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Would You Like To Meet The Man The Weather Underground Paralyzed?

Like Barry Obama says, he was 8 years old when Bill Ayers and Bernardine Dohrn led the group of pond scum that wreaked havoc upon America with their bombs and Guerrilla warfare. So I guess the fact that they caused countless strife and pain and fear into the hearts of America doesn’t count because Barry was 8 years old. He sees no reason not to hang around with them. After all, they aren’t bombing anything right now, right? Well of course Ayers has already stated that he didn’ t think they did enough, and he hasn’t ruled out another crack at it. But Barry still thinks that’s nothing.

I would like to introduce you to the Honorable Richard Elrod, the man who was paralyzed by the Weather Underground. I don’t have information on the cop they killed yet, but I will.

In 1969, Brian Flanagan and the radical antiwar group Weatherman unleashed mayhem on the streets of Chicago. Richard Elrod, an ambitious lawyer, worked for the city to stop the chaos. As the Days of Rage climaxed, the two men had a violent encounter that forever altered their lives-and produced an indelible image that reverberates still.

The man, 72 now, lifts the photograph with a grip light as a soft pinch and draws it toward his eyes like a jeweler holding up an exquisite but slightly flawed stone. He is natty in a gray pinstriped suit with a pink pocket square and a pale pink tie. His crutches lie on the floor just behind his immaculately ordered desk. Through the window of his 25th-floor judge’s chamber a gray sky pulls a cheerless curtain across the late afternoon.

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“He is there, in the photo, sprawled on the ground, an arm flung over his head, mouth open, paralyzed on a downtown Chicago sidewalk. A step or two away, in a manner equally suggestive of violence, his adversary lies torso-twisted into the entrance of a doorway, hovered over by three men, one bearing a club. There is something intimate about the image, as if the two men were victims of the same assailant rather than ideological enemies whose bodies-and fates-had just collided. Only later would they realize how much that was true.”

In the photo above, you are looking at Judge Elrod on the left as a young man, on his back on the ground, with a broken neck. The piece of crap Flanagan is on the ground to the right. He would later be charged with attempted murder.

“To this day, the men offer conflicting accounts of what happened that afternoon.”

But of course. When in doubt, believe the Weather Underground. Barry would. As we all know, they were such fine upstanding citizens of Peace.

Like Elrod, Flanagan has been asked his impressions of the photograph. Unlike his long-ago adversary, however, Flanagan scarcely hesitates before giving them. “It’s all right there,” he says. “There’s Elrod,” he says. “There’s me. . . . He’s crippled for life; I’m about to be hauled off to jail, and you’ve got a bunch of horrible wretched cops who are about to lie about the whole thing.”

He shrugs and offers a wry smile.

What else would a scumball do but smile, right? You can see Flanagan’s mug if you click on the story link. As for me, I didn’t think I wanted his mug to filthy up my blog.

So Barry, say hi to Bill for all of us. We know you like him a lot, and we admit that he fits in really well with many of the rest of your friends who are supporting your run for the most powerful person in the world.

  • http://noquarterusa.net/ SusanUnPC

    What a story. I just checked the magazine article, and there are photos of the two men as they look today.

    It wasn’t quite as romantic as Mr. Ayers, rather selectively, remembers.

  • http://www.myspace.com/rokski Paul F. Villarreal AKA “Universal” AKA “RokSki”

    Bill Ayers is a disgrace, and that belief is not only based on what he did in his youth, but his remarks made in print on 9/11/01.

    Barack Barry Bamboozlin’ Hussein Obama is ‘friendly’ with this man, this domestic terrorist. And he is chummy with him after those unrepentant remarks of 9/11.

    They’ve given speeches at the same events. Planned events which I believe Michelle has helped to arrange (pretty sure this applies to at least on event).

    Bill Ayers and his wife. Michelle. Tony Rezko. Jeremiah Wright.

    These are the people whom Barack Obama has chosen as life partners, spiritual advisers, fundraisers and pals.

    Oh, it’s guilt by association. This means nothing.

    No, actually, it’s guilt by PREPONDERANCE of associationS. This is not a one-time thing for Barack; these are the people he has repeatedly chosen to surround himself with and befriend. Same goes for Khalidi.

    That leads me to this announcement:

    I have made a few changes over at my website, VillarrealSports.com, adding a new section dedicated to just news and politics, complete with a forum for each. This is a change from having both topics subsumed underneath the “General Off-Topic” forum.

    Also, I wanted to let people know that my brother (the owner of the site) and I are going to be holding a contest for the best post in the following thread:

    What is the worst thing about Barack Obama (as a presidential candidate)?

    We’re not sure exactly how we’re going to judge which is the best post, but the judgment will be based on who provides the best rationale for why they find Barack Obama unacceptable as either the Democratic nominee for President or else as a general election choice as President vis-a-vis John McCain.

    The period of time will be the best post over a period of one month, starting from the date on which we receive the first submission.

    The winner of the contest will receive either a free T-shirt or hat, depending upon which item my brother and I decide to have made. The gear will be official “ABC” [Anti-Barack Coalition] merchandise, and will feature one of a series of phrases and/or imagery we are settling on to have placed on a run of T-shirts or hats.

    Believe me, if you have as much disgust and repulsion at the bareness and cynicism of Barack Obama and his Democratic nomination campaign, you will be proud to wear whichever of the slogans and imagery we decide on (with your help via your feedback). The merchandise you receive for winning the contest will be part of a run which we will be making to fill the demand for millions of other voters — both Democrats and Republicans alike — who are similarly fed-up with being bullied by many Obama supporters and who have been told by the media that any criticism of Barack Obama is off-limits.

    And that brings me to my final point. When you come and visit our site, let us know your own ideas for what YOU think would make a good piece of “ABC” merchandise. Would you prefer a hat or a T-shirt to wear? What would the item show, and what would it say?

    We need your feedback in order to create the product or products which you want to wear to show your disapproval with the candidacy of Barack Obama.

    Look forward to seeing you on our site, and listening to your feedback, both about what you personally find most objectionable about Obama’s campaign and associations as well as what you think would make a good T-shirt or hat slogan and image.

    Paul F. Villarreal AKA “Universal” — VillarrealSports.com

  • http://www.madinthemiddle.blogspot.com churl

    Violence, murder, mayhem. That’s what I remember from these turds– they ruined the anti-war movement and kept a great deal of social progress from occurring because the “Establishment” was not gonna allow itself to be murdered. After that the started, what was a loosening society became a tightening society until today were about to pop from repression. Thanks a lot, assholes.

  • mel

    Clinton and every other candidate supporter had better step up and voice loud and clear that no one in America will EVER allow Dean, Pelosi, Kennedy, Kerry, Dodd, Richardson or Brazile push people into voting a Marxist and Terrorist loving politician into the White House!

    Pennsylvania voters remember when you cast your votes on April 22, that a plane that disintigrated into a field in your heartland on 911, filled with people from all over the country and world who gave their last moments of their lives to prevent terrorists from further destroying America! Do not insult their memory and their heroic and unselfish act by voting for a protector and allie of terrorists!

    A single vote for Obama on April 22 in the wake of his exposure of friendship with Terrorist Bill Ayers and others now being exposed, is a total insult to those brave people who died preventing terrorists from succeeding!

  • grtphoto

    Susan, what is their endgame, these individuals that are supporting Obama’s run for the WH? What are all the interests that may get rewarded? I’m really perplexed!

  • http://www.liberalrapture.com/ John Smart

    Wow. Uppity great post! Obama’s petulant dishonesty about his connection to Ayres in the last debate takes a new and heartbreaking turn.

    Obama either has the worst judgement one can imagine or he knows exactly who these people were and did not see an issue with associating with them.

    Because he either:
    1. agrees with what they did. or
    2. he is so morally empty it did not matter to him if they helped him in Chicago

  • deke

    What pisses me off is a was involved with war protest in the late 60s early 70s and we weren’t like that, we believed in the MLK philosophy of nonviolence. But there was a fringe element in it who thought it was a blood sport and seemed to enjoy the confrontation. It seemed to them it wasn’t about changing the world which would require a lot of work but rather revenge for perceived and imagined grievances. Alot of it was driven by frustration of youth which is what we are finding in the supporters of Obama. Our country has become more accepting in violence and I think alot of Obama’s youth support are attracted to characters like Ayers.
    So we shouldn’t be surprised that it is greeted with destain from the Obama supporters because after 20 years of violence in music, on TV, and in the Music it is to be excepted.

  • Betty

    Here is another one of Barry’s good friends:
    A Chicago billionaire named (something) Pritzker, she sits on Obama’s staff. She is sister to one of Moveon.org’s biggest donors Linda Pritzker. Linda donated 4 MILLION dollars to moveon.

    The Pritzker who sits on Obama’s staff is the one who owned the Superior National Bank. I watched a video of a woman who was cleaned out of her life savings by the shenanigans Pritzker pulled at that bank. The lady in the video had 500,000 and the “Prit” has billions but still needed to strip this old lady of the comfort a few dollars could provide her in her old age. I have heard that Obama will make her Sec. of Treasury. And of course, there is an immunity deal in the works, or already done, to keep “Prit” from any criminal charges.

    I wonder who counted the votes when Moveon.org had its members vote on which candidate to support.

  • Dawn28

    He is morally empty because it happened 40 years ago when he was 8.

  • http://hyper-educated-uppity-woman.blogspot.com Uppity
  • AF catfish

    Good find.

    At the end of the 2002 Weather Underground documentary a modern-day Bernadine Dohrn is interviewed about her radical days. She looks at the camera and says “I would do it again.”

    Here’s a video trailer of the documentary, with Bernadine Dohrn reading a declaration of war.

  • street_parade

    Man, I could not agree more. I’m Obama’s age, so I was only a kid when this was going down. But SO much was lost because of this fringe element.

    Sadly, the reputation of George McGovern who was and is an honorable man is STILL saddled with people like this. I don’t know whether he would have beaten that weasel Nixon in ’72 or not. But he was absolutely buried because the righteous and just anti-war movement was DESTROYED by these bastards and their ilk.

    But for them you wonder what might have been.

  • http://insightanalytical.wordpress.com/ Gloria

    Please check out more about David L. Boren, Obama’s adviser….an amazing set of NY Times articles are cited and they are still available on the internet.
    Boren sold out the best interests of the country…what will Obama do?

    Part II: Obama’s Adviser David L. Boren–How He Screwed Us Long-term in 1993 re: Energy and More
    http://tinyurl.com/4ytee2

    at http://insightanalytical.wordpress.com/

  • AF catfish

    Nuts! Sorry it was Naomi Jaffe who says at the end “I would do it again.”

    But the trailer does show Bernadine Dohrn.

  • http://noquarterusa.net/ SusanUnPC

    I think that Obama will consort with whomever he finds useful, for whatever reason. No matter what they may have done in the past or what they believe in the present. No matter if they rob the poor or bilk taxpayers in all income brackets.

    If they inhabit the environment in which he wishes to make himself important or to gain more wealth — and they are able to help him fulfill his personal desires — he will cultivate a relationship with them.

  • Amalia

    In either the sun times or the Trib in the days
    after the debate, Obama was getting defense from
    Marilyn Katz, a chicago publicist, friend of
    Axelrod.

    check around, chicago Reader, Katz was did press
    for the group in that days of rage insanity.

  • http://noquarterusa.net/ SusanUnPC

    Yes. Read Uppity’s article on her. Her article was also published here.

  • http://hyper-educated-uppity-woman.blogspot.com Uppity

    It IS true that McGovern’s sycophants ruined it for him. The adults simply didn’t like what they saw from these arrogant snots. Just like today.

  • http://noquarterusa.net/ SusanUnPC

    I need to see that documentary again. It’s been a few years. I just shook my head. It was very difficult to watch. They were so callously cruel and stupid, and remain so. And yet they are as convinced as ever of their moral superiority.

  • AF catfish

    A 2004 AP interview with Ayers and Dohrn, as they promoted the documentary:

    did we do something that was horrendous, awful?… I don’t think so. I think what we did was to respond to a situation that was unconscionable. - Bill Ayers, 2004

  • AF catfish

    And they were such cocky rich kid types! That’s what blew me away.

  • http://hyper-educated-uppity-woman.blogspot.com Uppity

    I was there too deke and you area absolutely right. These fringe thugs were a disaster on America in more way than one.

  • Spring

    mel, excellent post! I wish all voters in Pennsylvania could read it.

  • http://hyper-educated-uppity-woman.blogspot.com Uppity

    I wanted to post the NQ version, Susan, but I couldn’t find it.

  • http://hyper-educated-uppity-woman.blogspot.com Uppity

    Yeah and they all hated their parents too. Kill your parents. Just what we need, as if we don’t have enough snots running around committing acts of violence already.

  • http://hyper-educated-uppity-woman.blogspot.com Uppity

    Oh that’s just great. Another one.

  • white_n_az

    You really should read this…definitely related and interesting…

    http://savagepolitics.com/?p=298

  • http://noratings.blogspot.com/ Bud White

    Great post. Barry’s “radical chic” days are no laughing matter.

  • ponyrider

    jeffhead.com this should be presented as a slide show at the democratic convention on their big screen tv’s…….courtesy of the “american patriots party”…

  • Willow

    Susan,
    I agree completely with you and have given this some thought the last few days. My concern is that his pandering won’t stop at the water’s edge.

