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Keith’s Head does a 340º on who’s Responsible for FISA

Keith Olbermann recently included a silk glove attack on an Obama administration position regarding wiretapping. Keith got props from many sources for his “willingness to call out Obama” on an issue.

Feh. I’m not impressed. Let’s review, shall we?

Waaaaay back in June, Larry Johnson ripped at KO for his willingness to overlook BO’s wobbly political positions on any number of things, including FISA. Included was a reminder of what Olbermann said about Bush and FISA.

Let’s start with evil Bush man.

On January 31 of this year, Keith Olbermann donned his most serious face and most indignant voice tone to rail against George Bush for supporting telecom immunity and revisions to FISA. In a 10-minute “Special Comment,” the MSNBC star condemned Bush for wanting to “retroactively immunize corporate criminals,” and said that telecom immnity is “an ex post facto law, which would clear the phone giants from responsibility for their systematic, aggressive and blatant collaboration with [Bush's] illegal and unjustified spying on Americans under this flimsy guise of looking for any terrorists who are stupid enough to make a collect call or send a mass email.”

Olbermann added that telecom amnesty was a “shameless, breathless, literally textbook example of Fascism — the merged efforts of government and corporations that answer to no government.” Noting the numerous telecom lobbyists connected to the Bush administration, Olbermann said:

This is no longer just a farce in which protecting telecoms is dressed up as protecting us from terrorists conference cells. Now it begins to look like the bureaucrats of the Third Reich, trying to protect the Krupp family, the industrial giants, re-writing the laws of Germany for their benefit.

Just a few days after Larry’s post, NQ discussed (see Obama’s Two Faces and Forked Tongue) Obama’s flip-flop on FISA.

The second liberal principal Obama sacrificed in the space of one week is his decision to support a bill that gives the telecoms retroactive immunity. Only last year Obama promised to filibuster the bill but instead, in a stomach-lurching turn to the right, he gave his support to the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act, and climbed in bed with George Bush and company. No doubt Obama is attempting to show some strength regarding national security to those of us who know he has none, but he’s sacrificing the very liberals who fell for his dippy promises of hope and change. . .

Keith, being the ever vigilant “journalist” he is, certainly didn’t let Obama’s flip-flop go unremarked at the time. Keith felt that Obama would have a second chance as a senator to fight the good fight against FISA. Rather than condemn Obama’s vote for FISA, Keith tries to figure out how or why Obama would vote for it and how it might be just a play to later gut the bill by the ever-so-clever Obama. Deb Couples wrote about it in Olbermann Tries But Doesn’t Fully Reverse HImself re: Obama’s FISA reversal. (A great piece, if you’re interested, do go and re-read.)

Keith, as usual, is hard to follow in his “special comment.” His main argument seems to be that Obama should not have voted for FISA because the Republicans (enemies of all that is right and good) will use his vote against him no matter what he did. Not much discussion about what this might mean about Obama himself, of course. He does say, around he half-way mark, that even FISA is not as important as getting rid of any Republican in the WH.

Believe it or not, Keith then goes on (around 6:30) to offer a “solution” to Obama. Seriously. Keith is now uber policy wonk. Heh. Clearly Keith thought it his place to help Obama “revise” his position on FISA, kind of a video advisor. Seriously, this part is unbelievable. I’m sure David Axelrod, Rahm Emanuel and BO himself were furiously taking notes.

(This is long and painful to watch.)

But, you know how things go. It’s all prelude to what the Obama administration is asserting NOW. And what does Keith think about a new development from Obama’s DOJ?

Glenn Greenwald, at Salon:

When Congress immunized telecoms last August for their illegal participation in Bush’s warrantless eavesdropping program, Senate Democratic apologists for telecom immunity repeatedly justified that action by pointing out that Bush officials who broke the law were not immunized — only the telecoms.
——-

Taking them at their word, EFF (Electronic Frontier Foundation – ed.) which was the lead counsel in the lawsuits against the telecoms — thereafter filed suit, in October, 2008, against the Bush administration and various Bush officials for illegally spying on the communications of Americans. They were seeking to make good on the promise made by Congressional Democrats: namely, that even though lawsuits against telecoms for illegal spying will not be allowed any longer, government officials who broke the law can still be held accountable.

