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ABC Debate Live Blog

By Fleaflicker on April 16, 2008 at 6:37 PM in ABC News, Barack Obama, Current Affairs, Hillary Clinton

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Come join in the fun tonight. I will be attempting to keep up with the debate and offering my commentary. Please feel free to add your own.

For those not able to watch the debate on television you may watch it live right here:

6abc Debate

  • JoeySky

    Go Rocky Hill.! Sock him.

    • Therese

      I am so deeply disappointed in the questions being asked tonight. This is just a blatant rehashing of old inflammatory news in order to get ratings. What a crock of shit.

      • Mrjonessr

        Glad they got off of those same ole comments, Obama is trying to take the high road ,but the Media today has no integrity.

      • sayitnow

        why is obama there just play a recirding same old blah blah

  • ChrisXP

    Well, I can’t join, because this is an event for my sis, mom and myself to sit and watch (family time).

    But will be back when it’s over!

  • http://texasdarlin.wordpress.com TexasDarlin

    Standing by in Florida…

  • beebop

    Thank you for doing this. I can barely manage to watch without risking my blood pressure! ;)

    • Amanda

      I don’t think my blood pressure will be able to handle it either :) .
      Thank God for blogging.

    • Fleaflicker

      Well… my blood pressure shouldn’t be too much of an issue.

      • beebop

        It is a wonderful thing you do!

  • http://Supergram.blogspot.com Melissa

    I will be back! Go Hillary! And thanks Flea- a lot of people have been wanting this- they don;t want to wait for 8 pm west coast time!

    • Fleaflicker

      We will be here waiting for you Melissa.

  • Bud White

    Let’s say a prayer or send out Buddhist metta to our girl; whatever works for you.

    Let’s say “NO” to blogger boy sexism, the big media gang rape, Obama’s racial politics, and selective disenfranchisement of voters.

    • Fleaflicker

      Right on. Here we go!

  • Amanda

    Damn, I was hopping for the first time Wheel of Fortune would keep on rolling and rolling and rolling :D .

  • Talktruth

    How’s it going? Looks like they’re about to start…

    • Amanda

      They have rules on this one. Time, and not applauding from the audience. Obama, first lol.

  • Talktruth

    Yep, they padded the audience with BO supporters.

  • Talktruth

    BOO! BOO!

    • i will add

      Obama needs another script. seems like I have seen this again and again.

  • Fleaflicker

    Gibson…blah blah blah

    Hillary in Green announced first. Looks good.

    Obama blue tie. Ugly bastard

    Obama speaks first. It’s been a long strange trip we’re on. Lots of frustration. No gas money to find a job. No bitterness yet. Blah blah blah

    • http://hyper-educated-uppity-woman.blogspot.com Uppity

      Somebody needs to rip that friggin’ black suit off of him. Does not this man ever wear anything but black? This is not a comforting thought.

    • Linda

      I agree with you totally. Hillary looks rested and beautiful. Obama is an ugly, disgusting bastard.

  • Bud White

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nlm-rZ2zeEY

    Watch this during commercial….

    • Linda

      This is a charming video. Hillary was a beautiful little girl and she is a gorgeous mature woman. It is also interesting that her life is an open book compared to Obama who is the Mystery Man.

  • http://Supergram.blogspot.com Melissa

    WHOA she kicked butt on the opening statement! He is still half ass explaining his bitter comments! Go Hillary!

  • Fleaflicker

    Hillary: Very polished. We the People will solve this together.

    Hillary looks VERY good tonight.

    Commercial break so soon?

    • beebop

      Did he need to pee or vomit? ;)

      • simon, too

        Hhe doesn’t even know where he is, really.

        Aye!

        Dont’ worry, Barry, there has GOT to be a morning after…

        heh.

  • norrismorris

    she did great on opening comment

  • mel

    good no candidate sitting and no ability for obama to see clinton notes~

    Obama speaking bull of believe in me, hillary, this is what I am going to do, speeches, crap obama, issues Clinton

  • Bud White

    Can we watch it with out audience tracking

  • Talktruth

    BO will lose if all the votes are counted, as he very well knows.

    NEVER TAKE BO AS YOUR RUNNING MATE, FOR OBVIOUS REASONS!!!

  • Talktruth

    Hillary: Why would I want an anti-American empty suit as my running mate?

    • http://hyper-educated-uppity-woman.blogspot.com Uppity

      LOL! Give me somebody with brains who won’t be Dan Quayling his ass all over the place.

      • Talktruth

        Can I get an “AMEN”??

      • Talktruth

        Can I get an “AMEN”?? Hallelujah!

  • http://noquarterusa.net/ SusanUnPC

    The live streaming won’t stream for me. Gimme a paddle, somebody.

    Gol’ dang it, bein’ on the West Coast isn’t always the best.

    AH! There it is … just took about 5 minutes to connect. Yikes.

    HERE:
    http://a.abclocal.go.com/wpvi/livemedia?section=news/politics&id=6083174

  • Talktruth

    What is audience tracking?

  • Fleaflicker

    Gibson: Both candidates appeal disproportionately to different types of voters. Fight it out but pledge to take the other as the running mate.

    Obama: It’s premature so far to discuss running mates. Does he have sexual problems?

    We have all of these problems, I can’t think about anything other than everyone will be supporting the Democratic ticket.

    Gibson: Shouldn’t the original Article 2 system work, where the person with the second amount of votes becomes VP?

    Hillary: She will support whoever wins. Unite the Democratic party.

  • Amanda

    Ohhh, nooo, here we go with the bitter question.

    • http://hyper-educated-uppity-woman.blogspot.com Uppity

      Yeah that was stupid. The bitter question didn’t belong in this for Chrissakes.

      Annnnnnnd as I write this, Thug just said how clinton called him condescending, which he is. So I take back the statement that Bitter didn’t belong in here. Jesus that guy is slime. SHe owes him one.

      • sayitnow

        how long was Obama in the senate??? Why is he just starting to care about America And Americans? why does none of bills that he introduced reflect his so called CHANGE ?

  • Mechan

    What a woman!
    She answered that ? about teaming up beautifully..he, being the arse, stumpled..ah – ah – ah…that guy sickens my…
    over my dead body will I team up with him if he is the nominee…

  • Eurogirl70

    yeah Obama. Hillary mentions the desire of our forefathers and then you have to work it in for yourself.

    Hillary Clinton is a classy act. Obama for damn sure is a spoiled brat and you can be sure that while he talks about unity during these debates he has done nothing but divide and rip this party apart.

    Oh yeah, I “mangled” what I wanted to say…..won’t be the last time.

    Why have you been holding on to your religion for the past 20 years if only people who are bitter hold onto their religious affiliations.

    Screw you!

  • Talktruth

    Charlie, I can’t possibly say what I really meant, which is people are worshipping God because they’re bitter, shooting guns because they’re bitter, not voting for me because they’re bitter. I’ll say the opposite, if you don’t mind. Thank you.

  • Amanda

    This man, there goes my blood pressure. Here he goes with for decades things were not changed. Was he living in Indonesia during the Clinton’s years?

  • Talktruth

    Hillary to BO: You don’t know SHIT!

    • http://hyper-educated-uppity-woman.blogspot.com Uppity

      Uhhhhhhhhhhhhhh. Aahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.

      He has just spent five minutes on dancing around his own problem by blaming her. Gee what a surprise.

      Narcissist. All the way.

      • http://hyper-educated-uppity-woman.blogspot.com Uppity

        Here comes the response. She should yank him. Honestly I just don’t know how she can stand on the same stage with that infant and not smack him upside his head.

        She took the high road. Boink.

        • beebop

          “I could have had a V-8″

  • mel

    he looks pissed listening to her tear his words apart

  • Eurogirl70

    Yeah George…..

    you couldn’t cut it in a Clinton campaign so this is your way of giving Senator Clinton a hard time.

  • http://takeaction.wordpress.com/ A.Citizen

    First pitch…it’s Wright over the middle of the plate!

    STRIKE ONE!

    Here comes the next one…..Rezko on the inside corner…

    STRIKE TWO!

    Everyone waits…waits….Oh my, it’s a screw ball on the Auchi!

    STRIKE THREE!

    GIBSON HAS FANNED OBAMA. HE’S STRUCK OUT!

    IT’S OVER!

  • Talktruth

    I don’t think he is a person of faith. I think he’s a person of ideology.

    • PMS

      I don’t think he is a person of faith. I think he’s a person of ideology.

      Excellent observation!

    • sayitnow

      My mother aways told me ” you will be know by the company you keep”! I have found that to be a truth in life. I have had seventy five years to see that my mother was right.Excuses are the road to failure. Obama has choosen to be with these people.

  • Amanda

    BO: I have done more than anyone, well no, I have done more than most for people of faith :D .
    Yeap, it’s official, he is God.

    • TeresaINPa

      Done more WHAT than other people of faith? More Crack? More bullshitting about what a great Christian he is? WTF? I am not watching, I guess I am going to have to later when it reruns.

  • Kevin

    Okay, the “can’t be condescending to people of faith” was a gimme… he left his guard down -right or wrong, the Wright controversy is there…(he should anticipate an immediate following jab)

    • Kevin

      See… he didn’t anticipate a natural, reflexive jab. Hillary retorts…

  • http://noquarterusa.net/ SusanUnPC

    SOMEBODY is in a snit! over being criticized!

    • http://noquarterusa.net/ SusanUnPC

      He’s lecturing her now … trying to beat her down … bad move, Barry. You look mean and low.

      • Kevin

        What’s w/ the presumptive “beat down”? They’re “debating” or more to the point – trying so show why they’re the better (job) candidate.

        They’re both going to put their individual foot forward. Though… so far, I’d have to say she’s got a slight (expected) edge in the debate. So far she’s doing better in this one than in the previous… IMHO

        O.M.F.G – Did Charlie Gibson actually just try to balance out an attack re: Wright by asking Hillary about the rest of the church?????

        I’m shocked.

  • Talktruth

    Telling people they’re stupid doesn’t help pay the bills, either.

  • Fleaflicker

    Gibson to Obama: The Bitter question

    Don’t you think people think that is patronizing.

    Obama: I make frickin mistakes. Get over it. Now he talks all flowery about how bad things are. The point he was making was that people feel like Washington isn’t listening to them then they find refuge in religion and voting about guns. because they are frustrated. People are bitter because they are getting wedgies? People are angry. Not bitter.

    Hillary: Granddaughter of a factory worker. Active in methodist church. Her family wasn’t clinging to religion when Washington didn’t listen to them. People don’t cling to guns when they are frustrated with the government.

    She understands why people are offended by SnObama’s remarks. But despite their frustration they are looking for leadership.

    George S: Richardson call: She said Obama can’t be elected. Does she think Obama can beat McCain.

    Hillary: Democratic candidate will beat McCain. Praises McCain but says he has wrong ideas about America. Obama can win but she can do a better job. She will be the best President and the strongest candidate.

    Obama: I am the better candidate. Now to get on Hillary. He can’t be condescending toward people of faith because he is a person of faith. Gun owners love me. Hillary is beating a dead horse. It isn’t helping people pay bills. Brings up the baking cookie comment.

    Oh… and Obama is NOT wearing a flag pin.

    • Kevin

      And he should be wearing a pin why? Oh, I guess Hillary is wearing a pin because she knows that’s the better political play, regardless of how she feels about the necessity of said pin????

      • beebop

        Actually, she wasn’t wearing a pin ;)

    • TeresaINPa

      he says she is beating a dead horse and then brings up something from 1992? ROFL

      • Fleaflicker

        Exactly. I thought the irony amusing as well.

  • Mechan

    TELL HE TO SHUT THE F UP….PUT A MUZZLE ON HIM…

  • Eurogirl70

    I can’t wait for Bill Richardson to have a sexual harassment lawsuit leveled against him

    Yeah Obama, you bring in people of faith like Donnie McClurkin on the campaign stump. (I got cured from being gay)

    As for gun owners, my understanding is that it is against the law inside of the city of Chicago to own a handgun….so it is interesting that he references gun owners in his home constituency.

    isn’t interesting that the question was about who could win, and Obama has to go back to mean old Clinton calling him out for his comments. (and rightfully so!!)

  • Mechan

    she should have put her flag pin on….that would have been great

  • Psychodrew

    Is he seriously comparing his condescending statement toward blue-collar workers to Hillary’s “baking cookies” statement? What a jerk!

  • http://Supergram.blogspot.com Melissa

    Oh My GOD! Charlie is actaully asking about Wright!!! Go Charlie!
    Oabam is wiggling again! Still lying not answering!

    • Psychodrew

      And he doesn’t answer the question. He defends Wright instead of explaining his dishonesty!

  • Talktruth

    Liar!

  • http://hyper-educated-uppity-woman.blogspot.com Uppity

    Bahahaha. The Reverend Goddamnamerikkkka.

    Bosnia can’t be far behind.

    I wonder if this debate will get to healthcare and the economy so Hillary can whack him.

    This stuff is moose poop.

  • Amanda

    ncncncn, defending his church (with Hamas pamphlet) but couldn’t defend his own granny.

  • Talktruth

    Liar! Why didn’t you dissociate yourself from your new Rev. Moss, who clapped Wright on the back while he “preached” his hate??

    • http://hyper-educated-uppity-woman.blogspot.com Uppity

      Why doesn’t he just admit the guy is a psycho and get it over with. The end.

