Comments on: “One of the great strategic blunders in Presidential political history” http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2011/one-of-the-great-strategic-blunders/ Thu, 23 Feb 2012 10:38:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.4 By: carissa http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2011/one-of-the-great-strategic-blunders/#comment-177824 carissa Thu, 03 Apr 2008 14:02:26 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/04/01/one-of-the-great-strategic-blunders/#comment-177824 Has MyDD pulled this story? The link appears to be broken! If so, this is the third anti-Obama post that I know of that has been pulled in the last few days. What's going on? Has MyDD pulled this story? The link appears to be broken! If so, this is the third anti-Obama post that I know of that has been pulled in the last few days. What’s going on?

]]> By: Nan http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2011/one-of-the-great-strategic-blunders/#comment-176663 Nan Wed, 02 Apr 2008 16:36:22 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/04/01/one-of-the-great-strategic-blunders/#comment-176663 I thought it was Obama who was supposed to be the second coming??? Can't close the deal huh? It would be so much easier for him if Hillary just stepped out wouldn't it. But she's not, and we're not, and this isn't over yet. I think you Obamabots are in for a big wake-up call. Silly remark about Republicans supporting her, when he has been supporting in all the elections "register for the day as a Democrat and vote for me" campaign. Why did the Republicans tell their people to "leave him alone,", maybe because they know he is a much weaker candidate? It has been proven in quite a few states, that Hillary won the Democractic vote, and we don't even won't to go into the baloney known as a caucus. He has managed to build up a slight delegate lead by taking over caucuses (unfairly, from what I have read) and winning red states-whoopee. That will do us a lot of good in the GE. He will, if the nominee, lose big time, in the GE election. I thought it was Obama who was supposed to be the second coming??? Can’t close the deal huh? It would be so much easier for him if Hillary just stepped out wouldn’t it. But she’s not, and we’re not, and this isn’t over yet. I think you Obamabots are in for a big wake-up call. Silly remark about Republicans supporting her, when he has been supporting in all the elections “register for the day as a Democrat and vote for me” campaign. Why did the Republicans tell their people to “leave him alone,”, maybe because they know he is a much weaker candidate? It has been proven in quite a few states, that Hillary won the Democractic vote, and we don’t even won’t to go into the baloney known as a caucus. He has managed to build up a slight delegate lead by taking over caucuses (unfairly, from what I have read) and winning red states-whoopee. That will do us a lot of good in the GE. He will, if the nominee, lose big time, in the GE election.

]]> By: carissa http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2011/one-of-the-great-strategic-blunders/#comment-176546 carissa Wed, 02 Apr 2008 14:15:12 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/04/01/one-of-the-great-strategic-blunders/#comment-176546 If I were a super delegate, I'd tell'em all to take a flying leap. If I were a super delegate, I’d tell’em all to take a flying leap.

]]> By: kenoshaMarge http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2011/one-of-the-great-strategic-blunders/#comment-176538 kenoshaMarge Wed, 02 Apr 2008 14:04:42 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/04/01/one-of-the-great-strategic-blunders/#comment-176538 Having No Quarter get behind Obama if he's the nominee would be disgusting all right. Because those of us that come here don't want him to be the nominee and don't think that with the disenfranchising of voters in two states he has any right to ANY Democrat vote. And how simple minded you are in that you can only thing of 2 scenarios. Anti-Obama = Pro-Republican in you mind? You really do need to take a course in rational thinking. It's like saying I don't like orange to I'll always take green instead. If you don't like it here, why come here? And if you are so sure your candidate is gonna win, why do you care what us "losers" are doing or saying? Maybe, like your candidate you aren't all that much in favor of Democracy. Having No Quarter get behind Obama if he’s the nominee would be disgusting all right. Because those of us that come here don’t want him to be the nominee and don’t think that with the disenfranchising of voters in two states he has any right to ANY Democrat vote.

And how simple minded you are in that you can only thing of 2 scenarios. Anti-Obama = Pro-Republican in you mind? You really do need to take a course in rational thinking. It’s like saying I don’t like orange to I’ll always take green instead.

If you don’t like it here, why come here? And if you are so sure your candidate is gonna win, why do you care what us “losers” are doing or saying? Maybe, like your candidate you aren’t all that much in favor of Democracy.

]]> By: bob h http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2011/one-of-the-great-strategic-blunders/#comment-176452 bob h Wed, 02 Apr 2008 11:45:07 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/04/01/one-of-the-great-strategic-blunders/#comment-176452 I think we should be prepared for a Democratic civil war. The Obama people already have their excuse; by staying in the race, Hillary fatally weakened him for the Fall campaign. I think we should be prepared for a Democratic civil war. The Obama people already have their excuse; by staying in the race, Hillary fatally weakened him for the Fall campaign.

