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So Who Is This Bill Ayers??

So who is Bill Ayers, you ask? Nobody in particular if you are an Obama Fan. I mean Obama Rocks!!!! Yes We Can!! I mean all Ayers was is just the leader of the terrorist group the Weather Underground in the ’70s. Ohhhhhhhhhh pooh pooh, Obama fans say! That’s a longggggg time ago!!! Barack was 8 years old! Ayers is a nice guy now! He hasn’t blown anything up lately or anything! Stop bothering our Messiah! All Ayers did was bomb a few buildings, right? Let’s give him another chance! I mean so what if he helped Barack with his campaigns. Lay off the guy!

No.

I won’t lay off the guy. Bill Ayers and Bernardine Dohrn (now married to Ayers) were two of the most infamous domestic terrorists ever to be allowed to continue to walk the earth in America, thanks to a screw up in the surveillance. But that didn’t stop Ayers from bragging on what he did.

“i don’t regret setting bombs. I feel we didn’t do enough”
–Bill Ayers, September 11, 2001
No regrets for a love of explosives

Let’s talk about the little ole silly things Ayers and Dohrn did:

Weatherman, AKA Weather Underground Organization, was a violent U.S Radical Left group. They called themselves a revolutionary organization whose purpose was to carry out a series of attacks to overthrow of the Government of the United States.

The Weather Underground believed that militancy was far better than nonviolent protests. Their goal was to thwart the US Government using guerrilla warfare to achieve a revolution. They wrote a “Declaration of a State of War” against the United States government.

So what exactly DID Obama’s friend, campaign ally and Woods Foundation Colleague and his wife do?

For starters, the Weather Underground claimed credit for a bombing in Chicago, which they referred to as a “kickoff” of what they called their “Days Of Rage”. Their book. entitled, “Prairie Free”, strongly called for a unified Communist Party.

The Weather Underground blew up several Chicago Police cars at that time as well.

Next, these slime balls held a “war council” to firm up plans to remain underground and commit acts of sabotage against the US Government. They bombed several police cars in Berkley. Then they detonated a bomb at the San Francisco Police Department, during which one officer was killed and several others were injured. When 36 sticks of dynamite were discovered at a police precinct in Detroit, Bill Ayers just happened to be in town.

Later, several of the Underground’s own members died when they accidentally blew up their own bomb factory in New York. No loss. The bomb was intended to be used at an officer’s dance at Fort Dix. The bomb they were going to use was packed with nails for maximum damage. Fortunately those nails ended up stuck in their own miserable dead asses instead. Then another bomb factory was discovered in Chicago’s North side. Their weapons cache was also discovered in an apartment in Chicago’s South side. Then they blew up the National Guard building in DC.

Nice people huh? Would you go to their house?

While they continued to hide from indictments, Bernardine Dohrn issued a “Declaration of A State Of War”.

They claimed credit for the explosion of the San Francisco Hall of Justice, which never occurred. Later, an undetonated explosive device was discovered on the premises. Then the NY City Police headquarters was bombed. Then they bombed the Presidio Army Base in San Francisco in honor of the anniversary of the Cuban Revolution.

Think I am done talking about the Underground yet? Nope.

They then helped Timothy Leary escape from prison, and bombed the Marin County courthouse. After that they bombed the Queens Traffic Court building. They bombed the Harvard Center For International Affairs. A few of them fled to Cuba, where I hope to God they still reside if they aren’t dead.

Next, they bombed the US Capital. Another of their bomb factories was discovered in San Francisco. Then they bombed the office of California Prisons, The New York Department of Corrections in Albany, NY, and William Bundy’s office at MIT Research Center.

Nope. I’m not done yet. This stuff was all in a day’s work for Bernardine and Bill.

They bombed the Pentagon.

They bombed the 103 Police Precinct in New York.

Then they bombed the ITT buildings in both New York and Rome, Italy.

They bombed the Department of Health, Education and Welfare.

They bombed the Office of California of Attorney General.

They bombed Gulf’s Pittsburgh headquarters.

Then they bombed the Anaconda headquarters.

They bombed the State Department.

They bombed the Banco De Ponce in Puerto Rico as well as the Kennekot Corporation.

They also committed the Brinks Robbery in conjunction with the Black Liberation Army.

So, let me ask you: If you had any judgment at all, and if you billed yourself as a “Uniter,” would you go to Bill Ayers’ home and be on the Woods Fund with him for years? Would you take a political contribution from him and let him introduce you around? Would you mind if your sister brought Bill Ayers home to meet the family?

Think about it. I’ll wait.

While you are waiting, here’s a little video to introduce you to the fear and misery these bastards generated with Bill Ayers and Bernardine Dohrn at the helm. Then tell me that this is just another “boneheaded” affiliation that Obama made for himself–or that he just “didn’t know”. Or that because it is 40 years later, and on 911 of all days, Ayers said “I feel we didn’t do enough” that you would want to be caught standing next to him. Perhaps, since Ayers and Dohrn “didn’t do enough,” these two crazies would like to make up for lost time.

Hyper Educated Uppity Woman

  • workingclass artist

    Hmmmmm………Guess it’s not so cool to hang with RADICALS now ?…..

    • Fleaflicker

      Yeah… probably a bad idea. But I guess they don’t teach you that at Harvard. Maybe all that Ivy grew into their brains or something.

      • http://hyper-educated-uppity-woman.blogspot.com Uppity

        I don’t really blame Harvard. SOme people just aren’t wired right to begin with.

        • simon, too

          Hey Uppity, for fun, I’d like to see Ayers terrorists activities compared with Cheney’s, ie, outing Plame, the suspension of Habeus Corpus, GITMO, any murder of Plames informants murdered as a result of Cheney’s actions, Obama’s Addington, or Abrams, Scooter’s commuted sentence, people involved in both the Obama camps and the Cheney camp, oil’s connection to Cheney, or Trinity, say, lest we forget.

          Just as an academic exercise, to see what enemies of the US government have in common, other than national office, and a yearning to be president (lol).

          It happened, best to find out why, right, so it doesn’t happen again?

          No use sticking our heads in the sand.

    • http://citizenwells.wordpress.com/2008/04/16/obama-campaign-adolph-hitler-nazi-germany-obama-change-euphoria-blame-others-anti-semitic-attacks-bullying-economy/ W.O.R.M.S. in my dog’s shit

      Obama campaign, Adolph Hitler, Nazi germany, Obama change, euphoria, blame others, anti semitic, attacks, bullying, economy

      The parallels are clear and they are scary!

      What is the lesson to be learned?

      The German people blindly followed Hitler with his promises of change. Hitler and his cohorts were not scrutinized by enough people. Barack Obama is promising change and many are blindly following in a similar euphoric state. All candidates for the presidency must be questioned and carefully scrutinized.

      • Dawnelle

        yea and weren’t his most loyal inner group all YOUNG! REALLY YOUNG! And didn’t some of them turn on their parents even????

        chit

        fortunately my 26 yr old is far enough removed from college days that she is firmly in Hillary’s camp

        even had her picture taken reaching over to shake former Prez C’s hand recently!! :-)
        It made the local paper. Now her grand kids will have something really unique to be told and taught. I think it’s “very COOL”

        • simon, too

          Don’t forget to add Dick Cheney’s name to that list, I mean, as long as we’re comparing and contrasting left and right wing terrorism against America…

          LOL.

          • http://hyper-educated-uppity-woman.blogspot.com Uppity

            Yup he belongs there. And having the other side of this nutball coin is no better. No wonder Obama and Cheney are in each other’s geneology. Craziness is hereditary. So is Narcissism.

        • Fleaflicker

          Didn’t Ayers once promote the concept that people should kill their parents?

          Didn’t Dorhn once get all orgasmic about the Sharon Tate murders? Didn’t she think the Manson family murders were just the coolest thing?

          Obama sure hangs with some VERY despicable people.

          • CeeHussein

            McCain would use this. I’m glad he won’t get the chance.

            Hillary Clinton’s Radical Summer
            A Season of Love and Leftists

            By JOSH GERSTEIN
            Staff Reporter of the Sun
            November 26, 2007

            OAKLAND, Calif. — In a life marked largely by political caution, one entry on Senator Clinton’s résumé stands out: her clerkship in 1971 at one of America’s most radical law firms, Treuhaft, Walker and Burnstein.

            One partner at the firm, Doris Walker, was a Communist Party member at the time. Another partner, Robert Treuhaft, had left the party in 1958, several years after being called before the House Un-American Activities Committee and labeled as one of America’s most “dangerously subversive” lawyers. The Oakland-based firm was renowned for taking clients others rejected as too controversial, including Communists, draft resisters, and members of the African-American militant group known as the Black Panthers.

            To this day, Mrs. Clinton’s decision to work at the unabashedly left-wing firm is surprising, even shocking, to some of her former colleagues there and to those supporting her bid for the presidency. To the former first lady’s enemies and political opponents, her summer at the Treuhaft firm is yet another indication that radical ideology lurks beneath the patina of moderation she has adopted in public life.

            RELATED: The Clintons’ Berkeley Summer of Love | Hillary Clinton’s Left Hook

            Through more than a dozen interviews, a review of law firm files and correspondence at two university archives, and an examination of previously published descriptions of Mrs. Clinton’s California summer, The New York Sun has sought to compile a comprehensive account of the 23-year-old Yale law student’s work for the Treuhaft firm, how she got there, and how acquaintances she made that summer surfaced from time to time as her political career unfolded.

            http://www2.nysun.com/article/66933

            • Strawberrybitch

              And…your point? What exactly are you trying to say, spit it out already…typical obama supporter, you hint at scandel but no real substance. So she worked at a law firm that represents bad people, oh the horror. So your point being, only innocent people deserve fair and competant representation? What ever happened to innocent until proven guilty? Nevermind. You’re hopeless.

