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Hillary Demonstrates How Mature Candidates Handle Pressure + Clearer Video of Obama Giving Her the Finger [Update]

By SusanUnPC on April 18, 2008 at 10:20 AM in ABC News, Barack Obama, Hillary Clinton, Hoodwinking, Pennsylvania

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Clinton: “When the Going Gets Tough You Can’t Run Away”

(Time magazine’s blog top headline)

“We need a president who is going to be up there fighting every day for the American people and not complain about how much pressure there is, and how hard the questions are.”

THIS is how a mature, seasoned, ready-from-day-one candidate speaks about the difficulties of campaigning.

Via Time magazine’s The Page blog.

From Hillary’s interview today on the Fox 29 morning show in Philadelphia. Read more, including the quotes below:

HRC: We were both asked some pretty tough questions and that’s part of what happens in a debate and in a campaign. And I know he spent all day yesterday complaining about the hard questions he was asked. Being asked tough questions in a debate is nothing like the pressures you face inside the White House.

In fact, when the going gets tough, you just can’t walk away because we’re going to have some very tough decisions that we have to make. I think we need a president who can take whatever comes your way. You have to stand strong; you have to fight for the American people – because it will not be easy to stand up against the special interests.

Q: So you were fine with the debate, did you see any problem with it?

HRC: Well, can I say that I’ve been through, what 23 of these debates? And as I recall, I was asked some pretty tough questions in nearly every one of them.

That goes with the territory, having been inside the White House, I know the pressures inside the White House, I know how hard it is every single day. When the going gets tough you can’t run away. And it’s going to be tough going to deal with these hard problems; getting out of Iraq in the right way, turning the economy around, getting universal health care, ending our dependence on foreign oil.

The special interests are going to be a lot tougher than 90 minutes of questions from two journalists and we need a president who is going to be up there fighting everyday for the American people and not complain about how much pressure there is, and how hard the questions are.

We are digging up more on Barack Obama’s contrasting immaturity and shocking behavior. Stay tuned. Below is a better video than the original YouTube we put up last night. The point is that it is clearer — and an UPDATE from the Chicago Tribune:

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UPDATE: From the Chicago Tribune‘s blog, The Swamp:

Clinton: Obama’s ‘walk away” mentality

PHILADELPHIA –The fallout over Wednesday’s debate in Philadelphia continued this morning as Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton suggested to a local TV newscast that Sen. Barack Obama’s complaints about his questioning at the event displayed a “walk away” mentality “when the going gets tough.” …

See related news and blog stories at Memeorandum.
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Read our first report last night about the shocking behavior of Sen. Obama — not only towards Hillary Clinton but, quite honestly, towards all of us who support her.

This is not the first time Barack Obama has used “street” gestures and language to send a message to his followers.


“The one thing his voters can count on is that they will ultimately be disappointed.”

Der Spiegel had it exactly right.

  • http://thecommanderguy.blogspot.com/ The Commander Guy

    Holy $%^&.

    You people are serious about this B.S.

    And I had thought RED STATE trolls had taken over the comment secion on yesterday’s post.

    Whoa.

    • Strawberrybitch

      Hey Guy, remember the video where Bush flipped off the camera before he became president? If that video would have made the rounds on You Tube like this one, we probably wouldn’t be in Iraq today. Get it? We don’t need another vain, egotistical, spoiled child in the White House.

      • JKFriz

        Bit of a difference between this:

        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QpL6EIMShO4

        And this:

        http://www.mydd.com/comments/2008/4/18/102120/357/8#8

        Anyhow, believe what you want.

        • Strawberrybitch

          Sorry J, I took speech 101, and at this level of debate, you should know by now, not to make ANY GESTURE that might be mistaken for something rude. Add in the odd pauses and how he waits for the audience to react and it’s pretty damning. He’s a rude, petulant child and middle America will not be fooled or chided by the likes of a bunch of arrogant, rude Obama supporters. You’re proving our point about how rude you are just by being here. Just imagine how it looks to independants reading your comments. You’re in someone else’s home, kicking up your muddy feet on Larry’s coffee table. We’re not over at KOS raiding his fridge.

          • Shainzona

            You’re right. The “finger” could be a scratch but when you view it in total…the pause, the smirk, the exact point in his words where he flashes it (related specifically to Hillary), it was, indeed, flipping her off.

            You can’t spin away the total communication.

            • Salo

              It’s symptomatic of how little knowledge we have to go on with Obama.

              Obama’s actually very ascerbic and mean. We know he only functions with a formal televised speech with a riled up audience roaring approval–and that can’t handle a tough debate where he’s seriously challeneged or the oppoent is willing to embarrass him.

              McCain is actually much wittier than Obama in the debate format–but he’s average with a prapared script.

              McCain has a life long relationship with Russert Matthews Browkaw Rather Jennings Blitzer etc…Obama will definetely not be one of the lads once McCain strikes up a rapport with the moderators.

              All we have a are crumbs and snippets to evaluate.

              Also Obama has not really had 20 debates.
              He’s only been on in a three way or two way debate about 3 times.

              The 7 candidate debates were mainly about Biden and Kucinich hamming it up and haircuts.

              • Manamongst Hussein

                you people are sad…oh well what ever takes your mind off the trainwreck and eventual fall of The Hills.

                • formerobamasupporter

                  This is why I switched from Obama to Clinton. The tone of the emails these people exchange before they invade comments threads convinced me that his campaign is inauthentic and full of thugs.

                  • Manamongst Hussein

                    as he ignores the similar tone of hillbots…right you were a former supporter…

                    • formerobamasupporter

                      I am a former supporter, and I know you has put you and others up to what you are doing. Pure Astroturf. You are thugs.

                  • Catriley

                    That’s what drove me away from Obama, as well. When the primary started, I looked at all the candidates. I remembered Obama from the 2004 speech (I didn’t know that teleprompters and Axelrod’s words were his forte’ back then). So I gave the idea of Obama a whirl, thought it’d be pretty cool, as he was so different. Then I found my way back to John Edwards with Hillary leanings, then to Hillary 100% as John was exiting, and I was learning more about Hillary’s substance and character.

                    Obamacrats drove me from Democratic Underground, and I’m continually amazed by their venom, and how the MSM seems to be blithely ignorant of it. I think the Obama’s campaign has provided a haven for the thugs. I prefer witty, and occasionally snarky, conversation based on facts.

                • Fredster

                  I love what Riverdaughter put on her site concerning the visiting obamadroids:

                  Welcome to The Confluence! We are glad you stopped by. You have probably dropped in before but for some reason, today was the day you chose to comment. And, hey, we’re all for free speech and first amendment and all that. We know you have a choice of blogs to register your opinion. We would like to encourage you to exercise that choice and express your opinion somewhere else, especially if you insist on insulting us or our friends.

                  This is not censorship. Censorship would be a situation where I am deleting your comments and you had nowhere else to post them. This is not the case. I am deleting you because you are rude and obnoxious and you have plenty of other places to go to be rude and obnoxious. You can go to DailyKos, Talkingpointsmemo, HuffingtonPost or any number of other sites where you will feel more at home and we will feel more comfortable. There are places and times to behave badly and The Confluence is not one of those places. Likewise, the campaign trail in North Carolina was probably not the best place for Obama to make rude and obnoxious gestures (note the plural), especially right before a high-stakes primary. If you feel he might have gone too far, you might want to have a talk with HIM, not US.

                  If you go elsewhere, we will not be offended. Rest assured, we know what your position is (anti-Clinton) and we can predict with relatively good precision what you would like to say. So, there is no reason to belabor your point here. But keep it up everywhere else! The material you are providing is priceless and, indeed, we wouldn’t be here today without all of your efforts.

                  Oh, by the way, thanks for the confirmation that we have really struck a nerve. Your comments are hillariously funny. I can almost read the flop sweat.

                  Thanks and have a nice day.

            • JKFriz

              Except for the fact that flashing two fingers is a pretty inept way of flipping her off. Look again at the screen capture.

              I believe that if he spread the two fingers, that would be the UK equivalent of flipping the bird. Look into that!

              Next!

              • MessyMarcy

                “pretty inept way of flipping her off”

                So who said he was “ept”?

              • Catriley

                You might want to get your eyes checked. Double vision is often a sign of deep neurological problems.

                it’s one finger.

            • Whatever

              But let’s say that he did have an itch on his face that he just had to scratch. Okay. You know, if he’s not going to own the gesture, then he doesn’t need to get the cred for it either.

              If you’re on the street and you get busted and have to back down, then, well…let’s just say it says something about you, and it’s not good.

              So let’s give him a pass on his itch. But what about the gyration? You know, when he said that Hillary just had to get her digs (low down fist) in? Is that what we want the President of the United States to be doing?

              Seems to me that a gifted orator can accomplish what he needs to accomplish with his oratory skills. What does it say to you about Obama, that he has to resort to vulgar gestures to make a point? It says to me that he’s not ready to be President of the United States.

              • Manamongst Hussein

                In case you were wondering…yes you do sound silly.

                but…Whatever!

                • formerobamasupporter

                  If you think this is bad, just read the letters these Obama supporters exchange before invading comments threads. This is why I no longer support Obama. These people are thugs.

                  • Manamongst Hussein

                    buzz…?

                    well hillbots are welcomewherever…last time I check good ole larry said you didn’t own this site either…so as much as you’d like to bubblfy yourself like Bush from inconvienient REALITIES…he’s hoping you find republican voting experience what you want…

                    • MessyMarcy

                      No difference between voting for republican and voting for Obama. As I said here yesterday, Bush, Obama and McCain are three of a kind. The only difference is that McCain when a POW had the fortitude to refuse an early release, thus putting the welfare of those who had been there longer ahead of his own needs. Obama and Bush would have been out of there before you could flip anyone the bird.

                  • MessyMarcy

                    Yes, and from the number of them that are out trolling today, they must for some reason be really worried. This was just a silly, childish gesture from a silly, childish brat who would, if he had any real concern for the Democratic Party, drop out now and let the qualified, competent Hillary Clinton be our nominee. But I guess Howard Dean will continue to prop him up and try to strongarm (or buy) automatic delegates into supporting his Chosen One in spite of all of Obama’s recent gaffes.

              • Jeff

                “But what about the gyration? “

                Truly, the last gasp of the Clinton campaign.

                • JKFriz

                  “But what about the gyration? “

                  Gyration? Did someone forward her clips of Elvis on Ed Sullivan instead of Obama?

      • Manamongst Hussein

        it did slowpoke

    • http://noratings.blogspot.com/ Bud White

      Remember when the Giant Ego named Markos claimed the Clinton team had darkened a picture of Obama?

      Did you call him crazy? No, because your brain swims in Kool-Aid.

      • workingclass artist

        I thought that second clip was great…Obamapuppet….

      • Manamongst Hussein

        No because he had EVIDENCE…remember that word.

        • Recall Obama Now ( formerly known as ces)

          debunked

      • rwc

        But that Berzerkly elitist was shilling for the messiah and that makes any lies and censorship at his blog ok.

    • Nathan

      You are the epitome of PROJECTION. The only freeper-like trolls are Obama fanboys.

      • Manamongst Hussein

        You do know that you guys are the equivalent of that 28% still up on Bush’s jock right?

        • formerobamasupporter

          This is the reason why I switched from Obama to Clinton. Listen to the tone of this comment. These Obama supporters exchange emails and ask each other to type comments such as these. They enjoy it. They are thugs. They are out of touch.

        • MessyMarcy

          You got that wrong — 28% is the percentage of voters in Idaho who would support Obama in the GE.
          Or maybe it’s the percentage of Howard Dean’s brain that’s still working. Or maybe you just thought of it because Obama has about a 28% chance of ever being elected President after this sorry excuse of a campaign. Maybe you should spend your time more wisely by going and trying to explain to him that insulting people usually doesn’t make them want to vote for you.

  • Manamongst Hussein

    Susan please…

    let’s try to limit the level of straw grasping as well as embarrassment for yourself. Other sites call you folks bats#%$ crazy over here. The level of projection is insane. He clearly scratched hi face. At what point should we expect you to endorse McCain? Because at the level of haterade being gulped by you larry and Taylor…he could give you an organ to save your life and you’d still vote McCain. And also this is probably more a question for Larry, but that Ad you have for that vanity book that Taylor has out depicting Obama as a facist. How exactly is he a facist? And is McCain a better person that BO?

    • http://hyper-educated-uppity-woman.blogspot.com Uppity

      This guy could drown a bunch of kittens and puppies on prime time TV and you “hussein” cultists would still worship him.

      • Manamongst Hussein

        ok right…I guess given her track record this election season I could say the same thing to you. She could lie to you about pretty much anything and you’d find a way to justify it.

        In REALITY he’s gaining voters, yours is hemoraging votes. So everyone who hates hillary or is voting for BO are brainwashed…you all are the chosen ones. Right. Get a grip and face the facts.

        • http://hyper-educated-uppity-woman.blogspot.com Uppity

          Get a grip on this.
          Obama will never be president. And you helped not make it happen.

          Keep in touch with yourself.

          • Manamongst Hussein

            So that means Hillary’s chances are worse than NEVER?

            You do realize she’s the one losing smartguy/Nostradamus?

            • MessyMarcy

              If she’s losing, why is Obama so afraid to let the people of FL and MI have their votes counted? Only Obama and Dean (and Rove and Axelrod) would think it acceptable to win by disenfranchising a huge number of voters. And from the desperation in your comments, you must be really worried he won’t be winning anyway. Are the automatic delegates not listening to Dean so much anymore? Have they decided they would like to actually try to win this fall so will be saying “no thanks” to your deity? Where do they get off thinking the party is more important than Obama? If I were you, I’d rush off to tell Oprah on them. Maybe she’ll send someone over to give them the finger.

              • Manamongst Hussein

                Right, he’s the reason FL can’t vote.

                the willful ignorance…

                • MessyMarcy

                  “the willful ignorance” — Yes, it’s truly amazing he has gotten this far with so little knowledge, experience or talent. Seems like his only trick is that pseudo-Jedi mind trick he uses on all you Obamabots.

        • http://bluespotblog.com Marc1A

          Not surprising since most media outlets have decided they’re in love with Obama. With all the negative press Hillary gets, it’s a wonder she hasn’t already lost the lead in PA and that all the remaining SD’s have not pledged their support to Obama. You guys think the questions were tough the other day. Welcome to Hillary’s world. I’d love to see the look on your face when you finally realize that he’s just another politician and not God’s gift to politics. Get prepared for a giant letdown.

          • Manamongst Hussein

            After your emminent Hillary letdown you can come back here and explain to us how we’ll be letdown.

