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Ten Years After The Massacre.  eric-dylan.jpg

Prepping for the show Sunday 19, when I speak with Dave Cullen, author of the mesmerizing and appalling “Columbine,” a comprehensive review of the mass murder of children by two sick people ten years ago, April 20, 1999, I was stumped and then gripped by the brief chapter on “Psychopath.”   I read this paragraph with a  fresh chill.

“Researchers are just beginning to understand psychopaths, but they believe psychopaths crave the emotional responses they lack.  They are nearly always thrill seekers.  They love roller coasters and hang gliding, and they seek out high-anxiety  occupations, like ER tech, bond trader, or Marine.  Crime, danger, impoverishment, death — any sort of risk will help.  The chase new sources of excitement because it is so difficult for them to sustain.”  Did you notice?  ”Bond trader.”

And then I put this up against what I read daily about the grotesque risk the big banks and attendant shadow banks sought out and took during the well-known housing bubble of 2002-2008.  AIG’s counterparty bets with CDS is astonishing until you consider there may have been a psychopathology to the behavior.  The risk was the desire, not the money.  All the major banks took part in similar fashion.  Where was the adult supervision?   Anger management?  Were the traders psychopaths?  No.  But perhaps a few, more than a few, and perhaps that behavior was acceptable to the sane.  Or perhaps the psychopaths were very good at disguising their rage and compulsive, reptile-brain risk-taking.  

Another stunning paragraph from the “Psychopath” chapter:  “Psychopaths are distinguished  by two characteristics.  The first is a ruthless disregard for others: they will defraud, maim, or kill for the most trivial personal gain.  The second is an astonishing gift for disguising the first.  It’s the deception that makes them so dangerous.  You never see him coming.  (It’s usually a him– more than 80 percent are male.)  Don’t look for the oddball creeping you out.  Psychopaths don’t act like Hannibal Lecter or Norman Bates.  They come off like Hugh Grant, in his most adorable role.”  Does this sound too much like Jamie Dimon, Tim Geithner, Vikram Pandit, even Lloyd Blankfein?  Is the big banking culture a nest of Eric Harris and Dylan Klebold types?  Impossible!   Are they thrill seekers?    Why are their banks either insolvent or fashioned with an architecture of opacity?  Will JP Morgan Chase, Citigroup and Goldman Sachs pass the stress tests due Monday May 4?   You ask? 


If the Psychopaths Didn’t Do It.  

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There is the possibility that the reason the banks are insolvent, the dollar is deteriorating to dust, and the great nations of the Earth face a decade of helplessness or famine is that we are burdened by bad leadership which we accept as inevitable.  Joseph Stiglitz, speaking to Bloomberg, doesn’t look for psychopaths.  

As encapsulated by a savvy poster at Calculated Risk, Stiglitz just sees more Federal foolishness:


Joseph Stiglitz on Bloomberg

Stiglitz Says White House Ties to Wall Street Doom Bank Rescue

A sample of quotes

“All the ingredients they have so far are weak, and there are several missing ingredients,” Stiglitz said in an interview. The people who designed the plans are “either in the pocket of the banks or they’re incompetent.”

“We don’t have enough money, they don’t want to go back to Congress, and they don’t want to do it in an open way and they don’t want to get control” of the banks, a set of constraints that will guarantee failure, Stiglitz said.

Relying on low interest rates to help put a floor under housing prices is a variation on the policies that created the housing bubble in the first place, Stiglitz said.

“This is a strategy trying to recreate that bubble,” he said. “That’s not likely to provide a long run solution. It’s a solution that says let’s kick the can down the road a little bit.”

While the strategy might put a floor under housing prices, it won’t do anything to speed the recovery, he said. “It’s a recipe for Japanese-style malaise.”



Japanese is the thing this year.  There is Always Weary Cynicism to Soften the Rest of the Century.  

