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A Video That Tells the Story of the MSM and Hillary

Jeralyn at Talkleft chose this title to describe the video: “How the MSM Treats Hillary: One Video Shows It All.” And Taylor Marsh writes:

[This is a] terrific video from Clinton activists and TM.com readers IndyRobin and GeekLove, who met through this blog. It’s a perfect example of what Clinton gets in the media, while John McCain gets a free ride. But maybe things are about to change.

This video reminded me of so much. It reminded me of the day I read the biography of Hillary Clinton at Wikipedia, and of this story in particular:

Stemming from the demands of some students, she became the first student in Wellesley College history to deliver their commencement address. Her speech received a standing ovation lasting seven minutes. She was featured in an article published in Life magazine, due to the response to a part of her speech that criticized Senator Edward Brooke, who had spoken before her at the commencement; she also appeared on Irv Kupcinet’s nationally-syndicated television talk show as well as in Illinois and New England newspapers.

This next sentence is my favorite part of that time in her life:

That summer, she worked her way across Alaska, washing dishes in Mount McKinley National Park and sliming salmon in a fish processing cannery in Valdez (which fired her and shut down overnight when she complained about unhealthy conditions).

Why I love those particular stories about those particular events in Hillary’s life, I can’t quite tell you. Except that those stories have made her very real, and very human, to me. And that last sentence makes me laugh out loud every time I read it.

This video also reminded me of news anchors — one in particular — who think they’re emulating Edward R. Murrow, but cannot because it is not within them. About Murrow’s rich but controversial career as a journalist. About this story:

When he returned to the U.S. in 1941, his first trip back in three years, CBS hosted a dinner in his honor on December 2 at the Waldorf-Astoria Hotel. There were eleven hundred guests in attendance with millions more listening via radio. Franklin D. Roosevelt sent a welcome-back telegram, which was read at the dinner, and Librarian of Congress Archibald MacLeish gave an encomium which commented on the power and intimacy of his war-time dispatches:

In his speech, Archibald MacLeish described how Murrow’s reporting had touched all who heard him:

“You burned the city of London in our houses and we felt the flames. . . You laid the dead of London at our doors and we knew that the dead were our dead. . . were mankind’s dead without rhetoric, without dramatics, without more emotion than needed be. . . you have destroyed the superstition that what is done beyond 3,000 miles of water is not really done at all.

Or this story about a speech that badly damaged his career: “[O]n October 15, 1958, in a speech before the Radio and Television News Directors Association in Chicago, Murrow blasted TV’s emphasis on entertainment and commercialism at the expense of public service”:

[D]uring the daily peak viewing periods, television in the main insulates us from the realities of the world in which we live. If this state of affairs continues, we may alter an advertising slogan to read: Look now, pay later.

Now it’s your turn. Tell me how this video touched you, and what stories reminded you of.

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Thank you, IndyRobin and GeekLove, for creating such a great video.

  • Cello

    Good riddance to Mark Penn.

  • jd

    This video can only help cement my determination to vote against Obama if DNC and Pelosi gang nominate him. And still Obama has not apologized yet to the Clintons after the Wright videos surfaced. Obama still has not personally apologized to Hillary yet after his supporter, Ms Rhodes, called her a whore.

    Hillary does not deserve to be treated this way. She is battling the media, the DNC, Pelosi, Democratic establishment, sexist men like Kerry, Dodd, Obama but she never gives up so we, her supporters, should not give up.

  • CognitiveDissonance

    Wow, I just saw this video over at Corrente and it made me so furious that it’s probably a good thing I don’t live near the TV networks or I’d be in there tomorrow kicking ass and getting myself arrested. :-) I’ve known how bad it’s been for months, but seeing it all together like that was pretty powerful. And almost too sad to bear.

    What I do know for sure, though, is that Hillary Clinton is my hero. I don’t know 5 people (and none of them men) who could have ever put up with the abuse she has and still keep going and still keep smiling and still keep fighting and most of all – still keep caring. This woman is heroic in ways you seldom see in public life. This, my friends, is the epitome of what a great president should be. There is no one else in this race who has these qualities.

