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Some Time Out for Elizabeth Edwards

We’ve written many times about Elizabeth Edwards at this blog: in “Elizabeth Edwards Prefers Hillary’s Healthcare Plan“; in my report on an earlier L.A. Times article indicating her preference for Hillary’s health care plan; in “Kneecappers,” which includes an account of Elizabeth’s impressions of Obama at a meeting at the Edwards’s home; and in “From FactCheck.org: Obama’s ‘creative’ clippings,” which references Elizabeth’s condemnation of Obama’s misleading health care radio ad in Iowa. (There are more stories about Mrs. Edwards’ views here.)

A fortunate blogger was given the opportunity to interview Elizabeth Edwards, and has written a remarkably readable and cohesive piece, published April 14, about the interview and the woman who we’ve all come to admire. (For the record, I always considered John Edwards my strong second choice for president. I wish it were he remaining the race against Hillary Clinton because, then, I would have far fewer concerns about the eventual victor in the Democration nomination process.)

The blogger is Morra Aarons at BlogHer blog. Here are some excerpts:

… When [Elizabeth Edwards] spoke at Harvard’s Kennedy School last week the thrust of her public address was this: campaign coverage focuses less on substance and more on personality. In a race dominated by two “mega-celebrities,” she used Senator Joe Biden as an example of media slight that created an avalanche of negative effects on one “by any measure a serious candidate.” Biden had but one appearance on the front page of the New York Times. There were more news articles about Elizabeth than about ten of the presidential candidates! The “narrative template” of the media’s choosing was an African American man and a woman. And the media went there, and the result was sky-high ratings for election news.

I remember those days well. It was indeed odd to see such highly experienced men like Sen. Joe Biden and Sen. Chris Dodd in the debates, barely getting a chance to speak but, when they were allowed, contributing much to the discussion.

Those were the days when we had an embarrassment of riches in our candidate choices. Now, not so much.

More Elizabeth and Morra:

“Who got to decide this?” she asked about the media’s anointment of certain candidates over others. “Whoever decided this probably also decided that Fred Thompson was a serious candidate for president.” She pleaded for less Britney Spears, who even graced the Atlantic Monthly’s cover, and more dissection of critical issues like health policy. Instead we get “strobe light” journalism to make the sound bite. You have to craft a “zinger,” she noted. Mrs. Edwards can master the zinger but she is a truly thoughtful person and I wish she were running for president. So much for journalistic objectivity, there, but I’m no journalist.

The Atlantic Monthly‘s editors put Britney on their cover? Then I’m glad I didn’t renew my subscription.

But the real issue of that paragraph is that the media grab “hot” subjects for the sake of entertainment — believing their readers and viewers prefer to be entertained than informed. Is that true? Do the media have us pegged?

In our (readers’ and viewers’) defense, I do believe that incidents such as the brouhaha over Barack Obama’s remarks about small-town Pennsylvanians are important in that they reveal the real attitudes and character of the candidate. I.e., Obama’s attitude about small-town residents was revealed. So how did he react? It was that phase that tested his character. And it was a test he failed, in my opinion.

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Lastly, although there’s much more to the interview, I’d like to conclude with this section about the ideas that John and Elizabeth Edwards came up with during their campaign, and which they would like to see realized — so much so that they are willing to contribute to that realization:

One of the things that John and I tried…OneCorps. As you’re working, you’re out there, meeting with the other volunteers. We need to think about this post-Election period and where will people turn their energies. Our hope was that people would turn their energies to their communities. We hoped people would turn towards a potential candidate, great potential candidate… say “how can we help them” In particular try thinking about it outside the progressive community- thinking, ‘I’m gonna do an anti-poverty project and I’m gonna go to that Baptist Church and see if they want to do it with us and build the bonds there’…and maybe doing something else that would appeal to another group. People get used to working with one another to make the communities better and stronger.

We try to do it through OneCorps, it helps, people feel like they’re part of a bigger network if we have something [formal]. Whoever is the candidate, win or lose, one of the things they should do is build that operation into something that’s more civic-minded. The problem is that the way you do that is you use your email list, and the email list is a commodity that civic organizations are unable to afford. One of the things I want us to be able to do is to donate the list to OneCorps

Politicians have a political agenda, so it’s important to incorporate those who aren’t running again. But “if people understood their own power and their own ability to change their communities…. It’s especially important if McCain wins the election because he’s against government activity that supports the work of organizations like OneCorps. …

It is a fine idea. One that could foster not only community involvement and spirit but also a sense of purpose that brings the nation together.

