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		<title>By: Mr.Murder</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/217/schooling-don-rumsfeld/#comment-4145</link>
		<dc:creator>Mr.Murder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Jun 2006 15:48:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>apologies, wrong window/thread entry, that was for the piece on Leopold upstairs...
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		<title>By: Mr.Murder</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/217/schooling-don-rumsfeld/#comment-4144</link>
		<dc:creator>Mr.Murder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Jun 2006 15:30:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;I haven&#039;t expressed faith in anyone Larry. You on the other hand have expressed faith in a serial fiction writer with substance abuse and mental issues.&quot;


?

Larry mentioned Rush Limbaugh?
Substance abuse- have you been looking at AWOL&#039;s guard records again?
Jonah Golberg fits the mental issues category.
Ditto Ann Coulter.

The story will live independent of who reports it, nobody goes before a grand jury five times unless he&#039;s been around a lot of potential lawbreaking.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I haven&#8217;t expressed faith in anyone Larry. You on the other hand have expressed faith in a serial fiction writer with substance abuse and mental issues.&#8221;</p>
<p>?</p>
<p>Larry mentioned Rush Limbaugh?<br />
Substance abuse- have you been looking at AWOL&#8217;s guard records again?<br />
Jonah Golberg fits the mental issues category.<br />
Ditto Ann Coulter.</p>
<p>The story will live independent of who reports it, nobody goes before a grand jury five times unless he&#8217;s been around a lot of potential lawbreaking.</p>
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		<title>By: JS Narins</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/217/schooling-don-rumsfeld/#comment-4143</link>
		<dc:creator>JS Narins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 May 2006 05:55:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One second, Galloway attacked the Joint Strike Fighter? No way!

That thing comes with long-range anti-box-cutter lasers and in-flight-shoe-bomb detectors and is exactly what we need today.

Actually, already the Pentagon Budget Padders are complaining that if we cut back on JSF puchases, or reduce the number of allies in the program, it will drive up the price for each plane.

And if we buy less, it will drive up the price yet again.

Pentagon Budget Planners don&#039;t even have a freaking design for the plane, but they can tell you how much extra it will cost!

Galloway criticized Rumsfeld fairly for not dealing with irrelevant weapons systems. The Crusader was, to the best of my knowledge, scrapped.

Maybe just because it was _called_ The Crusader, I couldn&#039;t tell you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One second, Galloway attacked the Joint Strike Fighter? No way!</p>
<p>That thing comes with long-range anti-box-cutter lasers and in-flight-shoe-bomb detectors and is exactly what we need today.</p>
<p>Actually, already the Pentagon Budget Padders are complaining that if we cut back on JSF puchases, or reduce the number of allies in the program, it will drive up the price for each plane.</p>
<p>And if we buy less, it will drive up the price yet again.</p>
<p>Pentagon Budget Planners don&#8217;t even have a freaking design for the plane, but they can tell you how much extra it will cost!</p>
<p>Galloway criticized Rumsfeld fairly for not dealing with irrelevant weapons systems. The Crusader was, to the best of my knowledge, scrapped.</p>
<p>Maybe just because it was _called_ The Crusader, I couldn&#8217;t tell you.</p>
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		<title>By: JS Narins</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/217/schooling-don-rumsfeld/#comment-4142</link>
		<dc:creator>JS Narins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 May 2006 05:44:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Does Rummy have secret plans? I don&#039;t know, but DiRita explains why Rumsfeld is a complete failure with his own words...


&quot;You talk about &#039;Rumsfeld&#039;s fondest ideas and theories&#039; as if you have the first clue as to what those are.  I have worked with him side-by-side for five years, and I wouldn&#039;t even try to divine what his fondest ideas and theories are.&quot;

Does DiRita _really_ not know what Rumsfeld wants?