              • http://www.food4humanity.org HoosierHoops

                What ever happened to innocent until proven guilty?

                That concept checked into a hotel down in Gitmo.

              • Catriley

                Don’t waste your time on CeeCee Liar… By it’s reasoning, Hillary would be damned if she’d worked for a public defender instead.

                I mean.. “ooh scary” a radical LAW FIRM! That’s really laughable.

            • http://hyper-educated-uppity-woman.blogspot.com Uppity

              I don’t see the part where she bombed half the country.

            • workingclass artist

              In the spirit of internet confessions….I am Barack Obama, Cee Hussein is really my daughter ad this is why everything said is nonsensical….Honey, you need to go upstairs now and stay away from the computer….Sorry Folks! My daughter misspoke….Have a nice Day….Love Barry

            • deke

              So your point is they don’t deserve legal representation but bombing is okay because it represents a political statement.

            • Prem

              This relationship of Hillary’s does not compare to the 17-year relationship Obama has had with Ayers. Doesn’t this qualify her judgment to be better than Obama’s? She had one summer’s association and he has had more than a decade association?
              You cannot compare the two.

          • http://hyper-educated-uppity-woman.blogspot.com Uppity

            Yes I have an article somewhere of Dohrn saying something about they stuck forks in them and then ate. She was alllll squealy about it.

            • simon, too

              And if I were to play the losing republican game, I would point out McCain apparently broke under torture, right, aiding the enemy, making anti US statements?

              But I wouldn’t because it’s so Rove, and secondly, it ends up hurting the individual who uses it, no matter how short sighted the K** and Rove’s and Axelrod’s of the world.

              And it lacks class, morally reprehensible.

          • http://hyper-educated-uppity-woman.blogspot.com Uppity

            “Dig it! First they killed those pigs, then they ate dinner in the same room with them. They even shoved a fork into the victim’s stomach! Wild!”

            –Bernardine Dohrn

            http://www.upstatefilms.org/weather/guerrilla.html

          • workingclass artist

            Ayers was a CRAZY RICH CRACKER MOFO DOING BAD ACID….

      • Fleaflicker

        I am not so sure that comment is appropriate.

        • Dawnelle

          ROFLOL!

  • Independent

    There was revolution in the air. Vietnam was killing our friends. You wouldn’t understand. You people like to sit in your cubby holes and “protest” the Iraq War like you are doing something. You have no balls.

    Remember Kent State.

    • chris

      Some revolution…now protestors go out and breakdance to show how serious they are about ending war. They put on silly faces, go around mocking. They are a parody of themselves.

      Kent State students even spend more time dealing with their iPod shuffle than discussing their legacy.

      The revolutionTM will not be televised.

      • http://hyper-educated-uppity-woman.blogspot.com Uppity

        Yeah they will have their ipods with them and text each other during “the revolution”–while their parents are home busting their asses for them.

        • Hope

          Spoiled little shits! I’ve got two of them! One is so entitled that he tells me his dream is to get so rich he can step over homeless people on the street without care. Guess where he lives? CHICAGO! My son the Obamatron! 30 year old OBAMATRON like my father! I’m surrounded by these nits! Sorry I love them, but I can’t take this right now. Sorry. My apologies.

          • workingclass artist

            Hope….I sympathize, my 73 year old Batsht crazy mother is an OBOAMATRON…..You might want to remind your Goldigger son that a rioting massesof poor people tend to ignore the mastercards waved by the rich as they are runnin for cover…..Keep your chin up.

    • http://hyper-educated-uppity-woman.blogspot.com Uppity

      Yeah I do understand. What are you crazy? Were you THERE or did you read a book. This was NOT a romanatic time. Young kids are having their heads filled with this bullshit and nobody in THEIR RIGHT MIND wants to go back to that. Don’t tell me I am sitting in my cubby hole. I was there. And I am adult enough to know it would be wrong to destroy this country that way. It was HORRIBLE. Get your mouth off your old bong and think a little bit will you? Nobody is going to let this happen again without a HUGE fight. I smell blood in the Obama air. He has set back race and gender relations 40 years! I am not going to participate in this kind of carnage again.

      • Independent

        Yes I was there, were YOU. I kept an SDS safe house. I demonstrated against the Vietnam war ON THE STREETS for six years. I lost three friends.
        I don’t want to even hear Your BS.

        What have YOU done lately except look stupid.

        • beebop

          Let me clue you. If you weren’t paying attention to Oklahoma City then there isn’t anything anyone here can tell you. Destruction and killing “collateral” people is not just something Republicans do. When you excuse it merely because the people committing the offense mouth a dogma that you prefer, it doesn’t wash away the blood bath. Terror doesn’t forge many loving relationships.

          • simon, too

            Destruction and killing “collateral” people is not just something Republicans do.

            Yes, it is.

            Iraq, for any number of reasons, they knew there were no WMD.

            Cheney outing Plame, weren’t some of her ME informants murdered?

            • beebop

              Don’t be an ass. Blowing up any building as a statement only says you’re dumb.

              • workingclass artist

                Agreed even the IRA eventually learned that one…

        • John

          So you are proud that you promoted fighting violence with violence? Way to go, hero. Gandhi would have been proud of you.

          And what are you doing to stop the war now? I mean, besides posting heartfelt, “I was an Antiwar hero” messages on a blog? Planning to blow up labs? Financing domestic terrorism?

          “I kept an SDS safe house”- again, way to go. Ever occur to you to do anything CONSTRUCTIVE to stop the war? Or was petitioning, peaceful protest, etc. too much of a Drag cool revolutionaries like you?

        • http://hyper-educated-uppity-woman.blogspot.com Uppity

          What have YOU done lately except look stupid.

          I became an adult with more sense. And if you WERE there and think this is a cool thing to do now, which one of us is stupid again?

          • workingclass artist

            Uppity…..All I have to say is that BRA BURNING GLORIA STEINEM COULD EASILY KICK INDEPENDENT AKA MICHELLE O’S CANDY ASS…

        • http://http//unityindiversity-spiritedpolitics.blogspot.com jm korbel

          Sad you don’t get the underlying issues here include a choice of anger justifying violence vs genuine belief in the principles of democracy and willingness to commit to positive, life affirming action…the person you just shot back doesn’t wallow, but works hard on these issues. You should see her funny, insightful blog, because it sounds like you need a good laugh.

          Maybe you’re one of those bitter people bho is talking about and I’m sorry for that… also sounds like you need to get past your regrets and/or justifications for whatever you did back then. .. in the end, frustration and bitterness is not only destructive to society, it is self destructive.

      • Linda

        Thanks uppity. I agree with you 100%. Other people demonstrated against the war. Those crazy Weathermen people were out trying to kill other people who had nothing to do with the war. They were just on a rampage. I wasn’t there but I was an adult and very interested in the news and they were dangerous to the rest of us who were against the war.

        • http://hyper-educated-uppity-woman.blogspot.com Uppity

          Nothing like killing innocent people to make a point that killing innocent people is wrong, hey?

          • Hope

            Everyone remember Oklahoma City bombing – the firefighter carrying that poor little dead baby??? HORRIBLE!! We don’t need more of that EVER! Homegrown terrorists are just evil.

      • Fleaflicker

        Right on sister!

      • Hope

        I believe you are very correct in your analysis of Obama setting back race 40 years. We can thank this self-serving, pompous, bombastic little boy ( and I don’t mean that in a racist manner). I’m old enough to see who is and who isn’t a little boy. He’s magnified all the horrors and he has absolutely no compunction to make amends for his destructive behavior because he’s in a dream world made up of characters that are extremely treacherous. He doesn’t seem to realize just how destructive some of his cohorts are does he? And that is precisely the problem with this little boy wonder. He is not inhabiting the real world, but a world of his own with him in the starring role as ruler, lord, chieftain and head honcho.

        Anybody who wants to criticize me for calling Obama a little boy can shove off. I have kids, both boys, and I know how little boys act. That is what I mean when I call him this name. So don’t any of you Obamatrons here call me a racist. PERIOD! I’m tired of the PC!

    • workingclass artist

      Grow up…..Will ya…..Jeeeeezzzz……This is national politics for chrisake…
      Did you just hear yourself….Nothing justifies the violence of that group….
      Revolution my ass…..They were just a bunch of spoiled anarchists who acted on adopted causes of the week……Please……

      • workingclass artist

        ….ABOVE COMMENT DIRECTED AT INDEPENDENT…..Michelle get off the computer the kids need to go to school……Love Barry….

    • Nag

      Bill… Bill Ayers, is that you? Someone piss in your cheerios this morning?

      Well, I remember the Viet Nam War quite well and there was NEVER revolution that required people to start bombing and killing here in the US. NEVER. Only to young extreme leftists with addled brains. And no, I’m a woman… I have no balls… I don’t want balls. I think with my brain, not some macho facimile of a brain. Keep your balls.

      • Hope

        True! The vast majority of us peacefully protested. We were afraid of people like Ayers. They were way out on the fringe.

    • beebop

      YOU DON’T KNOW SHIT about KENT STATE. I live in Ohio. I know that campus. Those guardsmen were the same FUCKING ages as those students. DON’T YOU COME HERE WITH YOUR POST MODERN MODERN PATHOLOGY.

      I was in a college in Washington during Viet Nam for Christ’s sake. WAKE UP. It’s 20 years later. War still rages. Not one of those OBAMAPODS would do shit to stop an attack on someone in the street, much less defend this nation.

      Go to hell with your “remember Kent State,” you asshole.

      • beebop

        Sorry … obviously more than 20 years. I listened to the same effete shit on campus … “remember Kent State” from the people looking for change to buy donuts on the way to the protest …. these must be their punishment. Well, not mine.