  • otherlisa

    Dang, the video stalls out for me right when Tweety is going on about how she only got elected to Senate because “her husband messed around.” Somebody emailed it to me and it stalled in the same place.

    But, yeah. She is really really tough. I don’t know how she puts up with this kind of abuse day in and day out and carries on with such grace.

  • mimi

    My deepest gratitude to the women who put this video together.

    Young women be warned: After you demoralize yourself by lifting your t-shirts and engage in girl-on-girl tongue kissing and groping for Girls Gone Wild, take your shoes off, the kitchen is waiting for you.

    There are a lot of misogynistic, sick puppies out there. The vitriol and hate exposed in this video made me sad, angry, and stunned beyond belief.

    I challenge someone to make a similiar video of Barack Obama being disaparaged this way due to the color of his skin. I fucking dare you!

    If the MSM had behaved this way with him, I guarantee you we’d be under Marshall Law right now, that’s how angry the AA community would be over something like this. And I’d be leading the charge.

    This is a national disgrace for a country who wants to be respected in the world. We can’t even begin to look our noses down on any country who treats women as second class citizens. Not when it’s a apparent that the men and many women here are no different.

    Basically, this is what it boils down to, men who hate their mothers, their sisters, their 1st wives, their 2nd wives, their present and soon-to-be ex-wives, and their own daughters along with self-loathing women who uphold the sexist status quo. It’s pitiful and quite telling how uncivilized many American men are. When did it happen that locker room talk was sanctioned as acceptable for the public airways and from the paid employees of the networks whose job it is to report the news in a fair and unbiased way?

    Let’s see how advertisers like it when they don’t get my money anymore. The MSM has already lost my viewership. And since Obama, the father of 2 daughters and the so-called messenger of hope has yet to step forward and condemn any of this, I once again submit my message of clarity:

    WIN WITHOUT ME!!!!!

  • Salo

    maybe her supporters should riot.

    why the hell not? You know that the establishment of the party is terrified of Obamas supporters.

    the first half is pretty depressing to witness.

  • Bees

    This video makes me furious and also breaks my heart. I expected this kind of thing from the MSM so it doesn’t shock me necessarily, but I will never look at the democratic party in the same way again. I cannot be loyal to a party that stands by while this kind of blatant sexism is going on against one of our own.

    But I lay the ultimate blame for Hillary’s treatment with Obama. The Obama campaign is steadily pushing nasty, false stories about Hillary to the media. The level of hatred against her in the media is, IMO, directly attributable to the viciousness of the Obamabots.

  • Fred C. Dobbs

    >>> I guarantee you we’d be under Marshall Law

    John or Peter?

  • outsider

    This is the first time I am commenting on a blog. I have been a regular reader of this blog. I am not an American. Therefore, I know the right to choose your leader is entirely yours. At the same time, years of GWB showed that your judgments in choosing your leader also impact us, people who live outside. In 2000 and 2004, you had a better choice. You went with media hype. The result is for all to see and live through. USA should do well, in order for the world to do well. No question about it. Quality and stature of American leadership is critical to the quality of human life and rights at large around the world. American media has played a leading role in facilitating the deterioration of quality of American leadership and its stature around the world. I hope and pray that American people learned their lessons: Let not media blitz mar the critical evaluation of candidates. In most cases, I feel, taking a stand opposite to the one touted by media, turns out to be right. I feel solidarity with you. Give us a good leader who can take us forward to a better tomorrow. I feel strongly that Hillary is that leader. I can not contribute, canvas or call up. But my prayers are with you in choosing Hilary is your and our leader. God save America..!

  • kenoshaMarge

    I share you rage mimi. Many of us knew that misogyny was the accepted bigotry in this country. Many of us wondered how women could demean themselves in things like “Girls Gone Wild”. Girls gone wild? Girls without self-respect and/or dignity. Girls willingly objectifying themselves to please their lords and masters.

    Yeah, I know, same old feminist crap, right? But as you said mimi, try that kind of rhetoric about Obama and watch the hysteria. Double-standards haven’t changed, just the players.

