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Air America’s Randi Rhodes Suspended: We Did It! [Updated x2]

UPDATE: Let’s contact Air America Radio and tell its top brass that we want Taylor Marsh to replace Randi Rhodes. Taylor tells it like it is, but she has class and dignity. She also has a wicked sense of humor and the lively style needed for AM radio. Taylor would be perfect! Let them know!
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Do you remember the video we posted on April 1 — in which Randi Rhodes called both Geraldine Ferraro and Hillary Clinton “whores”? The YouTube that our video whiz C.S. created from an ordinarily non-transferrable source, and posted at YouTube? (It’s below the fold for those who missed it.)

C.S.’s YouTube video went “viral” (writers posted it all over the blogosphere!) — and now Randi Rhodes has been suspended from Air America Radio. Here’s Air America’s official statement:

STATEMENT OF AIR AMERICA RADIO, FROM CHAIR CHARLIE KIREKER
By air america

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
April 3, 2008

New York – Air America has suspended on-air host Randi Rhodes for making inappropriate statements about prominent figures, including Senator Hillary Clinton, at a recent public appearance on behalf of Air America in San Francisco which was sponsored by an Air America affiliate station.

“Air America encourages strong opinions about public affairs but does not condone such abusive, ad hominem language by our Hosts,” said chair Charlie Kireker.

UPDATE x2, from the New York Times, at the end — her suspension is “indefinite”:

Thank you, C.S. You made this happen.

(And thanks to Pacific John for sending me the official statement of Air America Radio.)

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UPDATE x2:

From the New York Times‘s Caucus blog today:

Randi Rhodes, an afternoon host for the progressive Air America radio network, was suspended Thursday after repeatedly insulting Hillary Rodham Clinton at an event last month.

Ms. Rhodes used vulgar language that likened Ms. Clinton to a prostitute at an event sponsored by KKGN, the Air America affiliate in the San Francisco area, on March 22. A video of Ms. Rhodes’ remarks was published to the video-sharing Web site YouTube on Tuesday, prompting condemnations by some bloggers.

In a statement, Charlie Kireker, the chair of Air America, said the radio network “encourages strong opinions about public affairs but does not condone such abusive, ad hominem language by our hosts.”

The network called Ms. Rhodes’ suspension “indefinite” and did not elaborate on the fate of her daily three-hour radio show. “The Randi Rhodes Show” is normally broadcast from 3 to 6 p.m. weekdays. Sam Seder, another Air America host, was scheduled to fill in for Ms. Rhodes on Thursday…

(Thanks, Ron, for sending me the NYT post.)

  • truthteller2007

    Now it is time to topple Roland Martin.

    • http://hyper-educated-uppity-woman.blogspot.com Uppity

      You mean the guy who said Obama had BETTER get the nomination or his listeners will be VERY angry?

      Actually Roland doesn’t bother me much anymore. Or that Amy person. This is because, except for Dobbs, I never tune into CNN any longer. And never will.

    • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2nXYHvbFl3A Soundtracking

      Hey guys, I have another version of the video here. Comments are enable, unlike the other one shown above. This needs to be discussed to stop the foul play.
      See below for the link.

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2nXYHvbFl3A

      • C.S.

        Sountracking, thank you for posting another clip for people to comment. I cannot keep up with moderating some of the hateful comments that I see. I turned off the comments when the post was put up like all the recent ones because I don’t ahve the time to moderate a video blog.

        I simply run the channel to help the Blogs, and all you readers, to see for yourself the footage you may have missed. I get attacked for posting the videos as if I was Hillary Clinton herself. I’ve been told I’m a DLC hack:

        Youtube user: wildofski
        You give yourself away as a DLC Democrat when you can’t even bother to spell Randi Rhodes name correctly. Anyways its too late, as its now over for the Clintons and the rest of the self-hating neo-con liberals. Its time for the Progressives (True Democrats)to salvage what the thugs have done to the Party and return it back its true traditionand core beliefs

        It is amusing that people project their feelings on you, but it is also indicative of some severe psychosis in American citizens.

        We’ve had over 120,000 views to this clip in 2 days. Its amazing. I thank Susan and Larry, Fleaflicker and the other great bloggers here for their job. I’m simply a video worker. I don’t almost never endorse the comments found in the clips. I am not a Democrat, nor Republican. I support your right to view for yourself. All clips but one, are raw from the TV. The only one that is edited is Donna Brazile’s comments about “moderate” black preachers.

        Take care crew, back to my silence…(lots of videos to post now)

        • TeakWoodKite

          How the actions of one reaches so many, I applaud your efforts.C.S>

          • C.S.

            compliments should more appropriately be directed to Larry J and Susan who sent me the request for the video. I tuned out Randi Rhodes and AirAmerica years ago, even then I only listened to Franken. I like the Young Turks still, but I can get them via podcast now.

            I just cut and upload.

            • TeakWoodKite

              Spin up sq 1 thru 10. everyone has value.

              “War is a continuation of politics by other means.” Von Clausewitz

              C.S., Larry J and Susan Thanks.

    • Nancy

      The people on this blogs are all Nazis.

  • JoeySky

    that’s a very appropriate action by Air America management. this kind of abusive language is not appropriate in any circumstance.

    • Susanclare

      Yes, Joey I agree. How about Taylor Marsh taking her place? A class act on our liberal station. Sounds like a match to me!

    • Petoire

      Another person who is getting slammed for telling the truth, just like Obama’s pastor. Get over it people! Most politicians are whores.

  • http://hyper-educated-uppity-woman.blogspot.com Uppity

    Oh.My.God. How good is that? C.S. you rock!

  • DisenfranchisedVoter

    YES! Thank you No Quarter and C.S.! I’ve sent numerous emails to Rhodes telling her to quit the Clinton bashing. I am glad that she was arrogant and stupid enough to think she could get away with this. This isn’t the 20th century anymore. EVERYTHING is caught on videotape these days and she should’ve known better not to say anyhting that outrageous in public. I hope she doesn’t come back. Hire Taylor Marsh to take her spot! Haha. I’m sure the Obamabots will have a riot if Taylor Marsh was ever offered a show on Air America.

    • http://noquarterusa.net/ SusanUnPC

      That is a great idea. Taylor is also civilized and polite in her discourse — but also very entertaining and lively. She would be a great AAR host.

      • Sammie

        Taylor would be a great choice!

      • AmyinSC

        Thanks for the info, Susan – I just used the link to write AAR and suggested they relieve Rhodes of her duties, and consider Taylor as a replacement. At the very least they could give her a try while Rhodes is suspended. Here’s hoping they listen to us!

      • roy

        I think Air America should subscribe to Michael Savages show, he hates everyone, especially Bush.

    • maryann

      Thank You No Quarter and C.S. you rock

      • C.S.

        ur welcome.

    • http://hyper-educated-uppity-woman.blogspot.com Uppity

      That’s what happens when you get too much power. You get careless and think you can do or say whatever you want.

      The same goes for dishonesty. The more you do it, the more mistakes you make. Eventually you fall on your own sword.

    • http://ObamabillsandNewPolitics verminme

      Everything except Obama’s alleged 2002 anti-war speech. Just sayin’

      • http://ObamabillsandNewPolitics verminme

        Oops; I was referring to Disenfranchised voter’s comment re: everything being videotaped these days.

    • Nancy

      Why because Clinton really did lie and cheat about NAFTA- pull your heads out of your asses.

      • pepe

        get the hell out of here idiot…..

  • flyarm

    honestly these people have really jumped the shark..am i the only one who thinks these obamabots are no different than Rush Limpballs and O,liely.. and the kool aide drinking bushbots of old?..i am ashamed to say they are in my party!

    They are stealing our votes like the repubs..and now they behave just like the neo con bushbots..

    i hope sincerely that we all shut them down and they lose all their ratings..maybe then some sence will come to them what a democracy is about.

    It is not about bullying and arrogance..and transference..or projection..

    i see no difference of these so called dems than i saw in the putrid neo con media types and the gushing us to war based on lies..now it is the Obama lies..and by our own side..

    well i no longer see two parties..i see one big power party with one big giant money potnin the middle and just a tug of war over who wields the power.

    and to hell with us common folks..you know ..the dumb schlups who pay the bills!

    well these type will never get my ratings again..even if it means turning all tv and radio off!

    I have my little music in my ear i am getting to like again!..

    hell they don’t want our votes..they are pissing on democracy..and then wanting us to listen to their bullcrap..no thanks!

    I’ll pass!

    • http://hyper-educated-uppity-woman.blogspot.com Uppity

      Thank GOD for the internet or the entire country would be stepfordized by now.

      • norrismorris

        DON’T BE TIMID ABOUT QUESTIONING THE TACTICS OF OBAMA CAMPAIGN’s DIRTY TRICKS>

        The race card is ready to stop you from criticizing o or demanding he stop avoiding,evading, and dissembling as he did re Rev Wright.. The Media have hypnotized the public, and Dean,Pelosi and co are hoping to ride this wave of perceptiomn, and push Obama into nomination prior to convention where they THEN will seat Fla and Mi delegates to look good, and hope to snooker all of us, including of course…Clinton.

        Black power groups and surrrogates are hard at work in Media and churches and in congress with threatening death threats, punishment at the polls, and worse.

        Democrats are buckling under this wave of black fascism.

        • llilytoo

          Behind the black fascism you will find very white Wall St.etc. who wish to wreck the Dem party using race .BO and his thugs aren’t Dems, though they play one on TV but GOP opertives.
          To me Dean,Pelosi, Reid are simply bending over for Repugs yet again as they have been doing for years when they vigously cheat for BO. The Dems you see with Hillary , are real. Bo and those support him are always of the cave in part of the party , the “UHC is a non started” part.

      • kenoshaMarge

        Uppity,

        don’t you think that these Obamanation People and the Democratic Party truly believe that they can say and do anything thing because in the long run, libs will all come back home to defeat the evil Republicans?

        Regardless of the fact that many of us see and hear daily that libs just don’t hate John McCain. Many, like me, won’t vote for him but we don’t loathe him the way we loathed Bush. And some libs, too many for my comfort, seem to have swallowed the “straight-talking-maverick-war hero McCain” propaganda. I always have and always will respect John McCain’s service to this country. Doesn’t mean he deserves or should be president.

        Are Obamatrons as dumb as those who actually seem to believe that they can kick out all the older voters, the Hillary supporters and any others that haven’t had their “come to Obama” moment and build a new and better party with just the young?

        My question is does Air America and MSNBC and all the blogs in Left Blogostan that have consistently bashed us and our candidate believe we will toddle on back home and support Obama? Are they that clueless? Are they that blinded by the light? Cause don’t set a place for me at the table, I won’t be coming back home. I found a new home where democracy is respected, voters are allowed to have their votes counted, and integrity and honesty are important. And that just doesn’t happen on Air America anymore.

