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		<title>By: Elizabeth</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2009/11/22/whats-fueling-americas-rage/#comment-1279761</link>
		<dc:creator>Elizabeth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 19:39:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A must read for anyone interested in a proper perspective on the wealth &amp; income disparity of this new &quot;Gilded age.&quot;  


http://www.salon.com/opinion/feature/2008/04/28/gilded_age/index.html


Fast-forward to our second Gilded Age and the stage seems bare indeed. No great fears, no great expectations, no looming social apocalypses, no utopias or dystopias -- just a kind of flat-line sense of the end of history. Where are all the roiling insurgencies, the breakaway political parties, the waves of strikes and boycotts, the infectious communal upheavals, the chronic sense of enough is enough? Where are the earnest efforts to invoke a new order that, no matter how sketchy and full of unanswered questions, now seem as minutely detailed as the blueprints for a Boeing 747 compared with &quot;yes we can&quot;?
 
Perhaps the answer is simple and basic: The first Gilded Age rested on industrialization; the second, on deindustrialization. In our time, a new system of disaccumulation looted American industry, liquidating its assets to reward speculation in &quot;fictitious capital.&quot; After all, the rate of investment in new plants, technology, and research and development all declined during the 1980s. For a quarter-century, the fastest-growing part of the economy has been the finance, insurance and real estate (FIRE) sector.

Deindustrialization has set off an avalanche whose impact is still being felt in the economy, in the country&#039;s political culture and in everyday life. It laid the industrial working class and the labor movement low, killing it twice over. This, more than anything else, may account for the great silence of the second Gilded Age when measured, at least, against the raucous noise of the first. Labor was mortally wounded by direct assault, beginning with President Reagan&#039;s decision in 1981 to fire all the striking air traffic controllers. His draconian act licensed American business to launch its own all-out attack on the right to organize, which continues to this day.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A must read for anyone interested in a proper perspective on the wealth &amp; income disparity of this new &#8220;Gilded age.&#8221;  </p>
<p><a href="http://www.salon.com/opinion/feature/2008/04/28/gilded_age/index.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.salon.com/opinion/feature/2008/04/28/gilded_age/index.html</a></p>
<p>Fast-forward to our second Gilded Age and the stage seems bare indeed. No great fears, no great expectations, no looming social apocalypses, no utopias or dystopias &#8212; just a kind of flat-line sense of the end of history. Where are all the roiling insurgencies, the breakaway political parties, the waves of strikes and boycotts, the infectious communal upheavals, the chronic sense of enough is enough? Where are the earnest efforts to invoke a new order that, no matter how sketchy and full of unanswered questions, now seem as minutely detailed as the blueprints for a Boeing 747 compared with &#8220;yes we can&#8221;?</p>
<p>Perhaps the answer is simple and basic: The first Gilded Age rested on industrialization; the second, on deindustrialization. In our time, a new system of disaccumulation looted American industry, liquidating its assets to reward speculation in &#8220;fictitious capital.&#8221; After all, the rate of investment in new plants, technology, and research and development all declined during the 1980s. For a quarter-century, the fastest-growing part of the economy has been the finance, insurance and real estate (FIRE) sector.</p>
<p>Deindustrialization has set off an avalanche whose impact is still being felt in the economy, in the country&#8217;s political culture and in everyday life. It laid the industrial working class and the labor movement low, killing it twice over. This, more than anything else, may account for the great silence of the second Gilded Age when measured, at least, against the raucous noise of the first. Labor was mortally wounded by direct assault, beginning with President Reagan&#8217;s decision in 1981 to fire all the striking air traffic controllers. His draconian act licensed American business to launch its own all-out attack on the right to organize, which continues to this day.</p>
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		<title>By: Sonic Ninja Kitty</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sonic Ninja Kitty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 15:25:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>LD, this is a great topic.

This anger at the decay of honesty and integrity is part of a grieving process.  The Kubler-Ross model identifies the stages of grief as denial, anger, bargaining, depression, and acceptance.  Because of the lack of honesty and integrity of our elected officials, we are now grieving, as a nation and as individuals, the loss of many things:  the image of what we thought our nation was and what it stood for, the hope for a resolution to our wars, our hopes for the future, our jobs.  