      Oh cripes now they are asking her about Rev Wright, what the hell are they doing?

  • Fleaflicker

    Hillary: We need to get enough votes to win in November. Repubs jumped on SnObama’s comments. My record is much better than him. I have a proven record. I respect people.

    Gibson: Race speech question. Never heard Wright say that crap? But rescinded the invitation to him when he announced for nomination. Why did it take so long.

    Obama: He didn’t see or hear the remarks on Youtube. I have discussed this extensively. These comments are objectionable. But the snippets aren’t Wright. The church provides comfort. What i tried to do was lie about all this crap and hoodwink you bunch of white folks. It’s been working pretty well so far.

  • TeresaINPa

    I am counting on you all to be as specific and honest as possible. I just can’t turn it on. I am so tired of watching this extraordinary woman get her beat up in the media and I can’t stand Obama, I would have to listen to him too.

  • http://Supergram.blogspot.com Melissa

    Don’t protestant church’s hire their own pastors? I am catholic- we have to take what the Bishop sends

    • http://hyper-educated-uppity-woman.blogspot.com Uppity

      LOL Melissa. I was raised a Catholic and we got some beauties too.

    • http://hyper-educated-uppity-woman.blogspot.com Uppity

      Hey Melissa, I heard several times that Catholics like Hillary a lot. Is that true? I mean there are only 70 million of them! That’s a nice vote block.

    • TeresaINPa

      yes we hire our own and they work for us. It is a very democratic set up. The members vote on EVERYTHING top to bottom.

      some off brand churches are owned by the pastor him/herself.
      I could call myself Reverend TeresaInPa and start my own church and I would still be a protestant church leader.

  • http://hyper-educated-uppity-woman.blogspot.com Uppity

    I want her suit. Somebody get me that suit.

  • Mechan

    WHAT AREN’T WE GETTING……”HE DIDN’T HEAR THE REMARKS”….ASS

  • Eurogirl70

    Did you see the smirk on his face? What a smug little bastard. That is why the media hardly ever pans the camera over to him, because ypu see just what kind of a person he really is.

  • http://Supergram.blogspot.com Melissa

    LIAR! Rescinded the invitation on another issue?? What the hell else did that lunatic Wright say?

  • http://liberalrapture.com Lynne

    Teresa – I’m with you. I just can’t watch so thanks everyone for letting us know what’s going on.

  • Talktruth

    She can’t help her nutty ex-pastor. He wasn’t screaming anti-American, anti-black rhetoric while she was in church!

  • http://Supergram.blogspot.com Melissa

    BO’s blood pressure is going through the roof- look at his ears!

  • Eurogirl70

    If you have known anyone for 20 years, chances are they have offended you at least once. He calls this man an uncle, but has never heard anything disparging (conveniently) coming out of his mouth.

  • http://hyper-educated-uppity-woman.blogspot.com Uppity

    I’m sorry folks. But this debate is without substance so far. Am I off here?

  • Talktruth

    The work you’ve done – what work would that be?

    • http://Supergram.blogspot.com Melissa

      Exactly?? his present votes qualify as work?

  • http://Supergram.blogspot.com Melissa

    This is interesting- it looks like it’s slam Obama night! About time!

    • http://hyper-educated-uppity-woman.blogspot.com Uppity

      They are saving her for last, don’t kid yourself.

      • Amanda

        I agree :( . Bosnia next :( .

  • Eurogirl70

    Obama, Hillary has lived in the public spotlight for the past 20+ years. She has been fully vetted. For him to say that anything about Clinton is going to come out that will be as remotely offensive as his pals, he is completely living in a dream world.

    Oh poor Rev. Wright, he has been threw so much, but now he has received his final reward with a 10,000 square foot house.

    PRAISE JESUS!!

    • http://hyper-educated-uppity-woman.blogspot.com Uppity

      ROFL. Poor baby. They pulled him off with a hook though. Except he did a funeral and couldn’t shut his mouth.

    • http://takeaction.wordpress.com/ A.Citizen

      STRIKE ONE!

  • Amanda

    He is downright defending the rev. Open and clear. Rev Right is patriotic cause he was a marine …

  • Mechan

    HIS EARS KILL ME….DID YOU SEE HIS FACE WHEN GEORGE ASKED JUST SAID…”YOU DISOWNED HIM”?????

    HE GOT CAUGHT OFF GUARD ON THAT ONE..

    HEY,….DOESN’T HE REMIND YOU OF CURIOUS GEORGE…LOL

    • http://Supergram.blogspot.com Melissa

      yup- watch the ears- they get all red when he gets annoyed
      And yes she mentioned Hamas- too bad George or Charlie didn’t do it

    • Kevin

      “DOESN’T HE REMIND YOU OF CURIOUS GEORGE…”

      WTF?

      • TeresaINPa

        I do not think the comment was meant the way you took it. I immediately thought the commenter was talking about George Bush because that is what we used to call him.

  • Talktruth

    Be funny if she mentioned the Hamas endorsement :-D .

  • http://Supergram.blogspot.com Melissa

    Did Hillary just mention Farrakhan???? Go girl!

  • Fleaflicker

    Gibson to Hillary: You said he wouldn’t have been my pastor.

    Do you believe 8000 people of that church should have walked out.

    Hillary: I was speaking for myself. Wright blaming 9/11 on America.. she would have left. maybe it is just a personal decision but I would have walked out. Obama indeed wouldn’t have. (she didn’t say that)

    Obama: I already said I wasn’t on church that day. Hillary’s former pastor talked about how Wright had been mischaracterized.

    I wasn’t there when he said it. A church is more than a pastor. Unless we bridge these problems we will get no where.

    George S: Does Wright LOVE America as much as you? What will you do if these videos are played.

    Obama: If not these videos then others. If Hillary is candidate she will have lots of videos. I have track record of doing really cool things. Damn shame there is no real record of them. Wright loves the country because he was a marine.

    Hillary: So many variations on the explanations we were told. this needs to be examined further. We need to find ways to overcome this frustration.

    As leaders we have to decide who we associate with. Farrakhan, Hamas, Wright and Obama.

    Whew! You go girl!

  • Kevin

    Hmmmmm… are they really trying to “make nice” (a little) to unite the party against McCain??

    Problem is, I think the damage is done and a runaway train (or pair) has been set in motion that I don’t know if they can regain control. At the very least I hope we point the runaway at the GOP.

    Then again, they’re both locked into “modes” and the questions being fired their way are going to take them off the Us vs. McCain.

    This is looking and sounding like a “media event” more and more – by that; driven by the media for entertainment and market share tonight.

    • http://Supergram.blogspot.com Melissa

      I agree
      Media entertainment

    • beebop

      God. Please just go.

  • Psychodrew

    I’m no apologist for Obama, but George S pressing him on whether Wright is patriotic is rather stupid. I have a feeling that he’s going to go after Hillary on Bosnia next.

    • http://hyper-educated-uppity-woman.blogspot.com Uppity

      andddddddddddd you were Wright…um right.

  • http://hyper-educated-uppity-woman.blogspot.com Uppity

    I love the Bosnia thing. It’s the only thing they have. Meantime, there’s Nafta-wink-wink. No it didn’t happen, yes it did. No credibility problem there. The Fictional books called autobiographies. No credibility problem there either. Then the Wright thing. Then those poor hicks. It just goes on and on. Hillary needs to make another mistake.

    • http://hyper-educated-uppity-woman.blogspot.com Uppity

      Wow. I’m sorry. Love to hear Obama say that just once.

  • http://thehorizontalworld.blogspot.com/ Mary Jo Kopechne

    I can’t get the streaming–plus I’d probably puke having to look at him–please keep the updates coming.

  • Kevin

    Yep – goading questions, they’re going to egg the controversy/antagonism rather than ask substantive questions about policy.

    And God forbid they’re given a chance to go back to slamming the GOP, George and McCAIN

  • jimbob

    it is very hard for me to believe that this black messiah has not heard of this idiot preacher. Rev. Wright is a very angry black man that not many in the black community have renounced. All of these black preachers promote churches that I could never see myself in.

  • http://Supergram.blogspot.com Melissa

    Don’t get obsessed wiht gas?? what the hell does that mean?

  • Don

    Please anyone but Hillary. She is a coniving liar!

    • http://hyper-educated-uppity-woman.blogspot.com Uppity

      Penis problem?

    • beebop

      Obviously, not the one who is lying THIS EVENING!

    • http://thehorizontalworld.blogspot.com/ Mary Jo Kopechne

      Don, please throw yourself under a fast moving car

    • Psychodrew

      DFTT

    • TeresaINPa

      let me guess, you have really really small …..shoes.

  • http://hyper-educated-uppity-woman.blogspot.com Uppity

    I just wish just ONCE he would actually SAY what he is going to do about all these issues he identifies. Never. It’s aways identifying the problem but no solution.

    • Talktruth

      Precisely.

    • Psychodrew

      He’s going to hope really really hard! And then the clouds will part. A bright line from the sky will shine down on Washington. Celestial choirs will begin to sing. And then we’ll all hold hands and sing “We are the world.”

      DUH! Don’t you get it!?

  • http://Supergram.blogspot.com Melissa

    Charlie on electability- voter question- American Flag- why won’t he wear the flag

  • Andrew Gepford

    35 minutes and one quarter way through the debate…

    HAVEN’T TALKED ABOUT A SINGLE ISSUE YET.

    WHAT is wrong with this country? The democrats will win the election, not based on the merits of their political philosophy but on the buzz which has erupted around these two candidates.

    It makes me ill to see such a lack of interest on the part of our citizens in relevant issues throughout this campaign.

    • http://hyper-educated-uppity-woman.blogspot.com Uppity

      HAVEN’T TALKED ABOUT A SINGLE ISSUE YET.

      Exactly. No substance.

      • http://hyper-educated-uppity-woman.blogspot.com Uppity

        But on the other hand, it’s about time Obama is forced to address these questions instead of ignoring them.

        • Andrew Gepford

          Not important. We have two hours and a lot of questions about things that actually need to get done. His character is a matter of debate not appropriate for this venue.

          • TeresaINPa

            I disagree, his character is an issue and most of the time he gets top spin with no one to question him.

  • Amanda

    Loool, the pin, the flag :D

    Kevin, I agree it’s a show, but that’s primaries for you.

  • Kevin

    What’s w/ the Freakin’ flag… seriously.

    If it’s part of a uniform, fine, you choose to, fine – but otherwise? And compared to the other issues that will pop up – Gibson thinks the flag thing will be a major issue???? Geez

    • Amanda

      To be honest, it’s not Gibson. Rightwing media, talk radion show rave about this all the time.

      Upppps, Weatherman.

      • Kevin

        that I recognize, but that’s why I don’t think it’s a major issue… a side one, sure, but let’s still w/ real substantive stuff – particularly these two vs the GOP/Right candidate.

        Don’t think it’s gonna play out that way though

  • Don

    I guess that he an Michelle are so proud only becuase they now have money. Love of a country means being proud of the flag. Why won’t he wear it. Once again quibbling and deception not an answer.

  • http://Supergram.blogspot.com Melissa

    Uh, Ah, Uh, blah blah single mother small town in Kansas blah bla win the war in Iraq (did I hear that right?) (I thought he wanted out?)

  • Talktruth

    When he says “Well, look,” it seems to foreshadow massive amounts of BS. Then again, so does everything else he says.

    He “couldn’t help but love this country”? WTF? Like he’s trying not to?

  • barbh

    George: Do you believe that sen. Clinton has been truthful about her past.

    O: I haven’t commented on the issue of BOsnia, George – but you campaign has.

    O: The fact of the matter, both of us have been working as hard as we can to get our message to the American people…Sen Clinton deserves the right to make errors once in a while, I certainly have. goes on to say shouldn’t get hung up on gaffes….

    country in bad shape, blah, blah….shouldn’t be obsessed with these kind of errors.

    says that his campaign hasn’t been about that, been about issues, washington blocking real reform, blah, blah.

    Charlie: Question of basic electiability. Woman asks if BO believes in the American flag…talks about how it is a theme, how do you convince dems, not a vulnerability.

    BO: would not be running for president if he did not revere this country…goes into the single parent, teenage parent (?), grandparent shtick (leaves out the goatherder African father shtick….talks about Iraq…economic fairness, etc..fight for those issues.

    confident during the GE when HE is in a debate with JMC, I gotta stop now overcome by his arrogance….

    • Fleaflicker

      Great job. Certainly a lot better and faster than me. Thanks!

  • Mike Aldridge

    OK So far we’ve heard a lot of he-said-she-said and a few patriotism cahllenges.
    Are we going to hear about what these candidates will do about actual problems once they are in the oval office??
    Economy?
    Energy?
    Sustainability?

  • http://hyper-educated-uppity-woman.blogspot.com Uppity

    Boy he hates to be asked questions. Dodge Dodge Dodge!

    WHoa AYERS!

    • http://hyper-educated-uppity-woman.blogspot.com Uppity

      DODGE.

  • mel

    ayers now

  • barbh

    G: back to patriotism – Goes to AYERS!!!!

    QUotes Ayers, not regret doing enough.

    Asks him to explain his relationship with Ayers!!!

