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Hillary Understands Pennsylvania Values

By Fleaflicker on April 14, 2008 at 6:33 PM in Hillary Clinton, Pennsylvania

The latest ad to be marketed in Pennsylvania. Very effective I think. What say you?

  • Bud White

    I’m so glad that she went with this ad. This is the narrative of the campaign from here on out, and that doesn’t bode well for Barry.

    • Jamie Boylin

      This just shows the short-sightedness of Hillary’s campaign so far. I don’t care WHAT kind of ad Hillary puts up there; in this election, it doesn’t matter!

      Look, I’m a supporter of hers, but this reliance on “good ads” and traditional media-driven nonsense is getting her killed. We sit around and slap each other on the back saying, “well, that was a great attack ad!” while Obama has people on the ground organizing a grassroots army to mow her down. It’s a different kind of election, one that emphasizes organizational prowess.

      Hillary should take a page from the book of the guy who she wrote her senior thesis on, Saul Alinsky. It’s about PEOPLE, not “great TV spots”. This column in today’s San Jose Mercury News explains it perfectly.

      STOP THE EMPHASIS ON CRAPPY ADS! MORE MONEY TOWARDS ORGANIZATION and MOBILIZATION!

      • Salo

        she had enough cash. Enough good press.

        Obama has fanatical antiwar activists and the equally fanatical and deluded AA churches threatening riots in Denver.

        There’s not much she can do about the if the press bury the reality of what is going on. She’s also a candidate with too much baggage from Bill’s years. She’s got a solid group of Working Class loyalists but the workers always lose.

        Enough people on the intellectual left got angry with him and are taking out their hatred on her.

        The Rightwingers and press have brilliantly used this animus and have tipped the balance to the neophyte ringer Barack Obama.

        What could she have done in tha face of the press suppressing Wright, Rezko and the fictional biography that Obama has presented?

      • JoeVeteran

        Honestly, I think that this ad is the way to go in those states. They know who they are and how they feel. She needs to keep letting them know that she understands them. The other ad with the job losses is the alternate because she was speaking in rallies here in CA about people needing jobs, needing solutions not rhetoric. The message is the same. Some people are out of work and they need tother people to help them solve that.

    • Amanda

      Pa4truth...ENOUGH SAID...

  • Salo

    The God angle really kills him.

    She avoided bitter.

    • blobert

      it is superb, because she can avoid being booed by Obama operatives when she says it in speeches, and it reaches more people.
      She should run similar ads in all the states with primaries coming up.

      • blobert

        to get picky – “guns or religion” is not read clearly. Those words are run together. And they’re the most important of the VO.
        A Madison avenue spot would patch in another take or do have it re-read.

  • mel

    Well it says it all doesn’t it!

    How many think it is easy on Obama compared to what the GOP would say about Obama’s words?

    Hopefully Obama will go hide behind a duck blind with his 6 shooter and a jug of his kool aide now!

    • JoeVeteran

      Yeah, it easy on Obama. Yet, I attended a caucus to vote for our local delegates who will represent us in Denver. Our Senator Sam Farr showed up late and gave a pep talk about getting along with the other candidates people and getting together under the same team after the Nomination. More than a few of were hot about his reluctance to take a side. Well, we cornered him over a local issue–young women being harassed on campus by Obama guys. He said he had not heard of that. A circle had formed around us when I turned to them and asked, “Haven’t you all seen what has been going on with the negativity on the internet and the abuse people get from the Obama supporters?” Everyone nodded their heads up and down. So, she is under the pressure of those kinds of jerks.

  • Kevin

    Question for you Flea… is PA some isolated case that is different from the rest of the nation? If not, then how come her message hasn’t overpowered Obama? If he’s such a clueless, tool of the machine, pandering, racist, misogynist, etc. etc. – then why hasn’t Hillary done better?

    • Kevin

      and if it is – then how does she become automatically more electable? Seriously – if she can’t defeat a “non” threat now – then how the hell is she going to win the GE?