Many of us went through the same grieving process during the democratic primaries.  It is important to note that reaching the acceptance phase does not mean you condone what happened, just that you come to terms with the fact it did happen.  

It&#039;s all part of a healthy process, really.  When one reaches the end of it, it is then a bit easier to build a new, hopefully effective, plan of action.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LD, this is a great topic.</p>
<p>This anger at the decay of honesty and integrity is part of a grieving process.  The Kubler-Ross model identifies the stages of grief as denial, anger, bargaining, depression, and acceptance.  Because of the lack of honesty and integrity of our elected officials, we are now grieving, as a nation and as individuals, the loss of many things:  the image of what we thought our nation was and what it stood for, the hope for a resolution to our wars, our hopes for the future, our jobs.  </p>
<p>Many of us went through the same grieving process during the democratic primaries.  It is important to note that reaching the acceptance phase does not mean you condone what happened, just that you come to terms with the fact it did happen.  </p>
<p>It&#8217;s all part of a healthy process, really.  When one reaches the end of it, it is then a bit easier to build a new, hopefully effective, plan of action.</p>
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		<title>By: AnnieCarmel</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2009/11/22/whats-fueling-americas-rage/#comment-1279627</link>
		<dc:creator>AnnieCarmel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 08:59:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Didn&#039;t really mean to pose that as a question...fingers just furious about this sell out rotten American company putting a doll in a burqua.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Didn&#8217;t really mean to pose that as a question&#8230;fingers just furious about this sell out rotten American company putting a doll in a burqua.</p>
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		<title>By: Not Likely</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2009/11/22/whats-fueling-americas-rage/#comment-1279615</link>
		<dc:creator>Not Likely</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 07:31:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ignorance.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ignorance.</p>
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		<title>By: Ellen D</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ellen D</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 07:07:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Everyone seems to think all the seniors voted for Obama. If so, who voted for McCain? Not the young ones.

Can anyone point me to the polls that show seniors voting for Obama?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Everyone seems to think all the seniors voted for Obama. If so, who voted for McCain? Not the young ones.</p>
<p>Can anyone point me to the polls that show seniors voting for Obama?</p>
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		<title>By: elaine</title>
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		<dc:creator>elaine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 06:26:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The floating stench of fear is in the air but rage?  Not where I live in a world of fantastic plastic professionals. Guess they figure if they don&#039;t talk about it everything will be ok.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The floating stench of fear is in the air but rage?  Not where I live in a world of fantastic plastic professionals. Guess they figure if they don&#8217;t talk about it everything will be ok.</p>
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		<title>By: Peggy Sue</title>
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		<dc:creator>Peggy Sue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 05:46:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, for God&#039;s sake, Annie.  I thought you were joking.  Has Mattel lost its mind??

What&#039;s next?  Suicide-vest Ken?

Of all the stupid, idiotic ideas. And this is what we want to teach our young daughters in the 21st Century?  Pull on that burka, cover yourself because there&#039;s something terribly wrong in being a woman.  

How very PC. How unAmerican!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, for God&#8217;s sake, Annie.  I thought you were joking.  Has Mattel lost its mind??</p>
<p>What&#8217;s next?  Suicide-vest Ken?</p>
<p>Of all the stupid, idiotic ideas. And this is what we want to teach our young daughters in the 21st Century?  Pull on that burka, cover yourself because there&#8217;s something terribly wrong in being a woman.  </p>
<p>How very PC. How unAmerican!</p>
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		<title>By: AnnieCarmel</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2009/11/22/whats-fueling-americas-rage/#comment-1279580</link>
		<dc:creator>AnnieCarmel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 04:53:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here&#039;s something that is fueling mine?