  • http://www.grotte-de-han.be/index.php?docID=132 chatsauvage

    Obamabots slash tires in PA as Obama accused Clinton of slash and burn politics. Now we know who the real slashers are.

    ABC News

  • simon, too

    You know what drives all this, from Bush’s behavior in Iraq, to Obama?

    Moral hazard.

    They feel they have unlimited insurance, and no matter what they do, they will be bailed out.

    It is evident in the behavior of the fed, (maybe it’s a neocon thing), anyway, in the behavior of the fed bailing out Wall Street for it’s egregious risk taking behavior, to Obama and his antics, thinking he can do the things he does, and still be elected President, to Congress funding Iraq, no matter how screwed up the management, top to bottom the moral hazard incurred is enormous because the insurance they give themselves, the insurance the politicians give themselves, what they think they have, is unlimited.

    No matter how they screw up, they feel they can walk.

    The insurance industry charges us because they want us to invest in our decisions, understand we must pay if we take too great a risk, take responsibility, yet no one does the same for the neocons, or Congress, or Obama.

    Why?

    If it’s good enough for Met Life, and Blue Cross in their application of benefits, why not for Bush, and Cheney, and Obama?

    http://commentisfree.guardian.co.uk/richard_adams/2008/03/moral_hazard.html

  • http://hyper-educated-uppity-woman.blogspot.com Uppity

    Oh I think it’s even worse than that. I think Unrest,SERIOUS unrest is the goal as well. Already he has blasted gender and racial relations back a couple of decades or so. Unrest is wonderful for the wicked and the thieves. Nobody notices what else is going on.

  • SN

    Hey wait — I can see it coming .. a major speech by “The One” on the Vietnam Era!

    Seriously, I have read and re-read Senator Obama’s response and I must say I do find it troubling but willing to move on. His response in the ABC debate was a typical Obama-esque politican response.

    He is a guy who lives in my neighborhood, who’s a professor of English in Chicago, who I know and who I have not received some official endorsement from. He’s not somebody who I exchange ideas from on a regular basis.

    And the notion that somehow as a consequence of me knowing somebody who engaged in detestable acts 40 years ago when I was 8 years old, somehow reflects on me and my values, doesn’t make much sense, George.

    The fact is, is that I’m also friendly with Tom Coburn, one of the most conservative Republicans in the United States Senate, who during his campaign once said that it might be appropriate to apply the death penalty to those who carried out abortions.

    Do I need to apologize for Mr. Coburn’s statements? Because I certainly don’t agree with those either.

    So this kind of game, in which anybody who I know, regardless of how flimsy the relationship is, is somehow — somehow their ideas could be attributed to me — I think the American people are smarter than that. They’re not going to suggest somehow that that is reflective of my views, because it obviously isn’t.

    I find the above a bit troubling because there is no strong denunciation or even description of what those “detestable” acts he’s talking about are, and “what exactly” is not reflective of Senator Obama’s views. As in the Wright case, the disturbing thing about Obama is that he never answers these sorts of things directly — it is always “when those words were spoken” or “some people hold those views”. But I’m willing to move on w/ the proviso that someone in the press really asks and Senator Obama answers directly — what kind of “change” he really wants, and whether he thinks using violence against one’s own government is justified (under what circumstances). I find this all the more urgent because of what I have read about his supporters’ behavior in the caucuses and the fact that Obama has been using the Revolutionary war, and imagery from it (“declaring independence from politics”) of late, and I think it’s very valid to ask him these questions given who his friends and associates are, now, before we elevate him to be our nominee to face McCain in the Fall.

    In short — it is not Ayers I find troubling, but what this sort of association says about what Obama might believe in terms of political activism.

  • Percy

    Please tell me that Obama will NOT be president!

    I just need the assurance ….. UGGGHHHHH……

    Rise Hillary Rise

    Pennsylvania…we are counting on you!

    I wish all of us could form a 527 and launch commercial to the states remaining… with people from all over the country begging them to vote for Hillary.

  • http://hyper-educated-uppity-woman.blogspot.com Uppity

    The little bastards are just warming up. Just like ’72. Only now they have mentors to help them out.

    He said the supporters are worse than the candidates when it comes to vindictive attacks.

    “The bitterness and anger they have toward people who are not supporting their candidate is something I have never seen before,” he said.

    Morgan has been writing his own blog on the race, so at first he decided to remain neutral. He said Obama fans in particular were incensed with him for doing so. His tires were slashed and a complaint was lodged with the Internet service provider for his blog. Morgan is now supporting Clinton.

  • miriam

    There are still a lot of us around who remember those days of fear and violence. I never did get the rationale behind killing people as a solution to other people getting killed. Violence is violence and there is a streak of admiration for it a mile wide in too many Americans.

    Has anyone else read the throughly unsettling article on Obama in this week’s (April 21) Newsweek? One of the authors is Richard Wolfe of Olbermann guest infamy, so I expected a laudatory piece of epic proportions. And on the surface it is. It’s what lurks beneath the written lines that is unnerving. What I took away is that Obama wants change all right, but it is not the kind of change that most of Americans want. A new Liberia would not be the United States of America that I know.

    I hope Susan and/or Larry read it and comment on it. Everyone else, too.

  • http://hyper-educated-uppity-woman.blogspot.com Uppity

    Well, he had a nervous tic at the time…

  • http://hyper-educated-uppity-woman.blogspot.com Uppity

    Exactly. NOthing like killing people to make the point that killing people is bad.

  • simon, too

    It seemed to them it wasn’t about changing the world which would require a lot of work but rather revenge for perceived and imagined grievances

    So it was more an immature strike at authority figures (Mom and Dad), as opposed to any real grievance, as you said, blood sport as opposed to truthful exasperation with the government?

    And, right Uppity, you put a face on Ayers violence, a crippled Judge.

    Boy, I remember hearing those names on the news, I was very young, yet, a small child, but it’s slowly coming back, my mother was a news hound, we watched it all on WLS. It was, I think, very tense for the city, always.

    Boy, talk about Proust moments….

  • simon, too

    Was that it?

    Why do you think they thought they could get away with it, because they were spoiled selfish wealthy children, never facing consequence?

    I mean, Ayers father bailed him out, got him first rate legal representation, to avoid prison, and he did.

    If my kid were blowing up civilians, and I KNEW they were, boy, off to prison you go, I’d be ASHAMED.

    But Daddy Ayers rescued Bill, again.

  • simon, too

    Ah, the classic pathological narcissistic, never taking blame, you know, then he might look bad, have to admit to a mistake, not quite omnipotent, and well, his ego is too fragile.

    What an empty headed piece of shit.

    Gee, I wonder what Mom and Dad were like, must have been a special family…

  • simon, too

    Violence is violence and there is a streak of admiration for it a mile wide in too many Americans

    It doesn’t work.

    For all the manliness and or toughness it presents to those who need to intimidate for a sense of personal security, or manhood, it fails, long term.

    And once you become violent, you no longer think, others can control your every thought, your every action.

    “Hmmm, how can I make the little idiot lose control, today, how much trouble can I get him into, how can I increase his losses?”

    It’s not intimidating, it’s a huge crack by which others can control you, whether you’re Ayers, or Hamas.

    Or Obama.

  • http://thehorizontalworld.blogspot.com/ Mary Jo Kopechne

    I had dinner tonight with a friend who was a college student in downtown Chicago then. She said that she will never forget the disillusionment she and her friends felt when the anti-war movement became violent.

    The fact that someone like Obama would associate with these people is simply a testament to his unscrupulous pandering for points with the unthinking, the reactionary, and the mob.

    Yeats is surely relevant here:

    The best lack all conviction, while the worst
    Are full of passionate intensity.

  • http://hyper-educated-uppity-woman.blogspot.com Uppity

    Yeats. Yes!

  • Mel

    Sorry to say, but right now I am pissed, not because of Uppity Womans terrific writings again, but moreso at the tone of America voters and politicians!

    Last week, finally the main stream media exposed to 11 million people in America the alliance of friendship between Barack Obama and Bill Ayers, although they left out Bernadette Dohrn to likely lessen the shock to those Cafe Parlor Elitists and the stupid college kids trolling for Obama no matter what the reason, no one called out immediately for Obama to quit! Is Washington broken, last week proved it is, when an exposed terrorist supporter was not removed from a political party and run out of town!

    In two days, Pennsylvania votes for the nominee for the Democratic Party to go against McCain for POTUS! One of the candidates has a long running relationship with a non repenting, in fact wishing he and his wife did more, home grown terrorist who are not locked up and the key thrown away for eternity after confessing to 30 bombings in the US of KKKA simply due to daddy being Chairman ond CEO of ConEd and having enough bucks for lawyers to get them off on technicalities, due to civil liberties being broken, that is bullshit! This candidate feels his associations with people is not relivent and does not reduce gas prices or give healthcare or keep people from losing their homes!

    No Obama, Mr One Speech writer likely with assistance from your terrorist friends in 2002, it doesn’t, what it does say is that to America visa vie the reaction to the discovery is that America doesn’t give a shit about Terrorists! It in fact condones terrorists! The Democratic Party condones Terrorists, proven by the reactions of Dean and others following that exposure demanding SD throw support now!

    WTF in a rational civilization, Obama would be gone from politcal life for good! He has constantly lied directly to peoples faces and they still promote him in the same breathe as the likes of Kennedy and other Presidents! How fucking stupid are Americans?

    Why hasn’t a single, NOT ONE FUCKING SINGLE so called Party elder or full of wisdom Super Delegate said fuck you Obama, you are friends with two of Americas worst unrepenting terrorists, we do not want a single thing to do with you! To Obama pledged SD, Fuck you!

    When it became exposed on April 16th, 2008 of such a relationship with unrepenting terrorists to the world and everyone waited to see what the polls would do and then that terrorist lover gives the finger to a former First Lady and rival candidate and still Americans did nothing, then why the fuck are other countries fighting in Afgansitan and Iraq for when Americans sit back and love a terrorist loving candidate?

    That exposure of Obama being having a long time friendship with still active and unrepenting terrorists was made less than 150 miles away from the site of where a couple of hundred Americans and others foiled an attempt by terrorists from bombing the Capital of the USA, spending their last moments of life proecting lives of Americans, having their lives varourized into a hole in the ground in the middle of no where, with no remains left for their familys to at least bury properly!

    And Americans focus more on Obama’s arrogant dusting of his shoulders and fingering a former First Lady and using actions of street punks in defaming an opponent who never brought the matter up!

    What the fuck is wrong with America? What the fuck is wrong with Dean, Pelosi, Kennedy, Kerry, Dodd, Richardson, Brazile and all the other so called leaders of America?

    What is wrong with the fucking Media in America, are ratings more important than feeding the will of someone associated with known terrorists?

    What is wrong with schools in American who allow terrorists teach the children of America, especially announced unrepenting terrorists?

    Bruce Springstein, Oprah, Steven Spielberg and all the other so called entertainers who were being so gracious of their time to fundraise for the victims of 911 and are still today supporting Obama and haven’t denounced him, fuck you all, you do not deserve a single iota of praise and should never offer anything again, as you have all spit in the face of the people who died on United Flight 98 and the Pentagon and Twin Towers!

    Am I pissed, yes I am, I cannot believe the ignorance America is proving by its condoning someone whom people still want to be their Commander and Chief!

    And I do not give a shit if he is Black, White, Green or Blue, he is a terrorist supporter and our brave kids and those of other countries are fighting to remove terrorists and their supporters in places like Afganistan and Iraq and yet at home in America, people in Starbucks and colleges, entertainers and even politicians are supporting one to be the head of Americas government, that is simply stupid! And yet no one screams out demanding his departing politics and never having a single thing again to do with the formation of laws in this country!

  • flyarm

    It was my era as well..and there were the riots in Newark and Watts Riots ,Camden riots, the Philly riots, hell it seemed like there was a riot each month for the mid 60′s to early 70′s..the riots in Chicago Dem Convention, Kent State..but most of the kids wanted peaceful protests..it was the fringe that started the riots. But it seemed we were all lumped in together, irregardless. Cities were being lit on fire..
    And it was the thugs, the B. Panthers and the Weather Underground…they were home grown terrorists.

    For those too young to know about those times, and those fringe groups, please take the time to read about them..educate yourselves and see who Obama associates with ..and who his promoters are..for goodness sake, this country damn well needs an educated electorate! Please take your voting responsibilities seriously and know who the hell you are voting for..it has never been more imperative!

    fly

  • Catriley

    I’m neither a violent, nor angry person… but reading that article made my blood boil. I am around Obama’s age. My parents were quite Democratic, and fairly liberal, best described as intellecutal working class.

    I well remember the days of rage, as it was all over the news when I was around 8 or 9. So violent and unsettling was that time, that I remember being afraid to walk home from school. I was convinced that someone would drive by and shoot me as I made my way home on the busy street. I had taken to walking as fast as I could behind the large trees, feeling safe as I got behind each one. This was the 60s, drive by shootings were unknown back then — but the images of violence on the tv news were terrifying to me.

    I cannot believe that people in America have fallen in love with a candidate with those connections. Because the man can give a good speech, the media elite give him a pass on his associations. Any other candidate would have been toast by now (unless your last name was Bush.)