    I find ALL bigotry wrong. I find ALL bigots despicable. And I find it amazing that a video like the one above could be put together from things readily available on television and the Internet. Nothing subtle or hidden about this bigotry.

    And most of all I find it amazing that cretins like Keith Olbermann, Chris Matthews and the rest of their ilk would still be watched and listened to by people that call themselves progressives/liberals.

    And just to satisfy my curiosity; Rachel, Mika, Campbell, Gloria, and all the others; if they asked you to pull up your tee-shirts, will-ya?

  • Northwest rain

    I stopped watching TV several years ago. I’ve just seen what I’ve missed — the de-evolution of the talking male. Where did this herd of men, UGLY men, who seem to be allowed to say anything that comes to their mind come from? The men are ugly because of the things they say and the way the words come out of their ugly faces.

    Their attack isn’t just against Hillary Clinton — it is against ALL women. Even the stupid women that faint for Obama.

    We women have NOT made any progress. We can vote and we know that was a hard battle. But there is NO respect for women. Also this hate speech by these talking heads is LEARNED behavior. They learned it and they can unlearn it.

    It is as if the locker room gossip of men is now spewing out over the air waves (and over the cable connections).

    How can women not hear the hatred of ALL women in this hate speech from the talking heads on TV?

    Yet I do know that there are so many good men who must hear this garbage — so it isn’t all men. The problem has to be at the top of the corporate ladder — ALL men — I expect up there. Do not these corporate officers have wives?

    Hillary Clinton is tough — she is a fighter. The only way to get this hate speech to stop is to get Hillary Clinton in the White House.

    The only way this misogynistic behavior can be stopped is for this video to be seen by everyone. Perhaps seeing all the dirty clips in one place will shock enough people that the potty mouths on TV will either GROW UP or be fired. The firing needs to start at the top.

    Obama is a wimp — he could NEVER endure what she has. Have any of the talking heads remarked about Obama’s multiple personalities? Which of the Obama personalities will be on stage today? That was one of the idiot commentaries by one of the talking idiots (one of the ugly males).

    Obama is not a unifier — he does bring out the worst in his followers.

  • cc

    absolutely AWESOME video! thank you, thank you, thank you for your hard work and showing so beautifully and clearly how UNFAIR and BIASED and SEXIST the media has been during this election cycle. The MSM’s actions are abhorrent, disgraceful and truly sickening. I pray women across the country stand up against these chauvinistic tactics and demand JUSTICE! Ladies, the time is now!

  • Marjorie

    Metaphorically, they already have.

  • LandOLincoln

    I’ll tell you: because she is loved and she knows it. Her hsband and her daughter adore her and the howling and hate from puny bits like Tweety and HoHo and Teh Precious roll right off her back, like water off a duck’s.

    Although of course I like to think the support of other strong woman and men like us, is a close second in her sense of self, and strength.

    Barry is a creampuff. He knows it, we know it, and he knows we know it.

    We’re a knowledgeable family.

  • kenoshaMarge

    Absolutely Marjorie. You are absolutely right. But given your name, I am not surprised. :)

  • jes

    A fair fight in the election in one thing, but this incessent fawning over Obama as the “Chosen One” and relentless demonizing of Hillary by the MSM is incredible. I can’t remember anything like it.

    Paul Krugman cited “Clinton Rules” for Hillary bashing. The flip side of the coin is “Obama Rules” in which he is given a free pass by the media.

    Frank Rich and Mo Dowd of the NY Times have bashed Hillary unrelentlessly for months.

    Here’s a response that I penned to one of Rich’s columns. It actually hit number one for Most Recommended:

    18.
    February 10th, 2008 9:10 am
    Link
    Rich has joined the likes of Maureen Dowd and the Chris Matthews misogynst crew at MSNBC. I can almost imagine all of you talking to each other. “Look at the power of the press. We took an unknown black male politician with a thin resume and a gift for oratory. We presented him as a rock star to the gullible public. He was Jesus Christ, JFK and MLK all rolled into one package. The second coming. And the public bought it hook, line, and sinker. We did our best to destory the candidacy of the white woman with the thick resume and real qualifications to be president. Too many times we thought we had dealt the death blow to her candidacy and set up to party and dance on her political grave. But she has more lives than a cat. We presented the black man as the next coming and demonized the white female to the fullest extent possible.