I know he&#039;s more of a PR guy than an XO, but still, the Bush administration is government-by-PR, so, anyway, DiRita was particularly pathetic.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Does Rummy have secret plans? I don&#8217;t know, but DiRita explains why Rumsfeld is a complete failure with his own words&#8230;</p>
<p>&#8220;You talk about &#8216;Rumsfeld&#8217;s fondest ideas and theories&#8217; as if you have the first clue as to what those are.  I have worked with him side-by-side for five years, and I wouldn&#8217;t even try to divine what his fondest ideas and theories are.&#8221;</p>
<p>Does DiRita _really_ not know what Rumsfeld wants?</p>
<p>I know he&#8217;s more of a PR guy than an XO, but still, the Bush administration is government-by-PR, so, anyway, DiRita was particularly pathetic.</p>
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		<title>By: EasyRider</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/217/schooling-don-rumsfeld/#comment-4141</link>
		<dc:creator>EasyRider</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 May 2006 10:53:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Go Gallaway! Thanks!</description>
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		<title>By: scott and lorelei diguglielmo</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/217/schooling-don-rumsfeld/#comment-4140</link>
		<dc:creator>scott and lorelei diguglielmo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 May 2006 07:10:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>time will show galloway is right and darita a shill. is it not amazing how all of these people with multiple years of combat experience and military leadership are wrong, subversive, liberal(?), and the a.w.o.l., never wore a military uniform, had better things to do, war hawks, know how to run a war?  kinda defies logic.

i keep hearing from my GOP friends that history will show the president made the right decisions to go to war and how it was run.  well, 3 years of historical perspective looks like the administration lied us into a war that the project for a new american century outlined and wanted for the U.S. to be the worlds only superpower.
how many years do we have to let a failing and flawed policy continue before we say it is a failure?
does anyone else see that the Taliban in Afghanistan has seats in their parliament, has its own news spokesman, and is regrouping stronger than before.  mission accomplished my ass.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>time will show galloway is right and darita a shill. is it not amazing how all of these people with multiple years of combat experience and military leadership are wrong, subversive, liberal(?), and the a.w.o.l., never wore a military uniform, had better things to do, war hawks, know how to run a war?  kinda defies logic.</p>
<p>i keep hearing from my GOP friends that history will show the president made the right decisions to go to war and how it was run.  well, 3 years of historical perspective looks like the administration lied us into a war that the project for a new american century outlined and wanted for the U.S. to be the worlds only superpower.<br />
how many years do we have to let a failing and flawed policy continue before we say it is a failure?<br />
does anyone else see that the Taliban in Afghanistan has seats in their parliament, has its own news spokesman, and is regrouping stronger than before.  mission accomplished my ass.</p>
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		<title>By: neil</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/217/schooling-don-rumsfeld/#comment-4139</link>
		<dc:creator>neil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 May 2006 12:25:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What an amazing exchange. Galloway&#039;s reason and common sense on one side, and Di Rita&#039;s clueless defensiveness on the other. It seems like an inherent trait with these guys - to miss the entire point of any criticism, and counter it with talking points and meaningless generalizations.

Galloway&#039;s final e-mail in the string simply blew me away. Rumsfeld has surrounded himself with Republican political operatives, a pattern that shows itself over and over in all the departments of gevernment with this Administration - from FEMA to the Pentagon. 

None of the main players in the Admin have known war. It has become a truism that those who have seen war are always more reluctant to apply it than those who have never seen it - or in this case, an entire administration made up of people who did their damndest to never, ever see it. 

Greedy, stupid men like these never know what they&#039;ve done - even after it&#039;s too late. They&#039;ll congratulate themselves on a job well done, even though they&#039;ve royally screwed up. Rummy and his cohorts will blame somebody else for their failures - Bill Clinton, Liberals, the Media - anyone but themselves. And then they&#039;ll get medals and/or pardons. What a pit of vipers that run this country now!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What an amazing exchange. Galloway&#8217;s reason and common sense on one side, and Di Rita&#8217;s clueless defensiveness on the other. It seems like an inherent trait with these guys &#8211; to miss the entire point of any criticism, and counter it with talking points and meaningless generalizations.</p>
<p>Galloway&#8217;s final e-mail in the string simply blew me away. Rumsfeld has surrounded himself with Republican political operatives, a pattern that shows itself over and over in all the departments of gevernment with this Administration &#8211; from FEMA to the Pentagon. </p>
<p>None of the main players in the Admin have known war. It has become a truism that those who have seen war are always more reluctant to apply it than those who have never seen it &#8211; or in this case, an entire administration made up of people who did their damndest to never, ever see it. </p>
<p>Greedy, stupid men like these never know what they&#8217;ve done &#8211; even after it&#8217;s too late. They&#8217;ll congratulate themselves on a job well done, even though they&#8217;ve royally screwed up. Rummy and his cohorts will blame somebody else for their failures &#8211; Bill Clinton, Liberals, the Media &#8211; anyone but themselves. And then they&#8217;ll get medals and/or pardons. What a pit of vipers that run this country now!</p>
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		<title>By: Thinker</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/217/schooling-don-rumsfeld/#comment-4138</link>
		<dc:creator>Thinker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 May 2006 23:43:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Again some excellent work Mr Murder. I know little of the backround to President Ahmadinejad but, contrary to the strategic Iranian intellectual dissenters that the Western mass media keep focusing on, I would argue that Iran has become extra-ordinarily liberal considering what it was like when Khomeini was running things.