            Your whole esscence is negative…your girls not gonna win so you wanna break stuff…entitlement is a funny thing. I guess you were never really entitled when you don’t get what you want…but I guess you’re old enough for your wants not to hurt.

            • Mel

              Is this the afternoon toting from Axelrod, kind of lame ones actually, but that is ok, you children said Clinton was gone after Texas and Ohio, wrong wrong wrong!

              Did your dunce cap fit then, bring it out again, you’ll be needing it!

            • MessyMarcy

              “your girls not gonna win so you wanna break stuff…”

              I really don’t mean it as an insult when I say I doubt you are willing or capable of doing this, but I would like to, instead of just exchanging barbs, discuss your remark cited above. I have never heard or seen a Hillary supporter threatening violence over the outcome of this contest. Unfortunately, I have read many comments from Obama supporters doing just that. Are you one of those who threatens to riot in Denver if your guy doesn’t get the nom? I would guess that from the reported behavior of his followers in caucuses and from his association with Ayres, Obama thinks this is a perfectly acceptable thing to do, and Howard Dean may be spineless enough to be trying to give Obama the nomination to avoid any such violence, but I doubt most Democrats want to have their nomination hijacked by violent means. What’s your opinion on this?

              • http://bluespotblog.com Marc1A

                Judging by their reaction to Tavis Smiley, who hasn’t even made an endorsement, I’d say many Obama supporters are quite capable of such a disruption.

                • MessyMarcy

                  Has there been a post on this blog discussing how credible the threats to riot at the convention are? Most of the Obamatrolls sound like cowardly little bullies who are full of bravado only while seated at the keyboard, but there are a few reasons I worry about this. First, Howard Dean and the other party elders other than the Clintons are not known for the sturdiness of their spines, so I worry they might cave to such threats just to avoid any possibility Obama followers might make good on the threats. Second, as I said above, when you consider the behavior of Obama’s followers at caucuses and his association with Ayres, it seems credible he might try something like this (when disenfranchisement doesn’t work, try rioting). And last, a lot of his followers just seem totally nuts.

                  If there has not been a post on this, could Larry Johnson do one assessing how credible the threats are. It’s a sad day when a faction of the Democratic Party is threatening to emulate those republican goons in Florida.

            • http://bluespotblog.com Marc1A

              You totally misunderstood what I meant by letdown. He might in fact win, but the letdown will be when you people realize he’s not Jesus Christ. He’s a politician and a good one at that. But he has still not proven he would be a good governor. When he makes that first big mistake or when his past comes back to bite him, or when he finally breaks one of his promises, it’s going to be like watching junkies come off a high. Just like when many Republicans first realized they made a mistake by voting for Bush.

        • jes

          I’ve gotta suggestion for you. Take your nasty vindictive little remarks that come from your from your tiny Obamabot brain and stick them where the sun doesn’t shine.

          • Manamongst Hussein

            yeah Ill do that right away…hope you feel better!

            Cheer-up it’s friday and your girl’s still in the race.

            When she quits it’ll be a surprise not like the FatBoys breaking up but you’ll get over it…

            Here’s an idea…write her in as a candidate, then we can go on McSame sites and pretend that we’re disgruntled McCain fans jumping ship to Hillary…you know, whatever it takes to win…RIGHT?

            • jes

              Obviously you don’t know how to read English. But what else can one expect from a moron? Since you need me to clarify, I will. Stick it up your ass, idiot.

        • http://thehorizontalworld.blogspot.com/ Mary Jo Kopechne

          Manlostinthedarkness, Why don’t you go play with your other little friends? All sing Kumbaya my Lord….

    • stodghie

      oh geez, obama gave hillary the finger. duh! get over yourself. you look really pathetic. that idiotic gesture alone tells me he isn’t fit to be senator much less president. my cat georige would make a better president.

      • JKFriz

        http://www.mydd.com/comments/2008/4/18/102120/357/8#8

        Obama was in fact scratching his face with two fingers. I’m sorry to be so one-note about this, but some of you folks just don’t get it. There are legitimate criticisms of each candidate in the race, and some of them even – gasp – make a difference to anybody at all. Tuzla, Ferraro, Wright, Rezko, this – it’s all manufactured controversy. This site has a great deal of complicity in helping the media manufacture it, as does Daily Kos, lord knows.

        • http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/04/18/clearer-video-of-obama-giving-hillary-the-finger/#more-2217 waldenpond

          Go over to Matt Yglesias’ site. What do you think of the wipe the filth off the shoulders trick? How about the wipe the shit off the shoes trick? Both of these gestures are immitating other videos. You disagree with whether or not he flipped her off but I see you conveniently choose to ignore he gestured (called) Clinton filth and shit. That’s some candidate you’ve got yourself.

          • JKFriz

            It’s “brush that dirt off your shoulders,” actually, and the implication is not that he’s brushing Hillary herself off his shoulders (which, if you think about it, doesn’t make sense at all), but rather that when people fling mud at you, you get up and brush your shoulders off.

            If you want to be outraged over this, be my guest. I might suggest, though, that you have more productive battles to pick with Obama.

            • MessyMarcy

              I don’t care if he gave her the bird. I care that he is such an immature (at almost fifty years old!) sorehead that he would resort to such childish behavior just because she bested him in a debate. Thank goodness even if he got the nomination he would be trounced in the GE. And thank goodness he’s doing more and more stuff like this at an ever increasing rate so it’s looking less and less likely he’ll get the nomination, even with all of Uncle Howie’s help.

          • Manamongst Hussein

            filth…? Oh you made that up…maybe you should brush your shoulders off…?

        • bert

          If it had just been that one gesture, you MIGHT be able to make the argument that he was just scratching his face.

          But to see what he was really up to you have to look at the entire routine. And it WAS a finely tuned well rehearsed and practiced routine. From the little pinkie to the corner of his mouth, to the finger, to the sweeping his shoulders, to the fist, and to his leg and shoes. Add to it the “gotcha’ grin, the exquisitely timed pauses, and the jeering cheers from the audience and you have one gigantic juvenile, immature flipping the bird at a U.S Senator and former First Lady. I guess Obama’s new role model is Dick Cheney.

          All this because he was bested by a woman in a debate where he proved he cannot handle the pressures of the job. As some one else here posted, he could not take her on during the debate when he was standing next to her face to face becasue he is a coward. And so he had to mock her and denigrate her from miles away.

          It was a shameful display for someone running for POTUS under a banner of CHANGE and HOPE.

          I HOPE I never have to deal with his type of CHANGE.

          • JKFriz

            I guess scratching his face with his pinky means he’s secretly Dr. Evil? Or am I misreading your wonderful interpretation of his performance. DO tell.

            • Salo

              The gestures were all part of a performance.

              Obama is a lecturer. He’s also doing dana=mage control from a rubbish debate performance.

              So he’s sticking one to Clinton.

              • Jeff

                “He’s also doing dana=mage control from a rubbish debate performance.

                What on earth is “dana-image”?

      • Manamongst Hussein

        ahhh welcome back mr. stick my fingers in my ears and yell Hillary is my copilot.

    • grtphoto

      simply stay on your own blogs is this is so annoying to you. simple. don’t read it.

      • Manamongst Hussein

        This is an intervention…typically the afflicted don’t realize how far they’ve fallen. Seriously, this time last year what blog did you frequent..TownHall.com?

        Little Green Footballs?

        I’ve been here before you buddy, this hasn’t always been a Hillary schlep-site…the nerve and lack of perspective that the world would allow you a bubble of ignorance. You don’t have the Bush kind of cash to allow yourself said bubble…so get over it and go back to you wingnut welfare site yourself.

        INTERVENTION!!!

        • jwrjr

          No. This is a moron. As the public face of BHO here he is reminding everybody who sees his posts why electing BHO would be a disaster.

          • Manamongst Hussein

            they may need you to explain that one…as no one is really into clear thoughts here.

            • jwrjr

              The only ones who will need for me to explain my comment are the trolls. The regular residents here are smart ehough to figure out exactly what I meant.

    • Mechan

      Listen up Manamongst Hussein

      I could give a damn what the “followers of the Messiah” think…you got that! …Your candidate and his followers frighten the bejesus out of me and if Jesus himself came down, he will never, ever get my vote…He’s a very dangerous man who has no class whatsoever…as a matter of fact, he’s a gutless wonder…I would love to see him do the same thing to Senator McCain (flip the bird)…I guarantee you this spineless wonder would not have the, well…you know what I mean..

      • Manamongst Hussein

        It should be fairly obvious at this point we don’t need your vote. Tht could be the problem though you have seriously discounted the 1.3+ million people who…according to many of you are brainwashed into supporting him…I mean seriously…listen to yourself…you don’t believe he is that enchanting do you?

        We can’t help you’re scared of change…or even scared of him. That sounds like some personal issue that you need to work through buddy..we don’t have time to hold your hand and bottom line…WE DON’T NEED YOUR VOTE, doesn’t seem like we’ve ever had your democratic vote anyhoo. So take your Glen Beck ass to the McSame camp and make it a not so terrible loss for old robot man.

        you’re not that important pal.

        sorry to break it to ya…but it had to be said.

        • http://hyper-educated-uppity-woman.blogspot.com Uppity

          HE WILL NEVER BE PRESIDENT.

        • Catriley

          LOL. There it’s been said. The don’t “need” our vote. Then fuck ‘em.

          Good luck winning in November without Hillary’s supporters asshole.

          Have you people ever actually been through an election cycle before? I mean.. you DO know that there is stuff that comes after the nomination. I mean.. you KNOW that, right?

          My, my, things must be getting pretty desperate for Obama if his flying monkeys seem to be populating our water cooler. Whenever he screws up, and that’s often, the flying monkeys come knocking.

          • Mechan

            flying monkey’s….love it…and….and….how about this….doesn’t the “evil one” remind you of…..”Curious George”….something about the ears!

            • Manamongst Hussein

              That’s deep, what are you 10?

          • Manamongst Hussein

            Nah buddy we’re just here to help those who wanna be helped. You’re more than welcome to do your republican tango this fall…but do remember just because you voted for Kerry doesn’t mean WE NEED YOU BUDDY, there 2 republicans seeing the light for every one of you and there ARE 6 new people of new voting age for every pathetic one of you…this is life matters and nothing personal…if worse came to worse I’d hold my nose and vote for hillary. That’s party discipline, not that crybaby life of priviledge antics that you all seem so determined to employ. I can see you lying about your vote four years from now as well.

            You’d think hillary was the best candidate in the world!!!

            Not so much…

        • jes

          You are the one who is deluded if you think that he doesn’t need our votes to win the presidency.

          What is his base? Let’s see, MI and FL are off the table because he diesenfranchised their vote. Odds are they’ll go Repug. Blacks are only 10% of the population. Even assuming that 100% of them vote, he can’t win.

          What’s left? The wine track and Republicans? Well, the wine track, many of whom live in red states that will go Republican, can’t pull it off. I wouldn’t count on the Repugs. They could go for McCain, and many of them live in red states, too.

          Obama can’t win the Dem blue states that are Hillary territory. And, he’s insulted the base by by calling them bigots.

          I’d say that if he wins the nomination he’s up the creek without a paddle.

          Maybe he can use his middle finger instead? All the rest of us can stand on the side-lines and laugh at the spectacle.

          • Manamongst Hussein

            You think you’ll get Jewish votes…lol

            you think Jewish people are idiots or what? That they’d employ your foolish logic in voting…they don’t have your fatalist love of murder suicides. The most you’d ever get was the Jackie Mason crowd. Jews want change he and in Israel…Clinton is obviously more of the same on the conflict…
            Every single one of your plans is contingent on constituent stupidity!

            MI and FL are rightfully blaming their state Dems for this stupidity…apparently you’ve swallowed a gang of Taylor Marsh’s anecdotal stories. Of voter anger at Obama…anyone with a clear mind knows where blame should be placed.

            • jes

              Oh, are you Jewish? Couldn’t tell by your name.

              And where are you going with this weird murder/sucide thing? And Jackie Mason? What does any of this have to do with my comments?

              You know, the problem with you Obamabots is that you can’t win a logical argument so you say ridiculous things in return that are totally illogical.

              And if you are so delusional that you think Obama will win MI & FL, after refusing to allow the DNC to count their votes, then go for it.

              • Manamongst Hussein

                My bad…you were the one that speaks for all Judaism.

        • SDean

          He does not *need* our vote? Get real buddy because he does need Florida’s vote and he will never get it. This man has no chance whatsoever.

          Scream foul all you like. Thugs love to try intimidation. But when the GE comes, BO will be slam dunked back to the streets of Chicago. You OB folk really don’t see the damage you are causing to your own candidate.

          Mccain will be the next president, and you OB thugs need only look in a mirror to see why.

          • Manamongst Hussein

            sure have fun with that…

        • mimi

          “It should be fairly obvious at this point we don’t need your vote.”

          This is the part that is SO laughable. The are so bumped up on ego and kool-aid they have forgotten simple basic math!
          The nice part about math is that it’s not subject to opinion. 1+1=2 cannot be altered.

          WIN WITHOUT ME!

          • Manamongst Hussein

            well you have fun subtracting Supers Friedman!

            do that math!

    • Shainzona

      Your concern is so misplaced. Kind of like “Hillary should just quit now”.

      It won’t work for her. It won’t work for those of us here at No Quarter.

      • Manamongst Hussein

        She can stay as long as she likes…

        it’ll only make her look bad. And you thought Huckabee was a hump…he’s got 10x the honor than her. And that’s hard for me to say. regardless I’ll never tell her dumbass to quit…McSame is easy work…but you guys here wouldn’t know that because you have very little grasp of the issue that AMERICANS care about.

        how about that bump for Hillary in PA…not!

    • http://noquarterusa.net/ SusanUnPC

      Of course, it is notable that you are unable to address the CONTENT of the story above:

      That Obama whined and complained yesterday — trying to blame EVERYBODY but himself for his poor performance Tuesday night and for his inability to truthfully answer questions, instead dodging and weaving.

      Hillary is pointing out that she’s been the subject of constant, bruising attacks not just from people of your ilk but also the MSM.

      But, let’s not go there, of course. Instead, let’s attack the messenger. MORE immature behavior from the Obamabots that we are accustomed to. It is sad. But there it is.

      • Manamongst Hussein

        Susan no one is denying he complained,we’re wallowing in the irony of Hillary and her ilk(you) who are suspending memory of the NUMEROUS complaints by you and the bots of the simplest of things earlier…like who goes first in a debate.