      • http://hyper-educated-uppity-woman.blogspot.com Uppity

        Way to Go Beebop. These people are on the pipe.

        • workingclass artist

          SMOKIN US GOVT. ISSUE CRACK…….obviously….

      • http://www.food4humanity.org HoosierHoops

        YOU DON’T KNOW SHIT about KENT STATE. I live in Ohio. I know that campus. Those guardsmen were the same FUCKING ages as those students. DON’T YOU COME HERE WITH YOUR POST MODERN MODERN PATHOLOGY

        yea. beebop..who throws around kent state references to rail against a lack of iraq protests?
        Years after the fact, me and a friend drove over to Kent State and stood on the hollowed ground of the shooting. That was a sad day in our countries history. I daresay that referencing Kent State like a badge of honor does disservice to those students that died that day.

    • workingclass artist

      Ehemmm……Independent….Yeah…….and THE UNIBOMBER is a favorite super hero of yours?….

      • http://hyper-educated-uppity-woman.blogspot.com Uppity

        Maybe Ayers and Dohrn will help him break out.

      • Fred C. Dobbs

        >>> THE UNIBOMBER (sic)

        Is that like The Unabomber?

    • simon, too

      You have no balls.

      Murdering innocents, surreptitious attacks, terrorism, in the ultimate example of “no balls” no matter WHO is doing it.

      Fixing an election?

      Cheating the Rove/Obama way?

      No balls, because they’re afraid they may lose, and they’re afraid they may have to fight, fairly, and if that happens, well, they may get hurt.

      The loss in Iraq?

      Victory was supposed to be a slam dunk, how do a bunch of stupid republican wussies handle a war that was supposed to go one two three, in their simple little minds?

      They fuck it up even more, because they don’t know what to do, they can’t problem solve.

      Same with the republican trolls, same with Obama’s crew.

      No balls, no brains.

      Wasn’t there an air force crew like that, the last before they admitted women, they BRAGGED about being the last class with no balls, and no brains?

      They all went to work for Cheney, lost the wars, and it shows.

      • simon, too

        I wish there were some way the military, or the CIA, could read minds, determine an individuals decision making process, and let the world know the difference between a Cheney, or an Obama, neither who have an understanding of the scope of the war, corrupt, frightened, sub par no talents, and the Clintons of the world, who see a million different factors affecting the wars, and are in a much better position to solve the problems, due to a verifiable superior intellect, COURAGE and judgement.

        But that’s not possible, so you have to go on past decisions, and apparently, criminal affiliations.

        Obama has no experience, he’s corrupt. Corruption is already indicative of inferior judgement, for reasons the corrupt can’t understand.

        And we’re going ot truth men like that with the future of our defense?

        • simon, too

          to trust, not truth, but I guess truth is paramount here, too, because without it, we won’t solve the problems,

          And sometimes, the truth hurts.

        • http://http//unityindiversity-spiritedpolitics.blogspot.com jm korbel

          simon: actually there is a way (to tell the difference) Read David Hawkins “Power vs. Force” -includes a calibration that reflects the evolutionary level of an individual or a group.. has a phenomenal chapter on applying this to politics…bho calibrates low and Hillary quite high (surprise, huh?)

          • simon, too

            I’ll check it out, thanks…

    • Fleaflicker

      As someone that did protest the Vietnam War I have fond memories of how PEACEFUL demonstration changed people’s views. The same way MLK’s PEACEFUL protests changed people’s views.

      What the terrorist Weather Underground did is to delegitimize what most of us were trying to do back then.

      Believe me… I understand. Apparently you don’t!

      • simon, too

        Hey Flea, Susan mentioned that same point, and if you get an inkling, either of you, could you write about that aspect, in more detail?

        I find it fascinating to see how the violent groups affected war protests, and I’d like to know, as I’m sure others would, simply for the personal, historical POV.

        Thank you.

      • Independent

        oh mommy, they are typing me to death.

        If it were not for me and the other Vietnam war protesters some of you would not be here to be the asses you are now. We helped save your daddy, you’re welcome.
        I never did anything violent but I was arrested a couple of times at “peaceful” protests.

        Y’all are a good example of why my handle is, Independent. Like I have said for years, there is only repubican and repubican light.

        • beebop

          Thank you.

          Now go.

    • workingclass artist

      Michelle….Please get off the computer….Love Barry.

    • deke

      I was there and there was a revolution in the air but not all were like the Ayers. The great majority of us believed in the words of Martin Luther King and his nonviolent approach to protest. The true test of ones beliefs is in the ability to suffer the discomforts of nonviolent protest to convince people the rightousness of the cause. Violence comes from frustration, a lack of self discipline and a failure to understand or accept someone else point of view. I also think people who turn to violence are basically sadistic.

    • Catriley

      I’m sorry.. but when I WAS out protesting the Iraq war, the very same Obamabot college students from the local university, were driving around the protest march calling us filthy names and harrassing us.

      Now that Saint Obama has arrived on the scene, the same students are harrassing Hillary’s supporters and anyone that does not worship Obama.

      When Obama was claiming his moral authority over protesting the war, his frat boy fans were harrassing people protesting the war.

      They are bandwagon jumpers and fad followers. I’m sorry if you think that violence is the way to end violence. It’s not. It’s still violence. Every side is convinced they are right, and that’s what makes the world a dangerous place.

      Ayer’s group was about to bomb an Officers Dance at Fort Dix, but luckily blew their own stupid asses up instead. Think that’s okay to kill military officers because we were in Vietnam?

      That’s just sick.

      • workingclass artist

        Very Astute…

    • lifelong dem leaving party

      i remember kent state well. i was on a different college campus that same day, participating in an overnight sit in. notice i said sit in, as in protest, not as in bombing. there’s a difference. if you don’t get that, there’s a need for therapy.

    • Hope

      Boy do you assume a lot Independent.

  • http://Supergram.blogspot.com Melissa

    hopefully the voters were watching the debate last night and will wake up!
    Question for Larry- How the hell can Obama get a security clearance???? Association with people attempting to overthrow the government???? Or maybe that is his plan?

    • http://hyper-educated-uppity-woman.blogspot.com Uppity

      Obama get a security clearance????

      Beats me. Where I come from he would never pass DISCO scrutiny. I had to get special clearance and they grilled me just for being in the same SCHOOL with certain SDS people. And none of them were close to being Bill Ayers.

      • Fred C. Dobbs

        I caught boocoo flak at a mid-80′s Clearance Request because I mailed Julie Nixon my draft card…from Vietnam…in 1971 or so.

    • Mawm

      When I got my clearance they asked me about a friend who had declared bankruptcy. Last time I looked that was legal.

      • simon, too

        Youre YOU though, and Obama is Obama, more important, like Cheney, lol.

        I think, though I don’t know, when a politician is a risk, things are withheld, in one way or another.

        I think far less power is situated on the executive than we think, or know, and that’s is just a function of national security.

        I mean, who would give Dick Cheney a clearance?

        Dick and Dave wanted to take apart the Cosntitution, someone must have seen it coming…

    • http://http//unityindiversity-spiritedpolitics.blogspot.com jm korbel

      Melissa, Transparently clear, by now, overthrowing democracy is his plan. He supports far left causes, is supported by far right interests and who is squeezed out of existence? THE MIDDLE CLASS DEMOCRATIC STRUCTURE.

      On which, however, you’ve given a brilliant reminder of the catch 22 in it all.

      See the headlines now.

      OBAMA WINS ELECTION BUT MCCAINE SWORN IN OFFICE!
      (subtext) During the final preparations for the Inaugaration, an emergency session of Congress has reversed the election results, due to FBI refusal to provide Obama with security clearance. A new election will be organized as soon as possible. In the meantime, his opponent, JMc, will fill in.

      • Dawnelle

        OMG what a friggin NIGHTMARE that would be!!

        NO, no, we’d PUT HILLARY in charge.

      • workingclass artist

        Hmmmm……..FACISM 101…..

  • Nag

    Uppity, wonderful post. If these are the relationships Obama holds in public with no apologies, then what in hell might he be hiding? He always intended to run for president and apparently, he felt that Ayers and Dohrn are upstanding folks who would only help in his bid to be the head of the most powerful nation in the world. What is wrong with this picture? Barak Obama doesn’t know it’s wrong to rub noses with and befriend terrorists. Does he have a lot in common with the Ayers’? What do they talk about, building bombs? Or how to pick targets for maximum murder and mayhem?? Think about it… Obama expects to be the next president of the US and he unabashedly befriends terrorists. And this is the first time we’ve actually heard about this from the MSM!!!

    Thanks for putting this together, Uppity. You’re my hero for today :)

    All praise to Charlie Gibson for asking the great and powerful Obama about Ayers.

  • beebop

    Politico did an Ayers article also. Back in February …

    I found one portion really interesting … post 8 year old Barack …

    ‘ As Bloomberg News reported recently, Obama and Ayers have crossed paths repeatedly in the last decade. In 1997, Obama cited Ayers’ critique of the juvenile justice system in a Chicago Tribune article on what prominent Chicagoans were reading. He and Ayers served together on the board of the Woods Fund of Chicago for three years starting in 1999. In 2001, Ayers also gave $200 to Obama’s state Senate reelection campaign. ‘

    Here’s the link …. http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0208/8630.html

    Made a visit to Wikipedia.org. Bill Ayer’s entry is locked … interesting … in a kind of really creepy way ….

    • http://hyper-educated-uppity-woman.blogspot.com Uppity

      yeah I saw it was locked. I used it when I first did this article awhile back on my blog. They are working double time.

      • simon, too

        I would love to know of Ayers involvement with the PLO, through Khalidi, at the very least.

