You Said I Shouldn’t, So I Will — Quote Republicans

Well, I said screw DNC, Pelosi, Dodd, Kennedy, the windsurfer and everyone. I have had enough and will vote McCain w/o hesitation. Thanks to Larry, Susan and the good people on this blog for allowing us, the low class Democrats to vent our anger here.

First of all, you are a very brave woman. Kudos.

Second of all, I listened to the first clip.

Oh. My. Goodness.

You may convert me to watching Fox News!

OF COURSE they were negative towards Obama and Clinton and positive towards McCain, but at least they have a real grasp of the issues that all candidates face, and they talked about them in a realistic way.

And nowhere did I hear the ridiculous, overblown Hillary Hatred that has driven me away from the blogs I used to love.

Makes me wonder if the Haters on those blogs are paid shills for Fox. Maybe they’re just turning off all of our liberal news sources so we HAVE to watch the Evil Empire!!!

[only partially kidding]

What can I say? Dead on!

Perhaps it would be more productive to ask how a large number of Hillary’s supporters have reached the stage where they feel that their traditional enemies—even Scaife, even Karl Rove— are speaking more rationally, objectively and justly than our fellow Democrats. Matter for reflection, guys.

Yes, indeed. Matter for reflection, guys.

I am as unlikely a person to ever catch agreeing with any of the aforementioned as they come. But here we are.

It is amazing what “relentless scorn, sanctimony, and contempt” will do to a person.

I’m shocked that your mud flinging has not been received with the respect it deserves. Uncle Karl appreciates the sensitive genius of your soul. You were meant to be together.

Please watch Hill on Mad Money tonight:
CNBC link
video embedded

she is SO ON THE BALL on the economy!!
How long until Obama cribs these talking points? He could not ave answered 1/3 of Cramer’s questions the way Hill did. Her command of the issues is evident. How anyone could choose Obama over Clinton is beyond me:

http://www.cnbc.com/id/23918582

I am TIRED of the persona non grata treatment by the far-left wing hacks, maniacs, nonsensical, sinister, illogical, name-calling numbnuts with half-brained, malformed vision for this country.

I don’t want to stay in a party that is this crazy.

Diaries like this are one of the reasons I like you so much Susan. You have courage and you aren’t about to conform to the Obamania of the Obamedia.

UnPC indeed!

found link for full video of Hill on Mad Money this evening, enjoy it is awesome, she is simply the best in the field of candidates today on the economy .

http://www.cnbc.com/id/15840232?video=700530203

Something that Rove is playing on here—Obama’s dad is a foreigner. He was careful to point that out repeatedly.

This reminds me of Michael Howard in the UK. He was called the Transylvanian…his familty was from that area.

To what extent must a candidate be seen as a son of the soil and to what extent should their international connection be emphasized?

Tricky subject. you can start to see Rove enjoy his work now. That he is even involved this year suggests he expect some good results. Carville and Begala skipped out on 2000 and 2004…

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You go, girl! I agree with your stance completely, Susan. I find myself watching FOX more and more often. If you would have told me a year ago that I would find Karl Rove interesting and on target, I would have said, “Yeah, right after my lobotomy!!” —But here I am, tuning in to Rove, Laura Ingraham, and a bunch of others just like them. I even find myself cheering after a good Rush Limbaugh quote. Pitiful, isn’t it. After this election, I’ll have to check into a good rehab program—or maybe seek some kind of spiritual enlightenment since it feels like I’ve been to the dark side.

and when they do the same to Hillary?

“they’re calling out Barack Obama’s misstatements and outright lies — I’m right there with them.”

and when they do the same to Hillary?

Off topic, sorry, this is a report from the Rezko trial today, where witness Stuart Levine directly implicated Gov Blagojevich.

“Blago” has hinted, per the report from the Tribune’s “Clout Street Blog” Obama is up to hiss ears in this corruption, also.

Blagojevich tied to Rosenberg problem

April 2, 2008; 5:38 p.m.
As testimony ended Wednesday in the corruption trial of Antoin “Tony” Rezko, there was new information that raises questions about what the governor knew and when he knew it.