        And your point of Hillary “pointing out that she’s been the subject of constant, bruising attacks not just from people of your ilk but also the MSM.” sounds like complaining the last time I checked.

        This Intervention is for you too Susan…Will you accept our help?

        and way to veil your “article” (if you call it that) as a commentary on complaints when it’s really about you needing an eye exam…way to save face…

        • MessyMarcy

          The Obamabot inadvertently complimented you — called you Hillary’s “ilk.”

          His candidate, on the other hand, is a whiny, thin-skinned, childish little crybaby — which makes Manamongst Hussein — Obama’s ilk.

  • Jeff

    Yep, absolutely pathetic. There is simply no way he was flipping anyone off. But it doesn’t matter. This whole episode reveals much, much more about the desperation of her campaign, and this website, than it does about the serious, substantive nature of how Barack chooses to scratch his face.

    • Manamongst Hussein

      Well said!

    • Manamongst Hussein

      Well said!

      Of course we could be fickle and critique the desperate purchase of yellow pantsuits or the many faces of her trainwreck hairdo’s or the gucci bags under her eyes…but that would be childish and she deserves more rest than she’s gotten over the past months, she really shouldn’t be wasting all this effort ruining her career.

      And contrary to many people’s views this was a semi-normal site before…so who are the real trolls.

      So all you Marshians and and Hillbots please, just say out of the way of our intervention for Susan and Larry-Lar.

      We love you all!

      • http://hyper-educated-uppity-woman.blogspot.com Uppity

        No You Can’t!

        Win without us!

        Win without Italians, Jews, A boatload of white women over 25, gays, and small town America. See how well that works out for you.

        • Iphie

          Not to mention Latinos, and Catholics, and blue-collar workers and — oh, right the Democratic base!

          • workingclass artist

            African Americans make up 13% of the national population and he does’nt have all of them either

          • http://hyper-educated-uppity-woman.blogspot.com Uppity

            I’m sorry! The list is SO long, I forget!

          • Manamongst Hussein

            Latinos?

            where have you been…they went with the stench of name recognition…you folks really are in trouble if you’re depending on Latinos…lol

            Catholics???? what are you talking about…you’re bout as right as Bill Kristol

            next you’ll be saying you have the Buddist Monk vote, and lets not forget that Scientology vote, NAACP, Swedish, Vietnamese, Cuba, Venezuelan, FOX News, Hannity, Brit Hume, Ken Starr and Monica Lewinsky, Clarence Thomas vote.

            You better be happy with that DLC Harold Ford Jr. Steny Heuyer vote…

            News Flash you have to do more for blue collar workers than say you’re for BCW’s to get the BCW’s vote. This isn’t 1992, even white folk aren’t going for the bananna in the tailpipe. How on earth do you explain Hillary’s negatives going up after this past two weeks?

            MSM??? you sound like a wingnut…

        • Manamongst Hussein

          Yeah and this Uppity idiot thinks that every demographic known to man is on their side…

          Obviously you think Italians, Jews, A boatload of white women over 25, gays, and small town America are STUPID. Everyone except the gay elitist 1200$ a ticket elton johns, closeted Jonah Goldbergs and elderly are the only likely votes you’ll get.

          News flash, most people aren’t as ignorant as you. We can’t afford Hillary anymore…you wanna do her a favor…move into her voting district in NY.

          THIS IS AN INTERVENTION…please move out of the way.

          • http://hyper-educated-uppity-woman.blogspot.com Uppity

            No I don’t think they are stupid at all Hussein number 5037. I think they are pissed. And they won’t be moving out of the way. General Elections don’t run like Caucuses, Hussein number 7356. Adults don’t let children like you pick presidents. just ask George McGovern. And his sycophants weren’t nearly as offensive.

            You NEED an intervention.

      • Strawberrybitch

        Demanding little trollop, aren’t you? “Stay out of our way”? Please don’t take this the wrong way “sweetie’ but suck my left one. And FYI, I was a Clark supporter. I just couldn’t stand the way Obama supporters piled on Hillary in such a childish manner.

        • Manamongst Hussein

          Well we’re glad to see that Clark bet worked out for you…

          • http://hyper-educated-uppity-woman.blogspot.com Uppity

            Wait till you see how well Obama works out for you.

            • Manamongst Hussein

              I can’t wait!

              “THIS IS GREAT NEWS FOR HILLARY!!!”

      • Fleaflicker

        so who are the real trolls.

        That would be you. And the rest of you cultists.

        • http://hyper-educated-uppity-woman.blogspot.com Uppity

          Hey Flea. Is this McGovern on steroids or what?

          I’m cracking up here. What did McGovern end of getting, 38% in the general. Boy were those pisspots mad when all the adults when with…..ugh..Nixon of all people. You and I know what’s going to happen here. Four years lost is far better than this marxist.

          • Manamongst Hussein

            wOW AND mCgOVERN WASN’T EVEN BLACK….

            that means BO will be at 28%

            you’re dating your self with your ignorance and political references.

            That would put you in the Hillary AARP voting block…

            nice to meet ya codger!

      • http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/04/18/clearer-video-of-obama-giving-hillary-the-finger/#comment-195809 Peter

        Oh you could but you won’t, typical freak Obama follower,… you are as frigging pathetic as that lousy excuse for a candidate you have chosen to worship. People can’t stand your ilk or your candidate. He’s a sleazy Chicago politician and he will have a hard time getting elected without the independents, moderates and a large number of Dems. I can’t wait to to sit back and watch the Repubs slime him and show him as the jerk he is.

        Come in to the light, come in to the light and hook up the IV so you can pump in the kool-aid. Obama freaks have gone so far off the deep end, they must be lacing their kool-aid.

        • Manamongst Hussein

          sometimes koolaid is just koolaid.

          I’m glad you’re an expert on Illinois politics.

          don’t hate congratulate

        • Mechan

          Well said Peter…
          These “kids” don’t have a clue about their candidate other than the fact that he “jives”..knows Hip-hop, can talk the slang, walks like a “zut suiter”…and knows how to throw the finger…Big Man on Campus…that’s why they identify with him…ask them what he stands for…they can’t tell you..

          As a well seasoned male ccommentator said just recently…”when he whines, he embarassed me as a man”…..powerful stuff…

          • Catriley

            but but.. he has a RINGTONE! OMG! He is soooo sick.

            I have to just laugh my ass off at these people going crazy over a middle aged guy in a suit. It’s rather embarrassing really.

          • Jeff

            “walks like a “zut suiter”…”

            It’s zoot suit…and judging from your take on “the kids”, your youth was spent some time before the Second World War.

        • Manamongst Hussein

          note our republican cross-overs will stay, you’re as you know are just playing pretend…why because they still believe in the mess that is conservatism. Why don’t all of you get together and write hillary in!

          don’t be jealous…even cross-over wouldn’t vote for the Hill…for some reason they hate her ass…

          don’t blame Barack for reaping what Hillary Sowed.

      • http://hyper-educated-uppity-woman.blogspot.com Uppity

        Yeah well love you too. Like we love rats and snakes.

      • tam

        //Of course we could be fickle and critique the desperate purchase of yellow pantsuits or the many faces of her trainwreck hairdo’s or the gucci bags under her eyes//

        You should take your sexist, personal attacks elsewhere. You have shown your immaturity and blind faith to an empty suit candidate.

        Have fun trying to win without the Democratic base, and MO, OH, PA, MI, FL, NM, AR, etc.

        • http://hyper-educated-uppity-woman.blogspot.com Uppity

          Hush. Let them do it. Makes a great screen capture to send to the DNC with their contribution request.

        • Manamongst Hussein

          right lady, what I gave was an example of sexist comments I could have endorsed had I been of the Clinton ilk of attack politics. last time I checked we won MO…and NM MI and PA will be too close to even matter. We’re wide awake and winning… don’t hate you try waking up!

    • stodghie

      he was flipping her off. darn right he was. i am sure never never land is fun but the hot air balloons have to come back to earth. your candidate will be a has been this time last year and it will be barrack who?

      • Manamongst Hussein

        right…balloons are for kids. Tell your girl to come with something people need in life…we’re tired of carrying her water…tell her to go be a fighter in her district…that’ll be quite enough…how’s that 20 state strategy working? If you would have it to do again, and you told her to challenge him in every state do you think she would listen to yall’s ass…nope!

        she’s a fighter…and she’ll fight her own till the bitter end!

        She won’t even listen to you guys on that train wreck of a strategist…she played HR games to fool you twits but alas, she’s fighting it her way screw you guys…

        you real dems better recognize!

        • pennsylvaniamother

          I recognize Obama does not offer universal health care.

          • Manamongst Hussein

            great recognition…Hillary offers it…that is if you consider astro turf real grass!!

        • Mechan

          Say what you may kiddo…come Tuesday evening, we’ll see who has the last laugh….keep drinking the Kool-Aid!

    • Nathan

      That’s why the audience reacted with applause–because he was scratching his cheek?! Right.

      • Fleaflicker

        Well they did applaud once when he blew his nose. Cultists are funny folk that way. I heard they had someone on staff to bottle his farts.

        • http://hyper-educated-uppity-woman.blogspot.com Uppity

          I bet somebody asked if they could have his snot rag.

          • Recall Obama Now ( formerly known as ces)

            snot rag or shroud of barack?

      • http://hyper-educated-uppity-woman.blogspot.com Uppity

        It must be getting tiring in bussing all those special people in these days, don’t you think?

        • Mechan

          and the funny part of all the bushing people…they all look alike….hum!

      • Manamongst Hussein

        I guess listening is fundamental too!!!

  • Manamongst Hussein

    Not to mention your links from progressive blogs are dropping as fast as Hill’s Superdel votes.

    • simon, too

      You know, you were warned.

      When you wake up in a few days, and find yourself in deeper shit, which you will, given pattern, well, this is it, in action.

      But you don’t get it.

    • http://hyper-educated-uppity-woman.blogspot.com Uppity

      Well my goodness, Hussein Number 4007, then why bother coming here if we have no effect on anybody?

      • Manamongst Hussein

        because you just don’t have the fight you used to…that typically happens when facts on the ground aren’t congruent to you gum flappin.

  • Jeff

    Isn’t it hilarious how the first comments out of the gate on this nonsense are from people like myself, The Commander Guy, and Manamongst Hussein, who are utterly baffled by the level to which “No Quarter” has descended?

    What’s next, video proof of Obama picking his nose?

    • http://hyper-educated-uppity-woman.blogspot.com Uppity

      Yes. It is hilarious.

      • http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/04/18/clearer-video-of-obama-giving-hillary-the-finger/#comment-195823 Peter

        Obamabots are just tired of listening to themselves. They get bored with their mediocre minds and agreeing with each other. They can only snigger at their pathetic selves for so long so they go around infesting other sites. They swarm news networks, websites, politicians and think they are making a ‘statement’ about taking back govt and all they are doing is repeatedly pouting and tantruming. Tedious new generation.

        They can’t stand that others have bailed on them so they travel around sniveling about everybody picking waaahhhhh boo hoo on the ONE.

        • Manamongst Hussein

          Well how about this:

          why don’t you troll some probama sites and have facts back-up with links to real articles instead of your silly Hopes.

          It’s ironic that the hopehaters are so dependent on it at this point…

    • Xeno

      What’s really hilarious is that you and the rest of Obama’s micropenis cultists feel compelled to troll the net the way you do. If you need something constructive to do, check out some of those penis-enlargement scams clogging your in-boxes. Or maybe you can get the Obamessiah to lay his hands on you. There is hope for a change in your condition, if you believe….

      • Manamongst Hussein

        ahhh…no thanks I like the lightweights here…thank you very much.

        What’s Hillary for today…

        oh that’s right it’s all about Obama…and you wondering why people are coming to him instead of her. Stop sending you people to us converting…I mean it’s to difficult to comment on stuff there with the posts being in the multiple thousands. It’s a lot easier to troll here…and hey I might find some people that aren’t about bashing americas hope for the benefit of their esablishment candidate.

  • JKFriz

    OK, AGAIN:
    http://www.mydd.com/comments/2008/4/18/102120/357/8#8

    Two fingers. Case closed. Please feel free to retract.

    • Jeff

      It’s sad that you had to post that. It’s sadder that I actually had to look at it, just to confirm the obvious truth–that Barack was indeed, not flipping anyone off. I’m clicking the link, and I’m like, “oh my God, some stupid part of me actually needs proof that Barack didn’t flip anyone off. What on earth has come of our democracy?”

      Still, I’m glad you posted it. I hope the 9 year-olds here will bother to take a look. It will take all of 3 seconds folks, and you can go back to chanting “Rezko”, “Ayers”, or whatever else you like.

      • stodghie

        obama makes it very clear he is giving the finger and knocking the dusting the msm off. maybe you think that is cool in never never land, but i think he looks like a daxx fool. so don’t try that pathetic spin. he wants it to be seen and known and the crowd lets him know they do. why can’t ole barrack be man enough to get right up there and say it for real? why does he have to hide and rile the youngbots up? hmmm! that is so not presidential.

    • http://hyper-educated-uppity-woman.blogspot.com Uppity

      Oh myDD. There’s an accurate source.

      • JKFriz

        And you would prefer…?

        Anyhow, the photo and video show what they show. I’m not entirely sure what you’re implying. Photoshopped finger, perhaps?

        Also: “Photoshopped Finger” would be a great band name.

        • http://hyper-educated-uppity-woman.blogspot.com Uppity

          You see JK, I don’t really care whether he gave her the sophomoric finger or not. He will never be president.

          • JKFriz

            I don’t really care whether he gave her the sophomoric finger or not. He will never be president.

            Now we’re getting somewhere.

      • Manamongst Hussein

        See another conquered Hillbot site!!!

  • http://www.oohnuance.blogspot.com madamab

    Golly gee, I want a candidate who doesn’t whine, run away, and blame the other candidate for his own dreadful performance in the debate. I guess that’s pretty desperate. Or maybe, just maybe, I want a competent, confident and mature president after eight years of suffering under the frat-boy-in-chief.

    I think it’s pretty clear that Obama was giving her the finger. He did it twice and just exactly at the point he was mentioning her name. What is he, TWELVE? This is not remotely how a president acts.

    • JKFriz

      It’s not clear at all. Please look at the screen captures above, or watch the video listed on the link. Can we move on now?

      • stodghie

        i watched. he gave her the finger. go get your eyes checked.