    See the pen is mightier than the sword.”
    — jes, Laguna Niguel, CA
    RecommendedRecommended by 382 Readers

  • Frank

    Suggestion for video:
    Obama LIED about his father’s connection to the Kennedy family – exposed by WaPo last week.

    http://www.talkleft.com/story/2008/3/30/13655/6958

    Hey – anything for an endorsement – right?
    There are 2007-08 videos of Obama asserting this lie in speeches and rallies.
    But we’ll never see these videos on TV – or any mention of Obama’s LIE to obtain an endorsement.

  • wry

    So what do we do now? Take one for the party if Hillary doesn’t make it in Pennsylvania? Get out there and stump for Obama?
    I don’t want to…not if the nomination is won this way.
    It’s a sad day in America when our candidate gets more respect on television from Pat Buchanan.
    What do we do as Democrats who are women, American Women, first?
    And my heartfelt thanks to whomever put this together.I too needed to see it all in one place. How do we ensure EVERYONE sees it and asks the question, would we ever talk this way about a black man?
    Just call me Another Bitch for Hillary.
    Sorry Howard and Donna, I’m out of here.

  • Bruce

    This video just blew me away.

    It will be required viewing for my three voting age kids, two of whom are young women, and unfortunately all supporters of Senator Obama. I want them, no I need for them to see what is happening before it is over. In two years, when the dust has settled and we get varying degrees of mea culpas from some but not all of the perpetrators of this crime against women, Hillary Clinton and all of us who suport her and who have been loyal Democrats and ardent progressives for years and decades, I hope that we’re doing more than saying to all of these folks that we told them so.

    I’m energized. . .again. Let’s win this thing.

  • wry

    So JES can you get that statement out there? Only I’d call Hillary a white woman instead of a white female. My cat is a female but she’s not a woman.

    You write brilliantly.

  • yttik

    That video is well done.

    I also think it’s a great testament to Hillary Clinton. She is facing that tsunami of crap head on and she’s not been knocked down. She just keeps on fighting. I don’t know how she does it.

    If Obama had faced one tenth of the crap Hillary has, he’d be layed out like roadkill.

  • jes

    I shall try to post it at other sites. But any and all of you are also welcome to post it if you want. ;-)

  • Judy R.

    Hillary is so heads above the other candidates in courage and character, it really saddens me to see her put down by all these “men.” It also saddens me to think men feel this is okay to do in this “modern” day of supposed equality for all.

  • JoeySky

    I saw the video and showed it to my partner last night. And we couldn’t stop discussing about all evening. How can Americans let this happen? “Take her behind a barn”?! Did we hear that right?

    We were so sad. It was a solemn mood at dinner. We felt like we just went to a funeral. US Media killed American values that we know of, respect other, bold & courageous, defend what is right, champion of human rights, women rights. Americans stand up for animal rights. They have animal cops that work to protect the animals. It is one of our favorite show. But how come Americans do nothing to protect a human right of their NY Senator. How can this vile comments be allowed on a regular basis on national TV?

    The media protest on Friday April 11 is something that need to be done. There is many things to be said about this misogyny in the US Media. Time to put a break on this kind of behavior. I wonder if the law allows New Yorkers can file a lawsuit against US media to protect their senator.

  • Ohio

    With the media against her, bloggers against her, the party leadership against her, and being outspent—they’re still tied.

    http://www.hillaryclinton.com

    Make those calls. Blog those blogs. Link to this video. And every time you get angry about the MSM treatment of Sen. Clinton, fine yourself: $5, $10, and send it to her campaign. Count up every time you’ve been called a name based on your girl parts (or being called a girl, wimp, fag, pussy, wuss, you know the terms) and send it to her campaign.

    Put your anger into words. Then put it into dollars.