And me must also remember that the Shah was pretty much hated by his people, but loved by the West. And courtesy of Carter the US made a right ass of itself with her spiteful dummy spit. And look at the problems that ensued, how they employed a bully boy in Saddam Hussein to deliver &quot;approriate retribution&quot;. And then they betrayed that bully boy when he tried to put his country on the map daring to nationalise (spittt - ding) the oil industry.

That is really what the US clever people should take heed of. You cannot continually lie to, cheat and betray other nations without expecting to cop the flack when you need them to co-operate. And that&#039;s the wider debate. I see, as mentioned before, some horrific outcomes of this hand of cards. That&#039;s it is why it is important for the sane and sensible to take control and put the breaks on things otherwise all kinds of nastiness will come to bear on great and small.

In summary, I do hope you are right Mr M, though I have no confidence. No confidence whatsoever, right now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Again some excellent work Mr Murder. I know little of the backround to President Ahmadinejad but, contrary to the strategic Iranian intellectual dissenters that the Western mass media keep focusing on, I would argue that Iran has become extra-ordinarily liberal considering what it was like when Khomeini was running things.</p>
<p>And me must also remember that the Shah was pretty much hated by his people, but loved by the West. And courtesy of Carter the US made a right ass of itself with her spiteful dummy spit. And look at the problems that ensued, how they employed a bully boy in Saddam Hussein to deliver &#8220;approriate retribution&#8221;. And then they betrayed that bully boy when he tried to put his country on the map daring to nationalise (spittt &#8211; ding) the oil industry.</p>
<p>That is really what the US clever people should take heed of. You cannot continually lie to, cheat and betray other nations without expecting to cop the flack when you need them to co-operate. And that&#8217;s the wider debate. I see, as mentioned before, some horrific outcomes of this hand of cards. That&#8217;s it is why it is important for the sane and sensible to take control and put the breaks on things otherwise all kinds of nastiness will come to bear on great and small.</p>
<p>In summary, I do hope you are right Mr M, though I have no confidence. No confidence whatsoever, right now.</p>
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		<title>By: Gypsy</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/217/schooling-don-rumsfeld/#comment-4137</link>
		<dc:creator>Gypsy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 May 2006 08:12:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As a daughter of A WWII Soldier who landed on Omaha beach June 6, 1944, I am so offended by the casualness that has been taken by Rumsfield and this administration with the lives of our soldiers.  I believe they are such heros for still being willing to go back, and if we win in Iraq it will be because of them and not because of the leadership.  I know what the cost of war is on a soldier up close and personal and I think these guys should be shot for treason for cooking the books on intelligence to get us into an idealogical war.
Thanks again for a great debate.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a daughter of A WWII Soldier who landed on Omaha beach June 6, 1944, I am so offended by the casualness that has been taken by Rumsfield and this administration with the lives of our soldiers.  I believe they are such heros for still being willing to go back, and if we win in Iraq it will be because of them and not because of the leadership.  I know what the cost of war is on a soldier up close and personal and I think these guys should be shot for treason for cooking the books on intelligence to get us into an idealogical war.<br />
Thanks again for a great debate.</p>
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		<title>By: Mr.Murder</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/217/schooling-don-rumsfeld/#comment-4136</link>
		<dc:creator>Mr.Murder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 May 2006 03:12:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They also hid the Navy logs of monitoring the Oil for Food program. Much of that info could help realistically determine the impact of action taken at that place on the map, it effect upon the oil shipping routes. Is our Navy able to take on that task at all or would the risk be too great in cost benefits? Can we be the escort cops for the entire world&#039;s oil supply, or is that still one of the papers in Condi Rice&#039;s closet waiting to be spoken of in &#039;08?

One reason Oil for Food logs were kept mum was Dubai being an item in the laundering chain. The other being Saudi Arabia, using oil for food as a way of hiding peak oil capacaties. Unload it at one side of the Trans-Arabvian pipeline in the Indian Ocean and send it back out on the Mediterranean side.


The collateral effect of battles there would shut down the world economy and cause massive economic collapse. Iran is the fulcrum of oil shipping lanes.


