More Heroes at Fort Hood
By Bronwyn's Harbor on November 7, 2009 at 11:21 AM in Current Affairs
Reverend Amy wrote about the heroic civilian police officer Sgt. Kim Munley, barely five feet tall, in “The Fort Hood Shooting, And Its Hero.” And, below, I have added a NEW story published today about Sgt. Munley, courtesy of the Houston Chronicle which offers a truly detailed account of exactly what she did in those fateful seconds. First, here are some more heroes who went above and beyond at Fort Hood. I have bold-faced their identities for you. First, from the Houston Chronicle’s November 6th story, “Army: Fort Hood suspect shouted religious slogan before firing“:
[A]ll the wounded were in stable condition, including the suspect and the policewoman who shot him, Sgt. Kimberly Munley, 34.
“It was an amazing and an aggressive performance by this police officer,” said Cone, praising her for stopping the gunman despite already being wounded herself. … [Hasan] shot more than 40 people before military police and civilian police officers responded, officials said. He was wounded by a civilian policewoman, who was injured in the exchange, police said.[...]
Lt. Col. Larry Masullo, acting chief of the post’s emergency hospital, said that within minutes of the first shooting report, his staff began calling every physician, nurse and medic available.
About 100 medical personnel converged at Darnall as teams were assembled into trauma bays, he said.
Maj. Stephen Beckwith, a doctor and the post’s EMS director, said shots were still being fired when paramedics arrived on the scene.
One paramedic, who began treating people as officials said Hasan continued to fire, later suffered an “acute stress response,” he said.
Sgt. Andrew Hagerman, a military police officer, had been patrolling a housing area when he heard reports of a shooting. He said he first suspected kids with firecrackers but raced toward the scene when he realized what was happening. [...]
Beckwith said 16 trauma beds were available in the hospital, and medics and doctors treated patients quickly enough that they never ran out of beds.
“You don’t hesitate at all,” said Hagerman, who has deployed to Iraq. “And your main goal is to take the shooter down.”
From the A.P.’s “But for heroes, bloodbath could have been worse“:
Pfc. Marquest Smith, on his way to Afghanistan in January, was completing routine paperwork about a bee-sting allergy when the sounds erupted.
A loud, popping noise. Moans. The sudden, urgent shout of “Gun!”
Smith poked his head over the cubicle’s partition and saw an extraordinary sight: An Army officer with two guns, firing into the crowded room.
The 21-year-old Fort Worth native quickly grabbed the civilian worker who’d been helping with his paperwork and forced her under the desk. He lay low for several minutes, waiting for the shooter to run out of ammunition and wishing he, too, had a gun.
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Pfc. Amber Bahr, 19, of Random Lake, Wis., tore up her blouse and used it as a tourniquet on a wounded comrade. It was only later that she realized she’d been shot in the back, the bullet exiting her abdomen.
Sgt. Andrew Hagerman, a military police officer, was patrolling a housing area when word of shootings crackled over his radio.
As he arrived at the processing center, bloodied soldiers, some shirtless, were already treating each other on the grass outside, ripping pant legs off and tying off wounds. Munley—with whom Hagerman had exchanged small talk on patrols—was being loaded into an ambulance.
Hasan lay on the ground, his two handguns beside him, as medical personnel struggled to remove his handcuffs to treat his wounds.
Hagerman entered the building, took a deep breath and asked himself: “What do I need to do?”
He picked his way around the room’s edges, careful not to step in pools of blood or to kick any spent shell casings. He had seen death during his two tours in Iraq, but nothing that compared with this. …
From the November 7th edition of the Houston Chronicle, “She stood ground, even as bullets struck her“ — and yes, this is a long quote, but every word is worth reading:
FORT HOOD — However complete her training or rounded her experience, Sgt. Kimberly Munley may be forgiven if she never expected a scene quite like the one Thursday, when she found herself in a courtyard facing an Army major apparently gone berserk and a body count that would keep rising unless she stopped him.
Two quick shots from her Beretta 9 mm — pop, pop — and now Munley had the attention of the gunman. She had missed. He was angry. Now his Belgian-made 5.7 mm pistol was pointed not at the already wounded soldier he was chasing, but at Munley, a civilian police officer hired to help keep order at the sprawling base.He charged her, firing rapidly along the way. She returned fire and dropped to the ground to give herself more cover. Maj. Nidal Malik Hasan, an Army psychiatrist who in an inexplicable instant had turned from caregiver to accused mass murderer, was allegedly in the process of killing 13 people and wounding 38 more. He now had Munley in his sights.