  • scott

    Speaking of bombings. Barry says that Rev. Wright doesn’t hate the county because he was a Marine.
    Best comment I heard last night was that Timothy McVeigh was in the Army, go figure.

    • workingclass artist

      Wright is a Black Separatist…..Tis true…..It’s the cause…..

      • Fred C. Dobbs

        Sounds good to me. Uncle Sam owns several troop ships, hanging on the hook, rusting away in the Reserve Fleet.

        We can Get ‘Em Smokin’ and run them from NOLA and Charleston back and forth to Monrovia (Liberia).

        ABSOLUTELY EMPTY on the Return trip, Thank You Very Much.

        Give each and every “Reverse Immigrant” a 50 LB bag of rice and ten Krugerrands upon disembarkation to spend in, “The Mother Country.”

        That should settle all that hash about Slavery stealing Africa’s Best Minds.

        Also, the government of Liberia would probably be DELIGHTED to grant each Reverse Immigrant his rightful, “40 Acres and a Mule,” promised his ancestors by William Tecumseh Sherman.

        Provided, of course, that Uncle Sam gave Liberia the mules, mule skinners, mule feed and recipes for mule meat.

    • http://americaninitaly.blogspot.com/ sarainitaly

      I thought of the same thing when he said that.

  • http://hyper-educated-uppity-woman.blogspot.com Uppity

    This campaign is a HUGE danger to America. I don’t care what dance anybody does, this man must NOT be elected.

    • workingclass artist

      I salute You…..and agree…..Banjo Up!….Keep up the work….

      • simon, too

        Oh, I had a banjo once.

        But it was made of balsa wood, broke really easily.

        I was a kid, what did I know?

    • beebop

      Yeah, and they aren’t singing Peter, Paul and Mary either.

      • http://hyper-educated-uppity-woman.blogspot.com Uppity

        …with the possible exception of “Puff”.

        • beebop

          your lips … God’s ears

        • lifelong dem leaving party

          lol re puff.

          obama’s the candidate people would most like to share a bong with.

    • Hope

      True Uppity – so true! It fills me with horror. He would either destroy us or get nothing done whatsoever which we can’t afford at this point. I think there’s a good chance he would sell us out to our enemies. He seems to really have it out for American. He’s hiding his true agenda which is to make us “global”. Sell us out. ROGUE!

  • Mr.Murder

    Barack is toast that was burnt by a bomb.

    Then they bombed the ITT buildings in both New York and Rome, Italy.

    Wow, they worked Red Brigade’s turf? A group of neoliberals worked the counteroperative turf where a foreign group attacked left wing threats to right wing candidates?

    Who could have imagined? Certainly not the OSP or PNAC.

  • Mr.Murder

    Mr. Bill, Oh Nooooooooo!
    Barack’s campaign is getting mashed like a cheesy SNL character.

    BTW, Mr.Hand is now giving you the finger!

  • John

    I’m laughing like hell at the “What about Clinton and her Communist Boss forty years ago?” comments over at Huffington Post: too much. I have to give credit to the Obamabots, they will use ANYTHING in their desperate need to lash out after Obama’s ugly “performance” last night. “Hillary Worked with a Guy some People considered a Communist when she was in her twenties!” Oh my gosh, quick everyone, grab your shovels, let’s dig up Martin Dies, Joe McCarthy and Richard Nixon and get on this scandal right away!

    • http://hyper-educated-uppity-woman.blogspot.com Uppity

      Did McCarthy certify her boss?

    • http://hyper-educated-uppity-woman.blogspot.com Uppity

      Hell half the professors in college were communists when I went to school.

      • workingclass artist

        Is’nt this why the ACLU was formed….

        • simon, too

          To fight cheney, and addington?

    • lifelong dem leaving party

      so she worked for a law firm with a communist boss 40 years ago. obama worked for a law firm that represented rezko about 10 years ago. he doesn’t think that’s a problem, nor does he think it’s a problem that rezko and ayers/dohrn and auchi gave him fundraising parties, etc. and he spent time at rezko’s vacation home. and rezko helped him get a house he couldn’t afford. and he wrote letters to get rezko public funding for the slums he didn’t put heat in. and he served on a board with ayers. and he spent 20 years with wright. and hamas endorsed him and has people making calls to get votes for him. and on and on.

      guess the screaming about unfair guilt by association only goes one way.

      sorry, obama we’re on to you.

  • http://hyper-educated-uppity-woman.blogspot.com Uppity

    We have these young kids, NIKEs (no income kids with education) living home, leeching off their parents for staples so they can appear “upscale”. They’re bored and looking for excitement. They sit there waiting for some major corporation to make the lord of the company. They are perfect marks for guys like Ayers. This is why Obama “inspires” them. The rallies, the hooting. It’s all so obvious. Ayers is a hero to them now, thanks to the deliberate crack Barack Obama has craftily put into the country.

    • beebop

      If you removed every leased car from the roads in America, gas prices would plummet.

      • http://hyper-educated-uppity-woman.blogspot.com Uppity

        And parental car insurance bills would go wayyyyyyyy down.

    • Mawm

      I am 39. Is it just a fact of life that the older you get, the more you can’t stand the behavior of young people? I remember when I was 20 thinking that older people were out-of-touch. Now, I look back and laugh at my arrogance.
      I think our culture is sortof flipped upside down from our traditions. We used to respect older people for their experience. Now that experience is looked on as a negative thing. Everyone seems to be chasing the youth, from corporate advertisers to current politcians. I even read an article about older people being goaded into supporting Obama by their children. When the children are telling the parents how to vote you know we are in bad shape culturally.
      I would hope that we could put value back into the hard earned experience we have accumulated over the years. We used to call it wisdom.

      • http://hyper-educated-uppity-woman.blogspot.com Uppity

        I think it was Twain (it’s ALWAYS Twain, lol) who said

        When I was 14 I knew my parents were the dumbest people in the world. When I was 21, I was amazed at how much they had learned in 7 years.

      • simon, too

        We weren’t great as young people, and we over estimate our importance, now.

        You know?

        There are great kids, a few, but most are like anybody else, mundane, stupid, shallow, just like us, when we were their age.

        A lot of us are still the same.

        Someone once said they had the expectation all old people were mellow , nice people.

        They’re not, if they were stupid bastards as kids, they’ll be even worse when older, fortunately, not so fast, anymore.

      • Hope

        I believe after 50 your perspective changes dramatically. At least it has for me. I tend to dismiss much of what youth professes because I realize they have little personal history and limited frames of time-referential. It isn’t their fault of course, we were all young once, but they possess little wisdom. Age affords one a sense of humility that should be tempered. What truly makes me laugh is when young people tell me that they’ve lived a long time in “experience”. No! It takes TIME to attain wisdom and calm and then some never gain wisdom anyway.

      • http://http//unityindiversity-spiritedpolitics.blogspot.com jm korbel

        Notice the same upside-downness Mawm reports. Started with MSM driving consumers, like cattle, to overspend…both parents with jobs, never home/always tired, and buying kids everything on TV to compensate. Believe these entitled brats got that way, sadly, because, deep inside, they feel deprived. Money (and cell phones) can’t replace Love – and that’s what bo’s been preying upon in this campaign.

        Those who saw the debate, come with your comments and take our poll:

        http://unityindiversity-spiritedpolitics.blogspot.com

      • http://http://hyper-educated-uppity-woman.blogspot.com Uppity

        Well according to CNN, if you are 39 you cannot possible be for Hillary and you adore Obama.

  • http://hyper-educated-uppity-woman.blogspot.com Uppity

    Where’s my fellow hippie Flea?????

    • Fleaflicker

      Right here. Always within toking distance……

  • Kefa

    I have said this for awhile now…..this man is a plant. This man is dangerous, and more is to be shown. I hope Clinton and trial shows more. Obama’s name came up yesterday with another person of interest Nadhmi Auchi, whom he claimed not to know but he also seems to have a memory problem. This also has to be explained. This goes back to Saddam. There is alot more in this rotten barrel of apples.

    • http://hyper-educated-uppity-woman.blogspot.com Uppity

      He will not be elected. Adults don’t let children pick presidents. Ask George McGovern.

      • simon, too

        And “plants” are still stupid, “plants” don’t represent any act of great genius.

        Look at the morons who invaded Iraq, they probably don’t even know what DAY it is, or year, even…

    • http://http//unityindiversity-spiritedpolitics.blogspot.com jm korbel

      Where did you see that name “come out” yesterday? There have been previous comments about him on this site.

  • http://hyper-educated-uppity-woman.blogspot.com Uppity

    Thus the Youth Movement-Like Rallies. Just as I suspected.

  • http://hyper-educated-uppity-woman.blogspot.com Uppity

    LOL they don’t want to go back to the 90s but the 60s is ok.

  • http://hyper-educated-uppity-woman.blogspot.com Uppity

    These jerks are going to force us to vote for the Old Man. I simply cannot believe this.

    • Fred C. Dobbs

      Yeah, it’ll suck.

      Best to buy some Raytheon, Boeing, General Dynamics and Northrop “on the dip” and make some decent money while the country’s honor circles the bowl on the way to The Big Sewer.

      (snark-o-matic OFF)

      • http://hyper-educated-uppity-woman.blogspot.com Uppity

        They’ve given us no choice. Carnage there or carnage here.

  • Betty

    There was a moment during the debate last night when Obama said he had disowned Reverend Wrights words, Geo misunderstood what Obama said and asked “you disowned the Reverend? (I think Geo. thought he had caught Obama in a lie.)
    What I am interested in here is the look comes into Obama’s eyes and spreads across his face. I would like to see it again to fully form an opinion of it.