    Buy a t-shirt or a sticker or a coffee mug or a button. Come out of the closet as a supporter of HRC. Stand up for her, folks, because she’s standing up for each one of us (even the misguided—ha).

    This will make a difference.

    Okay, I’m done pitching.

    Thanks, NoQuarter crew, for the site. I keep meaning to say that.

  • grtphoto

    well said, again mimi. i love reading your posts. I agree with your sadness, rage, disgust etc. I especially agree with your point; since when did locker room style talk become mainstream? I was shocked last night while waiting for a television program to start that I heard a male actor tell a female actress that someone else was quote “a rag”, not once but twice. It was disgusting. This, on a sitcom, how is that furthering women’s causes? Someone wrote those words and felt it OK. It is mainstream and I fear that it is getting worse. What makes me the most angry is women who don’t respect their womanhood and sell out for whatever reason. I guess they feel they’ll be more accepted by the men around them if they bash their fellow women. It just backfires and enables men to continue their irrational hatred.

  • http://www.myspace.com/rokski Paul F. Villarreal AKA “Universal”

    People just don’t understand — because of all the crap that the GOP has done over the years and what the Obama-fawning MSM is doing now — how hard Hillary has worked for years and years in the service of her country. She didn’t have to try to get universal health care passed in 1993, but she did try, when many others would have been content to go around performing ceremonial duties instead with the glamor crowd.

    Nope, not Hillary. She’s a worker, and a fighter. She jumped right in and did what she is best at: helping other people, and with the realization that the best fulfillment a person can have is when they try to help others.

    Let me just say that I am personally THRILLED that Hillary and Bill have become wealthy. I remember how all the GOP goofballs were consoled after their failed attempt to remove Bill from office because of the enormous legal fees the Clintons had incurred while fighting one specious charge after another until the fishing expedition finally caught the blue dress.

    Those debts? They’re gone, like Hillary’s supposed fundraising debt.

    And I couldn’t be more happy for them.

    Susan, thanks for the post and the video. We love our gal, and we’re with her all the way. I donated more money today. ;)

    .

    Here is a post I made over at my brother’s site with two videos I shot after seeing Bill Clinton speak in PA about 2.5 weeks ago. The discussion is about Clinton vs Obama. It isn’t anything revelatory, but some might enjoy it. I also discuss why I chose the blog name “Universal” (some of you know why) and how that relates to Hillary in the second video:

    http://www.villarrealsports.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=349

    Hillary Clinton is the real deal. No one claimed she walks on water like they’ve been trying to say about the other guy. I don’t want a Messiah; I want a real, qualified, experienced President. And I’m not talking about John McCain.

    Peace.

    :)

  • pm317

    Related to this comment, Anglachel has a blog on BTD’s support for Obama because he is a media darling. What a shallow way to pick a nominee or a president. We should do everything this time, to defy the media in picking our nominee or our president. Haven’t we learned anything from 2000 and 2004?

  • jd

    Vote for McCain. It is the only weapon we can use against them. We can’t let the MSM, the blogs, etc and especially obama win. Period.

  • jes

    Wait and see what happens. Let this nomination play itself out. Who knows, maybe Hillary will pull it off.

    It’s only April and more than six months to the GE. There’s plenty of time to make a decision later.

  • http://ambergirl.stumbleupon.com/ Bluemoon

    why don’t you just sit down & shut up?!

    heh- I thoroughly enjoyed that- First I immediate rated it, sent it to friends, and added it to my kos blogroll! At one point I frankly had tears streaming down my face- because this piece is so powerful, so concentrated, and so – cathartic.

    I then spent 15 mins searching for an image to respond with- of a bird taking flght out of a womans hand, of a woman smiling, but just the lower portion of a face- of sisters holding hands, of a goddess, of my favorite Greek statue, Nike of Samothrace, of a woman’s hand decorated with henna tattoos & bejeweled… Nothing really sufficed. No one image was quite right- but that is indeed the message of the vid.

    Except to say- HRC, like all women, is a complex, dimensional character. And it was refreshing to see her treated as such.

