A Worthy Cause–Banning Nuclear Weapons

The only way we get rid of nuclear weapons if someone invents something that is even more destructive.

Amen. Sorry susan I want to give peace a chance as well, but humans hav more incommon with the face ripping chimp than we want to believe, and you need away to take them down.

BREAKING NEWS: Obama — U.S. has ‘responsibility to act’ to rid world of nuclear weapons
Obama to hold nuclear weapons summit

PRAGUE – President Barack Obama said on Sunday that he will convene a global summit by year’s end to discuss the protection, reduction and eventual elimination of nuclear weapons.

The United States had “moral responsibility to act” in ridding world of nuclear weapons, the president said during a speech in the Czech capital, Prague.

His speech was billed as the centerpiece speech of his eight-day European trip. But it was overshadowed by nuclear-armed North Korea’s alarming launch of a long-range rocket the West says could carry missiles. That launch happened just hours earlier.

Obama’s arms control coordinator Gary Samore acknowledges it is not possible now to eliminate global nuclear arsenals. But he says Obama intends to take practical steps to demonstrate seriousness about the goal and to give the U.S. extra leverage in opposing nuclear programs in North Korea and Iran.

Here we go the guy is about to disarm US while the bad guys on the planet are just now starting up their nuclear programs. I hope he realizes that this is not a basketball he is talking about. I guess this guy is truly trying to destroy the USA.

That’s quite a list of names…where’s OBAMAS? GORE? CLINTON?

Kim Jong is a freakin’ nut just like most of those other satanic, evil leaders that Obama wants to bow to. People like that do not understand or care about what is right or good. They are obsessed with power, control, their own diminished ego and self esteem. In other words, they’re a few sandwiches short of a picnic. You can’t reason with people like that-but by all means, the sane, logical people should try. When it doesn’t work, use force for the good of the rest of us who have sense.

The US and Britain for decades lectured campaigners for nuclear disarmament about the wonderful effectiveness of nuclear weapons as a deterrent. Surely what’s source for the goose is sauce for the gander. In any case the only country that has ever used nuclear weapons – to slaughter and maim hundreds of thousands is — the United Sates. In the last five years it has attacked two sovereign states and threatened several others with attack. It explicitly reserves the right to a first strike use of nuclear weapons.

Is it any surprise that when the Bush administration broke off talks with North Korea, scuppered the Clinton administration’s deal to sell nuclear power plants to it in exchange for it signing the nuclear non-proliferation treaty and put on the list of rogue states Kim Jong-Il restarted a nuclear weapons program?

Here we go the guy is about to disarm US while the bad guys on the planet are just now starting up their nuclear programs. I hope he realizes that this is not a basketball he is talking about. I guess this guy is truly trying to destroy the USA.

Except that nowhere in that article does it say the administration plans on unilaterally disassembling its stockpile. Did you even read the article, or does that even matter to you?

North Korea’s missle launch has me freakin’ out. I can’t believe we allowed a dangerous little wack job like Kim Jong to flex his muscles in such an ominous way. I don’t believe for a minute Barky’s administration mantra “there is nothing we can do”. Bullshit. We are the United States of America. We can accomplish anything. I find it hard to believe we don’t have the technology to covertly jam the launch or blow it up over the Sea of Japan so it looks like nothing more than a technological system failure.

In my opinion, nuclear weapons are here to stay.
While the U.S. speaks of limiting them, I cannot foresee a time when we relinquish ours. Never gonna happen!
Barring an accident, they pose the biggest threat by falling into the hands of terrorists.
Governments will not use them, and unleash a chain reaction that could destroy most of the world.
I most admire Senator Lugar for his efforts in this area!

I guess this guy is truly trying to destroy the USA.

Doesn’t this make him a Benedict Arnold?

“I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will faithfully execute the Office of President of the United States and will, to the best of my Ability, preserve, protect, and defend the Constitution of the United States.”

“The President, Vice President and all civil Officers of the United States, shall be removed from Office on Impeachment for, and Conviction of, Treason, Bribery, or other high Crimes and Misdemeanors.”