      • Rob Gard

        I’ve watched several of the videos, posted here and elsewhere. It looks very clear to me that he is flipping Hillary off, particularly when you watch the remarks before and after, as well as the gestures and mugging for the cameras. I don’t see any magic second finger or unity unicorns, but maybe I’m drinking the wrong beverage. I’ve run a few of the videos in slow motion, and backwards, and he’s still flipping her off, but I didn’t hear “Paul is dead”.

        • JKFriz

          Sigh…

          http://www.mydd.com/comments/2008/4/18/102120/357/8#8

          And when you run the clip backwards, he’s actually reciting the Lewis Carroll poem “Jabberwocky.” Talented fella.

          • Jeff

            “And when you run the clip backwards, he’s actually reciting the Lewis Carroll poem “Jabberwocky.” Talented fella.”

            I hear “Helter Skelter”!

            • http://hyper-educated-uppity-woman.blogspot.com Uppity

              Bernardine Dohrn thought that sticking forks in them and eating from the same fork was very cool! Would you go to Bernardine’s house like Barry did? I bet you would if Plastic Jesus told you to.

              • Jeff

                “Would you go to Bernardine’s house like Barry did?”

                I certainly wouldn’t have pardoned 2 of them…

                • Manamongst Hussein

                  OUCH!!!!

                  pawnage!!!

            • ginaswo

              so would BERNADINE DORHN your golden boy’s good friend

              she thought it was great that Manson’s followers ate and stuck forks in the bodies of pregnant Sharon Tate and her friends
              and you think that’s just hunkey dorey right

              your golden one will never win a GE
              never

              get ready for a big fall in PA just like the one Obama took in the debate..

    • Manamongst Hussein

      Have you been in a coma during the previous 20-odd debates. Hillary has revolutionized whining throught the process…she’s complained about who goes first…how middle school is that? You know what, keep complaining…I’m sure there’ll be montage of Hillary complaints on youtube before you know it.

      • stodghie

        naw, ole barry is first grade. he desperately hunts for a daddy in far left circles and found a few. he started in hawaii with the socialst black poet and moved to chicago and looked up this guy’s contacts. ole barry surrounds himself with questionable people and acts in questionable, immature ways like giving people the bird and in general playing the fool. and you want us to hold our nose and say yeah, we’ve been dumped on for 8 years and we want 8 more of the same . no thanks

      • http://www.oohnuance.blogspot.com madamab

        Hillary is not a whiner. She’s a winner. She’s been taking punches a lot worse than Obama’s for 16 years and she just keeps coming back.

        She’s not gonna quit just because you guys piss and moan about your pathetic, weak Messiah.

        And no, I haven’t been in a coma. Apparently Obama was in one during the Clinton Administration, though, because he keeps lumping it in with Reagan-Bush-Bush. Those of us who were sentient during that time know that there is no comparison. Bill had a 70% approval rating while he was being impeached. Why was that, do you think?

        • Manamongst Hussein

          She’s a fighter…not a winner..rememeber…what has she won other than a senate seat…?

      • Rob Gard

        That’s only because by going first, it repeatedly gave Barry the opportunity to “sample” her words, ideas, and policies. And if you did more than a “drive-by”, you would know that the numbers for this site and Taylor Marsh’s site have been increasing dramatically over the past few weeks, while the Daily Obama site numbers have been faltering seriously. Like many others who have come here in search of a friendly environment, I started this campaign season so incredibly pumped-up about the quality of the field of candidates running on the Democratic Party ticket for President. Sure there were a few long-shots, and my ideological soulmate was probably closer to Dennis Kucinich that some of the other candidates, but as the field was narrowed, I found myself favoring Hillary or John Edwards, with Barack Obama looming as a huge question mark. I had been impressed with him in 2004, and watching his rise in Illinois politics before that time (I’ve lived in Chicago since the early 1970s), but I’ve seen a lot of slick Illinois politicians, and Obama’s “connections” were begining to emerge, painting a very troubling picture. From what I’ve learned from the local papers, the national press, and various on-line sources, I now consider Senator Obama to be a truly dangerous cipher, with dangerous personality disorders and a grandios sense of entitlement and self-centeredness that I could not assist in his planned ascension to the White House (and beyond, in his mind.)

    • Manamongst Hussein

      I guess we could take a snap shot of you scratching you balls and call you Michael Jackson.

      Will we have friedman units on Obama’s downfall on this too?

      • Jeff

        I like your tie-in with Friedman units, to the way the Clintonistas keep managing expectations. Haven’t heard that one yet–I shall borrow!

  • Fleaflicker

    This is just fantastic. Obama the Whiner. I haven’t been able to stop laughing. And probably won’t.

    • Strawberrybitch

      Wow Flea, No Quarter struck a nerve, the trolls are out in force. I love the smell of panic in the morning.

      • http://hyper-educated-uppity-woman.blogspot.com Uppity

        Yup. No impact=No Husseins.

      • Manamongst Hussein

        We’re still waiting for the Obama empire to crumble after bittergate…we’ll give you another friedman unit on that too…or shall we credit it towards Weather Underground. Way to get walkin orders from Hannity children…classy!

        • http://hyper-educated-uppity-woman.blogspot.com Uppity

          That would be in Pennsylvania next week.

        • Strawberrybitch

          So you admit, you’re a paid Obama operative.

          • http://hyper-educated-uppity-woman.blogspot.com Uppity

            If he is, Obama’s not getting his money’s worth.

        • kenoshaMarge

          We’re still waiting for the Obama empire to crumble after bittergate…we’ll give you another friedman unit on that too…or shall we credit it towards Weather Underground. Way to get walkin orders from Hannity children…classy!

          You’ll give? When did it become yours to give? Does that God completx give you much trouble among normal human beings?

          Are you and the “One” afraid of a question from a dimwit like Sean Hannity?

          Go away little troll and taken your over-inflated ego with you. The adults are attempting to talk and your pissy little temper trantrums are boring!

          • Jeff

            “The adults are attempting to talk and your pissy little temper trantrums are boring!”

            The “adults” here have decided this election should be based on an imagined flip-off.

          • Dawnelle

            ROFLOL!

        • http://hyper-educated-uppity-woman.blogspot.com Uppity

          Plastic Jesus will never be president.

        • ginaswo

          PA will show you the impact
          hope you’re ready for more whining from poor misunderstood Barry

          wah wah waaahhhh

      • TeakwoodKite

        Fleaflicker , Strawberrybitch, Belly up to the BO “finger expresso” bar and watch them do a version of troll disco dancing…

        :)

        • Fleaflicker

          Hahahaha. I hate disco!

      • Catriley

        You know that things are dismal in Obamaland when the trolls are actually high-fiving each other on No Quarter!

  • TeakwoodKite

    He clearly scratched hi face.

    Next you’ll tell us that he sucks his middle finger and chews his finger nails…or was it is he meant to pick his nose but it was so long he could not find the end of it.

    respectfully; Good luck with your ignorance, Manamongst Hussein.

    • Manamongst Hussein

      That makes no sense, what are you 8?

      • stodghie

        geez, you aren’t even good at insults much less logical thinking.

  • fribbles

    It doesn’t matter if it wasn’t intentional (for the record, I think it wasn’t). It’s the fact that he’s supposed to be a seasoned orator and should know better. That is Debate 101.

    This is going to lead all the news cycles today, chat show chatter, and blogs. It comes on the heels of his whining yesterday about the “unfair” debate questions. It feeds the narrative that he’s petulant and immature.

    Even for an O-bot, the stupidity of the act is not hard to grasp.

    • Jeff

      “This is going to lead all the news cycles today, chat show chatter, and blogs.

      Let’s really, really hope so. The superdelegates are dying to hear from the Hillary people about how she should win their vote, because Obama scratched his face in a way that people with an I.Q lower than his age thought was the bird.

    • Manamongst Hussein

      Let’s assume we are bots…you’re still extremely desperate. Should have known better? I guess when you’re used to not actually paying attention to the content of speeches, that’s all you’ll ever really get out of them. Umm you can take your ball and go home, we have our own.

      Thanks for playing.

      • Salo

        I’m not too keen on Clinton, and I reckon Obama has the ability to beat McCain on Iraq and Iraq alone–but he clearly flipped her off.

        i’ve done this exact same thing to people who are pissing me off.

        I’ve also executed this move when pushing my glasses back.

        You do it withte middle finger and people are always slightly miffed, like you did something but can deny it completely.

        • Thrasyboulos

          Barry Hussein Obama has as much ability to beat McCain as my cat. When the McCain media and the Republicans get through with him, his debate debacle will look like a triumphal march into Rome.

          Get ready for the asskicking of your life, Hussein Cult boys and girls, should the Dean/Brazile backup choir have its way.

          Lol! Lol! Lol!

          • http://hyper-educated-uppity-woman.blogspot.com Uppity

            I am SO going to enjoy the Swift Boat spots. I will be posting them. I LOVE watching Barry in the fetal position.

            • Jeff

              “I am SO going to enjoy the Swift Boat spots. I will be posting them. I LOVE watching Barry in the fetal position.”

              Another loyal Democrat…

      • TeakwoodKite

        Tell that to Tony Snow. You FEEL it is your ball to play with?

        content of (BO’s) speeches

        Manamongst Hussein made a funny…igit, there is NO content. Just the facade of shubbery.

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    • Dawnelle

      Yep I see it for sure!

      It may have been subconscious.
      I’m sure Hillary would LOVE to flip off MOST of BO’s acolytes as well as the “darker shaded” Alfred E Neuman!

      The contest is not won or lost because of it thought or GW DOUCHE’s rein would have been over years ago.

      It’s GOOD people finally standing up to bully’s and punks and blind elite snobs with lofty “good” intentions.

      Some of them are still good friends of mine but just can’t get over some deep seeded impression of Hillary and will take any minimal screw up of hers to reinforce their previous more deep rooted belief.

      It’s sad.
      Some of my old friends and I have parted ways over this. I just can’t get over their willingness to follow so blindly. They are exactly like the BUSH league they have been SCREAMing about for years!

      Really very sad.

  • Mr.Murder

    (takes glasses off)
    *HOODWINK YOU, heh.
    Try to *HOODWINK you.
    (/puts glasses on)

    Playing ‘gotcha’ games.

    (flips off finger)
    In her element.
    (/flips finger off)

    -CSI Obama

    • Dawnelle

      LOL

      Love the HTML!

      GO HILLARY!! ;-)

  • Jeff

    The title of this piece is unintentionally hilarious. A pro-Hillary blog has actually published a post titled “Hillary Demonstrates How Mature Candidates Handle Pressure + Clearer Video of Barack Giving Her The Finger“.

    I think we’ve all been redirected to The Onion.

    • stodghie

      maybe that is your new source of choice, but i prefer my own eyes and ears. i can see very clearly what barry poo is doing. i don’t want 8 years of obama really meant. bull!

      • Jeff

        “i can see very clearly what barry poo is doing. “a mind is a terrible thing to waste…

        • jwrjr

          How would you know?

  • pennsylvaniamother

    A candidate for President conducts himself or herself with more decorum. He is unfit for the Presidency. Look at how he talks. Look at how he conducts himself.

    • Manamongst Hussein

      Stil looking good from here sweetie…

      care to expound? In other words can you be specific?

      doubt it.

      Admit it you really don’t know why you don’t like him…it’s fine if you like her better for no good reason at all…but must you be a hater for no reason? News flash he’s a democrat…what are you?

      • Strawberrybitch

        Hey dumbshit, you just insulted a person you need in next weeks election in Pennsylvania. She’ll probably talk to about 9-10 of her neighbors about how rude you were, and they’ll talk to 9-10 of their neighbors. Good going. You’re doing a bang up job getting Obama elected.

        • pennsylvaniamother

          I sent that response to my comment to over 200 people in PA.

          • http://hyper-educated-uppity-woman.blogspot.com Uppity

            Well done! Just think of how many people THEY will forward it to.

          • ginaswo

            thank you
            the offensive conduct of Obama supporters online is infamous at this point and it is a real discredit to Democrats

        • http://hyper-educated-uppity-woman.blogspot.com Uppity

          Like I said, Strawberry, Obamazoids are our best allies!

          • http://hyper-educated-uppity-woman.blogspot.com Uppity

            Don’t forget to print out that message! You know how handy their printouts come in when you are handing them out to people!

      • grtphoto

        that is the dumbest logic I have ever heard. Hater for no reason? Like her for no good reason?
        You are doing a lot of complaining with no specifics. Just simply go elsewhere where you can enjoy yourself.

      • http://hyper-educated-uppity-woman.blogspot.com Uppity

        I know exactly why I don’t like him. I may have to do this in several posts though. For starters, I recognized right off that his rallies were straight out the the Hitler Youth Movement Playbook. For there, I noticed he can’t put two words together without a podium in a controlled auditorium. Then I moved on to discovering that he is a liar about taking money from Lobbyists and Big Oil. There are more than a dozen REGISTERED lobbyists who have bundled for him. Go to whitehouseforsale.org. Then I discovered that in spite of his claim to get all his money from “little people” his top ten contributors are subprime lenders. Then I discovered that his finance advisor was a subprime lender of a bank that folded and stuck it up the asses of their customers. Then I discovered that he hangs out with Bill Ayers and Bernardine Dohrn, two people I actually remember without having to read a book. Then I discovered that Hamas,Rashid Khalidi and Zbigniew Brezinski are close friends and advisors. Google them yourself. Then i heard his miserable racist wife talk. Then I heard Reverend Wright talk. Then I heard Obama blame me because Wright is a racist asshole. Then I saw the New Black Panthers link on his web site. Then I saw the Hamas Manifesto get removed from Wright’s site. Then I watched Barry run off when reporters questioned his affiliations with a slum lord who made poor black people in OBAMA’s district freeze their asses off, all on 100 million dollars of taxpayer money that Barry helped him get. Then came the interesting home purchase. And that’s my short list.

        • http://hyper-educated-uppity-woman.blogspot.com Uppity

          I didn’t have time to talk about the raw BULLSHIT in his books, they have been debunked so badly they should be old in the Fictional Novel category.

          Now run along. Barry wants you to take a trip to PA for him on a bus, where you can pretend you vote there, just like you all did in those caucuses. Let me tell you something else. You Obama sycophants are the very reason Obama will NEVER be president. you will learn the McGovern lesson. Adults don’t let impressionable pisspots and college students who are leaching off their parents to look “upscale” to pick presidents.

      • lifelong dem leaving party

        we’re not your “sweetie.” sounds like you hate women as much as obama does.

        saw an earlier post of yours saying obama doesn’t need our votes – good, because he’s not getting them.

        however, i think you’re deluding yourself if you think obama wouldn’t need clinton supporters’ votes in a general election. without them, he loses in a landslide.

        fortunately for the country, he will be without them and he will lose in a landslide.