    Obama is inspiring a new crop of thugs — bored and affluent angry young men, along with angry and dissatisfied young men from the poor areas. Just as the WU recruited them. The comments we’ve been seeing about violence in Denver makes me think that the WU types are relishing the idea of reliving their glory days with a fresh crop of malcontents, fixated on destroying anything that displeases them. So many of the young people in America have been given so much, and live at a standard that people in most of the world would die to have… and yet they are angry. And the Alinsky practitioners like Obama, know just how to manipulate them to achieve their end.

  • Northwest rain

    The caucus in WA — I saw the Obamabots in action. Never before have I seen college age kids show up for a caucus — and they were literally shaking in rage when speaking about Senator Clinton.

    Thugs — they were thugs. They were organized thugs — trained thugs for Obama.

    Also the Obama side had unlimited funds — and both of these elements scared the hell out of me: Trained thugs and unlimited funds.

    There was no way that the Clinton team could have been prepared — they assumed that they would be running a typical democrat against democrat primary campaign.

    We’ve now seen the take over of so call progressive website by Obamabots — and the ones that attempt to remain neutral or HEAVEN FORBID support Clinton — we’ve seen pro Hillary website shut down repeatedly.

    Thanks Uppity — now I understand more about Obama’s mentors — and their violent past.

    I’m a witness to the 70s peace movement — the CA University I went to was one of the centers of the protest movement. We had a lot of SDS members on campus. Although I opposed the war — I lived ON A Military BASE during my first two years of college — I never joined these groups. The guys were male chauvinist pigs — and this seems to be common throughout the whole era.

    I watched women join these “peace” movements and become servant and slaves to the male leaders. “You don’t have any right to have an opinion, because they don’t draft women.” One of the campus SDS leaders told me.

    So Obama hangs around with the former leader of the Weather Underground — and if he is anything like his West Coast counterparts — he was and probably still is a male chauvinist pig. Obama takes on the characteristics and opinions of his mentors.

    BASTARDS — yes that’s exactly what they are!

  • Catriley

    I hear ya, Mel. I thought that I’d be waking up from that 2000 election nightmare, and the 2004 election nightmare, right about now by realizing the Dems would take the White House in November. It was a fucking slam dunk! But.. Howard & The ELites decided that the Democratic Party needed to try something different, to make itself over to a Party that cannot win. It shoulda been a cakewalk. Now it’s a travesty.

    I have no explanation as to why this terrorist connection is being ignored, other than America (and the media) are obsessed with celebrity. We’re apparently incapable of electing someone with substance. They are ridiculed, they are attacked (just like Al Gore was.)

    I believe that the anniversar of the OKC bombing is right about now — it reminds us of the inspeakable tragedy that DOMESTIC terrorists can reap upon us, as well.

    Howard & The Elites are out of their minds if they think that Obama’s friends are gonna play in Peoria, as they say. Out of their fucking minds.

  • Catriley

    Oh, and unless something changed, Spielberg endorsed Hillary last June.

  • Northwest rain

    And once you become violent, you no longer think, others can control your every thought, your every action.

    Exactly — the trained thugs were enraged about Senator Clinton. And they were under the control of that programmed rage!

    Anger, rage — this is how Obama/Axlerod controls the thugs.

    Though?? WAS Kenya a trial run? Did Obama use tactics in Kenya — RAGE and ANGER — to see what would happen?

    Obama is not all love and light — when you see how the Obamabots act — up close and personal — there was no love and joy message about the messiah Obama — the THUGS at the caucus were full of hate and rage for Hillary.

    “And this I know for a fact . . .” followed by a lie about Hillary — is how the Obama caucus thugs spoke. They told us NOTHING at all about what an Obama Presidency would be like.

  • Mel

    The OKC bombing was April 19, 1995 and not a word was said about it anywhere this year, people scared to mention terrorists for fear of Obama retalliation again, 3 days after the debate?

  • Mel

    His name is on Obama’s list too, guess he is a double supporter!

  • Mel
  • Retired

    “Thugs — they were thugs. They were organized thugs — trained thugs for Obama.” Such is the Fruit of Obama (FOO). And with Wright and Farakhan as honored role models, is this really so surprising?

  • http://OTliesvideo Lyn

    So by his logic if a kid was 8 on 9/11/2001 then in 20 years met Bin Laden and became “friendly” for the next 20 years, then when he was in his 40s it would be perfectly fine to be POTUS?

  • http://OTliesvideo Lyn

    Well if what his cousin (that he helped)did in Kenya is a clue, I’d be pretty nerovus.

  • StatBabe

    That’s what has bothered me the most about the whole Obama campaign–too many of Obama’s supporters follow the man with a cult-like allegiance and are completely unwilling to accept that his opponent might have some positive attributes!

    I was talking to a good friend of mine from college who, like me, had supported John Edwards. After Edwards dropped out, he announced that he was supporting Obama, and when I pressed him for his reasons for switching to Obama since Clinton’s proposals (particularly her health care proposals) were closer to those of John Edwards than Obama’s proposals. He explained that it was really about the war in Iraq and the fact that Obama had voted against the war. I explained to my friend that Obama was not even in the U.S. Senate at the time so he may have opposed the way, but he sure as hell didn’t vote on it since he was not in a position to vote one way or another. Anyway, my friend called me back a couple of weeks later and started out the conversation with, “You know, I did not know that about Obama not voting on the war in Iraq. That makes a lot of difference to me.” Now, I honestly do not know how my friend feels about Obama now–and it really doesn’t matter since he has already voted. But it DID demonstrate to me just how disingenuous the Obama campaign had been and how many people had bought into the Obama hype based on false assertions.

    My friend was pretty disgusted to discover that Obama had voted for that abominable energy bill put forth by Dick Cheney and that Obama had voted against putting a 30% cap on interest rates for credit cards. I am less troubled by Obama’s voting records than many other issues since ALL THREE candidates have votes in the past that they certainly would prefer to lock away from the world. But Obama’s voting record certainly demonstrates that he is far from the “progressive” candidate that he holds himself out to be. As I pointed out to my college friend, Obama’s voting record on Iraq is IDENTICAL to Hillary’s voting record. If Obama was such a committed opponent of the war in Iraq, he would be doing as Dennis Kucinich has done–vote AGAINST all the supplemental funding for the war in Iraq that has repeatedly come up.

    Mind you, it is NOT Obama’s voting record on the matter that disturbs me–it’s his disingenuous representation of his stance on the war in Iraq. It does not take much political courage to “claim” to be against a resolution for the use of force in Iraq when one is not in a position to vote on the matter on way or the other. Neither does it take much political courage to continue to fund this war that one purportedly opposes. After all, when one votes against supplemental funding for the war effort in Iraq, that person runs the risk of being labeled as “not supporting the troops”. Voting for the supplemental funding for the war in Iraq is politically a much easier vote to make, just as opposing the Iraq resolution was a much easier call for someone to make who was not in Congress at the time.

  • AF catfish

    Yikes I didn’t know that detail.

    Growing up the child of Bay Area liberals, I thought I knew a lot about the 1960s and 1970s. But that documentary was reeeaaally eye-opening. I think that part of the era was so ugly and painful it’s not talked about widely.

    It’s great to hear your personal takes on it too, Uppity.

  • AF catfish

    So many of them unrepentant! Like what Flanagan says above. Asses!

  • lifelong dem leaving party

    excellent analogy.

    re obama’s logic – i see it basically as what’s fine is whatever he wants to be fine at the time. he figures he can spin a tale that friendship with bin laden is good if it was him or bad if it was his opponent and either way people will buy what he’s selling.

    sadly, it’s working pretty well for him.

  • DisenfranchisedVoter

    These honestly seem like people Obama would be attracted to. Look at his associations with Wright. That is enough to tell me that he thinks these sort of radicals are cool and by associating with them it will make him a progressive. Being a progressive is not about killing innocent people, spewing hate from a pulpit, or hanging out with people who do these things. Considering Obama is like a cocky kid with a lot of anger towards society and even his parents, why should we be surprised by any of this anymore?

  • DisenfranchisedVoter

    OT but for the first time I actually read comments on a non pro-Hillary site and boy are some of these Obamabots deranged. I went over to MyDD and read the comments from a diary of a Clinton supporter but I guess most of the commenters there are now Obamabots? I only read comments on No Quarter, Taylor Marsh, The Confluence, Talk Left, Anglachel’s Journal, Sugar N’Spice…basically the pro-Hillary sites so this is a first for me. WOOOOW. They cannot come to terms with the fact that Obama is outspending Hillary 3:1 or 4:1 and if he loses by double digits it’s a really bad sign. They are STILL focused on red state caucuses and Obama getting the nomination without counting MI and FL. They also came up with excuses about Obama losing PA because it’s Hillary’s home state…um, so what? Millions of dollars in ads should have leveled the playing field if he’s really the person voters want as the nominee to go against McCain. They also don’t see the point of Clinton supporters voting for her in the remaining primaries because “there is no way she can win anyway”. Wow. Maybe some of you read these idiots daily but I never go over to any pro-Obama sites to read what they have to say the way Obamabots come here and other sites to argue with us. But I’m just in awe at the ignorance of some of these people.

  • PMS

    No, he is morally empty because of what happened when he was 27, and when he was 34, and when he was 40, and when he was 45, and now.

    At every juncture, Obama associates with radicals and criminals, while accusing anyone who notices it of being racist or negative.

    That is a moral emptiness that borders on the pathological.

  • kenoshaMarge

    How much ya wanna bet that all this crap won’t hit the MSM until they manage to make Obama the nominee? Then they will use it to crush him and make McCain the winner of the GE?

    I doubt he will remain the media’s darling once he’s the nominee. First they came for Hillary, and did it gleefully since they have hated the Clintons for decades. Next they will knock off an inferior candidate with more baggage than Hillary ever carried.

    How sweet for them they had so much help from the Fauxgressives that have infiltrated the Democratic Party and hate Hillary Clinton more than any Republican ever born.

  • Kefa

    ot–Michael Smerconish….on WPHT is using his radio program to smear Clinton this Morning before having Obama in his show. Bring even Vince Foster up.

  • BernieO

    I was checking what the boys at Fox were saying about Obama and someone (maybe Mort Kondracke) made an excellent point. He asked what liberals would say if John McCain had a relationship like Obama and Ayers with a person who admits bombing an abortion clinic, is not remorseful and says he should have done more.

  • Inkslayer

    OT – Obama the Liar and the Art of Hypocrisy:

    http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=OUbUr2Rz8eU

    A good discussion on Obama the hypocrite. While he says one thing in front of the train, his minions are doing the exact opposite in the back of the train.

    Also, it’s pointed out Obama doesn’t look like he could install a kitchen sink – LOL

  • Fred C. Dobbs

    The term was, “radical chic.”

    Each and every social gathering required at least one gamy, dashiki-clad nudnik to parrot some worn cliche. I have been told that, in NYC and SF, they were usually engaged from an agency with a name like, “Rent-A-Scumbag.”

    Most of us who were busy murdering strangers overseas at the time had to sublimate our desires to join in the fun by putting, “Peace,” signs on our helmets. although, I, personally, favored a Death’s Head superimposed upon the Ace of Spades.

    Peace Through Fire Superiority!

  • ned bulous

    Ummm, you DO REALIZE that the Clintons pardoned two members of the Weather Underground, don’t you???

    Susan L. Rosenberg, who was charged in the notorious 1981 Brink’s robbery in Rockland County that left a guard and two police officers dead was pardoned by the CLINTONS! As was Linda Evans, who was serving a 40 year sentence for her part in terrorist bombings with the Weather Underground.

    The victims families were STRONGLY OPPOSED to the Clinton’s clemency, as were Chuck Schumer, Rudy Guiliani, and ALL police officials!

    Bill Ayers, in contrast, was never sentenced to prison. He also was rehabilitated and has been a professor at the University of IL for YEARS. . .

    Oh yeah, Ayers also held a fundraiser for the Clintons during the 1990s!

    Talk about blatant hypocrisy on the part of Hillary Clinton!!!

  • ned bulous

    Before you accuse Obama of being a thug for having a flimsy connection with a college professor with an unsavory past, you better look at the Clintons connections with the Weather Underground members Susan Rosenberg and Linda Evans. Both were convicted of activities which resulted in the deaths of police officers and were PARDONED by the CLintons!

    These pardons were against the STRONG wishes of the victims families, Chuck Schumer, law enforcement officials, etc! In contrast, Bill Ayers was never sentenced to prison because none of his activities resulted in murder. . . in fact, he was a college professor who actually organized a fundraiser for the CLINTONS in the 1990s!

    The Clinton supporters and their hypocrisy knows no bounds. . .

  • FLVoter

    Any other politician would have gone under long ago from the weight of even one of these associations. BO is made of teflon (but I understand it causes cancer when used alone.)

  • ned bulous

    Huh?

    Are you suggesting that Ayers had something to do with OKB???

    Again, look up the Weather Underground members that the CLINTONS PARDONED- Evans and Rosenberg! Both were CONVICTED of bombings which left 2 police officers and a security guard DEAD! In addition, Evans caused EXTENSIVE property damage and terrorism as late as 1983! She was serving 40 years in PRISON when her friends, the CLINTONS, pardoned her!