      Oh, wait – let me guess, it’s because the media has helped… what’s the phrase of the month? Yeah – Hoodwink the rest of america… those poor besotted by optimism or whatever clods.

      So again… where’s her “anti-koolaid”? And why’s she going to wait til the last minute to use it?

      ROFLMAO

      • Salo

        She’s been over a barrel with the media. She could not have released the Wright tapes and make an issue of them herself without being called a racist. She sat on them was called a racist anyway. She’d also have been called a vicious _____ for using religion to whip Obama if she’d been involved in the tapes release in December.

        Now that ABC decided to open up on Obama with the release of the Wright tapes Clinton has slightly more leeway to Knock Out Obama with his own predjudices about Guns, God, Racism and Xenophobia.

        She’s not done a negative ad so far and this is the first one in the Dem race! It’s what she should have done in Iowa.

        • bert

          Salo:

          “She’s not done a negative ad so far and this is the first one in the Dem race! It’s what she should have done in Iowa.”

          I agree. I received another contribute request today from Geoff Garin. In addition to the request to donate Mr. Garin asked what I wanted to see Hillary’s campaign do. I wrote the following and sent it in:

          I know it is not PC; I know that it is bad form to attack another Democrat; and I know Hillary has taken the high road and been behaving in a very classy manner towards Obama.

          Nevertheless, I really wish Hillary would or could find a way to attack Obama more. TAKE THE GLOVES OFF.

          I realize Obama’s campaign has done a good job of defecting criticisms on the ISSUES by diverting attention to petty issues that Hillary has to waste time responding to.

          More ads like the 3pm ad, and more like how she went after Obama’s “bitter’ remarks this weekend are good.

          There is more than enough stuff out there on Obama that she can kick it up a notch or two and still take the high road.

        • Kevin

          Salo – Wright has been around for a long, long time. He’s been controversial within chicago, the state, regionally and nationally for more than 20 freakin’ years.

          Are you honestly trying to tell me that the information was so well hidden prior to 2007 at the very least? That some good citizen(s) such as yourself, etc. couldn’t have spread the word? There were no blogs, no 527s, etc.? Please…

          “Knock Out Obama with his own predjudices about Guns, God, Racism and Xenophobia”

          Right, so Bill didn’t make almost the exact same comment regarding isolation and bitterness in ’91 and later? Hillary while being pro-gun has pushed what the NRA described as being anti? Xenophobia????

          • Salo

            first i’ve heard of it. seriously.

          • http://hyper-educated-uppity-woman.blogspot.com Uppity

            I never heard of that tool Wright till Barack Obama. I never heard of Rashid Kahlidi till Barack Obama. I forgot about Bill Ayers till Barack Obama. Didn’t think much about Farrakhan till Barack Obama. 527s are very good at all of this.

        • JoeVeteran

          I pray that she starts hitting the nail on the head harder and harder. I was so glad to wake up and read that over a 100 PA Mayors stated that they were offended in an open letter. Several Indiana Mayors and Montana officials also did the same. That made my day.

      • sisterdo

        Hillary wins blue states (NY, CA, NJ, etc.), FL, and
        keeps barely blue states like PA blue. She can even have a little wiggle room winning Arkansas.

        Obama’s strategy— disenfranchise FLORIDA??? And Michigan? What in the hell is he thinking? FU FLORIDA? FLORIDA?

        And insult PA?????

        And then there’s “typical white people,” “small towns clinging to their religion and guns,” and other groups rightfully having trouble with his associates like Reverend Wright.

        • JM

          Hi Sisterdo,

          I still can’t get on Taylor Marsh’s site.

          nomobama

      • http://hyper-educated-uppity-woman.blogspot.com Uppity

        ROFLMAO

        Nervous laugh gets louder.

    • mel

      Kevin, simple to answer, because Obama has enlisted the likes of you, that in a nutshell says it all!

      More kool aide Kevin?

    • Salo

      Obama, with the media complying at every step hid away the nuttiness of Wright…he’s also hidden his What’s the matter with Kansas?analysis of Middle America.