      • Nancy

        you mean you dont see all of the people on this blog are stepford wives- we get a world class leader like Obama, whose the voice for those making 10 dollar contributions and a backbone against the Bush War and all you can do is compare Obama with Limbaugh- you are all Karl Rove bots and you will live in your little brie and champagne fascism

        • pepe

          good luck with your obama…..

    • barbh

      I think in a lot of ways that they are worse then some that they criticize on the right. I can’t recall Limbaugh, et. al. ever calling Hillary or Ferraro a whore, except maybe Coulter.

      They have become what they so despise in so many ways, the actions are the same or worse, only which side of the aisle your on has changed. These people want to unite with the right wing? They can’t even unite within the dem party…

      • simon

        I can’t recall Limbaugh, et. al. ever calling Hillary or Ferraro a whore, except maybe Coulter.

        Both Limbaugh and McCain were stupidly bitter toward Chelsea.

        This, when she was a 12 year old child.

        Unforgivable.

        Period.

      • Nancy

        then why do you listen to Air America- none of the hosts support Hillary, because they, unlike you have done the research and know about the Glass Speigalmen Act, NAFTA, the War vote, the cluster bomb on children vote, the money from the Arabs, the 10 million for the library, the uranium deals with Bill and all the next 4 years would be about bills sex scandals, we’ve got a clean leader of the youth, not of old bags like y’all here- ya dummy Hillary lied right to your face about Nafta and the economy and here you are a working stiff about to vote to have it all happen again, not to mention the telecommunications act and the money from Murdoch for Hillary

        • pepe

          listen stupid, just vote for obama and be happy stop trashing hillary….low life

  • john567

    how about Ed Shultz’s rant on msnbc calling the former democratic president a lier for “misrepresenting” Obama’s record on the war. That was the last straw for me. I used to think was the best AARadio had untill he went nuts for Obama. If this video would get play it would destroy his pretentions of objectivity. This was during the SC race-baiting bullshit.

  • http://noratings.blogspot.com/ Bud White

    The Obama-Left has been abusive all over the place, from caucus sites to Web sites to “liberal” radio. It’s about time they toned down their rhetoric. I hope they all get this message.

  • bluesky

    This is beautiful! Randi Rhodes got what she deserves. Go C.S. Go Susan! I wrote several letters to Air America too. I guess of the hundreds of emails I’ve sent so far to the DNC, Pelosi, Leahy etc., the Air America emails may have had an impact.

    Power to the people.

  • anna shane

    it’s clear to anyone paying attention that the sexist nature of the campaign against Hillary is inciting real hate that has real consequences for real women, in particular anyone so brave as to try to enter forbidden male-power terrority. Those ‘threats’ of ‘civil war’ if Hillary wins are also incitement. I know George Bush made the ugly and nasty acceptable to the public, but taking advantage of this hopefully temporary ‘cover’ for hate speech is a big mistake. It’s time for Chris Matthew to go on enforced leave until the election is over, or longer. It’s time for Keith O to be transferred back to sports reporting and banned from talking politics. This sexist and hate inspiring speech is getting more and more ugly and just firing the very worst makes it clear that it’s all okay unless someone gets caught, which is more than wrong, it’s destructive. Until then great catch, thanks. This is the reason many of us won’t vote for Barack. He may be an okay guy but we can’t let someone profit from hate speech, or we’ll be just as guilty. We have kids dying in Iraq, and women being beaten and killed by men. Neither are okay.

    • simon

      This sexist and hate inspiring speech is getting more and more ugly and just firing the very worst makes it clear that it’s all okay unless someone gets caught, which is more than wrong, it’s destructive.

      Sexism, and hate are wrong, and we have laws, very strong laws, to prosecute those who abuse.

      Given that, if you want to play in a man’s world, you have to fight sometimes, fight to win, better, ethically, and stronger, and there is no avoiding the bitter boys.

      Most are quite wussy, anyway.

      I mean, look at the stupidity of an OJ Simpson, or a Dick Morris.

      Nothing worth having comes without some kind of fight, Clinton can do it, Obama cannot.

      He cheats, and he whines, he’s very run of the mill.

  • NagNancy

    WooHoo!!! Bye bye Randi…

    I also agree with Truthteller; Roland Martin should be next. Speaking of trashing troublemakers, check out this from TalkLeft:

    http://www.talkleft.com/story/2008/4/3/122945/9100

    Seems our Donna was the driving force behind preventing Mi and Fl votes from counting. Could she have been a hidden Obamabot even then? Hmmm. Rules state that penalties for Florida SHOULD be the loss of 50% of delegates. Donna pushed for 100% stripping of Florida’s delegates. Sorry if this is OT, but Brazile irritates me like a summer rash.

  • renodoyle

    I’m sorry but taking RR off the air is like cummuting a child molestors sentence. Leave her on to spew and hurl dreck, for everyone to observe. Proof of the fcuktardness that has become the standard of this so called “progressive” movement.

  • jwrjr

    No doubt Olbermann will have Rhodes on every day for a week or two so that he can complain how the evil Clinton supporters got this poor, sweet, innocent child unfairly suspended.(/sarcasm)

  • Dawnelle

    I got the same email reply when I voiced my opinion as well just now!

    Seems a LOT of us wrote in! YAY!!

  • Prabhata

    I used to listen to Rohdes until she began abusing her position against HRC. I’m happy she’s been suspended and hope she gets fired. Ed Schultz is not Air America, but I hope he loses enough listeners and radio stations stop transmitting his show.

  • ybnormal

    Randi, how will it feel to wake up tomorrow knowing you are virtually Ann Coulter?

    • http://hyper-educated-uppity-woman.blogspot.com Uppity

      All I can say is I thought she was smarter than this. She must have freaked when she saw herself go viral with her filthy mouth.

    • roy

      Ann Coulter should replace Randi right after the Michael Savage Show, then that will be the last straw for everyone, and we can blow up the planet in peace . Is that an oxymoronic statement or what.

  • velvet

    It’s the misogyny, stupid! (0+ / 0-)

    Yowsers- whores, monsters, beat the bitch, fake race-baiting (personally, my favorite). Oh, how the mighty left has fallen & donned the robes of the right.

    Gosh! I just can’t wait for that Hope & Change Train to get here!

    I’m already feeling a messiah-like glow of hopefulness right now, honestly.

    Pffffft.

    Randi. You know better.

    Absolute.power.corrupts.
    ——
    Thanks NQ for advocating that the left, which likes to pretend it is progressive, uphold some sort of linguistic standard beyond calling pioneering, pathbreaking women “whores.” That’s big of you. heh.

    I’m about to be an ex-Democrat. I really cannot take these people any more.

  • Nathan

    GOOGLE-”My life as co host with shock jock Perry Stone”
    Read entire article. Skanky Randi goes after Susie Austins job because she knew Perry Stone was making alot of money. What would Rhodes gay audience think of her when we post a video of Randi cackling at Perry Stones endless “Homo” jokes.
    WHO’S THE WHORE NOW-RANDI?

    • pepe

      you got it…hope she is finished

  • Nicole

    Listening to her made me feel sick–and I’m no prude, by any means. The only “whore” is Randi Rhodes. Frankly, I don’t think it’s enough: AAmerica should fire her ass.

    • pepe

      agree 100%….stupic low life

  • john567

    I bought xm Radios just to get some progressive talk radio in West MI. RR was always the hardest to listen to because she would take a subject that the truth alone would do and spin it with imbellishments that were not factual. I consider that to be Rush’s shtick. My wife couldn’t stand to listen to her. And that childish theme song “Bounce Your Boobies” every day was over the top. I figuired that she was promoting something about her own physic that she was proud of.

  • Dave F

    I used to respect the people on this site. You are so worng about this. You do not drive people out because you disagree with them. You do not knee cap people who you agree with in general but disagree with in specifics. You engage them. You berate them. But you do not destroy them.

    You have successfully silenced a voice that you probably agree with 90% of the time because she was way out of line the other 10% of the time. May I introduce you to your nose and a sharp knife

    You should all grow up and know who the real enemy is. You fools.

    DAF

    • Nicole

      Hmmm, what is it about Randi that you find so compelling? I don’t see it. “We” did the right thing, by smacking down an abusive, hateful “voice”…someone, it would seem, who doesn’t have the smarts or good judgment to have her own show on the radio. What she said–in public, I might add, to an audience–is far worse than what Imus said. To call Ferraro a fucking whore, and then to compare her to David Duke (she isn’t even original, clearly cribbing from Keith Obamaman)…and then to further incite the crowd by calling Hillary the same, makes her the Ann Coulter of the left, but worse, since she’s attacking decent, hardworking, brilliant Democrats.

      By the way, “we” haven’t silenced her…she’s free to start a blog any time she wishes–a place where she can rant all she likes.

      • Dave F

        Regarding RR as “compelling” …
        … I never said I found her compelling.

        Regarding did the “right thing” …
        … How exactly did your actions get a Democratic president and serious majorities in Congress get advanced by your childish action?

        Regarding RR’s lack of “good judgement” …
        … couldn’t agree with you more. What she said was stupid. Say that in public instead of sneeking around your silly blogs and shooting from the shadows. Stop being a coward.

        Regarding “silenced” …
        … I seriously doubt that she will be silenced. Malloy wasn’t. There is always going to be audience for non-Milquetoast comment. You didn’t do anything.

        Regarding “she’s free to start a blog”…
        … That’s rich. I seriously doubt that she would stoop so low as to become some pathetic blogger.

        DAF

        • Nicole

          Sorry, DAF, but I don’t understand most of your replies to my comments–they don’t make sense. Particularly your second point. And your final response is stunning–you find bloggers pathetic? That’s a ridiculous comment. Anyway, since you don’t like it here, I suggest you go away.

          • Dave F

            I’m sorry too. Sorry I got into this at all. I’ll try to make my points a bit clearer.

            1)Getting people you disagree with fired does not advance the goal of getting Democrats elected.

            2) We should always stay civil and RR was wrong and deserved to be reprimanded

            3) RR will probably be back on the air, possibly not with AAR, but somebody will pick her up because she make’s money.

            4) Bloggers have far to big a head these days and the majority are pathetic. See truthtellers and renodoyle’s insights for example.

            DAF

            • Karen

              She was not fired….she is suspended.
              A pretty fair punishment. She is not getting anyone elected, she has become so
              partisian, she is driving many Hillary supporters away. She was representing AAR
              in San Francisco, I don’t know any company that would not react this way or have the
              right to.

        • truthteller2007

          Stupid Obamabot, politics are not for kids.

          • Dave F

            Hope you enjoy the McCain administration.

            By the way, I wrote in Gore.