Hasan “was interested in nothing else but trying to eliminate her as his threat,” said Chuck Medley, head of the Fort Hood police and fire departments, which are civilian operations contracted to the Army.
The two fired again, perhaps simultaneously, Medley said. Each was struck. The gunman took a bullet to the upper torso; Munley was hit in her legs and wrists. Both would survive and the carnage had ended.“He went down,” Medley said. “She eliminated the threat. She did what she was trained to do.”
And the lives she saved?
“Countless,” he said.
Second officer also fired
Munley was one of two people who shot the gunman, officials said Friday. Little information was available about Senior Sgt. Mark Todd, who also engaged the gunman and shot at him.
Munley, a 5-foot-2 weapons expert, was still on the scene when paramedics rushed Hasan to the hospital, Medley said. He visited the 34-year-old police officer in her hospital room Friday afternoon and found her in high spirits. She had only one request for her boss: Bring her husband, Staff Sgt. Matthew Munley — a soldier who recently transferred to Fort Bragg, N.C. — to Fort Hood to see her. The Army agreed, small compensation for a big act.
Surgeons repaired damage to Munley’s left leg and knee, but they still have to remove a bullet from the right thigh. She is expected to recover.
Department of the Army police officers are civilians that compensate for the deployments of military police.
“She’s a small young lady, but don’t let that fool you at all,” Medley said. “She’s very, very, very physically fit, and very capable, especially with firearms.”
Kept neighbors safe
As military wives on Munley’s street cared for families while their husbands were deployed, she would keep an eye out for them and let them know of any criminal activity, said Erin Houston, a neighbor. “I’ve always found her to be a very strong woman,” Houston said.
One night Munley shooed away a couple of men trying to break into their house, telling them, “If you try to come in, I’m going to shoot you,” Houston said. “After they went away, she walked the neighborhood — by herself — to make sure they were nowhere around.”
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Lastly, here’s a great story that Sara in Italy discovered, from MSN, “Military hails 2 heroes in Fort Hood rampage,” with more details about the 19-year-old nutritionist who was so brave:
FORT HOOD, Texas - The top commander at Fort Hood is crediting a civilian police officer for stopping the shooting rampage that killed 13 people at the Texas post. Lt. Gen. Bob Cone also hailed a young Army nutritionist who helped wounded victims.
Both women heroically intervened despite being shot.
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Cone also hailed Amber Bahr, 19, as an “amazing young lady.”
The commander told NBC’s TODAY show that the nutritionist put a tourniquet on a wounded soldier and carried him out to medical care. And only after she had taken care of others did she realize she had been shot, he said.
‘In and out of pain’
On Thursday, her mother, Lisa Pfund, told the Sheboygan Press that she spoke briefly to Bahr after she was taken to a community hospital.
“I actually got to talk to Amber and I talked to her for about 30 seconds and she was in a lot of pain,” Pfund said. “She couldn’t tell me nothing, either.”
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Later that night, she was able to speak with her recovering daughter, she told the Sheboygan Press. She was “in and out of pain” and on medication but in good spirits, adding that she tried to help others during the rampage, the Sheboygan Press reported. …
I am sure that there were countless others that day who were extraordinarily brave. Thank you to them all. And, if YOU spotted a story we haven’t included, please share it.
Here’s the ending of today’s Chronicle story:
Munley completed 80 hours of firearms instructor certification taught by Texas A&M University’s Texas Engineering Extension Service last September, said Lee Santo, the TEEX training manager. “She knows what she’s doing with a pistol in her hand,” he said.
Nobody will ever doubt it.
“She ran into gunfire and stopped the bad guy,” Santo said. “I think she’s a hero.”
Nobody would doubt that, either.









































Thanks for the great article.
Anyone knows that one Texas mom is more courageous than 10 Muslim men. Better put Hasan in a Burqa because he’s her bitch now!!!
Thank you for this great article.
Well, she’s actually from NC! But given her fortitude, she definitely fits in with Texas.