Star prosecution witness Stuart Levine said he heard in the same meeting with Rezko that Gov. Rod Blagojevich himself had been made aware of the Thomas Rosenberg problem.

Rezko said Blagojevich was told what was going on and agreed with Rezko’s plan to handle it, Levine testified.

But Blagojevich told Rezko something else as well, Levine said.

“He felt that this was the last thing that Mr. Rosenberg should get from the state,” Levine said the governor had told Rezko.

Political fixer William Cellini and Levine spoke by phone the next day, and federal agents were listening in.

Levine told Cellini about Blagojevich because Cellini had hung up from the meeting before Rezko had mentioned the governor.

Cellini said he had received similar information about Blagojevich through Rezko.

“The big guy said, ‘Rosenberg means nothing to him,’ ” Cellini said on the call.

Levine told the jury he took that to mean Blagojevich did not feel that he owed Rosenberg anything.

The day of testimony ended without prosecutors ending their direct examination, meaning Rezko’s lawyers should get their first crack at Levine sometime Thursday.

We have a problem, Levine says he told Rezko

April 2, 2008; 4:59 p.m.
Prosecutors in the corruption trial of Antoin “Tony” Rezko had star witness Stuart Levine describe on Wednesday afternoon the outcome of angry threats by a principal at Capri Capital Advisors to go to authorities with claims he was being extorted by Rezko and fellow fundraiser Christopher Kelly.

Thomas Rosenberg had threatened to go to the government or “stand at State and Madison” and make public the alleged play to block Capri’s $220 million deal with the Teachers’ Retirement System unless he made a campaign contribution to Gov. Rod Blagojevich.

Levine said he and political fixer William Cellini, who had approached Rosenberg about his TRS issue, believed that Rosenberg was the kind of person who would take action and make good on his warnings to go to authorities. So Levine and Cellini decided that Rezko should be told what had taken place as they decided what to do next, Levine testified.

Levine said he tried to set up a meeting with Rezko and Kelly not long after Kelly had called him and Cellini about the Rosenberg problem. In fact, Kelly was talking to both him and Cellini on two cell phones at the same time, Levine said.

“He’s like a bull in a china closet,” Cellini said of Kelly on one call heard by the jury.

Eventually, Levine said, he talked to Rezko at his office with Kelly while Cellini joined on a speakerphone. It was May 11, 2004, just days before Capri’s allocation was to be voted on by the TRS board.

Kelly was aggravated, Levine told the jury, but Rezko wanted things settled down. “Mr. Rezko felt that the situation should be dealt with dispassionately, and the situation should be disarmed,” Levine said.

Levine quoted Rezko as saying, “Mr. Rosenberg was a dangerous individual, and nobody wanted to be put in a dangerous situation.”

TRS should grant Capri the $220 million, Rezko allegedly said.

“But, in fact, that should be the last business that Mr. Rosenberg does with the State of Illinois,” Levine recalled Rezko telling him

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http://newsblogs.chicagotribune.com/clout_st/2008/01/blagojevich-tri.html

From the Chicago tribune Clout Street blog. 1.29.08:

Posted by Monique Garcia and John Chase at 8:40 p.m.

With Antoin “Tony” Rezko’s federal corruption trial looming, Gov. Rod Blagojevich on Tuesday tried to deflect the heat he’s been getting over his former adviser and top fundraiser by pointing out he’s not the only politician who has received help from Rezko.

Blagojevich ticked off a list of elected officials who also have ties to the indicted developer. While not naming them, he made reference to everyone from Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama to House Speaker Michael Madigan, his political nemesis, and Madigan’s daughter, Atty. Gen. Lisa Madigan.

When asked if he regretted his relationship with Rezko, the governor said he was not alone in facing “some of the occupational hazards that go along with being in politics.”

“We presume and hope that people who are helping us are doing things honestly and forthrightly, and then sometimes there are allegations to suggest that maybe not,” he said Tuesday following a news conference in downtown Chicago.

