Comments on: The Tortured Logic of the Torture Fans http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/22590/the-tortured-logic-of-the-torture-fans/ Sun, 27 May 2012 08:25:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.4 By: “The Campaign’s Over, Obama; It’s Time To Lead” : NO QUARTER http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/22590/the-tortured-logic-of-the-torture-fans/#comment-1198345 “The Campaign’s Over, Obama; It’s Time To Lead” : NO QUARTER Wed, 29 Apr 2009 20:00:35 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=22590#comment-1198345 [...] memos, a number of my fellow writers at No Quarter have taken this on, including none other than Larry Johnson, American Girl In Italy, and SusanUnPC, to name a few. No need for me to get into that with such [...] [...] memos, a number of my fellow writers at No Quarter have taken this on, including none other than Larry Johnson, American Girl In Italy, and SusanUnPC, to name a few. No need for me to get into that with such [...]

]]> By: DCMediagirl http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/22590/the-tortured-logic-of-the-torture-fans/#comment-1197364 DCMediagirl Tue, 28 Apr 2009 13:31:00 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=22590#comment-1197364 Portia Elizabeth Crockett: Regarding Hannity, I'm reminded of the saying that even a stopped clock tells the right time twice a day. Portia Elizabeth Crockett: Regarding Hannity, I’m reminded of the saying that even a stopped clock tells the right time twice a day.

]]> By: DCMediagirl http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/22590/the-tortured-logic-of-the-torture-fans/#comment-1197344 DCMediagirl Tue, 28 Apr 2009 12:23:56 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=22590#comment-1197344 BFB: Thank you for being sane. I'm afraid that a few regulars who comment on this subject seem to admire the tactics used by goons in countries like Saudi Arabia. BFB: Thank you for being sane. I’m afraid that a few regulars who comment on this subject seem to admire the tactics used by goons in countries like Saudi Arabia.

]]> By: DCMediagirl http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/22590/the-tortured-logic-of-the-torture-fans/#comment-1197342 DCMediagirl Tue, 28 Apr 2009 12:17:19 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=22590#comment-1197342 I see. So you don't condone torture against innocent people. Bully for you. Are you making the assumption that each and every individual tortured by the US is guilty just because they're incarcerated in an American facility? Because the facts prove otherwise. But I guess that according to you we should go ahead and torture them just to be on the safe side. And your views on "evil people who want to destroy our country" sounds oddly familiar...let's see..Argentina, El Salvador, Chile, Cambodia, Uganda, Burma, Vietnam, Saudi Arabia, Afghanistan..the list goes on and on. I see. So you don’t condone torture against innocent people. Bully for you. Are you making the assumption that each and every individual tortured by the US is guilty just because they’re incarcerated in an American facility? Because the facts prove otherwise. But I guess that according to you we should go ahead and torture them just to be on the safe side. And your views on “evil people who want to destroy our country” sounds oddly familiar…let’s see..Argentina, El Salvador, Chile, Cambodia, Uganda, Burma, Vietnam, Saudi Arabia, Afghanistan..the list goes on and on.

]]> By: layla http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/22590/the-tortured-logic-of-the-torture-fans/#comment-1196785 layla Mon, 27 Apr 2009 16:13:39 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=22590#comment-1196785 Never thought i'd see Larry acting like an obamamite. Attacking and threatening anyone that disagrees with him. I detest Olberman ever since he went after Hillary - he's a sexist pig. I have no respect for him. Of course olberman is hitching his wagon to Hannity's suggestion. He would just love to be setting there on his ass watching hannity being tortured. Of course waterboarding is not pleasant. But, I'll tell you this, if Obama suddenly changed his mind and said waterboarding was not torture, the pig Keitho would be right in there agreeing with him and saying he had to change his way of thinking and agree with obama on this. And you know it Larry - he's a sychophant! Nothing....I mean nothing....Olberman can do after he viciously crucified Hillary, will cause me to watch his show or have any respect for him. Im surprised at you and ashamed for you at the way your attacking your loyal followers. Never thought i’d see Larry acting like an obamamite. Attacking and threatening anyone that disagrees with him.

I detest Olberman ever since he went after Hillary – he’s a sexist pig. I have no respect for him. Of course olberman is hitching his wagon to Hannity’s suggestion.
He would just love to be setting there on his ass watching hannity being tortured.
Of course waterboarding is not pleasant.
But, I’ll tell you this, if Obama suddenly changed his mind and said waterboarding was not torture, the pig Keitho would be right in there agreeing with him and saying he had to change his way of thinking and agree with obama on this. And you know it Larry – he’s a sychophant!
Nothing….I mean nothing….Olberman can do after he viciously crucified Hillary, will cause me to watch his show or have any respect for him.
Im surprised at you and ashamed for you at the way your attacking your loyal followers.