After the obsequious allegiance bestowing bow to a foreign monarch, coupled with the public disdain for the United States expressed in his speeches; it probably is past time to investigate this guy’s loyalty to the Constitution of the United States.

The same Congress so quick to impeach Clinton over an old real estate deal is certainly timid about demanding accountability for disloyal remarks to foreign nations, aren’t they? Makes one wonder where their loyalty lies.

I agree with you.

With North Korea helping other countries to access nuclear weapon technology we allowed a pandora’s box to be open that will be nearly impossible to close without a major catastrophe.

After last night we saw that Obama is NOT the guy to do it. That North Korean missile should have been destroyed to send a clear message to them and to Iran.

Instead the Panderer-in-Chief sat on his arse and said “that’s not my fault” and is going to approach this nclear disarmament like you said like a basketball game and will unilaterally disaarm the U.S. and would not at all be surprised to see them try and strong arm Israel to do the same (which they won’t).

Soertoro/Obama is too busy telling Europe why we’re such a bad nation; can’t expect anyone with that kind of political ideology to take action against our enemies when he considers everything our fault.

Why are you freaked out? Is it because you realize we are not omnipotent? That our power is an illusion? Our belief that we can accomplish anything is equivalent to civil order in the U.S.A.. It only exists because our belief in it makes it possible. This is what the Afghanis realized when they beat up the USSR. After the veil of invincibility was removed East Europe rebelled. This is what happens during riots and political movements. Police could not stop the LA riots they just waited for them the burn out. Look at the pirates off of Africa’s eastern coast, they know that there is only some much nation states can do. What would blowing up the North Korean missile accomplish?

Who is going to do it?

It is not that Democrats control both houses but it is who is in charge of that leadership that allows Obama and his cadre get away with what they do.

Gingrich: I would’ve disabled missile:

Former House Speaker Newt Gingrich told “Fox News Sunday” that he would have disabled the long-range missile before North Korea launched it, saying too many people “do not appreciate the scale of the threat that is evolving on the planet.”

“One morning, just like 9/11, there’s going to be a disaster,” Gingrich said. “I have yet to see the United Nations do anything effective with either Iran or North Korea.”

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0409/20903.html

Nuclear disarmament is not going to happen. Ever. What I don’t think people understand is no matter how many kumbaya tea dances the left wants to have with terrorists and countries that don’t like us…they’re just saying WTF is wrong with you wing nuts? Look at North Korea. Does Obama do anything about it? No, and he won’t.

I can promise within six months there is a really bad terrorist attack in this country that makes 9/11 look like a picnic. So, what, the left wants us to just get into the Lotus position, pray and hope it goes away? Ridiculous. We are sitting ducks right now. I’m terrified and it’s all because people voted in this sick f**k Muslim who doesn’t have the ballz to stand up to anyone, especially the people who funded his career like the Saudis. Wonder how all the peace monger, Anti-American left will feel if its their own kids who get nuked? Then will it be okay if we defend ourselves from people who don’t like us? When can we defend ourselves?

The BBC says the rocket fails….

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/7984254.stm

Countries do not produce nuclear weapons to USE them – they get nuclear weapons to prevent other countries from attacking them. A deterent to other kinds of attacks. Iran, for example, wants a nuclear weapon because it fears a US attack similar to that on Iraq. North Korea wants to deter attacks from its neighbors who have nuclear weapons. Who can blame them?
Perhaps the answer to world peace would be for every country on the globe to have a nuclear weapon!

And it was all tin foil hat conspiracy when we called Obama the Manchurian Candidate? ROFLMAO. We’re about to see exactly what he and his owners have in store for us. He has already ridiculed, humiliated, insulted, degraded, pissed on, the US with his America hating speeches all over the world. Never once, never does he say anything about what a great nation we are. Never. But the loony tunes who voted for him still ooohhh and aahhhh over his hate filled speeches.

Now, he’s going to disarm us. Well, he said he would do so during the “selection.” Don’t the freaks in Congress who have families give a damn about this country’s safety? They’re going to just let Americans get murdered over this undercover Islamic Terrorist Obama? Who the hell is running this pathetic show?

