Comments on: A Video That Tells the Story of the MSM and Hillary http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2105/a-video-that-tells-the-story-of-the-msm-and-hillary/ Sun, 27 May 2012 09:11:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.4 By: Rev. DoLittle http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2105/a-video-that-tells-the-story-of-the-msm-and-hillary/#comment-186971 Rev. DoLittle Sun, 13 Apr 2008 05:53:48 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/04/08/a-video-that-tells-the-story-of-the-msm-and-hillary/#comment-186971 Interesting that my comment, which was critical of Clinton, was scrubbed from this thread. So, I looked around a bit and quickly realized that this is an anti-Obama site, with comments critical of Clinton tossed. So, y'all like preaching to your choir? Interesting that my comment, which was critical of Clinton, was scrubbed from this thread. So, I looked around a bit and quickly realized that this is an anti-Obama site, with comments critical of Clinton tossed. So, y’all like preaching to your choir?

]]> By: kmbo http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2105/a-video-that-tells-the-story-of-the-msm-and-hillary/#comment-186887 kmbo Sun, 13 Apr 2008 04:12:13 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/04/08/a-video-that-tells-the-story-of-the-msm-and-hillary/#comment-186887 I wish that I could say something that would give pause in this conflict. I am a woman, a feminist, a mother, and I don't want Hillary to be the nominee. Sir Elton is shocked at all the misogynists in this country. I wonder if he counts someone like me in that grand sweep. I used to love Bill and Hillary and now they just make me tired. I am sickened when I hear that nearly 30% of Hillary's supporters say they'll vote for McCain if Obama is the nominee and nearly 20% of Obama's supporters would do they same were she to win. The Supreme Court Justices that still believe in our Constitution can not hold out for another four years of Republican rule. McCain is intent on keeping our men and women in Iraq and is as unwilling to listen to any alternate view as the current administration has been. As he endlessly ratchets up the rhetoric and mixes up the players, McCain now seems hell bent on going to war with Iran despite a military that is exhausted and stretched to the breaking point. There are many saying it is already too late to stop climate change, that we've crossed a threshold. There are food riots going on across the planet due to shortages caused by climate change, the high price of fuel making it too expensive to transport food, and farmers getting better crop prices for bio fuels, and yet, people say they'll vote for McCain if their first choice doesn't win the nomination. We have $4 a gallon gas today and oil companies are raking in obscene profits while lobbying to keep tax breaks while telling us that the money they are making really has no connection to the price we are paying at the pump. Now I am being told that it is elitist to say people are bitter and that in frustration, some turn to guns, God, and blaming immigrants for the troubles they see around them. I am bitter and I am angry and I can't believe that the people of this country are threatening such rampant stupidity, but I've been through 7 1/2 years now of stunned disbelief already. These circumstances require us all to wise up immediately. I wish that I could say something that would give pause in this conflict. I am a woman, a feminist, a mother, and I don’t want Hillary to be the nominee. Sir Elton is shocked at all the misogynists in this country. I wonder if he counts someone like me in that grand sweep. I used to love Bill and Hillary and now they just make me tired. I am sickened when I hear that nearly 30% of Hillary’s supporters say they’ll vote for McCain if Obama is the nominee and nearly 20% of Obama’s supporters would do they same were she to win.

The Supreme Court Justices that still believe in our Constitution can not hold out for another four years of Republican rule. McCain is intent on keeping our men and women in Iraq and is as unwilling to listen to any alternate view as the current administration has been. As he endlessly ratchets up the rhetoric and mixes up the players, McCain now seems hell bent on going to war with Iran despite a military that is exhausted and stretched to the breaking point.

There are many saying it is already too late to stop climate change, that we’ve crossed a threshold. There are food riots going on across the planet due to shortages caused by climate change, the high price of fuel making it too expensive to transport food, and farmers getting better crop prices for bio fuels, and yet, people say they’ll vote for McCain if their first choice doesn’t win the nomination.

We have $4 a gallon gas today and oil companies are raking in obscene profits while lobbying to keep tax breaks while telling us that the money they are making really has no connection to the price we are paying at the pump. Now I am being told that it is elitist to say people are bitter and that in frustration, some turn to guns, God, and blaming immigrants for the troubles they see around them. I am bitter and I am angry and I can’t believe that the people of this country are threatening such rampant stupidity, but I’ve been through 7 1/2 years now of stunned disbelief already. These circumstances require us all to wise up immediately.