I lived in Texas for a long time, my kids were born there. I would dare some foreign invading force to try to enter the U.S. through Texas. Texas moms, dads and even some kids would school them right quick. I don’t know why some parts of the U.S. have disdain for this. It is one of our greatest strengths… the American spirit. There are a lot of people in parts of the U.S. like the northeast… that in my opinion could stand some lessons in patriotism and the American spirit from Texans.
And from the Volunteer State which I now call home.
And thanks to Bronwyn for this great update.
Given Texas’ history, that is especially true. Tennessee volunteers helped Texas fight for freedom and independence at a time when the U.S. army was being politically correct with the government of Mexico. We might do well to remember that, because what goes around comes around and we never know on what front the battle for freedom will come. We just know it is coming, because that battle is ongoing, and is a reflection of the good vs evil struggles we see played out everyday.
the good people of texas are made up of people from every other state in the union and of course other countries. our original settlers comprised americans mostly moving here for a frest start. and they still are. so texas is the home of many americans and we are all texans in our heart.
As I mentioned on Amy’s post yesterday, this is a well-deserved tribute to Munley and the others who no doubt saved countless lives. I’ve heard this before about wounded people who are able to keep going, sometimes not even realizing they’ve been injured. I guess it’s the adrenaline, training and plain old moxie. But, it still amazes me.
Glad to hear these women are doing okay.
Wow, only 5′2″, she kinda reminds me of that Canadian girl who beat up a bunch of British soldiers not too long ago.
Also, I read that Bush went to Ft. Hood on Friday for a photo-op. The audacity of that cretin, the blood of the dead and wounded fall squarely on his shoulders.
“The audacity of that cretin, the blood of the dead and wounded fall squarely on his shoulders.”
If you honestly believe that Bush is responsible for some crazy man going berserk, you are a complete and total nutter.
By many news accounts, it was Bush’s foreign policy that drove a gentle caregiver to the breaking point. Bush may not have been the one pulling the trigger, but he incited it. Ft. Hood should have barred his entrance and send a message that he is not welcome.
“By many news accounts, it was Bush’s foreign policy that drove a gentle caregiver to the breaking point.”
Oh. My. God.
You really are crazy.
Seriously batsh*t nuts.
“a gentle caregiver”?
Pushed over the edge by “Bush’s foreign policy”?
Gimme a break.
So are you now setting up a pre-defense for your going nuts and over the edge because you apparently find Bush’s foreign policy so heinous that you think it incites murder?
Hm, that must explain all those Jews who went on shooting sprees after hearing about the holocaust. Oh, wait, that’s right, there WERE no Jews who went on killing sprees because of Hitler’s foreign policy. Hm. I wonder why that is? Perhaps it’s because the Jewish religion hasn’t called a JIHAD on the Western World?
You are beyond hope.
Unfreakin’believable.
I haven’t set up any defense. We have all know for many years that Bush’s policies have radicalized Muslims all across the world, and that we are less safe for it. It would appear his reckless policies have come home to roost. That’s why, now more than ever, we need President Obama to help heal the wounds Bush had created.
“We have all know for many years that Bush’s policies have radicalized Muslims all across the world, and that we are less safe for it.”
“WE” do not all AGREE on this premise. Hello, 9/11 happened BEFORE we went to Iraq.
I for one am glad we went to Iraq and took Saddam Hussein out.
And fundamentalist Muslims have been insane for years before Bush even took office. Hell, they’ve been insane for centuries.
Blaming this incident on Bush is absolutely ridiculous, and thinking that America should just cower in a corner rather than stick up for itself or risk “stirring up the Muslims” is totally stupid.
So gee, I guess police shouldn’t go into crime ridden areas and try to pick up drug dealers, after all, that’s just going to incite the drug dealers to hate police more and make them more violent.
Such utter nonsensical logic. (Or really, a lack of logic.)
They are still mad about the crusades. But if they want to wear medieval desert nomad garb around the modern world… more power to them. But, when they try to impose their cult upon free people is where we need to draw the line. George Bush doesn’t scare the mullahs. What scares them more is the Internet, MTV, Levi’s and Ronald McDonald. The mullahs know it is the modern world that is the true enemy of their radical fundamentalist cult. It isn’t George Bush.
Bush’s policies have radicalized Muslims all across the world.
Oh my FF. Have you been reading any of the ME press regarding BO? Good luck with that.
And just how is BO going to heal anything?
Moses he ain’t.
