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		<title>By: elise</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/22458/hillary-on-pakistan-an-existential-threat/#comment-1194564</link>
		<dc:creator>elise</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Apr 2009 09:15:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ben, unlike some, I am willing to admit when I make a mistake and I misread part of the free republic article. However, I still dispute the contents of the article and will until there are links provided. There are no dates given and no sources. Believing you would not link to her speech in the Senate in October, 2002, I&#039;m including part of the transcript and, if you are really interested in the truth, you will read it. If you are only interested in reading something which reinforces your opinions, it is your decision. SoS Clinton will continue to serve this country as she has most of her life without your pride or lack of pride in what she has accomplished. A closed mind means living in a suffocating box. Read what she said about Iraq. Her depth of understanding might surprise you.    



&lt;i&gt;&quot;So, Mr. President, the question is how do we do our best to both defuse the real threat that Saddam Hussein poses to his people, to the region, including Israel, to the United States, to the world, and at the same time, work to maximize our international support and strengthen the United Nations?

While there is no perfect approach to this thorny dilemma, and while people of good faith and high intelligence can reach diametrically opposed conclusions, I believe the best course is to go to the UN for a strong resolution that scraps the 1998 restrictions on inspections and calls for complete, unlimited inspections with cooperation expected and demanded from Iraq. I know that the Administration wants more, including an explicit authorization to use force, but we may not be able to secure that now, perhaps even later. But if we get a clear requirement for unfettered inspections, I believe the authority to use force to enforce that mandate is inherent in the original 1991 UN resolution, as President Clinton recognized when he launched Operation Desert Fox in 1998.

If we get the resolution that President Bush seeks, and if Saddam complies, disarmament can proceed and the threat can be eliminated. Regime change will, of course, take longer but we must still work for it, nurturing all reasonable forces of opposition.

If we get the resolution and Saddam does not comply, then we can attack him with far more support and legitimacy than we would have otherwise.

If we try and fail to get a resolution that simply, but forcefully, calls for Saddam&#039;s compliance with unlimited inspections, those who oppose even that will be in an indefensible position. And, we will still have more support and legitimacy than if we insist now on a resolution that includes authorizing military action and other requirements giving some nations superficially legitimate reasons to oppose any Security Council action. They will say we never wanted a resolution at all and that we only support the United Nations when it does exactly what we want.

