Comments on: Blame Bush and Cheney for the Somalia Piracy http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/20689/blame-bush-and-cheney-for-the-somalia-piracy/ Sun, 27 May 2012 09:11:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.4 By: ayatul kursi http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/20689/blame-bush-and-cheney-for-the-somalia-piracy/#comment-1550358 ayatul kursi Wed, 30 Nov 2011 15:04:00 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=20689#comment-1550358 Obama have no own policy, Obama administration just following Bush administration way. Obama have no own policy, Obama administration just following Bush administration way.

]]> By: Michael Dugas http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/20689/blame-bush-and-cheney-for-the-somalia-piracy/#comment-1185528 Michael Dugas Thu, 16 Apr 2009 07:46:22 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=20689#comment-1185528 People you have to get over this Bush on the Brain crap. Somali pirates have been plying the coast there since before we were a country, and not just the Somalians. You all sound like the monomaniacal Captain Ahab and Bush is your White Whale and he's stuck in your brain like a bad song. Stop parroting the spin doctors and do a little legitimate research and you may find yourselves "cured" People you have to get over this Bush on the Brain crap.
Somali pirates have been plying the coast there
since before we were a country, and not just the Somalians.
You all sound like the monomaniacal Captain Ahab
and Bush is your White Whale and he’s stuck in
your brain like a bad song. Stop parroting
the spin doctors and do a little legitimate
research and you may find yourselves “cured”

]]> By: The Presidential Monkey’s Paw - streiff’s blog - RedState http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/20689/blame-bush-and-cheney-for-the-somalia-piracy/#comment-1183233 The Presidential Monkey’s Paw - streiff’s blog - RedState Tue, 14 Apr 2009 22:39:52 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=20689#comment-1183233 [...] Obama administration can woof all it wishes via its coterie of lickspittles (here | here about the neglect of the Bush Administration giving rise to piracy based in Somalia. The [...] [...] Obama administration can woof all it wishes via its coterie of lickspittles (here | here about the neglect of the Bush Administration giving rise to piracy based in Somalia. The [...]

]]> By: Fred http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/20689/blame-bush-and-cheney-for-the-somalia-piracy/#comment-1180644 Fred Sun, 12 Apr 2009 18:43:10 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=20689#comment-1180644 Actually it is the pirates fault. No one ele's! Let us all get away from blaming America or the President for this. Actually it is the pirates fault. No one ele’s! Let us all get away from blaming America or the President for this.

]]> By: Blame Bush http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/20689/blame-bush-and-cheney-for-the-somalia-piracy/#comment-1180158 Blame Bush Sun, 12 Apr 2009 11:50:24 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=20689#comment-1180158 If it was not for Bush who interfered in Somlia's Politics piracy off the coast of Somalia would have been wiped by now. He was responsible for indirectly supporting the war against ICU(Islamic Courts union) who had stopped piracy for the few months they were in power. If it was not for Bush who interfered in Somlia’s Politics piracy off the coast of Somalia would have been wiped by now. He was responsible for indirectly supporting the war against ICU(Islamic Courts union) who had stopped piracy for the few months they were in power.

]]> By: Fred http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/20689/blame-bush-and-cheney-for-the-somalia-piracy/#comment-1179984 Fred Sun, 12 Apr 2009 06:03:23 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=20689#comment-1179984 ObamaCarter: What do you expect Obama to do? He is actually doing what he believes he should do in regards to terrorism, piracy, war, or dangerous crisis situations. Nada! He would rather curl up in a ball on the floor than face this. The man is not a leader or warrior. Your getting what you paid for or voted for liberals. Dont complain of whine. Maybe you guys should go protest or wish just wish it away. Regardless, to me it's just plain commedy watching this guy(Obamacarter). ObamaCarter:

What do you expect Obama to do? He is actually doing what he believes he should do in regards to terrorism, piracy, war, or dangerous crisis situations. Nada! He would rather curl up in a ball on the floor than face this. The man is not a leader or warrior. Your getting what you paid for or voted for liberals. Dont complain of whine. Maybe you guys should go protest or wish just wish it away. Regardless, to me it’s just plain commedy watching this guy(Obamacarter).

]]> By: Ken in IL http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/20689/blame-bush-and-cheney-for-the-somalia-piracy/#comment-1178268 Ken in IL Fri, 10 Apr 2009 21:16:42 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=20689#comment-1178268 The US Navy probably goes to sea without ammo to be safe! The US Navy probably goes to sea without ammo to be safe!