http://www.comcast.net/video/1339100026/burka_barbie

I am going to call Matel and tell them I will never purchase anything with their logo on it again...ever.  Outrageous and disgusting.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s something that is fueling mine?</p>
<p><a href="http://www.comcast.net/video/1339100026/burka_barbie" rel="nofollow">http://www.comcast.net/video/1339100026/burka_barbie</a></p>
<p>I am going to call Matel and tell them I will never purchase anything with their logo on it again&#8230;ever.  Outrageous and disgusting.</p>
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		<title>By: jwrjr</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2009/11/22/whats-fueling-americas-rage/#comment-1279579</link>
		<dc:creator>jwrjr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 04:31:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What is fueling Populist rage?  How about a Presidensity and Congress who &quot;know what&#039;s best&quot; and thus feel no need to listen to what the constituents want?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What is fueling Populist rage?  How about a Presidensity and Congress who &#8220;know what&#8217;s best&#8221; and thus feel no need to listen to what the constituents want?</p>
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		<title>By: NomNomNom</title>
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		<dc:creator>NomNomNom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 04:18:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2009/11/wells-fargo-says-it-doesnt-have-to.html
&quot;Wells Fargo Says It Doesn&#039;t Have to Reserve Against Its Off-Balance Sheet Residential Exposure Because the FHA (Meaning the Taxpayers) Will Pay For It&quot;
what do you want to bet they are all doing this?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2009/11/wells-fargo-says-it-doesnt-have-to.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2009/11/wells-fargo-says-it-doesnt-have-to.html</a><br />
&#8220;Wells Fargo Says It Doesn&#8217;t Have to Reserve Against Its Off-Balance Sheet Residential Exposure Because the FHA (Meaning the Taxpayers) Will Pay For It&#8221;<br />
what do you want to bet they are all doing this?</p>
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		<title>By: BuzzisbackLatte</title>
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		<dc:creator>BuzzisbackLatte</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 04:09:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree.  One, is a figment of demented corruption and the other is figure of simple honesty.

It&#039;s more like the nation needs to get up to speed with Sarah Palin and leave the Darth Vader world of Obama behind.

He&#039;s the opposite of everything the DNC, the media, and Obama himself has tried to sell to the country.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree.  One, is a figment of demented corruption and the other is figure of simple honesty.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s more like the nation needs to get up to speed with Sarah Palin and leave the Darth Vader world of Obama behind.</p>
<p>He&#8217;s the opposite of everything the DNC, the media, and Obama himself has tried to sell to the country.</p>
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		<title>By: NomNomNom</title>
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		<dc:creator>NomNomNom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 04:01:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;&quot;I see no peaceful way out of this until we remove the 2 party system. The next crisis will be worse.&quot; &lt;/em&gt;
jmo the task is even more daunting: we must remove from power those &lt;strong&gt;behind&lt;/strong&gt; our 2 main parties, because it is they who have corrupted them and stand ready to corrupt whatever institution one devises to replace the 2 party system.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>&#8220;I see no peaceful way out of this until we remove the 2 party system. The next crisis will be worse.&#8221; </em><br />
jmo the task is even more daunting: we must remove from power those <strong>behind</strong> our 2 main parties, because it is they who have corrupted them and stand ready to corrupt whatever institution one devises to replace the 2 party system.</p>
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		<title>By: Docelder</title>
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		<dc:creator>Docelder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 03:52:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You really can&#039;t compare Palin to Obama. Palin is a real person. That is why she doesn&#039;t feel the need to say her kids have funny names. That is why you take her at face value or not at all. Obama is a manufactured brand. If there is a real person in there, it has been carefully hidden from us. Probably for good reason. You have to take him as the media presents him or not at all. The two people can&#039;t be compared really.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You really can&#8217;t compare Palin to Obama. Palin is a real person. That is why she doesn&#8217;t feel the need to say her kids have funny names. That is why you take her at face value or not at all. Obama is a manufactured brand. If there is a real person in there, it has been carefully hidden from us. Probably for good reason. You have to take him as the media presents him or not at all. The two people can&#8217;t be compared really.</p>
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		<title>By: John (from Liberal Rapture)</title>
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		<dc:creator>John (from Liberal Rapture)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 03:51:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I do believe there is anger. I also sense - ironically - hopelessness. What is missing is that event in which it clearly has &quot;boiled over&quot; directly at the leadership. Many think that will happen soon. I am not so sure. Most people - are angry - but see their only outlet as the voting booth. The system has trapped us here. THe GOP will benefit in the short term. They are no better. This GOP resurgence then will have a response in kind at some point....helping the Dems. It is a circle and it is vicious. Until food or energy actually run out - people with seeth and do little. 