]]> By: Independent http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2011/one-of-the-great-strategic-blunders/#comment-176175 Independent Wed, 02 Apr 2008 03:03:16 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/04/01/one-of-the-great-strategic-blunders/#comment-176175 If Hillary is the second coming how come she is not winning. How come she has no money. How come Obama is floating in money. If Hillary can't beat Obama she just ain't all that. The reason she is even close in numbers is because of the republicans registering Dem. and voting for her. They want her to be the nominee BAD. That is just what America needs is more of that crap. I can't wait to see this site after Obama is the nominee. You will either join the right wing or this site will shut down. Having NoQuarter get behind Obama after all this crap would be disgusting. If Hillary is the second coming how come she is not winning. How come she has no money. How come Obama is floating in money. If Hillary can’t beat Obama she just ain’t all that. The reason she is even close in numbers is because of the republicans registering Dem. and voting for her. They want her to be the nominee BAD. That is just what America needs is more of that crap.

I can’t wait to see this site after Obama is the nominee. You will either join the right wing or this site will shut down. Having NoQuarter get behind Obama after all this crap would be disgusting.

]]> By: Regency http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2011/one-of-the-great-strategic-blunders/#comment-176168 Regency Wed, 02 Apr 2008 02:56:41 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/04/01/one-of-the-great-strategic-blunders/#comment-176168 The same people who are now. By the way, she followed that statement by saying that DNC can not NOT count MI & FL. Let's get it straight. The same people who are now. By the way, she followed that statement by saying that DNC can not NOT count MI & FL. Let’s get it straight.

]]> By: Sam http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2011/one-of-the-great-strategic-blunders/#comment-176135 Sam Wed, 02 Apr 2008 02:18:49 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/04/01/one-of-the-great-strategic-blunders/#comment-176135 Bond of the NAACP tried to intervene, he wrote Dean a passionate letter early on warning Dean that he was infringing on the civil rights of many minorities and Dean basically shot him down with the rules are the rules...it is such a stupid argument, how do you even contend with it? You can make rules for anything, that doesn't make it right...but if they refuse to see what they are doing is wrong, how can you help them? Bond of the NAACP tried to intervene, he wrote Dean a passionate letter early on warning Dean that he was infringing on the civil rights of many minorities and Dean basically shot him down with the rules are the rules…it is such a stupid argument, how do you even contend with it? You can make rules for anything, that doesn’t make it right…but if they refuse to see what they are doing is wrong, how can you help them?

]]> By: yttik http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2011/one-of-the-great-strategic-blunders/#comment-176088 yttik Wed, 02 Apr 2008 01:14:50 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/04/01/one-of-the-great-strategic-blunders/#comment-176088 Hey Susan, I read a post that was promoting Gregoire as Obama's VP and I nearly spit coffee all over my screen. Can you imagine?? After all the trouble she had getting elected and a nearly divided Dem party, (several of whom refused to even cast a vote for governor)it would be the ultimate irony. Hey Susan, I read a post that was promoting Gregoire as Obama’s VP and I nearly spit coffee all over my screen.

Can you imagine?? After all the trouble she had getting elected and a nearly divided Dem party, (several of whom refused to even cast a vote for governor)it would be the ultimate irony.

]]> By: Cee Hussein http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2011/one-of-the-great-strategic-blunders/#comment-175955 Cee Hussein Tue, 01 Apr 2008 23:24:05 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/04/01/one-of-the-great-strategic-blunders/#comment-175955 Deelee, Even though Hillary blew off the votes in Michigan http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=19188859 "It's clear: This election they're having is not going to count for anything. I personally did not think it made any difference whether or not my name was on the ballot," she said. Obama should let her have them...and the delegates from Florida. She's still going to lose, then who can she blame? Who will be the new enemy? Deelee,

Even though Hillary blew off the votes in Michigan

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=19188859

“It’s clear: This election they’re having is not going to count for anything. I personally did not think it made any difference whether or not my name was on the ballot,” she said.

Obama should let her have them…and the delegates from Florida.
She’s still going to lose, then who can she blame? Who will be the new enemy?

]]> By: Cee Hussein http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2011/one-of-the-great-strategic-blunders/#comment-175943 Cee Hussein Tue, 01 Apr 2008 23:15:42 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/04/01/one-of-the-great-strategic-blunders/#comment-175943 Plans are being made to deal with this loser. Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.) on Tuesday threw his weight behind a plan to have superdelegates in the Democratic presidential primary make their votes public by July 1. Plans are being made to deal with this loser.

Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.) on Tuesday threw his weight behind a plan to have superdelegates in the Democratic presidential primary make their votes public by July 1.