    In contrast, Ayers was not convicted nor was he serving time in prison when he held a fundraiser for Obama. Ummm, and he ALSO held a fundraiser for the CLINTONS in the 1990s!

    Do some research before spewing Hillary’s hypocritical talking points!

  • BernieO

    The reputation of ALL liberals is still saddled with this. Because too many of us never repudiated the Ayers and Dohrns it has allowed Republicans to turn the liberal label into an insult.

    I was in college when these creeps took over the movement. I was appalled and flabbergasted because we’d all had the advantage of watching the inspiring example of MLK as we grew up. We knew peaceful protests were the way to go. Not to mention you lose all moral advantage when you use violence in a “peace” movement.

    Radicals of any stripe have no respect for Democracy. They are so convinced that they have truth on their side they therefore have the right to foist it on others. They are not willing to do the hard work of making an honest case for their views, something which often takes a long time.

    At least the right wing realizes that in a democracy you must win over a majority of the public to be able to implement your beliefs. The problem with them is that they do this by being dishonest, using lies like the “tax cuts raise revenues” one that Charlie Gibson was harping on during the debate.

    In contrast the left just does nothing but whine. We allow the right wingers to control the national discussion. That is why there has been a substantial increase in the number of people who do not believe in evolution. And it is why Republicans have been getting away with selling their disastrous trickle down, fundamentalist, free market economic policies since Reagan. When was the last time that you heard a Democrat refute the “tax cuts raise revenues” talking point? This is not hard to do since even Bush’s advisors have publicly said that AT BEST we recoup only half of the revenues lost by the cut (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/11/30/AR2007113002190_pf.html) And the evidence is clear that each time these policies have been implemented – first by Reagan and then Bush II, deficits have ballooned. Yet neither Hillary nor Barack bothered to point this out when Charlie Gibson repeatedly praised the capital gains tax cuts in the debate.
    Clinton proved that we could generate a surplus by raising taxes while also creating a healthy economy that benefits ALL income levels – not just the wealthy. How has the left wing of the party responded? By ignoring the success of Clintonomics and turning in large numbers to a guy who disses this record while praising Reagan. We have met the enemy and it is us.

  • ned bulous

    FauxNews wants Hillary because they know that McCain can’t beat Obama.

    Do you think that Hillary does her own plumbing?!?!? Give me a break LOL!

    Again, look up her connections to the PARDONS of Evans and Rosenberg, Weather Underground members who were convicted and sentenced for their part in the DEATHS of POLICE OFFICERS! Ayers, in contrast, was never sentenced or convicted for his part in the WU. . . but was a college professor.

    Oh yeah, and he held a fundraiser for the Clintons in the 1990s, as well!

  • ned bulous

    More on the Clintons and their pardons of Weather Underground members:

    http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9D06EED7133CF931A15752C0A9679C8B63

  • ned bulous

    And more:

    http://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2001506/posts

    Evans was sentenced to 40 years, Rosenberg to 58 years! BOTH were PARDONED by the Clintons!!!

  • ned bulous
  • ned bulous

    REALLY? What about Hillary’s connections with Peter Paul, Hsu, Marc Rich, and the Weather Underground members Evans and Rosenberg who KILLED police officers?!?!?

  • FLVoter

    All those party elders (and the rest of the power mongers) of which you speak are now in line to be first among the new political order. In particular, the ones who have supported the Clintons in the past. They are all betting their reputations that the lies, the money, the meaningless drivel will produce the power they have failed to achieve on their own. It’s a pyramid scheme of the highest order. We may have all been naive of the use of this scheme by the bush cabal but we have no excuse to not see what’s happening this time.

  • ned bulous

    Hey, can somebody defend the Clinton’s pardoning of Evans and Rosenberg? You know, the Weather Underground members who actually KILLED POLICE OFFICERS and were pardoned by the CLINTONS?!?!?

    Ayers was a college professor who met with Obama. . . and held a fundraiser for the Clintons in the 1990s! Evans and Rosenberg were serving 40 and 58 years for their part in the Weather Underground!!!

  • http://hyper-educated-uppity-woman.blogspot.com Uppity

    Oh Lord, an AOL blogger. The day anybody has a problem off of what a AOL blogger writes is the day I know we have gone mad. Now let’s get something straight here, one more time for posterity. Clinton didn’t pardon, he commuted. These were 40 year sentences for transporting explosives (I think). They served the proponderance of their sentences and expressed regret. I may have to just do a piece on this just to shut you A Holes up.

    The sentences were commuted. I want you to write that on the blackboard 100 times.

    After the sentences were commuted, Bill and Hllary didn’t hang out with them, go to their houses. They didn’t hold fundraisers for the Clinton’s, work on their campaigns and “Introduce” them around. They didn’t sit on boards with them and have a nearly fifteen year friendship with them. Now I know this all disappoints you but this is a gnat compared to Obama and Ayers. In fact, even the ObamaPress, for all their “leg tingles” can’t get any traction out of it. But you can dream if you want. Have fun.

  • beebop

    I hope that this doesn’t sound too pedantic for a relatively early Monday morning discussion ….

    I woke up thinking about Rezko … well, not immediately …

    There are so many numbers thrown around about how much Barry gave back of Rez’s money. It varies. But here is an ABC article from January 28

    Despite claims over the weekend from Democratic presidential candidate Sen. Barack Obama that his campaign had given away all the donations connected to accused fixer Antoin “Tony” Rezko, the campaign has not returned more than $100,000 in donations from Rezko’s wife and 20 other Rezko-linked donors, according to an ABCNews.com review.

    “What we’ve done is we’ve traced any funds that we know of that we think were connected to him,” said Obama during an appearance on “This Week” with George Stephanopoulos. “And if there any other funds that were connected to him that we’re not aware of, then we will certainly return them. It is in our interest to do so.”

    On Friday, campaign spokesman Bill Burton dismissed the ABC News findings and others from the Los Angeles Times and the Chicago Sun-Times, stating “we think they are casting a wide net and overestimating.”

    The campaign has donated to charity more than $85,000 of Rezko-linked contributions since Rezko was indicted on federal fraud charges in the fall of 2006. Burton said the campaign’s best estimate of what Rezko has raised is $60,000, including contributions from a fundraiser Rezko held for Obama in 2003, but acknowledges that it does not have an exact record of what Rezko raised. “We review our donations, and where there are questions, we make decisions about donating to charity those which, in the circumstances, do not seem appropriate to retain,” said Burton.

    The Obama campaign statements have left some campaign finance watchdogs perplexed. “I don’t understand why they didn’t do a top-to-bottom audit and divest themselves of these funds,” said Cynthia Canary of the Illionois Campaign for Political Reform.

    We now know that the number was considerably higher — more like $250,000 as he indicated in the interview he gave the same day that the story about Reverand Wright broke.

    The only indication I could find ANYWHERE is that he gave $5K to The Better Boy’s Foundation ….

    Where did the rest of the money go?
    Has all of the money gone back?

    More importantly: Do you feel like you are in a really bad Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid? WHO ARE THESE GUYS?

  • beebop

    They were not PARDONED …. their sentences were commuted … they actually SERVED TIME … unlike the scum Ayers and his wife who killed people and got off only because the FBI fucked up …

    Kookaide this early will really mess up whatever grey matter you may have left.

  • beebop

    UH … and “CLINTONS” were actually single … Bill. NOW who’s using Republican talking points, ass?

  • http://hyper-educated-uppity-woman.blogspot.com Uppity

    I am not sure how many times I am going to waste my time addressing your stupidity, but I will give it one more try. I just saw you over at another thread here posting “Clinton’s Pardon Trouble” over a stupid AOL blogger link.

    Now let’s get something straight here, one more time for posterity. Clinton didn’t pardon, he commuted. These were 40 year sentences for transporting explosives (I think). NOBODY committed MURDER. Get it? Repeat after me. They didn’t commit murder. They served the proponderance of their sentences and expressed regret. I may have to just do a piece on this just to shut you A Holes up.

    The sentences were commuted. I want you to move your lazy ass over to an online dictionary and look up pardon. Then I want you to look up commute. I want you to write the definitions on the blackboard 100 times, like a good little boy.

    After the sentences were commuted, Bill and Hllary didn’t hang out with them, go to their houses. They didn’t hold fundraisers for the Clinton’s, work on their campaigns and “Introduce” them around. They didn’t sit on boards with them and have a nearly fifteen year friendship with them. Now I know this all disappoints you but this is a gnat compared to Obama and Ayers. In fact, even the ObamaPress, for all their “leg tingles” can’t get any traction out of it. But you can dream if you want. Have fun.

  • artmann11

    This place has turned into Ihate BarakObama.com.

    I would vote Clinton if she got the nomination. Bottom line, as I’ve said before another Scalia is out of the question. If that happens it’s over.

  • ned bulous

    Hey, I thought they were MARRIED! I thought that she was one of his CLOSEST ADVISORS!?!?!?

    Clearly, you seem to think that Obama meeting with Ayers (who was never convicted of anything) is as bad as Clinton PARDONING CONVICTED KILLERS!

    Why don’t you make the case, then, that Bill Clinton has EXTENSIVE connections to the Weather Underground? Ayers also held a fundraiser on the Clinton’s ‘New Democratic Majority’s” behalf.

  • blobert

    My response to Michael Moore’s email:
    Then you’re a fuckiing asshole.
    Take me off your spam/sucker list.

  • ned bulous

    Ummm, TWO POLICE OFFICERS and a SECURITY GUARD WERE KILLED!

    Ayers activities did not result in this kind of terrorism. Nor are his connections to Obama as strong as the Clinton’s connections to Evans and Rosenberg.

    If you are damning Obama for meeting with Ayers, you better DAMN WELL be holding the CLintons to the same standards. . . Don’t think FOR A MINUTE that the REPUBLICANS wouldn’t bring up the pardons in the GE!!!

  • workingclass artist

    Agree with you there…I remember growing up with that fear…It was on the news…in the faces and voices of the adults in my life…Now maybe growing up in Indonesia and Hawaii , Obamaessiah was insolated from that fear and it was repalced by some sort of romanticism….That fear affected a lot of people across the races. It was a fear of RADICALISM. I remember a profound sadness when the anti-war movement was overtaken by the violence. I remember sadness and fear because to the “establishment” all protesters seemed radical and all protests potentially full of Rage. To my child’s eyes this culminated in OHIO. I sympathsize with the anger of liberals and anti-war protesters who saw their movement HIJACKED and SPUN by groups like the Weathermen/Weather Underground. I always, even as a child saw through the phony RADICAL CHIC, JUST LIKE I SEE THROUGH THIS SHAMEFUL MANIPULATION OF CHILDREN DESPERATLEY SEEKING A CAUSE WHOM THEY HOPE IS A MAN INCAPABLE OF EXERTING LEADERSHIP.

  • beebop

    No. It is more “we don’t believe that Barack Obama is qualified to be President of the Unites States.” I am sure that in his current capacity as a senator for Illinois he may prove to be effective, but he hasn’t spent enough time actually doing his job for anyone to know.

  • http://hyper-educated-uppity-woman.blogspot.com Uppity

    Yes he did get more money from him than he returned. But true to how Obama operates, he says the books are closed for the campaign Rezko gave the rest of the money for. It’s kind of like how he “lost” his records and logs for his time in the State Senate. The Rezko/Obama friendship went on for a long time. So technically, nobody can do a thing about the rest of the money Rezko gave him. Keyword: Technically. He doesn’t HAVE to return it. So he didn’t. But it does more than suggest that these two turkeys have been wading in the swamp together for a long time.

  • workingclass artist

    GO BACK TO OBAMESSIAH CAMP NED…

  • http://hyper-educated-uppity-woman.blogspot.com Uppity

    Barky is going to have to win without me.

  • beebop

    Seeing the world from a high rise in Hawaii can certainly give you a different view — even if Granny is a racist.

  • ned bulous

    Hear hear!

    I would also vote for Clinton in a HEARTBEAT if she gets the nod! I only am pointing out the hypocrisy of condemning Obama for his ‘connections’ to the Weather Underground while people on this board give Clinton a PASS on HER stronger connections to members of the group!

  • beebop

    PLEASE … Barry tripped over himself contratulating John Roberts … if that is any indication of what he would do, then I take little and no comfort. His “constitutional law” knowledge is as twisted as everything else about him.

  • workingclass artist

    Yeah….They can’t stand it that she showed up in Pittsburg to chat with the architect of the ARKANSAS PROJECT….can they….

  • beebop

    If you could actually ESTABLISH any relations that she has with the group, you wouldn’t be here talking it up. You’d be on the phone with ABC, CBS, NBC, FOX NEWS, Wall Street Journal … and trust me, they would already have played it.

  • workingclass artist

    There are no honest working callouses on those hands of his are there…

  • http://hyper-educated-uppity-woman.blogspot.com Uppity

    would also vote for Clinton in a HEARTBEAT if she gets the nod!

    Oh Bullshit, Bulbuous. You are crapping all over this board and you don’t even know the difference between COMMUTE and PARDON. You don’t even know that the COMMUTED sentences were NOT FOR MURDER. You are correlating this with hanging out with the leader of the Weather Underground, being on boards with him, accepting fundraisers from him, having him “introduce” you around and carrying on a nearly 15 year friendship with a guy who says “I DIDN”T THINK WE DID ENOUGH”. A guy who says he would “RULE OUT” more.