I believe international support and legitimacy are crucial. After shots are fired and bombs are dropped, not all consequences are predictable. While the military outcome is not in doubt, should we put troops on the ground, there is still the matter of Saddam Hussein&#039;s biological and chemical weapons. Today he has maximum incentive not to use them or give them away. If he did either, the world would demand his immediate removal. Once the battle is joined, however, with the outcome certain, he will have maximum incentive to use weapons of mass destruction and to give what he can&#039;t use to terrorists who can torment us with them long after he is gone. We cannot be paralyzed by this possibility, but we would be foolish to ignore it. And according to recent reports, the CIA agrees with this analysis. A world united in sharing the risk at least would make this occurrence less likely and more bearable and would be far more likely to share with us the considerable burden of rebuilding a secure and peaceful post-Saddam Iraq.&quot;&lt;/i&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ben, unlike some, I am willing to admit when I make a mistake and I misread part of the free republic article. However, I still dispute the contents of the article and will until there are links provided. There are no dates given and no sources. Believing you would not link to her speech in the Senate in October, 2002, I&#8217;m including part of the transcript and, if you are really interested in the truth, you will read it. If you are only interested in reading something which reinforces your opinions, it is your decision. SoS Clinton will continue to serve this country as she has most of her life without your pride or lack of pride in what she has accomplished. A closed mind means living in a suffocating box. Read what she said about Iraq. Her depth of understanding might surprise you.    </p>
<p><i>&#8220;So, Mr. President, the question is how do we do our best to both defuse the real threat that Saddam Hussein poses to his people, to the region, including Israel, to the United States, to the world, and at the same time, work to maximize our international support and strengthen the United Nations?</p>
<p>While there is no perfect approach to this thorny dilemma, and while people of good faith and high intelligence can reach diametrically opposed conclusions, I believe the best course is to go to the UN for a strong resolution that scraps the 1998 restrictions on inspections and calls for complete, unlimited inspections with cooperation expected and demanded from Iraq. I know that the Administration wants more, including an explicit authorization to use force, but we may not be able to secure that now, perhaps even later. But if we get a clear requirement for unfettered inspections, I believe the authority to use force to enforce that mandate is inherent in the original 1991 UN resolution, as President Clinton recognized when he launched Operation Desert Fox in 1998.</p>
<p>If we get the resolution that President Bush seeks, and if Saddam complies, disarmament can proceed and the threat can be eliminated. Regime change will, of course, take longer but we must still work for it, nurturing all reasonable forces of opposition.</p>
<p>If we get the resolution and Saddam does not comply, then we can attack him with far more support and legitimacy than we would have otherwise.</p>
<p>If we try and fail to get a resolution that simply, but forcefully, calls for Saddam&#8217;s compliance with unlimited inspections, those who oppose even that will be in an indefensible position. And, we will still have more support and legitimacy than if we insist now on a resolution that includes authorizing military action and other requirements giving some nations superficially legitimate reasons to oppose any Security Council action. They will say we never wanted a resolution at all and that we only support the United Nations when it does exactly what we want.</p>
<p>I believe international support and legitimacy are crucial. After shots are fired and bombs are dropped, not all consequences are predictable. While the military outcome is not in doubt, should we put troops on the ground, there is still the matter of Saddam Hussein&#8217;s biological and chemical weapons. Today he has maximum incentive not to use them or give them away. If he did either, the world would demand his immediate removal. Once the battle is joined, however, with the outcome certain, he will have maximum incentive to use weapons of mass destruction and to give what he can&#8217;t use to terrorists who can torment us with them long after he is gone. We cannot be paralyzed by this possibility, but we would be foolish to ignore it. And according to recent reports, the CIA agrees with this analysis. A world united in sharing the risk at least would make this occurrence less likely and more bearable and would be far more likely to share with us the considerable burden of rebuilding a secure and peaceful post-Saddam Iraq.&#8221;</i></p>
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		<title>By: Benjamin Cardozo</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/22458/hillary-on-pakistan-an-existential-threat/#comment-1194550</link>
		<dc:creator>Benjamin Cardozo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Apr 2009 08:19:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You should consider taking a course in remedial reading comprehension  before you post again, unless you really believe that in 1998 FIRST LADY HILLARY CLINTON along with Sen. Daschel were being extremely prognostic about an event to occur in 2001.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You should consider taking a course in remedial reading comprehension  before you post again, unless you really believe that in 1998 FIRST LADY HILLARY CLINTON along with Sen. Daschel were being extremely prognostic about an event to occur in 2001.</p>
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		<title>By: elise</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/22458/hillary-on-pakistan-an-existential-threat/#comment-1194531</link>
		<dc:creator>elise</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Apr 2009 07:03:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So, Ben, let me see if I have this right. In 1998 FIRST LADY HILLARY CLINTON along with Sen. Daschel, was writing legislation to go to war with Iraq?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So, Ben, let me see if I have this right. In 1998 FIRST LADY HILLARY CLINTON along with Sen. Daschel, was writing legislation to go to war with Iraq?</p>
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		<title>By: NoBamaNoWay</title>
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		<dc:creator>NoBamaNoWay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Apr 2009 03:43:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>correct; and i guarantee you that deep down, even Ocultists have more confidence in HRC than they do in their messiah.  they know that he&#039;s all hot air and she&#039;s about getting the job done and doing what&#039;s best for america.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>correct; and i guarantee you that deep down, even Ocultists have more confidence in HRC than they do in their messiah.  they know that he&#8217;s all hot air and she&#8217;s about getting the job done and doing what&#8217;s best for america.</p>
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		<title>By: zoo zoo</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/22458/hillary-on-pakistan-an-existential-threat/#comment-1194346</link>
		<dc:creator>zoo zoo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Apr 2009 01:56:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Look Ma, no teleprompter!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Look Ma, no teleprompter!</p>
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		<title>By: Docelder</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/22458/hillary-on-pakistan-an-existential-threat/#comment-1194340</link>
		<dc:creator>Docelder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Apr 2009 01:44:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>But history is a fluid commodity these days. They don&#039;t make it like they used to.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But history is a fluid commodity these days. They don&#8217;t make it like they used to.</p>
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		<title>By: Docelder</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/22458/hillary-on-pakistan-an-existential-threat/#comment-1194339</link>
		<dc:creator>Docelder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Apr 2009 01:42:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;I wonder if the Far Left gets it now.&lt;/blockquote&gt; Hardly. It will be our fault before it is done, if it isn&#039;t already our fault. Preferably it will be George Bush&#039;s fault if at all  possible. Thank goodness we have our best &quot;community organizer&quot; on top of it. Not on top of the situation... on top of organizing the media in so far as fault is concerned.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>I wonder if the Far Left gets it now.</p></blockquote>
<p> Hardly. It will be our fault before it is done, if it isn&#8217;t already our fault. Preferably it will be George Bush&#8217;s fault if at all  possible. Thank goodness we have our best &#8220;community organizer&#8221; on top of it. Not on top of the situation&#8230; on top of organizing the media in so far as fault is concerned.</p>
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		<title>By: Benjamin Cardozo</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/22458/hillary-on-pakistan-an-existential-threat/#comment-1194335</link>
		<dc:creator>Benjamin Cardozo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Apr 2009 01:37:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I remember the last time Hillary made me proud by standing resolutely and firmly in her convictions.