But late Friday afternoon, the Obama DOJ filed the government’s first response to EFF’s lawsuit (.pdf), the first of its kind to seek damages against government officials under FISA, the Wiretap Act and other statutes, arising out of Bush’s NSA program. But the Obama DOJ demanded dismissal of the entire lawsuit based on (1) its Bush-mimicking claim that the “state secrets” privilege bars any lawsuits against the Bush administration for illegal spying, and (2) a brand new “sovereign immunity” claim of breathtaking scope — never before advanced even by the Bush administration — that the Patriot Act bars any lawsuits of any kind for illegal government surveillance unless there is “willful disclosure” of the illegally intercepted communications.

In other words, beyond even the outrageously broad “state secrets” privilege invented by the Bush administration and now embraced fully by the Obama administration, the Obama DOJ has now invented a brand new claim of government immunity, one which literally asserts that the U.S. Government is free to intercept all of your communications (calls, emails and the like) and — even if what they’re doing is blatantly illegal and they know it’s illegal — you are barred from suing them unless they “willfully disclose” to the public what they have learned.

Greenwald kindly posted pdf files just in case readers thought he was overstating. He wasn’t.

The EFF had this to say:

Friday evening, in a motion to dismiss Jewel v. NSA, EFF’s litigation against the National Security Agency for the warrantless wiretapping of countless Americans, the Obama Administration’s made two deeply troubling arguments.

First, they argued, exactly as the Bush Administration did on countless occasions, that the state secrets privilege requires the court to dismiss the issue out of hand. They argue that simply allowing the case to continue “would cause exceptionally grave harm to national security.” As in the past, this is a blatant ploy to dismiss the litigation without allowing the courts to consider the evidence.

It’s an especially disappointing argument to hear from the Obama Administration. As a candidate, Senator Obama lamented that the Bush Administration “invoked a legal tool known as the ‘state secrets’ privilege more than any other previous administration to get cases thrown out of civil court.” He was right then, and we’re dismayed that he and his team seem to have forgotten.

Sad as that is, it’s the Department Of Justice’s second argument that is the most pernicious. The DOJ claims that the U.S. Government is completely immune from litigation for illegal spying — that the Government can never be sued for surveillance that violates federal privacy statutes.

This is a radical assertion that is utterly unprecedented. No one — not the White House, not the Justice Department, not any member of Congress, and not the Bush Administration — has ever interpreted the law this way.

So, how does Keith deal with this? Well, it’s a story on his countdown, but not a special comment.

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Keith asks what the political calculation is and “who made it.” Well, he had no trouble before figuring out who to blame. But with BO, well, it’s not so clear. Keith’s guest seems to think BO is trying to accommodate (around 3:50 remaining) the “intelligence community,” suggesting that it’s not at all BO’s decision but the “bureaucracy.” He also suggests it’s understandable that a president doesn’t want to give up any power it has accumulated, even if that power came from a hated predecessor. THAT’s completely understandable, not wanting to give up ill-gotten power, after all.

And Keith’s guest also says we shouldn’t forget that Obama’s administration is now the defendant in lawsuits about FISA (around 5:35) and that justifies their position somewhat. Then he throws out the idea that the BO administration won’t “shine a light” on this but will let Congress do it. Of course, THAT’s gonna happen. And probably BO will blame Congress. (Not that there’s anything wrong with THAT.)

So, it’s understandable that BO might want to continue a practice he ran against because now he owns it; it gives him more power and it’s really the fault of the intelligence community and nasty bureaucrats; and really, Congress should do something anyway.

And if you buy that, you deserve to have a picture taken with BO when he wears a t-shirt saying “I’m with Stupid.”