Rummy doesn&#039;t seem to care.

As for taking out Iran&#039;s leader... yeah he&#039;s flake, but he&#039;s a young flake. Put one of the old school mullahs in there and see how flaky things get. Consider him a blessing. Bush already does or he would not have launched rhetoric to help the man get in office.  AWOL did so at crucial points in their election cycle.
A smirk and a grin later, he shrugs shoulders at high oil prices...

When will the grown ups be in charge again?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They also hid the Navy logs of monitoring the Oil for Food program. Much of that info could help realistically determine the impact of action taken at that place on the map, it effect upon the oil shipping routes. Is our Navy able to take on that task at all or would the risk be too great in cost benefits? Can we be the escort cops for the entire world&#8217;s oil supply, or is that still one of the papers in Condi Rice&#8217;s closet waiting to be spoken of in &#8217;08?</p>
<p>One reason Oil for Food logs were kept mum was Dubai being an item in the laundering chain. The other being Saudi Arabia, using oil for food as a way of hiding peak oil capacaties. Unload it at one side of the Trans-Arabvian pipeline in the Indian Ocean and send it back out on the Mediterranean side.</p>
<p>The collateral effect of battles there would shut down the world economy and cause massive economic collapse. Iran is the fulcrum of oil shipping lanes.</p>
<p>Rummy doesn&#8217;t seem to care.</p>
<p>As for taking out Iran&#8217;s leader&#8230; yeah he&#8217;s flake, but he&#8217;s a young flake. Put one of the old school mullahs in there and see how flaky things get. Consider him a blessing. Bush already does or he would not have launched rhetoric to help the man get in office.  AWOL did so at crucial points in their election cycle.<br />
A smirk and a grin later, he shrugs shoulders at high oil prices&#8230;</p>
<p>When will the grown ups be in charge again?</p>
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		<title>By: Mary</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/217/schooling-don-rumsfeld/#comment-4135</link>
		<dc:creator>Mary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 May 2006 01:55:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for this post...maybe, the Vichy dems will take a stand for the country and our world...what a total disaster for everyone...I am so tired of feeling the pain for so many that have lost their life, liberty and pursuit of happiness at the hands of those in power in my country.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for this post&#8230;maybe, the Vichy dems will take a stand for the country and our world&#8230;what a total disaster for everyone&#8230;I am so tired of feeling the pain for so many that have lost their life, liberty and pursuit of happiness at the hands of those in power in my country.</p>
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		<title>By: Graybeard</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/217/schooling-don-rumsfeld/#comment-4134</link>
		<dc:creator>Graybeard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 May 2006 00:55:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Imagine a Dem Congress brave enough to recognize the World Court, and then to hand these war crminals over for extradition - after the impeachment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Imagine a Dem Congress brave enough to recognize the World Court, and then to hand these war crminals over for extradition &#8211; after the impeachment.</p>
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		<title>By: mboy</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/217/schooling-don-rumsfeld/#comment-4133</link>
		<dc:creator>mboy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 May 2006 14:01:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>thanks for the post larry. thanks to joe galloway as well. rumsfeld is proving himself to being the worst sec. of defense in history.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>thanks for the post larry. thanks to joe galloway as well. rumsfeld is proving himself to being the worst sec. of defense in history.</p>
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		<title>By: Leslie</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/217/schooling-don-rumsfeld/#comment-4132</link>
		<dc:creator>Leslie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 May 2006 12:56:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Joe Galloway is a hero of mine. A good friend, who used to be the editor of a local paper, is friends with him. I&#039;ve communicated with Galloway once or twice through my friend. So I feel as if we&#039;ve met [although we never have], which makes me feel closer to his passion to defend America&#039;s soldiers and the truth of his words.

Excellent post Larry! Of course, don&#039;t expect Rumpsfeld or DiRita to get a clue.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Joe Galloway is a hero of mine. A good friend, who used to be the editor of a local paper, is friends with him. I&#8217;ve communicated with Galloway once or twice through my friend. So I feel as if we&#8217;ve met [although we never have], which makes me feel closer to his passion to defend America&#8217;s soldiers and the truth of his words.</p>
<p>Excellent post Larry! Of course, don&#8217;t expect Rumpsfeld or DiRita to get a clue.</p>
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		<title>By: KathyF</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/217/schooling-don-rumsfeld/#comment-4131</link>
		<dc:creator>KathyF</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 May 2006 04:00:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I like your modifiers better.</description>
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