How long have Muslims been killing Jews? Way before Bush came on the scene. By your reasoning, it must ALL be the fault of the Jewish leaders of the past and their decisions which force Muslims to kill others today.
Do you excuse the killer at Virginia Tech from a few years ago too as being acceptable because he had problems with school officials? How about Columbine since the killers were picked on? Must be the school Principles fault. Or the recent workplace shooting in Florida where one person was killed and several injured. That darn boss, he is at fault for firing the guy causing him to go on a rampage.
Where in your brain does individual responsibility for a persons actions start?
so,the beirut marine base attack, the achille lauro, the uss cole, and both world trade center assaults were because of bush.
this guy must be getting paid by some vested interest to spout these inane comments. i refuse to believe anyone could be that dumb or demented.
I think FF comes to NQ merely to provoke, Jillie. If he/she truly believes the twisted words then he/she is nothing more than a apologist for the worst in human behavior–there’s always someone else to blame, no personal accountability.
But FF reminds me of the driver who gives you the finger on the highway, the drive-by aggressors who get a kick out of being vulgar and incredibly stupid.
They get off on the reaction of others. Anything to provoke, anything to stir the hornet’s nest.
I could not disagree with you more. You conflate Bush and anger of Muslims. That’s reductive at best and aims to make a complicated issue simple. Get rid of one man and problem solved.
As if. Islamic radicalism has many causes and, believe it or not, many of those are internal. Bush’s policies were no doubt unpopular with many people both domestically and internationally.
But suggesting it is all “Bush’s fault” far overstates the role played by a single western leader to a paternalistic level.
It isn’t all about us / US , you know.
And suggesting Bush’s presence at Fort Hood is somehow inappropriate? Ridiculous.
AFter all, someone had to CHOOSE to commit mass murder. He could have CHOSEN better.
Logical arguments won’t sway an ideologue with a burr up their ass.
Yeah. Probably tilting at windmills and wasting my time!
Not entirely: I think it is still important to refute an ideologue’s misconceptions none the less.
But BO told everyone, all of these problems stem from GWB. Just like he told everyone, he is a 14th Amendment citizen; why, he even posted the 14th Amendment on his Fight the Smears web site! Where do you think people are getting all of these false impressions about him and his Presidency, from out of thin air?
You need to learn some history. Begin by reading “The Looming Tower.” These radicals have been around, inciting others, for decades!!! It wasn’t Bush — they were well on their way decades before.
The Looming Tower explains the history — how an Egyptian professor who lived in the U.S. for some time was a driving force in the ideology which was picked up by Egyptian extremists back in the 1980s.
Furthermore, there is a riveting account of the attack on Mecca by Saudi extremists long, long before Bush came along. Yes, the Muslim radicals actually “kidnapped” Mecca, and what happened is an astounding story.
This has all been fomenting for a very long time.
Do some reading.
P.S. The Looming Tower is an utterly engrossing book that you can’t put down once you begin. It’s written incredibly well and with the utmost research that is NEVER dry. There are unforgettable stories in it, too, about U.S. military and intelligence specialists.
It was an informative and well written book. I agree.
Bush is responsible for radical muslims? You need to stop watching msnbc.
You must, in addition to having “dunce” tattooed to your horribly foreshortened forehead, a t-shirt that says, “I’m stupid”.
Hey Ferd!
Galt–I keep missing you!! Drat the luck. I just went to the Knoxpatch mall and braved the locusts in search of something worth purchasing.
Whatever people otherwise think of Bush, be believes in freedom I do believe. Our current President is probably more of your liking… fighter of freedom. Like I said above freedom vs tyranny and good vs evil are struggles we see in daily life everyday. Which are we going to stand for? Because if we don’t choose then we stand for nothing.
“A gentle caregiver?”
Who murdered 13 people and wounded dozens more. The accountablity rests with the killer, not with anyone else. He made the choice to walk into that reception area and open fire on unarmed men and women.
Hasan was a coward and a traitor. I don’t like either of these wars. But this man’s act was despicable. And your description, FF, is equally despicable and perverted.
“gentle caregiver?”
You are living proof that there are those who believe precisely what they want to believe without any regards to facts.
U.S. Rep. Michael McCaul, a Republican from Austin, after a briefing with military officials said, “He took a lot of extra classes in weapons training, which seems a little odd for a psychiatrist.”