And I’m appalled to learn that John McCain opposes the creation of a networking community group.

Read all of the interview.

  • Bud White

    God bless Elizabeth Edwards

  • Salo

    But the real issue of that paragraph is that the media grab “hot” subjects for the sake of entertainment — believing their readers and viewers prefer to be entertained than informed. Is that true? Do the media have us pegged?

    they don’t have us pegged–we are staked out and the vultures are eating our innards.

  • http://insightanalytical.wordpress.com/ Gloria

    Elizabeth Edwards is a treasure!

    Meanwhile, our treasure…Jimmy Carter…seems to be letting Democratic voters DOWN!

    Why isn’t he speaking out for FL and MI voters while he can find the time to spend days in Nepal monitoring their vote??

    Is Jimmy Carter Letting Democratic Voters Down??
    http://insightanalytical.wordpress.com/2008/04/15/is-jimmy-carter-letting-democratic-voters-down/

  • TeakWoodKite

    Elizabeth Edwards has a great deal of integrity, intelligence and guts.

    Elizabeth Edwards’ honesty is rare these days, in the public square.

  • blobert

    OT:
    CNN is hijacking our primary.
    They are about to come out with a soft-focus TV movie about Obama’s youth.
    To do this right in the middle of close elections is beyond outrageous.
    GE AND AOL TIME WARNER ARE TAKING OVER OUR COUNTRY.
    It is time to come down bigtime on companies who are manipulating our news stations for their own ends.

    We are unplugging our cable again and dropping AOL Time Warner internet services for Verizen.
    Before we drop cable, I want to write down as many sponsors as I can, and let them know we will not be using their services as long as they advertise on news stations that are meddling in our elections.

  • http://noquarterusa.net/ SusanUnPC

    Omg. My take: That’s because GE et al. want the corporate tax breaks they expect from a McCain presidency, so they want the candidate who is the easiest to defeat. It’s going to be a McGovern repeat if Obama’s the nominee.

  • TeakWoodKite

    So much for equal time.

    Thank you Ronny. Why does Obama’s campaign manager have a “secretive” media company? It would interesting to know what up with that.

    CNN carries McCain’s whole shtick this morning, then they come with a Hallmark card romance “novel” titled “BO, the early ears”. The trailer

    So Lou Dobbs callin’ it what it is, on CNN, is ironic. Steven Colbert was very much ‘on the mark’ with his candor. Larry King really needs to know what a bong is. Maybe Jon Stewart can hook him up.

    Communications between partisans during times of oppression take on odd forms. The common communication systems in this country are public property. You would never know it.

    Remember Radio Flyers? Feel like your getting hauled around in one and treated like a kid?

  • sandyR

    The only comfort I take (not being into guns or religion) is that the ratings for whoever the pretty boy is who does “360″ tanked when he trailed after Obama in some silly special. I’m just betting that Obama the boy (oh shit, strike that boy… oh no..oh no.. I didn’t say boy did I…..I meant Obama as a young child…Obama as a youth…Obama as a preteen…)– anyway, I digress– I’m just guessing that the CNN made for TV movie of Obama the boy will have about as big of ratings as the people lining up to watch my left shoe as it sits on the living room floor.
    As for the media.. the tabloid tv journalism is beyond the grasp of the rational mind. If there is any consolation to be found there I have noticed from following a “news” story of an ilk besides that of politics, that the job the mediahos do is so despicable, so callous, so sensational, so without soul, so without actual news value that I wonder if most people who watch it haven’t melted the part of their brain that can figure out how to vote anyway.
    And that we who are trying to find actual news on the political race and are forced into watching the crap to get any news at all– we know better than to be taken in by their horse-shittery and cheap tricks.
    So I’m not sure how powerful they are. But what the hell do I know… they packaged Shrub up as the Marlboro Man and people voted him into the White House.

  • MC

    Elizabeth Edwards is a class act. I feel she would have made an excellent “First Lady”, and may still someday if we do not lose the Deocratic party to the pernicious, hell-bent “far-left wing”.