So, what’s the takeaway? Well, if you’re Keith Olbermann, a soul-destroying act by a Republican can be just a power grab because “somebody made me do it” if you’re a Democrat.

Any chance Keith will call BO a fascist?????

  • http://sarainitalyblog.blogspot.com/ American Girl in Italy

    Excellent!

  • Animal Control

    LisaB,
    I like reading your insight on these and other issues but on a personal level I would appreciate it if, when referring to fascism that the capital letter not be used unless speaking of Italian Fascism as my dictionary indicates. It does a disservice to the meaning of the word and is demeaning to Italian people.

  • John Smith

    Is KO really that important that we need to dedicate entire posts about him. Who rally cares if KO said anything. They guy will say anything to stay on the air. It would be best to ignore him.

    • TorchWood

      Agreed. I’m so over him now. Nothing he can do will ever redeem him in my eyes with the exception of donating ab organ to one of my loved ones…

      …and even then I’d still have to think about it.

    • http://sarainitalyblog.blogspot.com/ sarainitaly

      while i agree that KO deserves absolutely NO amount of respect or credibility, and was not in favor of posting anything about him, I think Lisa does a great job in covering the actual issue, AND exposing what a piece of crap and hypocrite KO actually is.

      • Ferd Berfle

        I concur. The views of KO need to be disseminated, if only to ensure that his brand of rubbish gets the full measure of derision it so demonstrably deserves. At one time I actually thought he was a breath of fresh air. It was unfortunate, however, that my sense of smell at the time wasn’t more in tune to the odoriferous excrement it represented.

        By all means, keep posting his bilge. One needs to know what the he and the other automatons are thinking, if for no other reason than to counter their unique way of fracturing the English language, i.e., their manufacturing of bullshit.

    • J.J. (The P.U.M.A.)

      Keith made it into the “final four” of the NoQuarter “A-Hole of the Year Contest”. (He should have won). So, yes, he matters.

      And by the way, Donna Brazille has made a big play to upset Barky for the championship by going on national T.V., watching the video, and then denying that Obama bowed to the Arab guy.

    • Ani

      Actually, I think it is great that LisaB posted this. While no one wants to give KeithO oxygen — it is important to note the about face and hypocrisy here; when they would have been screaming bloody murder (and did) if this had been George Bush. Principles are principles and they are not exclusive to one party or the other.

      This is a prime example of how one side loses all credibility to the other — instead of admitting a mistake, they just keep on drinking the koolaid. The party faithful on both sides do it, thereby alienating those on the fence who might otherwise have taken a hance on sticking a toe in their tent.

      Great job, LisaB.

  • HARP

    Once again, KO proves just how much of a Nethanderal he really is.

    • Ferd Berfle

      Neanderthal? Not really. KO is more akin to a parasite that contributes nothing but takes out of proportion to its contribution.

    • oowawa

      Homo neanderthalensis? No, I don’t think so. Homo something else, perhaps. But certainly not homo sapiens.

      • Ferd Berfle

        KO is more akin to Wile E. Coyote.

        • Ferd Berfle

          Shootus infooticus or tiltus windmillus

  • Teresaa

    I like this. Greenwald played Olbermann’s actions as if they were anti-Obama. When I actually watched the segment (online, I want nothing to do with Olbermann otherwise), it was obviously one of those Faux News apologistic propagandistic staged discussions, made to look like semi-outrage, but nothing more than a way to help people “understand” the administration.

    Man is this Olbermann guy ever a POS.

  • creeper

    It never ceased to amaze me that the Bush administration aggregated such overwhelming powers in the White House. Didn’t it ever occur to them that they might one day be turning it over to a Democrat?

    The bottom line is that Barack Obama is even more power-hungry than George W. Bush ever thought of being. What a perfect setup for him. Someone else had already done all the work to establish the monarchy. Obama only needed to be crowned.

    Oh, there’s one more bottom line…Olbermann is a tool.

