Comments on: Who’s Running the White House? [Updates] http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/22259/whos-running-the-white-house/ Sun, 27 May 2012 08:25:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.4 By: stodgie http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/22259/whos-running-the-white-house/#comment-1194388 stodgie Fri, 24 Apr 2009 03:17:42 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=22259#comment-1194388 gerald webb is a tool for the obots. yawn, kinda of boring isn't he? gerald webb is a tool for the obots. yawn, kinda of boring isn’t he?

]]> By: stodgie http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/22259/whos-running-the-white-house/#comment-1194387 stodgie Fri, 24 Apr 2009 03:14:31 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=22259#comment-1194387 gerald, take a hike and take your attitude with you. gerald, take a hike and take your attitude with you.

]]> By: alex http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/22259/whos-running-the-white-house/#comment-1194042 alex Thu, 23 Apr 2009 19:10:50 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=22259#comment-1194042 ¿Quién es Gerald Webb? Does he work for the Obama entourage? He is all about protecting the war criminal Obama no matter what idiocy or ridiculousness he spouts. Mr. Obama has no loyaly to the USA or the citizens here and I cannot figure out why he wanted the job-other than the information in "The Obama Deception". I wish he would just get tired of the position and resign. Although at this point, there is enough to impeach him- warehouse553 you are so right- democrats were in control for 2 years. They did nothing but go along. I do not like politicians. The only group as morally bankrupt and sleazy as them are educational policy makers-people supposed to be concerned about educating the youth. ¿Quién es Gerald Webb? Does he work for the Obama entourage? He is all about protecting the war criminal Obama no matter what idiocy or ridiculousness he spouts. Mr. Obama has no loyaly to the USA or the citizens here and I cannot figure out why he wanted the job-other than the information in “The Obama Deception”. I wish he would just get tired of the position and resign. Although at this point, there is enough to impeach him-
warehouse553 you are so right- democrats were in control for 2 years. They did nothing but go along.
I do not like politicians. The only group as morally bankrupt and sleazy as them are educational policy makers-people supposed to be concerned about educating the youth.

]]> By: Patrick Henry http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/22259/whos-running-the-white-house/#comment-1193995 Patrick Henry Thu, 23 Apr 2009 17:53:06 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=22259#comment-1193995 Grrrrr..back to all that Meowing... I said "Homely"..as in Plain..NOT 'Ugly.".and I never even came close to suggesting Women being" Bitches that Cackle ".. Janet Reno is Homely..and her policys including the shooting a Mother holding her baby at Ruby ridge because Janet Reno considered right wingers and survivalists the real enemys of America.. Sure...some are very dangerous...like the Mexican and African American gangs are.. I remember several political cartoon making Fun of George Bush and Dick Cheneys looks and Barack Obamas big ears.... BTW..I also consider Barney Frank Homely..and as a democrat I am sometimes embarrassed by Pelosi.. BTW #2..I was a Hillary Clinton delegate.. BTW #3..In spite some people going over the Top..I am still a strong PUMA~ Supporter.. Grrrr... Grrrrr..back to all that Meowing…

I said “Homely”..as in Plain..NOT ‘Ugly.”.and I never even came close to suggesting Women being” Bitches that Cackle “..

Janet Reno is Homely..and her policys including the shooting a Mother holding her baby at Ruby ridge because Janet Reno considered right wingers and survivalists the real enemys of America..

Sure…some are very dangerous…like the Mexican and African American gangs are..

I remember several political cartoon making Fun of George Bush and Dick Cheneys looks and Barack Obamas big ears….

BTW..I also consider Barney Frank Homely..and as a democrat I am sometimes embarrassed by Pelosi..

BTW #2..I was a Hillary Clinton delegate..

BTW #3..In spite some people going over the Top..I am still a strong PUMA~ Supporter..