    As an Obama troll, you are a bust.

  • workingclass artist

    I find that his LOST RECORDS kinda remind me of….missing moments on tape…..lost e-mails….other republican ephemera….Hmmmm

  • ned bulous

    Are you kidding!?!?!?

    The only reason that Obama’s ‘connections’ to Ayers were reported is because the question was planted by Hannity! Clinton DID PARDON two members of the Weather Underground. It WILL be an issue in the GE if she gets the nod- you can BET on it!

  • workingclass artist

    Michael Moore….( sigh ) has proved to be a disappointment in this one….

  • workingclass artist

    Old hat….Ned…Try again with something new?

  • http://corner.nationalreview.com/post/?q=YmY2ZmJjZTY2MzE0ZmM1YTNlNjRjMDNkOGJlNjE4NzA= Candice Beers

    Not to excuse the despicable acts this group is responsible for, but it is surprising to me that there is no mention of Bill Clinton's Pardons shortly before his term ended. You know…I hear that phrase”Guilt By Association” a lot and thought it would be appropriate here.

  • ned bulous

    Obviously you’re not going to let the FACTS get in your way!

    There has been NO EVIDENCE of a 15 year friendship with Ayers- that is complete BS! And the result of the Brink Robbery WAS the death of two police officers and a security guard! THe only reason Rosenberg wasn’t prosecuted for this crime was that she was serving 58 years in NJ already!!!

    Better get your FACTS straight before you go spouting off!

  • beebop

    Try reading upstream.

    A mind is a terrible thing to waste.

  • http://corner.nationalreview.com/post/?q=YmY2ZmJjZTY2MzE0ZmM1YTNlNjRjMDNkOGJlNjE4NzA= Candice Beers
  • workingclass artist

    Artmann11…This guy is tearin up my party and I don’t like it. Axelrove is spreading LIES about the CLINTON/GORE administration so that the baby can win at all costs… ASK YOURSELF THIS ? If you are a democrat and you supported Al Gore….How do you feel about another democrat smearing the accomplishments of Al Gore ? When Obama smears the Clinton Administration he is also smearing Al Gore, who up until Cheney was the MOST powerful/influential VP in years. Do you think it’s OK that in order to WIN AT ALL COSTS…The O-baby take down two of the most successful Democrats in party history ? I don’t. What is he going to use in the GE as an argument for dem’s over repub’s……HOPE ? Grow up will ya ?

  • Talktruth

    Here’s something from http://www.savagepolitics.com that I found eye-opening about Ayers:

    “…Much of what Ayers self-interestedly leaves out of his book is more personally embarrassing than illegal. Ayers takes care not to dwell on his own Establishment credentials. (His father was chairman of the energy company Commonwealth Edison, a fact Ayers conveys only by writing, “My dad worked for Edison.”) Ayers omits any discussion of his famous 1970 statement, “Kill all the rich people. Break up their cars and apartments. Bring the revolution home, kill your parents, that’s where it’s really at.” He also omits any discussion of his wife Bernardine Dohrn’s famous reaction to the Manson killings, as conveyed by journalist Peter Collier: “Dig it. First they killed those pigs, then they ate dinner in the same room with them, then they even shoved a fork into a victim’s stomach! Wild!” (In a 1993 Chicago Magazine profile, Dohrn claimed, implausibly, that she’d been trying to convey that “Americans love to read about violence.”) Nor does he address fellow radical Jane Alpert’s charge that Ayers was “notorious for his callous treatment and abandonment of Diana Oughton before her death and for his generally fickle and high-handed treatment of women” (though Ayers does manage to get across the message, to those few who haven’t heard it, that the late 1960s and early 1970s were a golden age for getting laid).”

    From an article by Lin Farley, at http://savagepolitics.com/.

  • http://corner.nationalreview.com/post/?q=YmY2ZmJjZTY2MzE0ZmM1YTNlNjRjMDNkOGJlNjE4NzA= Candice Beers

    Oh Geez…why the sarcasm. Jerk

  • simon, too

    Ned, everytime you do this, you look more and more stupid.

    Now we told you, think critically, the relationships are not the same, as none of the men you mentioned are active terrorists.

    Think, now…

    If you’re going to troll, at least look like you can follow the discussion.

  • Kefa

    OT…….CLINTON ON MSNBC TONIGHT VS KO…..FACE TO FACE.

  • Talktruth

    OT, but I think it’s important. BO will be on The Daily Show tonight. They have a headline up on the website asking for questions:

    BREAKING: Well-Known Secret Muslim/Terrorist Coddler/Hunky Senator Barack Obama to Appear on The Daily Show
    POSTED BY: TheInDecider
    This is it, folks. Barackmaggedon.

    Here’s the link: http://preview.tinyurl.com/4psdtt

    I think we should let him know that we all don’t find Gutter Ball’s antics amusing, and that he’ not even *close* to ready for prime time, nor will he ever be.

    My fantasy is they’ll play “No Scrubs” as he walks out (saw it at Corrente :-) and then John scratches his cheek (his own, not BO’s) with his middle finger during the whole thing. Hey, I can dream, can’t I?

  • The Gringo’s Wife

    Obamapologist ….

    Whem you want to say Hillary has no experience, you say she was just a “First Lady” who did nothing and had no effect on anything.

    When you want to make her look evil, you insist she was just as responsible as Bill for whatever went wrong that you want to pin on her.

    That level of manipulation and logic only works on the Kool Aid Heads.

  • simon, too

    You know, one sees how you think and one has an urge to decorate your little wannabe troll head.

    What happens when others see you, but you don’t see them?

    I’ll tell you what happens: Cheney’s Pentagon, and Iraq, Afghanistan.

    Old stuff, you lose.

  • beebop

    Just like “fearful” leader. Can’t take a fact, call a name? You giving me the finger too? OOOOOO I am so intimidate! Scared half to death even. Gonna close down my email? Slash my tires?

  • blobert

    He is still angry at Clinton for a comment she made long ago, about his expertise on healthcare. I don’t remember the exact phrasing – it wasn’t insulting, but she thought his knowledge lacked breadth.

  • blobert

    Moore’s endorsement of Nader in 2000 wasn’t such great thing either.

  • workingclass artist

    I have to agree on that one….This guy and Aexlrove are making ol’ time pols of either party nervous…Kennedy et, al think ( delusion ) they can control it….They don’t (literally) know who they’re dealing with….none of us do..

  • simon, too

    No, that’s the Cheney Bush mantra, and it doesn’t work.

    Didnt work for the IDF, either.

    Think JFK, it’s like saving a lot of money in the bank, I was taught as a kid you don’t touch it, it’s there, you put aside a portion of your paycheck, but you never touch it, ever, except for DIRE emergencies, ie, a repeat of the great depression, or nuclear war, say, something of that magnitude.

    The rush to arms, the use of violence to intimidate is a DEAD giveaway your opponent is scared sh*tless, having to project violence is a knee jerk reaction exhibiting fear.

    And if they’re scared, you can control them.

    Look at Iran, now, they aren’t necessarily committing overt acts of
    violence, like Cheney and Bush are, through Iraq, or the use of torture.

    And Iran is gaining hegemonic power off of Cheney and Bush’s cowardice, and those boys just arent smart.

  • stodghie

    i never thought in my wildess dreams i would ever dislike a democrat as much as bush. but here we are and i do. that performance obama gave giving hillary the bird leaves me saying hell will freeze over before i vote for him. enjoy your antics barry, you are going to be a loser big time.

  • Mel

    Obamabot, read the fucking blog and stop using Obama spins on it to twist things your own way asshole, and your lies are bullshit as well!

    Rosenberg was sentenced to 58 years after being caught unloading 740 pounds of dynamite and weapons from a car in New Jersey in 1984. She was wanted on charges related to the deadly Brink’s ambush but never tried on them, and Clinton’s order released her after 16 years behind bars.

    Evans was captured in 1985 along with one of the fugitives from the Brink’s robbery, whom she was accused of harboring. Evans was sentenced to 40 years on a variety of weapons and terrorism-related convictions, including the 1983 Capitol bombing plot.

    No convictions of the Brink’s job, but you Obamabots will say whatever you want to say because frankly you are ignorant!
    http://www.newsmax.com/politics/obama_radical_fact_check/2008/04/17/88899.html

    Clinton COMMUTED their sentences, and was done at the Justice Dept request and the two of them rechanted their actions ASSWIPE, far cry from Ayers who’s daddy, Cahirman and CEO of ConEd payed a ton of lawyers to get the terrorist duo off on technicalities! So bullshit to every word you said Obamabot! Next you going to say the Clinton’s had tea with Ayers and Dohrn on a regular basis as well? Ignorance is a blessed thing, because that you will be forever and that is just dandy!

    So before you start spewing facts according to Axelrod, learn for yourself, or even better, go back to your class before you get a detention for using school resourses for your SDS activities!

  • american sawbuck

    Gee Barry was only 8 years old when this Ayers thing happened . Yet he was also only 6 or 8 years old when he went to school in Indonesia .Funny he gained all the knowledge he needed regarding International Affairs( he claims he’s better than either McCain or Hillary) at that age but claims he was just a bitty little boy regarding the Ayers fiasco . Grow Up Barry and Man Up with this Ayers thing. Dump him. The guy is a home grown terrorist and your dear friend ?.. .Sheeesh ..Who in their right mind would vote for this liar??????

  • salo

    Presidents commute sentences at the end of their administrations after they have been petitioned and the case reccomended by various underlings.

    The problem with Obama’s association is that he will be painted as a covert Weatherman himself.

    It would be hard to do that with Hillary.

  • stodghie

    go do your homework before showing your ignorance on here.

  • beebop

    AMEN …. Gore would have been elected without nader and all of this would have been fiction.

  • salo

    He’ll clearly be accused of being a covert Weatherman.

    Especially with the college following he now has–It’s a private SDS by any measure.

    The core of his support will probably overstep a boudary at some point.

  • workingclass artist

    That would be funny….O-baby can’t believe Stewart keeps reminding him of how many Jews live in america….Wish I had cable…(sigh)

  • simon, too

    I think Ayers is scared, all this violence and chaos frightens him.

    And he thinks he’s a tough guy, equal to his enemies, able to handle and intimidate others because of the subversive activities he engages in, or engaged in. He’s a badass motha, at least he is in HIS head.

    It’s childish, isn’t it, like a boy dressing in a superman cape, pretending.

    You know how bama uses the gagsta rap to try to intimidate Clinton?(Insert “bama is a repressed homosexual” joke here, lol)…

    Guys like Ayers are physically threatened by everything, they compensate by telling themselves they feel they can hold their own because they planted bombs in American cities, murdering their fellow citizens, fought back with violence, they can hold their own against Cheney, or Hamas, they’re not afraid to bomb a civilian target, KILL YOU, or me, so you better not mess with them. The feel the threat is enough to make others back off.

    Their heads are stuck up their asses, they really cant see a thing, in terms of the world, and who manipulates their fearful reaction. Wanna knee jerk reaction from Bill Ayers? Mention the sixties, criticize his activities as a terrorist? Use enough dynamite there, Bill? Over kill? Prick that narcissist.

    And he’s a college professor, right?

    They’re frightened, confused children, bottom line.

    (snicker)

  • stodghie

    being pardoned by clinton is not true, fellah. he commuted their sentence. get your facts straight. furthermore they have served substantial time rather than just gettting off like barry’s buddy. clinton never had them give dinners for her, sit on boards with them or take money from them. your pathetic attempt at a comparison just plain stinks.

  • stodghie

    ned, do you need a brain transplant. i’ll donate.

  • stodghie

    NO HE DIDN’T! NEXT!

  • workingclass artist

    Ehemmm…….( SIGH )…NODDING IN AGREEMENT…

  • stodghie

    tell you what, after you finish whining, think of something substantial to write.

  • stodghie

    ned, stfu!

  • simon, too

    And Ayers is hardly fighting for his survival, and there is a difference, compared to say, a true Iraqi fighting BACK to keep Halliburton, and Iran, off his back.

    Guys like Ayers, or Obama, are not quite ready to give up the cushy life responsible for their extra forty five pounds of middle aged spread…

  • stodghie

    huh? darn, you are one stupid troll!

  • simon, too

    Mike Royko made the point guys like Ayers protested the war because they were too cowardly to fight a real war, they might get hurt.

    Don’t make them into something they’re not, they’re stupid kids, too stupid to understand how they’re being used, victims of their narcissism.

    Things arent working out for Obama, or even K**, despite the lack of overt violent, Hollywood overkill.

  • Mel

    To some degree their is an excuse, it is called lazy, most people turn on the news, see what they believe to be true and then go merrily on their way! What is suprising is that the outcries after last week by those same people has not demanded the Media to explain WHY they never exposed this known fact about Obama months ago!

    Fact of the matter is that everyone today has access if they want to find out for themselves and yet they would rather believe the likes of Russert and the rest, and then a year after they will all be screaming for being SCREWED by the medias bias reporting!

    It is a real sad day when some Republican media shows have to do the work of Democrats in revealing the true slime of a candidate, while other Republican shows feed the slime machine more to enhance their agenda in November!