            DAF

      • pepe

        not only that but she things she is hot…believe me I ‘ve seen her she is farrrrr from hot…maybe 25 years ago…maybe…now only after 2 bottles of vodka..maybe……we should buy her a vibrator, so she could calm down and stop going crazy against hillary

    • Karen

      DAF…..this comment below is from AAR and they are spot on. They pay her salary and they have people who are for both candidates listening and this type of conduct affects their finances. She can say what she wants but we need to get back to have some standards of decency in this country. If Obama had been called something the same thing would be expected. There is no free speech when a company is paying your salary.

      “Air America has suspended on-air host Randi Rhodes for making inappropriate statements about prominent figures, including Senator Hillary Clinton, at a recent public appearance on behalf of Air America in San Francisco which was sponsored by an Air America affiliate station.

      “Air America encourages strong opinions about public affairs but does not condone such abusive, ad hominem language by our Hosts,” said chair Charlie Kirek

      • Dave F

        Regarding AAR position …
        … AAR is free to run their business anyway they like (within the law). Recall that this is the same brain trust that had popular vehicles (Malloy and Morning Sedition) and scuttled them. Don’t put too much stock in Charlie and the rest of his clowns on AAR’s board. The issue is not RR’s conduct, or AAR’s conduct. It is your conduct that I questioned.

        Know the enemy – those who would place people, societies and nations in harm’s way in order to advance their own pathetic lust for power.

        Again, grow up.

        DAF

        • truthteller2007

          Randi Rhodes is just the first of many more to fall.

          • http://noquarterusa.net/ SusanUnPC

            The host’s name … Mark _____ . Trying to remember his last name. I loved his kind of humor. That documentary about AAR showed him to be a bit neurotic, but on air he was so funny.

            • Dave F

              Marrin, Mark Marrin. I still dig out the last show every once in a while. Breaks my heart that it’s gone.

              By the way Susan, what do you think Larry would think about all this nonsence?

              DAF

              • http://noquarterusa.net/ SusanUnPC

                What is the link to his last show’s audio? And what is he doing these days? I used to be on his mailing list. Ah, here’s his site, and he still has that mailing list. I will sign up again:

                http://www.marcmaron.com

                – he has a link to the streams from “Seditionist Radio”

                Still exploring his site / not sure what he’s up to. Maybe standup?

                • Dave F

                  I have a copy in my personal collection. If you like I’ll send it to you.

                  By the way, I didn’t think I was going to start such a shit storm by simply pointing out that the more Democrats snipe at each other the more likely we will get slapped around this fall. I personally don’t care if it is Obama or Hillary. I simply want everyone, including RR, attacking McCain.

                  Sorry about that clogging up the space. Some of the commenters, although off base, were reasonable, but how do you deal with the intellectually impaired?

                  I’ll still check in for a few days, but I’m going to use my first ammendment rights to turn this drivel off.

                  So long and thanks for all the fish.

                  DAF

        • http://noquarterusa.net/ SusanUnPC

          I loved MORNING SEDITION. Loved it. I couldn’t believe they got rid of it.

          • MM

            Marc Maron is the best! He does a show now every Tuesday by video with Sam Seder.

            It’s good but I think they support Obama.

    • JoeySky

      This is scary. Where do we draw the line between free speech and abusive
      words. So with your standard, someone can call you a p**p or a w****e and you should be ok with that. It’s free speech.

      For Obama supporters the line of free speech has been drawn unfairly. Anything for Obama is free speech. Anything against Obama is abusive words.

      Wright is free speech. Randi is free speech. Ferraro is abusive words.

      • Mary

        Randi Rhodes signed a contract with Air America, and she knew the rules for the paycheck.

        Choices have consequences.

        Her trash mouth is why C-Span no longer invites her on their morning show, either.

        Randi only has “free speech” as it is defined within her CONTRACT with Air America.

        She is their employee, period.

        • Dave F

          I don’t happen to have a copy of her CONTRACT. Could you forward a copy to the list so we can all see it?

          DAF

      • Dave F

        You seem to miss the point. There is no line. Obama or Clinton (actually their rather immature supporters) have every right to say what they want. Nobody gets a free ride because it is our responsibility to call people on their vitriol (like I’m trying to do here). Ferraro is no different than Wright in this respect. They were both free to say what they did and both were very wrong.

        Once again – know the real enemy and stay on target.

        DAF

    • Marco

      Daf,

      Tell it to Ferraro.

      • Dave F

        I did Marco.

        DAF

        • simon

          You think Rhodes angry tirade is equal to Ferraro’s observation?

          Really?

          Wow.

          Can you tell me why, specifically, other than the general “free speech” template?

          This has to do with content, hate content.

          Ferraros’ was not a deliberate attempt to stir up resentment and hate against Obama, Rhodes was psychologically creating a hateful us v them meme, much like Rush, the use of the bully pulpit to influence the public, emotionally, without thought, pushing them to irrational HATE against a candidate, hate in the name of PR astroturf.

          Do you see the difference?

          Worked well for the republicans, too, didn’t it?

          Jeez, it’s as if they, and their trolls are in a continuous time loop, unable to progress, simply circling the drain with specious thought skills.

      • Marco

        I think comments are appearing out of order or I just missed yours referencing Ferraro. Apologies, but anyhoot…

        I agree we’re all free to say what we want, but obviously you’re also free to voice your displeasure as some Democrats and AA listeners did in regards to Rhodes and her ass-backward comments.

        • Dave F

          Actually it wasn’t here. I sent a note after she made her second batch of stupid comments (I mistakenly thought the first batch were an honest mistake) to her personally through the Clinton campaign.

          By the way, there is a world outside this blog.

          DAF

          • Hope

            Yes we are aware of that Dave. So if you don’t mind – follow the arrow towards the universe you just came from and hit the road baby!

    • barbh

      Oh my we are kneecappers are we?

      I suppose RR calling Hillary and/or G. Ferarro “whores” is, playing nice no doubt or perhaps they deserve that kind of vitriol for being loyal members of the Democratic party for years and fighting for the rights of people of color and women, and other progressive values before the word because cool.

      She went WAY, WAY over the line on this one. She totally jumped the shark. I guess she just wants to be one of the “BOYZ”.

      She is accountable as an employee of Air America and at an event representing Air America. I don’t think she should be suspended, I think she should be fired.

      • Dave F

        Regarding you being kneecapper…
        … Yes, yes you are. If I were to call you on your actions by seeking out your employer and requesting that you be fired, I too would be acting as childishly as you. However, I am simply attempting to point out to the children on this list that they need to grow up. Stop forming a circular firing squad and killing our chances in November.

        Regarding “RR calling…”…
        … you supposition is incorrect. RR was wrong.

        DAF

        DAF

        • alexei

          My question, did you write Obama about when he called for Don Imus’ firing? (of course in the Obama manner). Did you write Obama about Wright?

          Just asking.

          • Dave F

            Nope, Imus is a bigot and deserved it. RR was just stupid.

            DAF

            • WMCB

              So….racist comments are reprehensible and worthy of public condemnation and firing, but sexist slurs are a lesser offense, so we ought not to get our panties in a wad over those.

              Gotcha.

              • Dave F

                I don’t consider her comments sexist. You got squat pal.

                DAF

                • yttik

                  Wow, if calling women whores isn’t sexist, I don’t know what is.

                  There’s quite a few women in the current administration that I don’t think highly of, but I would never condone referring to any of them as whores.

                  RR should have been suspended. Her comments were offensive to all women.

                • WMCB

                  Then you are completely uneducated regarding the history of sexism, and wrong.

                • C.S.

                  Dave, that says more about you than you probably want to admit. Sorry, but her comments reinforce sexism no different than when white folks point to black comedians as justification of their use of the Nword.

                • lifelong dem leaving party

                  dickless….. not sexist? works both ways, pal.

        • Karen

          Why don’t you tell Randi to stop killing our chances too.

        • simon

          If I were to call you on your actions by seeking out your employer and requesting that you be fired, I too would be acting as childishly as you.

          Nonsense.

          A civilized society has standards of behavior we must all respect, mores that must be honored, a civil code that must be adhered to enable functioning.

          Otherwise we all fall victim to the bitter boys, ahem, we hear on the radio, the angry white men, about 50 pounds overweight, wearing Hawaiian shirts, consumed with toad rage, or road rage, growing ugly little pretentious goatees while, like you, they seek to justify fearful, terrified bullying in the name of the first amendment, and freedom.

          Your arguments are specious garbage, but you are free to make them.

          And I am free to call them out for the disingenuous trash they are, dave.

          • roy

            Reading all this drivel is why I now listen to Opie and Anthony in the morning. The country can be taken over buy the Chinese now, thank you.

    • chris

      Ignorance is the Real Enemy.
      You just engaged in a whopping heap of it.

  • VMorris

    DAF–Had Randi been engaged in a meaningful and constructive dialog I would agree. The incident that outraged so many was not that. It was a vitriolic screed and personal attack on Hillary and Geraldine.

    AAR is seriously in danger of becoming the left wing version of Limbaugh and Coulter. Is this what AAR listeners want?

    The answer to that question from this ex-AAR fan is a resounding NO!!!

    • Dave F

      Regarding AAR becoming “the left wing verion of Limbaugh…”…

      … That is not for you to decide. That is for AAR to decide. You can choose to agree or disagree with their direction. You are free to express your displeasure, as you have (being an ex-listener). That is the proper response, not the one that this list executed.

      DAF

      • sajo

        Dave, you have to understand the Freeper mentality on this site. Let someone not behave to their liking and they descend like fire ants on the subject.
        It’s not the vulgarity they complain about, there is plenty of, or too much vulgarity expressed here.
        It is about who was the target of vulgarity.
        If RR talked about Michelle Obama, you wouldn’t see complaints about vulgarity.

        The people here are like a right-wing front organization, using the same tactics. Spam the management, spam the sponsors.

        I don’t defend RR’s language, but she didn’t say things on the air, but in a night-club like atmosphere where her words would be standard.

        • Dave F

          Thanks for the heads up Sajo. I must admit that I haven’t spent much time in the coment’s section. I typically enjoy Susan and Larry and leave it at that. My mistake.

          DAF

          • sajo

            Yeah…unfortunately Larry has transitioned too, beyond reality.
            He used to be analytical before…

            • renodoyle

              Dear Sajo:

              Larry’s “transformation” is anologous to a condition you would experience if you were sucked into the vacum of space. The perception of the earth’s movement away from you is in fact you traveling at light speed toward a condition of utter idiotcy.

        • WMCB

          Bull. If a prominent Hillary supporter who was a media mouthpiece publicly got up on stage in a club and said: “Michelle Obama is a fucking whore! Barack Obama is a fucking pimp!” the outrage and screams for summary dismissal would be deafening, and you know it.