This is a man who has a history or refusing to be photographed with coworkers because they are women, of looking for a wife with demands of such extreme orthodoxy that one could not be found, of attempting to proselytize his patients, of giving speeches on the Quran instead of scientifica; of shouting Allahu Akbar when he shot and killed unarmed fellow soldiers.
He has shown repeatedly that he is intolerant and inflexible towards his fellow American citizens if they are outside his religion. That you feel more sympathy towards this murderous individual than those that he shot and shot at, their families and their coworkers says something about you. But doubtless you will not understand that either.
NomNOm:
Well said.
I think we are fast coming to a point where we are going to have to choose sides.
Obama has made this country unsafe against terrorists and we’ve just had our first terrorist attack on HIS watch. I just wonder how they are going to spin that!
Wasn’t that shooter at a military recruting office on Obama’s watch? Or was that during the election?
Wow! How did they figure that out? Sort of like those guys who took flying lessons but didn’t need to know how to land…
I agree…. all that rigidity and intolerance for others, low frustration tolerance, - then they become aggressive (whether verbally or physically). I fear it’s more around us than we realize.
to all idiots excusing this man for murder. you are full of it and your comments say a lot about you none of which is positive.
I think its more they are trying to score political brownie points on the backs of the victims of this tragedy.
Bush didn’t do a photo op. But I bet Obambi will, can’t go anywhere without a camera and a teleprompter. God what a fake.
“By many news accounts?” Yea, we know how reliable the news can be…there are many psychiatrists treated veterans who do not pick up pistols and massacre 40 people. This man was clearly unbalanced.
HoB, if this were anyone other than Freedumb Fighter, I’d say that this was just intentional taunting, and that the writer doesn’t really believe this utter bullshit. But FF truly is one of the most pathetically ignorant, intellectually vacant, head up his ass, POS bots that posts here, and he actually believes the absurdities that he yanks out of his ass. He’s also the most cowardly type of bot, who hides like a little chicken in the anonymity of the net, and posts things that he would never dare say to anyone in person for fear that even an enraged old lady would be able to rip his empty head off his skinny shoulders, and spit down his filthy throat.
I would love it if we could ignore FF and just sail on to the next comment. There’s absolutely no reason to defend against his silly posts.
I agree, Annie. It’s just feeding the troll, who seems to get a kick out of stirring the waters and taking the attention off the article content: a tribute to the heroic actions of several women and men, who risked their lives to save others from a twisted, depraved murderer.
lol–tell us how you really feel!
freedom nonfighter your comments are assinine. be gone!
correction: not a photo opp, unlike anything you’ll see when fearless leader finally gets down there
THERE WAS NO PHOTO-OP!!! And the soldiers here deeply appreciated seeing GWB & Laura.
Fantastic article Bronwyn!
We should all strive to measure up to these heroic people.
Their training and dedication are invaluable, and we owe them so much!
I also thank President and Mrs. Bush for being self-less enough to visit and console the troops at Fort Hood!
Interesting how a former president has visited Fort Hood yet the current president is more concerned with arm-twisting House Democrats on Capitol Hill. And how come the president is not in New York today at that important ship launching?
I also wish to point out extreme caution is in order since the Doppelganger (The White House and their media cronies) are framing this health care “reform” as “historic.”
This “historic”
Actually, no, but it wouldn’t surprise me to see them there along with a free “God damn America!” campaign-style button.
disasterpresident gives me large reason to worry this “historic” “reform” will be an unmitigated disaster. Let us also never forget of the “historic speech” made by that racist to educate us about racism. Yeah that was historic alright. Did I see some of the DVDs of the speech on the remainder table at the junk store for 50 cents a piece?Meanwhile, the unemployment rate is above 10 points with the actual real-world rate probably closer to 15 points or higher.
Democrats priorities are all out of whack. Middle America wants JOBS. And how does an over one-trillion price tag make health care more “affordable”?
I must say I am very confused yet happy centrist since I voted against all the perpetrators of malfeasance I could during the last two presidential elections.
Hell, the Titanics first voyage was “historic” too and look how that ended. Obama’s election was historic also and so far, TOTUS is looking to be the best thing about that Administration.
Historic is not always a good thing.
Thank God my comment didn’t appear next to that deranged Freedom Fighter!
I’m allergic to sadistic nit-wits!
You’re welcome!