]]> By: DEL http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/20689/blame-bush-and-cheney-for-the-somalia-piracy/#comment-1178100 DEL Fri, 10 Apr 2009 18:53:42 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=20689#comment-1178100 Do tell. That sounds interesting. Do tell.
That sounds interesting.

]]> By: adagioforstrings http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/20689/blame-bush-and-cheney-for-the-somalia-piracy/#comment-1178011 adagioforstrings Fri, 10 Apr 2009 17:28:49 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=20689#comment-1178011 Why did Somalia's government collapse? The US sent food aid under Bush Sr. The reason Soamlians were starving was not because of drought, but because war loards were deliberately starving their people for political purposes. Clinton tried to address the root cause of the problem by attempting to remove the war lords from power. Somalians allowed their politics to be run by warlords & allowed their commerce to be run by pirates. Why did Somalia’s government collapse? The US sent food aid under Bush Sr. The reason Soamlians were starving was not because of drought, but because war loards were deliberately starving their people for political purposes. Clinton tried to address the root cause of the problem by attempting to remove the war lords from power. Somalians allowed their politics to be run by warlords & allowed their commerce to be run by pirates.

]]> By: KintheNorthwest http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/20689/blame-bush-and-cheney-for-the-somalia-piracy/#comment-1177949 KintheNorthwest Fri, 10 Apr 2009 16:51:25 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=20689#comment-1177949 Obama has done nothing to make America look good in the eyes of the world since he stepped into office. In fact Obama has been systematically putting America down as a nation in many aspects, especially in his latest speeches. So yes I do blame Obama for what is happening with the piracy. Obama is putting up the target on our butt, by saying <em>Look at us weak arrogant Americans who are failing finacially. Look at us weak arrogant Americans who are letting admitted terriorists go, even stopping trials on the worse.</em> Think about it guys --- listen to Obama's words and watch Obama's actions. Is Obama protraying the role of a man who is the head of a great nation or ???? Is Obama protraying the role of a man who is proud of the country he rules... Obama's voice is being heard around the world and Obama's voice is not protraying an America that is strong and powerful. Obama has done nothing to make America look good in the eyes of the world since he stepped into office.
In fact Obama has been systematically putting America down as a nation in many aspects, especially in his latest speeches. So yes I do blame Obama for what is happening with the piracy.

Obama is putting up the target on our butt, by saying
Look at us weak arrogant Americans who are failing finacially.
Look at us weak arrogant Americans who are letting admitted terriorists go, even stopping trials on the worse.

Think about it guys — listen to Obama’s words and watch Obama’s actions.

Is Obama protraying the role of a man who is the head of a great nation or ???? Is Obama protraying the role of a man who is proud of the country he rules…

Obama’s voice is being heard around the world and Obama’s voice is not protraying an America that is strong and powerful.

]]> By: L http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/20689/blame-bush-and-cheney-for-the-somalia-piracy/#comment-1177925 L Fri, 10 Apr 2009 16:30:03 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=20689#comment-1177925 I think you are really grasping at straws on this one Larry. They were not attacking American ships before and I am sure if there had been a request to respond we would have done so. Your bias has really been showing lately. I think you are really grasping at straws on this one
Larry. They were not attacking American ships before
and I am sure if there had been a request to respond
we would have done so. Your bias has really been
showing lately.

]]> By: WMCB http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/20689/blame-bush-and-cheney-for-the-somalia-piracy/#comment-1177850 WMCB Fri, 10 Apr 2009 15:02:20 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=20689#comment-1177850 I might have some sympathy for that view, IF the boats being attacked were either the illegal fishers or the dumpers. But they aren't. They are merely attacking any target that will get them a nice fat ransom. It's ALL about the money, now, and the fishing and dumping abuses have become the convenient excuse to terrorize anyone they want, for money. I might have some sympathy for that view, IF the boats being attacked were either the illegal fishers or the dumpers. But they aren’t.

They are merely attacking any target that will get them a nice fat ransom. It’s ALL about the money, now, and the fishing and dumping abuses have become the convenient excuse to terrorize anyone they want, for money.