    Anyone who doesn’t think that what Dean et al have done to the voters in Mich and Fla guarantees a loss in Nov are brain dead!

    Anyone who cannot distinguish between unrepenting still active terrorists as friends and a President commuting two repentant former terrorists is simply a deadbeat!

    Throw in a rev Wright and a Rezko and an Auchi in the mix and anyone who condones that sort of candidate who is a compulsive liar is as soiled as the slime they promote!

  • Nellie

    Uppity,

    WOW! Thanks for this story.

    You brought back 1968 in a big rush. I was dating Abby Hoffman’s cousin. That was the year MLK and Bobby Kennedy were killed. I lived, and still do, on the East Coast, so I was not in Chicago at the time. But the violence, and what Abby did caused me to break up with his cousin -we were on two different tracks regarding the Violence. I was then, and now for PEACEFUL movements.

    I did not realize that I still had some grief about that year, until I cried for awhile, angry at you for “stirring the pot”.

    But ultimately, I am greatful you did. I was depressed about the new book, “Obama, The Post Modern Coup”. I have known for awhile, but not with such direct hitting specificity about the future fianancial disaster planned for us if Obama wins. Depressed, because I did not have any idea of how to fight it.

    Then up pops your article this morning and relieving some of the grief, made me realize some things. While admittedly 40 years older, I was strong, determined and centered in my values and principles then. I realized I am still strong and CAN fight back.

    So a great big thank you for providing the spark of energy I needed to move forward.

  • jmk

    Dear Barry, We realize its not your fault your mother had poor judgment in picking men. It’s sad that your daddy dumped you both by the time you were 2. We’re not surprised you resented her for hauling you off on a foreign misadventure by the time you reached school age. We can’t imagine how it must have been for you to have a strict new dad (whom you still avoid discussing at all) in a strange land far away from your serene island home.

    We get how this history wounded you and made you so approval seeking. We see why you’d want to gloss over these scars by glamorizing your unknown father and traveling to Africa, home to your many unknown sisters and brothers. We can empathize with resenting your mom further for abandoning you to your grandparents and a far away private school. We can see why you wouldn’t want the other kids to know and how motivated you’d become to prove your worth. 
 But it’s time to quit taking your inner conflicts out on the whole world. We insist that you cease and desist in your anger and bitterness toward the white race and your mom’s country of birth. Sure, picking a pal who told the youth of America to “kill their parents” was a natural match. Doing dirty behind-the-scenes politicking for a Mid East mentor, who helped eliminate competition and claw up the ladder must have seemed like a godsend. A “Christian” front church that actually preached racism and rage was also a perfect match. Charming the very people whose values you hold in contempt and envy has, no doubt, also been fun.
 It’s time you know, however, that it’s not cool to gesture obscenely, on stage before cameras, at a candidate for the highest office of this land. That’s not what we want modeled for our youth. While it could work for a gang member to “brush off the dirt” of their rivals, it doesn’t befit a political candidate to do so, unless they are running for class President of their junior high. While you may also find it cool that your cous’ Odinga raped and murdered his way across a peaceful country, in the name of Islam, most Americans don’t share that view – although we know you have never felt American and have every reason to be out of touch with values of our middle class. 
 You see, Barry, we’ve all had our challenges. Most of us, fortunately, don’t take them out on the whole world. Nor do we aim to lie our way to the top on a foundation of secret sponsors and hidden agendas. In the main, we respect our mothers and women as a whole. We already see our country as a great place, in need of correcting course, but not needing you to be The One to make it great by remaking it to suit the warped value system you’ve learned so well.
 We are bone-tired of your projections of your own bittereness and guilt onto our shoulders. We are disgusted that you’ve used words as a tool to divide the very people you claim you can unite. Frankly, we wouldn’t mind you taking your campaign to some remote island where you could, with less fatigue and spending, arouse a less informed people to your self-worshipping cause. Using your favorite mass-propaganda tool of TV, your brave new world vision could be spread ,with less resistance and expense, there to convince the majority of how wonderful you are. Then, with no annoying questions asked, you could censor the airwaves so no one dared say differently. 
 We heard your hope-notized San Fran elite also heard about your disdain for US Intelligence Services. Makes sense, as, they’ve got an unsavory history of their own, don’t they, undoing the kind of fascist dictators you so aspire to be. But we don’t need them to tell you, Barry, to go away and don’t come back until if and when you grow up enough to discover what integrity means and to really mean what you say.

  • PMS

    Hi Ned. It’s always nice when you stop by on command and demonstrate the total lack of facts Obamabots have when they regurgitate.

    Your first lie: Evans and Rosenberg were convicted of transporting explosives and weapons. They were not charged with, or convicted of, any violent acts. They were not charged with, nor convicted of, killing police officers.

    Your second lie: After serving many years in prison, their sentences were commuted, not pardoned. A very big difference.

    Your third lie:
    Billy Ayers has served on no boards with, nor consulted with, nor advised, either of the Clintons. Billy Ayers has held no fund raisers for Hillary Clinton.

    I’m not sure if Billy Ayers held a fund raiser for Bill Clinton or not. I’d love to take your word for it, but what with your being such a pathological liar, it’s kinda hard. However, if it is true, I would imagine it was a local effort, not involving President Clinton. Whole different kettle of fish.

  • stodghie

    thanks! i agree completely. i notice that spielberg stood up to china but not obama. mr. obama is no friend of jews or israel, sir. what can you be thinking.

    obama will lose in november and i say good riddance. so the aa’s want to riot if they don’t get their way? i and most americans don’t take well to threats and tantrums.

    let me ask as’s one question. what has obama ever done for you? come on, be honest. and then compare it to the clintons. you should be ashamed of yourself. in fact all so called party elders should be ashamed of yourselves. you so love fantasy, you don’t pay attention to reality.

  • stodghie

    ahh shut up!

  • Nellie

    Oh Ned, what about Oama’s Connections to Hsu?

    Hsu Steered Major Fundraisers to Obama

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/09/07/AR2007090703047.html

    Hillary gave back and to charity what Hsu raised for her. Obama will not even disclose the amounts raised by Hsu for him.

    Didn’t your momma tell you people in glass houses should not throw stones.

  • jmk

    Dear Barry, We realize its not your fault your mother had poor judgment in picking men. It’s sad that your daddy dumped you both by the time you were 2. We’re not surprised you resented her for hauling you off on a foreign misadventure by the time you reached school age. We can’t imagine how it must have been for you to have a strict new dad (whom you still avoid discussing at all) in a strange land far away from your serene island home.


    We get how this history wounded you and made you so approval seeking. We see why you’d want to gloss over these scars by glamorizing your unknown father and traveling to Africa, home to your many unknown sisters and brothers. We can empathize with resenting your mom further for abandoning you to your grandparents and a far away private school. We can see why you wouldn’t want the other kids to know and how motivated you’d become to prove your worth. 


    But it’s time to quit taking your inner conflicts out on the whole world. We insist that you cease and desist in your anger and bitterness toward the white race and your mom’s country of birth. Sure, picking a pal who told the youth of America to “kill their parents” was a natural match. Doing dirty behind-the-scenes politicking for a Mid East mentor, who helped eliminate competition and claw up the ladder must have seemed like a godsend. A “Christian” front church that actually preached racism and rage was also a perfect match. Charming the very people whose values you hold in contempt and envy has, no doubt, also been fun.


    It’s time you know, however, that it’s not cool to gesture obscenely, on stage before cameras, at a candidate for the highest office of this land. That’s not what we want modeled for our youth. While it could work for a gang member to “brush off the dirt” of their rivals, it doesn’t befit a political candidate to do so, unless they are running for class President of their junior high.

    While you may also find it cool that your cous’ Odinga raped and murdered his way across a peaceful country, in the name of Islam, most Americans don’t share that view – although we know you have never felt American and have every reason to be out of touch with values of our middle class. 


    You see, Barry, we’ve all had our challenges. Most of us, fortunately, don’t take them out on the whole world. Nor do we aim to lie our way to the top on a foundation of secret sponsors and hidden agendas. In the main, we respect our mothers and women as a whole. We already see our country as a great place, in need of correcting course, but not needing you to be The One to make it great by remaking it to suit the warped value system you’ve learned so well.


    We are bone-weary with your projections of your own bittereness and guilt onto our shoulders. We are disgusted that you’ve used words as a tool to divide the very people you claim you can unite. Frankly, we wouldn’t mind you taking your campaign to some remote island where you could, with less fatigue and spending, arouse a less informed people to your self-worshipping cause. Using your favorite mass-propaganda tool of TV, your brave new world vision could be spread ,with less resistance and expense, there to convince the majority of how wonderful you are. Then, with no annoying questions asked, you could censor the airwaves so no one dared say differently. 


    We heard your hope-notized San Fran elite also heard about your disdain for US Intelligence Services. Makes sense, as, they’ve got an unsavory history of their own, don’t they, undoing the kind of fascist dictators you so aspire to be. But we don’t need them to tell you, Barry, to go away and don’t come back until if and when you grow up enough to discover what integrity means and to really mean what you say – and to even get a clue of what it really means to be American!

  • stodghie

    it didn’t work then and won’t work now. i fault obama and his pathetic campaign for letting the threats of violence etc to continue. we all see what he really does in front of crowds now with his rapper dog whitles.

  • flyarm

    I saw the same thing in Iowa as a Precinct Caucus Co-Captain for Edwards!!..and everyone was unprepared for it..but these kids were well trained..

    I have said since ..they knew they had to steal it from Edwards from the get go..by any means nessesary…and they were using the Kids ( we Edwards volunteers called them Ipod kids)and they were building the beginning of a following almost like a “rave” fad ..a pack mentality.

    fly

  • stodghie

    this time next year, it will be obama who?

  • simon, too

    Anger, rage — this is how Obama/Axlerod controls the thugs.

    But it’s like a pool game, if I know Axelrod does this, and I know Axelrod isn’t bright, how can I use this to my advantage?

    While the FU gesture may have excited Bama’s boys, the rest of the country found it infantile, and disgusting.

    So Axelrod gets caught up in one upping Clinton, trying to intimidate her, but his, and Obama’s real enemy, want Obama, and his ring, ruined, in prison.

    And Obama, and Axelrod, don’t see this, all they see is some ancient projection of Hillary Clinton, based on their own feelings for their Moms. So they fight attempts to imprison them with some Xerox projection of Jay Z?

    Again, who is the enemy?

    Clinton?

    No, but being such stunted narcissistic infants, they don’t even see it, they are wholly unaware, throwing themselves further into chaos, a wannabe trench coat mafia of Columbine, IMO, engineered, and controlled.

    Our government isn’t afraid, that’s only their childish projections.

    My goodness, if they can’t identify their real enemy, how the hell would they run the country?

  • stodghie

    little willie ayers joined the capitalists. he has a mortgage, works in a university. he by virtue of american system of justice (he claims to despise) got a second chance at life while his buddies rotted in prison.

    so little ayers is no grand leader of anything. he is a cavein. real guerilla leaders would still be in the hills or in prison. so barry, heck of a job!

  • Salo

    If the the Weathermen had been honest, they should have gone to fight on behalf of the North Vietnamese.

    I’m not being a smart mouth either.

    There’s a long tradition of British revolutionaries joining the American revolution–Tom Paine immediately springs to mind. Of Irishmen joining any opponent of the British. Of Americans getting down with Simon Bolivar…

    There was a real fight to create communism in Vietnam–one that Ayers and Dorhn could have assisted with. To me, the pair look like incompetent vandals.

  • Salo

    at a certain point, if you are ready to commit to violence for a political cause, you might as well emigrate and join the military forces of your choice.

    It seems like an inefficient way to fight the US government to have protests and carefully planned incidents like the Weathermen.

    The US military was there ready to be defeated in the field and by and large the North Vietnamese were very good at checking the US army and giving them all sorts of trouble.

  • Salo

    Were the Weathermen active in Hawaii?

  • http://larrysinclair0926.wordpress.com/answers-to-faqs/ Candice Beers

    Jerks

  • Salo

    Dorhn does sound like she’s being Sardonic.

    Swiftian, even.

    The Weathermen had the general sympathy of the antiwar Hollywood community.

  • Mel

    Asshole, go back to Axelrod and get better Obamabot statements than you are spewing in defense of your messiah!

    You have proven you cannot think for yourself, and it is a shame the internet does not expose a persons face, so the world can see who is behind the ignorant stupidity you say, allowing employers in the future to avoid hiring the ignorant kids like yourself when you someday might graduate!

  • Nellie

    Good article.

    Everyone – Print and MAIL these types of articles to Congressman Barney Frank, at his Newton, MA office – Otherwise they sit in the Capitol Hill mailroom and are radiated to death.

    Barney is one of the GOOD guys and head of the House Banking Committee.

  • http://hyper-educated-uppity-woman.blogspot.com Uppity

    There has been NO EVIDENCE of a 15 year friendship with Ayers- that is complete BS
    What do you need, a telephone poll on your head to get it? Why don’t you just do a Google and learn something instead of typing nonsense at a board to derail other people?

  • simon, too

    I think, though, in a way, the country never healed from the violence of Viet Nam, both domestic, and foreign, and this, Obama’s clumsiness, is giving us an opening to examine what happened, why, and how to prevent future Ayers.