      If the Obama friendly media have only now discovered the Wright tapes and how Obama habitually speaks in private about voters religious beleifs–they have both deliberatly sabotaged the long term prospects of the party. They sat on the tapes until Obama was a sure thing.

      I’d like a do over in Iowa in the light of the new information that has surfaced about Obama’s religion and analysis of rural voters clingy folk ways. We won’t even go into how he thinks Democratic primary voters are Xenophobes and racists for not voting for him.

      • Bill Delyon

        Speaks in private?

        Mercy…..

        Man, there must be a lot of kool-aide flowin in america right now…

        Did you hear how Wild Hillary Hickok’s “obama talked down to you people” went??

        The silence after the boo’s said it all…..

        Who’s drinking the kool-aide???

        • Salo

          have you seen the downward spiral of Obama’s polling?

          That says it all.

        • mel

          you mean by the obamabots who were there that did the booing? What tickets was camp obama giving away this time to control a Clinton function?

          • Bill Delyon

            As the rotors to the black helicopters silently swish above the clitonistas heads….

            swish swish swish………..

            • BloggerBoyz

              Yes, well, gun toting religious nuts ARE more prone to conspiracy theories, you know. It’s too bad national election results have more influence than the result of the MSNBC employee straw poll.

            • http://hyper-educated-uppity-woman.blogspot.com Uppity

              Yawn.

          • JM

            At least Hillary’s supporters have the respect to keep their f’cking mouths shut when the a$$hole Obama speaks.

            • Bill Delyon

              swish swish swish…..

              • The Gringo’s Wife

                That’s not a helicopter cutie pie. The Koolaide does have those side effects. Makes americans cling to guns and religion and not vote for black men (I think that was the gist).

                Don’t worry. The swooshing sound is just the “Hill Yeah!” fly swatters used whenever a dizy Obamabot fly meanders away from the manure they circle and tries to deposit some of the dung here.

                You can’t argue Obama is full of shit.

            • Kathy

              Obama kind of stunk at last night’s debate. The Bosnia story was brought up again reflecting Senator Clinton’s credibility. Yawn, Yawn

              All I can say in her behalf, at least she didn’t run down the tarmac yelling “God Damn America” and throw viles of HIV/AIDS virus at everyone. I’m sure THAT disappointed Obama and Rev. Wright supporters.

        • BloggerBoyz

          Thank you! It doesn’t matter who wins PA by what landslide, it matters whether wealthy college students respond negatively to attacks on working class people. I really don’t understand why this isn’t more widely understood.

    • Janis

      How about because since the Wright scandal and hit latest flareup of foot-in-mouth disease there hasn’t been a single damned primary and you know it?

      We’re all sitting back and waiting. Except you guys are a hell of a lot more nervous than we are.

      You people act like we found out about Wright and Snobgate last October, and not a single voter has been shown to care. Hello! NO ONE’S VOTED WITH THAT KNOWLEDGE YET!

      They will, though. Real soon now.

      • Salo

        Michigan should be redone. Iowa should be redone.

        The press kept Wright hidden away –like a mad uncle in an English Castle…

        • ginaswo

          like Rochester wife…

        • Kathy

          Well said. Something has bothered me regarding Reverend Wright. Not only his words, but the attendees were cheering and urging him on. I noticed when Obama was compairing Senator Clinton to Annie Oakely… he had the same sing-song, preacher kind of voice.

          Many years back, German Jews saw this same type of hatred and elitist remarks. They thought that the speaker of these words could never come to power.

          Obama scares me.

    • JM

      Hillary has been in the public eye (of the whole the USA)for years. Barack Obama is a no-name politician who was primarily known in his home state of Illinois. Barack is finally being vetted, and for the many people who are unfamiliar with him, they are just now beginning to develop their opinions of him.

    • raymo

      I don’t know, I keep thinking those red state caucus “wins” where Obama’s thugs disenfranchised a whole lot of voters didn’t represent the true will of the people. I think most of his so-called wins are B.S.

