Why Obama’s Bow Faux Pas Matters

Larry,

I agree with you. It also sends a message that we are naive and ignorant.

“Obama is about the high road?” ROFLMAO! Larry, your anger was justified and good for you! I’m still very distraught about the bow. And scared for America.

Interesting Exchange Larry..

Considering that You Stay focused on President Obamas background and knwn Associates…I would say you are RIGHT to Lecture those HUMANIST who cant wait for the Age of Enlightenment and believe that Obama is the prophet leading the way to Paradise..

So did Jim Jones followers..Lessons Learned..

Happy Easter larry…Thats One Message I Can Believe in..

If we do nothing else here at NQ, I hope we can simply get people to realize BO is a POLITICIAN. Not a light bringer. Not superbly enlightened. Not better than everyone else. He’s a successful politician and man.

Anything else is conjecture and/or creative packaging.

omg! is pv for real? how sad that for a man who claims to be so worldly, he is still so stupid. i actually got nauseated when he wrote “And, he is at a higher level of awareness and consciousness than any leader since Gandhi.” for those of us who can see through people like obama, it is very insulting to the intelligence, but, i would just consider the source larry and let him live in his world of airy fairy land. he is not worth your energy anymore. but, good for you that you told him the truth and said your peace! go larry!

Poor BO. He can`t even get this right.

Bowing to other human beings is frowned upon in Muslim cultures as all human beings are considered equal and bowing is only supposed to be done to God in Islam. Similarly, in Judaism the second of the Ten Commandments is generally interpreted to forbid bowing before anyone but God.

CAPTAIN PHILLIPS HAS BEEN FREED….!!!

Pirates Killed…!!

Hear, hear Larry!

“Higher level of consciousness and awareness”? This creepy, worshipful apologia is irrational and unreasonable on its face and for which a ‘reasonable minds can differ’ approach is simply not acceptable.

Also, your more ahem “mature” replies were . . . hilarious. I laughed out loud, literally. Thanks for the chuckle.

Agreed, Larry. bho the fraud is just that, a fraud, and will use any means necessary, as the weak do, to undermine our nation, our principles and our people.

I am still horrified that so many lazy Americans hooked on consumerism, American Idol and false prophet movies/TV/video games, didn’t bother to vet this moron trespassing in OUR WH.

The “awakening” of who Obama really is, is going to be extremely painful for many people. Until then, do not give up the good fight Larry.

Is there ANY area of policy, foreign or domestic, wherein Obama’s administration is not inducing moral hazard? Seriously.

It’s a case or “Who are you going to believe me, or your lying eyes?” Like the Gordon Brown gift faux pas, the result of laziness or a don’t give a damn attitude.

i wonder where are next “generated” attack to our country will come from? it’s probablly around the corner too. since he is on a mission to undermine our country at such FULL speed!

Mr. Greene is wrong in so many directions that I commend you for even attempting to call them to his attention. I would’ve never had the patience to begin to debate him.

I wanted to relate an incident in my own life that bolsters your view and demonstrates that most of the rest of the world sees “kindness” as weakness.

My husband’s parents were both born in mainland China. Althought they’ve been in this country since they were young adults, they are still very traditional in their thinking. When I first met them, I brought a nice hostess gift, I offered to help with the meal, and after the visit I sent a polite Thank You note.

I learned later that they contacted my now husband to ask what was wrong with me. Was I simple-minded? Why would I do such things? I was stunned since I’d only tried to be polite and deferential. My husband explained that our manners are considered a sign of weakness in Chinese culture.

I just heard!
This is great great news!!!

BO better not take credit.

Not mention a Saudi Judge has upheld the marrage of an 8 year old girl, it has been one mis-step after another with BO.

Speaking of dogs, who names their Dog ‘Bo’ I thought only bitter god fearin white folk did that.??? What I want to know is when will BO roll over for Bo?

buenudo?

I just wish someone had asked how many “short” people did Obama “bow” to during the primary campaign. Certainly, the Saudi king isn’t so short compared to Obama* that Obama had to make such a dramatic effort to shake his hand. Maybe if the Saudi king stood 3’6″, a “bow” might be acceptable, though perhaps considered a bit condescending from the king’s view, things would be different.
I stand 5’8″ but, if I were to meet Yao Ming (who stands 7’6″), I think my arm has sufficient length to be able to extend upwards to meet his without his needing to “bow” to me. Now, if either of us were to want to say something without everyone else overhearing (and weren’t able to simply leave the area), he’d have to “bow” to me, but for an ordinary little chat, I can’t imagine any reason for a “bow”.