    I am a Hillary supporter. However, I would have had no problem whatsoever with HRC serving with John Edwards as vice-pres.

    We would have been winners regardless! Now we only win if HRC somehow “guts it out” and “pulls it out”.

    Obama would be 2000 and 2004 redux. His campaign amounts to the remnants of three losing campaigns (Gore’s, Dean’s and Kerry’s) trying to squelch the only winning campaigners we have had in 32 years, the Clintons

  • Douglas

    OT(not sure)

    Two great articles on the Republican myth and hypocrisy of the “Democratic elite”. Food for thought.

    From the Nation – http://www.thenation.com/doc/20080414/alterman

    And American Prospect – http://www.prospect.org/cs/articles?article=how_blue_is_your_collar

  • apishapa

    This has been aan absolutely horrible day in this little part of the world. FIrst when I was driving to work, there was a terrible accident with a rolled over semi. When I got there there were two State Patrol cars there, and no one else yet. They weren’t trying to get the driver out, because there was no chance he was alive. THis is a two lane highway with several pretty scary turns and he just blew the turn. Anyway, it scared me and depressed me, because we have been trying for over 20 years to get that stretch of highway widened, and it’s never going to happen.

    Then I left work early to attend the funeral of a young woman from my community. Her mother taught three of my children in second grade, so the entire school was out today for Bandi’s funeral. She leaves behind a two year old daughter. This is a close knit, tiny community (<500 people)and it hit this town hard when she was injured in an accident a year ago. She has been on life support for a year. Her mother finally gave up. It breaks my heart.

    Then this afternoon the town 10 miles NE of here started burning. It is hot and dry and the wind is blowing. The entire town has been evacuated and at least 20 homes and businesses so far have burned. Over 10,000 acres burned. It is not expected to get any better tonight, but I keep hearing it is going to snow tomorrow. 90 degrees today, snow tomorrow, only in Colorado.

    We need a little help here in the heartland. We need more people like the Edwards who do know what it is like to live through a day like this and are trying to find a way to help. These people who lost their homes are not the elite. They are ranchers and farmers and they have lost just about everything over the last eight years or drought.

    No wonder we are tired and turn to God. We will take care of our friends though, and Ordway will survive this day.

  • Cuppity

    Many of us wondered if Hillary would have been better off without Bill’s help…But Why?

    McDougall Breaking News

    Bill Clinton’s Madness: A Consequence of Heart-Bypass Surgery Brain Damage

    We Need to Understand and Show Some Compassion

    One of the savviest politicians of our generation, known for his wit, charm, and calm under extreme pressure, Bill Clinton appears out of character in the speeches and interviews televised since his bypass surgery September 6, 2004—and his mental deterioration may be accelerating. Remember, this is the president who withstood public impeachment before the entire world for his relationship with Monica Lewinski without once losing control. Now, he is easily angered by hecklers, and makes factual mistakes and racial slurs while aggressively defending his wife’s campaign for presidency. Everyone sees his mental and emotional decline, yet to date, no medical professionals have spoken out about the cause or offered help.
    Not a single one—not one bypass surgeon, cardiologist or psychiatrist—has stepped forward in his defense; even though all of them are trained to recognize “post bypass surgery cognitive dysfunction.”
    One of the best-kept secrets in medicine is the brain damage caused during bypass surgery. During my 40 years of medical practice I have never heard a doctor warn a patient before bypass surgery that an expected complication is memory loss. After surgery when the family complains of dad’s fits of anger, I have never heard a doctor admit that personality change is a common consequence of surgery. Yet these well-recognized side effects have been reported in medical journals since 1969.1
    Brain damage during bypass surgery is so common that hospital personnel refer to it as “pump head.” The primary cause is emboli produced during surgery from clamping the aorta and from the “heart-lung machine.” This machine pumps blood to keep the patient alive while the heart is stopped during the operation. Unfortunately, this pump also introduces toxic gases, fat globules, and bits of plastic debris into the bloodstream of the patient under anesthesia. Once they are in the bloodstream, these particles migrate to the brain where they can clog capillaries and prevent adequate amounts of blood and oxygen from flowing to the brain. Essentially, all patients experience brain emboli during surgery and for many the damage is permanent.