      • TeakwoodKite

        Stil looking good from here sweetie

        Get some manners, fool.

        News flash he’s a democrat…what are you?

        News flash, he maybe running as democrat, but that is only for convience sake. Email wanted to make a senator. Others wanted to make a POTUS in their image and in their efforts they had no problem making you a fool.

        I am a handmade kite made o’ teakwood with a silk sail with a logo that says in gold letters ‘locutus verum ad facultas’.

  • bluesky

    Hey Everyone.

    I got this info at Riverdaughter’s site. Someone called the Obama campaign to complain about the finger move by Obama, and this is what they said,

    “Plain as day to all except the Democratic National Committee who say he was just scratching his nose. I called the Obama campaign to complain: 1-866-675-2008 and they LAUGHED. They all think it is a great big cut up. Perhaps if we all call he’ll have to own up to it before the PA vote on Apr. 22.”

    So I just called, and said I was an Obama supporter, and I was really offended by what he did. The woman on the phone said he used two fingers. I said no he did not, I’ve seen it from many angles. She laughed and said no it’s two fingers. I said that is your opinion, and I’m an Obama supporter and this is my opinion. I’m ashamed of him, and please tell his campaign how I feel.

    Everyone call them and let them know your thoughts.

    • Jeff

      “I said that is your opinion, and I’m an Obama supporter and this is my opinion.”

      You’re making that up. You are not an Obama supporter.

      • stodghie

        jeff, just who are you calling a liar? what gives you the right to get on here with this self righeous bull? in other words who in the hexx do you think you are?

        • Jeff

          “in other words who in the hexx do you think you are?”

          Someone with a greater intelligence than to base my voting decisions off an imagined flip-off.

      • http://hyper-educated-uppity-woman.blogspot.com Uppity

        You aren’t KIDDING we aren’t!

    • Manamongst Hussein

      Par for the course with the old ethics there. You deserve to be laughed at…you really don’t get it. I can see where you priorities lie…

      Honest NQ readers…is this the kind of lowbrow games you wanna be associated with? I’m sure he can come here and lie and say he’s a Hillary suporter just as easily. Sometimes those who say they are your friend and fellow supporter really are NOT.

      You’ll find out soon enough.

      muder-sucide pact indeed.

      • simon, too

        You’ve reachred the limits of your comprehension, and this is where that 50′s UPENN psy ops shit fails, in the marginally talented.

        YOU can’t see how YOU’RE being trolled, and a xerox threat just won’t cut it.

        You don’t get it.

        But others get you.

        You don’t know what the fuck you’re doing.

  • beachnan

    Obama is an empty suit. His arrogance is appalling. It looked like he was flipping her off, and that’s the way the audience took it. This man should not be running for President of the United States. Even if you don’t agree, that he was flipping her off-that brushing off of the shoulders was AN ARROGANT GESTURE. I do not understand how his supporters can continually tell us we took this out of context, or that out of context. The United States cannot afford another arrogant bastard in the White House.

    • Manamongst Hussein

      You are incapable of giving us clear examples of you OPINION of arrogance. What makes him an empty suit…and how do you know this…so I guess because taylor says it ten million times a day makes it a cool and accurate thing to say.

      • Thrasyboulos

        He’s an empty suit because he has accomplished nothing other than gaming, with the help of his media leghumpers and the terminally cretinous Howie Dean, the nomination.

        Enjoy it while it lasts, because Hussein has as much chance in the GE as my old cat.

        • Manamongst Hussein

          He’s won more election feet on the ground than Hillary’s one bought seat…

          You can’t be serious…

  • Peter Twieg

    Wow, is that really the backup argument here? “Maybe he didn’t mean to flip her off, but he still pissed us off and thus it was a bad P.R. move and thus reflects poorly upon him”? So hypothetically a scandal could be completely fabricated (as this one more or less was) and it would still be grounds to criticize Obama because people are able to fabricate scandals against him? There must be a lot of Republicans out there feeling rather flattered by having their campaign logic adopted by their former targets.

    • Jeff

      “Wow, is that really the backup argument here? “Maybe he didn’t mean to flip her off, but he still pissed us off and thus it was a bad P.R. move and thus reflects poorly upon him”?”

      This is all they have. I feel kind of bad for them.

      • Manamongst Hussein

        I pity them as well. Good luck with procuring those elitist Elton John tickets you’ll never be able to afford.

        gullible fools!

        • simon, too

          And now he will do his best lord of the rings imitation, and disappear.

          Too funny, if you had a clue.

          Boy, someone opened the Campbell’s soup, today, WHAT a chef.

      • Mel

        Kind of hard to talk about much else about Obama, since he won’t give answers on raising payroll taxes, capital gains taxes, commit to his claim of pulling out of iraq in 16 months after an advisor claimed it rhetoric, rhetoric with nafta, lies about his minister and associations, voting for Cheney’s tax give away to oil companies, false claims of his gun control, to name a few!

        But we understand, you kids at the U of Chicago taking Bill Ayers class need to speak crap like your teacher does!

        Be grateful that if Obama is the nominee and after McCain crushes him, you can still attend school since your parents will still be able to afford to send you without Obama’s tax grabs making you unable to continue your possible higher education! Even though it is proving to be a waste of money anyhow based on your low levels of understanding you’ve shown presently!

      • CognitiveDissonance

        Whether you think it was a flip-off or not doesn’t matter a tiny little bit. What matters is what real voters are going to think after Fox and 527 groups run that clip on TV a few thousand times. I think I know what most people will think. And I think I know what their reaction will be. Most people don’t think it’s funny when Bush acts like a frat boy with no clue. They will like it even less in Obama, since he so frequently displays his arrogance. They may have been uneasy at his arrogant displays before, but when you add that clip, he’s toast. (Quite frankly, he’s already toast in November, as anyone who’s been through an election knows).

    • Strawberrybitch

      Peter, Condi Rice managed to insult half the ME world by unknowingly showing the bottem of her feet. That’s how subtle diplomacy can get. We need a grown up in the White House, one with manners.

    • simon, too

      Peter, you’re being trolled.

      I know the math gets a little harder at this point, but a lot of people have put thought into it, and while you might think you’re gaining control, spinning, you’re being fed.

      They are THAT good, and this is nothing.

      Obama will be in worse shape when this is over, as will the republicans trolls.

      Take my advice, don’t feed it.

  • coral

    all this nonsense about scratching his nose. Nobody seemed to notice that all during the debates, Hillary kept referring to Senator Obama as Barack, and when she talked about McCain, she kept saying Senator McCain. This is much more obvious and deliberate attempt on her part to make Obama seem diminutive and it borders on racism.

    • stodghie

      it has more respect that annie okley, dude!

    • ebonyscrews

      You are so fucking stuck in the 60′s, dude. It’s 2008, Princess Barack is running for President of the US–some fucking racism, huh? You all know that crying racism and playing victims isn’t getting your sorry whining asses anywhere in the general, huh? The only people scared shitless about being called racists or bigots are all left wing prissy radical nutjobs like the flowerchildren protecting your boy, Barry.

      • kenoshaMarge

        I’m getting real confused now. So calling someone by their first name if bordering on racism? And what is it when he calls her Hillary? Jeebus talk about reaching.

        • Manamongst Hussein

          No not that I know of marge

    • Manamongst Hussein

      desperate times call for desperate measures I guess.

    • kenoshaMarge

      If you had any intelligence you wouldn’t be trolling when it is just annoying people that the candidate you support will need to win a General Election if he should get the nomination. Pointlessly name-calling and arguing with other Democrats/Liberals/Progressives is just plain stupid. And your vaunted I.Q. is more than likely just a figment of your imagination or you wouldn’t be on this blog just to pick a fight.

      Sorry people but these trolls have pretty much hi-jacked this post and we’ve all wasted a lot of time and space responding to them.
      We know better. They are attention whores that need to come someplace to get their “fix” since they are smart enough to play with the cool and popular kids on the blogs that support their candidate. Shame on all of us for validating their existence.

      • Manamongst Hussein

        Shame on you Marge we’re trying to save you from yourself. And you know if you think you have something to say then you’ll say it…I don’t why you’re frontin Marge you’ve played with me before…I wouldn’t respond to silly posts but part of you knows you’re in the wrong. If it were a white candidate you’d probably give them your vote. Instead you make up boogie men in the character of a man that’s never done a thing to you. Someday you’ll realize how big of a fool you’ve all been. But when it comes down to it haters like yourself will never win.

        • lifelong dem leaving party

          wondered how long it would take – ran out of the usual bs, so out comes the racist charge.

    • ginaswo

      that is so funny you say that
      because I have been doing some research for a paper and the NYT actually complained at the debate when Sen. Clinton called him Sen. Obama
      they said it was negative and “not friendly”

      you guys are TOO TOO funny!!!

    • Catriley

      Ding Ding Ding! The racism trolls have arrived!!!!

      Geez. Did Markos go bankrupt and his site got shut down or something???

    • allimom99

      You’ve GOT to be kidding me.

  • sbendforhill

    The obamanation must be tearing their hair out. I haven’t seen this many trolls ever here. They must be scared silly!

    • Manamongst Hussein

      No silly this is an intervention!

      “Will you accept the help that we’ve come to give?”

      • simon, too

        “Will you accept the help that we’ve come to give?”

        From a group of retards?

        Why?

        Is it handicapped pride week?

        • JKFriz

          Stay classy, No Quarter.

          • simon, too

            From the head retard?

            No, thanks.

            And I apologize to any I may have offended, but, you know, how else do you describe spastic children with access to the Internet?

            I mean, what is the pompous deluded k%%, messing with Obama, and his crew, all with questionable alliances, but a retard?

            How serious is it to take money from Auchi?

            I mean, you’re given American opportunities, and they are great, and you betray it for what?

            A couple of million?

            Auchi is connected to corruption, and terrorism.

            Do these retards think law enforcement turns a blind eye toward it?

        • Manamongst Hussein

          sure..lets pretend it is..

        • Manamongst Hussein

          sure..lets pretend it is…come to rehab…

        • Manamongst Hussein

          That’s not cool…I’m not handicapped but why disparage handicapped people…who still calls people retards too?

          It’s that serious?

      • jwrjr

        The troll says that he has come to give. Don’t worry, a little penicillin will take care of it.

  • ebonyscrews

    He’s an embarrassment to the Dem party–what, now he thinks he’s Richard Pryor or Chris Rock? This immaturity, arrogance, sense-of-entitlement and I’m above-all-that-jive shit is exposing him day after day to what he really is–a fraud with a chip on his shoulder the size of Texas. He belongs in therapy–not the White House.

    From Stop-Obama.org–The finger right back at ya, Barry!

    [OBJECTIONABLE MATERIAL REMOVED BY ADMINISTRATION].

    • JKFriz

      Hey, nice link!

      Fuck off Hussein. Grow a Beard, Go Run in a Mountain, and Yodle for Allah.

      Don’t let the door hit you on the way out!

      • ebonyscrews

        Don’t let it hit you, asshole.

        • JKFriz

          Y’know, I think I’ll let this one stand.

          • simon, too

            Do you think it’s up to you?

            Bush and Cheney thought that too.

            It’s not.

            • JKFriz

              Sorry. I just hate it when people misspell “yodel.” That, and when people crap on Muslims

    • Manamongst Hussein

      You guys are Democrats, I thought yall were in that Lieberman Party…

      We’re all a bit embarrassed for you. But what we came here for is to ask you…Will you accept the help we’ve come to give you?

      • ebonyscrews

        With no due respect, Markos, YOU and all your pathologically unhinged radicals have no claim on the Dem party….and never will….WE ARE AMERICANS BEFORE WE ARE DEMOCRATS OR REPUBLICANS…don’t let that little fact slip from your indoctrinated and intolerant little minds…:-)

      • Mel

        Come back when you are old enough to vote little boy and able to buy a computer instead of using your schools computer lab….lol

      • simon, too

        Kinda fuuny, who would set up Obama with Lieberman?

        heh.

      • Rob Gard

        Oh, and he’s a “concern troll” too. I think that I’ll wait until Tuesday night after the polls close to see if an intervention is in order…for you.

      • http://bluespotblog.com Marc1A

        This is the typical condescending attitude that many Obama supporters and Kosacks have that have driven many people away from Obama and towards Hillary. It’s funny that you don’t see he’ll need Hillary supporters behind him to win in Nov. I’m not going to keep trading barbs with you and I’ll let you have the last word as you obviously have all day to be on this board. The last thing I’ll say is it’s ridiculous how you people, especially Kossacks treat Hillary as if she’s a Republican, when many of Obama’s votes are identical to Hillary’s. Many of their policies are similar. In fact, if it weren’t for this election, you’d probably see that we agree on more than we disagree as far as policy and ideology. But since everybody is in campaign mode, everybody (but especially Obama supporters and Kosscacks) feel the need to confront the other side. You’re right, we’re all Dems. Maybe it’s time you act like an adult. You’re not going to do anything here but make people hate your candidate even more. See ya, going to enjoy this beutiful day.

  • JoeySky

    Well well well..! That woman is my president.

    I don’t want a whiney that need a troop of droids out defending for him in the blog.

    • Manamongst Hussein

      does not compute…we are pledged for Obama!

      does not compute…

      will…you…accept…our…help?

      • http://www.oohnuance.blogspot.com madamab

        Your “help” consists of calling HRC and her supporters names that would make a convict blush, making no positive arguments for your candidate, and dolloping on enough condescension to stop a Mack Truck.

        I am 40 years old and have voted Democratic in every presidential election. I don’t need anyone “helping” me to “come to” my presidential candidate. Obama is a terrible, terrible candidate with no credentials whatsoever and a personal life that is a total disaster. John Kerry was FDR compared to this guy. And I resent the hell out of idiots like you, who have infiltrated what used to be my favorite places, telling me I need your help or commenting on my character or perceptions.

        • Manamongst Hussein

          What names? Honey, buddy friend? Don’t think you’ll see any of that from me…thanks for the concern…

          • lifelong dem leaving party

            actually, troll, i have no concern. i was just bored so i thought i’d play with a troll. it’s such an easy game, though, so i’m bored again.

            bye troll. maybe i’ll play again another day, if i get bored enough.

      • simon, too

        There used to be a joke about gay terrorists, what was it, how would they attack?

        Oh, yeah, they’d redecorate your house while you were out.

        OK, I apologize if I may have offended anyone…

        • workingclass artist

          LOL….I could use a makeover…

      • jwrjr

        Now I understand. In addition to being a troll, he also is a Borg. We here choose not to be assimilated by you or anybody else.