*While checking to see if I could find King Abdullah’s height (not that I really expected to), I did find a picture of him with Dubya. According to Wiki, Dubya is 5’11″ and Obama is 6’1½”. The picture showed Abdullah to be just a couple of inches shorter than Dubya (the very top of Abdullah’s head appears to reach the middle of Dubya’s forehead, and Abdullah’s eyes appear to line up to Dubya’s nose). Since Obama is just over 2″ taller, the whole “Abdullah is short, so Obama had to bow down” thing is nothing but another piece of fiction from Team Obama. Incidentally, just to put this all in perspective, HRH Elizabeth II of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland stands a majestic 5’4″. Where was Obama’s deep bow to her?

I have to wonder when the DEA will be paying PV a visit. Those emails exhibit a level of deification that Jim Jones could have only dreamed of.

I cannot teach you violence, as I do not myself believe in it. I can only teach you not to bow your heads before any one even at the cost of your life.

Mahatma Gandhi quote

So much for that argument….

PV needs to brush up on his prescribed pack of lies talking points from The Changeling’s Chief of Staff.

His choices are:

A) ‘He was bowing to pick up a piece of trash’ (mark that item ‘done’ since first date with Mozilla)

B) ‘He was greeting someone shorter than him’ Uhhh – I’ll leave that to the imagination (note to self: find out approximate height of Larry Sinclair)

C) He was deferring to the Monica Lewinski On-Line Crash Course: ‘Chapter 1 – You’ve Only Got 30 Seconds – How to Impress World Leaders’ OOPS! Sorry – that one is still classified…

How can anyone who excuses behavior based on

He doesn’t play by the same old rules that we are used to seeing in Washington and in international diplomacy.

be taken seriously. Those “old rules’ PV speaks of are our Constitution and they can can not be changed at the whim of some appointed caretaker. His oath of allegiance is to “…faithfully execute the Office of President of the United States and will, to the best of my Ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States” NOT change it nor interpret it to benefit other nation aggressors.

The “bow”, also known as the genuflection, the knotow, obeisance, is not the quality to pick to indicate “Gandhi like leadership” because Soertoro/Obama is all abut materialism while Gandhi gave up every material thing.

Barry once again shows the world he is completely clueless as to how to do the job he brazenly stole from Hillary.

His bow was the equivalent of hanging a sign on his rear end saying –

Oh mighty Jew hating–Women suppressing King…I am beneath you and lower my self with eyes cast downward before you.

What a terrible message to send to Women and Jewish people!

That bow ought to be worth more than the $80B needed to fight the wars and the Saudis ought to pony it up.

Thank you, Larry, for fighting the good fight. Bringing a bit of common sense to the Obot world is a thankless task but at least you tried. Comparing Obama to Gandhi just makes my stomach turn.

What disturbs me most about the bow is this. We are a republic. We do not recognize kings. Obama is the leader of our republic. Obsequiousness toward kings is an insult to our history. Perhaps I am going over the heads of most Obots.

The second thing that disturbs me is the country Abdullah is king of. A Saudi judge has just upheld the marriage of an eight year old girl to an old man to settle her father’s debts!!!!! This crap happens all the time over there. Women can’t drive, women can’t vote! How can any self-respecting American woman defend Obama’s action?

Gandhi? Get real. Obama couldn’t even help the folks in public housing in his own backyard in Chicago.

Rezko got millions. Obama got a mansion. The folks in public housing? Nada.

Gandhi would have never allowed such a thing to happen. Gandhi stood up for the poor and downtrodden. Obama has no history of doing that.

Also, Gandhi never trashed his own country unlike Obama who dismissed Americans as ‘arrogant’.

What is wrong with these people?

Maybe he was checking if the King has a zipper!

Do you get more enlightened in proportion to the pigment in your skin?

I loved the story of Truman and MacArthur. Besides his out-of-line dispatches, MacArthur left Truman sitting on the tarmac waiting, no doubt the final straw in MacArthur getting fired.
Truman said he didn’t give a damn what anyone thought of him personally but you didn’t do that to the President of the United States.

It’s the Office, not the person. Obama doesn’t get it, and apparently neither do a lot of people.

Mr Greene and PV are superficial fools and intellectual snobs without question. I wonder if PV is a Harvard graduate.