I see no peaceful way out of this until we remove the 2 party system. The next crisis will be worse. 

The reason for Obama is obvious to me: boil us slowly, while the same people who backed Bush, take pound after pound of flesh. I see no recovery from this moment. We are past recovery. We are broke in every sense of the word. Our real wealth has been given to China and we have a broken system. I am no longer sure we have greatness in us. I hope we do. Good character traits may not save us tis time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I do believe there is anger. I also sense &#8211; ironically &#8211; hopelessness. What is missing is that event in which it clearly has &#8220;boiled over&#8221; directly at the leadership. Many think that will happen soon. I am not so sure. Most people &#8211; are angry &#8211; but see their only outlet as the voting booth. The system has trapped us here. THe GOP will benefit in the short term. They are no better. This GOP resurgence then will have a response in kind at some point&#8230;.helping the Dems. It is a circle and it is vicious. Until food or energy actually run out &#8211; people with seeth and do little. </p>
<p>I see no peaceful way out of this until we remove the 2 party system. The next crisis will be worse. </p>
<p>The reason for Obama is obvious to me: boil us slowly, while the same people who backed Bush, take pound after pound of flesh. I see no recovery from this moment. We are past recovery. We are broke in every sense of the word. Our real wealth has been given to China and we have a broken system. I am no longer sure we have greatness in us. I hope we do. Good character traits may not save us tis time.</p>
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		<title>By: FLDemFem</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 03:24:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think the rage is coming from a deeper place and for a much simpler reason than the ones stated here. I think the American electorate is waking up and figuring out that they have been had, conned, hoodwinked and bamboozled by a nobody from nowhere who had done nothing for anyone but himself. And they are mad about it. Of course, it&#039;s their own fault, which makes it worse, and them madder. If they had bothered to look at his resume instead of listening to his BS, then they would have seen what he is, and isn&#039;t. He isn&#039;t fit to be President, he just doesn&#039;t have the brains or the mental discipline to do the work that goes with the job. He never has. And it was obvious during the campaign, all you had to do is look at his past performances, they are laughable. They didn&#039;t, and now they are mad because he conned them into giving him the job that he can&#039;t do. 

If he were a race horse, he would be a cheap claimer based on his resume, not a Grade 1 stakes horse. He fooled a lot of people into thinking he was a stakes horse. (Not me, I read PastPerformances!!) Now they are wondering why their betting tickets aren&#039;t worth the paper they are printed on. They should have read the Form on him, like I and so many here did. Then they would have voted for Hillary in the primary and they wouldn&#039;t be mad at themselves for betting on a non-runner.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the rage is coming from a deeper place and for a much simpler reason than the ones stated here. I think the American electorate is waking up and figuring out that they have been had, conned, hoodwinked and bamboozled by a nobody from nowhere who had done nothing for anyone but himself. And they are mad about it. Of course, it&#8217;s their own fault, which makes it worse, and them madder. If they had bothered to look at his resume instead of listening to his BS, then they would have seen what he is, and isn&#8217;t. He isn&#8217;t fit to be President, he just doesn&#8217;t have the brains or the mental discipline to do the work that goes with the job. He never has. And it was obvious during the campaign, all you had to do is look at his past performances, they are laughable. They didn&#8217;t, and now they are mad because he conned them into giving him the job that he can&#8217;t do. </p>
<p>If he were a race horse, he would be a cheap claimer based on his resume, not a Grade 1 stakes horse. He fooled a lot of people into thinking he was a stakes horse. (Not me, I read PastPerformances!!) Now they are wondering why their betting tickets aren&#8217;t worth the paper they are printed on. They should have read the Form on him, like I and so many here did. Then they would have voted for Hillary in the primary and they wouldn&#8217;t be mad at themselves for betting on a non-runner.</p>
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