  • helga

    Flag pin???? What an absolutely worthless question. Does Charlie and the woman asking the question wear a flag pin? Soldiers are dying, Bush is wrecking the country and they are asking about flag pins. gag me

  • Eurogirl70

    Obama

    Hillary flew into a war zone. She has been to over 80 countries. You have held no substantive meetings. You claim you do not take money from the oil industry when you do. You never heard anything nasty coming out the mouth of a crazy like Rev. Wright, whom you have known for over 20 years. You called Rezko “that individual” when you had a very cozy relationship with him. You don’t know Auchi, except that you toasted and sang his praises at a dinner in 2004. Now you are saying that you made a trip to Pakistan during your college years….yeah, that’s the ticket!!

  • Don

    Obama may be able to talk but he is dangerous and won’t answer the question directly ever. Hillary is distastful and also a liar but who is worse

    • Eurogirl70

      Screw you Don

      Comparing Hillary Clinton to Barak Obama is crap. That is what you trolls do. Democrat’s-Republican’s, there is no difference. Now you come along and play that little tired game by saying Obama-Clinton, what is the difference, they are all the same!!

      Pull your crap somewhere else!!

  • Andrew Gepford

    How is this even a relevant question? This isn’t America’s Next Top President… its a political campaign! WHERE’S THE SUBSTANCE?

    • Amanda

      It’s a relevant question when it comes to the most important thing. Winning in November.

  • http://texasdarlin.wordpress.com TexasDarlin

    getting very defensive about Ayres…

    • http://hyper-educated-uppity-woman.blogspot.com Uppity

      They should ask him if he would like his sister to bring Ayers home to the family.

  • http://hyper-educated-uppity-woman.blogspot.com Uppity

    Well it was forty years ago so he’s ok now.

    He’s on the WOODs foundation

  • Amanda

    He is pissed about the question. Hillary follows up on Ayers. (Don’t know if this is a good idea)

  • Jonah Quinn

    This debate is absolutely the worst yet. I want to learn something i didn’t know when i watch these debates. At least go over your policy points again.

    These questions are awful.

  • Kevin

    Weak, easy shot – the reality is she’s been on boards and a member of groups w/ individuals who’d she’d quickly say she didn’t agree w/ as well.

  • http://hyper-educated-uppity-woman.blogspot.com Uppity

    He worked on Obma’s campaing in 2001 too. that’s the year he said “we didn’t do enough”

  • barbh

    Defending knowing Ayers.

    Hillary: Says Ayers served on board with BO. Relationship with Mr. Ayers on this board continued after 911, comments deeply hurtful to people in NY. Comments were published on 911? Issue that people will be asking about. BO a good man, she respsects him greatly, Repubs will certainly be raising this….how are we going to run against JMC. Wish that they would apologize for Bush admin…..

    I have a lot of baggage and everyone has been rummaging through it for years….

    • Kevin

      Oh, but the pardon comeback was sweeeet.

      • Amanda

        Yeap, but Ayers wasn’t campaigning for the Clinton’s in 2001, but for BO.

        Either way, I hope they stick to issues now, cause. Bread and butter anyone?

  • Don

    Clinton is like an ugly slug – just lots of slime for her to spread around.

    • simon, too

      Speaking of ugly, dumbo obama ain’t no beauty, and some of us gotta look at that uggshell more than any one person should have to…

  • Fleaflicker

    Some dude about Bosnia: I made a mistake. I am embarrassed and I have apologized. Wes Clark was there. I am proud that I went to a war zone. I know from my experience of going to all of these countries that these experiences will help me battle John McCain. Maybe I should get more sleep.

    George S to Obama: Is Hillary a liar? You said she hasn’t been fully truthful.

    Obama: Sometimes we screw up. We shouldn’t get obsessed with gaffes. this is a defining moment in history. our economy sucks. Foreign policy is shattered. Costs going up. We should forget about these gaffes. Especially mine because I sure don’t want people to think about me being a dumb ass.

    Some lady to Obama: Why don’t you wear the flag?

    Obama: Well look… I revere the American flag. There is no other country in which my story is even possible. The Kansas lie, teenage mom. Yep… couldn’t happen anywhere else. I respect America by all the work i do in the Veterans Committee. I will fight for those issues.

    He doesn’t say a word about the flag pin. He wore one yesterday because a Veteran gave one to him. This is a manufactured issue. Who gives a shit.

    George S to Obama: Ayers question….

    Obama: This is a guy who lives in my neighborhood who I know and who I have not been endorsed by. He doesn’t give me advice on a regular basis. it doesn’t reflect on me very much. Who I know doesn’t mean a thing. Americans are smarter than that.

    Hillary: Obama served on a board with Ayers. paid position. Friendship occurred after Ayers 9/11 comments. It is an issue people will be asking about. This is an issue the republicans will bring up. How are we going to win against John McCain? I have a lot of baggage and everyone has been rummaging through it for years.

    Obama: By Hillary’s own standards she wouldn’t be vetted . Bill Clinton pardoned two weather underground members. People clapping..

    Hillary should go for the jugular here.

    • TeresaINPa

      Bill Pardoned them, not Hillary. She should say “bill is not running for President, you sexist asshole Barry”.

      • Fleaflicker

        You are being much too kind.

  • Talktruth

    No. You’re not doing as well as our Hill against McCranky.

  • barbh

    BO says B. Clinton pardoned two members of WU.

    He says he is doing better in pulling together the coalition that will beat JMC. you don’t have my vote you asshat….

    • Fleaflicker

      Bill Clinton pardoned a few repentant members of the Weather Underground. They weren’t like Ayers at all. Ayers: who wishes he could have done more.

  • ada

    Who is the worst of to evils? Go Ron Paul

  • http://thehorizontalworld.blogspot.com/ Mary Jo Kopechne

    Susan, Can you or someone block Don? He’s a total pig and needs to go.

    • Don

      Don’t waste effort – the dabate is nothing but more the same old stuff we have all heard time and time again. Where is the substance? Yes I absolutely think that Hillary is the worst thing for our country. I was considering Obama until I figured out I could not trust him or his ideas one little bit. So nothing else to do but I guess bug you and go in November and vote for John and hope for the best becuase I am not an idot or a pig and an not seeing a president tonight. Have a nice night.

  • Andrew Gepford

    I can’t wait to see all these debates Obama is willing to have…

  • ada

    Who is the worst of two evils? Go Ron Paul

  • Bud White

    If he steals the nomination via FL & MI, I will do everything I can to defeat him.

  • Eurogirl70

    Again,

    the delusional Obama claims he can hold his own against McCain when in every state we need to win in the GE, they are either neck and neck, (even in states like MA) or McCain is kicking his ass.

    Hillary is the only viable Democratic candidate to go head to head with McCain.

  • Kevin

    I want to hear him and her both talk about energy, economy, etc. – otherwise we’re just watching two good fighters in a full contact sparring match.

  • http://hyper-educated-uppity-woman.blogspot.com Uppity

    His sycophants just have no self control whatsoever. The pattern is always the same. They want to Hoot and holler and ruckus up.

    • Kevin

      like you aren’t sitting at home doing the same for Hill… as if you wouldn’t do the same for her were you there and she got a good one off, propriety be damned??

  • http://Supergram.blogspot.com Melissa

    Hello? how about green jobs, the economy? Health care?
    I mean it’s nice and all that the moderators are finally giving the public a hint about his evil connections but can we please see her kick his ass on issues???

  • http://www.sugarnspice.typepad.com Sugar

    Woooooh! They are getting up in his ass tonight!!! hahahahaahaha She totally won that “round”. He is fatigued and he’s an idiot.

    • http://hyper-educated-uppity-woman.blogspot.com Uppity

      Hiya Sugar!! Still in one piece or did you get threatened today? Did you take the Hill bumper sticker off yet? We don’t want to lose you!

    • http://Supergram.blogspot.com Melissa

      Hey! How u doin? Hope u haven’t had any more trouble

  • SensibleWoman

    Do they appear to you all to be keeping Obama supporters at bay with the applause? God, I hope they are. It would be the respectful thing to do considering how rude they were to Hillary the other day.

    • http://hyper-educated-uppity-woman.blogspot.com Uppity

      Respect from that bunch?? Hahaha. It’s McGovern all over again. Next thing they will be marching and demonstrating and generally scaring the shit out of all the adults who will go to the polls thinking let’s get rid of this guy now!

      I cannot believe how McGovern this campaign is. It’s exact. And as we all know McGovern got, what, 38% in the election? It was a massacre and it was all because of the same type of uncontrolled, rude supporters.

      • SensibleWoman

        Uppity, I gotcha. :-) I should’ve been more clear and said it would be the respectful thing for those putting on the debate, meaning ABC, to keep those BO dorks at bay.

    • Kevin

      I’ve heard one spontaneous outburst that quickly died off even as the questioner said something…

      Yet, I keep reading comments about thugs, unruly supporters, etc. – not to forget the comment earlier about Obama’s ears and him looking like curious george, and I’m not supposed to hear stereotyping?

      • simon, too

        dumbo, you forgot dumbo.

        I keep expecting dumbo to lift off with those years, or break into another, what me worry? grin, ala the MAD cartoon guy.

        Obama takes money from Auchi, given that, how many deaths do you hink he’s connected to , indirectly?

        Or how many has he profited from, indirectly?

        You know, no matter how you paint, that pollution fills up the river, and you can’t ignore it, and Obama can’t either…

        tick tick tick

        • Kevin

          Dumbo I could care less about – but your “murder” comment –

          You’re kidding right? Ummmm… let’s just ask a similar question considering how much more money from such a broader pool of questionable sources that both Clintons have…

          Or for that matter – every day either of us or anyone reading this handling cash is indirectly touching something that might be directly or indirectly linked to a crime and or death… what all of your dollar bills come from your own printing press?

          Please – make your point w/o the hyperbole… you just weaken it.

  • Mechan

    Jonah, I agree with you….these really are silly questions now…45 minutes into this and we still haven’t hit substance…waste of time at this rate…except the fact that it was good to see him dander up….he doesn’t liked to be questioned…

    hey, get use to it, this is just the beginning

  • http://www.sugarnspice.typepad.com Sugar

    I’m so glad they brought up William Ayers! LMAO He would NEVER beat McCain in a general election. My phone hasn’t rang yet from a single Obamatron. THey are all pissed!!!!

    • http://hyper-educated-uppity-woman.blogspot.com Uppity

      Well of course they are pissed. They have enjoyed the free, protective ride the MSM has given him. They aren’t smart enough to realize the MSM is seasoning Obama for the kill.

  • Andrew Gepford

    I’d like to pose a question? Why can’t the candidates speak to us as if we were adults? Why can’t they answer questions with honesty and simplicity (aka naturally… truthfully)? Sometimes I feel like these debates are merely exercises in evasiveness.

    CAN SOMEONE THROW US SOME REAL ANSWERS TO REAL QUESTIONS?

    • http://hyper-educated-uppity-woman.blogspot.com Uppity

      Sure, what do you want to know? Hahahaha.

  • http://Supergram.blogspot.com Melissa

    Well, when I think about it this might be a good thing. Maybe all the e-mails and letters we have been sending asking them to expose his creepy friendhsips finally got to them
    Watch Obama (yeah I knwo hard to do without gagging) his jaw gets all tight, he looks like he’s grinding his teeth and those ears! What a give! Not a poker player at all!

  • http://www.sugarnspice.typepad.com Sugar

    Uppity, I’m not even taking that sticker off…yet. After the nomination is rightfully given to Hillary in August, it is off with the quickness, lest one of those Obamazoids knock out my windows.

    You know, I’m just fine with these questions. We’ve already seen her trounce him on the issues time and time again. It’s time to unzip that fucking sheep suit he’s wearing.

    • http://Supergram.blogspot.com Melissa

      ROFL he is getting creamed

  • Andrew Gepford

    A question with a yes or no answer shouldn’t require a 2 minute answer… I’m just putting that out there

  • ChrisXP

    That was the shortest debate I sat through. Lost me after Ayers. My cats were more interesting in wanting chicken, than the debate held my attention. Sis went back to her computer, mom to the kitties.

    Nothing new. Each is trying the “we’re so happy together” routine.

    …sigh…

  • Andrew Gepford

    or rather, a yes or no question should not

  • Eunice

    Thanks for nothing ABC! We’ve had enough of the dirt of the campaign. When are you going to ask a question about something that matters to us, The People?

  • jammy

    please talk about the issues. get away from these craps of who said what or did what for who…

    • Marco

      I cant believe we are talking about the dirt of the campaign.

      -Marco_14

      • Mrjonessr

        Guess you were wrong u people don’t listen for the sustance dam no wonder the rebubes keep winning.

        • simon, too

          Speaking of men who don’t know what’s going on, mr jones.

          Bitch, isn’t it?

        • TeresaINPa

          hey Mr Jones, you wife has a thing going on.

  • Eurogirl70

    Watch it….

    Clinton goes on to give a thoughtful answer about pulling our troops out of Iraq.

    Obama’s response is going to be (yeah, what she said).

    I will offer everyone a shot of Crown Royal if I am correct!!

    • Mechan

      I’LL TAKE you up on the crown…lol

  • http://www.sugarnspice.typepad.com Sugar

    Eurogirl, I want my shot, so don’t renege!

    • Eurogirl70

      Hey Sugar.

      I live inside the Beltway too. I will make sure that you get your shot and that your windows don’t get knocked out!!

      Mechan

      Salut!!