Grrrr…

]]> By: Ani http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/22259/whos-running-the-white-house/#comment-1193959 Ani Thu, 23 Apr 2009 16:35:52 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=22259#comment-1193959 Absolutely. This is completely sexist. How many "homely" male politicians are out there and we never hear a word about their appearance -- we do not grade them, and degrade them, in the same way. Absolutely. This is completely sexist. How many “homely” male politicians are out there and we never hear a word about their appearance — we do not grade them, and degrade them, in the same way.

]]> By: Rob G in Chicago http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/22259/whos-running-the-white-house/#comment-1193941 Rob G in Chicago Thu, 23 Apr 2009 15:47:51 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=22259#comment-1193941 The President and other constitutional officers take the following oath of office: "I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will faithfully execute the Office of President of the United States, and will to the best of my Ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States." This is an oath to preserve, protect and defend the Constitution. The oath places preservation, protection and defense of the Constitution above any duty to the country itself or the scared and whiney citizens of this country. We are supposed to be a county of laws, and our legal precedents have already held on several occasions that waterboarding constitutes illegal torture; end of story. The ends don't and can't constitutionally justify the means. The President and other constitutional officers take the following oath of office:

“I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will faithfully execute the Office of President of the United States, and will to the best of my Ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States.”

This is an oath to preserve, protect and defend the Constitution. The oath places preservation, protection and defense of the Constitution above any duty to the country itself or the scared and whiney citizens of this country. We are supposed to be a county of laws, and our legal precedents have already held on several occasions that waterboarding constitutes illegal torture; end of story. The ends don’t and can’t constitutionally justify the means.

]]> By: Rob G in Chicago http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/22259/whos-running-the-white-house/#comment-1193936 Rob G in Chicago Thu, 23 Apr 2009 15:27:08 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=22259#comment-1193936 Napolitano was wrong about the 9/11 terrorists, but Ahmed Ressam was captured coming from Canada to the State of Washington on December 14, 1999, in furtherance of a plot set for New Years against the airport in Los Angeles. Napolitano was wrong about the 9/11 terrorists, but Ahmed Ressam was captured coming from Canada to the State of Washington on December 14, 1999, in furtherance of a plot set for New Years against the airport in Los Angeles.

]]> By: FLDemFem http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/22259/whos-running-the-white-house/#comment-1193917 FLDemFem Thu, 23 Apr 2009 14:56:33 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=22259#comment-1193917 The President cannot declare war. Only Congress can declare war. Bush got authority to use military force, which is very different from a declaration of war. The President cannot declare war. Only Congress can declare war. Bush got authority to use military force, which is very different from a declaration of war.

]]> By: Kathleen Wynne http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/22259/whos-running-the-white-house/#comment-1193907 Kathleen Wynne Thu, 23 Apr 2009 14:34:13 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=22259#comment-1193907 Eastan, Check out these links regarding who's controlling Obama and the Democratic party: http://www.rense.com/general80/sor.htm http://blog.b92.net/text/5106/Obama%20i%20Soros,%20ili%20Soros%20i%20Obama/ http://www.canadafreepress.com/index.php/site/comments/obama-endorses-soros-plan-to-loot-america/ Eastan,

Check out these links regarding who’s controlling Obama and the Democratic party:

http://www.rense.com/general80/sor.htm

http://blog.b92.net/text/5106/Obama%20i%20Soros,%20ili%20Soros%20i%20Obama/

http://www.canadafreepress.com/index.php/site/comments/obama-endorses-soros-plan-to-loot-america/

]]> By: Donna "Abigail Adams" Brazile http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/22259/whos-running-the-white-house/#comment-1193889 Donna "Abigail Adams" Brazile Thu, 23 Apr 2009 13:51:20 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=22259#comment-1193889 Ger-old: There are lots of things That One could do to please me, he just hasn't done any yet. He's just OBush. Stop the lovefest! Ger-old:

There are lots of things That One could do to please me, he just hasn’t done any yet. He’s just OBush.

Stop the lovefest!

