling in self-delusion and/or self-deception. They are not living in reality.
The “people” come yelling to try to get through that wall of self-delusionment, but then they delude themselves that these were not REAL people.
No one should be allowed to live in the Washington government environment for more than three years without having to attend rehabilitation.
Calling this half-baked POS a product assumes that some care and thought went into its production and some quality control was applied during its assembly. I see neither. So that great big equivocation falls flat.
Try using the truth, Pelousy: It is a crock of manure you’ve excreted.
Nicely said, Mr. Batchelor. My question then centers around the obvious–why do the most melodramatic (and illogical by proxy) get to be Speaker of the house nowadays? I could understand Tip O’Neill, Carl Albert, Sam Rayburn and others who actually went through the ranks, paid their dues, and actually worked at it. The last three, Pelosi, Hastert, and Newtie were/are all hacks of the worst sort–just as That One is. We are getting less and less for our hard-earned money by having politicians with no savvy whatsoever foisted on us as alleged leaders. They know nothing, do nothing, and rely on others who are essentially unsupervised to do their work for them. It is a monumental accident waiting to happen.
Just what is going on here?
I’m repeating myself but each time she comes in front of a camera and I’m caught across the room from the remote, I remember how I wept for the joy of a woman becoming Speaker; now I weep in anger and frustration every time she opens her mouth.
I am beginning to think they are trying to divert attention by the flu fear so people will go along to get along on her plot against the American people to get this POS passed.
I just received my Medicare 2010 benefits book. I have only given it a cursory look, it seems the supplemental plan I have is not going to be available to anyone not already on it. I have “Plan J” which pays all my deductible and the 20% after Medicare. Consequently, I never have a medical bill. Even though the premiums go up every year, so far it is still the best option. I am guessing that they are going to do a increase of the premiums this next year to encourage me to take a lesser plan. One surgery with 20% due from me would bring on bankruptcy so, no can do.
Just as they gave the credit industry a head start to raise interest rates to up to 30% before February, they are giving the insurance providers 4 years to gouge us to the maximum…increasing premiums and reducing coverage; people will be begging for government intervention by the time they’re through with us. A pox on
bothall their houses.make that “a big increase” rather than “a increase” …I do use “an” before vowels…unlike 0zer0.
Grammar taken, Martha.
I, too, was thrilled, as the father of a girl who is now a young woman, at the prospect of a woman leading the House. I was sorely disappointed, however, when she unilaterally decided to “take impeachment off the table”. What Speaker would have ever done that? It flew in the face of precedence and set a sorry example. To say I was outraged is an understatement. She could have stood up to both Bush and That One but caved to both. That is no example I would ever teach any of my children, female or male. You never run but stand your ground. Apparently she had none to lose or to save.
And then Pelosi did her best to make sure a better woman did not ascend higher than herself.
Agreed Ferd and Lana. I was speechless when she refused to go into the impeachment process and at the very least censure Bush. I knew then she was just an old fashioned sell-out pol. Think of how a San Francisco Democrat got away with this! Yep, they had already decided that it didn’t matter how much damage BushCo did to the country…in fact the more the better to run against him and win with a blow up doll if necessary.
The depth of the Dimocrat cynicism knows no bounds. They are finessing the recovery now to make the biggest impact just before the 2010 elections. How many will be ruined before then? Traitors to the American people one and all. My ancestors, who gave their blood to stand up to King George, would have hanged them in the town square.
Dem’s thinking they can keep claiming one thing, but making policy for their special interests, with few and very expensive pieces of candy to their voters is cost, is costing.
Now Republicans hold advantage on 10 key issues. Talk about a reversal. Just give them Dem’s enuf rope…..
Every poll shows, even if someone supports a public type option (what a phrase) they prefer to allow Congress’s existing plan openned up to Public or fix and expand Medicare as an option. But nooooo…and, no matter what, they still don’t like the bill’s Congress is trying to push through, with or without this (very expensive and non cost cutting, but increasig costs)public option.
Obama just isn’t leading on this. Healthcare comprises one SIXTH of our economy. The leader of this change needs to demonstrate some grasp of both the big picture and the details. He demonstrates neither (or he is doing his best to hide it.)
That the administration wants something, anything to pass just to put a win on the board is very worrisome.
Wish they would bite off a smaller piece, say, just getting insurance companies to stop dropping enrollees for bogus reasons would be a start.
It is a complex issue. Requires a thoughtful, deliberate reform plan. This scattershot, jittery tone from this administration means any healthcare “reform” plan will be the same. Does not inspire confidence.
From what I’ve read of the various bills (and I’ve read them all), neither he nor the Congress understands a single thing about healthcare. An analysis of the problems and a review of the various systems currently in place would have been of enormous benefit–hell, even a simple process-flow diagram might have helped them along but they didn’t even do something that fundamental. Instead, they determined who the lobbying constituencies were and added more bureaucracy to a system already top-heavy and then added a lot of nonsense crap on top of that. They then involved the IRS to make things even worse. Any version of the sh*t they’ve put together will only make things worse and not better. I’d rather have the status quo than anything these bozos have come up with.
Good point Ferd.
Of all media outlets, NPR is actually doing a really good job covering different aspects of our healthcare system as it is today and explaining how we got to this point. They’re not taking the easy out, not making out businesses, insurance companies or pharmas, to be the easy bogeyman.
The latest describes the war between pharma and insurance companies. Pharmas don’t want doctors to think about cost when prescribing medicine to patients - they want doctors to simply prescribe the most effective medicine. Insurance companies invoke copays so patients will know when one drug is costlier. Prices, premiums, escalate, etc.
Also, nobody wants to acknowledge this but, advances in medicine has progressed by leaps and bounds in the last 20 years. Nobody wants to go back to what we had 20 years ago, not even 10 years ago. I mean, how many cancer survivors do you know? I know dozens. It’s really amazing. So no wonder we’re paying more for healthcare, we’re paying for early diagnosis and more and better drugs.
Finally, way back when, before health insurance existed, medical bills could bankrupt a family. Plain and simple. We have a RIGHT to free speech. But a RIGHT to the best most expensive healthcare available? OK … do we have RIGHT to our own automobile even if we can’t pay for it? Of course we should have a RIGHT to gain ACCESS to decent healthcare provided we can pay for some of it, but not everybody has a RIGHT to Cadillac health insurance.
/end of rant!
Lately when I have been hearing her speak I have been wondering if its Age or Drugs.
She is quite confusing in and seems to not really know what she is saying lately.
Public option likely to be managed by private insurance company
http://rawstory.com/2009/10/public-option-managed-private-insurance-company/
I’d like to see how much United Health Care (AARP) fares on the public option scale. Since they handle supplemental to Medicare insurance, I’m betting they are in to this big time…especially since AARP is supporting whatever the Dims do. They are already adjusting their plans and what/who can get covered on their better options. I haven’t renewed by AARP membership. Why bother?