      • Mechan

        right back at ya….Salut!!

  • Andrew Gepford

    HAHAHAHA! Oh Hilary… I can’t wait to see the Iraqis take up the democratic process once we leave Iraq. I’m not saying we should remain there, just that we should cut the bs when we talk about the effects of the war…

    • http://hyper-educated-uppity-woman.blogspot.com Uppity

      Turn em all over to each other and go in for the cleanup. I am sick of going into debt for all these savages. We should confiscate the oil profits and pay ourselves back.

  • http://hyper-educated-uppity-woman.blogspot.com Uppity

    Here we are on Iraq. Healthcare??????? Economy????????

  • Dennis

    This debate has been a waste of an hour. So far no one has said anything about anything that they wil really do! Can we start asking useful questions!?

    • ChrisXP

      This debate has been a waste of an hour. So far no one has said anything about anything that they wil really do!

      Oh, yeah they did about Iraq.

      Might as well throw in the towel for the GE, while McInsane uses it to mop up the nomination.

      Listen to the Far-Left about Iraq, and it’s bye bye in November — we can’t just leave in 60 days, it’ll ALL implode with the Iraqis hating our guts worse. That’s like saying after V-E and V-J day, we were out of Germany and Japan 60 days afterwards.

      AGH!!!

  • Andrew Gepford

    Iraq – military presence = Unavoidable turmoil there

    its not really that complicated to see if you look at the context in which this conflict began

    • http://hyper-educated-uppity-woman.blogspot.com Uppity

      They are in civil war. Let em sort it out like we sorted ours out. We have our own problems. Now if we went after those Saudi Pigs, I might not feel so bad.

  • Bob

    I can not believe how stupid the beginning of this debate was. Are George S. &
    Charlie G. out of their minds? The trash level of their old-news-who-cares questions was nothing more than tabloid trash… Enough is enough!
    I really expected better…

    • Andrew Gepford

      Why? The uninformed majority want to know about the IMPORTANT aspects of our prospective candidates.

  • Beanie

    Mmmm, that was a tasty shot. Thanks Eurogirl!

  • http://www.sugarnspice.typepad.com Sugar

    POCKISTON. lmao

    • http://hyper-educated-uppity-woman.blogspot.com Uppity

      ROFL. POCKISTAN is GOOOOOOOOOOD.

  • yttik

    Ha! I just peeked in on a dailyobama site. They’re not enjoying this debate very much, LOL.

    • Talktruth

      They seemed a little subdued today, when I went by earlier. I’m taking that as a good sign :-J.

  • Fleaflicker

    Gibson to Hillary: Do candidates have a plan to get out of Iraq? if military said it would destabilize Iraq are you going to do it anyway?

    Hillary: Civilians control military. Best interests of the country and Iraq to withdrawal within 60 days. Responsible and careful manner. Iraqis no longer have a blank check. Commitment to withdraw makes Iraqis do what they need to do. Work with other countries to help stabilize region. I will make this decision!

    Gibson: Do you know better than the military commanders?

    I am sure that our staying in Iraq makes it impossible to have strength in any other part of the world, like Afghanistan.

    We don’t know what will happen if we withdraw but we do know what will happen if we stay. We will be unable to exert our moral leadership and strength in the world.

    Obama, you too?

    Damn right. What Hillary said because I can’t think on my own about this and that Power chick let the cat out of the bag about what I really mean. So I am going to hide behind Hillary’s pantsuit.

    • http://hyper-educated-uppity-woman.blogspot.com Uppity

      LOL! Mommyyyyyy! Save meeeeeeeeee!!!

  • barbh

    CG: CIC sets the mission, that’s not the roles of the general. Will always listen to generals on the ground, he will give them a new mission (scary thought that). The buck will stop with him as CIC. Not just look at situation in Iraq, but Al Queda in Pakistan and Afghanistan. No strategic reserve…maybe he will draft all his obamatron supporters..!!!

    • barbh

      oops that was BO that said that not CG…

  • Talktruth

    Why doesn’t he just say “What she said…and please don’t bring up the European Nato subcomittee…please!”

    • simon, too

      Ha!

      NATO, thank you for reminding everyone these issues are highly complex, and the answers rehearsed with McPeak the moron just don’t cut it in the real world.

  • http://www.sugarnspice.typepad.com Sugar

    Well, I’m absolutely LOVING this debate. Finally, let BHO take some lashes!

    • http://hyper-educated-uppity-woman.blogspot.com Uppity

      Bet he’s glad he’s wearing his regular black suit tonight. The arm pit sweat doesn’t show.

  • http://v4hil.com v4hill

    I thought they were going to balance the clock….

    • Andrew Gepford

      lol

  • Fleaflicker

    We have to keep nukes from Iran. But I would still like to sit down, have tea and a nice chat with Akmadidajad or whatever his frickin name is. And Hamas and any other of my terrorist buddies. Hell, I’ll send Ayers over there. He will straighten things out. Count on it.

  • Don

    So Mary Jo what are your comments??

  • Fleaflicker

    Uh oh… Hillary is talking about 3 tools. Who do you think she is talking about?

  • http://www.sugarnspice.typepad.com Sugar

    BHO is a joke. He can’t even get those responses out in a timely fashion. DAyum! By the time he makes a hotdamn decision, Al Qaeda would be on the White House lawn.

    • ChrisXP

      Al Qaeda would be on the White House lawn.

      Heck, Obama will even invite them over. Rev. Wright will even have a sermon, and blame the USA again for everything.

      Obama’s wife will grin that grin of hate.

      Well, think it’s about time to make that bomb shelter and stock up…….

  • Talktruth

    Hill-excellent point about Ahmadinejad – shows BO as having bad judgment.

  • Andrew Gepford

    Maybe the U.S. should be the sole keeper of nukes. Seems like thats what we’re driving at here…

    How about total disarmament?

  • http://www.food4humanity.org HoosierHoops

    IT HAS TAKEN 55 MINUTES TO GET TO THE FIRST QUESTION ABOUT IRAQ!!!
    THIS IS OUR DEM DEBATE?
    Hillary’s answer was great..She can do what obama promises to do.
    I vote for Hillary may 6th.. and i pray we do nothing but talk about Iraq 24/7. Iraq!!!
    It’s the economy/Iraq stupid!!
    back to the debate

  • Fleaflicker

    When Obama looks over at Hillary he doesn’t look pleased at all. Anyone else notice this?

    • http://Supergram.blogspot.com Melissa

      He is PISSED! That is what I was getting at earlier with his ears- the tops of his ears get redder and redder the more mad he gets. His jaw is all tight- looks like he is gonna bust a tooth!

      • Fleaflicker

        He really does look pissed!

    • Mechan

      I see that look he gives her all the time…if looks could kill, she’d be dead….screw him….I hope she keeps smirking at him….

  • http://thehorizontalworld.blogspot.com/ Mary Jo Kopechne

    Is BO talking about having drinks with Ahmadinejad?

  • http://www.sugarnspice.typepad.com Sugar

    God, Hill got a kick out of that McCain clip! lmao

    • Talktruth

      She has a great laugh – she is very authentic.

  • http://Supergram.blogspot.com Melissa

    Taxes on the wealthy- watch out Hillary- the BOYZ will have fits!

  • Andrew Gepford

    How do you expect to pay for fundamental social programs without a tax hike? Isn’t this the price we inherently pay for such services? Maybe if we had more of them paying more in taxes wouldn’t sound so terrible.

    • simon, too

      Um, no, how do we pay for a healthy democracy without taxes?

      I swear it just gets dumber and dumber, that whole group, whether it’s Obama, or the stupid ruch republicans.

      how ya gonna pay for those war?

      Who is gonna pay that graft?

    • ChrisXP

      How do you expect to pay for fundamental social programs without a tax hike? Isn’t this the price we inherently pay for such services?

      History 101: Revolutionary War and the real reason for the Civil War — high tariffs on cotton, to benefit northern mills.

      That’s the price the US pays for high taxes.

  • Eurogirl70

    Yeah Fleaflicker

    Obama looks like, “but don’t they all know who I am”. I am the saviour. I am the chosen one!!

  • http://www.sugarnspice.typepad.com Sugar

    Let’s see what mush -mouth says.

  • Andrew Gepford

    Flat tax anyone?

  • Fleaflicker

    George S to Hillary: Are you going to raise taxes?

    Hillary: I am going to roll back the tax breaks for people making $250,000 per year. I am committed to NOT raising taxes on the middle class.

    Go to my website. I pay for everything I propose.

    Obama? I will cut your taxes. You will get up to a $1000 if you vote for me. It’s why I have been raising so much money. And blah blah blah. Damn this guy is boring.

  • Talktruth

    I think in his “regular” life, he’s used to an adoring audience, and no back-talk.

    • http://Supergram.blogspot.com Melissa

      He talks like a professor lecturing- waiting for the students to suck up and repeat back what he said so he can give them an “A”

  • Andrew Gepford

    THANK YOU BO!!!

  • http://www.sugarnspice.typepad.com Sugar

    He just made up a policy on live television. LMAO

  • http://v4hil.com v4hill

    OMG, will someone cut off that rambling fool… Is this a Obama press conference? Or a debate?

  • Andrew Gepford

    Why raise it at all? Wealth is disproportionately dispersed in this country. Shouldn’t those who benefit most from the system give the most back?

    • http://Supergram.blogspot.com Melissa

      AMEN! To those who have been given much, much will be required.

  • http://hyper-educated-uppity-woman.blogspot.com Uppity

    I want to hear about health care, because I honestly don’t think Obama has a clue what a single pay health care policy costs. When he keeps saying he’s going to save people 2500 a year it’s chicken feed. People still won’t be able to afford a single pay policy. Here, it costs nearly $900 a month for ONE person on an HMO. A family is more like $2000. PER MONTH. 2500 isn’t going to help anybody on a single pay policy. These are the nearly fifty million uninsured people. They cannot afford single pay.

  • http://www.sugarnspice.typepad.com Sugar

    My gawd, he’s been talking for so long, if they intend to really “balance” the time, the last 25 minute are Hillary’s. lmao What a numbnuts! He’s probably got blueballs with that foolish wife of his. lol

    • Don

      Watch out Sugar Mary jo will try to get you banned for being a pig as she referred to me.

  • http://v4hil.com v4hill

    ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

  • http://texasdarlin.wordpress.com TexasDarlin

    what does Charlies’ master clock say? Is it me, or is BO talking more than HRC?

    • http://hyper-educated-uppity-woman.blogspot.com Uppity

      It takes him longer to think something up.

  • Amanda

    Loooool, Gibson is my guy :D . Capital gain anybody? BO is flipping on these issues.

  • http://hyper-educated-uppity-woman.blogspot.com Uppity

    She’s smart. She gets a boatload of time at the end.

    • http://texasdarlin.wordpress.com TexasDarlin

      lol, i was thinking the same thing!

  • Andrew Gepford

    We could if those people who make more then 200,000 a year paid just a little more each year in tax. BUT WAIT! WE CAN’T DO THAT! THEY MAY STARVE… OR NOT BE ABLE TO MAKE IT TO ASPEN NEXT SEASON!

    • http://hyper-educated-uppity-woman.blogspot.com Uppity

      OMG that’s so funny.

    • http://Supergram.blogspot.com Melissa

      WHAAAAA maybe they won’t be able to buy arugula or $99 a pound ham WHAAAAA
      And why don’t they eliminate the limit on SS tax???? Rich people get SS benefits don’t they?

  • Beanie

    I love these moderators. Yes, they’re not hitting the issues (really, by now you should know where each candidate stands), but they are not letting either candidate sidestep the answers. They are prepared, and when either candidate tries to gloss over something…they seem to be right there with the facts. So much better than Campbell Brown or others who could barely contain their admiration for Obama.

  • Amanda

    PS: She used the word “typical” :D .

  • Andrew Gepford

    Yea… let’s keep hitting up those who have the least for money in stead of raising taxes for higher income brackets… its worked brilliantly since 2000…!!!

  • Eurogirl70

    Wow Obama

    I thought that article came out months ago, and it was Warren Buffet who said it when referring to his tax rate and that of his secretary.

    Just because you have stocks, does not mean you had any control in investing in them. Your 401K is diversified and the manager decides how that money will be invested. If a stock tanks, you take the loss. During the Eisenhower years, the tax rate for the wealthiest 1% was at 90%. People still got wealthy. They just didn’t become robber barrons. Obama. always accuses Hillary of throwing the kitchen sink at him, when in fact during every debate he throws in every extraneous piece of info that he has heard in passing because he thinks it makes him look smarter. Instead, it makes him looking like the grasping ignorant ass that he is!!

  • vincent

    Referring to OUR country — just noticed thar Hillary said “Our” country vs BO said “The” country!! ………. food for thouight………..

    • Kevin

      right… that plus the lack of the flag pin proves He’s the Marxist anti-christ I suppose? lol

      • simon, too

        Actually, when you look at the whole picture, it’s really saying something.

        You know how it’s done, right, Kev?

  • jimbob

    do less tax on the rich grow the economy, didn’t it fail under ronnie regan, and bush 1 paid for it when the USA went into recession due to Regan’s econ. plan.
    hoe can the reTHUGS continue to harp on this trickle down BullSh$$.

    as for taxes, my state & local tax, especially property tax, are outrageous, because the federal gov’t continues to push programs to the states, medicaid is a great example.

    what do they have to say about the subsidies going to ethanol at the expense of basic food.