(Kinder Gentler Galt)
I find it absolutely delicious that it took a woman to take down this piece of filth of the Muslim faith, the ‘faith’ (and I use that word loosely)which allows stoning of women, unspeakable horrors even though the women may have been raped. I remember particularly the young lady who just died, after having been driven over by her father for ‘dishonoring the family’. Even her brother feels that way. The father deserves to lose his sons, too, but in that culture, that will never happen.
If Muslims can’t accept our culture and want to attack it, they need to be put out of their misery and sent back to whatever dust bowl they came from.
We neither need nor want them here, dirtying our society with their middle ages mentality. And we sure don’t need a President who seems bent on making every possible excuse for them (”Let’s not jump to conclusions”).
I respectully submit that broad-brush proclimations about any faith (or lack therof) are counterprodcutive to improving the overall human condition.
Galt:
Being politically correct has only worsened the safety of this country and if painting all muslims with a broad brush is what it would take to open people’s eyes to what a hateful ‘religion’ they practice, I’m all for doing it.
Improve relations? The Islamists have been violent for generations and to believe that there is any way short of destroying ourselves to get along with them is shortsighted, to say the least.
Harsh comments? You bet. This country didn’t seek out Islamist terrorists…they sought us out. It’s on their shoulders to prove to us that they will become ‘civilized’ and not until we are convinced of their sincerity should we ever let down our guard. I am not holding my breath.
I don’t see treating each person as an individual as being “politically correct.” There are good Muslims, Christians, Jews, Buddhists, Zoroastrians, Bahias, agnostics, atheists, spiritual people, etc. and their bad counterparts. I think all paths lead back to Source/Creator/God/Allah/Jehovah/Great Spirit or however one wishes to think of it. If you want to improve the human condition its important to seek common ground with the “good” of the aforementioned list. Perhaps we can shame the “bad” into extinction as a species.
Hello Galt–long time no see.
At the risk of pissing off the sniper troll Bria, I agree with you. There are potentially as many paths to enlightenment as there are people.
None of those paths, however, go through or anywhere near That One.
Ferd, I believe we are all “lights” and “lesser lights.” I personally don’t buy into the dualistic reality most people believe in, a.k.a. “good” versus “evil.” I believe in one Source (the “singularity”) and one path, albeit we are all on differing tributaries, speeds and relative locations of said path.
Mind you this is no excuse for abhorrent human behavior. “That One” as you call him is a throwback to the time-tested divider/conquerors or yore = a “lessor light.” I pity him and those who empower him.
How do you account for anomolies?
anomolies? Is that supposed to be a link? Its not showing on my computer if it is.
My bad, I was looking for a tube of one. but inleiu of that;
There is one at 1600 and just now one appeared on the House floor. There were Dodo birds a plenty.
Yikes! It won’t embed.
http://primeval.wikia.com/wiki/Anomaly
Thanks for the info.
In the name of peace and ‘getting along’, too much is excused on the part of violent muslims, anti-woman muslims, anti-American muslims. (You can substitute any ethnic group here you like). We spend far too much time worrying about their ‘feelings’ and apologizing for our negative feelings toward them. Those negative feelings exist with good reason.
As to seeking common ground with the ‘good’ of a particular religious/ethnic group, when they set about cleaning out their own house, and stop making halfhearted statements about ‘the actions of that individual are not representative of the rest of us’ instead of apologizing to America for what their member did, perhaps I’ll start considering a more openminded view of them. Further, I believe the need to reach out falls on their shoulders, not ours.
Perhaps you have a stronger belief system than I do. Confronted with the daily practicalities of life, I am coming around to more of an eye for an eye approach.
As to Muslim treatment of women, we have laws here which protect (are supposed to, anyway) women against violence and harrassment. These clowns need to be made to understand that they will be required to treat us with respect and dignity. If they refuse, they need to have their sorry a**es dragged into court and have the book thrown at them. If they can’t do this, they need to be deported asap. Women in this country have struggled for too long and worked too hard to sit idly by and have some foreign dirtbags treat us any way they choose. Un-uh….no way.
Last night on Nightline they did a simulated re-enactment of the shootings…she continued to fire even after she was on the ground…probably when she hit him in the torso.
I hope to God he’s not paralyzed because that might rally all the bleeding hearts against giving him the death penalty…we don’t need to be stuck with millions for his incarceration and health care.