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More from Calculated Risk comments: 

So I thought I would take a drive down memory lane here and see what is new.

The crisis grinds on, in a most boring fashion, now beginning to smell just like the S&L crisis except that houses are also massively involved.

Did everybody like my bottom calls? Kinda looks like the double bottom might hold now throughout the summer.

In other words, the worst of this crisis is past- the next is several years away, meanwhile all of the wreckage of the last one heaves into view and the punditocracy grinds away at the reality of it.

The best was watching all of the deluded folks from my office yesterday as they paraded with their teabags.

Pining for stuff that was gone before they were born.

How’s everyone enjoying that Velvet Fist of Government?

The system was saved, sort of, kind of, but not to be anywhere near as good as it once was.

I told you Wall Street wouldn’t like what my colleagues in DC had in store for them- now they are positively miserable.

I do note that our Chinese friends are beginning their long run away from the dollar- a true so long and thanks for all the fish moment is still a long ways away.

So, enjoy the boredom, punctuated by moments of volatility that will faintly recall that magnificent fall- but those days have truly past. Now we sit and wait.

Someday this war’s gonna end…


Harris and Klebold the Bond Traders.

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Consider that they would now be 28 years old and working as bond traders.  Probably responsible for buying $500 billion worth of MBS before their trading desk was closed down by the FDIC.  Now they are applying for jobs in the Black Box unit at GS.  And just in case, they have also sent their resumes to the FDIC to help administer PPIP.  All is not lost.  There is hope.  For mysterious reasons, the condition of middle age calms  down psychopaths.  This may explain men who look like Hank Paulson
  • decentAmerican

    Dear Larry Johnson — off topic, but question for you…..you have asked to give credit to the Usurper for the piracy incident, however, there is debate otherwise on both Atlas Shrugs, and now world net daily, that the Usurper actually DELAYED rescue due to haggling with the limited rules of engagement.

    You are the security expert, what is your opinion on this? Heresay, or contemptuous? You have always been honest, so please comment. Thank you.

    http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=95451

  • Diana L. C.

    The Denver Post spent lots of ink on rehashing the horror of Columbine today. Living here in Colorado, I’ve read through these things so much, I couldn’t make myself spend much time on it.

    I remember that as a young teacher in training we had to read a small book in one of our education courses, the title of which I do not recall. (This was very late 60′s.) Most of our ed courses, which I almost always felt were a mostly useless, were nothing but pep talks about what a wonderful “calling” we had and how we could change the world by teaching the next astronauts, Congressmen, doctors, nurses, etc. But this book was the first honest book we were given. Sure, we’d have all those naive overachievers in our classes, those want-to-do-good kids (and they WERE wonderful to have); but, as the book pointed out, we would also have the future rapists, gangsters, robbers, murderers, etc., in our classes, and we needed to be prepared for that. It was a book that didn’t really hold to the accepted notion at the time that ALL was nurture and nurture was the answer to all our problems.

    Modern neurobiology, neuropsychology, neurolinguistics, etc., is pointing out very clearly that much is Nature, too. Sociopaths and Psychopaths are basically born. They are everywhere. Some tear through other people’s lives and become hated by many yet do little violent damage. Others are definite dangers to society. Read The Sociopath Next Door. It’s an eye opener.

    Narcissits are, on the other hand, usually “made” by narcissistic parenting, as far as I know. They are also, however, extremely damaging to the people whose lives they share. And they can also be extremely dangerous.

    I am convinced that there are many, many people among these two groups working in banking, Wall Street, and government. I believe our society actually tends to award their behaviors.

    The other book you all need to read is Evil Genes. It studies the link between narcissism and some of the major evil leaders of history.

  • Eastan

    Interesting. I was just reading the RapeLay post on here and wonder.. Is this risk taking and ruthless disregard for others built into people, like a gene, or is it learned at an early age? Maybe the gamers that like the rape game will grow up to be back room traders on Wall Street.

