The lady has class and makes me chuckle

Chelsea!

Hey, I’m an Obama supporter, and I like Hillary Clinton. I just can’t vote for her in the primary. But you bet if she was the nominee in November, I would vote for her in a heartbeat.

Can anyone else here make the same claim for Obama? As Democrats, can’t we unite under the same progressive banner against a neoconservative like John McCain?

…but I do believe in redemption Keith… I think it’s possible for anyone to see the error of their ways… …I am bringing people together as we speak…

This was just downright perfect. Just one more reason Hillary is Miles ahead in ability to think on her feet than Mr. Ahhhhhhhh Ummmmmmm.

I’m an independent voter who almost always votes Democratic, but no, I can’t.

No.

nope

From FOX:

WASHINGTON — One of President Nixon’s daughters, Julie Nixon Eisenhower, apparently supports a Democrat in this year’s presidential contest — Barack Obama.

Eisenhower has contributed the maximum amount allowed during the primary season to Obama’s campaign: $2,300. Federal Election Commission records show she gave Obama’s campaign $1,000 on Feb. 4, another $1,000 on Feb. 18 and $300 on March 5.

One of her father’s staunchest defenders during the Watergate scandal, she married the grandson of another Republican president, David Eisenhower, just before her father took office.

Since her father’s resignation, she has written several books and is now co-chair of the Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Birthplace Foundation.

So Julie Eisenhower is smart enough to see that by giving money to Barack Obama helps the Republicans in November … Her father would be proud.

***Wack on the back***

spit it out would you!

Isn’t that neat. I had no idea she was so bright and articulate until this campaign. Kind of assumed she had to be, given her parents. But she is really having a great effect on this campaign.

If you click on the tag for Chelsea Clinton, you’ll see this story I did a while ago.

“Imagine If This Were Your Daughter.”

It’s not just a rant against how she was treated by some thugs on the campaign trail … it also quotes a terrific NYTimes article about how smart she is, and how much she knows. She’s a wonk just like her mom.

he sure would. i’m sure he’s laughing up at us.

I voted for Hillary in the primary and I will vote for her in the GE. I will vote for the democratic candidate.
I am really tired of hearing Obama and his hope, he will bring a new vision to DC. We heard that before with Reagan and Bush and look what it got us. That Bush vision has oil at $119.69 at this very moment and the market is down 135 points. And a war that won’t end. How’s that hope working out for everyone?

I would post this to Jeff, but feel he gets paid by the number of direct hit responses to his posts!

Jeff, good conscience and meaningful values requires me to say “NO” and I have no problem in saying so, and I will do all I can to convince others of the same!

Oh, I will vote for the nominee- unfortunately, I think only one candidate can win… guess whou

Yes I will vote for Obama in November. I could never vote Republican for any reason. EVER.

You’ve expressed my sentiments exactly. Why wouldn’t Americans want a President who stands up and takes the knocks, refuses to give up on what she believes in and is tough enough to take anything that’s thrown at her?

Another one of the “common folks” scrimping on lunch for Obama. Brings tears to my eyes… and such Hope™.

I wish you would take that question over to HuffPo and DailyObama et al. My sense is that most Obama supporters don’t feel like you do.

Part of the problem is that Obama and his campaign and his supporters have behaved in such vile ways. It’s kind of like asking a battered woman of she’ll take back her batterer.

One of a great many reasons to support Hillary- a top 5 (at least) in my book.

That was the BEST last line!!

I hope Oldbirdman took particular note!

His sanctimonious attacks towards Hillary in past days has been staggering!

My honest answer is no, he lost me when he called Bill Clinton a racist. That was it. End of discussion. I wasn’t too keen on the way Gerri Ferraro was treated, but Bill Clinton? Way out of line. You don’t piss on the legacy of the Bill Clinton and tell us it’s just raining a little.

Go Hillary! We need you so that Democrats can continue to vote for a Democratic candidate!