    • http://Supergram.blogspot.com Melissa

      Let’s see what was that called trickle down, no VOODOO economics nope did not work!

  • Andrew Gepford

    THANK YOU BO! People need to understand how much these people don’t have to pay because of loopholes and deductions…

  • Eurogirl70

    Obams saying that he wants to respond quickly.

    I will give anyone another shot of Crown Royal, if this putz answers anything quickly!!

  • http://texasdarlin.wordpress.com TexasDarlin

    BO always has to get in the last word, like an impatient bossy schoolkid.

    • http://hyper-educated-uppity-woman.blogspot.com Uppity

      I bet he wet the bed till he was 12.

  • Eurogirl70

    Obama saying that he wants to respond quickly.

    I will give anyone another shot of Crown Royal, if this putz answers anything quickly!!

    • http://hyper-educated-uppity-woman.blogspot.com Uppity

      He really is boring impromptu. reminds me of some professors I slept through.

  • Talktruth

    Bastard!

  • http://v4hil.com v4hill

    she should say “is this the new politics of hope barack?”

  • Talktruth

    As long as we’re fake drinking, Eurogirl, I’ll take two :-J.

  • ChrisXP

    Raising PAYROLL TAXES??????!!!!!

    PUT A FORK IN IT, IT’S OVER!!!

  • Andrew Gepford

    This i don’t agree with. Our population is growing at an exponential rate. This system cannot continue. WE HAVE REACHED THE CARRYING CAPACITY HERE

  • http://hyper-educated-uppity-woman.blogspot.com Uppity

    Even her worst detractors will EVER say she doesn’t know her stuff.

  • Fleaflicker

    Hillary: We know we need to get back to an economy that works for everyone. The good ole nineties. I don’t want to take a single penny from anyone. We can create jobs. that will move the economy. Good union jobs. Tackle the housing crisis. Freeze foreclosures. Freeze interest rates. We need to invest. I will not raise the capital gains tax above the 20% it was during the first Clinton Administration. I am against Obama’s plan of raising the cap on the payroll tax.

    Obama: I have to respond because of what she said. Because she made me look bad and therefore I am going to bore the rest of you because well, doggone it she made me look bad. She said something in Iowa that was recorded somewhere in Iowa. She is a liar. And I am going to continue to talk even though you guys think you can get me to play fair and give equal time.

    Hillary jumps in. Fiscal responsibility is the most important thing you can do with Social Security.

    You can almost see her invisibly flipping off Obama. And he can see it.

  • http://Supergram.blogspot.com Melissa

    GOD now I really need a shot! Straight up! No back

  • Mitch Bartley

    I hope they start asking more questions about the issues, but one thing in particular I would ask them about if I had the chance is what their feeling is about government back student loans and healthcare. As a medical student, I fear increased interest rates on student loans and losing the ability to defer those loans while I’m in residency when I likely will not make enough to cover living expenses in addition to making my student loan payments. In terms of healthcare, I like both of their plans, but am interested in how they plan to pay for their ideas, and how they think it will affect physicians.

    • http://Supergram.blogspot.com Melissa

      I heard Hillary speak to student loans a few weeks ago- she is really committed to getting the cost down. Go to Hillary’s web site click on the fact Hub, go to the issues box on the right side of the page and click on the education section. Lots of good stuff there. My daughter is in college- this is a big issue for us too.

      • http://Supergram.blogspot.com Melissa

        This plan also builds on Hillary’s work in the Senate to make college more affordable. As Senator, she has worked to enact an:

        Income contingent repayment option – Hillary successfully included a provision in the College Cost Reduction Act, which was signed into law in September, which would give student borrowers of federal loans the right to fair monthly payments that do not exceed 15% of the borrower’s discretionary income. After 25 years of payments, the remaining balance will be forgiven.

        More at the Fact Hub under issues

  • Andrew Gepford

    THE GOOD OLE 90′S?

    Im sorry, I love Clinton as much as the next dem. But that was the dot com boom, not clinton’s economic genius. He just got credit because he was there at the time…

    • http://hyper-educated-uppity-woman.blogspot.com Uppity

      My portfolio misses him a LOT. But then I never did invest in stupid fads.

      • http://hyper-educated-uppity-woman.blogspot.com Uppity

        If you were a blue chipper during clinton, you couldn’t even count your profits fast enough.

    • simon, too

      But, Andrew, the President in part decides the economic zeitgeist, and confidence in Clinton’s leadership had much to do with the economic growth.

      Just about any artist or writer, a real one, anyway, can tell you that…

      With Bush, it’s been flat.

  • http://v4hill.com v4hill

    Does this mean that Barack has people following Hillary around with hidden digital voice recorders hoping to make some sort of slimeball remark at a debate??????

    • Mechan

      did you pick up on that remark from Obama too?
      Someone in Iowa!…..he is the creepiest bastard, sissified ass I have ever met……nothing manly about him…AT ALL…

  • Kevin

    Aha! Just as I thought, ABC’s doing the “weeknight fight”

    “Obama vs. Clinton, One on One”?????

    “The Thrilla in Manila” “Mano y Mano”

    Where’s the steel cage, pyrotechnics and bad music???

    • http://hyper-educated-uppity-woman.blogspot.com Uppity

      Or at least CHEESY music.

      • Kevin

        ROFL

  • Andrew Gepford

    Jamie Lee Curtis is a beast. Sorry. I just had to comment on the commercial break too…

    • http://hyper-educated-uppity-woman.blogspot.com Uppity

      Loved her in True Lies though.

  • Brad

    It looks to me like Charlie and George are ganging up on Obama. They don’t interrupt Clinton with combative follow up questions. There is a huge disproportion of hostile inquiry aimed at Obama.

    • Andrew Gepford

      I agree. But what can you do… he’s likely going to be the winning candidate so he should come under more scrutiny i feel

      • Talktruth

        He will likely be dead in the water really, really soon. Figuratively, of course.

    • http://Supergram.blogspot.com Melissa

      Make up for all the months of Hillary bashing Messiah promoting? i do not feel sorry for his lying ass and I wish they ahd done it all along and we would not be in this position she would have had it locked up long ago

    • Eurogirl70

      Well Brad

      After all of these various debates, this is the first debate where it has been Obama on the hot seat. Usually it has been Clinton in that hot seat. If your guy can’t take it now, how is he going to get seasoned for a GE matchup that will make everything that has come so far look like the cake walk it has been.

    • http://hyper-educated-uppity-woman.blogspot.com Uppity

      Well now he knows how it feels.

      He has to be vetted. If he can’t take it now when will he be able to take it. his ride in the press has been easy. Seasoning. Seasoning. They are basting him for the roast.

    • JoeySky

      Well, looking at all the craps Hillary got at every dabates in this primary, it’s time that BO gets one.

  • Talktruth

    I’ll also have a nice big slice of that seven-layer chocolate cake :-9.

  • Mel

    notice Clinton is letting Obama run his mouth, gathering time on her side, she better slam him down with her extra time, Obama is not fairing well, wonder why, is it because now he has more answering to do on attacks tomorrow with Ayers?

    This is not going to be an easy out in PA when Obama has threatened to JUST raise Middle class taxes, Good answer Clinton on being progressive to find other ways!

    Experience vs empty suit!

  • Talktruth

    Brad said: It looks to me like Charlie and George are ganging up on Obama. They don’t interrupt Clinton with combative follow up questions. There is a huge disproportion of hostile inquiry aimed at Obama.

    Yay!

    • barbh

      About time someone gave him 1/4 the crap they give her..!! I’m with you YEAH!!!

  • Kevin

    Oooooh… Charlie hit’s ‘em both w/ the sucker punch on Guns. Gotta feed the GOP base

    • http://hyper-educated-uppity-woman.blogspot.com Uppity

      Well if the GOP thinks guns should never be registered, they are playing with themselves in the dark.

      • Kevin

        Charlie was hoping for one of them to say they’d ban guns, etc.

  • Andrew Gepford

    HERE WE GO

    Question= Gun control

    Answer= let’s be evasive and focus on the VT shooting, crime, whatever, without really saying anything substantive.

    • Kevin

      I think they’ll both tackle it head on and answer the challenge in the question.

      • Linda

        Obama has never tackled anything head-on yet; why on earth do you believe he will start tonight? He always wants Hillary to answer first then say “me, too.”

    • http://hyper-educated-uppity-woman.blogspot.com Uppity

      Andrew what could they say? You have a right to own a gun. That’s a given. You don’t have the right to own one if you are a psychopath. And it’s kind of nice that we know which gun is yours if something happens. It’s all common sense. Of COURSE they should be licensed.

  • Mrjonessr

    This must be a Hillary site, I love them both and all this Obama bashing here is distasteful,ignorant and transparent, Shame on you, Our enemy is the other party not each other.

    • beebop

      buh bye

    • AF catfish

      OK will consider that thank you.

    • Eurogirl70

      Kumbaya My lord Kumbaya
      Obama’s gonna lose, Kumbaya
      He’s no Democrat, Kumbaya
      He’s a Republican plant, Kumbaya!!

      • Kevin

        But the democrats and republicans are opposite sides on the same flawed coin.

        Always have been actually…

    • Amanda

      Really? Look at DK or Huff to see what bashing really is. It does not even come close to what is said here.

    • http://hyper-educated-uppity-woman.blogspot.com Uppity

      We can show you to Daily Kos if you would like, where they are happily bashing Hillary. Guess you picked the wrong door.

    • barbh

      Yes, go to D***S and see how they treat Hillary and her supporters, I could copy some vile comments about her right now from over there, but I choose not to go there anymore. Are you posting comments like this at DK*S when they call Hillary and her supporters every sexist name in the book… Many here are refugees from other sites, we are just a tad “BITTER”!!!! and clinging to our NQ!!

    • Talktruth

      If BO didn’t have these massive amount of faults, we wouldn’t be bashing him. He is a walking political time-bomb.

    • JoeySky

      Too late for that already. Obama supporters declared us as their enemy since Jan.

      • simon, too

        Silly them, we’ve been Obama’s enemy since he accepted his first bribe, and started dabbling with terrorists.

    • Linda

      You need to read YOUR comment if you want to see something rude and inappropriate. Please do not project your personality flaws on to us.

  • Andrew Gepford

    BUT I NEED AN ASSAULT RIFLE TO GO HUNTING!

    They’re fun! They make big boom!!! YAY! YAY! *clapping hands*

    • http://hyper-educated-uppity-woman.blogspot.com Uppity

      I’m dying here! Use an assault rifle to hunt deer and call it sport. It would be sport if we equipped the deer with assault rifles and taught them how to use them. Now THAT’s sport.

  • http://www.sugarnspice.typepad.com Sugar

    What beebop said. lol

  • Andrew Gepford

    aaa that was sarcasm…

  • http://www.sugarnspice.typepad.com Sugar

    BHO, busted again!!1 lol Oh gosh, I’m loving this!

  • Talktruth

    Go, Charlie! OMG, now he’s lying about the questionnaire!

  • Brad

    Charlie just did it again on the gun issue. How biased is this “debate” forum?

    • TeresaINPa

      Shorter Brad:

      They aren’t kissing Barry’s ass.

  • http://v4hill.com v4hill

    Get the friggin’ questionnaire!!!!!!!!!!! I want to see it now!

  • Linda

    Oops, he just said “my handwriting was not on that particular questionaire.” Can anybody find out if that is true. Please let it be a blatent LIE!

    • beebop

      his handwriting was on the questionnaire

    • barbh

      HEard a big debate about that, he claims that it was a staffer that filled it out, but it was his handwriting on it.

  • Justin Kelly

    Wasn’t BO’s handwriting on the questionnaire which he just denied?

    • Talktruth

      Yes. But he said he was just “making notes.”

    • beebop

      He denied filling it out, said an aide did it but his handwriting WAS on it.

    • http://Supergram.blogspot.com Melissa

      Yessireebob! It sure was! The handwriting on the questionairre- old news he already lied about it. I never saw it but I wrote comments on it but my staffer filled it out. I am sure our very own investigative journalists here Flea or Susan can provide links

  • Andrew Gepford

    … TO BARE ARMS? WHO GETS TO DEICTATE THAT DEFINITION? YOU HILLARY? BULLLLLLLLL S&#$!

  • http://www.sugarnspice.typepad.com Sugar

    I get so sick and tired about the “Southside of Chicago”. There is a neighborhood in “Southeast” D.C. that I would dare step a toe in after midnight, but there is also a gorgeous section of “Southeast” D.C. that is nothing like the notoriously crime-ridden area. BHO needs to drop the “Southside of Chicago” bit. It’s getting really worn.

  • Andrew Gepford

    dictate*

  • Fleaflicker

    Back for more fun…

    Gibson: One year anniversary of Virginia Tech. Let’s talk about guns. Annie Oakley… I mean excuse me Hillary, what do yo think about this stupid question.

    Hillary: I will be a good partner to cities like Philadelphia. I will reinstate the assault weapons ban. I will reinstate the COPS programs. Cities will get access to federal info that they need. I respect lawful gun ownership and they want to keep guns out of the hands of criminals and idiots like Obama and his wife Michelle. Especially Michelle.

    Obama, do you agree?

    Obama: I must confess i don’t know what the hell you are talking about. How dare you ask me a question I haven’t memorized the answer to.