  • oowawa

    Interesting comment, Diana. I am also reminded of another novel/movie that explores the same subject matter in a comedic-horrific satire: American Psycho: a psychopath on Wall Street who worries about the prestige of his business cards in-between killings.

  • yttik

    Did you notice? ”Bond trader.”

    Yikes!

  • starviego

    You are still being lied to. Big time. If you want to find out what really happened at Columbine I suggest you read what the eyewitnesses had to say:

    http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/columbineeight.php

  • Portia Elizabeth

    It’s interesting that Eastan brought up the gamers. One thought I had while reading was the prevalence of games that Gen Xers grew up with that encourage extraordinary risk-taking. D&D and its ilk have been around for almost 40 years, tutoring kids in how exciting it is to risk all for the next skill level. It’s just a game, though. Right?

    About 15 years ago I worked in a lab doing studies on compounds used to treat various neurological problems, such as depression. We used a lab-developed type of cell to test the efficacy of drugs like cocaine, serotonin, norepinephrine. It was impressive to see how these cells (which had been selected for their ability to process such drugs) could take up the compounds or not. From those studies I became convinced that some “psychological problems” are actually the result of biochemistry. In other words, it’s not in our heads; it’s in our cells.

    Probably the best-known example is depression which used to be considered a mental problem and was treated with psychotherapy. People struggled for years before Prozac “miraculously” cleared up their symptoms. Only it wasn’t a miracle. It was that their brains couldn’t process serotonin efficiently without some outside help.

    Now I’m not saying all who are depressed are the victims of their genes, but alot of folks are. And an interesting aside is that some compulsions, like over-eating, gambling and out-of-control shopping are “cured” by the same antidepressants. So-called mental glitches can sometimes be reduced to a matter of personal biochemistry.

    In like manner, I do believe it’s possible to be born with the characteristics of good or bad. That said, I also think it’s possible to prevent genetic makeup from dictating our outcomes. (I’m not suggesting every baby be tested and put on the appropriately corrective drug at birth.)

    I guess I’m trying to agree with both nurture and nature, but falling on the side of nature for the most part.
    (Sorry for the lecture.)

  • Diana L. C.

    Portia Elizabeth,

    I fall very heavily on the nature side myself on this issue. But I agree that the more we learn about this, the more we can TREAT the bad nature that is dealt to some people. Then we enter lots of moral dilemmas, too. How much to meddle, when to meddle, etc.?

    As someone who has suffered from a clinical depression, however, I do want to point out that depression can really NOT be inherited, but it does often occur when one’s mental chemistry is changed by situations. My depression was very definitely caused by my nature–my willingness to be too, too forgiving and caring (it’s called my altruistic tendencies). But the depression was also caused by the fact that because of that tendency on my part, I became the victim of a controlling narcissist and spent years after years of enduring emotional abuse before I could find a way out. The treatment for the SITUATIONAL depression that I finally was able to receive gave me back my life, my earlier more cheerful and clear thinking mind that found a way out. One thing it also did was permanently change me into someone who doesn’t trust others as much as I used to. I was on medication and treatment only six months.

  • elise

    I saw “Wall Street” and intensely disliked it and I wasn’t sure why. I think I’ve discovered the reason in the last few months. Like movies about violent psychopaths, the brokers were completely without conscience and morality. Greed is a good thing, the Michale Douglas character said. Two or three weeks ago, Larry Summers said the same thing. I didn’t understand either time. Isn’t this the justification for any action which enriches one or a group at the expense of everyone else? Wall Street brokers and their enablers in the government may not take lives with the finality of Kliebol and Harris, but they destroy lives.

  • Barry 0351

    A Psychopath would join the Marine’s……..somehow This reassures me should I ever meet up with any jihadi’s LOL Semper Fi!

  • Amalia

    this might be credible if it did not include the end comment that Columbine was staged to take away gun rights. that thought is
    completely nuts.

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