The Shot Heard `Round the World

Yes, and his supporters also put their feet in his mouth. You know, ever since I launched the YouTube channel to help out the different bloggers who use the clips, i’ve been very fortunate to get all sorts of comments that show me exactly what this, “End of Politics of Destruction” aka ‘Obama’s better way’ will look like.

Today I got the following comments related to the post about Union workers protesting him:

“are you just going to go off on what Clinton is saying that it was at some closed off event. “

I pointed out to this immature chap that this was very assumptive about how people make their conclusions.

You do realize that people make conclusions without needing Clinton to say something first? I’m seeing supporters from all camps accuse others of taking their thoughts from their candidates and this just isn’t so. It may be true that some folks follow their candidate’s views word for word, but frankly as an independent, I resent the notion that I was offended because Clinton said anything. I get offended, bothered, irritated long before any of these three candidates speak.

So please, before you write stuff like this again, think about whether you would like to be told that your thoughts start in Obama’s head, or whoever you support, before you have them yourself. This is completely condescending and you just lent agreement to those who accuse Obama of being condescending and to his followers or supporters as being condescending.

If you truly are 23, i’m about twice your age and I really do think for myself whether you can see that or not. thank you.

how does this little obamabot respond? More of the same:

First of all, I was responding to the accusation that Obama is some snobby elitist. The comments may sound elitist but Obama is no elitist. And the only person calling Obama an elitist is Hillary Clinton. John Mccain himself has said, “no Obama is not an elitist, I know him, but his comments did sound elitist and I dont know where those views came from”. Clinton is pushing this elitist label like it’some unequivocal truth, sorry but I wouldnt trust her with anything she says. The fact is that Obama’s history is a far cry from an elite, and given the fact that some of her own surrogates have said he is not (look it up youtube). So you can take his actual comments however way you want. But this label that he was saying the things he said because he was in some closed off liberal elite gathering is complete bunk because he has said similar statements in other venues, that people vote on wedge issues like gun-rights, religion..etc, because they know that no matter how many promises a guy makes economically, they always renig and leave small town americans high and dry.That is the spot these “Reagan Democrats” are put every election. You have a democrat they support economically but the republican they support socially (ie. religion, gun-rights, anti-immigration) and why dont they ever vote economically?…because the democrat or the republican for that matter never come through for them. He has said this on numerous occasions, on tv and on the stump before, I will agree he sorta mangled it in these statements but I knew what he was saying. You can disagree all you want, but dont take your talking points from Hillary, especially when the republican nominee has diagreed, her own supporters have disagreed, and Obama’s history shows otherwise.

To which I responded:

This is my whole point. How dare you assume that people take their thoughts from talking points. DO you take your points from talking points? I can see right through your assumptions because I’m not a Democrat, nor am I a Republican.

You are projecting and you missed the whole point of my message to you. You have no idea how I take his comments, and I haven’t told you how I take them. I have told you that I found him condescending, but I didn’t say it was because of these comments, or these comments alone. I find most politicians condescending by their very nature.

I run this channel so that a series of blogs can use the clips for commentaries. And time and again people assume they know my personal politic by what I put up here. Most of them haven’t considered that I’m doing this as a planning for a good defense on behalf of the candidates featured. Oh no, that wouldn’t be so obvious now would it.

But I know what I think, where it comes from and when you project all your assumptions in your message, and now you’d done it again, I can see where you are off. If I were to project on you that you were a gradeschool drop out who couldn’t get ahead, exactly how long would it take you to figure out that this isn’t correct? Shouldn’t take but a second if you know you didn’t drop out of school. But you so quickly bark out lines like “don’t take your talking points from Hillary”. Think this over carefully before responding.

“the only person calling Obama an elitist is Hillary Clinton. John Mccain ”

Not true at all. I deal with many people who are not for any of these folks and they just called him “elitist” too. They are independents who are way outside the Republican/Democrat duopoly. So you are still missing the point and need to BROADEN YOUR VIEW.

You really need to examine your comments again before responding. You’re barking up the wrong tree. And I can see right through your assumptions because I know where I stand, what my thoughts are, that I haven’t ever lived by “talking points” and to say that to me or others is arrogant. You are saying that YOU DON’T TAKE YOUR COMMENTS FROM TALKING POINTS, but that OTHERS DO. Give me a break friend, reassess and write back.

I’m not going to sell you out to such an ignorant view. I could just ignore you, but I don’t think you have thought this out very well. And you’re talking to someone who has been voting for over two decades as an independent.

Feedback if you wish, but stop the damn projection. You can do better than that.

But wait, the glowing example of Obama’s youth vote got better:

ok first of all you need to calm down…this is youtube for crying out loud..this isnt exactly the place for political fodder…second, I was actually on a political chat room and someone sent this link (a clinton supporter) and I assumed automatically you would be the same or at least a mccain supporter. And looking through your video selection doesnt exactly deter from that observation. Every other video I see has Karl Rove on as the picture for crying out loud. And did I say this is youtube?…where character limits pretty much make discussion useless to the point where any comment is useless and generalizations are easily made due to other posts by other members. Give me some credit here, I could have made the usual youtube BS comment that will either be marked as spam or deleted all together. And I am sorry for offending you, but I dont think you should be offended by commments made by someone(me) who has no idea who you are, no idea what you stand for, half the time is on youtube for no practical purpose at all, and just making in the moment haste comments that are often regretted 2 minutes later or completely forgotten at all. The fact that you actually messaged me is the only reason I even remember this whole episode…I dont even remember what the video was even about! So I am sorry if I “projected” anything towards you, am just shocked you actually care…believe me, I’ve been called worse on this site and just laughed it off…

Oh, so now I should calm down and just ignore what people say on YouTube, ok…coming from such an experienced political pundit as this guy it must be so!