The line … “And, he is at a higher level of awareness and consciousness than any leader since Gandhi.”, stuck in my craw too. I don’t recall ever reading or seeing or hearing that Gandhi did any bowing or scraping to anyone. It’s interesting too that Obama can have such profound awareness of every country on earth but his own. During the campaign, he didn’t even know what city he was in half the time; he had 10,000 people wiped out by a tornado in Kansas, and dismissed a large portion of this country as bitter, white, and rural and beyond redemption.

Too bad, Mr Greene and Pv, but the color of Obama’s skin and his middle name really don’t measure up to the legacy of Mohatma Gandhi and really are not sufficient qualification to be a LEADER of the AMERICAN people.

Larry Johnson comments seem quite restrained to me.

“But the truth is that we are all missing the point and continuing to not understand the “high road” that IS Barack Obama.”

ROFLMAOOAOA

Uh yeah right. We talkin’ about Barry Obama, bud? Gee, we see how far YOU’RE willing to bend over.

Mr. Condescending? Mr. Arrogant? That’s the guy you want to claim takes the high road? The same guy who shoots his middle Finga “to the law”, but in his case was whome he was talking about, Hillary?

WHO ARE YOU KIDDING Mr. Green? Better yet, why don’t you share some of that stuff you must be ingesting to be able to swallow such delusions.

On second thought, I like living in the real world and don’t care to have to drink the koolaid because I can’t deal with how embarrassing this loser is that I promoted to be president as you are clearly doing.

Which is too why I stopped listening to your station over a year ago.

Oh and pssst, Mr Green, if you want to claim this was an obvious and planned act of respect (a leader bowing to another countries leader is not a sign of respect)by Weary Barry, TELL BARRY, they are still denying HE BOWED. lmao

I don’t see any “profound awareness” of other countries. Obama thinks they speak “Austrian” in Austria? What this means to me is he knows zilch, zero, nada about Europe and European history. Wasn’t he supposed to be chair of the European subcommittee of the Foreign Affairs committee? (Does anyone think Hillary Clinton does not know what language is spoken in Austria?)

That’s the part that knocked me back too. The part about Obummer being like Ghandi. Ghandi cared about the ones with the least not the ones with the most. He genuinely wanted to make life better for others, and risked his life, and prison, on many occasions to do so. No way Obummer is in the same league as Ghandi. Next thing that twit PV will be saying is that Obummer has achieved nirvana and is now equal with the Buddha as a pure soul. Total crap, complete and total crap. That PV person is delusional. Very delusional. Someone should get him to a doctor as soon as possible.

All you needed to do was paste this:

“And, he is at a higher level of awareness and consciousness than any leader since Gandhi.”

and I would have read all I needed to from him. That about sums up where he is coming from. haha

Although, it was quite entertaining reading your dialogue with green penis.

rofl DEFINITELY!

Larry,

You are 100% right!

My experience did not come from living in Saudi Arabia – it came from, having THEM living and studying in a college in NH.

Beginning in the 1980′s George H.W. Bush was giving out foreign student Visa’s as if they were penny candy. By the end of the 80′s Bush One had even hired an agent to recruit Mid-Easterners for colleges whose ratings were above the first 75 in ranking.

Our first group was 95 Saudi Princes. As with most American’s we were “nice” and forgave because they were from a different culture. Needless to say they definitely took it as weakness-and the entire 5,200 student population was negatively affected. The Saudi Princes, lied constantly, cheated, started extra-legal businesses from breaking into staff offices and stealing diskettes with student papers, or they had a small contingent of the lesser princes doing their papers. There were even four rapes.

Fortunately, before the first term ended, we called around to the “Big” colleges. Columbia University had compiled the most information. They informed us:

1. NEVER EVER let the Arabs forget who is in charge at the college and in classes.

2. If a story sounds strange, check to see if it is cultural, and if not lower the boom.

3. Respect their religious practices, and eating preferences, but NEVER let them become too familiar with you. (Most thought it “KEWL” to wear American clothes after the first month – so that was not an issue).

4. Say what you mean and mean exactly what you say, spelling out specific consequences.

5. Try and keep them segregated from the other on-campus students. Again, not an issue as they preferred to be together and not with Americans.

6. Have an International Student Center, with “qualified” staff who knew what the heck they were doing. We always had a PhD – but that was NOT the criteria for hiring – experience and knowledge were the main things we sought.

Since we had already botched it – and had been told even more were coming the second semester – we had to become hard asses overnight. That confused them, as well as their American classmates. It was an extremely stressful semester for both students and staff.