      Just sayin’

    • Linda

      I am not flea but I can tell you one aspect of how he is in the place he’s in: he has outspent Hillary at least three to one. Also, Obama has the romance of being a blank slate for young, impressionable people to project their hopes and dreams on. Finally, he has used racism to appeal to black voters. It is no accident that he is getting 80-90% of the black vote. He is pushing the buttons that trigger both the black vote and the white guilt vote. Because he is willing to do that, however, he has lost all possibility of any support for him by many of us.

    • Jack

      Ad looked like shit. Sorry.

  • http://www.fiscalliberal.com fiscalliberal

    Somewhere I saw the video of Hillary chugging a couple at the bar with the boys. She looked very competent in that role for a 60 year old person.

    I bet she was pretty good in school also. Probably not Wellsley, but probably at Yale.

    :-)

    • Salo

      A president who can hold her drink! And shoot sitting ducks with a six shooter.

      • Janis

        If she can hit a duck with a revolver after a shot of Crown Royal, hell — she can give Superman a run for his money!

      • ginaswo

        I read she outdrank McCranky once in shots on a challenge? Slovakia?

    • Michaela22

      you, my friend…have ma vicious, sexist tounge…go to hell!

      • Michaela22

        you made me so mad…I did not check my spelling…I wanted to say…

        Your remarks were vicious and they came from a sexist tongue…

    • John

      The guy filling in for Bill Press on Air America mentioned HIllary drinking at a bar, then played a tape of her giving a speech in slow motion. Many yuks all around.

      Good old Air Obama Radio.

      This loser went on to say “Of COURSE we are bitter, and what’s wrong with saying that?” — missing the point completely, of course.

      I swear, if Obama said “I like vanilla ice cream, you stupid typical white motherfucking crackers,” Air America would go 24/7 with “Obama said he likes vanilla ice cream, and Hillary goes after him? What’s wrong with liking vanilla ice cream? I LIKE Vanilla Ice Cream, lot of people do, it’s about time we had a candidate willing to tell us the truth!”

      I also heard the “Obama was raised by a single mother on the mean streets of Chicago” canard again- this time from John Zogby. What a load of crap.

      • Catriley

        OMG John. You summed it up. The terrified trolls and the fawning media and the GOP assisted media are deliberately missing the point. The point is not bitterness or economic problems, the point is he trashed their lifestyle and beliefs to be clever at his fancy house party.

      • http://1strepublic14thstar.blogspot.com/ 1st Republic 14th Star

        You’re right. The point is not that middle class voters are bitter, it’s that Obama suggested that some of their cultural traits are manifestations of that bitterness, which is ridiculous. People don’t go to church or the rod and gun club because they’re mad. Yhey go because they like it, and the people they know like it, and their parents liked it, and so did their grandparents. In other words, it’s cultural, not a symptom of some temporary emotional distress. The fact that Obama can be so cavalier about how these voters feel and think shows how shallow he is, in my view.

        Now Obama’s bitching about “molehill politics” and the distortion of his comments. All I can say to that is, it’s ABOUT TIME! Let him deal with what Hillary and Bill Clinton deal with every second of every day. I can’t tell you how many times I’ve read some variation of “EVERYTHING The Clintons say is scripted, planned in advance, and part of a larger strategy…” REALLY? EVERYTHING?

        The Clintons are also the only ones subjected to the kind or word parsing of their every statements that they get routinely — NO ONE else is held to that standard. McCain can say “yes” one day and “no” the next about the SAME topic and be called a straight talker. Hillary can say “sky blue” one day and “baby blue” the next and be accused of lying or “saying and doing anything” to attract votes. If Obama is really ready to be nominated and win and carry out the duties of the presidency, then he’ll show it by weathering the little bit of criticism and scrutiny he’s currently undergoing.