In 2002, India and Pakistan were having a nuclear standoff over the disputed Kashmir territory. As soon as North Korea and Iran have working nukes there will be other global standoffs over territories, not just terrorism. In 2008, Pakistan helped send a group of trained terrorists into Mumbai where almost 180 Jewish, American and European hostages were tortured before being killed. Any country participating in terrorists attacks of this nature would have little restrain with their nukes.

You may not have read much of this in our press but India and other foreign press did not show such restraint and published photos of the victims who were tortured before being shot; along with what was done to the American Rabbi and his pregnant wife.

We haven’t been a “world leader” in nuclear restrain for at least a decade and traveling celebrity Soertoro/Obama may talk a good game but doesn’t follow through with any action that his fans might not like.

So now we have all the Obama talking heads running to the media saying the rocket launch failed, exactly what is the purpose of this?

Are we begging them to try again so we can say they failed before and promise to take action on them if they do it again? I really don’t understand what is the importance of saying ha boo you failed nice try.

To me all this is going to do just one thing make Kim get another launch pad ready to show the world that he can really send a missile off into space, maybe this is what some secretly wants him to do, in order that they can get their hidden agenda across and put into play.

America Wake Up…

http://objllc.com/americawakeup.htm

Must see.

Japan, despite weeks of hard line posturing, also apparently didn’t feel compelled to fire at it without debris or falling rocket components falling over the country causing clear damage.

I suspect that Japanese conservatives are satisfied with a successful launch if it renders the US as vulnerable to North Korea missile strikes as Japan and narrows the distance between the US and Japan on North Korea. On the other hand, NK has been unstable and belligerent for a LONG time now. When was the last time they attacked anyone?

So Barb do you think the US should have invaded Japan in order to end WW II? Do you think the casualties associated with an invasion would have been less than those that occurred from the dropping of the A-bomb? One of the things the US government considered going into the bombings were the invasions of Iwo Jima and Okinawa.

If you really want peace I think a more productive course would be pulling our troops from over 120 bases throughout the world.

Scott Johnson:

… Given North Korea’s existing nuclear weapons, the launch presents a threat to the the United States. Working in tandem with Iran, North Korea helped Syria install the nuclear reactor that Israel bombed last year. Iran’s nuclear program is itself on the verge of producing a nuclear weapon. With the Obama administration now working feverishly to conciliate Iran, one senses that we are sleepwalking toward the precipice.

http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2009/04/023255.php

But even if we got rid of them, wouldn’t nuclear power plants still pose a danger? Couldn’t a traditional missile, aimed at a nuclear power plant, ignite a nuclear crisis? Does anyone know? I’ve always wondered about that.

“sleepwalking toward the precipice.”

You got that right and I am mad as hell. We have a stoned, Radical Islam loving Muslim usurper in the White House, running all over the world pissing on America, weakening us, and he has no idea WTF to do to keep us safe, nor will he. I thought it couldn’t get worse, but between the Fraud sucking up to the Saudi King, then this N Korea thing…Does anyone on the LEFT give a damn, or are you going to let your sick f**K Congress keep this crap up? I can’t wait. If, and I mean IF there is anything left of us in 2010 I pray every single Demoncrap is voted OUT. Great time for the moonbats to talk about disarming this pathetic country.

Put simply, if you pound your swords into plowshares, your neighbor will watch you toil in your fields until you harvest the fruits of your labor. Then, when you’re not looking, he’ll pound your head in with a rock and take your harvest. Has history taught us nothing?

I was shocked to see the name of the most celebrated foreign policy expert of all time on the list; Jimmy Carter is such an inspiration. If Neville Chamberlain were alive, I’m sure we would see his name on the list also.

Regarding Korea, why don’t we disguise one of our stealth bombers to look like Mothra, (I’m sure the Japanese would provide technical advice and speakers capable of making an eardrum shattering screaching sound) have it swoop in and take out the damn missle on the launching pad, and make it into a third world box office hit. We could blame it on an act of nature. This would also keep the Koreans busy for some time creating a giant mechanized Godzilla as a defense from future Mothra attacks.

I’m leaning towards voting out every incumbent, regardless of party. I’m sick of all of them.