If he was thinking like a terrorist Jihadist, how’s he going to feel when he wakes paralyzed in an army hospital bed facing the consequences of he’s done, instead of in some martyr’s paradise?
If he’d been killed on the spot after what he did, maybe he would have been getting off too easy.
Yeah, instead of 11 virgins, he’s going to be “served” by 11 sexually mature, strong, competent, and pissed-off military nurses! I hope his doctor is a woman, too!
I also read in the Houston Chronicle today that a soldier dragged/carried 4 of the wounded to his truck and personally drove them to the emergency room. So he’s also a hero.
Jessica Lynch. Remember that name. Everyone loves a hero. I do too. But, I sure don’t believe the NYTimes’ accounts of anything.
I am such a “negative nellie” when it comes to ascribing HERO status to people in the mainstream media. They use people. Some people don’t allow themselves to be used or exploited. I truly respect those people.
Remember Jessica Lynch, the hero of Iraq?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jessica_Lynch
She refused to allow the mainstream media to exploit her for their own propaganda purposes, thereby making herself a REAL hero in my eyes.
So, thanks, BH, for giving us the names of others who acted heroically at Ft. Hood. Because I prefer to hear about ALL the people who thought of others first, to being propagandized about one person [woman or man] who “saved the day.”
I didn’t quote the NYT.
I think she was the primary person responsible for stopping Hasan so therefore most of the attention is on her. It only took 10 minutes for Hasan to do the damage he did. If not for these two cops, a few minutes more before he was taken down could’ve resulted in who knows how more people dead. I don’t think it’s propaganda for the media to talk about and recognize her actions as long as what they say is the TRUTH.
I think America loves and celebrates heroes because it reconfirms our faith in the goodness of people. Part of me think it’s necessary as part of the recovery process to find some spark of human exceptionalism in such a stressful situation. Think of Capt. Sullenberger - do you think he allowed himself to be used too in the publicity after he landed that plane safely?
Also, it’s not like she’s giving press conferences bragging about what she did &/or asking for attention. She’s in the hospital with two bullet wounds in her legs and one in her hand. It seems at this time, her attention is on recovery and helping the investigators, so cut her some slack that she’s not out there actively fighting the mainstream media against “being used or exploited”.
This woman walked faced down a heavily armed killer, at the risk of her own life, and shot repeatedly until she took him down–even after being wounded. That is heroic, regardless of what melodrama the MSM conjures up.
I hope that the news is spread far and wide in the Middle Eastern countries that it was a woman, a tiny woman, who took down this POS.
I pity the women of those countries today, though, because in those very civilized countries there will probably be a rise in stonings and killings of women.
And we want to have relationships with those countries???!!!
Thank You Bronwyn’s Harbor, for the details and information; a very touching article.
Not so good publicity for Jihad if one infidel woman can end the carnage.
I would love for her to get well enough, go visit him and gently whisper in his ear..”prick, how’s that for being a woman?” I hope he hears everyday how a woman brought him down.
I hope he wakes up enough to be shown the picture of the woman who took him down. And maybe the nurses who work in his room could wear “slutty nurse” outfits and boss him around!
Oh, that’s good too!
ter·ror·ism
n. The unlawful use or threatened use of force or violence by a person or an organized group against people or property with the intention of intimidating or coercing societies or governments, often for ideological or political reasons.
Typically, they stage unexpected attacks on civilian targets, including embassies and airliners, with the aim of sowing fear and confusion.
Geraldo was just on, and he seemed to be linking terrorism to Muslims, and saying that his guest wouldn’t be calling it terrorism if the shooter had been hispanic.
It seems to me that terrorism can’t just be decided on the front end - you also have to look at the results end. If the behavior has terrified people, confused them (ie, caused chaos and injury), it seems like terrorism, regardless of the ethnicity of the shooter.
And in a way, the Fort Hood guy met the part in the definition about “civilians”, because even though they were military, they were attending a graduation and weren’t armed or expecting an attack.
So the guy who shot up his ex-employment site - that won’t be called terrorism - although the results were the same as terrorism. Must be because of a difference on the front end - maybe because it was all about himself, not about some ideology….?
House of Reps just passed the health care bill.
Most of my fiction reading is about gutsy, smart women who can handle themselves very well…I recommend James Patterson’s books.
One heroine was always ruining her designer handbags by shooting through them! LOL!
Now I know that Kimberly Munley and others like her are the real deal! Hurrah!