]]> By: Owllwoman http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/22259/whos-running-the-white-house/#comment-1193888 Owllwoman Thu, 23 Apr 2009 13:42:53 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=22259#comment-1193888 I have been thinking along the same lines. Is it right to continue these drone attacks, and how many innocents have been killed? What is the difference between torture and killing? Oh, but don't look at the man behind the curtain. Obarky doesn't have the knowledge or experience to have the job as President. That is becoming quite clear. I have been thinking along the same lines. Is it right to continue these drone attacks, and how many innocents have been killed? What is the difference between torture and killing? Oh, but don’t look at the man behind the curtain. Obarky doesn’t have the knowledge or experience to have the job as President. That is becoming quite clear.

]]> By: Owllwoman http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/22259/whos-running-the-white-house/#comment-1193887 Owllwoman Thu, 23 Apr 2009 13:36:01 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=22259#comment-1193887 Well, if they go after Bush and Cheney, then they should go after every Senator and Congressman who were briefed, passed legislation and funded these programs. Nancy Pelosi even wanted stronger methods used. They are not without guilt. Its just a shame that 9-11 is now being used as a political tool. How quickly we have forgotten these fews years later and now have puffed ourselves up. Those familys who lost loved ones haven't forgotten. This will divide this Country and nothing good will come out of it. Well, if they go after Bush and Cheney, then they should go after every Senator and Congressman who were briefed, passed legislation and funded these programs. Nancy Pelosi even wanted stronger methods used. They are not without guilt. Its just a shame that 9-11 is now being used as a political tool. How quickly we have forgotten these fews years later and now have puffed ourselves up. Those familys who lost loved ones haven’t forgotten. This will divide this Country and nothing good will come out of it.

]]> By: mountainaires http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/22259/whos-running-the-white-house/#comment-1193882 mountainaires Thu, 23 Apr 2009 13:25:43 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=22259#comment-1193882 I want public hearings, and accountability for the torture memos, which led to the criminal violations of US law, and international treaties. I don't give a rats' ass about whether or not Al-Qaeda can watch them; or whether or not they download documents from the WH web site. That is the point: We are supposed to hold to a higher moral ground than Al-Qaeda. By becoming Al-Qaeda, they know, and we know, that we have lost that high moral ground, which gives us the right to call them evil. Evil is, as Evil does. Torture is evil. When we do it; we are evil. And, if a Texas Sheriff was prosecuted by the DOJ and convicted of waterboarding in 1983 by a jury, then the authors of the torture memos, and the WH officials who designed the torture program, and also attempted to hide the memos which DISSENTED from that torture program, then it was a deliberate conspiracy to violate US law, and international treaties. If we do not prosecute, then we are complicit in those criminal and moral violations. <strong>The question is: Do we or do we not adhere to the rule of law in the United States? We must publicly answer to that question. </strong> <strong>DOJ Prosecuted Texas Sheriff in 1983 For Waterboarding Prisoners </strong> Written by Jason Leopold Tuesday, 21 April 2009 21:47 By Jason Leopold http://www.pubrecord.org/torture/854-doj-prosecuted-texas-sheriff-in-1983-for-waterboarding-prisoners.html <blockquote>In 1983, the Justice Department prosecuted a Texas sheriff and three of his deputies for waterboarding prisoners to get them to confess to crimes. The deputies were sentenced to four years in prison and Parker pleaded guilty to extortion and federal civil rights violations and received a 10-year sentence. Parker admitted that he had operated a “marijuana trap” on U.S. Highway 59, arrested suspects, and, according to court documents, subjected “prisoners to a suffocating water torture ordeal in order to coerce confessions. “This generally included the placement of a towel over the nose and mouth of the prisoner and the pouring of water in the towel until the prisoner began to move, jerk, or otherwise indicate that he was suffocating and/or drowning,” the complaint said, which referred to the technique as “water torture.” Yet nowhere in the four “torture” memos released by the Justice Department last week that authorized the CIA to waterboard detainees do the attorneys who drafted the legal opinions mention the federal case U.S. v Parker et al, in which San Jacinto County Sheriff James Parker and three deputies-- Carl Lee, Floyd Allen Baker and John Glover—were found guilty of torturing at least six prisoners between 1976 and 1980 in a rural part of the state 60 miles outside of Houston. The failure to cite U.S v Parker, as well as a half-dozen other precedent setting cases that dealt with torture, is reportedly one of the critical findings of a Justice Department watchdog report that legal sources said concluded “professional standards” were violated by former Office of Legal Counsel chiefs Jay Bybee and Steven Bradbury and former Deputy Assistant Attorney General John Yoo. </blockquote> I want public hearings, and accountability for the torture memos, which led to the criminal violations of US law, and international treaties. I don’t give a rats’ ass about whether or not Al-Qaeda can watch them; or whether or not they download documents from the WH web site. That is the point: We are supposed to hold to a higher moral ground than Al-Qaeda. By becoming Al-Qaeda, they know, and we know, that we have lost that high moral ground, which gives us the right to call them evil. Evil is, as Evil does. Torture is evil. When we do it; we are evil.