“ok first of all you need to calm down”
wow, you just can’t help but project can you. Want to tell me what else I need to do? What are we up to now?
1. don’t buy into what Clinton says about a closed event
2. don’t buy into talking points
3. calm down

you must be some sort of amazing genius to be in a position to tell others what to do. This is why I said you were, and your candidate is, condescending. You don’t have questions, you’re all answers.

Give you some credit? for what because you didn’t act like the worst of assholes? What sort of plea is that? If you want credit act with some integrity and quit projecting. You’re still doing it in every word and then making excuses.

And you’d have to do a lot more to offend me, don’t be so damn dramatic. I’m pointing out that you have political blinders on. If you’re too puffy in your ego to see that you don’t see so well, then so be it, wander off into the blind.

It explains your voting preference and your yapping off at others.

Don’t be shocked that I would care to write you. I don’t usually take the time to do so. Be thankful that someone took the time to call you out on projecting your biases and prejudice on others. You walk up and tell people what they think, what they buy into, what they should do, and what do you expect?

I’m not at all surprised that you’ve bought into Obama. I promise you, one day you’ll understand why its called, Youthful Idealism. Enjoy your daydreaming.

And never tell people, “you need to calm down.” That is the social equivalent of throwing kerosine on fire. And you didn’t have the respect to ask, “are you calm?” In fact, you don’t show much respect at all.

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so there we have it folks, the condescending little pricks of Obama’s camp can dish it out, but can’t take it. They can tell you that YOU are buying into talking points, they can tell YOU that YOU don’t get it, but when you show them that they are full of shit…they want credit for not going completely stupid or want you to calm down because they know what’s best for you.

In all, i’m not surprised Obama has attracted these neophytes. It won’t stop any time soon either. They just keep on knowing much better than YOU or I what is best for us. Aren’t you so glad you have them available to keep you from harming yourself?

Ah.. you might want to point your mom to that article up there about the bartender who took it upon himself to ask if she wanted a shot. It was unrehearsed, unstaged. You might want to mention to Mom that if you don’t drink beer normally, you cannot drink a few mugs of it, even for a campaign stop. Hillary is a midwest girl by way of Arkansas. Definitely the real thing.

>>> Hillary knows what the woodshed looks like.
Obama confuses it with the outhouse

OUT-standing!

why do i have a sneaky feeling she was a plant?

Yes I saw that. If that wasn’t a plant, I’m Britney. Of course, Obama went into Ohhhh Nooooooooo that’s not racissssssst! That’s politics!!! What a slug. Axelrod must have figured out everybody is sick and tired of his race-baiting ass. Barack Obama is a Master Baiter. Pun intended.

I think Obama’s response to her having a “shot and a beer”, like his calling her “Annie Oakley” shows that he simply doesn’t get it.

Yeah, I think you’re right, and it again points to Obama’s lack of familiarity with the middle and working classes.

It IS his Dukakis moment, isn’t it?

I was brought up in Chicago, blue collar, union, middle class, and ALL the men would have a shot and a beer, after work.

Some before work, even.

Clinton was brought up in Park Ridge, same thing, really, so it wouldn’t be out of character for her.

Stupid Barry pr teams, research.

Cultural awareness is your friend.

Can you google that?

Which makes me want to pat myself on the back because I thought Obama was a slick talking phony from day one. It’s always nice to be right.

Quote of the day!

Folks have that “gut feeling” that something isn’t right about Obama. Can’t define it, but you just know he’s not what he’s portraying.

Better to have a candidate with a past that has been hammered through for a decade — and vetted — than a candidate with a history, that is as absent as the young senator’s vote on the senate floor!

Empty suit doesn’t even describe the guy, he’s more like shed snake skin.

No heritage. No history. No body.

“Hillary Clinton. She drinks like you do.”

No that would be Cheney, and McPeak.

Clinton doesn’t have a drinking problem.

See the difference?

LOL.

Very interesting link, and shows the extent to which big business runs our government.

But big business is comprised of some very untalented, mediocre thinkers, resulting in this mess we have today, from PR firms shilling for the President, to three wars that have been lost.

Remember all those business and communications, IT majors from college, the ones everyone disdained?

They reached their level of incompetence.

Unfortunately, it’s in Washington, DC.

and isn’t interesting that Mr. Afro-centric decided to build an English Tudor style-McMansion.

The “man” isn’t keeping Rev. Wright down. He is the “man”!! The sooner that people in this country, of all races and ethnicities learn that the great equalizer is money, the better off all of us without huge sums of money will be.

People in this country fall into (2) categories, those with money and those without. It is usually those with money who take it upon themselves to try and divide the rest of us, knowing that it is better for their own long-term goals! When will people stop buying into this snake-oil crap!

and the church owns it and the lot and has a 10 million dollar line of credit on the house also
10 k on a 1m house on a 340k lot?? what gives and whats the money for??

who was it that used their purple sack for their gun again?