Okay, yes lorac, you are right. I don’t want to get attacked for what I said about the Dems, but Obama is THEIR Frankenstein, not the GOP’s. And honestly this country will never survive unless Dodd, Frank, Reid, Pelosi, etc. stop their reign of terror on us and, hey, they happen to be dems.

Obama, go home! I’m sick of this guy floating around Europe with his ridiculously naive and idealistic world view.

He, of course, decided to voice his support for Turkey becoming an EU member. Fortunately the French president had the balls to say it’s none of America’s business. Amen for that. According to Obama we need to prove the muslim world we are capable of being friends. Hello? We’ve been doing that for years now, that’s the reason why Islam will become our main religion by 2050. It’s their turn to offer the olive branch. Besides, where’s the responsibility of the US? Everytime these muslim countries are being bombed near our borders we get the pleasure of housing not-so-friendly-towards-West -refugees. Now even the Guantamo prisoners are taken in here. Thanks Obama.

I’m sick of pandering people who show nothing but detest in return. Besides I’m not quite sure why we Europeans even should become all cosy cosy with the Arab world? They’ve got oil, that’s it. Other than that they are very resource poor and religiously fundamental countries. Personally I don’t want to have anything to do with them when their oil has run out. Because that’s when the Middle East really explodes.

Sorry for the rant, I can’t stand politicians. Especially the ones who fly around the world wearing red-tinted glasses and preaching people what they should do. Somehow they always manage to keep their words on a general level, because talking about practical level would actually require some knowledge.

European…you rock. Thank you.

It would have the effect of a “dirty bomb” but it would not create a nuclear explosion.

Most nuclear reactors stateside are housed in concrete thick enough to repel most missle attacks.

Lorac, the chance that you’ll die horribly in your car on the way to the grocery store is astronomically higher than the risk of death posed by a nuclear reactor in your neighborhood. Relax.

I concur. I will not vote for any incumbent until they get the message that they are our employees and not masters.

The problem with nuclear weapons is that they give incomprehensible destructive powers to human beings, who periodically and predictably become collectively irrational. The repeated occurence of warfare throughout human history cleary demonstrates that, as a specie, we are not entirely sane. Periodically we run amuck and engage in the wholesale slaughter of one another. While in the grips of this contaneous insanity we become capable of rationalizing unspeakable horrors until the episode passes.

We can’t trust our enemies and we can’t trust ourselves. If we ever have a collectively lucid moment, we should do our best to get rid of the damn things–or at least scale down the number to a level less than what it would take to render the entire planet lifeless.

Whenever you hear “Queen Noor” speaking about nuclear disarmament she focuses her discussion mostly on one country and you can guess which. Hint: Not Pakistan, that has actually exploded an atomic weapon. I wonder what are her motives, as she bats those innocent eyes?

I’m rather curious what European nation you might reside in, given that you’ve picked up such distinctly American English. Would you mind saying?

Oh, great, now I have to worry about going to the store?

OK, thanks, good to know about the plants – I always wondered about that.

…contagious insanity…

What makes it distinctly american english. Read it out loud or aloud with a british accent. It’s sounds distinctly well – ENGLISH!!

BWAAHAAAA!

What difference does it make?

Perfectly stated cynic. I can think of 69,000,000 infected souls.

LOL!

Look what Barky has done to me! I agree with Newt. I am watching Fox……

Ditto:-)

Stop the lovefest and pay my bills!

Thank you, I’ll take that as a compliment. I’m a Scandinavian, won’t be more exact in the fear of getting moody hopey-changey men behind my door.

Thank you for the kind reply. Your proficiency with an additional language is something I admire–an accomplishment unfortunately less common here in the United States than in Europe.

I also understand why European thinking concerning Islam might differ considerably from my own. Here, the sense of a threat often seem disproportionate to the relatively small population.

cynic – 9/11. Period.

The potential for this form of insanity crosses all party lines, religious lines, racial lines, and national boundaries. The only homo sapiens who might as a group be less vulnerable to acting out are women.