          • chris

            duplicity is their greatest asset. They don’t have to have ethics, everyone else does. this is one of the keys to exposing what is wrong with Obama’s base. They are no different than Scientologists, Moonies, Amways, and other cults. Reasoning is not in their scope and they love to shout you down.

            I won’t support racism or sexism by standing by. Fuck Randi Rhodes she doesn’t have a permanent place on the air by any right. She popped her Freedom of Speech off, and the Freedom of Speech of others was exercised too. She should have thought about that before calling other women, who’ve done a lot more than she has for us, “fucking whores”.

  • truthteller2007

    Taylor Marsh is exactly what we need on AM radio. Hire Taylor Marsh, and perhaps the ratings of Air America will increase.

  • renodoyle

    Dear DAF:

    When I “grow up” can I call your mother,sister, wife a “fucking whore”? And if she is a sitting senator and former first lady or an honored figure of the Democratic cause can I call her a “fucking whore” and myself a “grownup”?

    • Dave F

      Regarding your comments on my family…
      … Yes, yes you can refer to may family anyway you like. You are also free to call others names. However, if you were to do that, you would be just as stupid as RR. Is that the case?

      Hope you enjoy the McCain administration renodoyle.

      DAF

      • chris

        Is that the level of your political accumen, to resort to “enjoy the McCain administration”? This is base level politics at best. This is how the Democrats treated Nader supporters after 2000, and you haven’t yet realized that it makes your Party smaller and smaller. Its the strategy of the idiot pundit.

        If you don’t start winning over voters, You can thank Yourself for an administration you don’t like.

        Go enjoy that Bamaglow, i hear its better than oxygen

        • MJbos

          Yup. Just like all political parties are being divided up and shrinking.

          The loony righties are freaking out about McCain and will not come out enmasse for him.

          I see the same thing happening on the Democratic side – although for us it started a while ago.

          DLC.

          Times like these really make me long for having a parlimentary system. Instead of dividing “mass appeal” parties, force all of the smaller groups to work together in coalitions to gain a majority. Interesting things can happen when people have to work together to gain a majority.

          MJbos
          (40, but with a glimmer of idealism left)

  • Nelsons

    It’s going to be interesting to see what happens at the NonStop Radio Symposium August 1-3, in
    Madison, Wisconsin. The symposium is billed as a way to “forge a national community of Progressive Radio activists.” As it stands now, I plan to attend.

    https://www.regonline.com/builder/site/tab1.aspx?EventID=163488

  • ginaswo

    thank you thank you!
    woo hoo Rhodes needs some time off LOTS and LOTS of time off she is over the edge
    Thank you for kudos to Taylor Marsh! I have been writing SIRI and XM for months asking the to pick up her show!!

  • Lin

    You guys are awesome. I don’t want Randi’s head on a platter, but she needed to be called out on this.

    Thanks!

    And a big shout to Taylor Marsh!!

  • Kefa

    There is a line and she crossed it. Nuff said.

    • Hope

      Either that or she’s snorting the lines.

  • lifelong dem leaving party

    suspended? why not fired? suspension isn’t enough.

  • troy m

    You gotta consider the source. This, all from a woman that got so sloppy drunk you couldn’t decide whether she got mugged or FUBAR’d from a fall.

  • renodoyle

    Dear NAF:

    Be assured that if someone DID call a female member of YOUR family a “fucking whore” I would be obliged to kick thier ass while you sit idly by working on your needle point pillow of “The Messiah”.

    You confuse “freedom of speech” with fighting words. By contrast you actually DO render a McCain administration a more noble proposition.
    _

    • Hope

      lol

    • chris

      Chaplinky v New Hampshire….yep, doubt he’d understand the implications of “fighting words” and freedom of speech. Perhaps he should do some background research on it.

      I disagree with the “fighting words” decisions over the last 60 years, but not in isolation. I believe you shouldn’t be punished with assault if someone calls your wife a “whore” or “bitch” either. I live in Texas, and you know the reputation of Texas when it comes to fightin words.

      The good part of this decision is that, since I can’t knock the fuck out of you for calling my mother, my wife, or my daughter this word…you can’t engage in it and be protected under “freedom of speech”. In fact you can be charged with distrubing the peace for this because it doesn’t rise to the level of useful rhetoric.

      But if you go out and say, “Fuck this War” or “Bush needs to be fucking locked up for life”, you are actually protected. Cohen v. was decided based on his shirt saying, “Fuck The Draft”.

      His rights were up held.

      Chaplinskly simply said, “you’re a bunch of goddamn fascists”. He was not protected.

      Fuck vs. Goddamn Fascists – You Decide.

  • Hope

    She’s not worthy of our attention. We should all dismiss this infectious cow from our minds. Making her the topic of our discussion is beneath us.

    I’ve sent an email to Air America asking them to rid themselves of this embarrassment.

    She should be sued for slander or libel or just plain being a drunken, public nuisance.

    • renodoyle

      Actually the better course is to leave her in front of a microphone where she will proceed with this bucoli jabbering and spare us the boorish labor of proving what has become of thees so called “progressives”.

      • Hope

        She’s a narcissist. I’ll never forget her rantings regarding her hysterectomy. Who in the world goes on and on about something that personal on the radio?

        Imagine if we all went on radio talking about our bowel movements, our menstrual flow, our snotty noses and gas? And this is her level of discourse! And she really believes she’s a genius. She actually believes she’s the most articulate, inspiring person on air.

        She has no manners, no finesse, no respectability, no class, no nada!

      • Hope

        Yeah keep her in the circus where she belongs – with a microphone.

  • TeakwoodKite

    DAF
    You do not knee cap people who you agree with in general but disagree with in specifics. What is the difference? If I say re-vote and you de-vote? Pooh love his honey but Eyore says “Oh Bother!”

    First the use of words “Knee capped“…Just who is getting knee capped? I suggest it would be the truth, justice and the American way that is getting crippled and many many people are fed up with

    May I introduce you to your nose and a sharp knife Oh I get it like this?

    The old grey donkey, Eeyore stood by himself in a thistly corner of the Forest, his front feet well apart, his head on one side, and thought about things. Sometimes he thought sadly to himself, “Why?” and sometimes he thought, “Wherefore?” and sometimes he thought, “Inasmuch as which?” and sometimes he didn’t quite know what he was thinking about.

    http://www.eeyoreshideaway.com/eeyore/quotes/

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  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2nXYHvbFl3A Soundtracking

    Hey guys, I have another version of the video here. Comments are enable, unlike the other one shown above. This needs to be discussed to stop the foul play.
    See below for the link.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2nXYHvbFl3A

  • Chris

    Do you remember the video we posted on April 1 — in which Randy Rhodes called both Geraldine Ferraro and Hillary Clinton “whores”? The YouTube that our video whiz C.S. created from an ordinarily non-transferrable source, and posted at YouTube? (It’s below the fold for those who missed it.)

    You mean when you infringed on the copyright of Green960′s event footage and duplicated/edited it without consent?

    Yeah, I do remember that!

    • chris

      Sorry, you don’t understand what you are talking about. Copyright does not apply to fair use provision when covering news. They published it, its out there and it becomes news worthy.

      Go to your local journalism class and do your homework.

    • chris

      “Fair use is a doctrine in United States copyright law that allows limited use of copyrighted material without requiring permission from the rights holders, such as use for scholarship or review. It provides for the legal, non-licensed citation or incorporation of copyrighted material in another author’s work under a four-factor balancing test. It is based on free speech rights provided by the First Amendment to the United States Constitution. The term “fair use” is unique to the United States; a similar principle, fair dealing, exists in some other common law jurisdictions. Civil law jurisdictions have other limitations and exceptions to copyright.”

      • C.S.

        Yes, this is correct. Students of journalism should know this, but do you expect the people who comment on blogs to know the basics of journalism or “fair use” rulings?

        Media clips used for legitimate news purposes are not protected by copyrights. This has been upheld by the Supreme Court.

        Stanford
        The four factors judges consider are:
        1. the purpose and character of your use
        2. the nature of the copyrighted work
        3. the amount and substantiality of the portion taken
        4. the effect of the use upon the potential market.

        _____
        Universal City Studios v. Sony Corp., 464 U.S. 417 (1984

        • chris

          “do you expect the people who comment on blogs to know the basics of journalism or “fair use” rulings?”

          Yes, I do expect it…when the spout off about it.

          Chris (big C) above spouted:
          “You mean when you infringed on the copyright of Green960’s event footage and duplicated/edited it without consent”

          I believe this has been covered in fair use cases. Hasn’t it? I remember a station being sued for airing footage we all saw related to legitimate news because a company wanted to make money on the footage. This is bullshit.

          If this thought were carried to its farthest extent, we’d have a lot less news than we do now on 24 hr cycle because many news services would be in court battling for footage because of money opportunists who want to put their profits above journalism. The First Amendment clause regarding Freedom of the Press wasn’t intended to be Freedom of Private Entities To Play Guardian Over Footage of NewsWorthy Events.

          • TeakWoodKite

            So does A tv station say Msnbc have to pay reverend Wright royalties every time they air “God Damn America?” video?

            I don’t think so.

            Freedom of Private Entities To Play Guardian Over Footage of NewsWorthy Events.
            well put.

          • Chris

            Hey, where’d the video go? Taken down? But you said…

            • chris

              It is still protected by Fair Use, don’t spew your pants too quick genius. Pay attention. This is going to get better.

              YouTube will not act as arbitrator. They will follow any request first then follow with “counterclaim” provisions.

              Do you have any practical experience in Copyright cases? Cuz I do. So pay attention and keep your back straight, don’t slump.

            • chris

              Read this over skippy before you yap again.
              http://www.copyright.cornell.edu/policy/Fair_Use_Checklist.pdf

              http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/107.shtml

              http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/107.shtml

              Notwithstanding the provisions of sections 106 and 106A, the fair use of a copyrighted work, including such use by reproduction in copies or phonorecords or by any other means specified by that section, for purposes such as criticism, comment, news reporting, teaching (including multiple copies for classroom use), scholarship, or research, is not an infringement of copyright. In determining whether the use made of a work in any particular case is a fair use the factors to be considered shall include—
              (1) the purpose and character of the use, including whether such use is of a commercial nature or is for nonprofit educational purposes;
              (2) the nature of the copyrighted work;
              (3) the amount and substantiality of the portion used in relation to the copyrighted work as a whole; and
              (4) the effect of the use upon the potential market for or value of the copyrighted work.
              The fact that a work is unpublished shall not itself bar a finding of fair use if such finding is made upon consideration of all the above factors.

              • C.S.

                look, chris don’t argue with Chris, he doesn’t understand copyright he’s just baiting you. He’s less concerned with Randi Rhodes calling women “whores” than mocking you. Don’t take the bait.