  • Kathryn

    Flipped her the bird, didn’t flip her the bird, I don’t care. What I do care about is his day long whining about HIS horrible performance in the debate. Blaming her, the moderators, anybody and everybody for his failures. He folded like the cheap suit he is then spends his time on the stump proving what a wuss he is. You can see why he married such a mean overpowering woman, he’s a MAJOR wimp.
    Hillary wasn’t our whining about it because she has more balls than he does, that much came through loud and clear at the debate. He has caused more division in this country than we have seen in a long time. He is a petulant, inexperienced BAMBOOZLER. And Im a lifetime dyed in the wool liberal, but to me Wright is a racist who is part of the race problem in America and Ayers is an unrepentant terrorist who skated out of serving time for his crimes unlike the Weatermen that Bill pardoned who were in prison paying for their crimes.
    Obama is dangerous and unelectable.

    • Manamongst Hussein

      unelectable if he was hillary, get a grip honey..reality will still be waiting.

      • TeakwoodKite

        get a grip honey WTF??? What is that comment about? Mysoginist troll love?

      • lifelong dem leaving party

        now we’re “honey.” before, we were “sweetie.” guess obama REALLY REALLY REALLY

      • lifelong dem leaving party

        now we’re “honey.” before, we were “sweetie.” guess obama REALLY REALLY REALLY doesn’t want our votes.

        • lifelong dem leaving party

          sorry for the double (almost) post.

        • Manamongst Hussein

          leave already…some just can’t be saved…
          we’ll have your best interest in mind.

          • lifelong dem leaving party

            already gone. if you have my best interests in mind, my best interests are in deep trouble.

            btw, obamabots keep telling us to leave, keep telling us they don’t need our votes. even your idiot candidate wants our votes, despite hating us. you’re not helping him.

            • Manamongst Hussein

              then I don’t think he hates you, as much as you’d like to think that. And I don’t hate you either boss…that’s totally your decision and loss. So you feel, from supporting Hillary, that McCain is your next best choice for YOU? And that could be the case…can’t see you getting preganant any time soon…this means you probably want more deregulation and tax cuts for your upper tax bracket salary.

              But I’ve never seen sooo many people know so much about a candidate they claim Americans truely don’t know about. Can you explain why you give us no credit for already knowng about Weather Underground, Rezko and still wanting to vote for him. when you do the same for Hillary’s frailties.

    • Catriley

      Kathryn, That’s what I’ve been thinking. I definitely watched it from different angles, and it was unmistakable. there is no other reason his fans would have gasped and chuckled, considered what he said wasn’t particularly clever.

      I was more offended by his personal attacks of her, and the whining. His comment that she “likes to twist the knife” really troubled me. How immature and unprofessional he is! The thing that is REALLY the worst, is that he was READING those comments as he spoke them. I mean.. those were planned attacks on Hillary. Of course watching his supporters jumping up and screaming and acting so squirrelly was really disturbing. Does mentioning a long debate really warrant a standing ovation?

  • orionATL

    re the time mag cite.

    clinton said it very eloquently

    and she knows whereof she speaks.

    as a response on the time mag site, an obama spokesman said

    [ Response from Obama spokesman Burton: “Considering the fact that Senator Clinton sat on stage at the last debate and complained to all of America that she always gets the first question, her blatant hypocrisy here is stunning.” ]

    first of all this is a really juvenile response.

    secondly, i went back over the first part of the transcript which Lambert posted at correntewire

    and i could not find where sen clinton said what burton attributed to her.

    does anybody have better info?

    was this at some informal time before or after the debate?

    • Manamongst Hussein

      so you don’t remember the two debates where she complained. The second she complained after she lost an apparent coin toss. The whole reason they have a coin toss is because she complained.

      Move along

  • fribbles

    Don’t feed the trolls, people.

    • Manamongst Hussein

      Thanks for reading though…I’d rather you not respond anyway…your ignorance is counterproductive…

  • Kathryn

    Her comment about getting the first question in ALL the debates was a statement of fact, not whining. There is a difference. Obama is whining. A whining President? No thanks.
    His wife on the stump is saying we better all watch out because Barack intends to CHANGE things around here. It sounds more like a threat than a promise to me.
    They guy has too many unknowns. The knowns are stacking up very badly against him.

    • Manamongst Hussein

      Something can be a fact and still be whining buddy. Like if I was a Hillbot and said, “it’s just not fair he’s winning caucuses” Theoretically caucuses are unfair…but you’d still be a whinning bitch…lol

  • scott

    Susan and Larry,
    You seem to have struck a nerve. Must be the one Barry is referring to that Hillary is twisting the knife against.

    It’s good you move your hosting to dedicated servers to prevent denial of service attacks, since your pissing the obamazoids off.

    • Manamongst Hussein

      and why attack a sure loser?

      • PMS

        Good question. Thanks for the answer.

        • ginaswo

          ROTFLMAO!!!!

  • bamboozled

    Thank you for posting this! Those weren’t ‘tough’ questions. Those were fair questions based on the fact he has limited time in office – not much of a US Senate voting record to look at. And, with what we have seen, it has all been for show because he started running for office the day he took his Senate seat.
    Hillary has faced the tough questions since the beginning of her campaign and she has been getting the crap end of the stick from the media.
    I am thankful that there is a tough cookie like her running for president. Does anyone remember Olbermann rant? Check this video out – http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kcdnlNZg2iM
    Remember 8 years ago when the intellectual and the ego ran for office? Here we are 8 years later, exact same scenario – just on the same side of the fence.

    • Manamongst Hussein

      Don’t be mad at us cause you voted for an idiot last time around…who says you can’t make the same mistake twice huh…lol

      • bamboozled

        Did u take the time to check out the video? Or, are YOU on a rant – just to prove how right you are? You are the idiot if you think I voted for one.

  • Kathy

    I love it! About time someone told Obama to man up!

    Did anyone else see what happened in Indiana last night? Apparently, the minute Obama stepped foot off the plane, the earth started to shake, and a light opened up in the sky…

  • http://thecommanderguy.blogspot.com/ The Commander Guy

    Holy Hay Suess

    The folks at RED STATE gotta be smiling now with all this nonsense.

    Because for the first time in their sad lives, they got the satisfaction of knowing they’ve outsmarted a bunch of folks….. dat B U Hillbots.

  • orionATL

    it’s quiet

    really, really, quiet

    over at

    talking points memo

    and daily kos

    and carpetbagger.

    nobody is writing anything about obama’s digits

    and only the tiniest amount about his criticism yesterday in n. carolina of wednesday’s debate.

    why this eerie silence?

    • Jeff

      “nobody is writing anything about obama’s digits”

      Because they’re actually adults.

      • Mel

        Well thank you for confirming you are not an adult…lol

        Guess your parents have the Parental controls on your compter again, so you can’t do the porn sites, so instead going around acting ignorant is your second choice of pleasure!

      • http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/04/18/clearer-video-of-obama-giving-hillary-the-finger/#comment-195838 Peter

        Obama followers are adults. That is the first time I have ever heard that. That’s an interesting thought. They act mature at the freak sites and then are forced to troll other sites as they can’t take having to be so polite with each other. Apparently, grown up discussions of Obama’s policy (that you all agree on) can be frustating.

        Again, the may not be discussing the ‘digits’ but they are discussing the ‘wipe the filth (Clinton) off the shoulders’ and the ‘wipe the shit (Clinton) off the shoes’ and getting quite a kick out of it. It is being hoped by one poster that it can become the Obamaborg symbol of, get this, solidarity and unity. There’s that pony again. I’m naming mine toast, in honor on your pathetic candidate.

    • Manamongst Hussein

      Because they have real issues to talk about…like policy the real election, why even mention Hillary, she’s a washed up sparring partner that takes cheap shots in hopes that she’ll get to the big fight.

      I heard Don King has endorsed her!

      speaking of TPM…”THIS IS GREAT NEWS FOR HILLARY”

      mad shoutout to idiotic!!!!!!

    • ginaswo

      they have all been sent to pester other sites
      that’s what they always do when Barry takes a fall :0>

      • simon, too

        Why do you assume those people matter?

        What if you launched an attack, and no one gave a shit, because everyone knew you HAD NO POWER.

        Get it?

        Bush and Cheney dont either.

        See, they think they’re players, and they’re not.

        They’re losing.

  • http://noquarterusa.net/ SusanUnPC

    If you have a MyDD account, please recommend Campskunk’s diary on Hillary’s interview this morning:

    http://www.mydd.com/story/2008/4/18/115946/725

    • Strawberrybitch

      Susan, I’ve been hearing rumblings that the Democratic elites (Kerry, Kennedy, Dean) are going to have a talk with Obama about bowing out. what have you heard? Apparently they don’t want to go down with the SS Obama.

      • reality based

        They should certainly be considering that if they are rational beings. I wonder if Caroline Kennedy is having second and third thoughts? Can you imagine her late mother’s reaction to the likes of Obama’s performance yesterday?

      • JoeySky

        SS Hopium has a big hole in the belly.

        • http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/04/18/clearer-video-of-obama-giving-hillary-the-finger/#comment-195895 Peter

          Aaah, thanks for that reference. I had been wondering what they had been lacing their kool-aid with.

          Someone told Obama to man up? Too late. I said months ago that I thought there was a good chance we would have a woman in the White House but that I didn’t realize it was going to be the effete Obama.

          • Vnd

            Great line (and I’m a woman). I can see it now:

            It’s time we had a woman in the White House!

            [Picture of Obama]

            • lifelong dem leaving party

              lololololol

      • mimi

        “Susan, I’ve been hearing rumblings that the Democratic elites (Kerry, Kennedy, Dean) are going to have a talk with Obama about bowing out. what have you heard? Apparently they don’t want to go down with the SS Obama.”

        Even if it’s only a rumor that just made my day!!!

      • simon, too

        If Obama goes, no matter what happens, you can consider it a victory.

        I would doubt it given the nature of these things, and after Larry Craig, well, those self haters know no shame, but still, any crippling of Obama is a victory.

        McAuliffe was said to have remarked it would be all over by June, but that is not verified.

  • orionATL

    all’s quiet on the huffington post front as well.

    my, my.

  • Vnd

    It’s very clear what happened:

    His finger goes up at 1:24 and immediately the audience reacts, laughing and clapping, clearly reacting to the finger (he’s not speaking at that point). In fact, ten seconds later at 1:34 we see a woman who had missed it told by her friend what had happened and she has a good laugh too.

    I think it’s clear from his audience’s reaction that they took it to mean F-U, Hillary. Isn’t that a good indication it happened?

    PS I read somewhere he may have done it twice, is that possible?

    • Jeff

      “PS I read somewhere he may have done it twice, is that possible?”

      We are witnessing the fall of Rome…

      • Salo

        Obama will still get the nomination, but he’s obviously flipping her off.

        So he’s a bit petulant when he knows a rival got the drop on him in a debate. Juvenile. Sophomoric. childish. sore loser. passive aggressive.

        I wouldn’t say it’s the end of the world or the fall of Rome, but the little things do count.

  • mostest

    All this ringing of hands and gnashing of teeth for naugth. Hillary will win the nomination and be the best president EVER.

    It is done.

    • Jeff

      “Hillary will win the nomination and be the best president EVER.”

      “It is done.”

      Except that it’s not. At all. She’s behind in a mathematically fatal way. She lost this in February. And everyone knows it. Including her.

      • Strawberrybitch

        Actually, I’ve been hearing that Obama is going to be asked to step aside on his own. It’s the only way we can win the GE and not have Obamabots start burning down their parents neighborhoods.

        • Jeff

          “Actually, I’ve been hearing that Obama is going to be asked to step aside on his own.”

          Ok, I’ll take the bait. Where have you heard this?

      • simon, too

        Mathematically fatal?

        You DO believe in the tooth fairy, dont you?

        I know a tooth fairy, he’s an old hairy guy, effete, Obama supporter.

        We call him the tooth fairy because, other than being a latent gay in denial, he’s always drumming up business for dentists.

  • Mel

    Anyone notice that since Texas and Ohio, Obama hasn’t had any of those fake fainters in the crowds?

    Maybe they will again plant one this week-end just to keep the Obamabots happy?

  • Ren Vs Stimpy

    Dear Mr. Obama,

    I feel this is the appropriate response.

    (insert middle finger here)

    Thank you
    Hillary

    • workingclass artist

      In the spirit of internet confessions….I’m Bill Clinton and I approve that message…..

  • http://www.food4humanity.org HoosierHoops

    I guess we had an eathquake in Indiana because Obama is teaching us not to bitter..
    so let us pray..

    Oh Obama..who art in Chicago
    Hussien be thy name
    Thy election come
    Thy will be done, in Washington as it is in Chicago
    Give us this day our daily bread
    and forgive us our bitterness, as we forgive them whom cling to thier guns bitterly.
    And lead us not into debates about policy
    But deliver us from evil
    For thine is the kingdom, and the power, and the glory, for ever and ever
    Amen

    Whew..feel better now.. I’m one happy cracker.

    • JoeySky

      ROFL.!!!

  • Amanda

    For the trolls “leaning towards the beatifully blessed” (the meaning of the name Barack Hussein Obama) and for those who believe:

    Senator Obama seems to be a living embodiment of the name his parents gave him: he has lived a blessed life and seeks to share his blessing; he is beautiful to behold and to listen to – people are drawn to him and inspired when they hear him speak and consider his ideas; and in public life he is flexible and dedicated to leaning where necessary to help uplift others.

    … please athere to your blessed leader, in the spirit of his holiness and stop soiling your fingerprints in the land of the mortals. Conduct unbecoming of cult followers.

  • http://thatsmeontheleft.blogspot.com/ Puget Sound Island Girl

    Remember after he won Iowa. He and Michelle walked into their celebration party to the Jay Z song, “99 Problems” (I got 99 problems but that Bitch ain’t one).

    • simon, too

      Next time he should play 99 bottles of beer on the wall, and ask himself how he’s being trolled.

      Damn, those Obama bois are DUMB.

  • Lyn

    Greta has a poll up then people were emailing her about the poll being hijack so she posted this and asked for comments, UPDATE 12:53 — I am getting emails that people believe Obama supporters have just “hijacked” the poll and thus the numbers…I have no idea if this is true or not…but post your comment about this…hijacked? http://gretawire.foxnews.com/2008/04/18/the-finger-yes-no-not-sure/#comment-858757

    THis is a good place to let them know not only are the polls hijacked but all the other crap they pull online , crashing sites, and of course how they won the caucuses

  • buckskin711

    i think when obama flipped off hillary it actually turned on manamongst……he was hoping obama was sending him a subliminal suggestion that he wanted a blowjob from the famous anamongst. he probably watches it over and over and masterbates. larry sinclair is getting jealous.