    • Fleaflicker

      Because I was live blogging I missed most of the visuals. The times I did glanced at the TV Obama looked really pissed.

    • Mawm

      You can’t disown words. You can disavow them. You disown people. He was talking about Wright, but got caught and had to backtrack.

    • Tricia

      Actually at first Obama DID say he disowned the Reverend. Also, you are correct about that look on his face. Then he changed it, it wasn’t misunderstood.

      I felt it was one of those moments where just like always, Obama puts things out there as if they are truth or had been mentioned or addresses before.

      Like when I listened to Hugh Hewitt’s 04140802 Hewitt: Hour 2 audio clip on Townhall.com, two other things that Barack said when questioned about his Reverend got my attention and that I feel are lies.

      1.) “There’s been this notion that he was, by various terms, he’s been my spiritual advisor, my spiritual mentor. He’s been.. my pastor.. and what that means is that the ministries that have built in that church community have been very important to me.”

      “It also means there are areas that we disagreed on and obviously the most recent loop…”

      2.) “….also express some comments I think are offensive and contrary to what I believe. I’ve told him so and I’ve made a lot of statements about that…”

      He’s the one that claimed Rev. Wright was his mentor, now he’s trying to diminish his relationship.

      Since when did he say something to the Reverend? It’s hard to believe that if he indeed did this that we wouldn’t have heard this from Obama himself. He certainly would have used that to his advantage, don’t you think?

      It’s how Obama makes things go away. He’s certainly a smooth talker an dobviously a lot of people are buying into it. Sorry, but I’m too smart for him.

  • Dawnelle

    The plant or troll is also forgetting one very important difference between the anger back then versus the lack of it now.

    Can you say D R A F T??

    Heroes and dumbasses are volunteering for this cluster fk. Still. (scratching my head)

    I know MOST want to get the Hail out of there. So I say lets bring them home.

    This aint no Kent State moment.
    dee, dee, dee

    troll, plant or whomEVA!

    • Fleaflicker

      And they are forgetting that Ayers and his crowd actually sided with Ho Chi Mihn. Ayers even wrote love poems about him. This wasn’t just a form of protest against the war. It was a definite, well planned terrorist war against the whole foundations of our Democracy.

      • http://hyper-educated-uppity-woman.blogspot.com Uppity

        Well their book pushed Communism.

    • workingclass artist

      They are discussing re-instating the draft now…..Heard an illusion to it at a congressional hearing on NPR…Sorry can’t site the reference but it was a topic a couple of weeks ago.

  • http://hyper-educated-uppity-woman.blogspot.com Uppity

    This is like watching a mad hatter’s tea party. I can’t even believe we have to explain this to people.

    • TeakwoodKite

      Can I be the Mock turtle?

  • Betty

    I guess I need to add that I think I saw fear in his face and I instantly wondered why. Today I am not sure what I saw.

  • http://thehorizontalworld.blogspot.com/ Mary Jo Kopechne

    Great post Uppity. Most Obama’s acolytes are way too young to remember the horrors of that time and they make the potentially fatal mistake of romanticizing the Weathermen and the other terrorists of the time. I was a teenager then and to me, the Weathermen and the Charles Manson family seemed oddly connected. For one thing, both groups felt completely justified in killing people.

    I also want to point out that the group, Recreate 68, who are recruiting and organizing for street protests (aka riots) in Denver, are proudly using what they call Weathermen-esque tactics.

    Does it strike anyone else ironic that it comes from circle to Chicago? 1968 riots, The Days of Rage (coined by the Weathermen) Ayers, Wright, Obama….

    BTW, has anyone checked out a connection between Wright and Ayers?

    • workingclass artist

      …..Don’t ask Jack to help you, cause he’ll turn the other ear…
      Won’t you please come to Chicago or else join the other side…

      WE CAN CHANGE …….THE WORLD….
      REARRANGE…………….THE WORLD…
      CSNY, 4 way street

      OH……..THE IRONY…….

  • Dawnelle

    Let them go ahead and make fools of themselves.

    MOST of us remember the DRAFT made all the difference. NONE of those young punks has a number on their heads to go shave off their locks and stand in line.

    IF they did???? They’d probably be cowering in their closets at home while MOM and DAD got angry and protested!!!

    grr

    • Fred C. Dobbs

      No, they’d be bitching on their cell phones about the line to get through Canadian Immigration on their way to set up Landed Immigrant status.

      The Coast Guard would have NO trouble meeting its recruiting goals.

  • http://thehorizontalworld.blogspot.com/ Mary Jo Kopechne

    My two sons are big Hillary supporters. They find their friends who are Obama supporters ill-informed (my word) and embarrassing. And they’re both very hip and cool–just like their mom!

    • Dawnelle

      Right On!

  • scott

    Did any one else catch the comment Barry made that he didn’t attack Hillary his campaign did. I liked the giggle it gave Hillary. He will not take responsibility for anything. Its always someones fault other than him.

    • workingclass artist

      This will become habitual if this man is elected…..Where are his state senate records ? has he given them up yet ?

  • CeeHussein

    Ayers is MARRIED to the woman Bill Clinton pardoned.

    Ed Rendell said we need to be talking about real questions. I agree.

    Meanwhile…this is the man that Hillary supports.

    Report: Netanyahu says 9/11 terror attacks good for Israel

    http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/975574.html

    • scott

      In 1985, former Weather Underground members Susan Rosenberg (who also was implicated in the Nyack robbery) and Linda Evans were apprehended while transporting 740 pounds of explosives which they both acknowledged were slated for use in additional bombings. Rosenberg was sentenced to 58 years in prison, Evans 40; President Bill Clinton pardoned both women in January 2001

      William Ayers is married to Bernadine Dohrn get your facts straight.

    • WMCB

      You are an idiot. What Netanyahu said, in the context of being asked about the effects of 9/11 on world opinion, was that the “one beneficial thing” was that it garnered support for Israel by exposing the violence and viciousness of the terror groups they had been facing for years.

    • http://hyper-educated-uppity-woman.blogspot.com Uppity

      First of all, the sentences were commuted not pardoned. They served lengthy sentences and expressed regret Ayers and Dohrn have done neither. In fact Ayers has expressed interest in more. Ayers did not marry one of them, he’s married to Dohrn, fool.

      And finally, Bill clinton didn’t hang around with them, go to their homes, have them work on his campaigns and have the stupidity to defend them in a national debate.

      I canot even believe I am having this conversation with someone sane. You are sane, aren’t you?

    • Fleaflicker

      Clinton did not pardon her. Get your frickin facts straight. Oh wait… sorry I forgot you support Obama and facts don’t mean a thing.

      • Dawnelle

        LOL {{FLEA}}

    • Independent

      LOL, Clinton pardoned Ayers wife… this is RICH!

      911 WAS very good for Israel. Misery loves company and now we have our own personal Arafat in Osama Bin Laden.

      TYPE THAT PROTEST, BITCHES, TYPE !!!

      :)

      • beebop

        I really hope that FEDEX gets there soon with your medication. You are seriously one guy who shouldn’t miss any dosages. Really. You are really really oyt there.

        Lay down in a darkened room with good circulation of air and listen to music that is comforting.

        I apologize for goading you. If I had had any inkling of how much help you must need, I would just have ignored you.

        • Independent

          I see you have nothing, ever, but the persoanl attack. You are so weak.

          • http://http://hyper-educated-uppity-woman.blogspot.com Uppity

            Hey asshole, Ayers is married to Dohrn, not one of the women who were commuted. Put the damned pipe down.

    • Mary

      As usual, Cee is poorly informed with her Obama cut-and-pastes.

      Clinton did not “pardon” her.

      He commuted her sentence AFTER she had served a number of years in prison.

      There’s a difference, dear.

  • buckskin711

    i hate sean hannity over on foxnews, but he is hot on this ayers story. and he’s not going to let it go. obama gets really pissed when anybody tries to hang him on his “associations”, gee, i wonder why ? this association need to hang obama, once and for all. can you imagine ayers and company in our white house ? i am starting to think this obama thing is really an attempt to overthrow the government as we know it. god, thats frightening. a couple of times last night at the debate, did you notice the look of pure hate on obama’s face ? he’s lucky that those two moderaters were soft on him. the right one would have ended his race in the election. obama is cracking………

  • Mel

    What some do not seem to get is that some people mature and change their opinions after they lose their rebel side from the early years in life and some don’t!

    Ayers quote in the NYT 9/11/2001 article:
    So, would Mr. Ayers do it all again, he is asked? ”I don’t want to discount the possibility,” he said.
    http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9F02E1DE1438F932A2575AC0A9679C8B63&st=cse&sq=william+ayres+and+bomb&scp=3

    This is a guy who maintains without regret or removes his actions, and thus his ideologys are still rooted in the same sorts of thought patterns, thus as any association with a friend, they speak from the ideologies they believe in.

    One simple question needs to be answered first of all:

    If Obama is elected POTUS, is this the sort of person anyone would want to have in the Whitehouse as a guest of the POTUS?

    Yes an excuse can be made that Obama was 8 yrs old at the time, but he is an adult now, hanging around with people who maintain the same convictions they did when Obama was 8 yrs old, so is Obama now going to use the excuse Bill Ayers is like family too, as he did with Wright?

    Ayers is for lack of a better word, an self proclaimed murderer. Wright is an instiller of hate, and these two people are Obama friends and people Obama defends!

    Obama is a constitutional lawyer and claims to believe in the Constitution and yet he has close associations with home grown terrorists who use the Constitution in a misguided way to promote terrorist acts and opinions towards the USA. And Obama wants to be POTUS, to defend the Constitution, when he doesn’t even defend it at home?

    Does this explain Obamas words in SF of small town Americans being bitter?

    Does this explain the change Obama stumps upon?

