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		<title>By: Hillary&#8217;s Voice &#187; From today&#8217;s Media News mailing 4/4/08</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hillary&#8217;s Voice &#187; From today&#8217;s Media News mailing 4/4/08</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Apr 2008 20:56:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] When “WTF” Means What the Fox! (by Larry Johnson) This is a joint piece with DC MEDIA GIRL.  We first met while being interviewed by Robert Greenwald for his documentary, OUTFOXED.  DC Media Girl and I had worked in different capacities at the Fox News Channel–she was a producer and I was “news analyst.”  We came out of the closet and spoke candidly about our respective experiences in watching Fox twist the news and propagandize on behalf of the Bush Administration.  We have been and remain tough critics of Fox and neither of us would be welcomed at their broadcast studio at 400 North Capitol.  Which is why we are both stunned to be writing the following: “When it comes to election coverage of the presidential contest between Senator Clinton and Senator Obama, Fox News is more “fair and balanced” than either MSNBC or CNN.  Damn!  How did that happen?” [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] When “WTF” Means What the Fox! (by Larry Johnson) This is a joint piece with DC MEDIA GIRL.  We first met while being interviewed by Robert Greenwald for his documentary, OUTFOXED.  DC Media Girl and I had worked in different capacities at the Fox News Channel–she was a producer and I was “news analyst.”  We came out of the closet and spoke candidly about our respective experiences in watching Fox twist the news and propagandize on behalf of the Bush Administration.  We have been and remain tough critics of Fox and neither of us would be welcomed at their broadcast studio at 400 North Capitol.  Which is why we are both stunned to be writing the following: “When it comes to election coverage of the presidential contest between Senator Clinton and Senator Obama, Fox News is more “fair and balanced” than either MSNBC or CNN.  Damn!  How did that happen?” [...]</p>
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		<title>By: it'snotme</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2044/when-wtf-means-what-the-fox/#comment-179264</link>
		<dc:creator>it'snotme</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Apr 2008 19:49:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I stopped watching Fox soon after the 2000 election theft. Now, they&#039;re they only network who will give any negative coverage of Mr. Hope and semi-positive coverage of Hillary (as positive as they&#039;re capable of giving). WTF? That network has been banned from my home for 8 years! Something is seriously wrong.:( 