“And then you deal with all the incoming that comes along with it, whether you’re a governor of a state like Illinois, or a presidential candidate, or an attorney general, or a lieutenant governor, or a speaker of the House or even Republicans who’ve also been the beneficiaries of some of Mr. Rezko’s help.”

Rezko has had ties to each of those politicians in some fashion over the years, from a once-close relationship with Obama, a first-term U.S. senator, to co-hosting a $3.8 million Chicago fundraiser in 2003 for President Bush. Lt. Gov. Patrick Quinn also received contributions from Rezko’s former development company.

Blagojevich twice made reference to Obama, whose ties to Rezko have become highlighted in the national coverage of his bid for the presidency. On Monday, Blagojevich was the lone statewide elected official left out of a news conference showcasing Obama’s widespread backing among Illinois Democrats.

“This gentleman that you’re talking about is now a national figure,” Blagojevich said of Rezko. “He’s someone who’s been involved with helping people in politics for a long time.”

But the connections between Rezko and the governor have run deep since Blagojevich first ran for the office. Not only did he raise hundreds of thousands of dollars for Blagojevich’s first campaign run, he also played an early role in recommending his associates for top administration positions and acting as a political sounding board for the governor.

lago and Obama seem to have a very strong Rezko connection, he “nurtured” each the same way, almost like brothers.

But according to Levine, Rezko wanted to make Blago president, initially.

they already have. Countless times. Thousands and thousands of times. That doesn’t mean they’re always wrong.

I’ll file that away.

Comment by Kevin | 2008-04-02 20:16:26

and when they do the same to Hillary?

Well, Kevin, why should I worry about that?? By that time, Hillary will be elected, and I’ll be in FOX withdrawal rehab. Fiddle dee dee. Tomorrow’s another day!!

It’ll be expected and dealt with. Simple. They are Republicans after all.

Kevin my file on you is just overflowing with hypocritical hogwash. I tried serving it to the pigs on Obama’s farm, but even they wouldn’t slop it up. Go figure huh?

Oink Oink!

you never cease to entertain. Thanks for being consistent.

Thank you! I like you back. That was a hell of a piece today on the media.

As the Spy-guy well knows, one can learn a lot from listening to enemy communications, including propagnada, lies and disinformation. During WWII and the cold war, much time and effort was spent on intercepts and codebreaking. If someone such as Karl Rove is willing to speak, we have an obligation to analyze what was said, and use it to our own advantage, even if the NSA or CIA aren’t interested.

And how times have changed. At one time I thought that the only Republicans worth listening to were those on Mt. Rushmore: A. Lincoln and T. Roosevelt.

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Thanks Simon..Good job..Interesting Info..

this is only the Beginning of April..There is a Long ways to go..and alot of things can happen..

Thats WHY Hillary needs to hang in there..all the way to the Convention..and this nation needs to be Prepared for ANYTHING..

What IF..?? What If..??

WHO Could Have anticipated.??

Duck..Cheneys taking the Party Hunting again..

And someone has a stack of rotten Eggs..

Like Laryy said..The FAT LADY..Hasn’t sung yet..
and the band hasn’t even warmed up..

Oh Do Da Day…

Calling someone out for their nonsense is not mudflinging. And if you keep saying we’re bosom buddies with Karl Rove, it’ll make it all the more unlikely many of us will go out and vote for Obama. Many of us would stay home; some here actually do prefer McCain (So does MA, the bluest of states, according to the Survey USA poll). So if you’re doing everything you can to destroy Obama’s chances for the GE, you’re doing Rove’s work for him. I’m sure if he’d thank anyone, it’d be you.

think of this site like a cranky old bastard at Langly or GCHQ telling you what is on the other side of the hill.