]]> By: BARB http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/20689/blame-bush-and-cheney-for-the-somalia-piracy/#comment-1177830 BARB Fri, 10 Apr 2009 14:36:45 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=20689#comment-1177830 Another POV! http://rebelreports.com/search/SOMALI <b>The New York Times acknowledged, “the piracy industry started about 10 to 15 years ago… as a response to illegal fishing.”</b> Take this fact: Over $300 million worth of tuna, shrimp, and lobster are “being stolen every year by illegal trawlers” off Somalia’s coast, forcing the fishing industry there into a state of virtual non-existence. But it isn’t just the theft of seafood. <b>Nuclear dumping has polluted the environment. “In 1991, the government of Somalia collapsed,” wrote Johann Hari in The Independent. “Its nine million people have been teetering on starvation ever since – and the ugliest forces in the Western world have seen this as a great opportunity to steal the country’s food supply and dump our nuclear waste in their seas.”</b> According to Hari: As soon as the [Somali] government was gone, mysterious European ships started appearing off the coast of Somalia, dumping vast barrels into the ocean. The coastal population began to sicken. At first they suffered strange rashes, nausea and malformed babies. Then, after the 2005 tsunami, hundreds of the dumped and leaking barrels washed up on shore. People began to suffer from radiation sickness, and more than 300 died. … This is the context in which the “pirates” have emerged. Somalian fishermen took speedboats to try to dissuade the dumpers and trawlers, or at least levy a “tax” on them. They call themselves the Volunteer Coastguard of Somalia – and ordinary Somalis agree. The independent Somalian news site WardheerNews found 70 per cent “strongly supported the piracy as a form of national defence.” Another POV!

http://rebelreports.com/search/SOMALI

The New York Times acknowledged, “the piracy industry started about 10 to 15 years ago… as a response to illegal fishing.”

Take this fact: Over $300 million worth of tuna, shrimp, and lobster are “being stolen every year by illegal trawlers” off Somalia’s coast, forcing the fishing industry there into a state of virtual non-existence.

But it isn’t just the theft of seafood. Nuclear dumping has polluted the environment. “In 1991, the government of Somalia collapsed,” wrote Johann Hari in The Independent. “Its nine million people have been teetering on starvation ever since – and the ugliest forces in the Western world have seen this as a great opportunity to steal the country’s food supply and dump our nuclear waste in their seas.”

According to Hari:

As soon as the [Somali] government was gone, mysterious European ships started appearing off the coast of Somalia, dumping vast barrels into the ocean. The coastal population began to sicken. At first they suffered strange rashes, nausea and malformed babies. Then, after the 2005 tsunami, hundreds of the dumped and leaking barrels washed up on shore. People began to suffer from radiation sickness, and more than 300 died.
…

This is the context in which the “pirates” have emerged. Somalian fishermen took speedboats to try to dissuade the dumpers and trawlers, or at least levy a “tax” on them. They call themselves the Volunteer Coastguard of Somalia – and ordinary Somalis agree. The independent Somalian news site WardheerNews found 70 per cent “strongly supported the piracy as a form of national defence.”

]]> By: elise http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/20689/blame-bush-and-cheney-for-the-somalia-piracy/#comment-1177556 elise Fri, 10 Apr 2009 06:58:46 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=20689#comment-1177556 KmK I don't understand your argument. Is it your view the government should ignore a problem until something happens involving our citizens and then ask others to help us solve the problems? This is the basic flaw in every ideology, tunnel vision. Bush and Cheney spent all their focus on Iraq which was not a threat, cost the US the ability to ask for cooperation from other countries and while they had their backs turned a real problem was ignored. Where, for example, is the extorted money going if not to those who are not our friends? Piracy is only one of the international issues they didn't have on their radar, including the economic free fall. KmK I don’t understand your argument. Is it your view the government should ignore a problem until something happens involving our citizens and then ask others to help us solve the problems? This is the basic flaw in every ideology, tunnel vision. Bush and Cheney spent all their focus on Iraq which was not a threat, cost the US the ability to ask for cooperation from other countries and while they had their backs turned a real problem was ignored. Where, for example, is the extorted money going if not to those who are not our friends? Piracy is only one of the international issues they didn’t have on their radar, including the economic free fall.

]]> By: TeakwoodKite http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/20689/blame-bush-and-cheney-for-the-somalia-piracy/#comment-1177508 TeakwoodKite Fri, 10 Apr 2009 05:39:21 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=20689#comment-1177508 Baba, point taken. Just stipulate that we can "afford" it. Would this surveillance be any help? Baba, point taken. Just stipulate that we can “afford” it. Would this surveillance be any help?

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