                And good links on “Fair Use”

                Los Angeles News Service v. CBS Broadcasting, 2002

                is a good case to consider

                • TeakWoodKite

                  That was wierd, Thanks forthe help C.S. and chris…I thought chris was talking to himself.

  • http://www.reflectivepundit.com Brigitte N.

    Congratulation–I am so satisfied that this can be accomplished–still–in the corporate media dominance and tabloid mass-blog culture of our time.

  • Karen

    You all need to stop blaming the messenger.
    Randi made her choice and if there are
    consequences, she needs to deal with them.
    It is always amazing in this society when
    people do disgusting things they then go
    blame the person that caught them at it.
    Randi is always talking about people needing
    to take responsibility for what they say.
    She has gone after politicians
    constantly on this, now that shoe is on
    the other foot, let’s see what she does. Will
    she complain she was a victim, make excuses or apologize.

    • C.S.

      Thank you. I keep having people make comments to me via YouTube that really reveal who they are and what motivates them. They try to make it about me, but I’m just posting clips as they aired.

  • RJ in California

    Randi should be FIRED!

    She’s WORESE than Don Imus every was,
    and she thinks she can Lie to the point of Ad nauseam.

    Imus was an off the wall statement,
    but Randi’s statements are a well thought reprobate belief system.

  • Cp

    What is happening in the media now is very hurtful. I am an independant that has voted republican in the past several elections. Yes I regret Bush and I think Clinton was a pretty good president. I have switched to become a Hillary supporter. This typical white woman is angry. I am angry at the media. I am angry at the double standards. I hope I am not the only woman who is angry about all this bs. If I have anything to do with it the media’s golden child will never win the nomination. Go Ferraro! Stand up to the bs put out by the Obama campaign. After all this I think women in whichever party should be very angry at the way Hillary has been treated. Ms Rhodes is not a woman she’s a drag queen! Obama is just as dirty a politician as any.

  • Chris

    Go to your local journalism class and do your homework.

    I’d rather not attend any journalism class that considers her stand-up act “newsworthy”.

    • chris

      you’d rather not attend a journalism class that can show you how her comments are newsworthy because she isn’t a “stand up” comedian…she’s a radio show host. You go ahead and live in your illusions, Chris.

      I suppose it wasn’t Newsworthy when Michael Richards went off on his Racist tyrade either.

      But your post is great, it demonstrates you don’t understand what is “newsworthy” in the first place. Good job, you do my work for me. Great work!

  • rwc

    Considering that Obamabots are vilifying Hillary and her supporters across the blogo-sphere it shouldn’t surprise me.

    Still good riddance to a Ann Coulter wannabe.

    Its sickening though that a portion of the Democratic party – namely the far left is becoming just like the GOP. Associating with bigoted and hate mongering reverends, engaging in Rovian style smears against a fellow Democrat, liberal talk radio show host practicing gutter partisanship that would make Limbaugh stutter in amazement.

    They’ve become everything they supposedly despised.

  • Tea

    What happens to the brains of people who support Obama? Their brains seem to turn to vulgar mush. No class at all.

  • jwrjr

    I just saw something for which ‘disgusting’ only begins to describe it. In the comments following the story about Rhodes on a different blog (C&L), some of the commenters are saying that Rhodes’ comments are ‘just freedom of speech’.

    • chris

      Yes, I bet there are some Klan members who say that about Hal Turner. I’m getting sick of the double standards around these issues.

  • VMorris

    Has courtesy to others and decency and respectful disagreement in this country disappeared or is it just on Talk Radio, TV and the Internet?

    Hey, if Randi, Ed, Rachel and the powers that be at Air America want to drive Obama to his inauguration wearing his T-shirts and cheering him on with Barack Obama Pom Poms that’s OK fine by me.

    But stooping to calling those we don’t support the worst possible names and calling that
    “stand-up humor”…why? Probably because is takes fewer brain cells to spew profanity cloaked as humor than it does to come up with something that is really funny that doesn’t require profanity to get a laugh.

    I don’t see one iota of a difference between Imus and Randi. I’ll go as far as to say there was less intended malevolence in Imus when he made with his off the cuff, unthinking remark. Randi actually thought of this ahead of time and incorporated it into her act!

    And, as a woman, I deplore sexism and loathe it even more when one woman engages in sexism against another. What is with that? Some kind of narcissistic belief that you are somehow morally superior than the women you are calling a “F***ing Wh***?”

    For you guys and gals who get your jollies calling women bitches, here’s a flash: Many women I know, myself included, have learned to love and embrace our inner bitchiness so we wear the B-title as a badge of honor. To quote Vera Donavan from the movie Dolores Clairborne, “Sometimes being a bitch is all a woman has to hold onto.”

    So, sticks and stones may break my bones, but I still have the right to vote and I will vote for Senator Hillary Clinton in November even if I have to write in her name.

    “God, grant me the serenity
    to accept the things I cannot change;
    the courage to change the things I can;
    and the wisdom to know the difference.”

    I cannot change the attitude of others. I cannot change the fact that Randi has only been suspended and will probably be back in a few days after a mild slap on her wrist.

    And…I cannot change the way so many feel justified in hiding behind the skirts of “Free Speech” so they can freely and gleefully engage in Hate Speak.

    But I can and I have changed the dial on my radio.

    Goodnight Mouse and Goodnight Moon! Goodnight all you Randi Rhodes fans!

    And Goodnight Air Obama Radio!!!

    • Steven

      Please don’t lump Rachel into this discussion. Rachel Maddow has been nothing but objective since the beginning of this campaign. In fact, her only criticism lately has been of *both* of them, for fighting each other rather than going after John McCain. If Randi is the voice of hyperbole, Rachel is by far Air America’s voice of reason.

      • chris

        The idea that you find Maddow ‘objective’ says everything about the rest of your comments on these topics. Not much left to say about your views after such a comment. Enjoy your Air America before it finally tanks off the air.

      • apishapa

        I’ve heard Rachel Maddow on MSNBC, and she has not been a “voice of reason”. She derides anything positive anyone says about Hillary Clinton and wears her Obamadoration for everyone to see. I used to watch Rachel Maddow and I thought she was pretty good, but then she crossed over into Obamalove and bagan promoting Obama and dissing Hillary every time she got a shot.

        She is why I stopped watching Abrams’ phony “I’m so fair” show along with KO. Neither ever has a pro-Hillary Democrat on his show to present a fair discussion. I know there are Democrats who support Clinton and to pretend you just can’t find an articulate Democrat who doesn’t hate Hillary is just a lie.

        When Buchanan and Tony effing Blankely are the most reasonable people on a show, it is time to change channels.

        So, maybe Maddow has made an effort recently to change her tune, but when I stoppped watching MSNBC a month or two ago, she was a raging Obamabot.

  • llilytoo

    What I find shocking is learning Air America is owned by Clear Channel! Clear Channel is hyper right wing media, it’s the media company Mitt Romney almost bought! So the idea that Air America is in any way ” progressive” is bogus.
    This explains the hysterial Bambie rants that go over to mental illness.The right wing wants Obama to be the Dem nominee in the fall very badly …..will anyone look into why?

    • sajo

      Clear Channel owns stations that make money for them. And Air American is not a Right-Wing Front Organization.

      The real right wing is in Sen. Clinton’s corner, such as Rush Limbaugh who ordered his listeners by the tens of thousands to vote for Clinton in Ohio and Texas, and according to the Clinton Campaign Fox news is the only fair and balanced, BECAUSE THE RIGHT WING WANTS MRS. CLINTON TO BE THE NOMINEE

      Ask Limbaugh, Pat Buchanan, Ari Fleisher, Gingrich, etc. They all believe that running against Clinton will unite and mobilize the Republicans to victory.

      • chris

        Quick Note: Air America is owned primarily by Green Family Media.

        And Sajo, your analysis skills are rather pedestrian. You fall for the obvious, and as a kid who used to practice magic, I would have loved to have you in my audience because you fall for misdirection real easy.

        (left hand turns away with your basic animal instincts following it…while the right hand picks your pocket)

      • Steven

        Sajo — your thoughts aren’t “pedestrian” at all. There are at least 10 volumes of Anti-Clinton tactics on the shelf at the RNC. Obama is a bit more elusive and they haven’t figured out exactly how to pierce his armor yet. Of course they’d rather pick the easy fight.

        However, Rush apparently wasn’t as influential as he thought he’d be, since Obama ended up winning Texas after all. Let’s not let his OxyContin-soaked head get any bigger than it already is. :)

        Oh, and who admits to “practicing magic” as a kid? Someone’s residual wedgie is just a little too tight.

        • chris

          how passive aggressive of you.

          You obviously don’t understand misdirection either. Its been amusing to watch people really believe Coulter would vote for Clinton. Its been even more amusing to believe Limbaugh wanted to have people vote for Clinton because they really see her as the weaker candidate.

          Pay attention: Fox News tonight reported that the GOP are very upbeat about facing Obama. And I’m going to laugh in November when you find out how Rove really works. I’d think you’d have learned his playbook after 8 years, but obviously not. And this is why I called Sajo a pedestrian thinker on the topic. Its easy to follow a headline, much easier than actually paying attention.

          Steven, you flatter yourself.

          • simon

            Deep in my heart, somewhere, I think Rush would not be adverse to a Clinton win.

            Don’t’ ask me why.

            • chris

              hmmm…same reason that if she wins I will be out of my job to “imitate” the president?

              If Barack Obama wins I have a gig for 4 years…I’ve been imitating Bush for 8, and started with Reagan, Bush I, and only really got Bill C’s voice down about 2 years ago (by accident, trying to imitate Pat Robertson’s call to assassinate Chavez).

              If Hillary becomes president or if Obama becomes president, Limbaugh will have a hatefest regardless. I believe the applauding is a lame attempt at lame brains to use ‘reverse-psychology’ on them. And it seems to work. I actually hear Obamaniacs say, “well Hillary is supported by Ann Coulter and Limbaugh”…..amazing

      • llilytoo

        Air America is a front. It’s only allowed to continue because it’s currently useful to wreck the Dem party. If the Right wing wanted Clinton , the whole MSM would be at least fair….but as we see the MSM is working like ferrets in heat to get her out. Does it make sense to you that the MSM and the supposed progressive media are as one?

        The right wing want’s BO as the nominee and if they get thier wish, you will be hearing “god damn america” from every street corner. Enjoy

  • residentcynic

    DAF wrote:

    Regarding “she’s free to start a blog”…
    … That’s rich. I seriously doubt that she would stoop so low as to become some pathetic blogger.

    Randi is already pathetic without having to stoop at all. She’s a failed, unfunny, washed up drunk and has no business trashing accomplished, intelligent woman who have used the space they take up on this planet to make it a better place for generations to come. Randi just takes up space.