]]> By: SusanUnPC http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2011/one-of-the-great-strategic-blunders/#comment-175860 SusanUnPC Tue, 01 Apr 2008 21:25:16 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/04/01/one-of-the-great-strategic-blunders/#comment-175860 You are correct. It would have been very depressing and horrifying to witness. It was bad enough when I went to the 2004 caucus and was told by Kerry-bots that they were voting for him because he was "electable." When pressed, they had no other reason for supporting him. Kevin is correct. One person, one vote. And it certainly was reflected in the stark differences between the results of the state caucuses (62+% for Obama) and the state primary ballot vote (barely 50% for Obama), but which the state Democrats refused to count. At least the state Republican party allocated a percentage of delegates to the results of the state ballot primary. The Democrats awarded delegates solely on the result of the caucuses. NW Rain, like you, I am fed up. I'm through. And let's not get into Gov. Christine Gregoire. Does she really think that Dino Rossi won't use her endorsement of Obama against her in the general election this fall? He'll exploit it at every opportunity. She has the advantage of being the incumbent, but she is vulnerable. Very vulnerable. You are correct. It would have been very depressing and horrifying to witness.

It was bad enough when I went to the 2004 caucus and was told by Kerry-bots that they were voting for him because he was “electable.” When pressed, they had no other reason for supporting him.

Kevin is correct. One person, one vote.

And it certainly was reflected in the stark differences between the results of the state caucuses (62+% for Obama) and the state primary ballot vote (barely 50% for Obama), but which the state Democrats refused to count. At least the state Republican party allocated a percentage of delegates to the results of the state ballot primary. The Democrats awarded delegates solely on the result of the caucuses.

NW Rain, like you, I am fed up. I’m through.

And let’s not get into Gov. Christine Gregoire. Does she really think that Dino Rossi won’t use her endorsement of Obama against her in the general election this fall? He’ll exploit it at every opportunity. She has the advantage of being the incumbent, but she is vulnerable. Very vulnerable.

]]> By: deelee http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2011/one-of-the-great-strategic-blunders/#comment-175859 deelee Tue, 01 Apr 2008 21:24:38 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/04/01/one-of-the-great-strategic-blunders/#comment-175859 I think I might have an answer for the MI and FL delegates being seated. If the DNC want to allot 50%/50% to both candidates let them. But of the delegates that are apportioned to Obama they won't be commited delegates therefore during the convention they will be free to choose their own nominee, i.e. Hillary. And remember, they are already pissed at Obama so it just might be a complete sweep for Hillary. God make it so. I think I might have an answer for the MI and FL delegates being seated. If the DNC want to allot 50%/50% to both candidates let them. But of the delegates that are apportioned to Obama they won’t be commited delegates therefore during the convention they will be free to choose their own nominee, i.e. Hillary. And remember, they are already pissed at Obama so it just might be a complete sweep for Hillary. God make it so.

]]> By: Kevin http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2011/one-of-the-great-strategic-blunders/#comment-175842 Kevin Tue, 01 Apr 2008 20:51:23 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/04/01/one-of-the-great-strategic-blunders/#comment-175842 Have to agree - I've always preferred the straight vote over the caucus system. Hopefully this will put another nail in it's coffin once and for all. Hey, I can dream cant I? 1 person, 1 vote. Have to agree – I’ve always preferred the straight vote over the caucus system. Hopefully this will put another nail in it’s coffin once and for all.

Hey, I can dream cant I?

1 person, 1 vote.

]]> By: Northwest rain http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2011/one-of-the-great-strategic-blunders/#comment-175836 Northwest rain Tue, 01 Apr 2008 20:47:25 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/04/01/one-of-the-great-strategic-blunders/#comment-175836 Susan -- in a way I wish I had the hospital excuse -- but I attended and WISH I were in the hospital. It was pure hell -- caucus was filled with Obamabots. All in one place all the idiots -- playing all the Obamabot games in one place. So any Obamabot who says he caucused for Obama is now my enemy. That caucus experience put me in the group of -- WILL NEVER VOTE FOR OBAMA FOR ANYTHING and especially for Prez. Anyone who can gather so many nasty, lying, bullies is BAD NEWS. So I will never get over that caucus experience -- at least you don't have the horrible caucus memories. Susan — in a way I wish I had the hospital excuse — but I attended and WISH I were in the hospital.

It was pure hell — caucus was filled with Obamabots. All in one place all the idiots — playing all the Obamabot games in one place.

So any Obamabot who says he caucused for Obama is now my enemy.

That caucus experience put me in the group of — WILL NEVER VOTE FOR OBAMA FOR ANYTHING and especially for Prez.

Anyone who can gather so many nasty, lying, bullies is BAD NEWS. So

I will never get over that caucus experience — at least you don’t have the horrible caucus memories.

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