Must see new video “Triumph”

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VLkHpVHj4TE

rorflmao

One of the most fascinating parts of a new poll today on Pennsylvanian Democrats was that 32% of them say that they could NOT vote for Obama.

First, let me say that your comment is exceptional in our experience: Usually, we are attacked for not supporting Obama. But your comment is respectful and dignified, and I’m grateful.

But we are all very, very worried about Obama — that not only are his qualifications rather scant but also that he provides such easy fodder for the Republicans in a general election. McCain would be able to devastate him on national security issues alone. Not good.

I think it is important that we all keep electability in mind as a motivating force in our support for candidates. We need to be realistic.

“I would post this to Jeff, but feel he gets paid by the number of direct hit responses to his posts!”

Wouldn’t that be nice!

“My honest answer is no, he lost me when he called Bill Clinton a racist.”

That never happened.

have it your way. I’m not going to argue with you. We know what Bill said. We know what he meant. For the campaign to spin it to turn out the AA vote in SC was smart for the short term but fool hardy long term.

Bill Clinton doesn’t have to defend his record to Barry Obama.

“First, let me say that your comment is exceptional in our experience: Usually, we are attacked for not supporting Obama. But your comment is respectful and dignified, and I’m grateful.”

I appreciate your restrained, thoughtful, complimentary response, Susan. As always.

“I think it is important that we all keep electability in mind as a motivating force in our support for candidates. We need to be realistic.”

There are certainly reasons to be nervous for either candidate going up against McCain. I think that Hillary would be very vulnerable against him b/c of the sniper story. I think Obama is vulnerable against him for the reasons stated. That said, I just prefer his freshness over her experience. In the general, I will be voting for the Democrat, regardless of who it is.

That said, Susan’s response is a far cry from saying “I will never vote for Obama”, and I appreciate that.

And what about Ferarro? She said exactly what he has up on his own website. Not one word is different. He linked her in a sentence with a hate monger.

“have it your way. I’m not going to argue with you. We know what Bill said. We know what he meant. For the campaign to spin it to turn out the AA vote in SC was smart for the short term but fool hardy long term. “

See, and already you’ve backtracked. There is a world of difference between “Barack Obama called Bill Clinton a racist”, and “the Obama campaign was critical of Clinton’s remarks about Jesse Jackson also winning S.C.”.

There is a serious extrapolation problem among many of the posters here.

Baby-O has proven in this camaign that he cares not one wit for the democratic party…He’s overated and underqualified….One year in the US senate shows me nothin….Indonesia residency absorbing foreign policy at the age of 6 shows me nothin….Awkwardly pretendin you have street cred with hip hop lingo/code shows me nothin…Every time I get a mental picture of bab-O surrounded by world leaders I can’t decide whether to laugh or throw up…..He is not POTUS material….

hey me too, an indie, have never voted for a repub, probably never will, but I won’t vote for BO. I will vote downticket races though. He lost me when he played the race card against the Clintons in SC and he won’t get me back.

Hmmm…..Tricky Dick…missing momens on tape….Baby-O…missing sate senate papers…..Things that make you go Hmmmm………

“So Julie Eisenhower is smart enough to see that by giving money to Barack Obama helps the Republicans in November … Her father would be proud.”

Please explain how having a high-profile Republican legacy donating money and support to Barack Obama, instead of the GOP standard-bearer John McCain, “helps the Republicans in November”.

You’ve missed the point completely.

No, baby ….

Only to you.

It never ceases to amaze me how little BOBO has actually done for African Americans … he let tenants freeze in slums in Chicago. He doesn’t show up for Tavis’ meeting, he doesn’t show at the official MLK observance … he’s a regular AA no show.

What a Lady Eeh?
She is a very strong Woman, need say more.
She is simply the best

“Yes I will vote for Obama in November. I could never vote Republican for any reason. EVER.”

Thanks Jennifer!

Vote for Obama in the GE? No thanks. I will not reward him for running such a vicious campaign. McCain will win if he runs against Obama. Barack is too frail to handle a real campaign where the media’s not in the tank for him. McCain will be a one term president and I will vote for Hillary in 2012. I’m also dropping out of the Democratic Party to become an Independant. Dean, Brazille, and Pelosi have been a disgrace. I’m urging all Dems to switch to Indy.