    • simon, too

      I think some people should stay out of Vegas.

      Too fucking dumb.

  • ModDem

    This isn’t a Republican site, is it?
    I’ve seen all kinds of posts about how people won’t vote for Obama no matter what. So tell me how that kind of attitude gets a Democrat into the White House? How does that kind of attitude keep McCain and [at least] 4 more years of Bush policies from reigning over the country? Have we lost our purpose here?

    • simon, too

      I’d rather be called a racist than a republican.

      Republicans lost three wars, and the Obamabots are dumber than the republicans.

      I dont like to be thought of as stupid, do you?

  • http://thecommanderguy.blogspot.com/ The Commander Guy

    Mod Dem

    This Board Gotta Wingnut Infestation Problem Here.

  • ModDem

    simon
    Wait, so you do want 4 more years of Bush?
    Obama, an Obama administration and Democrats working to change the last 8 years is somehow worse than McCain continuing the mess? Huh?

    • Mel

      Fact is, with out counting Fla and Mich, there will be no Dem in the WH. Counting Fla and Mich, there will be no Obama nominee, that is reality!

      So twist things any which way and the outcome is plain as day, there will never be an Obama in the White House in 2009!

      • http://thecommanderguy.blogspot.com/ The Commander Guy

        Mod Dem

        I told ya there be Wingnuts about these here parts.

        • Jeff

          no kidding.

    • simon, too

      I think a MCcain presidency would be crippled, already is given what I know of the republicans, and McCains temperment.

      I think Obama is an impotent skunk, worse than Bush, a mime’s puppet.

      To put that terrorist enabler in the white house is a slap in the face to Americans, Obama is, to me, a self acknowledged traitor.

      Either way, both MALE candidates are crippled, like Bush and Cheney.

      And both, given their selfishness, will be easy to troll.

      Like Bush and Cheney.

      It’s a democracy, despite the garbage of the wannabe ops, both Obama’s, and republican, some good has come out of the last eight years, all of it grounded in democratic free choice.

      And if you watch closely, as K&& gets older, he’ll morph into a pig face, physically.

      His selection, with Rove, to write for Newsweek was, in hindsight, no accident.

      • simon, too

        It is up to the people of this country to decide it’s direction, to clean it up, to insist on better, intelligent clean politicians.

        If you choose to use internet type “weapons of persuasion” againt them, you have to consider you’ve declared war on the American people.

        And then you take what you get.

  • rwc

    Given the way the Obamabots like cee/manonman/commander commode are all over on this issue I’d say it struck a nerve.

    And you can bet Rove and Luntz are right now figuring out ways to rile the thug from Chicago so he’ll lose his cool in the GE.

    Not to mention using the video of his asinine Hillary FU moment in TV ads.

    Though its no wonder why progressives and the far left in general like him. He’s just as spoiled, immature and stupid as them.

    • simon, too

      He’s Bush, he’s right wing, too.

      Sure you wanna spool that crap propaganda?

      Everytime I see this, I think, man, this guy is being trolled, and he can’t see it.

      Which tells you why the republicans lost three wars.

      Get it, yet?

    • http://thecommanderguy.blogspot.com/ The Commander Guy

      Nah….its just wingnut season. Duck!!!

      • simon, too

        No, you’re wrong, and you’re being trolled.

        See?

        It’s so hard, isn’t it, when we leave 1950.

        Heh.

        • http://thecommanderguy.blogspot.com/ The Commander Guy

          Red State board has merged with this one. And you can’t tell one from the other. heh.

          • simon, too

            YOU can’t tell one from the other, they’ve lost the wars, both the Cheney’s, and the K$$, soon to be pigface two.

            At least, those who think like them…

  • ModDem

    Fact is, with out counting Fla and Mich, there will be no Dem in the WH. Counting Fla and Mich, there will be no Obama nominee, that is reality!

    You are assuming Fla and Mich can be won in the general by Hillary.
    Also if you count both states in this primary season Obama still leads in delegates and in popular vote by 94,000 votes.
    At some point you either have to become part of the solution to win the White House or remain part of the problem to keep it in the hands of the Republicans.
    I’m committed to a solution. And that would be voting for Hillary or Obama. That is the way it has to be if we want change.

    • Mel

      Ummmmm using the fair distribution in Michigan, since Edwards was still in then, the delegate breakdown gap closes big time, and the slim lead Obama has vanishes after tuesday in popular votes and could also in delegates!

      That is why Obama is dumping millions into PA, and it isn’t working, he can’t even buy himself a win in a single big state!

      Oh but that is reality and reality is truth, which Obama has proven to be lacking completely and the only good thing is the fraud will likely never survive the whipping he’d get in the GE, so one advantage out of it is a do nothing politician is gone from the political scene after this thing is over with!

  • sandyR

    Why are the Obama people here? I wonder… Did anyone hear a dog whistle?

    Obama neophytes everywhere. Not content with muscling 80 year olds out of their votes… No, they need something MORE. They yearn for something that even they, the incredible prose-ists that they are, cannot articulate. What is it? Hope? Is it hope– that lofty concept that no one had ever heard of before Barack spoke that beautiful word. Hope. Hope. Hop. Hop. Hop. Ho. Yes I believe if we distill that word down to its essence, we find the essence of Barack.. Many people wonder is Obamanerd
    ho or pimp? Is he Michelle’s ho? I don’t know.
    Is he the pimp of the folks who have no self-esteem.
    Could be. What is the appeal? It certainly hasn’t worked on us. Were we simply too stubborn to want the post-intelligent world that he has so pathetically whined for? Were we hardened to whining? Hmmm. Could be. Did we make the terrible mistake in choosing a candidate on merit rather than choosing a person trying to immitate Johnny Cash? Does Johnny Cash care that the Obamanerd has stolen his black suit? Does Obamanerd ever wash that suit? Will the Obamanerd ever complete the outfit with a bow tie to show he isn’t trying to be Johnny Cash, but a crazy ass muslim? I feel that since we are in the presence of greatness– that the Obama trolls have descended from Mt. Olympus or Valhalla or from wherever the great unwashed believes themselves to dwell– we should embrace their presence. And so I try to understand them… to reach out to them… as I would reach out to a small child who likes to play with its own defecation, and say “no honey, that’s not sanitary.”
    But alas, the small child is really hooked on the stuff….
    Hey on a side note: Do you think it’s wrong if I give a shout out to those Republican trolls who might be scampering about? Hey Repubs, I’ve got an ad for you… what do you think of the 3 a.m. type ad, this time showing the phone ringing and you don’t see where Barack is.. and then after a couple of beats you see him snorting a line of coke and maybe he yells “take that damn phone off the hook.”
    What do you think? I kind of like it. Or maybe an ad with Ayers making bombs in the basement of the White House. Or maybe just a poster with Obamanerd giving the finger with the kicker, “Obama speaks for me.” Or maybe same poster with kicker, “Obama speaks to the American people.” I kind of like that last one.
    Obamanerd is toast, and the rats are running off
    the good ship lollypop as it slowly slips into the sea. It’s a shame that they had to stop over here, though. Look, rats… a piece of cheese over at
    the Daily Ho…. run, run, scamper little furry creatures.

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  • mimi

    I’m so glad that this is still being discussed. I tried to post a comment but the section was closed. To the Obama trolls , yes we are serious and it’s you all who are sad.

    Here’s my take and the Obama people ain’t gonna like it:

    After viewing it, I believe he definitely gave her the finger. It’s what the audience is laughing about, not just what he’s saying. Unfortunately, there’s no way to prove this because along with the gesture he makes a scratching motion twice on his cheek to cover it.

    But I’m going to mention something that Barack Obama should be aware of and may not know it because he wasn’t raised in an urban black community. People who constantly scratch their faces tend to be drug users. It’s one of the ways you can identify the behavior because most people don’t touch their faces an awful lot. So if his supporters are trying to make the case that he scratches and touches his face a lot, he might be better off simply ‘ fessing up’ to giving Hillary the finger. It’s the lesser of 2 evils, because he could get a pass on it but not on the other if people think he is using drugs.

    My advice to him is that he might want to refrain from scratching his face too much. It’s a junkie habit. And who stands at a podium in front of an audience talking, and touches, scratches their face anyway? Not very becoming. It lacks stage presence, and poise. It’s a very street and ghetto type thing to do.

    I thought he was supposed to be transcending race?

    • JKFriz

      Here’s my take and the Obama people ain’t gonna like it:

      That’s where you’re wrong – please by all means keep making this argument.

      • simon, too

        See, you know, the republican people keep making the same arguemnet, but they’ve lost three wars(Afghanistan, Iraq, and the greater asymmetrical: political, military, and economic,worldwide,) so someone is trolling them.

        Three wars, and this country is in deep shit.

        That was NOT their intent.

        So, when someone like you tries to muddy it up, I look at your side, and I see a bunch of losers who can’t acieve their goals, and I think, wow, someone is trolling you, because this is politics, and no one’s dance card is ever ever empty, no one ever dances with himself. And despite all the noise, you’ve failed, like the Republicans.

        Heh.

        • simon, too

          Sorry about the typos…

          • JKFriz

            Hey, no worries. I’m scratching my head (not my face, mind you) a little about what argument I’m making that’s so similar to the Republican one – I was just saying that comparing Obama to Dave Chapelle’s “Tyrone” character may not pay dividends for the Clinton campaign. But that’s just me.

            • simon, too

              Disingenuous 101.

              But it tells me more about you than you’d really want to let on, the “cracks” in your head, your fears..

              Trolling in this manner, PR mediocrity and all, is, I think, interfering with the function of democracy.

              There has to be a law against it.

              The idiot pig faces like K$$ discourage regular citizens from discussing on the Internet, I always thought that was, or should be, illegal.

              The treat of stalking, or googlebombs, or hacking behind a veil of supposed anonymity is reprehensible, and discourages democracy.

              Unless, of course, the trolls were being trolled all this time.

              I mean, looked at as a whole, as a strategy out of a McPeak like mind to conquer the Internets, well, good thing he left the air force.

              • simon, too

                Threat, sorry, I’m robo controlling a Kos like troll today, bleed over.

                I’m kidding.

      • mimi

        That’s because where you live you probably never encounter drug users. But where I live the black community has been decimated for ages by drug use. Scratching is an telltale sign.

        But what I was really pointing out was that, Obama supporters might want to refrain from saying things like he does this sort of thing all the time. It’s not a good defense for him.

        And I stand by my statement that it really does look street and ghetto to stand in front of an audience making gestures like that.

        Once again, wasn’t he supposed to be transcending race?

    • Jeff

      “My advice to him is that he might want to refrain from scratching his face too much. It’s a junkie habit. And who stands at a podium in front of an audience talking, and touches, scratches their face anyway?”

      Can Wolfson get this into the AM Conference Call? It’s DYN-O-MITE!

  • bubbleboy

    Many people wonder is Obamanerd
    ho or pimp? Is he Michelle’s ho? I don’t know.

    Ah yes, there’s that famous Clinton supporter maturity I’ve been hearing so much about.

    • simon, too

      You know, Fox is very pertinent to a large segment of voters.

      And from what I have read here, it’s been a non stop Obama expose, and Dean has done NOTHING to counter the image, and the truth, really, Fox is painting.

      So, Obama has lost, while Howard Dean does what, exactly?

      Secondly, given Obama has screwed up FL and MI, it’s hard to tell which way those states would go if Hillary were to win the nomination, given no one can guage the feel there.

      Will MI and FL blame the mess on Obama?

      If Clinton wins, does Dean go?

      If a bombshell comes about in regard to Obama, how are the democrats affected, esp those who supported Obama?

      So many variables.

      • Jeff

        “So many variables.”

        So much bullshit.

        • simon, too

          Says the loser.

          yes, yes you have so much credibilty.

          You lost.

  • http://larrysinclair0926.wordpress.com/answers-to-faqs/ Obamba Bin Ladin

    If this is nothing going on why has their been a huge troll invasion of this blog? Sure looks like the trolls panties are in knots over this.

    • http://www.oohnuance.blogspot.com madamab

      They are seeing that their beloved Emperor has no clothes.

      He got whipped really badly in that debate. He couldn’t even answer the more issues-based questions. Honestly, I have no clue why anyone would think he’s ready to be President.

      He should have spent more time in the Senate and amassed some experience. Right now, he’s just showing that he’s a spoiled, immature little brat who whines everytime he doesn’t get his way.

      I’m tired of seeing that crap in the White House. I want a strong, competent and confident leader like Hillary. Obama might be okay as VP, but after what he’s been doing lately, I even doubt that.

  • Amanda

    I’m amazed at Obama’s cult followers calling for “unity” to put a democrat at the WH when at the same time they have done nothing but trash the last two-term most succesfull dem president. If putting a democrat in office is that important, why talk (Obama) about taking advice only from the repug presidents (the Senior) of follow in the footsteps of Reagan and dismissing the progress of the 90′s?

  • deke

    It is amazing Obama obviously gave a obscene gesture to
    Clinton and the Obama employees trying to earn their $1.50 per hour are on this site with their smirkey remarks. Clinton represents at least 50% of the democratic party and the Obama idiots are doing their best to alienate them. They don’t try and discuss the issue because they don’t know them so they just come here and call all of us names. They are as dumb as their leader.

  • ModDem

    simon
    Either way, both MALE candidates are crippled, like Bush and Cheney.

    Where have you been for 8 years?
    Bush and Cheney got the war they wanted. Nobody stopped them!
    Bush got the Supreme Court to go further to the Right than it has been in 60 years!
    The economy? check
    The environment? check
    Corporate America? check
    I can only conclude that you think the Bush Administration is not too bad. Because, believe me, it has not been ‘crippled’ at all. Bush may have the lowest ratings of any president in our history – but history will show he pretty much carried out his vision.
    With McCain it will continue.
    Vote Democratic. Vote for change.

    • simon, too

      No, Bush and Cheney are sitting on a house of cards.

      Look deeper.
      All the things you have mentioned can be corrected easily, like changing a flat tire.

      No problem, swift!

      But you know, the Constitution still stands, there is no permanent republcian majority, and the population is now starting to beat the trolls.

      Sadly, like most trolls, you fail to see the bigger international picture.

      What’s the goal for the US, for the next thirty years?

      With Russia, and the Middle East, China, Russia?

      See what I mean about a lack of ciritcal thinking skills for republican trolls?