]]> By: yttik http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2105/a-video-that-tells-the-story-of-the-msm-and-hillary/#comment-184748 yttik Thu, 10 Apr 2008 00:14:04 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/04/08/a-video-that-tells-the-story-of-the-msm-and-hillary/#comment-184748 Obama has apologized twice in the last week for things his supporters have said about McCain. I think it's reasonable to expect Obama to show the same concern towards his fellow Dems. Obama has apologized twice in the last week for things his supporters have said about McCain.

I think it’s reasonable to expect Obama to show the same concern towards his fellow Dems.

]]> By: r cameron http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2105/a-video-that-tells-the-story-of-the-msm-and-hillary/#comment-184737 r cameron Wed, 09 Apr 2008 23:58:12 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/04/08/a-video-that-tells-the-story-of-the-msm-and-hillary/#comment-184737 Obama apologize to Clinton for the Wright videos? What on earth for? She has nothing to do with them. Obama also has nothing to do with Rhodes. Are you suggesting that anytime a supporter of any candidate badmouths another candidate, the first candidate has to apologize? All the candidates would have to spend all their time apologizing in this scenario. Clinton has definitely been the victim of sexist attitudes, particularly in the media but not by Obama -- or Kerry, Dodd, Pelosi or the Democratic establishment. The sad part is people like you -- and the equally closed-minded people on the Obama side -- are going to throw this election to McCain, which would be a huge disservice to America. Do you really want more war, no health insurance reform, more tax cuts for the rich and a continuation in the growing economic divide in this country? All this because of your misplaced anger? Please, think again. Obama apologize to Clinton for the Wright videos? What on earth for? She has nothing to do with them. Obama also has nothing to do with Rhodes. Are you suggesting that anytime a supporter of any candidate badmouths another candidate, the first candidate has to apologize? All the candidates would have to spend all their time apologizing in this scenario.
Clinton has definitely been the victim of sexist attitudes, particularly in the media but not by Obama — or Kerry, Dodd, Pelosi or the Democratic establishment.
The sad part is people like you — and the equally closed-minded people on the Obama side — are going to throw this election to McCain, which would be a huge disservice to America. Do you really want more war, no health insurance reform, more tax cuts for the rich and a continuation in the growing economic divide in this country? All this because of your misplaced anger? Please, think again.

]]> By: jen boyle http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2105/a-video-that-tells-the-story-of-the-msm-and-hillary/#comment-184402 jen boyle Wed, 09 Apr 2008 17:12:22 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/04/08/a-video-that-tells-the-story-of-the-msm-and-hillary/#comment-184402 I did not even know about this until just today when my sister sent me a link. I am disturbed by this and as a middle school science teacher who sees adolescent girls on a daily basis embarass themselves to get attention from boys, this video crushed me. I will definitely vote for HRC if she is on the ticket, I will NOT vote for Obama. I agree with the person who commented that if the shoe was on the other foot there would be rioting. Why do women sit and silently take this crap?? I had been watching Stephonopoulous (sp?) in the morning on Sundays and even my husband could not stand how blatantly biased he was towards Obama. Media is so far from impartial it blows my mind...and people in the beltway have no IDEA what is going on in rural America. I am from Michigan and my primary vote did not apparently count. I think Michigan should not revote, but count HRC's votes in her favor, and all uncommited votes to the other one. There was ample literature and news coverage instructing people to vote uncommited if they wanted Barak. Plus, it is not HRC's fault Barak pulled such a calculated strategic move...he knew he couldn't win Michigan's rural, working class vote so he set this up so Michigan is a non issue. I did not even know about this until just today when my sister sent me a link. I am disturbed by this and as a middle school science teacher who sees adolescent girls on a daily basis embarass themselves to get attention from boys, this video crushed me. I will definitely vote for HRC if she is on the ticket, I will NOT vote for Obama. I agree with the person who commented that if the shoe was on the other foot there would be rioting. Why do women sit and silently take this crap?? I had been watching Stephonopoulous (sp?) in the morning on Sundays and even my husband could not stand how blatantly biased he was towards Obama. Media is so far from impartial it blows my mind…and people in the beltway have no IDEA what is going on in rural America. I am from Michigan and my primary vote did not apparently count. I think Michigan should not revote, but count HRC’s votes in her favor, and all uncommited votes to the other one. There was ample literature and news coverage instructing people to vote uncommited if they wanted Barak. Plus, it is not HRC’s fault Barak pulled such a calculated strategic move…he knew he couldn’t win Michigan’s rural, working class vote so he set this up so Michigan is a non issue.