        • ginaswo

          perhaps since he has no tradition he truly respects as his own, just a series of other roles he wears, maybe that leaves him unable to grasp that faith and hunting and work itself are loved and cherished in middle America,and in the city where I live too…

        • TeakWoodKite

          Obama suggested that some of their cultural traits are manifestations of that bitterness

          Ironic that this is what emaenates from Obama’s church. BO is a wornout tea bag.

      • BloggerBoyz

        If they stay true to form, I think there’s a pretty fair chance that Obama’s team is designing their entire electoral strategy around Obama getting up at every campaign event and screaming “vote for me, you stupid motherfucking crackers!”

        And NBC has Andrea Mitchell on tap to explain that this will create tremendous support among stupid motherfucking crackers, who are truly honored to have the attention of the Messiah.

        • ginaswo

          ROTFMAO!! Thank you that was great!
          Ahh man :0>

        • ginaswo

          read it again and laughed out loud AGAIN!

      • http://hyper-educated-uppity-woman.blogspot.com Uppity

        Look up John Zogby’s brothe Jim/James and understand how useful his polls are this year.

  • mel

    OT a tad, after Obama’s words last week, there is no doubts anymore that Obama purposely snubbed Hillary at the State of the Union address!

    • Fleaflicker

      Totally agree. But I didn’t need any convincing or other proof.

      • mel

        back then, it was a tad iffy, but after the bigot came out of the closet, no doubts anymore!

  • http://www.fiscalliberal.com fiscalliberal

    Comment by Kevin | 2008-04-14 18:39:28

    I think a large part of it is the media picking the winner.

    Elizabeth Edwards talked about this at the Kennedy School at Harvard. She used the example of Joe Biden who could not get the media’s attention despite the fact that he was one of the most qualified persons.

    • Kevin

      the media can attempt to sway voters, and will I should say, directly or indirectly – however as you can tell her or on sites that support the opposition, people who’ve already made up their minds aren’t going to be swayed that easily.

      Good point(s) however. But I tell you what, I don’t blame the media – I blame the voters for not taking the time to inform themselves beyond sound bites spoon fed to them.

      • Salo

        Voters in Iowa were not allowed to see the Wright tapes because the media appears to have blacked them out for months.

        Blame the voters why don’t you.

        • Fleaflicker

          because the media appears to have blacked them out

          Careful. Someone might accuse you of being a racist.

          • Salo

            I don’t mind. It’s a conversation about race after all I suppose.

            • http://hyper-educated-uppity-woman.blogspot.com Uppity

              That’s not how that conversation is supposed to go. It’s supposed to go like this:

              1. We get to say anything we want about you white people

              2. You white people had better watch what you say.

        • Kevin

          Alright then, let’s see if I’m following you –

          You’re saying that no one in Iowa had seen or
          been told about the Wright? Which begs the question, how come it hasn’t come out before?

          As you and Flea have pointed out, the 527s have done their homework. You think they started in March of this year? Come on… Wrights tapes have been out since 2003 (The most played clip) and he’s sparked controversy since then… guess you didn’t hear. But this isn’t his first appearance in the limelight in an unflattering way.

          No one in Idaho has seen the “GD America… chickens coming home to roost”, etc. sermons? Because the media has shut them out – That’s what you’re saying?

          Florida and Michigan I don’t “blame the voters” for as you say. Anything else – if you fall for the okey doke or drink the kool-aid willingly it’s on you.

          • Mel

            Kevin see you got your WORM going tonight, good for uyou, camp Obama will be so proud of their graduate! Give the boy an ipod for being such a good student and using the caucus stacking line again!

            • Kevin

              no, but that does give me a hankerin’ for some good mezcal.

              thanks for the idea

      • Catriley

        Kevin- you’re freakin’ me out when you make sense like that. Why can’t you post like that all the time? You could get out from under that mushroom or bridge you live under, and become a functioning member of the conversant class.

  • Hope

    Because she doesn’t have you, Kevin for an advisor?

    • Kevin

      I’d advise neither because right now they both are less than performing at optimum. Frankly, I’m sick of both – and see them as opposite sides of the same flawed coin… much like the dems and repubs.