    And once you understand Ayers, you understand Hamas, or Hezbollah, the need to murder innocents.

    And take away the money, (and accepting money for terrorism is a passive act of terrorism, whether you’re Eric Edleman, or Obama), I would think much of the problem could be brought under control.

    It’s one thing to bomb when you’re fighting for your survival, another if you want only to make a few buck while throwing a public temper tantrum to prove you’re a badass motha.

    Both can be gamed.

    And my god, those people are DUMB.

  • Dawnelle

    Keith?? Is that you???

    (my poor virgin eyes)

  • Nellie

    Ned Get your head out of your ASS!

    Evans and Rosenberg, both women receved a LONGER sentence, than two others did who were involved, tried, and convicted for the SAME crime.

    Are all ObamaZoids funtionally illiterate?

    So all Clinton did was BALALNCE the scale of justice. Evans and Rosenberg, spent 6+ years iin jail. Their cohorts in crime were already on the street, having fully served the LIGHTER sentence they were given.

    Dhorn and Ayers, served NO Time for the murders and deaths they caused. AND they NEVER even repented! In plain English, Ayers and Dhorn got away with MURDER!

  • Talktruth

    Here’s the question for BO I just posted to Jon Stewart’s site (http://preview.tinyurl.com/4psdtt):

    “Many people think you flipped off Hillary during a speech in North Carolina recently. The video seems to show that you did, judging by the audience reaction. Did you?”

    We all know he did, but nobody else seemed to be asking about it.

    BTW, can we get rid of the vulgar “Celebrity Fan Chat” ad that’s there today? I feel like I’m at the wrong site when I see it.

  • Mel

    THe only reason Rosenberg wasn’t prosecuted for this crime was that she was serving 58 years in NJ already!!!

    Obamabot FACTs, give us a break!

    15 yr friendship, more likely a 20 year one going back to NYC days, but then again, we’d only have Obama’s word on that, and we know how Obama’s words hold up don’t we! But that is fine, should the ignorants of the Party elite allow Obama to continue, the Republicans will destroy him completely in the fall and then we will never have to see or hear from that piece of garbage again, and definately not his ignorant wife!

  • Nellie

    The already have.

  • simon, too

    mr. obama is no friend of jews or israel,

    I agree, really, Hamas is to Israel what the KKK, or neonazis, are to AA’s.

    And Obama and his ilk embrace Hamas.

    So, I wonder, can there be a “KKK chic”, like there is a radical chic, and will hip New Yorkers, and San Franciscans embrace it, also?

    Does this mean David Duke is guaranteed a teaching position at Columbia, or the University of Chicago?

  • Kathryn

    All the Obamabots are trying to equate Bill’s commuting of WU member’s sentences, AFTER they spent DECADES in jail for their crimes. I see nothing wrong with his commutations. I DO have great distain for both Ayers and Bernadine who spent not ONE DAY in jail for their crimes. Obama thinks he’s “cool” because he consorts with criminals and radicals and racists all the while playing every dirty trick in Rove’s handbook throwing LIES and distortions at Hillary. He is DIRTY POLITICS personified. His healtcare plan will NOT work and it is NOT Universal, we have got to get to UNIVERSAL. His National security advisors are all Right wingers! His economic plan is Reaganomics/Milton Friedman trickledown, gimme a BREAK. He is an empty suit and a WIMP of major proportions. His wife is SCARY and wild eyed, telling us America better get ready because her husband is gonna change things around here. Sounds like a threat not a promise. I don’t have a hole in my soul and resent her saying we all do.
    She is the one that brought Barack to that racist evil church and to Wright. THe WU destroyed all we did in SDS and hijacked the movement with their violence. I will NEVER forget. I would not sit in the same ROOM as that slimeball unrepentent Ayers much less let him throw fundraisers for him or sit on a director’s board with him. He is a criminal who got off on a technicality.

  • http://hyper-educated-uppity-woman.blogspot.com Uppity

    Obviously you’re not going to let And the result of the Brink Robbery WAS the death of two police officers and a security guard! The only reason Rosenberg wasn’t prosecuted for this crime was that she was serving 58 years in NJ already!!!

    Better get your FACTS straight before you go spouting off

    Rosenberg was “suspected” of driving one of the vehicles. She was never suspected of committing the murders. She was arrested on the movement of explosives charge. Since when do we not charge people with murder just because they are already in prison for another crime?

    Frankly I don’t know why I am wasting my time with you. Your only purpose here it to derail the fact that Barack Obama enjoys hanging around domestic and foreign terrorists and people who hate America.

    Do you know why your story has no legs? Because it has no legs, that’s why. It is totally NOT relevant. As I have said to you ad nauseum, the COMMUTES didn’t hang out with the Clintons, the clintons didn’t go to their home or accept campaign donations from them. They didn’t hold fundraisers for them. Nor did they have a relationship with them.

    And once again I would like you to look up COMMUTE and PARDON. Oh and one more thing. I read where there is a direct correlation to emotional stability and how many times a person uses an exclamation point in a post.

    We’re done with you now. And Barry will never be President.

  • Jeff

    One question:
    Why is Larry advertising porn on the upper-right hand corner of the page?

    Seriously, if that’s what I wanted, I wouldn’t bother visiting No Quarter…

  • simon, too

    They cannot come to terms with the fact that Obama is outspending Hillary 3:1 or 4:1 and if he loses by double digits it’s a really bad sign

    See, this was also Rove, and Bush.

    Despite having total control of everything, they still had to steal BOTH elections.

    Obviously, there is a fatal flaw in the fifty plus one strategy both Rove and Obama are overlooking, because it doesn’t fit in with their objective to create hate.

    Then they STILL have to steal the office, and using this same mind set, screw up everything, from Iraq, to the economy.

    None of their plans, strategies, work, it’s all wishful thinking.

  • http://hyper-educated-uppity-woman.blogspot.com Uppity

    It’s just an old troll trick to derail. We should be used to it by now. Try derailing over at KOS and see what you get. These trolls are lucky they are still hanging around here. We never had the luxury of dissent on the All-Obama-All-The-Time boards.

  • simon, too

    And somebody is watching, no doubt about it.

    Obama presents a problem to a number of people, whether it’s the American government, or the Israeli government, or even, with Auchi, the English.

  • Mel

    Want the most important quote out of Obama’s book Dream’s (or should I say Lies) of my Father?

    I chose my friends carefully.

    So no going back on your judgement Obama, you chose your friends carefully:

    Frank Marshall Davis
    Rezko
    Ayers
    Dohrn
    Jesse Jackson Jr.

    Nice lot of friends Obama, from Marxists to slumlords to terrorists to ignorant people!

    Field day time for the Republican swiftboat machine for sure and this is just the begining!

  • Jeff

    “We all know he did, but nobody else seemed to be asking about it.”

    That’s because he didn’t:

    http://www.mydd.com/comments/2008/4/18/102120/357/8#8

  • simon, too

    Out of curiosity, these hip American radicals, did they have any connections with the middle east terrorist groups starting way back when?

    I mean, how long has Ayers been connected with Khalidi, or the PLO?

    Twenty, thirty years?

  • PMS

    Dear Ms. Beers,

    I’d rather be known as a “Clinton jerk” than to be known as a “jerk-off for Obama”. Perhaps you should just stay over at the Big Orange Circle-jerk (I guess that’s what the big O means) or GOOTPM (Got Our Obama Talking Points Memo).

    This is the combination of two national nightmares. The Obama campaign is the disastrous McGovern/Dukakis folly combined with the threat of a mirror-image George W. Bush.

    What was so wrong with Peace and Prosperity?

  • http://hyper-educated-uppity-woman.blogspot.com Uppity

    I see no porn. But then I don’t go looking for porn. Do you? If you do, you might be getting pop ups from your last cookies and web bugs you picked up.

  • Jeff

    “My fantasy is they’ll play “No Scrubs” as he walks out (saw it at Corrente and then John scratches his cheek (his own, not BO’s) with his middle finger during the whole thing. Hey, I can dream, can’t I?”

    If that’s what gets you excited, go for it.

  • simon, too

    POW!

    heh.

    Candice, try to appear informed, really.

    It doesn’t pay to phone it in, some places, try to understand what you’re dealing with, here.

  • sandyR

    I’ve also heard that the delivery agent used in the Kool-Aid is having some serious side effects… If seems that college students are imploding all over the place. I’ve heard that the City employees where I live (I live in a college town) are already getting ready with the
    heavy equipment to get the body parts off the sidewalks.

  • PMS

    Barry did indeed hold up two fingers, as the vid cap shows. What the vid cap misses is his pulling down his index finger as the punch line.

  • simon, too

    Candice, if you’re going to troll, you have to be better informed than the people you’re trying to troll.

    Rule number one, don’t they teach that in astroturf school?

    Stupid Amway…

  • http://hyper-educated-uppity-woman.blogspot.com Uppity

    To me, it doesn’t even matter if he went that far. His entire speech was sophomoric and reminiscent of someone running for 10th grade class president.

  • Jeff

    “Barky is going to have to win without me.”

    True. Like most other Republicans, you won’t be voting for the Democrat.

  • simon, too

    Terrorist chic.

    Again, Hamas is to Israel as the KKK is to AA’s.

    So, why aren’t they embracing the KKK?

    How is the WU different from Hamas, they all are looking to hate, irrational hatred, once the wrapping is removed.

    Irrational hatred, stemming from “mommy and daddy don’t love me.”

    What a long strange trip the ego takes in a wannabe terrorist…

  • Jeff

    “I see no porn. “

    Then you’re blind.

  • PMS

    It’s there. It may rotate, but it’s there (middle column with the ads).

    It’s either the robot ad bundler picking up on all the obscenities laced throughout the comments, or it’s a hack.

    Either way, it needs to be gone.

  • simon, too

    My goodness, finally, a somewhat comprehensive description of Obama.

    They forget lost mama’s boy, and jew hater…

  • http://hyper-educated-uppity-woman.blogspot.com Uppity

    Clear you cache and run ADAWARE. You need it. There IS no porn on MY Screen, in ANY Corner.

  • simon, too

    Candice, again, a troll MUST be better informed than the people he or she is attempting to troll.

    Otherwise, you are a liability to your organization.

    Update, update…

  • http://hyper-educated-uppity-woman.blogspot.com Uppity

    I honestly and truly to NOT see it.

  • simon, too

    Try derailing over at KOS and see what you get

    Many do, on purpose even.

    And the stupid K%% fish just can’t catch a clue, ever.

  • http://hyper-educated-uppity-woman.blogspot.com Uppity

    Still looking.

  • workingclass artist

    Ehemmmm…..In TEXAS over 2000 complaints voter fraud and intimidation at the caucuses. HRC campaign asked Tex. to wait(conv.) until it was sorted out and was accused of trying to FIX the results. How more fixed can you get when a candidate WINS MORE THAN 95% OF THE STATE PRIMARIES and yet after counting only 40% of the caucus results you give the caucus win to OBAMA ? It was RIGGED….

  • Jeff

    “There IS no porn on MY Screen, in ANY Corner.”

    My bad. I mistook that naked woman rubbing her breasts for porn.

  • simon, too

    Poor Jeff is feeling defensive.

    For real, it’s getting confusing to you, isn’t it?

    My goodness, once it leaves the simplistic Amway marketing playbook, you people are fucked.

    No wonder you never win.

  • simon, too

    Perhaps it’s Larry’s Jay Z gangsta moment.

    Get it?

    No?

    Poor things.

  • workingclass artist

    No we need you stodghie….A mind is a terrible thing to waste and it is wasted on those that reside happily in cults…..LOL

  • TeakwoodKite

    the hypocrisy of condemning Obama

    If you think you can then you should not leave your electric drill out in the rain and expect it too work.

    What a dull bit you have anyway.

  • simon, too

    Sometimes people get trolled into hacking, bait for a criminal, and the Amway marketing crew can’t grasp how, or why, or for what reason someone would troll them in this manner.

    And when it begins to dawn on them, the why, and the who, they get too frightened, and further spin into the graves they dug for themselves, denial.

    Just an allegory.

  • workingclass artist

    OT but what say you to Jimmy Carter getting on paper Hamas leadership agreeing to peace negotiated and voted on in palestinian referendem….Heard him on NPR and it made me pause in my earlie assesment of Carter being senile…..Things that make you go Hmmm..

  • Mel

    Funny how it wasn’t there earlier Jeff, and shortly before you come on it is there, having a good hacking day are you?

  • workingclass artist

    I think I hear the sound of gagging…Candice COME UP FOR AIR…..LOL

  • workingclass artist

    Twould be funny if Stewart came up with A YIDDISH CODED RESPONSE…..
    No ?

  • workingclass artist

    It’s there under celebrity fun chat….in cheap black vinyl too….

  • workingclass artist

    TOUCHE’

  • Jeff

    Why are you responding to yourself?

  • Jeff

    “having a good hacking day are you?”

    I wish I had the skills, Mel.

  • helen

    Does anyone remember that GWB has a excutive order that cancelled the election if there is civil unrest?
    I am pretty sure the Obama followers have no clue of just what they will unleash and just how much it will cost them and the rest of the country

  • Nellie

    Twenty Years!

    Khalidi arrived in Chciago in 1983, 1984. Prior to that he was the director in Beirut of the official Palestinian press agency, FAFA, from 1972 through 1983.