]]> By: IndyRobin http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2105/a-video-that-tells-the-story-of-the-msm-and-hillary/#comment-183408 IndyRobin Tue, 08 Apr 2008 21:28:59 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/04/08/a-video-that-tells-the-story-of-the-msm-and-hillary/#comment-183408 Hi Susan, Just want to say thanks so much for putting the video up and your beauiful piece on Edward R Murrow. Of all the pieces in the video it was the one I was worried about. Our Hillary, can damn well take care of herself, as we all know :) but I really wanted to stress how deeply we have failed as a society to follow the hopes and dreams of Edward R Murrow. This video took four weeks of my life that I do not care to revisit; it broke my heart day after day listening to these clips. I made this video, not because I wanted to, but because I had no other choice. It is my understanding that the video has now gone "viral" 23,000 viewers on youtube, 1,000 comments, 22 front page bloggs, including NewsDay. Please keep sending it out. This message needs to be heard. Thanks everybody. Your thoughtful feedback is helpful and appreciated. Hi Susan,

Just want to say thanks so much for putting the video up and your beauiful piece on Edward R Murrow.

Of all the pieces in the video it was the one I was worried about. Our Hillary, can damn well take care of herself, as we all know :) but I really wanted to stress how deeply we have failed as a society to follow the hopes and dreams of Edward R Murrow.

This video took four weeks of my life that I do not care to revisit; it broke my heart day after day listening to these clips. I made this video, not because I wanted to, but because I had no other choice.

It is my understanding that the video has now gone “viral” 23,000 viewers on youtube, 1,000 comments, 22 front page bloggs, including NewsDay.
Please keep sending it out. This message needs to be heard.

Thanks everybody. Your thoughtful feedback is helpful and appreciated.

]]> By: jd http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2105/a-video-that-tells-the-story-of-the-msm-and-hillary/#comment-183390 jd Tue, 08 Apr 2008 20:59:15 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/04/08/a-video-that-tells-the-story-of-the-msm-and-hillary/#comment-183390 You meant Quinn ? yeah a snob. You meant Quinn ? yeah a snob.

]]> By: SusanUnPC http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2105/a-video-that-tells-the-story-of-the-msm-and-hillary/#comment-183364 SusanUnPC Tue, 08 Apr 2008 20:28:04 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/04/08/a-video-that-tells-the-story-of-the-msm-and-hillary/#comment-183364 Oh no. They're attacking Walsh? Even when I disagree with her, I find her one of the sharpest and <strong>classiest</strong> commentators on television pundit shows. Joan Walsh personifies class. As opposed to ... I always forget her last name -- Sally -- the wife of Ben Bradley. She's such a snob. There's a great, poignant and infuriating passage in Sidney Blumenthal's book about "The Clinton Wars" about how hard the Clintons tried to befriend the elite of D.C. society, and how Sally ____ and others treated them like they were Arkansas trailer trash. Someday, I'm going to finish reading his book. It is great. I bought it last summer at a book sale / and mostly have used it as a reference a few times since it has a great index too. Oh no. They’re attacking Walsh? Even when I disagree with her, I find her one of the sharpest and classiest commentators on television pundit shows.

Joan Walsh personifies class. As opposed to … I always forget her last name — Sally — the wife of Ben Bradley. She’s such a snob.

There’s a great, poignant and infuriating passage in Sidney Blumenthal’s book about “The Clinton Wars” about how hard the Clintons tried to befriend the elite of D.C. society, and how Sally ____ and others treated them like they were Arkansas trailer trash. Someday, I’m going to finish reading his book. It is great. I bought it last summer at a book sale / and mostly have used it as a reference a few times since it has a great index too.