“I’m urging all Dems to switch to Indy.”

If they do that, there will be many Democratic primaries/caucuses they can’t participate in!

has the Stalinist rewriting of history already started?

She’s one of yours.

So, can you No Quarter folks shed some light on this. Is Soros behind the coup within the Democratic Party? If so, what is Soros’ vision for the country?

http://www.hillaryclintonforum.net/discussion/showthread.php?t=7541&highlight=soros

Thanks!

Barack Obama never said that in public, but his campaign and his surrogates said it with Obama’s blessings. It’s not like you can take the faux outrage any other way (unless we are supposed to think that being compared to Jesse Jackson is a bad thing).

hillary is the best

obama is just another Oblunder

No worries. The party isn’t listening to us now. They can go forward with the party they have, not the party they wish they had.

Clinton has run her campaign with dignity and grace. OTH, he has run a vile campaign all the time talking about some new politics — that is the heights of deception. I do feel angry that this impostor who can not assemble a winning coalition in the primary (no big state wins) and is seen more and more as a risk for GE, can become the nominee on a technicality. I feel angry that he blocked the count/revote in FL and MI. Right now, I have no interest in being faithful to the party when they are not loyal to their base. We could easily have had both of them — her now and him in 2016. But the prince could not wait longer — the sense of arrogance and entitlement is enough to reject him, especially when he does not have any other redeeming qualities. No, I won’t vote for him in November. He will lose if he is the nominee and I hope, we will never see him again on the political scene.

DUH

I think you might want to ask him ….

But that’s just me.

She knows Obama would be easier for McCain to beat– that’s why she donated to his cmpaign.

If MI and FL are not brought into the national picture immediately and their votes counted, and if Obama is the Democratic nominee, I will not vote for president in November. If MI and FL are returned to the national picture immediately and their votes counted, then I will vote for the Democratic nominee whomever it is. Your move, Dean.

Can the Democratic nominee win the presidency in November without Michigan and Florida? That’s what we are facing if Michigan and Florida aren’t included. So Obama won’t win not matter what. Your move, Dean.

If you think that Julie Eisenhower is actually going to vote for Barack Obama in the general election, let me tell you that your brain has been totally eaten away by whatever it is that the obamazoids are feeding you. She is her father’s daughter. She is no more going to support a Democrat that she is going to endorse Hamas. She’ll leave that to Carter.

They will again to try to paint Bill as a racist in NC…wait and see. They saw it worked in SC, they will try it again in NC.

If he was not actively trying to disenfranchise Florida and Michigan to “win” the primary I might be able to. But that is a deal-breaker for me.

Sorry

http://caffertyfile.blogs.cnn.com/2008/04/22/should-clinton-quit-if-she-doesn%e2%80%99t-win-pa-by-at-least-10-points/

pls fix this cafferty guy on CNN

HE IS ALWAYS PLAYING SEXISM CARD TO HILLARY

i hate him ,,

why he is so biased ,,,,,

If they do, they will not be able to run on the record of any successful Democrat.

He is a virtual unknown with no support except from the party’s biggest collection of losers and ties to the biggest collection of hate mongers and hate America firsts ….

I think we’d all be nuts to vote for him. But that’s just one woman’s opinion.

I think he has a really little dick — that is Calffries does — but it’s just a hunch. And I don’t know how many times he’s been married, but by the looks of him, he’s lost a lot of money to bad decisions ….

I know! Then they drummed it all out again in MS- disgusting.

I’m sorry, but I don’t have to “fall in line” with party loyalty, since party leaders are not loyal to their own base. I will not vote for Obama in November, have said so before.
@ jimbo, Coward Dean (copyright uppity woman ) said that once we have a nominee FL and MI will be seated in Denver. Excuse me, but what is the point of seating them, if their vote is not respected? Especially in Fl? Anyway, no need to beat a dead horse .