To compensate, we started “International Week” for the beginning of May each year, where the students could explain their customs, and share their food not only with people at the college, but also the community at large. Mid week there was a “fair” where everyone could come and look and buy artifacts from their home countries. The climax was a modified “Minstrel Show” on the last night of the week, with a dinner of foods from around the world. After, the students would sing, dance, play in a band with their unique instruments, speak or do short skits related to their home countries.

The following semester started rough as word had gotten back to the Mid East, that American were pushovers. That ceased fairly quickly, and after that the discipline problems declined dramatically.

Now on to some of PV’s statements which say volumes about him:

Larry, please do not lecture me on this. I have lived abroad and given communication seminars in 26 countries including in Egypt, Kuwait and Israel.

PV was a “visiting Professor” and his “seminars” were optional and not required- at least for under grads. PV obviously was housed on or near campuses. His interaction with mainstream people was limited and he never understood that the Mid East has hard and fast rules on how guests are treated (extremely well), vs. foreign residents or even the extreme roughness between social classes with their own people.

The question here becomes WHY did PV travel so much and his neglecting to mention his US based HOME college is of concern. Either he was retired, and chose that way to feed his enormous ego, or he was avidly scanning “The Chronicle of Higher Education” just to get a position anywhere.

Larry, please don’t email me again. I don’t appreciate the unrelenting ad hominim attacks. And your ability to read is obviously at the level of your ability to absorb new ideas. I did not say “higher than Ghandhi”

Larry did not regurgitate to word “Level” after “higher” back to him. As a “teacher” he lectures from notes or reads to his students from a book. Interactive discussion would be frowned on – and his marking would be predicated on how well you fed his own words back to him. It is almost understandable where PV’s weak ego, and lack of willingness to do some work to make classes participatory, would lead him to support Obama who also has a weak ego and extraordinarily un-earned high opinion of himself.

Pretty basic 6th grade reading comprehension. Read what I wrote, dude, and take a fuckin’ chill pill.

“How dare you speak to me, a PhD that way”! (And I cannot refute the points you made, so I will just use normal scathing Academia put downs so that I, the better of the two, have the final word.

Eviscerating your opponent is almost SOP if you cannot answer a line of reasoning, or you want to denigrate your opponent as unworthy of even a glance from you, who is, of course, higher in the social hierarchy.

Finally, PV is one of those elitists, unconnected to the real world. University are notorious for tossing around great theories, and frankly it can be fun too. However, PV has little if any experience in or of the “Real World” outside of the halls of a University/College. I would say not a pragmatic bone in his body

One last comment on PV’s remarks:

I’m not talking about gentleness. I’m talking about a basic, primal human need called acknowledgement. Impossible to have peace without it. Respect is one form of acknowledgement.

acknowledgement is lletting anoter no by word or gesture, that you recieved and understood what they were trying to communicate.

Respect – is just the golden rule of treating others as you wan to be treated. You can show respect to someone from OUter Mongolia w/o comprehending a word they are syaing, by patiently listening, and showing by body language you value them.

BOWING – is subjugation or subservience to another.

PV obviously has risen to a position, in his own mind, that no longer requires a precise use and definition of words. Really dangerous behavior when dealing with people whose native language is NOT English. Can really cause serious communication problems and mis-understandings.

Terrific news Patrick. Thanks for letting us know.

Ivory tower, anyone?

PV has given a huge glimpse into the world of an obot. Disconnected doesn’t begin to cover it.

Wanna’ hear the funniest thing? I couldn’t remember which brother was Richard Greene, the DJ of “Hollywood Clout” or the silent one who runs AAR. He is the one who got his own show for an hour, Hollywood Clout. No doubt his show name is sharing how he got it, “I’m the owner, I get my own show”…”I have clout”. lol

Anyhoo, when going to their site to confirm which Greene it was, they have I noted on the left side of their front page an area called “Wing Nuts”. It doesn’t say Right Wing Nuts, just Wing Nuts. So why in the world while we are discussing and extreme lefty wing nut is his picture not on their own front Page?

So, they left off all lefty wing nuts photos, including the owners, even though they aren’t claiming the wing nuts were just the righties.

Pot, kettle, anyone, Bueller?