    Gibson: Do you still favor a ban on handguns? Your signature was on a document that said you did?

    Obama: Charlie, how dare you bring that crap up. I am Obama and if i say that my signature wasn’t on something it wasn’t. If you don’t believe me ask my cult. Whoops, I mean my followers.

    • Talktruth

      they want to keep guns out of the hands of criminals and idiots like Obama and his wife Michelle. Especially Michelle

      TOO FUNNY!!

  • http://www.sugarnspice.typepad.com Sugar

    Because I sincerely doubt that he lives right around the corner from the old Cabrini Green area. “Southside of Chicago”. SHUT UP!

  • Andrew Gepford

    If the police aren’t doing they’re job well, the answer is not to form family militia units. It probably should revolve around making them better defenders of the peace

  • yttik

    I’m LMAO. The dailyobama’s are throwing a fit and firing off emails to Olbermann and complaining to ABC about the unfair bias against Obama. Dammit, where’s his pillow?! You know Obama always get a pillow for the debates! This is abuse I tell ya! how dare you ask him hard questions! Wahhhhh….

    Don’t expect any sympathy from me you arseholes. It’s not as much fun when the shoe is on the other foot, is it?

    • http://hyper-educated-uppity-woman.blogspot.com Uppity

      Hahahah. Karma’s a bitch.

    • http://www.sugarnspice.typepad.com Sugar

      That’s right, yttik! The thing is, they aren’t even “unfairly” hammering him. He’s lying his ass off and they are calling him on it. Hardly the same as the grilling Hill has routinely experienced.

      • http://Supergram.blogspot.com Melissa

        What you said! The toast is burning!

    • JoeySky

      we need to send email to ABC. They are doing a good job.

      • http://Supergram.blogspot.com Melissa

        As sson as we get done watching the toast burn- burnt toast- more food for my chickens

  • Andrew Gepford

    If the police aren’t doing their job well, the answer is not to form family militia units. It probably should revolve around making them better defenders of the peace

  • http://hyper-educated-uppity-woman.blogspot.com Uppity

    A shot of his head from the rear is not flattering. He should never let this happen. The ears.

    • http://www.sugarnspice.typepad.com Sugar

      ROTFLMBAO!!!!!!!!!!

  • Fleaflicker

    George S: Should poor white kids get affirmative action because your kids are so above average?

    Obama: Don’t you dare compare any white person to my children. You racist hack.

    • http://hyper-educated-uppity-woman.blogspot.com Uppity

      Hahahaha.

  • Linda

    Guns are a big issue here in Texas. I think Hillary just walked the tightrope brilliantly. She said she supports what works in New York. In New York, there are different rules in different places. I for for a lot more gun control than anybody else in Texas but gun control is the only reason that some of my relatives use for saying they will not support Hillary. I hope he is watching this tonight.

  • Mrjonessr

    “Author: TeresaINPa
    Comment:
    I disagree, his character is an issue and most of the time he gets top spin with no one to question     him.” NOONE TO QUESTION HIM!! ARE U INSANE, THESE PEOPLE IN THE MEDIA ARE JUST LIKE YOU, SPEND ALL DAY BASHING OBAMA ON EVERY RIDICULOUS SUBJECT. LOOK I KNOW THAT IT HURTS SOME OF YOU DOWN DEEP,BUT THIS MAN IS THE BEST PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE IN MY 42 YEAR LIFETIME. IF YOU CLOSE YOUR EYES AND LISTEN YOU’LL SEE THAT.

    • http://www.sugarnspice.typepad.com Sugar

      And, if you’d open your eyes, you would see that he’s not some magical genie in a bottle.

    • http://hyper-educated-uppity-woman.blogspot.com Uppity

      Then tune into CNN and MSNBC. They want Obama so baaaaaad. Cripes they do everything for him but cook him dinner. Either you do not watch newschannels or you are just pulling our chain. ANd please lose the caps. It looks like you are hysterically screaming and waving your arms.

    • simon, too

      you really don’t.know.what.is.happening., do you Mr jones?

      I swear, we’re doing “highway 61 revisted,” with this crew of idiots, next up, why, highway 61…

    • http://Supergram.blogspot.com Melissa

      STEP AWAY FROM THE KOOL_AID!

    • TeresaINPa

      take a vallium

  • eva

    It’s a shame how we bicker and question petty things and delve into irrelevant issues when we are trying to decide how our candidates feel about the real issues we are dealing with in this country.

  • Andrew Gepford

    Again… why not make secondary education free? If that was so, HOW could ANYONE complain about paying more in taxes… not to get all socialist on you

  • http://thehorizontalworld.blogspot.com/ Mary Jo Kopechne

    I’ve got the audio. Hillary is so good. Obama is a stuttering fool.

  • http://v4hill.com v4hill
  • Fleaflicker

    Hillary: Let’s affirmatively invest in our young people!

  • Andrew Gepford

    Let’s hook Hillary up to a pump… she has enough gas in her to end the crisis..

    • http://hyper-educated-uppity-woman.blogspot.com Uppity

      Yeah well from behind, Barry’s ears make him look like a taxi with the doors open.

      So there.

      • Kevin

        Okay… that little exchange was funny.

  • Talktruth

    Don’t you mean, bitter, BO?

  • ChrisXP

    WOW!! Watching the live stats, and Hillary is blowing it off the chart at certain places! More she’s forceful, higher the chart!

    Obama is mostly 70 or below.

    • Kevin

      This is her best speech performance yet. It couldn’t have been otherwise – should’ve been this way from the start, but I guess she got caught at the gate.

  • Andrew Gepford

    THANK YOU OB! Let’s stop making cars that get 23 feet to the gallon.

    • http://hyper-educated-uppity-woman.blogspot.com Uppity

      No he didn’t say that did he? Please say No.

  • Fleaflicker

    Obama is really pissed. He looked down his nose at Charlie Gibson. You could see the hate and contempt in his eyes. The dude ain’t happy being questioned.

    • http://hyper-educated-uppity-woman.blogspot.com Uppity

      Gibson is toast. The Chicago boys will be paying him a visit.

      • JoeySky

        Gibson will receive death threats soon.

  • Talktruth

    Use GWB as an example of what NOT to do.

  • http://www.sugarnspice.typepad.com Sugar

    Alright, when are they goin to make good on that promise to balance up the time? The rest of this should be hers after BHO with those vague ramblings.

  • http://thehorizontalworld.blogspot.com/ Mary Jo Kopechne

    She sounds presidential. He sounds like an upstart. He does not know shit from shinola about policy, and it’s showing. He’s like a graduate student who’s read some books. She’s a pro. And now he’s deferring to her. He is such a poser. What kind of mindless idiots support him.

    • http://deleted vincent

      She does indeed……….pro she is …. fake and dangerous he is….

  • Eurogirl70

    Can I just say that there is nothing more sexy than a really smart woman, who can offer real ideas and pull information from various sources, to reach a workable, succint plan.

    • http://hyper-educated-uppity-woman.blogspot.com Uppity

      That’s what Jack Nicholson said.

      God, he’s gross though.

  • http://www.sugarnspice.typepad.com Sugar

    Here he goes putting his foot in his mouth praising republicans. Idiot.

    • ChrisXP

      Here he goes putting his foot in his mouth praising republicans. Idiot.

      Actually, that’s good. The country is only going to heal when the partisanship dies on the vine.

      We’re Americans first, not Democrat or Republican, afterall.

      • http://www.sugarnspice.typepad.com Sugar

        Yeah well, wake me when that fantasy occurs. I don’t see it ever happening. It should happen, but I don’t see it happening anytime soon. Bush vetoed a health care plan for children for crying out loud! lol

        • http://hyper-educated-uppity-woman.blogspot.com Uppity

          Bush is not a human.

          • ChrisXP

            Bush is not a human.

            And that translates to a failed GE.

            Being a victim forever blaming everyone and everything doesn’t get anything done.

            Don’t know about you, but stagnation doesn’t help anyone but weeds.

        • ChrisXP

          Yeah well, wake me when that fantasy occurs. I don’t see it ever happening.

          It happens when people believe it’s possible, not throw up their hands and say otherwise.

          I’m a conservative, darn right v-e-r-y conservative on some issues, but I’m right here. When you truly believe that your country is more important, you no longer see labels, you see what’s good for the USA.

          Have to have faith sometime, not wait for prince charming to ride in and save the day. It starts with everyone saying, “yeah, we need to think what’s best for everyone.”

    • barbh

      He doesn’t just put his foot in his mouth he puts it there and then chomps down on it! I just don’t get it, does he think he is already in the GE!!!!???

      • http://www.sugarnspice.typepad.com Sugar

        “He doesn’t just put his foot in his mouth he puts it there and then chomps down on it!”

        HAHAHA!

      • http://Supergram.blogspot.com Melissa

        ever hear about what an animal does when it is caught in a trap???? He’s about to chew his leg off

  • Fleaflicker

    Obama: Republicans have good ideas!

    What a putz!

    • simon, too

      Whne it comes to graft, Bama, there is no one better than a republican.

      And you should know.

      Alfred E Neumann of the IL combine…

    • Talktruth

      Cheap bid for McCranky votes.

  • http://texasdarlin.wordpress.com TexasDarlin

    He is complimenting Bush Sr. and praising the Republicans again!

    • Fleaflicker

      What a frickin idiot. I wonder if he is going to pitch his Democrat for a Day spiel at the end.

    • http://hyper-educated-uppity-woman.blogspot.com Uppity

      Well he thinks republicans are going to vote for him.

  • Andrew Gepford

    JESUS… WHERE is Al Gore when you f-ing NEED him?

  • Amanda

    Hmmmmm,BO will ask GB Senior for advice, but not Bill Clinton. He was elected for two terms you know, that’s not good. I ask again, was Obama in Indonesia or another planet during Clinton’s years?

    • Talktruth

      His head was not where it should have been, let’s just say.

  • Andrew Gepford

    im starting to get really dissatisfied with both of them, honestly. My heart aches for John Edwards…

  • Mrjonessr

    AFTER READING THIS BLOG I LEARNED ONE THING, WE STILL HAVE A LONG WAY TO GO. THE ATTACKS ON OBAMA HERE HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH ISSUES, THEY ARE PERSONAL, ONE PERSON CALLED THE MAN AN UGLY LIER,WOW GUESS THAT STUFF GOES DEEPER THAN I THOUGHT.

    • Amanda

      Don’t scream please. Have a drink, relax, it’s not the end of the world. Also, free speech, you don’t have to read or write in this blog.

    • beebop

      Don’t take it personal …. we just heard that we’re bitter. It takes some getting used to, know what I mean ….

    • simon, too

      Highway 61 is in MINNESOTA too, just like your head, apparently.

      Bitch to have to troll from there, though, huh?

    • stodghie

      and what would you know about deep? your candidate is the most shallow politican i have ever seen.

  • Beanie

    I love you guys. I have found my people :)

    • TeresaINPa

      welcome home.

  • http://v4hill.com v4hill

    Andrew, Maybe it’s something you ate?

  • Talktruth

    ASK BO WHY HE WON’T LET FLORIDA AND MICHIGAN BE COUNTED!!

    • beebop

      Because Hillary will kick his ass …. we know the answer to that one … although, come to think of it, hearing him say it would clear it up ….

    • http://hyper-educated-uppity-woman.blogspot.com Uppity

      According to DailyKos, Hillary stopped that and we are delusional.

  • coney

    oh my goodness! Hillary is so full of shit! Obama for 08!

    • http://hyper-educated-uppity-woman.blogspot.com Uppity

      A little knowledge is a dangerous thing. And Barack Obama has less of it than any presidential or Vice Presidential candidate I have seen in my not so short life, up to and including Dan Quayle, resident VP moron. Obama has nothing in his head but what’s been given to him in written speeches. Impromptu, he is a complete loser, and that is a sign of a mind with no detail whatsoever.

      • Mrjonessr

        Less knowledge LOLOL I have 2 words that will prove you are full of it. GEORGE BUSH.

    • John

      That’s all you’ve got? And the Obama campaign pays you to come into blogs and post mindless crap like that? They should demand their money back.

      Total Fail. Just like your candidate.

      • simon, too

        Um, he’s not one of the paid trolls.

        • simon, too

          He does it for love of Obama.

          And drool.

          uh oh…

  • Andrew Gepford

    If Hillary can do as bang up a job with everything else as she did with health care during the Clinton years… i look forward to her inauguration (i mean, cough, Armageddon) day

    • http://hyper-educated-uppity-woman.blogspot.com Uppity

      Two Words: Newt Gingrich. You try implementing the best damned universal health plan ever devised with him there. Good luck with that.

  • coney

    oh my goodness! Hillary is so full of shit! She is fake nothing she says comes out “natural” Obama for 08!

    • Talktruth

      Are you making the rounds, Princess?

    • Amanda

      if by natural you mean: humm, ummm, umffff, than you right, she is not naturally mumbling through the answers.

    • simon, too

      Just like ice cream,soft and easy to crack.

      Idiot.

      • http://hyper-educated-uppity-woman.blogspot.com Uppity

        See? You hear those morons hooting? McGovern.

    • beebop

      wouldn’t you be happier where they chant “Hope” and “Change” and “Unit” in unison ….