    Bitter wife, bitter friends, bitter words combined with what Michelle Obama stated of “for the first time in my adult life I am proud of my country” does lay a foundation that America is possibly handing over the button to a very bitter man!

  • http://parsingwords.blogspot.com cjbardy

    I would like those who trivialize Obama’s association with Ayers & Dohrn to imagine a mellowed out Bin Laden a few years in the future becoming a supporter of our next Presidential candidate. If that doesn’t do it for you, imagine any other terrorist you want (that used bombs or violence) being considered main stream and acceptable in the future.

    Doesn’t work, does it?

    Just because Dohrn and Ayers, are domestic terrorists and white Americans doesn’t make it any more acceptable.

    • Catriley

      And people don’t realize that Dohrn and Ayers got out of being charged for the failed bombling plot on the Officer’s Club at Fort Dix (?) only because of botched surveillance. It was a technicality.

      Clinton didn’t pardon Ayers because he was never convicted of a felony. In hindsight, with all of the resources of the internet and information sharing, we can now see the level of destruction that Ayers & Co. unleashed on America. I remember the news stories when I was a kid, and they scared the shit out of me.

  • Mr.Murder

    When 36 sticks of dynamite were discovered at a police precinct in Detroit, Bill Ayers just happened to be in town.

    No wonder Obama pulled his own name off the ballot.

  • JKFriz

    Far be it from me to mention that the youtube clip you linked to was posted by username “DemocratsHateTheUS.” Fun game, this guilt-by-association!

    • Dawnelle

      Hey I didn’t notice that!

      That’s some lame chit.

    • http://hyper-educated-uppity-woman.blogspot.com Uppity

      Well you can count on more of that with this nutcase in the race, bet on it. There is something reallllllly wrong with a party that would even allow a man with these affiliations run for the office of the most powerful person in the world. He’s stinking up the entire party.

      • Dawnelle

        Actually both my 83 yr old Mom and I (not my daughter) have decided to change to Independent if Barry gets the nod.

        We’re also gonna write in Hillary’s name in Nov. (we found out it’s allowed in NC)

        so I agree that the D party’s leadership has had me angry for about a year now.

      • workingclass artist

        I agree….Because of the collossal ego of OBAMESSIAH the third party will get traction and the Democratic party will become a fringe. ( sigh )

        • lifelong dem leaving party

          maybe we can make a good third party, one that picks candidates because they like know stuff and can do stuff and don’t hang out with terrorists? course, dean, pelosi, kerry, kennedy, and especially obama are not invited, since they don’t meet the qualifications.

  • http://noratings.blogspot.com/ Bud White

    It is now indisputable that Obama has terrible judgment picking friends.

    Do we want a flaming racist in the White House giving a prayer breakfast?

    Do we want Bill Ayers staying the night in the Lincoln Bedroom? Would Obama show
    Ayers classified documents?

    I mean these question in all seriousness.

    • Dawnelle

      and that’s BEFORE he picks a VP

      I don’t even want to GO there in my mind about that!

    • Fred C. Dobbs

      >>> It is now indisputable that Obama has terrible judgment picking friends.

      And mates, as well.

  • http://noratings.blogspot.com/ Bud White

    Posted at mydd.com

    Please add a comment and recommend NOW

    http://www.mydd.com/story/2008/4/17/111115/719

    • http://hyper-educated-uppity-woman.blogspot.com Uppity

      I can’t post on myDD. But your recent commenter is full of shit. A man was paralyzed by these people and a cop was killed.

      • http://hyper-educated-uppity-woman.blogspot.com Uppity

        In fact, the dead cop is mentioned in the piece. Ask him if he can read.

      • http://noratings.blogspot.com/ Bud White

        I’ll post that now

        • http://hyper-educated-uppity-woman.blogspot.com Uppity

          Bud they weren’t pardoned. They were commuted after long sentences. They expressed regret. Ayers and Dohrn did neither. And Clinton didn’t hang out at their home, have them work on his campaigns,join boards with them and maintain a friendship with them for more than a decade.

          • http://noratings.blogspot.com/ Bud White

            posting…

  • Tricia

    The idea that Obama shouldn’t have to answer for all this is ridiculous. If this had been addressed long ago like it shoul dhave been, then Obama wouldn’t be facing this now. What more is out there? What else got scrubbed? He is scary.

    His Ayers answer…my god. I don’t care if he bombed buildings, government or otherwise, 20 years before I was born. If I am wanting to be President (and by the way, If I’m not wanting to be President either) I avoid him, his neighbor, his kindergarten teacher and his dog’s puppies like they were the plaque. NOT because I’m running for President but because what he/they did was heinous and against the land I love.

    I don’t care if he wasn’t punished legally, it doesn’t make him not guilty, especially when he admits it, boasts about it and says they didn’t do enough and he regrets that.

    Just think…Ayers is only ONE issue that Obama needs to answer for.

  • PMS

    Bill Ayers is just bitter, and so he clings to revolution and bombs, and he doesn’t like people who aren’t just like him… like Barry and Michelle and Jeremiah and Louis.

    • simon, too

      But this one, you’re right.

      I would also say he has issues with his sexuality, but that’s another discussion.

      “I am not violent because I have issues with my sexuality. I am not!”

      Heh.

      • workingclass artist

        ehemmm………..DYNOMITE!…….lol

  • http://www.sugarnspice.typepad.com Sugar

    And the idiots are just fine with this…smdh. Wonderful job you Uppity woman!! I mean, how can anyone deny that this is causing Ronald Reagan to have an orgasm in his grave! No offense. The R.A.M (Republican Attack Machine) is sitting idle waiting to plow Obama’s ass down if he is the nominee!

    • workingclass artist

      Ehemmmm……….My republican pal called me and said his St. Reagan idol got a stiffie…LOL… sugar you are a riot.

  • it’snotme

    I wonder if Bill Ayers knew Frank Marshall Davis? I wonder if Ayers ever visited Hawaii during the years he was on his terrorist rampage? Davis (communist) was Mr. Hope’s mentor in Hawaii.

    from your post:

    For starters, the Weather Underground claimed credit for a bombing in Chicago, which they referred to as a “kickoff” of what they called their “Days Of Rage”. Their book. entitled, “Prairie Free”, strongly called for a unified Communist Party.

    I WONDER if Davis and Ayers knew each other? Could THAT be why Mr. Hope ended up in Chicago? He knew Ayers through Davis and that’s why he moved there so Ayers could connect him to the people he needed to be connected to? Larry’s post from the other day asking why Mr. Hope ended up in Chicago leads me to that question/connection. Mr. Hope’s dad was also a communist, no? Or is that just RW spin? I don’t know that much about Mr. Hope’s dad.

    • simon, too

      I agree, good start, no one wants to look at what is obvious.

      And then how it connects back to the Cheney, and certain republicans.

      I see the gang that can’t shoot straight, what a bunch of mediocre fish, sturgeon of a lesser god.

  • Mel

    What people tend to forget is Obama is a dillusional character!

    Obama’s claims of:
    his father coming to America via the Kennedy airlift which is a lie

    he being of a single mother, lie

    he being a product of Selma, lie

    Just these items of his in his own writings as an adult, figments of his imagination, combined with his associations proved Obama one clear pass being POTUS, to actually make some of his bitterness imaginary life experiences come to be!

    Now OT, yet not OT. Obama as Chair of the Senate Commitee on NATO and Europe, had Obama actually had a session of it, would have require Obama and his commitee to take a stance on injecting troops into Afganistan. Obama’s excuse is he was too busy running for POTUS to hold any hearings. Obama knew this at the time the Chair of the commitee was offered last year to him, so why didn’t Obama say thanks but no thanks, as I am to busy to be able to chair the commitee!

    A simple answer comes to mind, a Commitee without a Chair is a non-existant Commitee and unable to recommend increasing forces in Afganistan to hunt bin Ladin down.

    Obama claims to have superior judgement, is this the judgement he took in taking on the title of Chair of the commitee, to render it useless?

    Combine this inaction with Ayers reactions towards not doing enough bombings in America, and the other sorts, is this a preview of the real Obama?

  • http://noquarterusa.net/ SusanUnPC

    OT ANNOUNCEMENT / CRITICAL:

    Call ABC and tell them you were happy with their professional coverage
    and moderating of tonight’s debate.

    The number:

    1-818-560-1000

    We must get this message to them and support them now. Please help.
    They are being deluged with calls from Obama people.

    This is the kind of tactic we have seen throughout the campaign. If
    you care to help balance things out, please act now.

    (Apologies to Uppity for interrupting, but the entire Kool-Aid blogosphere is going nuts over the debate last night, and we need to provide our perspectives. SEE ALSO, Larry’s post below asking us to write to Charles Gibson.)

    • rwc

      Yep batshit crazy because because Gibson brought up a few salient questions to dear leader.

      Hell they want a fatwa against Gibson.

      What a bunch of closet jackbooted authoritarians so-called “progressives” turned out to be. Put them in a brown uniform and you couldn’t tell the difference between them any stooge of Hitler or Stalin.

      BTW this kind of response is typically seen in cults of the personality rather than in political campaigns. Because of this I expect there’s going to be riots in Denver should Obama not get the nomination.

  • raymo

    There’s a few things I know for sure. And one of them is that Barack Hussein Obama will never set foot in the Oval Office as president.

    Ain’t gonna happen, boys and girls. If the superdelegates are as brain-dead as the robots that hang out on Daily Kos, then we are in major trouble.

    • PMS

      If the superdelegates are as brain-dead as the robots that hang out on Daily Kos, then we are in major trouble.

      Many of the SDs are elected officials who dream of corralling Obama supporters for their own campaigns, and they may be willing to loose the WH again in oeder to keep their elected position.