All of the spiritually oriented people, new age, sufi, etc in this country also believe Obama is a higher consciousness. I have stopped attending most events here where I live that are spiritually oriented because they always have to say something about Obama. Just today I left a chant and meditation because, get this, the leader (who is a follower of Rumi and sufis) said we were doing the first chant for “the first Muslim President of the US, Barack Hussein Obama.” He kind of laughed after he said the thing about Obama being Muslim, but I found it terribly offensive and there is no way I was going to chant for him. They are all projectig onto Obama their hopes and dreams…they are in for a rude awakening, that is if they ever awaken, which I am starting to doubt they ever will, at least not in this town. I have tried to talk to them about this, but they think they, and Obama, are “the revolution” and we are heading toward nirvana under his tutelage. Yikes..

Yikes indeed!

I think he bowed to kiss the King’s ring. To me that is obvious. But, only the people standing right there, and the King and Obama, can testify to that. Kissing the ring, to me, is that he was acknowledging a muslim leader because I now believe Obama is a muslim.

The comment that Obama made in Turkey about Muslims in America and then the bow to the Saudi King makes me think that Obama leans toward Islam and the Muslim world. His remarks in France about America being arrogant, etc. reinforces my gut feelings of his Islamic persuasion.

A muslim who in fact disgraces what is the heart and soul of Islam.

LJ, could you elaborate?

I had a political epiphany during the Easter Vigil last night- a very mystically beautiful but ceremonial and ritualized service in Catholic and Orthodox traditions- as I watched children turn to their parents for positive re-enforcement and encouragement when they recited a prayer correctly from memory, or remembered when to stand or kneel without being reminded. That was the same exact behavior we witnessed with Barky. “See? See? I learned my religious lessons in Indionesia. Aren’t I a good boy? I can say the muslim call to prayer from heart and I know to who and when to bow. Aren’t you proud of me!” Someone needs to tell Barky he is not a little boy and we are not his parents.

yep. Larry schooled him good, though. i’ve heard a lot of Obot lunacy, but i was even a little bit taken aback by this guy’s insane messiah worship.

Thanks for trying Larry. But PV’s head is firmly planted up his derriere and he seems illogically content with that. A bow is not a sign of “respect” but more a show of submission and subservience. Obama’s bow, or horizontal “handshake” or whatever he wants to rename it was a disgrace plain and simple.

That is probably why he used both hands as even Gibbsie stated.

That is the only time I’ve seen two hands used to [shake-NOT] one’s hand. To lift the the hand up to kiss.

Kudos Puma for Life.

Puma, I’ve run into the same thing in my community. One former friend, an Astrologer, claimed that Ofraudo’s chart says he’s a Guru. Vomit.

Well, there are a lot of “Guru’s” with true believer followers found to be frauds so if that’s the case then I suppose, yes. I’d say he’s closer to Jim Jones than Ghandi.

or just plain ignorance of manners and protocol and enough arrogance to believe that anything that comes from you is going to be OK…just as it is with his followers. He does believe his own press, after all.

She’s simply an old white woman with a lot of money to him…only deserving of a slight nod of the head. Actually, he didn’t even have to do that. Not sure about MEchille as she isn’t an elected official. She was certainly out of line.

how come no one is asking why most of the people in the room seem to be laughing or smiling while watching 0bama bow to the king.

He continually confirms what he’s told us before. In one of his books, didn’t he say that when all is said and done (I’m paraphrasing here) he’d choose Islam over others. When someone tells you who they are, believe it.

you were too kind to him Larry. he didn’t deserve it.
PV deserves a good slap for that shameful lack of street sense. hard to believe he’s lived outside the country. he should spend some time in New York to learn how things work, or even Slim’s hometown of Chicago.

I think the bowing is important for a reason no one has mentioned so far – it is a forceful symbol of alignment with the Saudis – the king’s enemies are now our enemies. Most of them probably were already, I realize. But this is one more completely unnecessary complication added because the president either did not know protocol, failed to follow protocol, or actually wants to be favored by the Saudis. If he had followed protocol and maintained his rank the alignment would not appear quite so blatant.

“And, he is at a higher level of awareness and consciousness than any leader since Gandhi.” PV definitely still high on Koolaid and Hopium.

The bow, which what it was, would not be a big issue as if you say, it would have been acknowledged as such from the get go. Instead denial. The GOP will be replaying that vid demonstrating his subservience at election time non stop.

Obama’s dramatic display of subservience to the Islamic religion really makes me want to know everything there is to know about his travels to Pakistan, where it seems that those who want to be radicalized go for training at about the same age Obama was when he went there.

Having watched tha video numerous times, one thing that struck me was how surprised the King looked initially. Sort of like “I wasn’t expecting this and why are you doing it?” He recovered and didn’t make a big deal out of it, but I bet he was thinking what a dumb greenhorn you are kid and thanks because you just made my day. We now know what the Pres. of the USA is made of. I can’t help but believe the King first laughed to himself and afterwards told his aides etc. that we have a muslim brother in the WH who forgets/denies what he is supposed to represent. Score one for us.