    Many thanks.

  • ybnormal

    The sexism against Hillary has another dimension, in addition to raw misogyny.

    The point was brought home to me while researching music to play at this past Sunday’s church service. I stumbled on a rarely used word – schadenfreude – which seems to apply to the anti-Hillary slander.

    Schadenfreude – literally means, malicious joy in the misfortunes of others – from schaden “damage, harm, injury” + freude “happy, joy”. I was led to this by Proverbs 17-5, the last half of which says, “…whoever gloats over disaster will not go unpunished”.

    How many instances of gloating over Hillary’s uphill struggle can we find?

    …counting…counting…counting…

  • Dawnelle

    Wow you couldn’t have found a BETTER song to go with that.

    My Mom didn’t like the beginning of the video and said she hopes no one sees that or they may start hating Hillary. Ah the real mechanics of propaganda – negative opinions being pushed down the throats of a Nation of millions unaware. I used to be one of them. ARGH! I’m truly sorry Sen. Clinton. Bygones.

  • MessyMarcy

    I enjoyed reading your insightful comment; and I am in total agreement with your statement “In most cases, I feel, taking a stand opposite to the one touted by media, turns out to be right.” The media in this country has long since ceased being anything other than a herd of sheep doing the bidding of their corporate masters. The fact that they are so enthralled with Obama is just another good reason for not voting for him.

  • Deke

    That is a beautiful and moving movie with a tremendous narrative. I graduated college in the late sixties and the womens movement has just beginning to make head way in the country. There were not alot of women going into medicine or law or engineering but in a matter of 20 years the climate had changed dramatically at entry levels of these professions. I many cases women advanced but never at the same rate as males whether they were white or black. I think we are in the next stage of that struggle were middle age women are feeling the effects of gender bias in their attempts to move ahead. I see younger generations of women taking for granted the struggles and sacrifices of the older generation and if they fail to pick up the torch they movement will slide back. Hillary represents the hope for our generation and we cannot forget that. And this is spoke as a man who has witness first hand the suffering of the professional women around him.

  • jes

    Joan Walsh wrote a piece in Salon today about sexism and misogyny directed towards Hillary.

    For those who are interested in reading the article:

    http://www.salon.com/opinion/walsh/?last_story=/opinion/walsh/election_2008/2008/04/08/rush_limbaugh/

  • Dawnelle

    Fantastic article from Joan but OMG I read the first page of comments and they were hideous! The BO haters trying to defend those words. I’m thinking this is more generational than I once suspected.

    AND I think a LOT of really YOUNG punks flock to destroy blogs as a hobby. Too young to go to bars and get in trouble there. Too old for X box. Hate adults especially people over 50. The typical troll. (although I’ve known some OLD trolls too) LOL

  • http://noquarterusa.net/ SusanUnPC

    Oh no. They’re attacking Walsh? Even when I disagree with her, I find her one of the sharpest and classiest commentators on television pundit shows.

    Joan Walsh personifies class. As opposed to … I always forget her last name — Sally — the wife of Ben Bradley. She’s such a snob.

    There’s a great, poignant and infuriating passage in Sidney Blumenthal’s book about “The Clinton Wars” about how hard the Clintons tried to befriend the elite of D.C. society, and how Sally ____ and others treated them like they were Arkansas trailer trash. Someday, I’m going to finish reading his book. It is great. I bought it last summer at a book sale / and mostly have used it as a reference a few times since it has a great index too.

  • jd

    You meant Quinn ? yeah a snob.

  • IndyRobin

    Hi Susan,

    Just want to say thanks so much for putting the video up and your beauiful piece on Edward R Murrow.

    Of all the pieces in the video it was the one I was worried about. Our Hillary, can damn well take care of herself, as we all know :) but I really wanted to stress how deeply we have failed as a society to follow the hopes and dreams of Edward R Murrow.

    This video took four weeks of my life that I do not care to revisit; it broke my heart day after day listening to these clips. I made this video, not because I wanted to, but because I had no other choice.