When this is all over these fools will claim that they’re sorry for going completely off the rails. It’s already too late. The damage has been done. It’s not even about our outrage, but what they’d done to Clinton’s candidacy and our chances as Americans to help out our country by selecting someone who could fix this mess we’re in. We need her. She’s the only candidate left that even promises us a chance at changing things for the better, especially with a terrifying economy. If Clinton isn’t the nominee, we’ll know it was because of them and a DNC that rigged the game so blatantly they were willing to disenfranchise two crucial states! And they sure enjoyed themselves when they did it, even going so far as mocking the rest of us when we told they’re hurting the party and Obama.

The hell with them! Besides, Obama is not even qualified to be a serious presidential candidate. He is not! Why would I give such power, in a time of crisis no less, to someone who continues to believe one speech (with no action to back it up), some community organizing, and spending early years in Indonesia as a little kid prepares him to be president?! It’s absolutely absurd! An Obama presidency would be the worst possible outcome: Democrats would get all the blame for Bush’s mess since Obama obviously won’t have a clue as how to undo the damage.

And if you keep saying we’re bosom buddies with Karl Rove, it’ll make it all the more unlikely many of us will go out and vote for Obama.

Right on, Nathan. Right on. I have never — never — witnessed anything close to the ugly, sanctimonious, vicious attacks of the Obamabots. Never.

More evidence is on its way in the form of a post here. Stay tuned. (I am not happy about it. But it is a story that must be posted. I think FleaFlicker is doing it. Besides the nastiness of the Obamabots’ attacks, they’ve also tried — at every turn — to censor and SILENCE those of us for Hillary. Tonight, you will see fresh evidence of that.)

Poor Nathan, all that spin made you dizzy. The whole world seems to be spinning, around and around it goes. Where it stops nobody knows.

You’re a McCain voter right Nathan?

I never thought I would ever tune into FOX,but it’s the only place I can go to hear the stuff about Obama that everyone else pretends doesn’t exist. I have a video somewhere of an Obamazoid literally assaulting a fox news person and Jesse Jackson had to tell the guy to cut it out. I mean it was frightening.

Notice how they can’t help themselves. They just go on and on and on. We’ll see who laughs last.

funny!

Did I ever tell you that I Make perfect Chicken Gravy..Mr. Angelton..?? In fact i’m making some now..with Pan Fried chicken and Idaho Mashed Potatos..

Some of us have known for a Long time what is on the other Side…

As the interview on Fox News illustrates, the unknown “Obama Factor” and his normal politician tactics will sink his ship, and that is why Obama will lose in the General Election. I hope that the delegates will realize this come July…

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Questions Surround Obama’s Campaign:
http://questionbarackobama.blogspot.com

Hatred of Hillary (and the Clintons) may get Obama the nomination….

Once Obama loses that – and the free ride from the anti-Clinton press that goes with it – all he’ll have is the likes of Richardson saying how “special” Obama is.

Can he get elected with the coalition of the “special”? It’s a gamble we should not be taking.

I posted a vid awhile back of Hillary and Cramer. She was fantastic! I also have one of Cramer being asked who the best candidate is and he said Hillary Hands Down.

Duck..Cheneys taking the Party Hunting again..

Speaking of duck…

Poor Harry, though, I wonder how he’s doing?

Did Cheney have oil guys with him, last time, or just fellow would be world conquerors, the Armstrongs, and such?

What a fun group…

Hatred of Hillary (and the Clintons) may get Obama the nomination….

I don’t see that hate anymore, really, I see sexism, and I see a lot of spoiled, no talent corrupt boys, bloggerz, and otherwise, ranting about the indignities of a woman kicking their self entitled, insecure fat butts, but hate?

Not really.

We will see hate if she wins the nomination, and that from the republicans.

Unless McCain does take the high road, in terms of playing the usual Clinton violin, which he might.

Another fine young soldier got killed in Iraq this weekend..father of four, and what wonderful Parents….

It was His third Tour fighting Dick Cheneys Occupation of Iraq..

I doubt that Dick Cheney even knows, or will send flowers or a Card..

But, I sure He got a kick out of having the Shieks name an Oil Field after Him..and assuring him of a Villa..Maybe even a Discrete
“Hunting trip” with Osama..wink wink..