Oh yeah...Keith Olbermann is now on my &quot;banned from my home list&quot; and I never missed his show.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I stopped watching Fox soon after the 2000 election theft. Now, they&#8217;re they only network who will give any negative coverage of Mr. Hope and semi-positive coverage of Hillary (as positive as they&#8217;re capable of giving). WTF? That network has been banned from my home for 8 years! Something is seriously wrong.:( </p>
<p>Oh yeah&#8230;Keith Olbermann is now on my &#8220;banned from my home list&#8221; and I never missed his show.</p>
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		<title>By: Make Them Accountable / Media</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2044/when-wtf-means-what-the-fox/#comment-179125</link>
		<dc:creator>Make Them Accountable / Media</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Apr 2008 17:53:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] When “WTF” Means What the Fox! (by Larry Johnson) This is a joint piece with DC MEDIA GIRL.  We first met while being interviewed by Robert Greenwald for his documentary, OUTFOXED.  DC Media Girl and I had worked in different capacities at the Fox News Channel–she was a producer and I was “news analyst.”  We came out of the closet and spoke candidly about our respective experiences in watching Fox twist the news and propagandize on behalf of the Bush Administration.  We have been and remain tough critics of Fox and neither of us would be welcomed at their broadcast studio at 400 North Capitol.  Which is why we are both stunned to be writing the following: “When it comes to election coverage of the presidential contest between Senator Clinton and Senator Obama, Fox News is more “fair and balanced” than either MSNBC or CNN.  Damn!  How did that happen?” [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] When “WTF” Means What the Fox! (by Larry Johnson) This is a joint piece with DC MEDIA GIRL.  We first met while being interviewed by Robert Greenwald for his documentary, OUTFOXED.  DC Media Girl and I had worked in different capacities at the Fox News Channel–she was a producer and I was “news analyst.”  We came out of the closet and spoke candidly about our respective experiences in watching Fox twist the news and propagandize on behalf of the Bush Administration.  We have been and remain tough critics of Fox and neither of us would be welcomed at their broadcast studio at 400 North Capitol.  Which is why we are both stunned to be writing the following: “When it comes to election coverage of the presidential contest between Senator Clinton and Senator Obama, Fox News is more “fair and balanced” than either MSNBC or CNN.  Damn!  How did that happen?” [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Connie L</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2044/when-wtf-means-what-the-fox/#comment-179087</link>
		<dc:creator>Connie L</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Apr 2008 17:10:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with Larry and Susan, for some reason that I can&#039;t figure out, the media has been grossly unfair to Hillary. The media seems to be bending over backwards to give Obama only good press even though he has a lot of gray matter in his background. I don&#039;t think the media thinks some much about the truth as of what would be the most interesting candidate to have running against McCain. I don&#039;t think was always the case. Tabloid news coverage seems to be the new news topic.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with Larry and Susan, for some reason that I can&#8217;t figure out, the media has been grossly unfair to Hillary. The media seems to be bending over backwards to give Obama only good press even though he has a lot of gray matter in his background. I don&#8217;t think the media thinks some much about the truth as of what would be the most interesting candidate to have running against McCain. I don&#8217;t think was always the case. Tabloid news coverage seems to be the new news topic.</p>
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		<title>By: sjc-tx</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2044/when-wtf-means-what-the-fox/#comment-179034</link>
		<dc:creator>sjc-tx</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Apr 2008 16:27:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>aye...  I hear that if you drink too much you become bitter, arrogant, ignorant and self-serving - oh and unable to answer a simple question.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>aye&#8230;  I hear that if you drink too much you become bitter, arrogant, ignorant and self-serving &#8211; oh and unable to answer a simple question.</p>
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		<title>By: Smilin' Jim</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2044/when-wtf-means-what-the-fox/#comment-179011</link>
		<dc:creator>Smilin' Jim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Apr 2008 16:04:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My bitter experience in casting pearls before swine is that the nitwits invariably trip over them, break something and sue you.

It&#039;s also best not to feed the trolls.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My bitter experience in casting pearls before swine is that the nitwits invariably trip over them, break something and sue you.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s also best not to feed the trolls.</p>
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		<title>By: Salo</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2044/when-wtf-means-what-the-fox/#comment-179010</link>
		<dc:creator>Salo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Apr 2008 16:01:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rhodes has shown herself. So to has Olberman.

That&#039;s all. Hannity gives her a fairer shake then either of the two.

It is a strange revelation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rhodes has shown herself. So to has Olberman.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s all. Hannity gives her a fairer shake then either of the two.</p>
<p>It is a strange revelation.</p>
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		<title>By: Salo</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2044/when-wtf-means-what-the-fox/#comment-179009</link>
		<dc:creator>Salo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Apr 2008 16:00:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t think Fox have been converted to Clinton.

We have just seen the outer edge of their journalistic professionalism.

There&#039;s a line they are not willing to cross.

Consider them revealed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think Fox have been converted to Clinton.</p>
<p>We have just seen the outer edge of their journalistic professionalism.</p>
<p>There&#8217;s a line they are not willing to cross.</p>
<p>Consider them revealed.</p>
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		<title>By: kenoshaMarge</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2044/when-wtf-means-what-the-fox/#comment-178937</link>
		<dc:creator>kenoshaMarge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Apr 2008 13:57:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It’s long past time Libs take a good look around and say “WTF”?

 Olbermann became a lefty hero for bashing Bush. He made no attempt to be fair or honest and so most libs loved him because most libs agreed with him. That may be fun, but it ain’t journalism.   He made it his shtick to bash O’Reilly. Easy to do since O’Reilly can’t open his mouth without inserting size 13 foot. Soon boring.