Her husband was going to run against Senator Clinton in 2006. And, now she is supporting a Dem. Something does not sit right with me and this is old news. It was in the WAPO in February. What happend? Did BO send out another press release?

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/04/22/clinton-iran-would-pay-a-very-high-price-for-nuclear-attack/#comments

CNN ATTACKING HILLARY AGAIN ….MAKING HER LOOK LIKE A WAR LOVER

PLS BLOG AND FIX OBAMABOTS

Question: “Will you support the Democratic nominee?”

Hillary: “Yes, I will do everything I can to get a Democrat in the White House”

Michelle Obama: “I’d have to think about it”

I’m all done being beat up by Obama supporters. If it’s not Hillary there is no one left who could earn my vote.

Something does not sit right with me and this is old news. It was in the WAPO in February. What happend? Did BO send out another press release?

I AGREE

THATS WHAT PISSED ME OFF MORE

THEY ARE SO ARROGANT ,,,,

Lerry and Susan, Can you take Jeff out. I am tired to read his writing. He change your posts focus again and again.

Now is the time for all good people to come to the aid of their candidate- Hillary.

I want Hillary to win big in PA today! May every one watch very careful in PA. Do not let the opponent to play game like they did in TX.

well, michelle obama, i don’t have to think about it. not any more. hillary will support your ahole husband if he’s nominated. but i won’t.

If you love Hillary you should vote for her. I will write her nam ein if she is not the party nominee.

I am an Indie that always votes Democratic, so I will NEVER vote McCain. He likes to use the “c” word a little too much besides other things.

I just can’t bring myself to vote Obama….I don’t trust him.

no, sorry i can’t. we thank for being open minded. i was telling someone at lunch today that if obama had been half of what he projected i would be happy to vote for him. but his associations and ugly attitude in this campaign leaves me saying heck no i won’t.

Obama is recycling the Bush 2000 compassionate conservative humble foreign policy uniter not divider change bullshit campaign relabeled as “New!!!

If a white guy did that he would be jeered.

“If you think that Julie Eisenhower is actually going to vote for Barack Obama in the general election, let me tell you that your brain has been totally eaten away by whatever it is that the obamazoids are feeding you. She is her father’s daughter. She is no more going to support a Democrat that she is going to endorse Hamas. She’ll leave that to Carter.”

You’re misreading history. Eisenhower was, by today’s standards, a moderate Democrat. He certainly wouldn’t fit in today’s GOP. Obama is a natural fit for Julie Eisenhower.

The point is to put money in BO’s coffers so that he can ‘win’ the Dem nomination. Thereby delivering a fatally flawed and weak Dem nominee to be led to the slaughter in November.

Its pretty transparent, actually.

I like your reply … I will have to use that one in future “discussions”.

Definitely not.

no way would julie vote for barrack. she has a great deal of regard for her father’s memory. naw!

“Its pretty transparent, actually.”

It is, but not in the way you think.

LOL

NO ,,,,PEANUT SIZE BALLS ,,,,,

MAY BE OUT OF VIAGARA RX

it wasn’t julie but tricia’s husband who was going to run i think.

I get dizzy reading his articles there is so much anti-Hillary spin. I always comment to try to get the good word out there. yeah, he’s a pig.

THIS TIME ,,WE WILL FIGHT BACK

WE WILL BLOG

WE WILL EMAIL NEWSCHANNELS

WE WILL RALLY

WE WILL DONATE

WE WILL MAKE CALLS

THIS TIME ,,,I WILL NOT BE QUIET LIKE THE LAST TIME

I WILL SCREAM AND SCREAM AND I WILL NOT LET INJUSTICE HAPPEN TO BILL OR HILLARYYYYYYYYY

“No worries. The party isn’t listening to us now. They can go forward with the party they have, not the party they wish they had.”

Did you behave this way in 2004, when your primary candidate lost to Kerry? Or were you a Kerry supporter all the way through?

I was a die-hard Deaniac. I enthusiastically voted for Kerry in November.