      Too many pols are simply self-serving scum.

      • http://www.sugarnspice.typepad.com Sugar

        “Many of the SDs are elected officials who dream of corralling Obama supporters for their own campaigns, and they may be willing to loose the WH again in oeder to keep their elected position.”

        EXCELLENT point PMS!

    • PMS

      If the superdelegates are as brain-dead as the robots that hang out on Daily Kos, then we are in major trouble.

      Many of the SDs are elected officials who dream of corralling Obama supporters for their own campaigns, and they may be willing to loose the WH again in order to keep their elected position.

      Too many pols are simply self-serving scum.

      • SensibleWoman

        What they probably fail to consider is how foolish they too are going to look to their constituency as soon as BO is raked over the coals.

      • workingclass artist

        It will be interesting how much pull The INSTITUTIONALISTS ( those SD’s that care about the party ) have.

  • Destardi

    Comment by raymo | 2008-04-17 10:44:28

    There’s a few things I know for sure. And one of them is that Barack Hussein Obama will never set foot in the Oval Office as president.

    Ain’t gonna happen, boys and girls. If the superdelegates are as brain-dead as the robots that hang out on Daily Kos, then we are in major trouble.

    Reply to this comment

    Naw, we’d only be in major trouble if Obamanation actually had a shot at winning the GE.

    He doesn’t. So we’re cool

    McCain? I can deal with him for 4 years…

    Obama can crawl back to his cesspool on the Southside of Chicago.

  • Amy

    welcome to the wonderful world of Chicago poltics.
    the land where a man who has not been vetted becomes
    a U.S. Senator because the competition is eliminated
    because of information surfacing on wife beating
    (the wife goes to work for Blagojevich), and
    public sex action (Ryan the Republican). so you get to
    run against Alan Keyes but even there you look weak
    in the debates. don’t worry you have helpers.

    allan is nuts so no one remembers Ayers, Wright, Rezko,
    and your super liberal positions. and you cannnot remember
    that you proposed a toast to Auchi who is up on charges, an
    Iraqi under huge cloud. You’re too busy asking the
    Syrian national, Rezko, to take a tour of a house and advise you on the real estate purchase. so you decide you are
    qualified to be president.

    and Axelrod and his pals, like Marilyn Katz, press person
    for the Days of Rage, are raking in the cash, telling City
    Hall that they can coopt the left by being in house
    lefties. and bullying everyone. and pushing Obama.

    America, you’re next. unless they are all stopped.

  • http://noratings.blogspot.com/ Bud White

    There’s a theme to Obama’s controversial friends: they hate
    America. Obama’s friends want God to damn America or they
    want to blow up America.

    WTF?????

  • Tricia

    The Republicans will only need Bill Ayers to do in Obama’s bid for the presidency if he gets the nomination. Wright, Rezko, and other colorful cohorts will only be frosting on the Ayers cake.

    We need a Democrat in the White House. It will never be Obama, so, Hillary, you are my gal!

  • KXB

    How about this – Hillary Clinton is married to Bill Clinton, who shook hands with Yasser Arafat, even shared meals with him from time to time. Arafat has killed civilians. Senator Clinton, can you please tell us is you support this killing of civilians?

    Yeah – didn’t think so.

    • beebop

      Yawn. The difference here is that Bill and Hillary Clinton won’t deny these meetings. There are pictures of them. Do you see?

    • workingclass artist

      KXB…Ehemmm…….Arafat was the political head of the PLO. They were in negotiations….Carter started that one….Grow Up

  • Catriley

    Obama and his personal scribe (Nedra Pickler of AP) have gone off the deep end.

    You won’t believe this one. After Obama being asked about his ties to domestic terrorists, the front page of Yahoo has the infamous Nedra Pickler’s piece “Obama Urges Voters Not to Forget Hillary’s Past”. http://tinyurl.com/63jplm

    From Nedra: ” -Remember the cookies?

    Barack Obama wants to make sure that voters do, even if it was 16 years ago that Hillary Rodham Clinton created an uproar when she sniffed that she could have given up her career and “stayed home, baked cookies and had teas.”

    “Despite the signs that her criticisms may be backfiring, Clinton did not pull her punches against Obama.”

    People are always complaining about the TV networks, but Beth Fouhy and Nedra Pickler are the worst of the worst when it comes to puffing air up Obama’s behind and trashing Hillary at the same time.

    Cookies vs. terrorist. I’ll take the cookies.

    • PMS

      Ummm! I love cookies! Terrorists, not so much.

      It’s an American thing.

      • workingclass artist

        Have you heard the flap over Recipe Gate abot McInsane’s wife and the cooking channel ?…..LOL

  • Mel

    an earlier blog on here asked why did Obama go to work in Chicago as a community organizer? Then questions the association with Ayers!

    A quote from an article: Though SDS had other issues, including support for the African-American civil rights movement and community organizing projects in inner cities, the U.S. war against Viet Nam galvanized the organization like nothing else could have.

    You must read this, as it brings a few things into focus in an interview with Mark Rudd, leader of the famous 1968 student occupation and strike at New York’s Columbia University.!
    http://www.upstatefilms.org/weather/sandiego.html

    Mark’s rational for getting out of the WU:

    So it varied. In general, I think people who figured it out early were a bit more in touch with reality. In other words, the earlier you figured it out, the more in touch with reality you were.

    So the question becomes, Obama attended Coumbia U, went to work for a while in Harlem as an organizer, left for Chicago to do the same, only difference is in Chicago, was a couple who happened to be the Ayers, strong defiant militants of the WU, did Obama turn to chicago to seek out Ayers?

    Probability becomes reality when the dots become connected!

  • KXB

    “The difference here is that Bill and Hillary Clinton won’t deny these meetings.”

    Nor did Obama – he just didn’t see what the point was in bringing it up. Really, in terms of threats to the nation, is Weather Underground really that high up? Only if it supports Ms. Ready on Day 1 (or 2, or 3).

    • beebop

      please …. you don’t think you can talk me into submission and I know I can’t talk you into reason.

      Why don’t you join you buddies calling ABC, Disney and all of the other companies that offended your candidate last night … poor thing. Poor preparation. Lazy.

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  • DJ

    In recent days, Obama has won the endorsements of the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette and the newspapers in Allentown and Scranton.
    And today: The Philadelphia Daily News…

    http://www.philly.com/philly/hp/news_update/20080417_VOTE_FOR_BARACK_OBAMA.html

    VOTE FOR BARACK OBAMA

    THE CHOICE in Tuesday’s Democratic presidential primary is not only the one between a white woman and a black man. It’s a choice between the past and the future.
    More specifically, the nation must decide how to face the future racing toward us in the form of slumping home sales, unstable financial markets and increased joblessness – and staring at us from the Green Zone in Iraq and the beds at veterans hospitals.

    Should Democrats choose someone who will employ hard-won – even bitter – experiences gained in a past Democratic administration, or reach beyond political truisms toward a new (and untried) model of governing?

    Neither choice is obvious. Perhaps that’s why the race has gone on for so long.

    But the long slog through 44 primaries and caucuses has confirmed for us that Sen. Barack Obama’s vision of change – and the way he plans to pursue it – is what we need right now. Badly.

    This is a campaign that really began six years ago, on Sept. 11, 2001. Not only was the U.S. attacked and seriously wounded, it did not bounce back the way “the land of the free and home of the brave” should have. In fact, it still suffers from post-traumatic stress.

    That day and its aftermath cried out for a revolution of values: a clear-eyed shared vision, a cooperative effort, a unified purpose. It cried out for a recognition that conventional warfare and conventional responses to domestic challenges in an era of globalization were not enough.

    That cry was not answered.

    Instead, the Bush administration embarked on an unconscionable plan to exploit the fear we all felt that day for political gain. It lied us into a disastrous war in Iraq, a staggering, record deficit at home, a weakening of the constitutional structure on which the country rests, and poisonous lines of division among Americans. It led us to a place where 81 percent of Americans say we’re on the wrong track.

    Contrary to Sen. Hillary Clinton’s campaign slogan, we believe Barack Obama is more likely to be “ready on Day One” to lead us in a new direction. Because of his experience.

    Sure, Clinton has more “experience” of a sort. For one thing, she has 14 more years on earth. How much of this experience is directly applicable to the job of president is, at best, debatable.

    We are frankly troubled by her assumption that her husband’s administration and accomplishments were her own. And if her equation holds, that the first spouse is an equal partner in the administration, then the reappearance of Bill Clinton in the White House is a prospect we have a hard time reconciling with the work that needs to be done.
    THERE IS a way to match Clinton’s and Obama’s performances on a relatively equal playing field: their campaigns.
    A candidate’s campaign may be the best indicator of how she or he will govern. If so, an Obama administration would be well-managed, inclusive and astonishingly broad-based. It would make good use of technology and communicate a message of unity and, yes, hope.
    It would not be content with eking out slim victories by playing to the narrow interests of the swing voters of the moment while leaving the rest of the country as deeply divided as ever. Instead, an Obama administration would seek to expand the number of Americans who believe that they have a personal stake in our collective future – and that they have the power to change things.
    It would motivate them to hold their representatives accountable for making it happen. That is, after all, the only way to get us out of Iraq, to address global warming, to make us energy-independent. It’s the only way to resist the forces arrayed against providing universal health care, rebuilding our infrastructure and returning our schools to world-class status. It’s the only way to give our children the means to compete with children in other parts of the world who are healthier, better-educated and have more opportunities than many of our own.

    An Obama administration would be freer of the the corrupting influence of big-money donors and corporate interests. Obama has raised $240 million overall, with half coming in contributions of less than $200. People who contribute to political campaigns can feel they “own” a candidate and so Obama would owe allegiance to the wide swath of America that has financed his campaign.