      • Janis

        It’s called sour grapes, Kev. Make wine.

        • Kevin

          good wine comes from sweet or semi sweet grapes…

          • Janis

            Nope. Too much sugar content.

  • stillife

    Lou Dobbs just gave it some free airtime – he’s played it twice on his show tonight. He pointed out that Obama hasn’t apologized and yet the MSM claim that he has.

    • Kevin

      are you that lazy that you can’t find out for yourself if an apology occurred?

      http://www.14wfie.com/global/story.asp?s=8157838

      http://news.rgj.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=200880412009

      • mel

        Didn’t occur, were excuses and not an apology, nice try though!

        Sorry your Obama’s real self was exposed, shame shame shame!

      • Fleaflicker

        I don’t think that telling people that you regret that they were offended by what you said because everyone knows you were right is an apology.

        Bring in the WORMs.

      • Janis

        “I’m sorry you got angry when I called you fat.”

        Nice try.

      • grtphoto

        always with the insults, why ask if someone is lazy, it’s really getting old, coming here with your obama mesiah nonsense. Your naive act that he’s winning b/c he is simply a winner is a laugh and you know it. He is the media darling and D.C. insiders do not like the Clintons. It’s hard to get her message out when dirt is flown in her face at every turn. We aren’t complaining we are simply pointing out the unequal treatment and unfair playing field, which by the way, per another poster’s research, is in violation of the fairness doctrine. So who is playing cheap and fast?

        • Kevin

          At least Janis’s comment was funny.

          “always with the insults, why ask if someone is lazy, it’s really getting old, coming here with your obama mesiah nonsense. Your naive act…”

          let’s see – you accuse me of being insulting, then inferring that I was (constantly) pushing some “obama mesiah(sic) nonsense” – please cite, and then attempting to be condescending and thus insulting.

          right… keep practicing

      • Catriley

        He didn’t apologize for the content of his message. He apologized that it offended anyone, but he goes on to say “it’s the truth”. Any married person can spot that trick a mile away. You are expecting an apology and you get.. “gee, sorry you took that wrong”

      • BloggerBoyz

        Lazy, racist, a religious dupe, not a vegan, a hick, and too stupid to see how a weaselly nonapology is really an apology. Come back when you’ve made your first billion and proved your intellectual superiority, stilllife.

      • http://hyper-educated-uppity-woman.blogspot.com Uppity

        Insulted voters shouldn’t have to go hunt for an apology. Besides, his apoology was basically a You People Took It Wrong thing, after a day of sticking to his words besides. OUT OF TOUCH! (squealy voice) OUT OF TOUCH??????? I’M NOT OUT OF TOUCH! (raucuously laughing Zoid crowd). That always works really well when you rub your own stupidity into their faces.

  • stillife

    No – the headlines say that he apologized, but his words were “I could have said it better”. Not an apology.

    • Jack

      He has nothing to apologize for, moron.

  • DEM

    I like Senator Clinton’s new ad. It ‘attacks’ yet is not ‘negative’ — just the right balance, I think. The ‘person on the street’ tack was the right one to take.

    • Fleaflicker

      I agree. Good analysis.

  • TeakwoodKite

    Hey “at optimum”. are you that lazy that you can’t find out for yourself how OBorgs get the daily’s?

  • mel

    Damn it is spring time in Pa and Obama can’t walk on water anymore, such a shame the lakes aren’t frozen over anymore!

    We best all pray Obama isn’t on the phone now with his good friend Ayers planning on bombing the country for rejecting him for being a bigot!

  • Andy

    What’s great about the ad is that isn’t using the word “bitter” because Obama’s camp has been trying to make the whole thing just about the word “bitter” when the important part is the “clinging to religion guns and antipathy because of their frustrations” which is exactly what this ad says. The ad got it just right!!

  • yikes

    My favorite quote in the news cycle today was Obama talking about how ridiculous it was to have two long time Washington insiders who are taking tons of pac and lobbyist money talk about how well they relate to average Americans.