    It is my understanding that the video has now gone “viral” 23,000 viewers on youtube, 1,000 comments, 22 front page bloggs, including NewsDay.
    Please keep sending it out. This message needs to be heard.

    Thanks everybody. Your thoughtful feedback is helpful and appreciated.

  • jen boyle

    I did not even know about this until just today when my sister sent me a link. I am disturbed by this and as a middle school science teacher who sees adolescent girls on a daily basis embarass themselves to get attention from boys, this video crushed me. I will definitely vote for HRC if she is on the ticket, I will NOT vote for Obama. I agree with the person who commented that if the shoe was on the other foot there would be rioting. Why do women sit and silently take this crap?? I had been watching Stephonopoulous (sp?) in the morning on Sundays and even my husband could not stand how blatantly biased he was towards Obama. Media is so far from impartial it blows my mind…and people in the beltway have no IDEA what is going on in rural America. I am from Michigan and my primary vote did not apparently count. I think Michigan should not revote, but count HRC’s votes in her favor, and all uncommited votes to the other one. There was ample literature and news coverage instructing people to vote uncommited if they wanted Barak. Plus, it is not HRC’s fault Barak pulled such a calculated strategic move…he knew he couldn’t win Michigan’s rural, working class vote so he set this up so Michigan is a non issue.

  • r cameron

    Obama apologize to Clinton for the Wright videos? What on earth for? She has nothing to do with them. Obama also has nothing to do with Rhodes. Are you suggesting that anytime a supporter of any candidate badmouths another candidate, the first candidate has to apologize? All the candidates would have to spend all their time apologizing in this scenario.
    Clinton has definitely been the victim of sexist attitudes, particularly in the media but not by Obama — or Kerry, Dodd, Pelosi or the Democratic establishment.
    The sad part is people like you — and the equally closed-minded people on the Obama side — are going to throw this election to McCain, which would be a huge disservice to America. Do you really want more war, no health insurance reform, more tax cuts for the rich and a continuation in the growing economic divide in this country? All this because of your misplaced anger? Please, think again.

  • yttik

    Obama has apologized twice in the last week for things his supporters have said about McCain.

    I think it’s reasonable to expect Obama to show the same concern towards his fellow Dems.

  • kmbo

    I wish that I could say something that would give pause in this conflict. I am a woman, a feminist, a mother, and I don’t want Hillary to be the nominee. Sir Elton is shocked at all the misogynists in this country. I wonder if he counts someone like me in that grand sweep. I used to love Bill and Hillary and now they just make me tired. I am sickened when I hear that nearly 30% of Hillary’s supporters say they’ll vote for McCain if Obama is the nominee and nearly 20% of Obama’s supporters would do they same were she to win.

    The Supreme Court Justices that still believe in our Constitution can not hold out for another four years of Republican rule. McCain is intent on keeping our men and women in Iraq and is as unwilling to listen to any alternate view as the current administration has been. As he endlessly ratchets up the rhetoric and mixes up the players, McCain now seems hell bent on going to war with Iran despite a military that is exhausted and stretched to the breaking point.

    There are many saying it is already too late to stop climate change, that we’ve crossed a threshold. There are food riots going on across the planet due to shortages caused by climate change, the high price of fuel making it too expensive to transport food, and farmers getting better crop prices for bio fuels, and yet, people say they’ll vote for McCain if their first choice doesn’t win the nomination.

    We have $4 a gallon gas today and oil companies are raking in obscene profits while lobbying to keep tax breaks while telling us that the money they are making really has no connection to the price we are paying at the pump. Now I am being told that it is elitist to say people are bitter and that in frustration, some turn to guns, God, and blaming immigrants for the troubles they see around them. I am bitter and I am angry and I can’t believe that the people of this country are threatening such rampant stupidity, but I’ve been through 7 1/2 years now of stunned disbelief already. These circumstances require us all to wise up immediately.

  • Rev. DoLittle

    Interesting that my comment, which was critical of Clinton, was scrubbed from this thread. So, I looked around a bit and quickly realized that this is an anti-Obama site, with comments critical of Clinton tossed. So, y’all like preaching to your choir?

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