Of Course, behind his back, everyone calls him
“DAFFY DICK”..

Yes. Mr. Angleton..We know whats on the other Side..

You shall Know the Truth..etc..etc..etc..

You all are the whiniest pile of punks I’ve ever seen in my life!

Agreed totally, noquarterusa. Am totally turned off by “progressive” blogosphere and TV. I’ve never seen such reprehensible language and coverage, and refuse to be around it. At least with right-TV, you’re getting some use of real facts when applied to a candidate.

The Jeremiah Wright factor may have sunk in the subconscious of a number of Democrat-inclined voters, for now. But trust the GOP to make Rev. Wright this year’s “Ultimate Comeback Kid” if Pelosi, Dean, Kennedy, Kerry, Leahy and all the other Obamabots succeed in making Rezko’s best friend the party nominee! Between Cindy McCain and Michelle Obama, I would rather have the Barbie clone any day – although I am still praying for the White House to have a first gentleman in January 2009 instead.

Karl Rove must be just waiting to get at Obama, he must be putting together his files every time I see him on FOX he gives us bits and pieces as he set the stage, he is making Obama his study, and if anyone listening to Rove cannot take a hint as to exactly all that he would be throwing at Obama well they all better wake up.

Pretty much sums up how I, an AA Democrat wound up here. When it became clear that these people were pretty much telling me I could kiss their ass, I decided that they’ll have to WIN WITHOUT ME! And according to a report on Yahoo, Obama is talking about re-shaping the electorate by going after all of these apathetic black voters under 35, registering and motivating them to vote.

Bulletin:

He’s basically saying that HE CAN WIN WITHOUT US DISGRUNTLED over 35 voters.

What’s funny about this is what I’ve been saying for a long time: this biracial man is absolutely clueless about the black community. He’s exploiting the half of him that is our color in order to ride into the WH. (There’s no small irony in that comment, btw.) He is going after a segment of the population with HUGE sociological issues, involving them in a process based on the politics of racialism, and encouraging them to think that his being the president is going to immediately effect their lives.

Unaware of how the process works, that the POTUS has to work with Congress and that the government is a series of checks & balances, many of these young people are going to be shocked and disillusioned when there are no dramatic or substantive changes in their lives. He has NO IDEA the degree of anger he could unleash when these same young people realize that they have been PLAYED!

I KNOW. Unlike Barack and Michelle Obama, I live with my people in the inner city and not in some Rezko financed mansion.

That the Democratic Party will not allow into their consciousness that HUGE numbers of loyal Democrats are angry to the point where they are actually listening to people like Karl Rove, has got to be worse than the French Aristocrats’ behaviour before the peasants stormed the Bastille. They should take heed and remember what happened to them.

If someone had told me a year ago that I would actually sit through a telecast and listen to anything that Karl Rove said, I would have invited them outside to kick some serious butt.

The Party can’t believe that they can simply discount us and that there won’t be serious hell to pay. Do they really think all of these voters will stay committed to the process? If they do, then they all must be smoking CRACK.

I think we all know whether we care to give voice to it at this point or not:

THIS IS NOT GOING TO TURN OUT WELL!

On the rare occasion that Fox gets something right, of course you should quote it. As for the other so-called progressive websites, considering how much they get wrong in their attacks on Clinton they have no moral high-ground from which to criticize anybody.

Hope is entertaining and smart too.

Weapon Obama speaks of “Hope” he uses it as a weapon. A blunt one at. File that one ok?

Preach it!

As a over 35 ex-Edwards supporter and independent(though my political positions sync in with Bernie Sanders). There was no way in hell that I would have been caught dead watching Fox and listening to Luntz and Rove even 3 months ago.

But the transformation of the “progressive” blogo-sphere into goosestepping Obama worshipers and the MSM whitewashing every mistake he has made has made me a FoxNews viewer.

Not by choice but by necessity.

Fox now looks like a bastion of rationality compared to the fainting couch clowns of CNN and MSNBC.