    The only things she knows how to do well are swear, drink booze and spew vitriol. I don’t consider Randi a Bi***, Wh*** or C***. But if she wants to meet a F***ing Drunk, all she has to do is look into a mirror.

  • Steven

    This was not a radio broadcast on the public airwaves– it was a stand-up routine at a small private event, so the Imus comparisons are unfair.

    Randi can be abrasive at times, but she’s one of the only hosts that talks about complicated issues, like the fact that the current administration doesn’t represent real conservatism. She has well-respected guests like John Dean and Jonathan Turley. And most of all, she always encourages her listeners to believe nothing that they hear on radio and to check all the facts for themselves.

    If Rush or Hannity’s listeners did that, they’d realize that they’re listening to scripted comedy shows that aren’t generally based in fact.

    The good news is that it’s heart-warming to see how concerned the conservative right is with Hillary and Geraldine and their feelings. We’re making progress after all.

    • chris

      complete garbage. If Hannity went off calling them “whores” or calling Michelle Obama a “whore” you’d be all over it, so don’t play duplicitous games here. And right wing hosts have also had respectable guests. You make some serious logical leaps here.

      Excuses coming from Rhodes supporters are quite telling about how sexism is so excusable, especially the “well it was a woman saying it” crap. Nonsense.

      • Steven

        If Randi said it on the air, I would agree with you. However, if Hannity was doing a standup gig in front of a few hundred fans, and he said some nasty things about the people that righties don’t like, like Ted Kennedy, for instance, I don’t think I’d be bothered by it because private engagements are different from the public airwaves. It’s common for people to make fun of “the common enemy” when they’re in a room full of like-minded people. That’s how John McCain got away with making his Chelsea Clinton joke.

        We live in polarized times where people say hyperbolic things. Randi didn’t pollute the public airwaves with profanity, and there were no children present at the event. Behind closed doors, I think a person should be able to say whatever they want to. Air America did what they had to do because she was representing them. If I was speaking in public at an event paid for by my employer and I said things like that, I’d probably get suspended too.

        Also, I encourage everyone to go back and look at Ferraro’s “Obama is lucky that he’s black” comments. Although I don’t personally care what she says, since her political career is over, I can understand the reason for Randi’s frustration with her, and why she would want to make a callous joke in her comedy routine about the subject that everyone in the audience had heard her discuss on the radio.

        P.S. If Hannity called Michelle Obama a “whore” I’d be all like, that’s right! Everyone’s up in her stuff! (See, that was satire. A joke, if you will.)

        • chris

          Randi said this at an Air America sponsored event, it wasn’t a “small private event”.

          Lets not mince words about “on the radio”. Its doesn’t matter, your caught in a strawman red herring thread of thought there.

          And yes, I hold Hannity’s private appearances in the same way I hold his radio and TV appearances. If someone shows me a video of him saying these same things or racist things I’d make no distinction about WHERE he said it.

          All this is red herring argument. Sorry.

          And calling Rhodes a comedian is an insult to hard working comedians. Her former writer Barry Crimmins was the only reason she was sometimes funny, but otherwise she’s a demagogue hack.

  • Ted Strohmann

    air america was taken over by right wingers who want to suppress the voice of anybody who speaks out against hillary, while she tries to smear obama using fear tactics taken straight out of the republican’s playbook, and practically endorses mccain — which indicates she obviously doesn’t care anything about her party and only wants to get herself elected in 2012.

    • chris

      I respectfully disagree with you, in that these aren’t RightWingers….they are navel staring idiots who love to hear their own voices on the air. I like the Young Turks. But I’d have to disagree with you that they have become rightwingers despite their bullshit rhetoric.

      if you take a look at some of the leftwingers who get airtime, they often try to mimic the types of rants you find from Limbaugh and Hannity, and that is their trap. (perhaps this is where you are close…) but maybe the best way to say it is…they are engaged in demagoguery not unlike the Rightwing.

      And yes, they’ve been supporting GOP talking appoints against Obama, much like people have accused our friends around NoQuarter of engaging in RightWing talking points against Obama. One crucial difference would be….it is still safe to question Clinton, but criticize Obama and you’ll be treated to cult-like retaliation and smearing.

      Most of my friends who support Obama have been cool. But they were reasonable folks to begin with. But beyond that…many supporters I’ve dealt with are disgusting in their sexist hateful comments.

      They ruined their candidate for me, and Obama didn’t help by his passive aggressive crap. His campaign is filled with some vicious folks, and I probably wouldn’t care until they started the “end of politics of destruction” crap.

      • simon

        Maybe they’re just not talented, you know?

        Sometimes, despite the gig, the individual just doesn’t have the goods, the right stuff.

        • chris

          Exactly. One of my very good friends does a mediocre radio show that is almost a rehash of rightwing radio but from a left loyal position. It has its ups and downs but mostly its predictable back and forth chatter against Bush and the like. I think he’s a genius as a person, but on the air he assumes a personality that is different and very predictable.

          The problem of the delivery is that it really does nothing for the listeners regardless of their right/left bent. They can’t cross the line from left to right in the conversation and so when a ‘rightie’ calls in, it has to be confrontational, and if its a leftie it has to be a rah rah match.

          This is how our current politic breaks down, but by and large it does nothing to solve anything and it just reinforces the same old shit.

      • llilytoo

        If they aren’t right wingers, believe me, right wingers are paying them. BO’s money is from right wing HQ, Wall St. and these folks are earning a check. If you want progressive media, one must look on the web.

    • Nicole

      Hey, Ted Strohman, what you wrote is satire, right? I mean, that puerile rubbish is almost, word-for-word, what the Obamabrats spew in a steady stream. It’s nonsense.

  • 5by5

    Claiming that calling somebody a whore is “sexist” is pure hyperbole. The term whore does not carry purely sexist meaning. Donald Trump for instance – big ‘ole whore. Ryan Seacrest – whore. (Actually, I take that back – Ryan never had any principles to begin with.)

    In the dictionary, a whore is also defined as someone who “sacrifices their principles for personal gain.”

    Sucking up to Rupert Murdoch AND Richard Mellon Scaife?

    Especially when she just lost Texas to Obama, and unless she wins every single contest until the convention at rates of 60% or better, that she has no chance of winning the nomination even WITH the superdelegates she doesn’t have anyways?

    Yeah, that’s the desperate act of someone whoring themselves out to the enemy in order to save what is already lost.

    And before everyone here gets pissy about a “crazed Obama supporter”, I am an Edwards supporter. Barack has EARNED my respect over time, culminating in his response to this idiotic Rev. Wright kerfuffle with a speech that rivals any in American history in depth of thought and insightful observation, along with positive direction, and a solution-oriented frame of mind.

    Hillary’s tactics by contrast, have not earned my respect. Emulating the worst of Rove (Claiming to not know Obama wasn’t a a Muslim? Please.), lying about her achievements (Why does she even feel she has to do this? She is plenty accomplished on her own – she doesn’t need to be under sniper fire too.) reflecting a profound insecurity, and kissing WAY too much Republican ass, is NOT impressive.

    It IS whorish.

    You’re just pissed because Randi stated the uncomfortable truth — that Hillary will do ANYTHING for power.

    Just as McCain has demonstrated by tongue-kissing George Bush, and climbing into sword-wielding fundamentalist nutjob Rod Parsley’s pants. Whore. BIG whore.

    Someone who wants power for power’s sake THAT BADLY, will not be restoring the Constitution any time soon.

    Therein lies the problem.

    And this mindless hit job on Randi (apparently designed solely to get some woman named Taylor Marshal a job) is not going to change that.

    • yttik

      Calling two democratic women whores isn’t just sexist and an insult towards all women, it’s piss poor strategy for winning the general election. You don’t alienate half your party and you don’t eat your own.

      Now McCain, probably a king of misogyny, can legitamitely portray himself as being strong on women’s rights. All he has to do is run footage of RR calling two respected women whores and he’ll come out looking like a radical feminist. Even worse, if Obama gets the nomination, McCain can now use RR’s words to make Obama look like the idiot he is.

    • chris

      “And this mindless hit job on Randi (apparently designed solely to get some woman named Taylor Marshal a job) is not going to change that.”

      What mindless hit job are you talking about? Randi Rhodes spoke her mind, it was put up on YouTube and you blame anyone but Randi Rhodes? Your credibility is worth shit.

      And for you to say that calling a woman a whore isn’t sexist because you come up with Donald Trump is complete intellectual dishonesty.

      The rest of your drivel isn’t worth commenting on

      • 5by5

        Obviously, I was referring to the mindless hit job that has become this site, and this thread in particular.

        Unless Larry has stopped blogging entirely on his own site, or has adopted the name “SusanUnPC”, his site got hijacked by either Hillary campaign drones, or some agent of Taylor Marsh who basically wants her to get Randi’s gig, even though nobody’s ever heard of Taylor Marsh, and whoever this woman is, she doesn’t have nearly the ratings or national popular support that Randi does.

        And PS, I didn’t say that calling a woman a whore isn’t necessarily a sexist connotation, the DICTIONARY said that.

        Project much?

        The only ones being intellectually dishonest here are you, and the faux outrage team from Camp Hillary.

        Stop being such crybabies.

        The FACT is that you simply don’t have the numbers. You’ve already lost, there is no path to the nomination available to you through the votes, unless Hillary wins 60% or better in every single contest from now until the convention, and she’s never done that in any previous contest. Unless she ignores the will of the people and has these undemocratic superdelegates overturn the popular vote, she will not be the nominee.

        But her ego and yours are preventing you both from coming to that realization.

        I’m sorry that both of you don’t have the simple grace and humility to accept that FACT.

    • Karen

      Very well put! I concur! I am so tired of Hillary and her Rovian goons. And, by the way, I am a 57 year old caucasian college grduate from the South! Barack is clearly my candidate of choice in this most important election.

      • TeakwoodKite

        Barack is clearly my candidate of choice in this most important election.

        Why?

      • Eurogirl70

        Karen:

        Randi Rhodes works for Air America. She signed a contract with them and they pay her check. She did her vulger “routine” at an Air America sponsored event. Meaning, that she was representing her employer when she did this. Her behavior was in violation of her contract. You see most radio hosts have some kind of a “morality” clause in their contracts so that the corporate office does not loose ad revenue over behavior like this.

        Let’s say you were sent on a job assignment to a company affiliate. Let’s say you got up and started talking trask about co-workers and you boss. Do you not think that would make its’ way back to your boss and you would be fired for cause? I think you would.

        If Hillary Clinton, or anyone affiliated with her campaign, had used offensive language like this to describe Barack and Michelle Obama, your head would explode. But, apparently it is ok and a first amendment issue when it comes to Randi Rhodes talking trash about Hillary? Randi Rhodes does not have the same protections to privacy that you or I do. She is, by law, NOT a private individual. She earns her living in the public spotlight and that is the key. Especially since she was all in favor of Don Imus being terminated over his offensive comments directed at the Rutgers womens basketball team.