      • simon, too

        Chinese Russian energy alliance, sorry.

    • deke

      ModDem
      What makes you think with Obama it would be any better. He states he will keep the private contractors in Iraq (our biggest source of problems in Iraq), his economic advisors are all disciples of Milton Freedman (godfather of Reaganomics), he votede for Chaney’s oil bill (only norther Dem to do so), he was unresponsive to the plight of the people in his only state legislative district, and he has demonstrated only to work on things that will be to his benefit. I have always voted democratic but I have been fooled to many times by the so called next coming (see Kerry, Dukatis , Dean).

      If McCain was so bad why was he Kerry’s first choice for VP.

  • ebonyscrews

    Well, other than demonstrating that he’s a whining pussy, Snotbox did also show us his numorous side, and what a riot he’d be as a stand-up comic. This line in particular will live in infamy:

    “I’m a hotdog superstar! I ain’t got time for debates. Yeah! No more debates! I don’t want no more debates–you hear me, woman!! Don’t be coming to my part of town asking me for a debate because you ain’t gettin none of this! Not no more!”

  • Catriley

    Okay. I’m done with the trolls. They’ve come here and really, it was nice to tussle with them a bit because they’re so damn amusing and predictable. But I’m done engaging them. They’ll get bored, need to take a bathroom break from all the Red Bull they’ve been drinking, and maybe stop to play some hacky sack. I’ll check back later.

    After all.. they’ve proclaimed that: “WE DON’T NEED YOUR VOTE” That’s ays it all, folks. Oh, and the fact that they’ve thrown that word “intervention” around, which makes it clear that the one commenter was correct, it was a coordinated effort today.

    • simon, too

      But they were the ones hurt.

      What if they gave a troll, and no one bit?

      See, the problems with not knowing yourself, or seeing yourself, others can play you like an F board, and you never know.

    • deke

      You are so right I didn’t recognize most of the names. Obama campaign must of had some extra walking around money to through at some college kids to come here and try a lay waste to a pro-Clinton site.

    • ebonyscrews

      My response to them is simple: I’m American before I’m a Democrat, and don’t you be trying to wiggle that unity pony under my nose because I done been smelt that skunk and I want No part of it, Markos & co., and all of their terrorist sympathizing, angry, intolerant, radical loonybins can kiss my Centrist Democrat ass.

  • ModDem

    simon
    Pyrrhic victory?
    How do you fix the Supreme Court? If McCain wins he Supreme Court will get more conservative judges and they stay around for years.
    How do you fix the deficit so quickly?

    deke
    I don’t see Obama as a Republican. And didn’t Hillary vote for the authorization to go to war? Her actions are not necessarily in line with progressive Democrats either.
    Also let’s not forget that a vote for McCain is not just a vote for one man. It would be a vote for his entire Republican Administration as well as his VP who could one day become president.

    Amanda
    I thought Bill Clinton was a good president and I think Hillary would be just as good. I would vote for her in the General election without hesitation. I ask for unity simply because the idea of a Democratic administration in the White House is more desirable than a Republican administration.

    • Jeff

      “I ask for unity simply because the idea of a Democratic administration in the White House is more desirable than a Republican administration.”

      It’s a very nice sentiment, and the correct way to go. Unfortunately, the vast majority of commenters here are Republicans already.

    • deke

      Do a little research on who is formally advising Obama for the most part they are not from the progessive wing of the democratic party. He was very supportive of Bush’s nominations to the Supreme Court that should give anybody pause to wonder the kind of people he would nominate. Plus he has been getting a awful lot of support from the prolife crowd what is that all about.
      And you still didn’t answer WHY WAS JOHN MCCAIN KERRY’S FIRST CHOICE FOR VP.

      • Jeff

        “He was very supportive of Bush’s nominations to the Supreme Court.”

        With the exception of voting against them.

        • simon, too

          Jeff, you need to look at the reasoning, things arent always what they seem, it’s a bit more complex than you appear to be able to grasp.

          • allimom99

            WRONG – he voted for Roberts. Do your homework. Or isn’t that on Obama’s website for us to just look it up?

    • Amanda

      ModDem, after months of trashing Clinton/s you seem to think that is OK to now “let’s get together, in a sweet harmony”? I’m not saying you did the trashing personally, but I used to read DK, and once in a while I browse the Huff. Enough said.

      Plus, this is not about parties only. I don’t think Obama will make a good president. At this point, if Hillary does not get nominated, I will work to get dems in Congress so that McCain cannot get away with his repug agenda.

    • simon, too

      Supreme court?

      At an extreme, Congress can always override the decisions, and keep any issue at play for as long as the public demands, look at gun control, or abortion.

      There is rumored to be much corruption in terms of this supreme court, what if they were to be investigated, or impeached?

      Flat tire, there is ALWAYS remedy.

      Remember the SC gave us Dred Scott, Plessy V Ferguson, too, we survived.

  • Jeff

    Robert Reich Endorsing Obama. Another former Clintonista…

    http://nymag.com/daily/intel/2008/04/heilemann_robert_reich_to_endo.html

    • simon, too

      And a piece of crap, as I remember, endorses Bush’s old school supply side economics.

      If there was a method to clean out all the ivy league posers, this appears to be it, with Obama, like flies on shit.

      Wow, and it only took one wash.

      I thought it would take years.

  • Jeff

    “But beyond the bald fact of Reich’s support for Obama, the Clinton campaign should pay heed to the reasoning behind it. In his disgust with Hillary’s increasingly harsh tactics, Reich is hardly alone. Indeed, the feeling seems to be spreading more broadly in the party with every passing day. It’s been clear for some time that Hillary’s attacks on Obama were driving up her negatives. You could certainly argue this might be a price worth paying if those attacks were amping up doubts about him. But it’s hard to see any logic — or even sanity — in the tactic if the result is to drive even people who once regarded Hillary dearly into Obama’s arms.”

    http://nymag.com/daily/intel/2008/04/heilemann_robert_reich_to_endo.html

    • simon, too

      See above post.

      Honestly, I had discussed this problem with some people, the Obama like academics who know nothing, whole generations of ivy league posers given over to greed, corruption, specious academics, and selfishness, and how to get rid of them, get tehm out of government, encouraging the better ivy leaders, and their academic counterparts from other universities, to sieze the reins, clearing the way for strong leadership, once again, no pigfaces allowed.

      Hooking up with Barry appears to be a masterstroke.

  • ModDem

    deke

    McCain was considered by Kerry because McCain was a moderate who Kerry thought could help him get the moderate independent voters.
    But what you are failing to understand is that if McCain wins he will be surrounded by Republicans – many of whom no doubt will be very conservative. If he had been VP with Kerry he would probably been the only Republican in sight – thus neutered.
    Also look at McCain’s statements of late. Does he sound like a moderate anymore? Does staying 100 years in Iraq sound moderate to you? Does his pandering to Christian Conservatives sounds moderate?

    • deke

      Good talking points the 100years in Iraq quote was agree with by Obama. I don’t agree with McCain on this but I understand his argument and he has valid points. What has Obama done in 6 years to get us out of Iraq or to lessen the impact on our soldiers.
      Kerry nominated McCain because he wanted to create a new coalition of moderate voices something Obama doesn’t understand just talks about. If he did create a coalition it would be modeled after his senate mentor Joe Lieberman. McCain has been rebuffing the Christian Conservatives Dobson said McCain hasn’t visited him yet and McCains response was he can come to see me.
      Why don’t you talk about his economic advisors or do you have to consultant with your boss to find out what to say. Asked him about Goolsbee and Weiner.
      When you come to a pro Clinton site try to have some real facts on your side not talking points.

  • deke

    Oh by the way whats with the vote for the Chaney energy bill and Obama taking out langauge in a bill that would be detrimental to Exelon.

  • http://LaughteratBirdFlipping sedonarock35

    The women laughing and joking in the background of the bird flipping
    incident gave me a chilling remembrance of videos I have seen with
    white people laughing and jeering while a black man is being lynched,
    or already dead. It is the same disconnection from feelings and
    reality, and the “group think” process of mocking the subject of
    projected rage, watching cruelty unfold before your own eyes. Women
    are still fair game for this treatment, and Hillary has courageously
    withstood these attacks for 17 years.

    • deke

      Great observation

    • JKFriz

      Sooo…I know what folks are gonna say, but this doesn’t strike any of you as a little over-the-top?

      And for the 400th time – Obama did not flip anyone off:
      http://www.mydd.com/comments/2008/4/18/102120/357/8#8

      • simon, too

        Nobody cares what you think, anymore, it’s not like Obama has credibilty.

        Honestly, who is being trolled here?

  • MessyMarcy

    “don’t hate you try waking up!”

    Please, could we have a coherent troll next time?

  • lifelong dem leaving party

    April 18th, 2008 11:54 am ET

    I think that Mrs. Clinton will probably win in PA. That state has suffered from economic downturns for over a decade. As a result, the states best and brightest have left. You may not like what Barack said in San Francisco, but it is true. Pennsylvania has suffered a “brain drain” for 10+ years. What’s left are the less educated and enlightened voters – Mrs. Clinton’s core constituency

    this is a copy of a comment i found on cnn. it clearly demonstrates the obamaites’ disdain for pennsylvanians, a disdain he clearly shares.

    i wonder how pennsylvanians take to being told that the “best and brightest” have left and the state has “brain drain” and “what’s left are the less educated and enlightened voters.”

    wonder why obamaites so love to insult the very people whose votes they’re trying to get.

    • simon, too

      How has Penn suffered a brain drain?

      Really, hasn’t Penn been subjected to the same stresses as the rest of the nation, all victims of Bush and Cheney’s spastic thinking?

      Really, who lost three wars and screwed things up, rationalizing corruption?

      You did, “brains.”

      BTW, the above comment is how Obama supporters think.

      Very specious, see why they make such bad decisions?

      • Fred C. Dobbs

        >>> …Bush and Cheney’s spastic thinking?

        Bush/Cheney “thinking” is an embarassment to assholes, dipshits, morons, sophomoric twits, whiners, megalomaniacs, tyrants and pencil-necked, needle-d*****d weenies everywhere.

        Idi Amin AND Mother Teresa would tell these clowns to fuck off.

        Woody would come out of his coma to write a bad song about them.

        Only cheap dope, free TV and a massively-deficient intellect on the part of the Electorate keep the country from a low-level Revolution.

        But I mean that in a GOOD way…

        “If God didn’t want them sheared, he would not have made them sheep.” - Calvera; The Magnificent Seven

    • JM

      It’s just another way of saying “uneducated whites” vot for President Hillary Clinton”.

      “What’s left are the less educated and enlightened voters – Mrs. Clinton’s core constituency” is such a patently stupid thing to say anytime.

  • Fred C. Dobbs

    Accident or deliberate, the finger business just reinforces Hope-a-Dope’s amateur standing.

    The Obamabots are just miffed because Hilla the Hun has larger testicles than Mister Wonderful.

  • http://nobloodforhubris.blogspot.com No Blood for Hubris

    “What’s left are the less educated and enlightened voters – Mrs. Clinton’s core constituency”

    Yeah, rite, all us Clinton supporters iz just so STEW-PID.

    Iff’n we wurn’t so STEW-pid we’d be kewl wid votin fer new change new shiny hope change new new Barry The Prom King.

    • Fred C. Dobbs

      Then our chirrun could, on their Senior Trip to D.C., get to shake they boo-tees to the sounds of The Boss (Springstine) and Quincy Jones over on Pennsylvania Avenue at, “O’s Juke.”

  • http://snafuprinciple.blogspot.com DJ

    This is the state of democracy? People calling a clear face scratch flipping the bird? Pathetic.

    Grow up.

    What are those “many angles”? Where are they?

    Oh. Here’s one:

    http://tinyurl.com/4zly4g

    This is flipping the bird:

    http://tinyurl.com/4gwaoa

    And, for all your diehard Democrats, Newsday is reporting that this flap is a Republican scheme, and they’re promoting it…

    How’s it feel to be a pawn of the GOP?

    http://tinyurl.com/46r3tr

  • ModDem

    deke
    What facts do you have that Obama doesn’t understand but just talks about when it comes to building a moderate coalition?
    - First he is running a campaign so he has to talk about it. Campaigns are about talk.
    - Second Obama did form a coalition with Sen Coburn a Conservative Republican over a bill regarding oversight of where your Federal dollars go.
    - Third I’m not here to pick a fight. I’m here to say I support whomever the Democratic nominee is. Maybe we can agree to disagree but McCain will not back off from Bush’s policies from what I can tell.

    Next, why are so many so upset with what the Obama supporters say about Hillary? How can you complain of Obama’s thin skin and yet cry over the anti Hillary people? Please realize that a vote for Obama is a vote for Obama – not for Daily Kos or Huffington Post or Keith Olbermann.

    • lifelong dem leaving party

      i do realize that a vote for obama is a vote for obama. that is why i will never vote for obama.

      clear enough?

    • deke

      Took you awhile to get your talking points looked up. He has never taken a position that was a coalition building position. The bill with Coburn was very widely supported. Sometimes building a coalition is about being outspoken and taking leadership. No where in his entire legislative career has he been out front on anything that would be looked upon by his constituency as controversial. His early state senate career was unremarkable and it wasn’t until the leadership of the state senate decided to make him a US Senator did he start to sponsor legislation.
      I have seen the effects personally of self rightous democratic politicians ie Elliot Spitzer and I see the same personality tracts in Obama.
      I don’t think you know what it is to be a Democratic. Go visit Hyde Park and you will understand what coalition building is about.
      I have worked in Democratic politics for 35 years and he is the most arrogant self serving politician running for president I have ever seen come out of the democratic party.

  • http://snafuprinciple.blogspot.com DJ

    This is so deep!

    Geebus. This is why people don’t vote.

    This thread.

  • Shibam8p

    Obama insulted the small town folks in Penn, that was a low blow to the people… anything is possible.

    I bet Chris thigh will tingle again if saw this Obama’s new gesture.

  • Taylor Marsh

    I don’t think this is that offensive. I can tell you from first person experience that man can do some amazing things with that finger.

  • ModDem

    deke
    Okay, so it has come to the point where you are a better Democrat because you support Hillary but hate Obama compared to me who will support either candidate when the November election comes?
    I thought being a Democrat meant supporting the Democratic nominee no matter who they are?
    You do have legit concerns. But I hope you understand that many of the pro-Hillary anti-Obama views are not different than the people at Daily Kos who spout the same hate – only in reverse. Show me some mature Democrats on both sides. We need them to defeat McCain.

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