Now Olbermann, TweetyPants, Scarborough et al spend much of their time bashing Hillary Clinton, with a sideswipe at Bush now and again &amp; over at FOX they are equal in their disdain for both Democrats. WTF indeed.

I seldom watch FOX, never watch MSNBC and pop over to CNN occasionally to find out who is bashing the Clintons presently; Cafferty &amp; Crowley usually, the Laurel and Hardy of CNN. Only Dobbs doesn’t worship the Obama and is concerned about voters being disenfranchised. Doesn’t seem to worship “da roolz” either.

Some of us, many of us, maybe even most of us truly believed that the unfair treatment liberal politicians got in the MSM would now be somewhat “balanced” by the fair treatment they would all get in Left Blogostan. We believed in and participated at blogs that told us how they were all about open and fair elections. They claimed to be the alternative to the hypocrisy in the media. They said they hated the tactics and ethics of the evil Republicans/Conservatives. They were against all things “Rovian”.  Now we find out, mostly not so much. The few Blogs with any integrity left for the left can now be counted on the fingers of one hand.

If the dreaded FOX, the Murdoch Death Star is now the most balanced then that is all the proof we need that the rest of media is truly a sewer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It’s long past time Libs take a good look around and say “WTF”?</p>
<p> Olbermann became a lefty hero for bashing Bush. He made no attempt to be fair or honest and so most libs loved him because most libs agreed with him. That may be fun, but it ain’t journalism.   He made it his shtick to bash O’Reilly. Easy to do since O’Reilly can’t open his mouth without inserting size 13 foot. Soon boring.</p>
<p>Now Olbermann, TweetyPants, Scarborough et al spend much of their time bashing Hillary Clinton, with a sideswipe at Bush now and again &amp; over at FOX they are equal in their disdain for both Democrats. WTF indeed.</p>
<p>I seldom watch FOX, never watch MSNBC and pop over to CNN occasionally to find out who is bashing the Clintons presently; Cafferty &amp; Crowley usually, the Laurel and Hardy of CNN. Only Dobbs doesn’t worship the Obama and is concerned about voters being disenfranchised. Doesn’t seem to worship “da roolz” either.</p>
<p>Some of us, many of us, maybe even most of us truly believed that the unfair treatment liberal politicians got in the MSM would now be somewhat “balanced” by the fair treatment they would all get in Left Blogostan. We believed in and participated at blogs that told us how they were all about open and fair elections. They claimed to be the alternative to the hypocrisy in the media. They said they hated the tactics and ethics of the evil Republicans/Conservatives. They were against all things “Rovian”.  Now we find out, mostly not so much. The few Blogs with any integrity left for the left can now be counted on the fingers of one hand.</p>
<p>If the dreaded FOX, the Murdoch Death Star is now the most balanced then that is all the proof we need that the rest of media is truly a sewer.</p>
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		<title>By: Rob Gard</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2044/when-wtf-means-what-the-fox/#comment-178933</link>
		<dc:creator>Rob Gard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Apr 2008 13:48:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fox is no friend of the Democratic Party, and their management, if not also their on-air &quot;talent&quot;, favor Republican politics and politicians.  FOX is even-handed with the two Democratic candidates, and does not favor one over the other; attacking or defending both, when they see the grounds to do so.  CNN and MSNBC do actually show a clear preference between the Democratic candidates, and report on every Obama talking point against Hillary, but generally refuse to report anything negative against Obama.  When they (CNN and MSNBC) do any form of negative reporting against Hillary, the story is repeated several times an hour, and often for days on end.  Whwn there is negative reporting on Obama, CNN and MSNBC generally have a group of Obama supporting &quot;pundits&quot; on the scene to explain away or spin any negative news, and they do not go out of their way to keep the stories alive, unless there are new significant developments.  For the most part, they fail entirely to report on any misstatements, inconsistencies, or outright lies from Obama, and folks like Olbermann and Matthews simply make shit up.  When documentation surfaces that discredits the stories told by Olbermann or Matthews, they don&#039;t make corrections, but instead keep telling the same lies as if no one will ever notice.  The irony in this is that Olbermann used to be one of the news/talk show hosts that I respected because he was quick to go on the air and apologize for any errors, no matter how insignificant, and now he tells whoppers with a smarmy straight face like the candidate he so clearly adores.