]]> By: Dawnelle http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2105/a-video-that-tells-the-story-of-the-msm-and-hillary/#comment-183323 Dawnelle Tue, 08 Apr 2008 19:45:00 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/04/08/a-video-that-tells-the-story-of-the-msm-and-hillary/#comment-183323 Fantastic article from Joan but OMG I read the first page of comments and they were hideous! The BO haters trying to defend those words. I'm thinking this is more generational than I once suspected. AND I think a LOT of really YOUNG punks flock to destroy blogs as a hobby. Too young to go to bars and get in trouble there. Too old for X box. Hate adults especially people over 50. The typical troll. (although I've known some OLD trolls too) LOL Fantastic article from Joan but OMG I read the first page of comments and they were hideous! The BO haters trying to defend those words. I’m thinking this is more generational than I once suspected.

AND I think a LOT of really YOUNG punks flock to destroy blogs as a hobby. Too young to go to bars and get in trouble there. Too old for X box. Hate adults especially people over 50. The typical troll. (although I’ve known some OLD trolls too) LOL

]]> By: jes http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2105/a-video-that-tells-the-story-of-the-msm-and-hillary/#comment-183297 jes Tue, 08 Apr 2008 19:03:19 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/04/08/a-video-that-tells-the-story-of-the-msm-and-hillary/#comment-183297 Joan Walsh wrote a piece in Salon today about sexism and misogyny directed towards Hillary. For those who are interested in reading the article: http://www.salon.com/opinion/walsh/?last_story=/opinion/walsh/election_2008/2008/04/08/rush_limbaugh/ Joan Walsh wrote a piece in Salon today about sexism and misogyny directed towards Hillary.

For those who are interested in reading the article:

http://www.salon.com/opinion/walsh/?last_story=/opinion/walsh/election_2008/2008/04/08/rush_limbaugh/

]]> By: Deke http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2105/a-video-that-tells-the-story-of-the-msm-and-hillary/#comment-183289 Deke Tue, 08 Apr 2008 18:51:16 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/04/08/a-video-that-tells-the-story-of-the-msm-and-hillary/#comment-183289 That is a beautiful and moving movie with a tremendous narrative. I graduated college in the late sixties and the womens movement has just beginning to make head way in the country. There were not alot of women going into medicine or law or engineering but in a matter of 20 years the climate had changed dramatically at entry levels of these professions. I many cases women advanced but never at the same rate as males whether they were white or black. I think we are in the next stage of that struggle were middle age women are feeling the effects of gender bias in their attempts to move ahead. I see younger generations of women taking for granted the struggles and sacrifices of the older generation and if they fail to pick up the torch they movement will slide back. Hillary represents the hope for our generation and we cannot forget that. And this is spoke as a man who has witness first hand the suffering of the professional women around him. That is a beautiful and moving movie with a tremendous narrative. I graduated college in the late sixties and the womens movement has just beginning to make head way in the country. There were not alot of women going into medicine or law or engineering but in a matter of 20 years the climate had changed dramatically at entry levels of these professions. I many cases women advanced but never at the same rate as males whether they were white or black. I think we are in the next stage of that struggle were middle age women are feeling the effects of gender bias in their attempts to move ahead. I see younger generations of women taking for granted the struggles and sacrifices of the older generation and if they fail to pick up the torch they movement will slide back. Hillary represents the hope for our generation and we cannot forget that. And this is spoke as a man who has witness first hand the suffering of the professional women around him.

]]> By: MessyMarcy http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2105/a-video-that-tells-the-story-of-the-msm-and-hillary/#comment-183279 MessyMarcy Tue, 08 Apr 2008 18:37:05 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/04/08/a-video-that-tells-the-story-of-the-msm-and-hillary/#comment-183279 I enjoyed reading your insightful comment; and I am in total agreement with your statement "In most cases, I feel, taking a stand opposite to the one touted by media, turns out to be right." The media in this country has long since ceased being anything other than a herd of sheep doing the bidding of their corporate masters. The fact that they are so enthralled with Obama is just another good reason for not voting for him. I enjoyed reading your insightful comment; and I am in total agreement with your statement “In most cases, I feel, taking a stand opposite to the one touted by media, turns out to be right.” The media in this country has long since ceased being anything other than a herd of sheep doing the bidding of their corporate masters. The fact that they are so enthralled with Obama is just another good reason for not voting for him.