    In 2001, an article in the New England Journal of Medicine reported that 5-years after bypass surgery 42% of patients showed decline in mental function of approximately 20 percent or more.2 A study published this year (2008) in the Annals of Thoracic Surgery using MRI testing just after bypass surgery found brain damage in 51% of patients.3 Three years after their time on the bypass pump, significant permanent reduction in mental capacity was identified in 31% of patients. I am not talking major stroke here; but these patients can’t remember names or numbers as they once did, experience sleep disturbances (including nightmares), suffer mood swings, and lose intellectual acuity. Approximately 30 percent of people suffer persistent depression and some even contemplate suicide.

    Our former president needs our understanding and support. A simple explanation by his doctors of the cause of his recent aberrant behaviors should bring peace of mind to Hillary and her campaign staff. If Mr. Clinton better understood his current limitations, he and his staff could take precautionary steps to avoid embarrassments. A long-overdue explanation would help his adoring public more easily accept his mistakes and readily forgive him. It is not your fault, Mr. Clinton.

    As importantly, public recognition of the harm done to Bill Clinton by the heart surgery business would help the patients who undergo bypass surgery, and their families, to better understand similar changes they have experienced. A little attention from the media could also shine some light on the lack of survival benefits from this $90,000 procedure performed nearly half-a-million times annually in the US, and the superior benefits coming from diet and lifestyle changes.

    I am saddened to see our former president suffer from public humiliation, but I am disgraced that my profession has thus far failed to come forward with a long over-due explanation and an apology to the Clintons and our nation for the harm they have done and the secrets they have kept.

    John McDougall, MD
    http://www.drmcdougall.com/

    1) Hill JD, Aguilar MJ, Baranco A, de Lanerolle P, Gerbode F. Neuropathological manifestations of cardiac surgery. Ann Thorac Surg. 1969 May;7(5):409-19.

    2) Newman MF, Kirchner JL, Phillips-Bute B, Gaver V, Grocott H, Jones RH, Mark DB, Reves JG, Blumenthal JA; Longitudinal assessment of neurocognitive function after coronary-artery bypass surgery. N Engl J Med. 2001 Feb 8;344(6):395-402. 9Link: http://content.nejm.org/cgi/reprint/344/6/395.pdf)

    3) Knipp SC, Matatko N, Wilhelm H, Schlamann M, Thielmann M, Lösch C, Diener HC, Jakob H. Cognitive outcomes three years after coronary artery bypass surgery: relation to diffusion-weighted magnetic resonance imaging. Ann Thorac Surg. 2008 Mar;85(3):872-9.

    McDougall Wellness Center P.O. Box 14039, Santa Rosa, CA 95402
    http://www.drmcdougall.com

  • Catriley

    Thank you for sharing that. I love Elizabeth Edwards. After seeing her speak, and reading her writings, I often felt she would have been an excellent President as well.

    I was a BIG TIME John Edwards supporter in 2004, and again this time around. I went back and forth between John and Hillary, and by the time I felt I had to make a solid declaration, John left the race. I truly believed that John and Hillary are the ones who should have been the last two in the race. I bemoan the American Idoling of the presidential race. Candidates of substance are often forced out because of the media and viewer obsession with celebrity. We have been fortunate that Hillary, who gets media attention for many reasons, is also a solid choice for president.

    I do fear that the energy being generated in the race right now, and the new voters getting involved and speaking about change, will dissipate when it’s all over. Either way. Ironically, I see Edwards and Clinton supporters as being the ones most likely to turn that energy into community action, than Obama’s supporters. They are in love with the idea of change — but more in love with the idea of electing Obama the celeb. I love the idea of the OneCorp, and hope that people will funnel their energies there.

  • Catriley

    OMG– I thought this was a joke. They are NOT doing that, are they??? The media is milking this made-for-TV candidate, American Idol, thing for all its worth.

    I fucking hate CNN. and you can quote me on that.

  • blobert

    Note to myself: CHILL.
    CNN says they are going to do one on each candidate, and Obama is the first.

  • blobert

    False alarm because they weren’t clear on this.
    It turns out Anderson Cooper 360 is having a close look at each of the 3 candidates.
    Obama went tonight.
    Sorry about that!

  • otherlisa

    Though it would be great if she and John were to endorse HRC, I think Elizabeth’s comments about health care are a defacto endorsement.