I am not going to even get into the Ghandi reference, because that is so utterly absurd. It immediately reveals that he knows absolutely nothing about Obama’s hypocrisy, narcissism, and arrogant, snide behavior.

The other point is that he mentions that we must transcend the level of dog-like behavior. Excuse me, Naive Silly Man, but the rest of the world doesn’t give a damn about your “we are the world” nonsense. There are people out there that will behead and disembowel nuns. They DO behave on a primitive level, and could care less about your new age fantasies. This kumbaya crap Obama has been peddling is very dangerous. And no lurking Obots, that does not automatically mean we endorse Bush’s crazed cowboy behavior and support a complete lack of diplomacy. There is an intelligent balance, as most other presidents have known.

Especially because he pandered to Evangelical Christians during the primaries and GE, and was furious at any mention of his Muslim background.

wow. well, you did the right thing, anyway.

didn’t they just give up slavery (officially, anyway) in the ’60s? *19*60s, that is.

word.

Larry, I am so glad you were the one responding to this idiot P.V. You were quite cordial, I think, because I don’t think I could have been as nice as you were.

His communications lectures must cause all kinds of snarking and laughing during the breaks. I can see it now, the canned feel-good, I-have-the-answer-to-all-the-worlds’-problems type I’ve been subjected to occasionally. Management decides the organization needs a morale boost and needs to boost its employees’ willingness to buy in to the organization’s “culture” and to become full members of its “team.” Rather than really digging in and actually experiencing what their employees do on a day-to-day basis and then actually MANAGE, they decide to spend a fortune on a seminar that they make everyone attend. They’re so sure they are such enlightened managers already that they do not understand what real asses they are to many of their employees and what a joke most of their employees think the seminar is.

I am sure the POTUS would really like his seminar, too, having no real work experience or management experience before his amazing success at gaming the election.

Bart, there are some of us who actually like Obama and respect him and do not regard him as a fraud, cheater, liar or pig. A politician, yes and I guess there is not much we can do about that but try to understand why politicians do what they do, which includes some very dubious actions and words from time to time. Show me one who is different?

What we don’t think is that Obama is superbly enlightened as you say – and its getting so tedious to continually be called a kool-aid drinker or worshipper. There are reasons we support the President, really!

Knowing I will be called an evil stupid troll with no brain, I still can’t help myself – you are all that shallow that I can’t let the opportunity to give it to you over and over – to keep showing your foul nature.

Ellen…Why exactly do you think your rah rah Fraud rhetoric is going to be appreciated here? And why do we have to agree with you? We don’t. He is a fraud, liar, cheater and a pig. We have proven that over and over and over again. We do so with documents, videos, articles, editorials, etc. that are intelligent, researched and articulate. You just come around and tell us we are wrong and how fabulous he is. Why? Based on what exactly? He’s doing a shit job and even my most inebriated on Kool Aid friends, like you, have changed their tune. I have had apologies from many people who doubted me prior to the election, who now wish they had their votes back. Most of them (including me) can’t believe how fast he is sending this country straight to hell. My ex boyfriend told me two days ago that he is in shock…never, ever did he think Obama would be THIS BAD. This coming from a man who told me “don’t worry about it, he’s a joke but if you turn off your tv and don’t read the paper for four years it will be over.” Now, he is moving out of the country himself. My co-worker and her brother, both of whom said I was crazy for how I felt, are also moving out of the country together. They got dual citizenship and will be leaving June 1st. I’m thinking of it too. Most of my mother’s friends have left for Toronto, Vancouver, etc., and have taken their money with them. My mother wants to go to Toronto herself. No one I know thinks he is doing a good job. No one. So you can either respect how we feel, based on performance, or you can keep trying to endlessly beat a dead horse because nothing you say supports that he is doing anything but spending money like a drunken sailor and embarrassing this country to no end all over the world. Period.

Larry

Right on!

“Bowing to a racist, Jew-hating, sexist monarch” is not going to help Western diplomacy. It was clearly very demeaning for his country, yet Obamyopia took this historically ignominious bow and erased the dignity of his country with his dumb curtsy…

Periodically, Obama feels down and starts launching his bows with racist, sexist monarchs to boost his appeal…

But please try to be gentle with your e-mailing buddy, Larry! He’s just another punch-drunk Special Olympics runner…

Be kind. Be gentle. Bow low. Respect Racism. REspect Jew-hate. Respect Sexist Monarchs. Please, Larry. You must see the folly of your ways.
Hell, Obama should apologize for this gross diplomatic misdemeanour! What a grovelling, sneaky little jerk…he thought he’d escape public scrutiny!..