]]> By: Dawnelle http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2105/a-video-that-tells-the-story-of-the-msm-and-hillary/#comment-183267 Dawnelle Tue, 08 Apr 2008 18:20:27 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/04/08/a-video-that-tells-the-story-of-the-msm-and-hillary/#comment-183267 Wow you couldn't have found a BETTER song to go with that. My Mom didn't like the beginning of the video and said she hopes no one sees that or they may start hating Hillary. Ah the real mechanics of propaganda - negative opinions being pushed down the throats of a Nation of millions unaware. I used to be one of them. ARGH! I'm truly sorry Sen. Clinton. Bygones. Wow you couldn’t have found a BETTER song to go with that.

My Mom didn’t like the beginning of the video and said she hopes no one sees that or they may start hating Hillary. Ah the real mechanics of propaganda – negative opinions being pushed down the throats of a Nation of millions unaware. I used to be one of them. ARGH! I’m truly sorry Sen. Clinton. Bygones.

]]> By: ybnormal http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2105/a-video-that-tells-the-story-of-the-msm-and-hillary/#comment-183260 ybnormal Tue, 08 Apr 2008 18:06:40 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/04/08/a-video-that-tells-the-story-of-the-msm-and-hillary/#comment-183260 The sexism against Hillary has another dimension, in addition to raw misogyny. The point was brought home to me while researching music to play at this past Sunday's church service. I stumbled on a rarely used word - schadenfreude - which seems to apply to the anti-Hillary slander. Schadenfreude - literally means, malicious joy in the misfortunes of others - from <em>schaden</em> "damage, harm, injury" + <em>freude</em> "happy, joy". I was led to this by Proverbs 17-5, the last half of which says, "...whoever gloats over disaster will not go unpunished". How many instances of gloating over Hillary's uphill struggle can we find? ...counting...counting...counting... The sexism against Hillary has another dimension, in addition to raw misogyny.

The point was brought home to me while researching music to play at this past Sunday’s church service. I stumbled on a rarely used word – schadenfreude – which seems to apply to the anti-Hillary slander.

Schadenfreude – literally means, malicious joy in the misfortunes of others – from schaden “damage, harm, injury” + freude “happy, joy”. I was led to this by Proverbs 17-5, the last half of which says, “…whoever gloats over disaster will not go unpunished”.

How many instances of gloating over Hillary’s uphill struggle can we find?

…counting…counting…counting…

]]> By: Bluemoon http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2105/a-video-that-tells-the-story-of-the-msm-and-hillary/#comment-183248 Bluemoon Tue, 08 Apr 2008 17:35:44 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/04/08/a-video-that-tells-the-story-of-the-msm-and-hillary/#comment-183248 <strong>why don't you just sit down & shut up?! </strong><em> heh- I thoroughly enjoyed that- First I immediate rated it, sent it to friends, and added it to my kos blogroll! At one point I frankly had tears streaming down my face- because this piece is so powerful, so concentrated, and so - <strong>cathartic.</strong> I then spent 15 mins searching for an image to respond with- of a bird taking flght out of a womans hand, of a woman smiling, but just the lower portion of a face- of sisters holding hands, of a goddess, of my favorite Greek statue, Nike of Samothrace, of a woman's hand decorated with henna tattoos & bejeweled... Nothing really sufficed. No one image was quite right- but that is indeed the message of the vid. Except to say- HRC, like all women, is a complex, dimensional character. And it was refreshing to see her treated as such. Many thanks.</em> why don’t you just sit down & shut up?!

heh- I thoroughly enjoyed that- First I immediate rated it, sent it to friends, and added it to my kos blogroll! At one point I frankly had tears streaming down my face- because this piece is so powerful, so concentrated, and so – cathartic.

I then spent 15 mins searching for an image to respond with- of a bird taking flght out of a womans hand, of a woman smiling, but just the lower portion of a face- of sisters holding hands, of a goddess, of my favorite Greek statue, Nike of Samothrace, of a woman’s hand decorated with henna tattoos & bejeweled… Nothing really sufficed. No one image was quite right- but that is indeed the message of the vid.

Except to say- HRC, like all women, is a complex, dimensional character. And it was refreshing to see her treated as such.

Many thanks.

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