    Hit the nail on the head. If anybody are elitists it’s the stinking Republicans like John McCain who support the Bush tax cuts.

    • mel

      Yesz much nicer to do it the Obama way from Corporate bundlers, cut out the middleman and the fees for collecting that th

      • mel

        computer screw up!

        Obama way, take in bundles from Corporate bundlers instead and not lose money to the lobbyists who take a fee for their services and then those corporate bundlers can go directly to the Whitehouse for payback with no middlemen!

        Yup far better way of staying close to the relationships!

        • Muppity

          I take it you’re voting for Ralph Nader mel.

          • mel

            Muppity, your take is wrong, so try some other Obamabot tactic if you would be so kind, that one is boring!

          • BloggerBoyz

            Right, the ubiquitous refrain of don’t blame Obama, Hillary does it too. Amazing how candidates with such similar records are actually the Progessive Hero We’ve Waited for All Our Lives and the Most Evil Centrist Ever Spawned in the Evil Bowels of the DNC.

    • http://hyper-educated-uppity-woman.blogspot.com Uppity

      Obama has taken 1.7 million from registered lobbyists who bundled for him. Want names? Go to archives of this site. Barack Obama is a smarmy liar.

      • http://hyper-educated-uppity-woman.blogspot.com Uppity

        You might also want to check out his top ten contributors, more than half of them are sub-prime contributors in bundling too. Obama is a smarmy liar. He won’t escape that should he still manage to steal this nomination by disenfranchising two swing states.

  • JoeySky

    Now we have John Kerry, Jr. Such a nice image to stick on Obama. I want to see if Obama campaign will still use Kerry to campaign for him in North PA.

  • Catriley

    Love the ad! I detest ads with fake ‘real’ people. This one is very effective because it’s real people talking. The thing is that Obama never took back what he said, so it’s fair game. He said he regretted it offending some people, but he asserted that what he said was true. He just said it badly. THat’s not an apology for what he said.

    And c’mon, it’s not like it was a fact he got wrong. He spoke his BELIEF about people in small towns in PA. ANd he slammed President Clinton in the process.

    Then he goes on the attack against Hillary in a most disgusting way, his usual “mocking” and “ridiculing”, and the media never bats an eye. Just watch.. the MSM will be all over Hillary like Michelle’s mink coats because of this ad.

    But it’s true. If Obama wants to evoke Annie Oakley to ridicule Hillary, then he’d better be prepared to deal with a feisty Hillary. Stupid move, Obama.

    • deke

      One of the big reasons Hillary supporters will not back Obama is his continual putting down the Clinton administration and holding the Reagan administration up as a model. You don’t do this to a fellow democratic and expect them to kiss and make up.

    • Janis

      I’d love to see her do a photo op with a bunch of women single-action shooters now.

  • http://texasdarlin.wordpress.com TexasDarlin

    love that ad, simple and pointed.

    bring it home, hill.

  • jwrjr

    I suppose that I should post this on an open thread, but after reading through the comments on this thread and several others, there is something that escapes me. How does Obama expect to win in November without the Clinton supporters? He and his supporters are say the most childish, spiteful, personally insulting, and generally offensive things that they can think of to the Clinton supporters and Obama non-supporters. And after that they expect the Clinton supporters to vote for Obama in November? It seems to me that the DEA would find this interesting. (Not that the Clinton supporters are entirely innocent, But the Obama supporters have raised it to the level of an art form.) So how can they expect to win in November?

    • kenoshaMarge

      I’ve asked that dozens of times and BTD over at TalkLeft has tried to talk some sense into rabid Obama supporters and all you get is more insults.

      (A good example is a thread BTD posted yesterday trying to get the Obamans to STFU and they responded by insisting that Hillary supporters would not vote for Obama if he was the nominee “out of spite” and another likes to repeat ad nauseum about the “desperation” of Hillary supporters.

      So when asked to ramp it down Obamans call Hillary supporters, desperate and spiteful. Kinda see how that would make people feel all warm and fuzzy and apt to see your point of view? Or maybe not so much.