        Oh, and while we are throwing out academic credentials, I am 37 and hold a Bachelors degree in Political Science and a Masters in International Relations. I also live inside the Beltway!

  • Joe

    The event was organized by Obama supporters and announced on Obama’s website. http://nashvilleistalking.com/node/31505

    • llilytoo

      Well that’s interesting. As they say follow the money.

      • yttik

        Obama owes women an apology. He should make a statement saying he doesn’t condone the words RR used at the event his campaign helped to organize. He needs to denounce RR sexist remarks said on his behalf. Is that too much to ask from the Great Uniter? Probably.

  • Stefanie

    I watched the Randi Rhodes clip and didn’t find it funny or humorous at all, and don’t agree with her statements or references to them as whores and frankly anyone who mentions the “f” word constantly come across as uneducated and ignorant. That said, I don’t take issue with her or anyone stating their mind and especially if it is off hours in a nightclub atmosphere. People can disagree with her and get up and walk out if they want. But suspending her? And Larry Johnson, I have respected you a long time since I first started reading your blog and seeing interviews with you, in particular related to Joe Wilson and Valerie Plame, but for you of all people, a man I consider to be a Patriot to be calling for the removal of someone for what they say? I thought you fight and would die for this country and people’s rights? Or is it because your a Hillary supporter and you disagree with anyone who doesn’t agree with your view? Very disappointing that you have made it such an effort against someone like Randi Rhodes. Like I said before, I didn’t agree with anything she said, but it scares me that people here on this blog and led by you would call for such action to silence someone for speaking their opinion, regardless of how vulgar it was. Honestly, I’m more worried about the vitriol and demands on this blog for her head than I am about what she said. I think I’ll defend Randi Rhodes’ right to state her opinion no matter how much I disagree or find it offensive before I would ever demand to censor and remove people. How are any of you different from the far right or fascists that would like to censor us all if you take such effort to remove her?

    • PMS

      Stefanie,

      It was an Obama Campaign Event. A fund-raiser. You do understand that, right? The Uniter, the One, the Hope.

      And you were OK with Don Imus, too. Right?

      • Steven

        I’ve enjoyed the debate here, but calling Randi’s appearance an “Obama Campaign Event” is totally laughable! Where did you hear that? Is that the way that conservative talk radio is spinning it?

      • Stefanie

        Dear PMS – You understand, right, that this was the local radio station Green 960 in San Francisco hosting a party with Randi Rhodes as the headliner? It was not an Obama Campaign Event/Fundraiser, unofficially or officially. It wasn’t a campaign event for anyone.

        And no, I wasn’t okay with what Don Imus said. (Where did I say that in my post???) But since you bring Don Imus up, I will say this – A) I did not agree with what he said and found it offensive; B) I did support him being suspended, not fired, but not because I somehow thought what he did was worse or that there should be censorship, but rather because unlike Randi Rhodes, IMUS said what he said on the public airwaves, not in a private setting. C) Imus was making offensive comments (including racially implicating with the comment “nappy headed” as opposed to calling them “whores” by themselves) and he was making it in reference to women athletes who are not politicians. As even Bill Clinton himself recently pointed out, Politicians who are out there, deserve to be criticized and dissected and if they can’t take the heat, they need to get out of the kitchen. You are comparing Apples to Oranges there with the Don Imus analogy and wrongly assuming I was “okay” with it. I am against censorship. period. Even of the Ann Coulter’s and Hannity’s of the world. Censorship is wrong.

    • chris

      sorry, nobody has the constitutional right to have a drive time show…that is a privilege.

      She can go out on the street and speak her freedom of speech. And even then calling people “fucking whore” would probably be considered “fighting words” under Chaplinsky rulings.

      And as for freedom of speech, you have a lot of nerve smearing the freedom of speech here while lecturing Larry or anyone about Randi Rhodes.

      Randi can go launch a blog now and fire away at Larry J and others.

      And your real ire should be with Randi…she was who said what she said, should take responsibility and with the Air America bosses…they were the ones who made the decisions.

      But will you? Nope…because you have selective will about accountability.

      I don’t want her head, and I don’t believe anyone here wants her head. Many seem offended that she can go off calling two women this…but do you really care? nah….

      And I really get sick of the “I use to respect you” stuff towards Larry Johnson. It is getting boring to read this selective respect.

      • Stefanie

        Dear Chris – Where did I say that I “used to respect” Larry Johnson? I did not put it in past tense, but I definitely disagree with the pursuit here by Larry or any of those who want to see Randi Rhodes pay for her comments through censorship and removal. Where did I indicate in anyway that I agreed with what Randi Rhodes said or supported what she said? Rather I support and wish to protect her right to speak. And while you may think that Freedom of Speech is merely a privilege, I disagree, it is last I checked a Constitutionally protected right. The word “whore” may be offensive to some or most people, but it actually is a word that has meaning, particularly in reference to someone who would sell themselves for money, which while there are those that would disagree, there are many who feel that about the Clintons as well as most Politicians. I personally feel that way about many in the media as being “Media Whores”. And while you might not like the word “whore”, its not illegal to use it and in fact you could call a cop a “fucking whore” and it wouldn’t be illegal, just stupid because a pissed off cop might find something that they can get you on with a little probable cause. I actually for grins asked one of our local police officers today if it was illegal to call them that and they laughed and said it wasn’t, just what I said in the previous line about the consequences. So, I guess Randi found out consequences, but ones I don’t agree with because I don’t believe in censorship and I believe that is what we are seeing here and being called for many on this blog. I still believe that as repulsive and ignorant sounding and vulgar Randi was, she was not “on the FCC controlled and public airwaves” she was in a private nightclub after hours and she had a right to say what she said, no matter how much any of us disagree. Air America management at the urging of many on this board to remove her is censorship and I find that reprehensible and wrong and against what I believe the Constitution stands for and needs to be protected and possibly in particular because she is a member of the “media”. Everyone here too has the right to their freedom of speech and I don’t question that right, I question why people are for censorship if they say they are for freedom. I think that is a really important question for everyone to ask themselves.

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  • Militarytracy

    I hadn’t seen that clip. I hadn’t seen that clip because I have had to cut back on consumption of this primary race or I start using a Randi Rhodes vocabulary and that tneds to makes you less hireable, less desireable, less credible, and just less ;)

  • joe

    Randy Rhodes has always spoke to the lowest common denominator of the liberal movement/democratic party. Her being suspended means I actually may leave my radio on when her time slot comes up.

    But her comments while certainly over the top speak to the frustration that many BO supporters feel about the Clinton campaign. At every point in this campaign when things are not going the Clinton’s way they try to change the rules to fit their needs. The idea of using the electoral map to decide the candidate being the most absurd attempt yet.

    The harsh words on both sides of this blog speak of the damage to the democratic party that Clinton’s approach to this campaign has fostered. The idea that people actually even utter the words that they would vote for the evil McCain if their candidate does not get elected is terrifying to say the least. At this point Obama has already won the nomination and only Clinton and her most fervent supporters do not recognized that. However, if some unthinkable thing happened and Clinton won the nomination I would vote for her in an instant over McCain. I may not work on her campaign and instead put my efforts to a local campaign, but I would NEVER NEVER vote for McCain, and anyone who does because their Democrat did not win the nomination is sending this country down the toilet because of the own ego.

    • Militarytracy

      Please, John McCain is not satan and Obama has done his fair share to fight the rules when they don’t work well for him….lawsuits and all! Obama won’t vote for no more mercs in a U.S. warzone after January 2009. He gets no vote from me and he is so ambiguous on progressive issues I have not one shred of proof he is going to do or be anything that I really want in the end. I don’t cheerlead anymore and this is not a game.

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  • joe

    Your right Militarytracy it is not a game. And anyone who would vote for McCain because their candidate does not get the nomination is playing it like a game. You won’t vote for Obama because he is not progressive enough for you? But you will vote for McCain? Give me a break. The difference between Obabma and Clinton from a policy standpoint is minuscule and you cannot consider one progressive and not the other (truth is neither are really true progressives).

    Tell me what Clinton supports that is so progressive that sets her apart from Obama.

    Don’t buy into the media BS about the ‘Straight Talk Express’ and how McCain is such a maverick. Anything he has said or done in the past that separates him from any other Republican he has basically renounced in order to get the nomination

    • militarytracy

      His past voting record is a much better indicator of what to expect out of McCain. Obama doesn’t have much of one of those but he has lots and lots stories about how he would have voted when he couldn’t have voted. Clinton is more progressive on many issues than Obama. Obama has some progressive issues that his voting and his friends all reveal inspite of his flowery oration of ambiguity. Who is Krugman behind on healthcare? And Krugman is no idiot. I’d lay off the koolaid though and if I vote in the general election I’ll vote for the candidate who I think is going to handle Iraq best and I don’t give a damn whether you like that or not.

      • joe

        Why would I lay off the koolaid, I’d rather ask for another cup. Obama is the most exciting candidate to come on the national stage in more than a generation. I am still yet to figure out why Clinton supporters like to point to Obama’s oratory skills as a bad thing. I again state, policy wise they are not all that different, health care included. Clinton likes to talk about how the detailed specifics of her plan are so much better the Obama’s. If you agree that is great (personally I think both plans leave something to be desired and Edwards had the only really good plan), but we are talking small differences in a policy that is yet to even be proposed, not trying to work the fine details of an existing program.

        You are welcome to vote for whomever you want. But if you believe in Clinton policy wise than there is no place you can show McCain being closer to those policies than is Obama. What I hear from Clinton supporters is if my candidate does not win, I am taking my ball and going home.

        (Just to be clear, it bothers me equally if an Obama supporter says they will not vote for Clinton if she were the candidate.)

        I am still open to having anyone point out all the places that Clinton is so much more progressive than Obama.

  • candymarl

    I haven’t listened to AAR in months. At first I just dismissed the anti-Hillary stuff as the excitement of campaigning. Then the attacks got more personal and mean. I stopped listening then. I’d do the same if this kind of meanness was directed toward Barack.
    We try, but don’t always succeed, to leave the vicious name-calling to the extreme right.
    I don’t understand the hatred of Hillary from her own party. If the party leadership felt this way why did they support her during her Senate run?

    I would give the Democratic leadership the benefit of the doubt but they’ve been wrong for years. They were wrong when they didn’t support Clinton during the impeachment debacle. They were wrong when they didn’t fight for Gore in 2000. They were wrong when they chose Kerry over Dean in 2004. They were wrong in touting Kerry’s Vietnam heroics as the one area where the Republicans couldn’t touch him.
    As for Randi, maybe she just needed a break.