I also liked what you had to say about Iraq which was fair and reasonable. Barack boy did promise to get the troops out. He flip-flopped.
Barack said he believed in Diplomacy and Development–not military power. He said this to CBC’s Peter Mansbridge the day before his visit to Ottawa (sorry he thought it was Iowa!!!) Canada. Guess what? Just a few hours earlier the lying punch-drunk thug from Chicago’s political sewers had given orders for 20,000 troops to land in Afganistan! Now, is this what the moron Totus calls promoting Development and Diplomacy and not military solutions???Shame on Barack.

Tuppence 411

Everyone should read your comment here at No Quarter and learn exactly what Obama appeared to be doing. Yes, indeed. In Eastern Orthodox (Ukrainian Orthodox, Russian Orthodox, Greek Orthodox) tradition children bow after humbly reciting their scripts, etc. They seek the approval of their parents or elders for “a job well done”. But this is the goddam Prez of a nation that others look to for example. It’s American money that built the Saudi State of Sexism and Racism and Oppression!

Read the memoirs of ‘I was an ECONOMIC HITMAN’ to udnerstand how the CIA and Washington started assisting these lowlifes building their country up from the sand!

You’re very astute….I always knew ever since Hillary was forced out of the primary that a Child Prez, immature and arrogant as a 14-year-old testosterone-loaded teenager, would take the office! And that’s no Fairy Tale either! ‘Tis a Fact! Zeus help us….
Barack will allow Washington to become the second Constantinopole–now called Istanbul by the bloody Turks who uprooted the Orthodox/Byzantine civilization there to build neanderthal mosques…

fif

You’re great. It’s that INTELLIGENT BALANCED approach that’s totally lacking in Clueless Immature Barack and was absolutely lacking in Cowboy nerdy-Macho Bush.

Obama = Other side of the Bush Coin of Incompetence

Stupidity and Immature Arrogance/Servility

Anthony

What the hell does Monica Lewinsky have to do with anything here? No relevance unless you’re trying to smear someone who’s levels higher than Bush and Barack….and we all know what happened. You got a real winner instead!

Bush = Obama (other side of the same coin of incompetence, arrogance and immaturity)
You can’t call Clinton this can you? Regardless of his indiscretions. And you most certainly cannot attribute these epithets to Hillary.

ritamary

Obama should KISS THE SAUDI SEXIST ASS and bend facing his posterior to accomplish such devout to his muslim religion task.

Obama’s a SAUDI ASS-KISSER! WHAT A JERK THE exDEMOCRATIC PARTY GOT ITSELF FOR PREZ!! aren’t they ashamed?

You would NEVER see HILLARY taking a bow. The woman had dignity to spare for herself and the country she loved to serve….bunch of assholes cheated the competent intelligent woman out of the race that was hers.

Hope the BoboBots enjoy the ride DOWN the Saudis’ asses….their heads are buried in the sand….

I noticed that he and Michelle both gave the Queen a double-handed handshake. I think it’s a Chicago or street thing. I think it’s definitely too “familiar” and casual for him to be using it with foreign heads of state, unless they’re good friends.

Portia, cultural differences aside, bowing to Abdullah was not an act of kindness. Obama seems to be enjoying the servitude of those around him and the material advantages of being president. How many of us would have the “audacity” to order a cook from over eight hundred miles away to make pizza no matter the state of the economy. Tickets to b-ball games, having a make up artist travel with you, using air force one to travel to Chicago for a “date” with our mates is not Gandhi like. How odd that Ellen and PV are now explaining the bow they assured us didn’t happen last week, but this has happened with so many things he has done. Ellen assures us he is a politician and when we said the same thing before the election she and others said he was more and different. There is something to fear in his actions. Not that there is an inherent evil, but because he is so intent on fulfilling the role others have ascribed to him (ie messiah), he will bow before a man who is essentially a decadent, very wealthy man who thinks nothing of gambling away millions of dollars in Las Vegas while denying his subjects basic human rights. Offering respect to other leaders and people doesn’t include the necessity of rolling over on your back. Obama’s problem, and it is a problem for us all, has not changed. He was not and is not prepared for the office he was elected to fill.