    • Ferd Berfle

      It never ceased to amaze me that the Bush administration aggregated such overwhelming powers in the White House. Didn’t it ever occur to them that they might one day be turning it over to a Democrat?

      The Bush Administration and members of Congress on both sides either were too stupid to understand that simple fact or didn’t care. I would surmise that they did not consider that someone from the opposition would someday take charge having powers identical to those of their own man. I don’t know how the electorate does it in this country, but we always seem to be able to find the lowest-common denominator in those we elect to office. Most of these buffoons couldn’t hold down a full-time job anywhere other than in political office. We’re screwed.

    • leslie

      I believe that not only is Olbermann a tool… Obama is a bigger tool.

      It is my goals to not get fooled again. By again I mean that I was fooled once by Olbermann when I, too thought him a “breath of fresh air”. (h/t Ferd Berfle)

      Obama not so much.

      • leslie

        goal NOT “goals”

  • I’m a Linda too

    Great post Lisa b

    And while I was amused and enjoyed Keith’s first Obama realization, it surely didn’t go far enough from HIM…and was only the first in a huge list already ignored by him.

    Which does also does not take away in any way Keith’s previous outrageous koolaid drinking and sexist tirades.

  • arran

    sarahinitaly and LisaB–As much as I am impressed with your articles, I agree with some here that we learned what KO was back in the primary and discard anything he says. He needs to return to baseball broadcasting.

    • I’m a Linda too

      …and he’s outta here! lol

    • http://sarainitalyblog.blogspot.com/ sarainitaly

      trust me, hearing KO’s voice activates my gag reflex. I get ill when his commercials come on, or I am accidently subjected to his voice. I loathe him. He will never, ever deserve an audience from me.

  • yttik

    Nice post Lisa.

    I wish his head had really spun around 360 and he spewed green stuff. Then we could have called a priest and performed an exorcism to get rid of all his vile misogyny.

  • ChooChooMagoo

    Well done LisaB. Excellent post.

    I was seriously disappointed in G. Greenwald. He gives KO way too much credit for not ignoring it. KO routinely vilifies people whose impact on our lives is less than zero. But when this president rips apart our civil rights, KO plays the mild mannered reporter and gets congratulated for bringing it up.

  • http://syd4.blogspot.com Stray Yellar Dawg

    Keith-0 is responding to the only language he understands:

    http://syd4.blogspot.com/2009/04/keith-0-responds-to-only-language-he.html

    The one where O’Reilly is squashing him like a bug.

  • Scranton4Hillary

    I detest KO after his day in-day out disrespectful and negatively biased treatment of Hillary. He’s one of the reasons that Big Arse is in the White House. Too little too late me thinks.
    I will certainly forgive his stupidity but never will I absolve him of his biased and mean-spirited nature. He can’t help being stupid but he choose to be nasty and mean.

    • ame

      The problem with KO is the fact that he became emotionally involved in an election and used his position in the media to influence a nation and tilt the scale in favor of his candidate; in other words, he used the media to push his agenda.

      He is a disgrace.

  • Patience

    The self-righteous KO was banished from our home close to a year ago. It must be a huge challenge for him to continually rationalize the consequences of having championed such a lying, incompetant, unprincipled puppet like the POTUS.

  • Diana L. C.

    The problem with KO is that he’s still a sports reporter. I know many here do follow sports, but to me “Es macht nichts!” which team wins or loses as far as the world situation is concerned. KO is still rooting for his “home team” but trying to appear objective. How did a sports reporter get to be where he is in regard to political coverage?

    Oh, I forgot. This is America where everything is as important as everything else.

  • arran

    Stray Yellar Dawg–Thanks for the 5p to 11p news ratings. First rated FNC (Fox News) is killing MSNBC still in the ratings. O’Reilly rules…not that I watch any of these shows very much.

  • oowawa

    tiltus windmillus

    Yes Ferd, good one: he IS something like Don Quixote–though I can’t see him fighting for the honor of any ladies. And his Sancho Panza? Howard Fineman, perhaps.