]]> By: J.J. (The PUMA) http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/22590/the-tortured-logic-of-the-torture-fans/#comment-1196682 J.J. (The PUMA) Mon, 27 Apr 2009 12:59:56 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=22590#comment-1196682 I would watch a Wrestlemania of torture. Waterboard Hanity, use testicle trama on Olbermann and force Limbaugh to go through oxicotin withdrawal cold turkey. And finally, make Anderson Cooper "teabag" somebody while trying to talk. (Oh, I guess Cooper might not consider that torture). I would watch a Wrestlemania of torture. Waterboard Hanity, use testicle trama on Olbermann and force Limbaugh to go through oxicotin withdrawal cold turkey. And finally, make Anderson Cooper “teabag” somebody while trying to talk. (Oh, I guess Cooper might not consider that torture).

]]> By: Pieter B http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/22590/the-tortured-logic-of-the-torture-fans/#comment-1196596 Pieter B Mon, 27 Apr 2009 06:41:26 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=22590#comment-1196596 <blockquote>Water boarding can not be proven a definitive case of torture</blockquote> Yes it can, and has been. The US prosecuted and in some cases executed Japanese soldiers for waterboarding US POWs in WW II. You might also read Christopher Hitchens's piece in Vanity Fair last August. http://www.vanityfair.com/politics/features/2008/08/hitchens200808 Hitchens had opined that waterboarding wasn't torture, and volunteered to undergo it. It took him twelve seconds to change his mind. Apparently he has a touch of PTSD from the experience.

Water boarding can not be proven a definitive case of torture

Yes it can, and has been. The US prosecuted and in some cases executed Japanese soldiers for waterboarding US POWs in WW II.

You might also read Christopher Hitchens’s piece in Vanity Fair last August. http://www.vanityfair.com/politics/features/2008/08/hitchens200808 Hitchens had opined that waterboarding wasn’t torture, and volunteered to undergo it. It took him twelve seconds to change his mind. Apparently he has a touch of PTSD from the experience.

]]> By: Pieter B http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/22590/the-tortured-logic-of-the-torture-fans/#comment-1196586 Pieter B Mon, 27 Apr 2009 05:56:06 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=22590#comment-1196586 And how do you determine who actually is a terrorist and who isn't? It has been shown over and over again that a large percentage of those held at Guantanamo and abu Ghraib were and are ordinary non-terrorist citizens who were in the wrong place at the wrong time. Others were kidnaped and turned in for the bounties we offered. And how do you determine who actually is a terrorist and who isn’t? It has been shown over and over again that a large percentage of those held at Guantanamo and abu Ghraib were and are ordinary non-terrorist citizens who were in the wrong place at the wrong time. Others were kidnaped and turned in for the bounties we offered.

]]> By: Kat5 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/22590/the-tortured-logic-of-the-torture-fans/#comment-1196389 Kat5 Sun, 26 Apr 2009 23:40:28 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=22590#comment-1196389 Thank you. Thank you.

]]> By: foxyladi14 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/22590/the-tortured-logic-of-the-torture-fans/#comment-1196332 foxyladi14 Sun, 26 Apr 2009 21:27:28 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=22590#comment-1196332 thanks Larry.good article as always.and sparked alot of debate,which is a good thing. thanks Larry.good article as always.and sparked alot of debate,which is a good thing.

]]> By: foxyladi14 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/22590/the-tortured-logic-of-the-torture-fans/#comment-1196324 foxyladi14 Sun, 26 Apr 2009 21:08:07 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=22590#comment-1196324 thanks,i agree thanks,i agree

]]> By: foxyladi14 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/22590/the-tortured-logic-of-the-torture-fans/#comment-1196295 foxyladi14 Sun, 26 Apr 2009 20:53:00 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=22590#comment-1196295 don't mean it.s working tho.... don’t mean it.s working tho….

]]> By: foxyladi14 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/22590/the-tortured-logic-of-the-torture-fans/#comment-1196289 foxyladi14 Sun, 26 Apr 2009 20:45:41 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=22590#comment-1196289 three of us.lol. three of us.lol.

]]> By: foxyladi14 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/22590/the-tortured-logic-of-the-torture-fans/#comment-1196285 foxyladi14 Sun, 26 Apr 2009 20:36:08 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=22590#comment-1196285 not if he has his way. not if he has his way.

]]> By: stodgie http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/22590/the-tortured-logic-of-the-torture-fans/#comment-1196284 stodgie Sun, 26 Apr 2009 20:30:31 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=22590#comment-1196284 ferd, as always you are an eloquent spokesman for your view. i concur with the torture issue. i understand some of the emotion for the other side, though as has been pointed out, it doesn't work. my concern lies with those we are supposesd to trust in govenemnt handling this the right way. in the far left and over zealous hands, it will be screwed up worse than if we waited till more stable leaders could handle it. this is a very tough issue and i don't have the answers, just some very real questions. ferd, as always you are an eloquent spokesman for your view. i concur with the torture issue. i understand some of the emotion for the other side, though as has been pointed out, it doesn’t work.

my concern lies with those we are supposesd to trust in govenemnt handling this the right way. in the far left and over zealous hands, it will be screwed up worse than if we waited till more stable leaders could handle it. this is a very tough issue and i don’t have the answers, just some very real questions.

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