    Based on his experience in running a quarter-billion-dollar enterprise with thousands upon thousands of volunteers, we could expect an Obama administration to be well-managed and cost-effective, with the president choosing forward-thinking advisers committed to his program, demanding that they work as a team and pay attention to details.
    He would be steady and calm, given neither to irrational exuberance or outbursts of anger. He would make mistakes, that’s for sure, but he could be expected to recognize them, adjust, and move forward.

    He would adjust his views to reality rather than trying to adjust reality to his views.

    Obama’s unprecedented appeal to younger voters is significant not only because it expands the electorate, which is vital. It’s also a validation of his promise as a president to be free of the baby-boomer/Vietnam/segregation-era hangups.

    Younger people are more egalitarian, more accepting of diversity, and more comfortable with rapid change. They also are less confined by old resentments or regrets.
    AND AN OBAMA administration would lower the tone of the rhetoric that separates us.

    As New Mexico Gov. Bill Richardson has said, Obama is a once-in-a-lifetime candidate who has the skill and eloquence to help us raise our eyes and our aspirations beyond individual, personal concerns, beyond religion or region or race or gender, beyond our well-founded fears to a shared destiny.
    Most candidates claim that they will change the way business is done in Washington. Barack Obama has made us believe that, yes, he can. *

    • lifelong dem leaving party

      Obama’s unprecedented appeal to younger voters is significant not only because it expands the electorate, which is vital. It’s also a validation of his promise as a president to be free of the baby-boomer/Vietnam/segregation-era hangups.

      Younger people are more egalitarian, more accepting of diversity, and more comfortable with rapid change. They also are less confined by old resentments or regrets.
      AND AN OBAMA administration would lower the tone of the rhetoric that separates us.

      so basically they’re saying that older people have baby boomer/vietnam/segregation-era hangups, are not accepting of diversity (translate – racist), are not comfortable with change, are confined by old resentments and regrets, etc. good way to win over the voters over age 30 and to get obama past his calling us rubes….

      also, timing is very interesting given last night’s debate flop where obama was tied to vietnam era radicals and his ties to racist pastor wright whose has his own segregation-era hangups was brought up again. perhaps this paper didn’t watch the same debate?

      • lifelong dem leaving party

        sorry – i block quoted my remarks instead of those of the ridiculous article. technologically challenged. guess the obamakids would use that to add to their calling us stupid…

        • Independent

          Why do you think that Obama supporterss are
          ‘kids’?

          • lifelong dem leaving party

            oh i like looked at polls and stuff…

            on a more serious note, i do realize that not all obama supporters are kids. a high percentage are, however, and that is reflected in their juvenile posts on the many sites i visit.

            • workingclass artist

              LOL….add to that their command of the facts…Oh wait…

            • norrismorris

              The fawning adoration and an absence of dealing with factual information is “typical” of the kids who love treating BO like a rock star.
              There are intelligent adult fawners, too. But their posts show a deliberate willingness to overlook all of BO’s problems, and mention Clinton drawbacks defensively.They feel that no matter what his problems, he should be supported and any questioning of Obama is disloyal.

              Among AA’s, they are downright aggressively angry, and have threatened those among them who would DARE question Wonder Boy on anything.

              But last night, Obama was a pussy, and there’s no way around that.

              • workingclass artist

                Ehemmmmm…..As a woman….I prefer CANDYASS….Thankyou.

    • norrismorris

      Propoganda pure and simple.

      It’s a total puff piece.

      I love “the -once-in-a-lifetime candidate
      sell about “eloquence and skill”. What skill?

      Quick, if you don’t vote for Obama now, you’ll never have the priviledge again.

      Now, I understand BO wants NO more debates with Hillary [or probably even without her].

    • http://hyper-educated-uppity-woman.blogspot.com Uppity

      What a crock of crap this is. I could do hours on it. Breaking from the ‘past’? Barack Obama wants to bring us back to the loot and burn of the 60s. Only someone who wasn’t there wouldn’t recognize that. Barack Obama is a Marxist. He’s not Once In A lifetime at all. He’s Redux of every other socialist in history. his rallies were the only thing he could do well. His rallies are reminiscent of Hitler’s Youth Movement. No, not reminiscent…right out of the Playbook. He chants the same things over and over, identifies problems, offers no solutions. He is the master of cult leadership style. That is why he has his followers in enough of a frenzy to actually post death threats on youtube.

      His affiliations tell us the biggest story of all. His connections to Pakistan and the middle east tell us a much different tale. A tale of More War, with guns pointed in the other direction. Among his fundraisers is a PLO front man. His affiliations with Rezko reach all the way to the middle east. Why, he even has a campaign call center operating from Gaza City.

      Free of “big money”????? You need to read the archives here and learn of the NAMES of registered lobbyists who have been bundling for him. You need to check out his top ten contributors. They aren’t ‘little guys”. They are sub prime lenders and Wall street honchos. Goldman Sachs. JP Morgan. etc etc etc. Obama is a liar. The only difference between him and every other candidate is he takes money from Big Oil and Lobbys and he LIES about it.

      What do you need, a telephone pole on your head to see what is going on here?

  • Shibam8p

    I’m telling you. Barack is a marxist.

    The CHANGE that he is promising the country… is a political CHANGE, FROM A DEMOCRATIC FORM OF GOVERNMENT TO A SOCIALIST GOVERNMENT.

    BE WARNED!

    • http://hyper-educated-uppity-woman.blogspot.com Uppity

      I believe he is a Marxist too. His father was a marxist as well. In fact he wrote white papers on marxism for Africa. I strongly believe Obama is a marxist.

      Larry, we really need to do something with that Barak Obama the First’s writings, don’t you think?

  • Shibam8p

    IF YOU THINK THAT COMMUNISM IS GONE BECAUSE RUSSIA BROKEUP. THINK AGAIN. JUST LOOK AT NORTH VIETNAM, CUBA, CHINA AND THE COMMUNIST FRONTS IN THE PHILIPPINES.

    ALSO WHO IS FRANK MARSHALL DAVIS TO OBAMA?

  • ChrisXP

    Obama fans say! That’s a longggggg time ago!!! Barack was 8 years old! Ayers is a nice guy now! He hasn’t blown anything up lately or anything!

    Once a terrorist, always a terrorist.

    The mindset that rationalized killing anyone (because bombs in PUBLIC PLACES will harm anything in it’s path), is one of absolute extremism — “My way, or the highway.”

    Like with pedophilia, once it’s “hardwired” there’s no treatment to cure the disease.

    Terrorists are but angry tykes who, instead of picking up their marbles to take home, they wish to destroy them along with anyone else on the playground.

    It becomes a life long ideology. If they remain in public, they implant a new generation with seeds of their hate — takes no rocket science to deduct the real reason Ayers is a professor, after all. He must have disciples.

    The rising disciple of Ayers, is Obama.

    But in the same discussion about the Weather Underground, pardoning convicted felons of their crimes to kill Americans on their own soil as some political “solution”, is an insult to not only those who could’ve died, to the oath of office a president takes — to defend the Constitution from it’s enemies.

    This issue highlights what America dislikes with a passion about the Far-Left, and the excusing mentality that still exists in the Democrat party (and never coming to terms of it’s most radical and ugly past, that 40+ year-old generation remembers). If America is constantly reminded that the Democrat party is full of home grown terrorists (past and present), you can guarantee the brass ring of the presidency will be as relusive as meeting God Himself.

    This isn’t a chess game. When Democrats trade talking points to condemn one Weather Underground terrorist, but excusing the pardoning of two Weather Underground terrorists via Bill Clinton, they explain in detail the schizophrenic nature of the double-speak that Americans dislike with a passion — let alone telling the public how a excuses the Law of the land for political trinkets.

    We all live under one law of the land. Political parties that use terrorism as an excuse to change the Law, have zero business being a part of the government they hate so much to kill the very voters they are suppose to represent.

    Now instead of blaming Bush or 1001 stupid BS tactics of brain dead partisans, think of how to repair the damage, as once the GOP hammers this home, you can kiss the 2008 election goodbye. Get used to 2000 and 2004 all over again.

    Pick your poison. If you drink the wrong one, it’s no one else’s fault but the suicidal leadership that decided KOOK-Aide was more important to drink, than tap water.

  • Ron from S.F.

    I am confused and befuddled. I thought the Vietnam War ended decades ago (they won). For young people, we might as well be talking about the Peloponnesian War and why Athenians don’t like Spartans. I think ChrisXP is wrong. A terrorist can rehabilitate himself. Abbie Hoffman did it. Tom Hayden got elected to Congress. I am a Vietnam veteran and didn’t end up a baby-killer. We had a draft and 50,000 dead – more than twelve times what we have had in Iraq. When you can be pulled out of school, given a rifle and sent to ‘Nam, it tended to radicalize people. Not all of us got as many deferments as Dick Cheney. Or a safe job with the Texas Air National Guard. With the publication of the Pentagon Papers, we knew we couldn’t believe the government. But very few radicals continued such activities once the war was over. We all returned to our middle class lives.

    • lifelong dem leaving party

      hayden et al didn’t say in 2001 that they regretted not setting more bombs.

    • http://hyper-educated-uppity-woman.blogspot.com Uppity

      Ayers did not rehabilitate himself. He has publicly said he wouldn’t rule out more. He shows not only no remorse, but thinks he should have done more.

      Yes, it was decades ago but that doesn’t change who he is and what he did. How many of use would want to know him if we knew what he did? Would you bring him home to the family? Would any of us want our sisters or brothers to hang out with him?

  • repsac3

    Larry, my respect for you is gone…

    If I wanted to engage in this kinda character assassination & guilt by association, I’d be a ROVEr Republican.

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