&lt;em&gt;Hillary Clinton and Tom Daschle may have said it as boldly as anyone—
“Members of al Qaeda, an organization bearing responsibility for attacks on the United States, its citizens, and interests, including the attacks that occurred on Sept. 11, 2001,” said Clinton and Daschle, “are known to be in Iraq” said Clinton and Daschle, &quot;America must launch a preemptive war.&quot; They were so convinced of this, they wrote it into law.&lt;/em&gt;

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/833612/posts</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I remember the last time Hillary made me proud by standing resolutely and firmly in her convictions.</p>
<p><em>Hillary Clinton and Tom Daschle may have said it as boldly as anyone—<br />
“Members of al Qaeda, an organization bearing responsibility for attacks on the United States, its citizens, and interests, including the attacks that occurred on Sept. 11, 2001,” said Clinton and Daschle, “are known to be in Iraq” said Clinton and Daschle, &#8220;America must launch a preemptive war.&#8221; They were so convinced of this, they wrote it into law.</em></p>
<p><a href="http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/833612/posts" rel="nofollow">http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/833612/posts</a></p>
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		<title>By: Ani</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ani</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Apr 2009 01:23:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for posting this Susan.  Listening to that last video of Hillary, I so appreciate her straightforward approach as always.  Her heartfelt appeal on behalf of protecting the lives of USAID workers and civilian contractors is amazing.  I was shocked by the statistic that 1 in 10 have been killed there, while in the military, the casualty rate is 1 in 57.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for posting this Susan.  Listening to that last video of Hillary, I so appreciate her straightforward approach as always.  Her heartfelt appeal on behalf of protecting the lives of USAID workers and civilian contractors is amazing.  I was shocked by the statistic that 1 in 10 have been killed there, while in the military, the casualty rate is 1 in 57.</p>
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		<title>By: Ken in IL</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ken in IL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Apr 2009 01:17:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OPEC should be throwing more than a few bucks in these pots - can we tax them ???</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OPEC should be throwing more than a few bucks in these pots &#8211; can we tax them ???</p>
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		<title>By: Peggy Sue</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/22458/hillary-on-pakistan-an-existential-threat/#comment-1194299</link>
		<dc:creator>Peggy Sue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Apr 2009 01:00:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, from what I&#039;ve read [and who knows what&#039;s going on behind closed door] there are contingency plans for securing those nukes in a &quot;worst case scenario.&quot;  Doesn&#039;t mean it will be easy or guaranteed but I don&#039;t think anyone is thinking they can leave this mess to chance.

But I have to say, listening to Hillary Clinton&#039;s comments in the final vid, I think we should thank our stars that HRC and her capable staff and the Defense [Gates] and NSA [Jones] are seasoned and competent professionals.  Hillary was pooh-pooed over the statement: Ready on Day One.

I wonder if the Far Left gets it now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, from what I&#8217;ve read [and who knows what's going on behind closed door] there are contingency plans for securing those nukes in a &#8220;worst case scenario.&#8221;  Doesn&#8217;t mean it will be easy or guaranteed but I don&#8217;t think anyone is thinking they can leave this mess to chance.</p>
<p>But I have to say, listening to Hillary Clinton&#8217;s comments in the final vid, I think we should thank our stars that HRC and her capable staff and the Defense [Gates] and NSA [Jones] are seasoned and competent professionals.  Hillary was pooh-pooed over the statement: Ready on Day One.</p>
<p>I wonder if the Far Left gets it now.</p>
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		<title>By: andrew 191</title>
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		<dc:creator>andrew 191</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Apr 2009 00:43:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>India will not tolerate an unstable enemy neighbor that has nukes. They will probably launch a pre-emptive strike if Pakistan appears likely to fall into Taliban hands. Perhaps the question that needs to be adressed is, what will be the response after India strikes?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>India will not tolerate an unstable enemy neighbor that has nukes. They will probably launch a pre-emptive strike if Pakistan appears likely to fall into Taliban hands. Perhaps the question that needs to be adressed is, what will be the response after India strikes?</p>
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		<title>By: Doc99</title>
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		<dc:creator>Doc99</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Apr 2009 00:09:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://mypetjawa.mu.nu/archives/197403.php&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Warm Up The Nukes.&lt;/a&gt;</description>
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