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fox is no friend of the Democratic Party, and their management, if not also their on-air &#8220;talent&#8221;, favor Republican politics and politicians.  FOX is even-handed with the two Democratic candidates, and does not favor one over the other; attacking or defending both, when they see the grounds to do so.  CNN and MSNBC do actually show a clear preference between the Democratic candidates, and report on every Obama talking point against Hillary, but generally refuse to report anything negative against Obama.  When they (CNN and MSNBC) do any form of negative reporting against Hillary, the story is repeated several times an hour, and often for days on end.  Whwn there is negative reporting on Obama, CNN and MSNBC generally have a group of Obama supporting &#8220;pundits&#8221; on the scene to explain away or spin any negative news, and they do not go out of their way to keep the stories alive, unless there are new significant developments.  For the most part, they fail entirely to report on any misstatements, inconsistencies, or outright lies from Obama, and folks like Olbermann and Matthews simply make shit up.  When documentation surfaces that discredits the stories told by Olbermann or Matthews, they don&#8217;t make corrections, but instead keep telling the same lies as if no one will ever notice.  The irony in this is that Olbermann used to be one of the news/talk show hosts that I respected because he was quick to go on the air and apologize for any errors, no matter how insignificant, and now he tells whoppers with a smarmy straight face like the candidate he so clearly adores.</p>
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		<title>By: Centrocitta</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2044/when-wtf-means-what-the-fox/#comment-178909</link>
		<dc:creator>Centrocitta</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Apr 2008 13:23:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Geez, what a difference two years and a worthless dollar make.  In 2006 at this time, they were turning back flights from Heathrow.  It&#039;s a funny thing -- that &quot;terrorism&quot;.  Can you imagine how pissed off Zionist Bernanke would be now if obstacles were put in the way of Europeans desiring to shop and invest in the USA while American citizens go to the poor house?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Geez, what a difference two years and a worthless dollar make.  In 2006 at this time, they were turning back flights from Heathrow.  It&#8217;s a funny thing &#8212; that &#8220;terrorism&#8221;.  Can you imagine how pissed off Zionist Bernanke would be now if obstacles were put in the way of Europeans desiring to shop and invest in the USA while American citizens go to the poor house?</p>
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		<title>By: kenoshaMarge</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2044/when-wtf-means-what-the-fox/#comment-178898</link>
		<dc:creator>kenoshaMarge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Apr 2008 13:04:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Isn&#039;t Keith getting his &quot;thrill&quot; from his girl friend who is 30 years younger or something like that? None of my business but a whole lot of Left Blogostan made fun of Fred Thompson for that if I recall. Double standards left and right.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Isn&#8217;t Keith getting his &#8220;thrill&#8221; from his girl friend who is 30 years younger or something like that? None of my business but a whole lot of Left Blogostan made fun of Fred Thompson for that if I recall. Double standards left and right.</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2044/when-wtf-means-what-the-fox/#comment-178891</link>
		<dc:creator>Kevin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Apr 2008 12:58:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>poppycock, I questioned the nuetrality of the source and nothing more. What, you agree that Fox is unbiased, or more importantly the source of the quote that annointed Fox thusly is unbiased?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>poppycock, I questioned the nuetrality of the source and nothing more. What, you agree that Fox is unbiased, or more importantly the source of the quote that annointed Fox thusly is unbiased?</p>
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		<title>By: chris</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2044/when-wtf-means-what-the-fox/#comment-178889</link>
		<dc:creator>chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Apr 2008 12:52:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>of course their reason hasn&#039;t changed, but you should ask yourself...what is reliable news reporting?  If you have any experience breaking down propaganda you&#039;ll see that countries like the former Soviet Union had papers that the people learned to read what Pravda said.  A good Romanian journalist friend of mine talked about how they would read the papers to find out what was happening in the west and could figure it out pretty accurately now that he lives here.  He learned to outsmart the filter.