I wholeheartedly agree with your debate too, as would any woman knowing the totalitarian oppression of females the “king” supports, as does Obama by default.
He’s not my president, he’s not natural born (jus soli jus sanguinus) and he’ll never be anything but an installed usurper until the will of tens of millions (and growing in number) of Americans who want this criminal out, is carried out properly.

Ellen,

Just because you did not get actual experience witnessing the fraud his campaign inflicted on those of us who participated in the primary, doesn’t mean it didn’t happen. Just because you are unable to see the fraud commited agains the country by someone with absolutely NO EXPERIENCE being put into the position of POTUS and thinking he is better than anyone with experience and knowledge, doesn’t mean you are a good judge either. You may simply be one of those people who are naive.

Larry,

You were too kind to P.V. I mean it. I had a hard time as I couldn’t decide whether to laugh at the idiocy of his comments or really get UPSET because they brought back too many memories of sitting through totally useless classes such as the one he teaches.

As for O’s deference to Islam, I don’t see it any more than I see his “praising Jesus” at the “God damn America” church in Chicago or the church across the street this Easter or his holding a Seder dinner at the WH. He’s playing at religion and doesn’t have a real religious bone in his body. Next he’ll somehow be a Hindu, then a Native American in a sweat lodge, then a Rosicrucian, then a Wiccan, etc. I do believe he does think he is the Messiah coming to unite the world in worship.

If I were Moon Unit Zappa, I’d say, “Gag me with a spoon!”

lefties are moonbats not wingnuts.

thanks for sticking to your guns, Larry. That Gandhi stuff is freaking wacko.

Mary-
My sarcastic inference had to do with BO going down on the King. The Lewinski reference was not a slam on either Clinton – rather, it was a sarcastic reference to the mountain that was made out of a molehill with Bill Clinton while Obama’s screw-ups go unchecked.

Larry,

Here, here!

Make no excuses for calling it how it is…FUCKING INSANE…to appease these islamo-nazis one bit.

Another point on the bow: It shows that Obama does not understand the fundamental greatness of the Founding, that the individual is the sovereign and that we are a nation of mere men.

There is no “devine right of kings” and man should bow before no one but God. That is the very essence of our existence! Instead of seeing the civil rights movement as the proud fulfillment of the promise of our Founding, he can only see hypocrisy and racism and therefore disregards our proud history.

If anything illustrates Obama’s ignorance and/or contempt of the nation he leads, it is the bow. And it was indeed a bow. That fact was verified by the WH denial of the obvious.

Larry,

Here, here!

Make no excuses for calling it how it is…FUCKING INSANE…to appease these islamo-nazis one bit.

Another point on the bow: It shows that Obama does not understand the fundamental greatness of the Founding, that the individual is the sovereign and that we are a nation of mere men.

There is no “divine right of kings” and man should bow before no one but God. That is the very essence of our existence! Instead of seeing the civil rights movement as the proud fulfillment of the promise of our Founding, he can only see hypocrisy and racism and therefore disregards our proud history.

If anything illustrates Obama’s ignorance and/or contempt of the nation he leads, it is the bow. And it was indeed a bow. That fact was verified by the WH denial of the obvious.

“If President Obama bowed that low for the former leader of South Africa, Nelson Mandela …”

But by this shithead’s logic, Obama is operating on a ‘higher level of consciousness’ than Mandela–and MLK, for that matter. How about letting the guy actually accomplish something before comparing him to Ghandi, ranking him above Mandela and Dr. King?

But when we ask to see some results before we join the Society of Presidential Asswipes, the obot replicants revert to “he’s only been in office 3 months and you expect him to solve the economy?”

I don’t expect him to solve the economy in 3 months. I expect him to solve the economy before I start comparing him to FDR.

Thanks for your comments on the Saudi Princes.

Forgive me if this is too vulgar, but bowing/kneeling behavior has the same meaning in the private dynamics between gay men. Bowing signals the exact opposite of “be gentle with me.” It means “dog me, thug me out, dominate me.” The ‘bottom’ uses it to elicit a ‘biological’ response. And it’s never misunderstood — it’s an invitation to release your aggression.

It also has a biological effect on surrounding men: They want the same treatment. It not just about what it signals to the Saudis. What happens in Putin’s bloodstream when he sees Obama bow before the Saudi King? Is that a snarl?

Canines, Saudi Princes, gay men. That’s starting to sound universal to me.

OMG LMAO…Lefties are INDEED “Moonbats.”

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