      • http://hyper-educated-uppity-woman.blogspot.com Uppity

        Ooooooooooooooooooo Baaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhh Maaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!!! Woot! Woot!

    • Eurogirl70

      coney…..

      Obama says nothing specific. You know I had a dream too, that people with online names like coney, would be taken to the nearest amusement park, duct-taped into a roller coaster after having been force feed 12 coney dogs, and set to automatic. Piped into a pair of headphones would be the soothing ruminations of Arianna Huffington and Maureen Dowd!!

      Enjoy troll!

      • http://hyper-educated-uppity-woman.blogspot.com Uppity

        I bet the Xanax bottles are cracking open like crazy over at HuffPo.

    • stodghie

      oh the trolls are so pathetic. geez there was a time it sorta fun and some spirited debates. now we get really bad commercials.

  • http://www.sugarnspice.typepad.com Sugar

    Yeah, TalkTruth, they didn’t even mention Florida and Michigan. :(

    • Talktruth

      They didn’t dare, Sug.

      • Talktruth

        BTW, I was sorry to hear about the serious trouble you had the other night. I must say you handled it very well, considering the circumstances. What a nightmare!

  • Mrjonessr

    IS THIS A kkk SIGHT OR JUST A MAN-HATEING SITE LOL

    • http://hyper-educated-uppity-woman.blogspot.com Uppity

      Oh look! The race card. That’s new.

      • beebop

        A double header actually … girl hater, too …. a perfect obama supporter. A twofer!

  • http://thehorizontalworld.blogspot.com/ Mary Jo Kopechne

    I am so proud of Hillary. She is so classy, so brilliant, and has such integrity. He is empty platitudes.
    The Obama supporters must be humiliated that Hillary cleaned his clock tonight. He is an empty sociopath. Ego, empty suit, lying bastard.

    Go HRC!

  • coney

    How can she say she’s for the lil people when she accepts so much money from all the lobbyist?!

    • jimbob

      do you really think that the lobbyist will go away because a few pols want then to, the lobbyist are entitled to represent their best interest, their constituents. this new 4 year wonder can’t be the messiah you people think he is.

      • http://hyper-educated-uppity-woman.blogspot.com Uppity

        They all take lobby money. The only difference is Obama lies about it.

    • http://hyper-educated-uppity-woman.blogspot.com Uppity

      Would you like a list of the lobbyists who bundle for Obama, the lying sack of shit? Go to the archives here and look up the post entitled LOBBYISTS OBAMA DOESN”T TAKE MONEY FROM. There are links with each name which will tell you all the money these REGISTERED lobbyists bundled for him. You dream president is a fraud.

      • http://hyper-educated-uppity-woman.blogspot.com Uppity

        Oh and there’s one there on all the Bundled Big OIL money he took too.

        And by the way, five of his top ten contributors are sub prime lenders. you be sure to let him kiss you if you wear his button now, y’hear?

    • JoeySky

      Go back and ask your hero about his lobbyists money.

  • Talktruth

    Sorry, friends, I talked to a troll. That’s a donation tomorrow!

    • Eurogirl70

      Remember Talktruth that every time a cognizant human being trades barbs with an ignorant ass, another angel gets its’ wings. You are truly doing the lords work.

      • http://hyper-educated-uppity-woman.blogspot.com Uppity

        OMG you guys are cracking me up!

      • Talktruth

        Pure genius! That’s a double donation ($20.88)!

  • http://v4hill.com v4hill

    Well, that settled everything.

  • http://www.sugarnspice.typepad.com Sugar

    What he left out is that the old woman also whispered, “But, I’m not voting for yo lyin’ ass.”

    • http://hyper-educated-uppity-woman.blogspot.com Uppity

      That’s it! I can’t take it anymore!

  • Andrew Gepford

    If you have stupid, dishonest, ignorant citizens they will elect stupid, dishonest, ignorant leaders. Maybe she will win…

  • SensibleWoman

    Ha-HA! They DID restrain them! Good for ABC! I do appreciate that from them.

    • http://hyper-educated-uppity-woman.blogspot.com Uppity

      You can’t restrain these children. Makes them pee their pants.

  • Fleaflicker

    The Superdelegate question

    Hillary: We need a fighter. I have a plan to take back America and give the middle class back their money. I can’t do this alone. i need people to help me. It is absolutely what we must do. I am ready to be CIC. I have LOTZ of generals that are on my side. We will do this all together. I need the people of Pennsylvania to help me. You know where I stand and that I will fight for you.

    Obama: I am the Messiah and you rubes had better elect me or I am going to send my terrorist and gangsta friends to pay you a visit. I spoke to a 70 year old woman and she is going to vote for me. Of course I had to threaten to break her legs first. We need to form a new political coalition in this country. A coalition that lets racists and homophobes and terrorists feel at home in the Democratic party. A coalition my wife will be proud of.

    • scott

      If you are looking for laughs check out the comments on how unfair this debate was to the messiah over at ABC.com

      • Talktruth

        It’s fantastic over there, Scott. Thanks for the heads up!

    • http://thehorizontalworld.blogspot.com/ Mary Jo Kopechne

      Great live reporting Flea-especially this last post. “I am the Messiah” LOL

      Hillary is the real deal.

      Obama is a sophist.

    • Talktruth

      A coalition my wife will be proud of.

      Michelle jokes slay me!

  • Kevin

    And the winner is… Hillary.
    Performance and Technical points.

    • http://hyper-educated-uppity-woman.blogspot.com Uppity

      Thank you for that Kevin. I still hold out hope for you.

      • Kevin

        Nothing to thank me for… a fight, is a fight. Ya gotta call ‘em like ya see ‘em.

        I’m still worried more about the overall state of the party.

        Which really funny since both, actually the current system – really sucks.

        Hopefully we’ll all be able to do somethin’ about that.

  • http://www.sugarnspice.typepad.com Sugar

    Charlie Gibson did a remarkable job tonight! Brava Charlie! Brava!!! Hillary was able to show herself for the true Commander in Chief that she is. BHO looked really silly.

    • http://www.food4humanity.org HoosierHoops

      I agree Sugar

  • Andrew Gepford

    I wish Mike Gravel could walk onto that stage and throw his epic rock atop that woman’s head! I am dumbfounded by some of the things she said tonight.

    • Fleaflicker

      Hey Andrew… get a grip dude. No threatening of violence allowed here.

    • simon, too

      I keep seeing a small carousel, speaking of Obama,and cony, with about five of those painted ponies that go up and down, but ultimately, nowhere.

      His head is spinning round and round, you are nowhere.

    • stodghie

      andrew, you need to look up the words respect and smart in the dictionary. become familar with them. it is clear you don’t know the meaning.

  • ChrisXP

    Analysis?

    Appears Hillary was getting more positive responses from the audience of undecideds.

    Will that translate to votes on the 22nd?

  • http://texasdarlin.wordpress.com TexasDarlin

    Thanks to ABC for conducting the first fair debate.

  • http://Supergram.blogspot.com Melissa

    OK quick off to the e-mail programs and thank Gibson and ABC the first time they didn’t trash Hillary!

  • Andrew Gepford

    Simply put, above all else, she is not liked as much. What it comes down to is the ability for a candidate to control the party and pass progressive legislation. OB can and will do this better then she ever could

    • beebop

      You did check out the oversampling in the polls? You understand how skewing data works, right? Somehow I have a really good hunch that the voters in Pennsylvania and hey! Michigan and Florida are sufficiently convinced that OBAMA is unelectable.

  • http://www.sugarnspice.typepad.com Sugar

    Wow! Was George S. standing just now?

  • Andrew Gepford

    Evidence of her lack of… everything

    goto

    http://www.Hillaryclinton.com

    its all laid out there like a terrible train wreck.

    • http://hyper-educated-uppity-woman.blogspot.com Uppity

      Well it WAS a train wreck.

    • Mel

      Well if you want to see a copy of it then go to http://www.barackobama.com and see all of Clintons policies, soon to be updated to include Hillary’s things added tonight!

    • stodghie

      andrew, STFU, you pathetic troll.

  • Mitch Bartley

    Wow. After reading through this against my better judgement, I’m even more saddened by the bitterness that pervades our country. I’d go so far as to say that it appears it’s not the “masses” that are bitter, just the Hillary supporters! :) My God people, that “debate” was useless to those of us that are actually interested in the issues.

    I’ve always voted Republican, but am not satisfied with the Republican candidate this year at all, and am looking for a politician to believe in (which may actually be impossible, I realize).

    I really question how many Americans are actually more concerned about the issues our country faces than their personal agendas. Reading comments from both sides on this blog, but particularly comments from Hillary supporters is highly disheartening.

    • ChrisXP

      I really question how many Americans are actually more concerned about the issues our country faces than their personal agendas. Reading comments from both sides on this blog, but particularly comments from Hillary supporters is highly disheartening.

      Did you stop reading after the first sentence of this article?

      Yeah, there’s drive-bys and partisan hack talk here, but also more than that. Claiming there’s nothing else shows you didn’t read what you claimed, or just another troll.

      I love roasting trolls under their own bridges. :)

      • Mitch Bartley

        The vast majority of the “comments” I see are by folks taking shots at one candidate or the other, or bickering about some BS the media has blown up and not about things that really matter much. Such is life in following American politics I suppose.

        Troll? Hardly, just a sorely disappointed American when viewing a sampling of what others had to say while watching this debate. Unfortunately, none of that crap will fix what ails our country.

        • beebop

          sniff … maybe you’ll like the comments better at HuffingtonPost or DKos? Why don’t you check them out! Move along now ….

        • ChrisXP

          Troll? Hardly, just a sorely disappointed American when viewing a sampling of what others had to say while watching this debate. Unfortunately, none of that crap will fix what ails our country.

          Well, adding a slice of cheese to go with that whine isn’t anymore constructive.

          Any and everything you want in life you have to work and strive for, it’s not going land in your lap with a box of chocolates.

          Want a discussion, discuss. Otherwise, you’re just adding to the noise level.

          These Sennheisers will eliminate the static; distortion and peak levels, though! :)

      • Talktruth

        There must be a template at Obama Central with this post. I see it a lot.

        • Talktruth

          (continued) I guess it’s a way to get people to stop talking truth (ahem)about Gutter Ball.

        • http://hyper-educated-uppity-woman.blogspot.com Uppity

          Bartley. Isn’t that the guy in Utah with the 14 wives?

        • http://hyper-educated-uppity-woman.blogspot.com Uppity

          Yeah they all picked the post up at the online meeting.

    • simon, too

      You read?

      here I thought you were a Bill Kristol like troll, with his head up his ass, just a stupid guy.

      You make no argument, you accuse, it’s a dead giveaway, silly, troll 101 from the no talent wannabes…

      It’s not like your capable of varying your thought, or recognizing a troll, how you’re being trolled, nothing more complex than logic 101.

      I mean, Obama’s people are bad, the real ones, the republican trolls stink from a mile away.

      Don’t forget which group got into this mess,TROLLED into this mess, and they’re not getting out, not with “talent” like you.

      • Mitch Bartley

        Another Hillary supporter, I presume? Only interested in attacks and not discussion?

        • Dora Ratquila

          One can’t have a genuine discussion if the other side is already talking about the conclusion and how right they are! Stop trying to preach to the converted and try to explain your candidate’s “Bitter” speech to the voters of America’s small towns. And while you’re at it, impress us with how your candidate made a positive difference in the lives of his “embittered” constituents in Chicago and the rest of the state.

          • Mitch Bartley

            I honestly do not have a candidate. None of the politicians running our country represent me well at all. I AM a small-town American, but I was not at all offended by Barack’s comments.

            I have no candidate I support more than the other, and at this point have no idea who to vote for at this point. I just want to hear where the candidates stand on issues that actually matter, and get passed all the political crap that is being thrown about.

            I made an observation here this evening that there appear to be a LOT of bitter people out there, and I don’t believe that to be the solution.

            • simon, too

              Bill Kristol like troll, there, Mitch.

              I keep seeing references to “the gas man.”

              Who knew they meant flatulence?

              Now rip one for us Billy, and big!

        • stodghie

          yeah, right, sure! next year, your guy will still be junior senator who doesn’t do anything for his state or country.

        • ChrisXP

          Another Hillary supporter, I presume? Only interested in attacks and not discussion?

          When you don’t even read what you’re criticizing, how can you even discuss anything?

          It is a two way exchange, not a lecture.

          Logic 101, dear.

    • http://hyper-educated-uppity-woman.blogspot.com Uppity

      Damn right we are. Would you like me to post how many times an Obama supporter called me a c*nt? I wouldn’t vote for him if you put a gun in my mouth. So run along.

  • http://thehorizontalworld.blogspot.com/ Mary Jo Kopechne

    You little Obamabots, suffering from CDS, should go take your medicine and go to bed. I’m sure the defeat of His Holiness has taken its toll on your mental health.

    Hillary is awesome. She won. She’s the best candidate for president. thanks no quarter for hosting this event.

    • http://hyper-educated-uppity-woman.blogspot.com Uppity

      I envision them waving their arms and jumping up and down and screaming. Oh wait, that’s Caucus.

  • John

    Naturally ABC is doing a totally bogus online poll which Obama will win easily. ABC will tell us it’s an unscientific poll but will publish the results anyway under a big banner that reads “OBAMA WON DEBATE 3-1 SAY ONLINE VOTERS.”