Any effort to gather a global consensus on global issues is an investment in the world’s future in terms of precedent and practice of foreign policy. To be honest, America has sucked at foreign policy calling it still, in a single military term, “engagement”. It is ok, America, not to be the superhero all the time. Rather we might become, in the long term, pragmatic global peacebuilders preceded by new set of semantics such as global consensus building. With regard to the pragmatic use of energy, nuclear power may be one of the energy use alternatives for every country including Iran. From what I understand, you do not need pure weapons grade uranium to run a nuclear power plant – (33% purity – correct?) If so, oversight of the global nuclear power industry would have criteria for which to judge intentions. Peace is a long way off – change in foreign policy is here and now.

Perhaps you should consider changing your name from “cynic”, to “suck-up”.

Perhaps you should try to take an objective look at human behavior.

Oh my — I keep trying not to be what might be called racist…But what Obama is overturning on the terriorist level does make it spooky.

i think they did..

RE: HRH Noor

Her Highness (nee Lisa Halaby) is well-preserved, still has a first-class mind, and maintains a great command of English.

One of the USA’s (and Princeton’s) better Exports!

Anyone here think Michelle Obama can carry her shoes metaphorically?

The most unimaginably cruel, heartlessly viscious, and near violent reactions and attacks toward Sarah Palin ALL came from women. Men also went after Sarah, but nothing to the degree that women did. The Heather Mallick article is mild compared to many other womens’ attacks.

The stories and accounts of unspeakable torture devised by native Americans are shocking. But when the men REALLY wanted their prisoners to suffer, they would hand them over to the squaws.

Humans can be, and often are cruel beyond belief, but there are plenty of accounts of female cruelty to suggest that they share an equal capacity for irrational and destructive behavior as the male of the species. Historically, they just haven’t had as many opportunities and positions of power to prove it.

I seriously doubt there is any evidence or studies that show women to be less capable of pushing the button than men. If there is evidence to that effect, perhaps that SHOULD be an important consideration when choosing a leader; but is that a good thing, or a bad thing?

Andrew is right. I still have some serious problems dealing with what “women” did to Palin this past year. It was the most unspeakable, venal, vicious, unnecessary behavior I have ever witnessed. It made me embarrassed that the tenor of our nation was to destroy strong, healthy, beautiful women at any cost. I was ashamed to be female when that went on. I wouldn’t be touting females as the all peaceful ones and certainly not those crazy nuts from NOW, etc.

CORRECTION

“HM Queen Noor of Jordan,” vs. “HRH Noor.”

My bad.

i.m afraid bo is going to disarm us..we sure cannot disarm the world.

Did anyone see this in the news? OMFG this moron is going to get us all killed, literally…

Friday, February 20, 2009
Obama Declares War on Austria: Teleprompter Mishap Blamed

WASHINGTON, D.C. – Austrian officials have closed their embassy and returned to Vienna following a gaffe by President Obama in which he declared war on that central European nation. “The president was lecturing on the economy, talking about ‘eradicating austerity,’” said White House press secretary Robert Gibbs. “Well, there was a teleprompter typo and he read ‘eradicate Austria.’ When he tried to correct the error, he started stuttering and couldn’t stop for six minutes. I think he lost the audience.” As the State Department attempts to mediate the crisis, sources in Vienna reported the Austrian army had called up over 90 men and stationed its tank at a likely border crossing.

Okay that was satire, whew. But I did hear that when speaking in Austria he said he “didn’t speak Austrian.” Don’t they speak GERMAN?

I think Obama should try a test before ridding the USA of its nuclear weapons by laying off all of his secret service staff and see how well that goes for his safety.

Yes they do.

What bothers me is that sort of scenario is plausible, since That One doesn’t bother to learn anything about which he is off-gassing. His TelePrompTer could display the words, “I’m an idiot”, and That One would say them verbatim.

Can someone rescue my last comment from the shredder.

Thanks

Okay, so this is another gaffe that will never get reported, even though it’s in the news other places. He DID say….uhh…uhhh…I don’t speak AUSTRIAN. Can someone please tell me when this goddamned disaster is going to end? Please?

Coulda taken AH-nold with im. AH-nold speaks Austrian.