  • BO needs a history lesson badly

    I don’t know of anyone who doesn’t admire Elizabeth Edwards. She has a great deal of insight. I agree with her comment about the “elitist” speech being a test for Obama and he failed it.

    But, I think his elitist vocabulary slipped by many people, including the media.

    The insult is not in being called bitter. The insult is in being described as prejudicial or racist.

    “or antipathy to people who aren’t like them or anti-immigrant sentiment”

    Obama has poor judgement in the company he keeps, the money he accepts, and in surmising the thoughts of others.

  • lifelong dem leaving party

    very sad indeed and important information.

    unfortunately, public discussion of this issue would likely turn into msm attacks saying we can’t have a president who will be influenced by her husband who has brain damage….sad, but true, that we could expect this kind of crap from the russerts and matthews and borgers of the world.

  • beebop

    Funny you say that.

    I emailed the Carter Foundation and got a very smug response after it went to about three people. My take was there is no peace prize for doing the right thing in America. But I guess I’m just bitter about voting rights in America.

  • beebop

    I am sorry to hear about your day. If you can stand in the sun and feel a breeze today, please do it and feel some peace.

  • troy m

    Would it not be the greates thing if Hillary picked John as her VP. Then, Bill and Elizabeth could join forces and work towards the social programs both are so passionate about?

    Maybe this could be an offer Hillary could use to convience John to accept the VP slot.

  • troy m

    Would it not be the greatest thing if Hillary picked John as her VP. Then, Bill and Elizabeth could join forces and work towards the social programs both are so passionate about?

    Maybe this could be an offer Hillary could use to convince John to accept the VP slot.

  • glennmcgahee

    I see a link to USA today’s article that finally addresses the donations that Obama claims he does not receive from Special Interests like Gas Companies, etc.http://tinyurl.com/5mkedm

  • kenoshaMarge

    Never hit bottom do ya? Now Bill Clinton is enraged by the unfairness of media directed at his wife because he is deranged? Not because any MAN worth his salt would feel the same. This is a new low even for bottom feeding trolls.

  • workingclass artist

    Jimmy Carter is senile…..I’m not judgin’…..I’m just sayin’.

  • workingclass artist

    OK …….Bill Clinton is mad as hell and he has a right to be….Wake up. I think he’s doing fine. Most of the PUNIDIOTS are the ones who keep saying he’s hurting her campaign….He’s not….He’s firing up her base.

  • simon, too

    I worry more about the brain damaged who keep using the same troll methods, the same swift boating, with no greater understanding of the dynamics, despite their CONSTANT losses.

    Now that’s brain damage.

    Memory problems, or are you just stupid, like the republicans?

  • apishapa

    Two volunteer firemen died. I don’t know where they were from. These are small towns and a fire like this, we have to get help from all around. A private animal shelter burned, killing about 20 animals. That is the worst of it. Everything else can be replaced.

    I think part of Fort Carson is on fire also. I sure hope it really does rain today. All I see is smoke, but the wind has died down.

  • apishapa

    Speaking for all Bill CLinton fans who believe he has every reason to be pissed off at the treatment of himself and his wife. KISS MY ASS!

    Bill Clinton is fine. Maybe you need to worry about what makes Obama and his deranged fans stoop this low.

  • apishapa

    Well, we’ll see how “soft” they go on Hillary in comparison to the boys.

  • http://OUTRAGEDBUTNOTSURPRISED bama_barrron

    let me add this … yea i get tired of being called a racist cause i cant stand by and say nothing about the empty suit BO … but just as importantly, in my mind, when he made those statements he didnt make them to the pople he was talking about …

    how low class can a person be … if you have a problem with someone or a group … talk to them face to face … any other method is cowardly. this is a lesson BO seems to have never learned.

  • DJ

    Who is living in La-La land? You think that a serious medical opinion is just Obama’s deranged fans talking? Or do you approve some of the idiotic things Bill has said, such as : I can’t MAKE her taller, younger, or make her a man…– Make her? Did he make her?
    As a feminist, I deeply abhorred those remarks…

    Or just now, blaming the Tuzla ‘mis-speak’ on Hillary’s advanced age? (at 60?)

    Is he going to say next that with all that drinking, Hillary was just impaired?

    And you think this is helping???

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