  • compos_mentis

    During Bill Clinton’s second term, I worked under his deputy chief of staff–and current Hillary strategist–Harold Ickes, at an international event. I can attest that the Clinton lieutenants and staff that I worked with were mostly surly, mean-spirited, and vulgar, with a peremptory, “my way or the highway” leadership style. I hope the country thinks twice about restoring these folks back to power.

    • sajo

      I can attest that the Clinton lieutenants and staff that I worked with were mostly surly, mean-spirited, and vulgar, with a peremptory, “my way or the highway” leadership style. I hope the country thinks twice about restoring these folks back to power

      .

      Compos,
      this is a comment made by a lot of the former Clinton staff, who found inspiration in working for the Obama campaign.

  • Retired

    To paraphrase and old saying, “Vulgarity, thy name is Randi.”

  • pvz

    randy sucks…..can anyone tell me what actually happened to her a few months ago when she was attacked in front of her building…..I do not like her at all (of course no one deserves to be assalted) but it seems she has lots of enemies…I dont ever want to see her in AAR, thats for sure…let her find a job in the obama camp

  • pvz

    …can anyone tell me what actually happened to her a few months ago when she was attacked in front of her building…..I do not like her at all (of course no one deserves to be assalted) but it seems she has lots of enemies…I dont ever want to see her in AAR, thats for sure…let her find a job in the obama camp

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  • cjcrew

    Congratulations, your war against free speech is going very well. Just remember this next time YOU have something you want to say that others disagree with.

    We cannot take rights away from any one person or group without affecting ourselves.

    Good job! Well Done! I’m sure you are very proud of yourselves.

    • chris

      You have a piss poor understanding of free speech.

      What happened here was…Randi Rhodes got her words mirrored out for the collective face of the society we live in to see. Her bosses at Air America, on their last financial legs, caved and yanked her. Where did Larry, Susan and C.S. do that? They simply reported to you their outrage at her sexist attacks.

      And before the morons speak about a “woman” saying “sexist” things…might want to understand the damages caused to women who get called “whore”. This was a self-serving rant by Randi Rhodes played for a sycophant bunch of haters in the Bay Area.

      The arguments so far:

      1. Bu bu…this was a Private event

      answer: yeah, thats why it was posted on BarackObama.com, invited as Barack Obama.com and Air America event…very private..bullshit

      2. But she was using whore like in the…sell out meaning

      answer: bullshit..she used the word in a safe audience that already hated the two women she attacked. And this would be no different than a bunch of hate mongers laughing to a black comedian attacking other black folks with the more socially acceptable pariah. Imagine the outrage if a comedian came in, who was black, and a radio show host or TV personality, and they attacked Barack Obama and Michelle Obama as…(insert patently offensive racist names, over and over)

      3. Randi Rhodes wasn’t on the air

      answer: sorry, this especially is irritating because it doesn’t matter, she was representing Air America as was clearly mentioned in the introductions, the advertising.

      4. Barack doesn’t have to answer for this, he didn’t do anything

      answer: Clinton didn’t make the comments Ferraro made, but you hear over and over that she was responsible. You hear it was her campaign, her people, her supporters…double standards!

      5. Hillary and Ferraro just need to toughen up:

      answer: this is particularly gauling…it condones bully behavior by blaming the recipient for the abuse they received

      6. But I hate Clinton and Ferraro, fuck off, Rhodes was right

      answer: I’d hate to be running a campaign (I’m talking to you Barack O) and have my base filled with this justification. It is part of the Politics of Destruction that Messiah Obama claimed he wasn’t into.

      7. This was a “hit piece” on Randi Rhodes by people who hate Obama

      answer: funny how little responsibility Obama, Rhodes, his surrogates and supporters are able to handle…and they are ready for the WH? This was called, ACCOUNTABILITY

      8. Randi Rhodes is a Progressive, the real voice of the Democrats

      answer: (choking on my own laughter) BWAAA HAHAHAHA..this is arrogance and elitism groupthink by those who believe they are the real Democrats

      9. This was a “War against free speech”

      answer: no, this was an exercise in free speech. FUCK YOU (<—free speech)

      10. We cannot take rights away from any one person or group without affecting ourselves

      answer: did you applaud the attacks on Geraldine Ferraro, Bill Clinton, or James Carville, there was a piling on by the Obama campaign…their supporters and surrogates. Want to dish it out, then you gotta take it.

  • JohnB

    Speaking from the Right, its funny, you always accused the Right of this bullshit but for years (since Carter) we’ve seen you guys dish it out. Its’ nice to see that your smelling your own shit.

    I hope Obama wins and he and McCain drop both campaigns and just do a tour of debates like Lincoln/Dougless.

    • chris

      no, that’s still your shit you’re smelling, its pretty stanky.

      And you wouldn’t ever see a Lincoln/Douglas (not Dougless) Debate in modern America.

      You certainly won’t see them out of Obama, and McCain will pull a Strangelovian antic long before he hits the stage.

      You really think you want a Lincoln/Douglas debate? describe what that debate would look like.

  • http://www.hugemoron.com ash

    but wait… Hillary is a whore though.. i mean… ALL POLITICIANS ARE WHORES! What happened to free speech? Now her supporters are turning into nazis. That does not make her look any better to anyone else. Encouraging the suspension of Randi Rhodes only weakens the Hillary camp. How sad.

    • chris

      oh, you want to go to calling her supporters Nazis now…this is how you get Randi Rhode’s back on the air? Interesting.

      Well, contrary to your idea of “free speech”, nobody stiffled Randi Rhodes free speech. She spoke, got her mouth all out of whack, and others free speeched right back at her. Air America exercised their free speech, her critics exercised their free speech.

      Free Speech does not give you Air Time. You have no idea what you are talking about when it comes to having air time and a radio show.

      The Government cannot inhibit your freedom of political speech. A private entity can end its relationship with you over comments you make. Now if you want to retaliate against Air America, go right ahead. But running around calling Hillary Clinton names and her supporters Nazis you’ve really demonstrated the level of support Randi Rhodes can gather.

  • Oldmaninhisunderwear

    RR speaks truth. The censorship attempt only inflames an already fatal infection in the party. The dying patient, Hillary, is already being wheeled to the morgue.

  • MJbos

    Wow. Just stumbled here. For a long time I thought I had stumbled on a Bill Orally, Man Coulter, or Yawn Hanity site.

    I’m sorry to have to say this .. but do some of you people realize what you’re saying and how you’re saying it???

    A good many of the posts here are filled with as much hate, condescention, and arrogance as as the virulent crap posted at WorldNewsNet, FreeRepublic, Newsmax, etc.

    Randi talked trash. I don’t always agree with her – and on a few occasions she’s been flat-out wrong on her facts (still, >90% accuracy overall is pretty damn good). I think she owes some folks an apology for the school-yard namecalling. But that should have been the end of it.

    Now we have dems calling other dems obamanots, nazis, facists, etc. Great lesson on how to steal defeat from the jaws of victory.

    To EVERYONE who’s acting like a sand-kicking, lunch-money-stealing, shoolyard bully … GROW THE F*** UP. We have SERIOUS, LIFE-THREATENING, MONUMENTAL PROBLEMS going on in this country.

    We can stew in this fecal soup and whine and cry at each other until McCain takes the election .. or we can focus our energy and sharpen our attacks at the real problems – and the people who caused them.

    Anyone see Feith’s interview (CYA) on 60 minutes? The report in The Nation about Chalalabi and how our State Department funded the PR machine? What about real justice for what happened to Valerie and Joe?

    That’s where the anger needs to be. Not at each other.

    I’m getting more fed up with the whole US political landscape by the day. Both sides.

    -mj

    • DJ

      Oh, well, if you are new here,
      YOU HAVE GOT TO READ:

      This, you might say, is “the jewel in the crown’

      http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/04/06/obama-supporters-take-the-low-rhode/

      Comment by Uppity | 2008-04-06 11:11:58

      I know that humor and satire are my strength, but I do not feel very humorous this morning.

      When I saw the John McCain-is-a-whore article on Huffy, it all fell into place for me. Dissipate the meaning of things, water them down, make them fools and the world will never know we really mean the hatred we spew. I believe that the Obama underground is all planned, fully enabled by their messiah. This is sinister, well-oiled shit. They want us dead. You can almost feel their bristle. I am telling you if Obama doesn’t get the nomination, they will burn and loot and kill. Blood will run in the streets like it did in the 60s, which I remember well.. I believe Howard Dean lives in fear right at this very moment.
      They will bulldoze their way through the streets of America until people will be too afraid to say ANYTHING. That Fear has already started. Are you not choosing your words for Fear of being called racist when you have no such intent? It is the 60s again. Only worse. They are using The Children. Nothing is more horrible than that. Only one horrible man in history was able to achieve this!

      If they could kill us to keep from voting against Him, they would. Look at the faces on CNN. Look at Roland nearly swoon in cultlike rationalization of the inexcusable. Look at the pained look on Lewis’ face. He loves Hillary, he remembers what she has done for the poor and the blacks. But he Fears. You can feel it. You can see it in his face. Listen to what people are NOT saying and you learn so much. Should a mesmerized person turn the message and ask me exactly who “They” are, then I say, if you have to even ask

      …and it goes on…….

  • bill buckley

    Ooh, Larry, the Moe haircut pic is awesome…It makes you look thin…really.
    Once CIA, always CIA plus or minus a few anal warts.

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  • fuck

    FUCK OFF YOU PRICKS

    • Donkey Brazziere

      lol…wah

  • Donkey Brazziere

    Taylor Marsh?………helllll no.

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  • DisenfranchisedVoter

    I read the comments on that petition. People like Rhodes in the media is the main reason why our party is divided. And it is even sadder that the people who signed that petition, these so called “progressives”, cannot see anything wrong or sexist about her comments. What is even worse, they want her reinstated immediately and don’t even believe she deserves to be suspended. I wonder how they would feel if a Clinton supporter in the media (goodness, I can’t even think of one right now) went to a public event and started calling Obama a “fucking n-word”. Would they still believe that it is someone’s right or freedom of speech to say these things. I cannot believe how disgusted I am with the people in the Democratic Party right now. I am so close to leaving but I am going to stay and make sure these bastards – Dean, Pelosi, Brazile, Obama, Rhodes, and all the rest of them – go down by supporting and voting for the politicians who supported Clinton and not voting for Obama or any other Obamabot who has treated Clinton like shit these last few months. This is a huge wakeup call for me.

  • chris

    This is what is so revealing about the great Unity crap Obama’s supporters claim they are for. If they were for Progressive ideals, if they were for “end of politics of destruction”, if they were for “hope” and for “change”…

    they wouldn’t be tolerating this crap.