This is done here too, but in our case we have to consider that instead of having ONE STATE paper, we have a million opinions...sort of the yang to the yin.  And after a while its hard for people to cover up the truth for very long...but easy if you simply think Keith Olbermann is going to tell it to you late at night.

I encourage you to read as close to first source as you can instead of relying up on second, third, 10th...sourcing.

I hear FoxNews or CNN say, &quot;Intel report today says.&quot;...then I go looking for the document itself.  Some are short reads of a few pages and some are 600page or more in PDF form.  Its worth the dig.

For instance: when Brit &quot;Slackjaw&quot; Hume would refer over and over to the Senate 2002 Intel Report to claim Plame sent Wilson cuz it was in the report...I downloaded the whole report and found...this was bullshit.  And because I read the whole report (most of which has nothing to do with Plame or Wilson) it was easy to debunk it on arrival.

This is how to be a well armed media militia.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>of course their reason hasn&#8217;t changed, but you should ask yourself&#8230;what is reliable news reporting?  If you have any experience breaking down propaganda you&#8217;ll see that countries like the former Soviet Union had papers that the people learned to read what Pravda said.  A good Romanian journalist friend of mine talked about how they would read the papers to find out what was happening in the west and could figure it out pretty accurately now that he lives here.  He learned to outsmart the filter.</p>
<p>This is done here too, but in our case we have to consider that instead of having ONE STATE paper, we have a million opinions&#8230;sort of the yang to the yin.  And after a while its hard for people to cover up the truth for very long&#8230;but easy if you simply think Keith Olbermann is going to tell it to you late at night.</p>
<p>I encourage you to read as close to first source as you can instead of relying up on second, third, 10th&#8230;sourcing.</p>
<p>I hear FoxNews or CNN say, &#8220;Intel report today says.&#8221;&#8230;then I go looking for the document itself.  Some are short reads of a few pages and some are 600page or more in PDF form.  Its worth the dig.</p>
<p>For instance: when Brit &#8220;Slackjaw&#8221; Hume would refer over and over to the Senate 2002 Intel Report to claim Plame sent Wilson cuz it was in the report&#8230;I downloaded the whole report and found&#8230;this was bullshit.  And because I read the whole report (most of which has nothing to do with Plame or Wilson) it was easy to debunk it on arrival.</p>
<p>This is how to be a well armed media militia.</p>
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		<title>By: Mitchman</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2044/when-wtf-means-what-the-fox/#comment-178882</link>
		<dc:creator>Mitchman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Apr 2008 12:35:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wasn&#039;t the theme of OutFoxed - &quot;the more people consume your media [Fox News], the less they’ll know
about the subject&quot;....??????      read that again...

I know they are hammering Obama big time - but their reason of being has not changed.  It&#039;s to promote the Republican Party and their initiatives across the Murdoch empire.  Let that one wash around for a while.  Fox News hasn&#039;t changed at all....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wasn&#8217;t the theme of OutFoxed &#8211; &#8220;the more people consume your media [Fox News], the less they’ll know<br />
about the subject&#8221;&#8230;.??????      read that again&#8230;</p>
<p>I know they are hammering Obama big time &#8211; but their reason of being has not changed.  It&#8217;s to promote the Republican Party and their initiatives across the Murdoch empire.  Let that one wash around for a while.  Fox News hasn&#8217;t changed at all&#8230;.</p>
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