      The only thing, apparently, Obamans hate worse than a Republican is another citizen that has the audacity to hope Hillary Clinton is the nominee. Except when we are being spitefully desperate. And bigoted. And clinging to our guns and faith.

      • lifelong dem leaving party

        the obamanuts apparently don’t realize that a vote against their guy counts the same whether it’s out of spite, out of desperation, out of disagreement with his policies, or out of just pushing the wrong button – his specialty.

        in my case, i think i’ll vote against him out of spite and out of disagreement with his policies. too bad i can’t make it count twice.

  • http://Supergram.blogspot.com Melissa

    Now that the cat is out of the bag, so to speak (is that racist? or republican?) let’s see what the voters think of Mr. Snobama. Not much I bet.
    And since when was his early life so horrible??? The facts are he went to private school all his life. He was raised in Hawaii by his grandparents! Remember Grandma? The typical white woman, first female bank VP that he threw under the bus??? He had a priviledged childhood and has absolutely NOTHING in common with us regular people.
    Remember us- the people he and his buyers in SF were laughing at, the ones who are clingy???

    We are voting here in a few more days!

    • Salo

      the cat was for flogging English soldiers and sailors.

      No big deal.

  • Susan

    I am among millions of Americans who are of good conscience and believe in the rightness of liberty and justice for all.

    I am among millions of Americans who have served this great nation of ours through a tour of duty in the military … one who stood ready to give whatever sacrifice was necessary to preserve and to secure the freedoms guaranteed by our Constitution.

    I am among millions of Americans who have marched in protests, stood in picket lines, been sprayed with fire hoses, been shot with rubber bullets, doused with tear gas and one who has mourned with the families of those who gave their lives for the furtherance of civil rights, affirmative action and all basic human rights.

    I am among millions of Americans who have jeopardized their careers, their homes and their livelihood to stand up and speak out against discrimination and inequality, rather than stand silently by in witness of the mistreatment of others.

    I am among millions of Americans who have turned out for every election, no matter how small, to vote my conscience and to provide a level playing field for every American of every race and color.

    I am among millions of Americans who take a stand daily … in what they say, what they write and what they do … for the rights and dignity of all.

    And I believe I am among millions upon millions of Americans who want recognition for the sacrifices we have made over the past 40 years that have made the current candidacies of the Democratic primaries and caucuses possible. Without the sacrifices we have made, neither of these candidates would be where they are today. Without our commitment to civil rights, affirmative action and non-discrimination policies, neither candidacy would be possible. And without us, neither one will reach the White House.

    I believe I am among millions of Americans who want a candidate who recognizes us … among millions who want a candidate to acknowledge that our commitment and sacrifices have helped them become the living proof of our success thus far … among millions who want a candidate that promises to build on what we have built … among millions who want a candidate who recognizes that we cannot hold a clear vision of the future without having a clear understanding of the past … the bad and most assuredly, the good we, as a nation, have done.

    And though we have done many wrong things, we most certainly have done as many, if not more, right things. I believe millions of fellow Americans believe this, as well.

    If you are a candidate who cannot recognize the good of our past … please go home.

    If you are a candidate who cannot acknowledge the sacrifices of so many for the good of the whole, please go away.

    If you are not a candidate who believes that we as a nation have built a solid foundation of commitment to civil rights, affirmative action and non-discrimination on which to build our future of true liberty and justice for all, please leave the stage.

    I am among millions of Americans who want a leader who believes not only in the building up of what is already good in America … but a leader who believes in the basic decency and goodness of the American people as a whole. We are worthy of your recognition.

    I am among millions of Americans who want a president who is willing to serve as we have served … a president who recognizes the duty, we as Americans have, to do whatever is necessary to move forward into that state of union that recognizes, preserves and builds upon the basic rights of our vital, beautiful diversity … past, present and future.

    Hillary Rodham Clinton recognizes me and millions of Americans like me.

    Hillary ’08