And, if a Texas Sheriff was prosecuted by the DOJ and convicted of waterboarding in 1983 by a jury, then the authors of the torture memos, and the WH officials who designed the torture program, and also attempted to hide the memos which DISSENTED from that torture program, then it was a deliberate conspiracy to violate US law, and international treaties. If we do not prosecute, then we are complicit in those criminal and moral violations.

The question is: Do we or do we not adhere to the rule of law in the United States? We must publicly answer to that question.

DOJ Prosecuted Texas Sheriff in 1983 For Waterboarding Prisoners
Written by Jason Leopold
Tuesday, 21 April 2009 21:47
By Jason Leopold
http://www.pubrecord.org/torture/854-doj-prosecuted-texas-sheriff-in-1983-for-waterboarding-prisoners.html

In 1983, the Justice Department prosecuted a Texas sheriff and three of his deputies for waterboarding prisoners to get them to confess to crimes.

The deputies were sentenced to four years in prison and Parker pleaded guilty to extortion and federal civil rights violations and received a 10-year sentence. Parker admitted that he had operated a “marijuana trap” on U.S. Highway 59, arrested suspects, and, according to court documents, subjected “prisoners to a suffocating water torture ordeal in order to coerce confessions.

“This generally included the placement of a towel over the nose and mouth of the prisoner and the pouring of water in the towel until the prisoner began to move, jerk, or otherwise indicate that he was suffocating and/or drowning,” the complaint said, which referred to the technique as “water torture.”

Yet nowhere in the four “torture” memos released by the Justice Department last week that authorized the CIA to waterboard detainees do the attorneys who drafted the legal opinions mention the federal case U.S. v Parker et al, in which San Jacinto County Sheriff James Parker and three deputies– Carl Lee, Floyd Allen Baker and John Glover—were found guilty of torturing at least six prisoners between 1976 and 1980 in a rural part of the state 60 miles outside of Houston.

The failure to cite U.S v Parker, as well as a half-dozen other precedent setting cases that dealt with torture, is reportedly one of the critical findings of a Justice Department watchdog report that legal sources said concluded “professional standards” were violated by former Office of Legal Counsel chiefs Jay Bybee and Steven Bradbury and former Deputy Assistant Attorney General John Yoo.

]]> By: Teresaa http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/22259/whos-running-the-white-house/#comment-1193881 Teresaa Thu, 23 Apr 2009 13:25:24 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=22259#comment-1193881 I love the "but they were only following orders and shouldn't be tried" line. Didn't that apply at Neuremburg (sp) too? I love the “but they were only following orders and shouldn’t be tried” line.

Didn’t that apply at Neuremburg (sp) too?

]]> By: Bob Baer on Torture’s Ineffectiveness : NO QUARTER http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/22259/whos-running-the-white-house/#comment-1193880 Bob Baer on Torture’s Ineffectiveness : NO QUARTER Thu, 23 Apr 2009 13:16:25 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=22259#comment-1193880 [...] For more from Bob Baer, see the CNN interview below the fold in my earlier piece, “Who’s Running the White House? [Updates].” [...] [...] For more from Bob Baer, see the CNN interview below the fold in my earlier piece, “Who’s Running the White House? [Updates].” [...]

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