  • Hillary is the Best

    DO YOU WANT OPRAH (WHO DOES NOT BELIEVE IN BIBLE)

    DO YOU WANT FARRAHKHAN (ANTI-WHITE)

    DO YOU WANT PASTOR WRIGHT(GOD DA*N*AMERICA)

    DO YOU WANT MICHELLE OBAMA(PROUD OF USA FOR 1ST TIME)

    DO YOU WANT REZKO

    DO YOU WANT WILLIAM AYERS

    DO YOU WANT LARRY SINCLAIR

    DO YOU WANT TED KENNEDY

    DO YOU WANT KERRY

    DO YOU WANT BLACK PANTHER

    DO YOU WANT HAMMAS

    DO YOU WANT JESSE JACKSON

    DO YOU WANT AL SHARPTON

    DO YOU WANT THESE PEOPLE IN THE WHITE HOUSE

    IF NOT ,,

    THEN GET TO WORK,,MAKE CALLS,,,,,,DO SOMETHING FOR UR BETTER FUTURE

    AND HELP HILL IN BEATING HIM UP

  • flyarm

    Ned Ned Ned..coming here with Free Republic- *anything* is a joke right??????????

    Ned..*commute*..can you compute?

    and do please tell us when the Weather Underground gave a campaign fund raiser for the Clintons , like Ayers did for Obama ok..or just go away..your mommy is calling..out of the basement with you for the afternoon …

  • Uppity Woman

    Jeff I have apologized to you over in the thread dealing with this. While I still do NOT see these ads, it is probably because I am a rabid blocker of things like popups and banners. But others see it too. Therefore, please accept my apology.

  • TLE

    Yes, Mr. Ayers father was the Chairman and CEO of Con Ed. Most of the Weather Underground came from well-to-do families, and their actions seem, at least in retrospect, to have been more about acting out their rebellion against their dysfunctional family life than about any real concern for social progress. Very much like GW’s issues with his parents have drawn the entire country into a downward spiral of suspicion, hate, mistrust, violence and torture.

    Senator Obama does not want to be judged “guilty by association” with people like Mr. Ayers and Reverend Wright; perhaps his parents, unlike mine, did not advise him in his youth that you are known by the company that you keep.

  • stodghie

    oh i think they probably do now, but they still suffer from the illustion they can control him. and the aa’s think he’ll be their friend? what has he done for you? huh?

    president mccain won’t care about teflon barry as he schuffles back to chicago.

  • stodghie

    some in my family campaigned for mccarthy but all they did was put out signs. i never heard of riots. i have sympathy with the anger from that period, but those weather guys were no real leaders or revolutionaries. the real ones would laugh at them.

  • stodghie

    big smile! i meant some money and best wishes. a brain would be wasted for sure.

  • stodghie

    think about this. he doesn’t serve even hamas’s best interest(if there is such a thing). he will encourage the firebrands and anger the israelies and western nations. of course, putin and china would be happy to see another dufus. more success for them while we whirl.

  • stodghie

    actually i am a former republican and left when they turned mean and crazy. i won’t vote for a dem like barry because he is no better. i’ll write in hillary’s name however.

  • TeakwoodKite

    the Republican swiftboat machine And they won’t have to pay for the gas to top of the tanks…

    Very interesting posts on this thread.

    The argument that Hillary is Bill is very strange and is odd coming from a “democrat”. I would expect to see it from a rethug.

    The argument is based on the childish retort of ‘they did it too, so I am not responsible’.

    Out of all things BO, what strikes me most, is his complete aversion to accepting responsibility for his actions.

  • stodghie

    can the false ourtrage candice.

  • jmk

    OMG Somebody with big bucks please read that quote “I Chose My Friends Carefully” and plaster it on the screen with a running list… rezko…michelle…wright…ayres.. farrakan…HAMAS…eric leeks…rev.leeks….etc.

    PLEASE GET UP A 527 AD quick and low budget…just open with above bo quote…scroll each face and name with one of their shorter debacle remarks… and end with this, from last night’s Lou Dobbs interview:

    “Obama is Comfortable with People Who Hate our Country”.
    then just fade to…….ARE YOU? ….IF NOT GO VOTE!

  • stodghie

    yup, when drinking latte and sunning by one’s acre size pool, false sympathy is so chic. however if they start blowing up ca, that will change in a hurry.

  • stodghie

    naw, but he had the socialist(marxist?) black poet for a daddy figure. notice how all of barry’s daddy figures are angry black men who diss america?

  • stodghie

    now candice, play nice or stay after school!

  • stodghie

    Please! try reading, he was hacked by obamabots.

  • flyarm

    i see no porn and i haven’t at all so i don’t know what all the talk is about ..but i thought i would let you know..i am not getting what others are..that makes me feel pretty safe and that i have enough blocks on to block these damn kooks and their pathetic games..

    but all is clear here..

    fly

  • Fred C. Dobbs

    >>> Peace Through Fire Superiority!

    That was merely the motto on the OTHER side of my helmet.

    I figured there was time for Peace, Love and Led Zeppelin after I got back, but, in the interim, it was necessary for me to defeat as many of Them as I could, lest one or more of Them defeat ME…permanently.

    And, one remaining Jingoist phrase:

    VietNam: We Were Winning When I Left!

  • Fred C. Dobbs

    >>> Mike Royko made the point guys like Ayers protested the war because they were too cowardly to fight a real war, they might get hurt.

    Or miss an episode of, “Then Came Bronson.”

  • Fred C. Dobbs

    Are you still here?

    Please turn off the CAPS. Makes everything look like it came over a TELEX circuit.

  • Hillary is the Best

    HILLARY IS GONNA BE ON KEITH OLBERMAN,S SHOW TONIGHT

    SO START EMAILING HIM

    SEND A LOT OF LOVE FOR HILLARY

    AND KICK IN HIS BALLS

    well that shows ,,her courage and electability

    she is not gonna be a president just for dems but for repubs too

    and she is not gonna be president for the people who voted for her or liked her but also for those who disagree ,,,,,,and she is willing to sit with anyone anyday anytine to discuss issues,,,,

    i love her

  • Talktruth

    Yes!

  • Talktruth

    Thanks, Mel. In this war, we need great ammunition, and that’s a beaut :-) .

  • barbh

    That’s a pretty apt comparison I think.

    Something kind of funny on J. Scarborough this morning, Axelrod was on and was yukking it up with Joe about how he had not yet “drunk the Obama Kool-Aid” I thought this was pretty hysterical given the fact that I was troll rated on Kos for even referring to people that were on the BO train as kool aid drinkers, then Axelrod does it!

    Wonder how all his followers feel about being paraphased like this…

  • http://hyper-educated-uppity-woman.blogspot.com Uppity

    Still posting that bullshit eh?

  • susan

    I would love it if someone could answer this question for me. WHY? WHY do Howard Dean of the DNC and Nancy Pelosi continue to support Obama and push for his nomination, when all signs point to the fact that he hates this country and the “rich white people” in it??? That he supports the beliefs of Wright, Ayers, Farrakhan and Khalidi? That he associates with criminals like Rezko and Auchi? What does this say about Dean and Pelosi??? It is time for “change” in politics, all right, and it needs to begin at the DNC leadership level!!! Why are they so urgently pushing for the superdelegates to end the race now, and in Obama’s favor??? What conspiracy is afoot??? What exactly are the stakes for THEM??? Okay, I have MANY questions, apparently! Who can answer them???

  • Kevin

    Susan – please cite a direct quote from Obama saying he agrees w/ Farrakhan.

    And please explain how this article is any different from someone saying – meet one of the people paralyzed during the bombing of the Chinese embassy in Kosovo?

    Either has nothing directly to do with either candidate.

  • http://www.stop-obama.org/?p=318 Stop-Obama » Letting Hate Run Wild

    [...] a left-wing “liberal.” That Murtagh fellow sure looks good on his resume! Or this poor cripple. Hey, didn’t you get Obama a job, raise money for his first Political Run, and jog with him [...]

  • lars siler

    mc cain does have a few friends that have committed acts of terrorism against innocent people-george bush&cheney to name two who are still at it today. also i grew up and knew the Elrod family-in fact his daughter was my girlfriend in grammar school-they are a fantastic family-noone condones violence,the events that led up to this started when the Republicans incited their radical base to kill Robert John and MLK to steal power,much like when the GOP did the same to steal power with their goonie squads in Miami in 2000-and just like back then,they used or started a war to keep Americans paranoid, and powerless over the erosion of our civil rights.So,yes-what happened to Mr. Elrod was unfair,unfortunate and dastardly-and i suggest you read the late Mike Royko’s take on it in the book “Boss”-but trying to assess Obama’s candidacy with an event that happened when he was 6 years old,is not in context W/McCain-Bush Iraq war

  • lars siler

    write on-of course McCain and his honchos think we’re all whiners I’m sick of these lies about tax cuts,any patriot would look for our long term as well as short term fiscal health-the truth- TAX CUTS CAN EITHER INCREASE OR DECREASE GOVT.REVENUE and they were not applied to our nation’s best interest and were unevenly split by the Bushies while at war.All short term self interest appealing to the electorate’s greed wish you had your S.S lockbox now? the blind went along with it, to allow them to bottomfeed for their class for8years drain our nations power enriching themselves thru the free market of war and human lives and 9 TRILLION NEW DEBT

  • lars siler

    I THINK YOUR WAY OF THINKING HAS TERRORIZED MY COUNTRY-YOU PEOPLE HAVE FAILED THIS COUNTRY YOU DONT CARE SO MUCH ABOUT THE GOOD OL’ USA,AS YOU DO ABOUT YOUR OWN NARROW PIGHEADED SELFISH SELF.

  • lars siler

    THIS IS THE POT CALLING THE KETTLE BLACK

  • lars siler

    WHO WERE THE KILLERS AT KENT STATE-WHO SENT SOME INNOCENTS TO THE TEXAS GAS CHAMBER WITHOUT FAIR TRIALS. HOW CAN YOU BE PARANOID ABOUT A BLACK MAN FOR PRESIDENT AFTER THE TYPE OF GOVERNMENT YOU ALLOWED THESE BOZOS TO MISMANAGE, I FOR ONE WANT TO TAKE BACK MY COUNTRY-OBAMA AIN’T MY SAVIOR,ITS GONNA TAKE DECADES TO FIX WHAT THE REPUBLICAN ROBBER BARONS HAVE DONE TO OUR INSTITUTIONS-BUT MCCAIN AINT THE ANSWER,HE WILL CONTINUE TO ACCELERATE A DOWNWARD SPIRAL TO OUR OVERALL WELL BEING.AT LEAST OBAMA CAN START GETTING US STEERED TOWARDS THE RIGHT TRACK

  • lars siler

    i think you are the hater

  • lars siler

    unlike that traitor karl rove,who deserves to have his head twisted off.Any of you folks kill any smallbirds lately?My dad once gave an out-of-work ex-con a job,should he be praised for helping society by helping to change the man’s life,or should he have been labeled a friend of criminals?

  • lars siler

    unlike McCain,who was DIRECTLY involved with Charles Keating,and the Keating 5,and barely avoided being indicted himself,which wiped out 10s of thousands of S&L depositers,and forced the goverment into an expensive bailout of the industry -boy talk about narrow thinking people!!!

  • lars siler

    i see you all have a little bit of Kommandat Karl Rove in you-Obama loves his country-unlike you haters

  • lars siler

    so i guess we didn’t kill enough innocent people, didn’t screw up enough young men,didn’t rape enough Vietmanese,and for what? to support your defense and oil stocks? this isn’t the America I love,the one you haters espouse,my America is respected by the world and fosters peace,not the future of mass destruction and the end of mankind and humanity, as you take your greedy little portfolio and profit on other’s misery and suffering,then disparage any candidate who fosters a vision for a less chaotic, stronger,and more self-reliant country-you folks don’t know future President Obama,you base your opinions on what you want to be caricatured

  • lars siler

    David Axelrod is Jewish,you dumb asses-so am I- Obama is my friend, and will receive overwhelming Jewish support as he is a friend to all people-and by the way-the man who got paralyzed in this blog story-now Judge Richard Elrod,is a relative of Axelrod’s-and Judge Elrod supports Obama too,so stick that in your Kool-AID

  • lars siler

    Well George Bush and bin laden,now they go a long way back!!So i guess these business partners are both evil

  • lars siler

    spoken like a true rascist

  • lars siler

    You know I’m glad I’m getting the last word on this blog-I have never read the opinions of bigger asses in my life-you are the most ignorant collective group of liars and traitors to our good ol’ American values, and you should all form a committe of idiocy.Lucky for you Obama’s gonna be our next Commander-in-Chief not your thumbtwirling oxygen-gasping McCain and Obama is gonna save this country’s ass-you’ll see’and maybe throw in a few personal liberties,and strengthen the rule of law towards the damage that this criminal administration did towards the Executive Branch of our government.How the hell you yokels think we can sustain this path is beyond me. What a bunch of wimps and losers you bloggers are.As Edward G Norton said to Ralph Kramden once-”A pox on you and all your ancestors”And I personally.as a proud Vet just wish you chickenhawks would all signup and do a couple tours your self.Oh and Ann Coulter?Yes dear readers,she is a BITCH!!

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