    • Ferd Berfle

      You’re right, he is the genus-species, brownus proboscis

  • mountainaires

    Yeah, Keith Olbermann is no Ed Murrow. He’s a pathetic apologist and a rank hypocrite, doing precisely what the Republicans did with G.W. Bush for 7 years–stick their noses right up his sorry ass and make sucking sounds.

    You’re sickening Olbermann. Get a real job, and quit wasting air space with your drivel.

  • leslie

    I used to actually worry about KO’s safety as he “special commented” about Bush and his henchmen.
    Little did I know that as soon as he had a person of intelligence to support (Hillary) he’d join forces with “worse than Bush” in order to continue to feel superior.
    Like Patience @10:18:34, Olbermann was banned from my teevee along with MSNBC, CNN, and local (chicago,il) tv stations. It was just too much to report the truth. Really, the coverage of even the first debates was so biased, I wondered if I had seen the same event. This never changed.

    I have more thoughts that I’ll share when they are more relevant to the discussion.

    • ame

      “worse than Bush”
      Yeah, I never thought that in my life time it could get any worse than Bush, as far as presidents go and it did. Those who can’t see this are blind.

      • http://noquarter foxyladi14

        he makes BUSH look good..
        whoda thunkit??????

  • jbjd

    This is a great post. Of course, most of us here will never watch MSNBC again, no matter what. (I would imagine that a good portion of readers will not even watch the linked videos.) But for his viewers who hear the contradiction in his edicts; and for those readers who do credit his tirades, this post clearly and succinctly points to his double standard. Hopefully, this will cause them to re-think the viewpoints expressed here and on other blogs in opposition to the caliber of ‘news’ from the MSM, and, perhaps for the first time, instead of dismissing those views outright, re-visit those comments, this time, for substance.

  • Glennmcgahee

    I guess thank you is in order for telling us about KO. But what did we expect? Its NBC, otherwise known as General Electric Corporate Broadcasting. I don’t watch anything on NBC or MSNBC. Its blocked on my TV.As for the news in general, its almost the same. They want to pit the Dems against the Republicans like its a football game and we’re spectators rooting for our team. The country, especially the more mature citizens, can see right through all this. But the young are just starting to pay attention and act like we’ve never seen this stuff before. Both parties suck.

  • AX10

    I don’t like anyone at MSNBC (Most Certainly Nothing But Crap).

  • JozefAL

    Lisa, I’m not quite getting the “340°” part. Do you mean that Olbermann changed his mind from a previous position? If so, that’s a 180° change. Or, do you mean that Olbermann changed his position, then changed it back? If so, that’s a 360° change. A “340°” change would mean he completely reversed a previous position, then ALMOST went back to that earlier view.
    Yes, it’s a nitpick but it kept nagging at me while I read the story.

    • JozefAL

      BTW, if the title is edited, please feel free to delete the above post (and this one as well).

    • LisaB

      Nah. I mean he was ALMOST back to blaming the president. Almost. Not quite 360. . .

  • DAB

    In addition to Glen Greenwald’s comments about Obama’s secrecy, Slate.com also has an article by Bruce Fein in this same vein called Czar Obama.
    http://www.slate.com/id/2215818/

    The appears that some in this world are starting to notice the obvious power grab — transparency MY FOOT!

  • CamdenRave

    I used to like Olberman but now I have no tolerance for anyone who I suspect may not have voted for Hillary.

  • catherine

    Keith was unavailable for further comment as he was gargling 0′s little marbles.

    • Ferd Berfle

      LMAO

  • arran

    catherine, do you mean KO was “tea-bagging” 0?

  • TeakwoodKite

    Thanks LisaB. The story is BO and FISA not KO, but you do a great job shine a light on both.

    What a manipulated tool KO is. BO voted for FISA as Senator and still they voted for him for POTUS.

    And now?

  • NoBamaNoWay

    KO gives whores a bad name.

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