    Because ABC is barely a news organization.

    • http://hyper-educated-uppity-woman.blogspot.com Uppity

      Yeah and all the Obamazoids will keep clearing their cookie caches and reboot and shit so they can each vote thirty times.

  • beebop

    If what happened to Mayor Nutter and Tavis as well as the nasty Obamabrat comments at ABC is any indication, ABC will soon find out what a great bunch of people find themselves attracted to Barack H. Obama …

  • http://hyper-educated-uppity-woman.blogspot.com Uppity

    OMG. I wonder if Olberman, Matthews and Cafferty’s heads blew off.

    • ChrisXP

      OMG. I wonder if Olberman, Matthews and Cafferty’s heads blew off.

      Didn’t you know their heads were replaced by nanobots? The heads came off a year ago.

    • beebop

      The big heads or the little heads? ;)

  • Mel

    Mitch Bartley, what debate were you listening too? Every policy issue was answered directly, properly, straight and with knock out punches by Hillary, and they flowed from her because she knows what she speaks of, Obama, well judge for yourself!

    As for the rest of it, if they were sitting down I am sure Hillary would have asked Obama if he was comfortable and needed a pillow!

    But the key of the night is one thing, Obama expects people to get past his:

    Statements of last week
    Associations with terrorists
    lies
    misrepresentations
    weak policies
    poor judgement

    because Obama wants to be POTUS as a nice guy!

    Sorry Clinton flew a few more things out tonight like the umbrella over Arib countries as protection, sort of made Obama look sad promoting his continual prior Clinton policies, so tomorrow will he adopt this one as well?

    Obama revealed only way to do what he wants is increase middle class taxes, Hillary again slammed that one down!

    But tomorrow is another day for the folks ar CNN, MSNBC, and the lot to start glowing Obama as the one who came up with the ideas and bash Clinton again!

    But tonight she proved who is better to sit in the Oval Office and who needs to learn a lot more of national politics on issues!

  • Dora Ratquila

    Troll alert, code red. Hillary supporters are bitter because we we dare to question the media-generated deification of the first-termer US Senator from Illinois who looks down on us, the working class? Given what our candidate continues to receive from these crazed Obamabots – on a daily basis – we should all automatically qualify for the Nobel peace prize (no offense to Al Gore)! I have neither forgiven nor forgotten those faux progressive misogynists from Team Obama who created the “Bros before Hos” tees.

    • http://hyper-educated-uppity-woman.blogspot.com Uppity

      They come here because they worry. They saw the debate.

      • ChrisXP

        They come here because they worry. They saw the debate.

        Yep. They just can’t stand that there’s a pro-Hillary site that isn’t just a “We Are the World” copycat. Good, bad, and the ugly is discussed and debated.

        I’m suprised that there isn’t more GOP drive-bys. They usually take bets on who can raid the longest on party line. Who knows, they may actually agree even (a miracle considering the choices?).

  • http://hyper-educated-uppity-woman.blogspot.com Uppity

    He will be in the fetal postion again after PA.

  • Andrew Gepford

    yea keep laughing about “obamazoids” and their childish sheep-like following… its going to get him elected

    :)

    DEAL WITH IT!

    • http://hyper-educated-uppity-woman.blogspot.com Uppity

      Barack Obama will never be president. There are just too many Italians, Jews, Small town people, “typical white people”, gays and disinfanchised women in this country. And none of us will vote for him. There are millions of us. Live with it. And he can blame it all on his nasty, arrogant, shithead supporters. Just like McGovern. Only at least McGovern had some brains.

      • http://hyper-educated-uppity-woman.blogspot.com Uppity

        Oh and Catholics tend to shy away from people who attend nutcase churches. There are only 70 million of them.

      • Roscoe

        Jews and Italians won’t vote for a black man?

        I never really bought the “Obama haters are racist” argument…until just now.

        We’ve got two good candidates fighting for the nomination; one of them already won. Rally up, or stop calling yourself a Democrat.

    • http://thehorizontalworld.blogspot.com/ Mary Jo Kopechne

      Rub it Andrew. That will make it feel better.

    • stodghie

      that pathetic little man will never be president. i suggest you deal with that.

    • simon, too

      No, Andrew it won’t.

      And there will be fall out for those associated with him, I wouldn’t want to be in K&&’s shoes, I really wouldn’t.

      That whole crew, Geffen, Soros, et al have taken a tumble, and it will be subtle at first, but these divisions are real.

      Obama is connected to terrorists, and they’re supporting him for President.

      Period.

      Maybe a republican can get away with that, but not people who are supposed to be smart, and hip, so to speak…

  • Paul
  • http://hyper-educated-uppity-woman.blogspot.com Uppity

    I wonder what Roland Martin is doing, Sugar.

    • Mel

      He is going nuts trying to figure out how to spin the new revelations of Obama’s pattern of friends and how to blame it all on Hillary!

    • http://www.sugarnspice.typepad.com Sugar

      HAHA! Probably on the phone with Al Sharpton plotting their next move. lol

  • Andrew Gepford

    but i will say this. BOTH are FAR better options then McCain. We need to get comfortable with the idea of either one of them as our president. Otherwise the devious scheming of Republican politics will STEAL yet another election from the people.

    I don’t think Hillary is a terrible choice, but based on what they have presented and what I have gleaned from reading their websites I adamantly feel that Obama has more realistic and practical goals for his administration.

    • beebop

      If you are looking for anyone here to pipe up with “hear, hear, Obama,” don’t get your stop watch out ….

    • Mitch Bartley

      It would be very nice to get an actual “good” candidate at some point, wouldn’t it.

      • ChrisXP

        It would be very nice to get an actual “good” candidate at some point, wouldn’t it.

        Currently not possible. We have what we have, and have to make sure they don’t gum up a budding 232 year-old country in the process.

    • http://hyper-educated-uppity-woman.blogspot.com Uppity

      I will never vote for Obama, sorry.

    • http://hyper-educated-uppity-woman.blogspot.com Uppity

      Obama, as a typical Narcissist, is “confident” Hillary voters would fall in lockstep. he is delusional. That poll on the 30 percent is real. We hate him. And with good reason.

    • Mel

      No one will get elected telling the middle class they will get a tax increase under him/her.

      No one will get elected based on telling Capital gains taxes will increase as high as double.

      No one will get elected telling voters that they are electable based on having Democrats for a day to seek the nomination!

      No one will get elected by telling people to look past Ayers, Wright, SF statements, Auchi, Rezko, Alsammae, and a host of others!

      No one will get elected by talking well with monitors and terrible when speaking naturally which is what continually gets Obama into trouble, when he is unscripted, already had 7 yrs of that, need more years of a President who makes gaffs when unscripted continually?

    • stodghie

      hahaha, did you copy that off a talking point from obama central. don’t bother, you already showed your true colors.

  • Andrew Gepford

    rub what? WOW! She didn’t get her ass handed to her in ONE debate finally. You’ll need to rub it come convention day, i think…

    • http://hyper-educated-uppity-woman.blogspot.com Uppity

      You have to be kidding. Even CNNObama channel admitted she won most of those debates with Tongue-Tie. There was one that was a wash.

  • http://thehorizontalworld.blogspot.com/ Mary Jo Kopechne

    I’m going to have such fun voting for McCain if Obama gets the nod. I’ve been a Dem for 40 years and I will get out on the street and pay people to vote for McCain to keep that dishonest little sexist pig Obama out of office. Of course it won’t take that, he’s already lost the GE and it hasn’t even happened yet.

    • Roscoe

      Good job declaring your intent to commit election fraud.

      Your candidate already lost; I can sympathize, mine lost months ago. But throwing a tantrum just because you didn’t get your way isn’t going to give Sen. Clinton the delegates she needs to catch up with Sen. Obama.

      Oh, and if you do get your wish and that philandering adulterer John McCain wins the general, have fun watching Roe v. Wade get overturned!

  • Andrew Gepford

    im only vindictive when ppl blog like children…

    and your perceptiveness astounds me, by the way, I must be an idiot not to vote for Clinton.

    • http://hyper-educated-uppity-woman.blogspot.com Uppity

      You don’t have to vote for her. I’m not voting for him. Ever.

      • Andrew Gepford

        i can’t vote with that much integrity. I’d do anything to prevent 4 more years of republican rule. Even if it meant voting for my least favorite candidate. It may not be entirely “right” but its a practical strategy

        • Mel

          That is why most here will vote for McCain if Obama wins the nom, McCain is more Democrat than Obama is any day!

          • ChrisXP

            That is why most here will vote for McCain if Obama wins the nom, McCain is more Democrat than Obama is any day!

            Read it and weep GOP!

        • http://hyper-educated-uppity-woman.blogspot.com Uppity

          I worry about his middle eastern ties. Big time.

          That and, as a woman, I see all the indicators of a very sexist man. I didn’t fight the good fight in my life to watch my younger sisters sent backwards. You of course don’t see the signs. You don’t need to. This man is a danger to women who wish to achieve in every way, shape and form.

          • Andrew Gepford

            Can a man facing a women in this kind of campaign be assertive without being labeled sexist? He’s criticizing her person, not her vag. I’m gay and would never support a sexist, arrogant male. He is not that…

  • Patrick Henry

    HILLARY THE WINNER BY K.O. over “B.O. Plenty..”

    The judges gave every round to Hillary…who went Toe to Toe with “Bamboozler Obama” ..who showed his inexperiece in tonights Fight…Bamboozle is just a lightwieght piece of hamburger who tryed to win the Heavywieght title…But Bamboozle proved that the you can’t win a championship if the Only thing heavy weight about You is Your swollen Head..Hillary had “Bamboozle ” on the ropes several times, and had him staggering around the ring..Hillary was not vicious or arrogant..She stayed on her game…fought her fight..and taught the new kid a lesson in Boxing..

    Winner and still CHAMP..Hillary Clinton..!!

  • Fmr Dem not voting Obama ( formerly known as ces)

    I think Hillary’s just glad his phone didn’t ring.

  • Talktruth

    Thanks for a great evening, guys (and NoQuarter). Should be fun to read the news tomorrow!

  • Talktruth

    Oh, and one more thing. All of the people who are complaining (not here, but on abcnews.com) about having George as one of the moderators, since he was a Clinton advisor, should just shut up. He is one of the first ones to jump on the Clintons, and I usually consider him a slimy little bastard. Just sayin’. (Preemptive strike for tomorrow’s complaints – thanks for listening. :-)

    • http://hyper-educated-uppity-woman.blogspot.com Uppity

      Who’s going to complain? Roland and Donna? They should talk. Two shills.

    • simon, too

      Jus sayin it was my impression he has to kiss some DNC ass, or ABC, ass just like the rest of them.

      Repeating the network Obama talking points this Sunday, I swear his face said ” I can’t believe I have to say this shit, again.”

      Maybe it was a projection…

  • http://hyper-educated-uppity-woman.blogspot.com Uppity

    Yeah I gotta go walk my dog. It’s a beautiful night. All the way around.

  • http://hyper-educated-uppity-woman.blogspot.com Uppity

    Typical of Time Warner, AOL’s headline:

    CLINTON SAYS OBAMA CAN BEAT MCCAIN.

    • Andrew Gepford

      i agree. that was unfair. that question was manipulative and stupid

  • jes

    I can’t believe that you guys got to watch the debate live.

    I’m here on the West Coast waiting to watch the delayed program at 8pm.

    From what I’m reading here it looks like Obama got his butt handed to him on a platter.

    • Andrew Gepford

      no he didn’t. Hillary just spent the last week on meth, staying up all night trying to craft the perfect rebuttal to his needless defense of mudslinging in the supposedly liberal media. She was destined to appear clever…

      • ChrisXP

        no he didn’t.

        That graph didn’t lie. Hillary reached 100% approval on some of her replies on undecideds. Obama didn’t break 70% that often.

        Obama doesn’t do well on debates, because he has to think on his feet — not on projecting an image or identity.

        • Andrew Gepford

          i’ll give you that one. She’s the better orator of the two. But i can’t place too much on those polls… i mean, most people aren’t informed, or at least objective, voters (can you deny this)

  • Roscoe

    Someone older and wiser than I will have to explain to me, when oil prices are shooting through the roof, the U.S. dollar is falling through the floor, and people are being literally tortured by American intelligence operatives abroad, why do we need a national referendum on flag lapel pins on live television.

    ABC should be ashamed of the ridiculous farce of a debate they hosted tonight.

    • ChrisXP

      why do we need a national referendum on flag lapel pins on live television.

      :blink:

      Is the Far-Left really this clueless?

      Answer: because the God and Guns crowd believe patriotism is an important subject. A candidate that purposely won’t wear the pin has an agenda that isn’t, well, American.

      The pin itself doesn’t matter, it’s the willingness not to wear one, and trying to think of 1001 ways why it’s not important.

      When it’s important to traditional Democrats who do love God, guns and country.

      • Andrew Gepford

        I commend Obama for being frank. We have differences. They are real. We should be adults, put them on the table and work through them, not ignore them as if they didn’t exist. Small town America IS more dominated by religion and guns moreso then say, urban areas or other places with a high information density. He screwed up the delivery but the sentiment is undeniably true on some levels

  • Andrew Gepford

    yay! the daily show is on!

    (waiting for some brilliant person to tell me i get my opinions from faux news shows. As Obama says, that’s a debate id LOVE to have)

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