P.S. IMO the Democratic party will rue the day they let a bunch of dim witted 20 somethings dictate party politics.

A death of a thousand cuts is Karls specialty. To bad Obama is the one furnishing the blade sharpened with his own lies.

susanunpc, do you mean the disappeared post? i just read it and was so furious i could barely breathe. everyone should be sure to read it. when lin’s beautiful article is censored, you know that the brownshirts are taking over.

Over 35 and over the hill chiming in. Do you get the feeling this guy has a problem with older people? I’ve gotten an ageist vibe from this candidate for a long time, can’t put my finger on why.

…and considering he goes into the fetal position when he’s criticized, it would be a blast to watch.

I can still remember that guy leaving the hospital with his face looking like hamburger, saying pretty much that he was sorry his face got in the way of Cheney’s buckshot.

Am I happy Karl Rove is on Fox Noise instead of an 8×5 where he belongs, doing the eternal frog march?!

F*** NO.

Does it bother me this seditious traitor is telling it like it is? NO
He is working with facts that are not in public domain and threw the obvious stuff out there to establish a base line.

What was revealing about what Karl Rove said was how easily it rolled of his tongue…He made no comparative statements.

What is the most disturbing? “Your wearing me out bro”
He should get some rest and admit it for a second time he is not able to answer the phone at any time of day.
I mean can you see Obama working a split shift 3 to 7 at dairy milking the cows?

So..Teak..Put down your guitar and go to Bed..

Yes..I can see Obama milking cows..thats what he does best..didn’t you see him on with a bunch of them the other day..He wuz milking them good..

Lets see..What is the name of that day time Show..??

Goodnite Teak..

If you’re trying to build a larger and stronger team FOR Obama, A Democrat, you’re failing.

You damage your candidate in your own arrogance.

THINK, fool.

I don’t think Obama’s “son of the soil” issue will be important.

But I DO think, with moderates, Independents, and Reagan Democrats, Obama’s use of his African father (Dreams of….yada yada) to appeal to the AA vote, while the true stories that his Dad was an alcoholic, a bigamist, a “typical Black father” abandoning his child and never looking backward…..

While at the same time Obama seems to DIMINISH the fact that his white family were really the ones who raised him, loved him, gave him every advantage including expensive prep schools, fed his “dreams” and built his self-esteem,

THAT will resonate with middle America.

And ironically, the Bradley effect–while it had nothing to do with Hillary’s New Hampshire win, it may very well, NOW, have everything to do with Obama losing in November.

All the white, liberal, elitists in the Democratic Party—including websites like DKos and TPM—-will never change that. It won’t be about racism. It will be about Obama’s lack of gratitude for the very people who DIDN’T abandon him, and stood by him through thick and thin.

Not the color of the skin, but the content of the character, as MLK told us all.

And we’ll end up, AGAIN, losing in November.

They don’t want you to use Republicans as your source, but they don’t want you to use progressives like Joe Wilson and Valerie Plame as your source either. Given that they have flamed every known progressive who isn’t in the tank for Obama, it’s sort of clear that they don’t care who the source is–really–as long as that source is pro-Obama.

They’ll rave about Chuck Hagel and Colin Powell–REPUBLICANS–one day, and tout their consideration for VP, if it suits their hypocrisy. And, the very next day, they’ll turn around and whine about progressive blogs using Republicans as a source.

It’s rank hypocrisy. The clear fact is that Obama’s supporters have, like their candidate, failed to win over the vast majority of Democrats. They cannot win in November; but they’ll take the Democratic Party down with them by forcing the Democratic Party to bend to their will.

Fine. Let the Dems go down, says I. I won’t be a party to it. I’m not voting for Barack Obama in November. I’m voting for Hillary Clinton; or I’m not voting. And, if–WHEN–John McCain becomes the President, Markos will say it was all Hillary Clinton’s fault. Because Markos is nothing if not a hypocrite.

This person also posts at other sites and supports no one. S/he just goes around dropping bombs for the pleasure of it.

I wish this site had something along the lines of rankings… that was funny.