NO I CAN,T ,,,SORRY DUDE

AND THATS BECAUSE OBAMA SAID***8HE CAN GET HILLARY SUPPORTERS BUT HILLARY WILL NOT GET HIS SUPPORTERS****

SO HILLARY IS VERY NICE BUT WE ARE BITTER TYPICAL WHITE PEOPLE WHO WILL NOT VOTE FOR HIM

AND YOU KEEP ON POSTING SAME LINE EVERYDAY ,,,EVERYDAY ,,EVERYDAY ,,,

NO LUCK DUDE

I have a very good friend who went to school with Julie. I just got an email assuring me that just like lots of people give money to, say, Nader, Julie is definitely NOT voting for a Democrat. Sorry to burst your unity pony pinata.

Nice try, though.

YES ,,OBAMA NEVER SAID THAT

BUT HE ALSO DID NOT STOP HIS PEOPLE FROM SAYING THAT ,,HE DID NOT SAY ,,,LETS TALK ABOUT ISSUES ,,,NOT RACE ,,,BUT NO ,,HE DID NOT ,,HE ENJOYED THE BLACK VOTE

HILLARY RODHAM CLINTON !!!!!!!!!!!!

I AGREE

MAY BE ITS JEFF HIMSELF ,,,,,CHANGING NAMES AND MAKING IT SOUND LIKE ,,,CHANGE ,,HOPE ,,,,

I came to Kerry as the last man standing. But he wasn’t using surrogates and thugs to get there either.

“I’m sorry, but I don’t have to “fall in line” with party loyalty, since party leaders are not loyal to their own base.”

Right, just loyal to their African-American base, white intellectual base, young voting base. Sorry they haven’t been loyal to the white, lower-income, gun-owning, highly religious set that voted for GWB the last two elections.

Oh my gosh! Olberman asks tough questions so he’s labeled as dishonest? Did we learn nothing from the repukes these last 7 years? Oh, that’s right, we’re all for a compliant media that gives the right a pass while piling it on dems and giving us fluff stories about Paris Hilton or Britney.

Give me a break!

Quit tearing our party apart! Hillary cannot win. Period. It’s time to figure out what we’re going to do against the right wing attack machine this fall.

And I’m tired of all of these Hillary supporters whining about not voting for Obama if he gets the nomination. WTF is wrong with you? I support Obama (after Edwards dropped out) but would NEVER EVEN CONSIDER voting for McCain if Obama didn’t get the nod.

you’re tired of us. fine. we’re still not voting for obama.

Good for you. Hurray.

Thank God the polls close soon and the idiots that are here can crawl back to My Kos and HOPO and all of the other filth from whence they came and put their hands over their mouths with such HORROR that ANYONE is criticizing the obamasan.

Newsflash Johnny: Never voting for OBAMA means Never voting for Obama. Writing in Hillary is the same as voting for McCain. NEVER voting for Obama.

And then there is the little detail involving Obama’s campaign strategy memo that advanced the strategy of looking for some statement of Bill or Hillary that could be twisted into allegations of racism, and peel off African-American support, acknowledging that this would be the only way that Senator Obama could take the “AA” vote.

“Michelle Obama: “I’d have to think about it””

News Flash: Michelle Obama is not running for president.

“Lerry and Susan, Can you take Jeff out.”

Thanks, Grace. I’ll put it in a good word for you, too.

Sos Alert From Pa Campaign Headquarters

——————————————————————————–

THIS IS FREETHINKER’S HUSBAND.

THIS IS AN SOS ALERT FROM HILLARY’S CAMPAIGN HEADQUARTERS IN PHILADELPHIA. FREETHINKER IS IN PHILADELPHIA.

FEEDBACK IS: THE VOTE TURNOUT IS VERY LOW!!!
HILLARY WANTS EVERYONE TO MAKE PHONE CALLS TO PA NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

STRAIGHT FROM HILLARY:

PLEASE DROP EVERYTHING AND MAKE PHONE CALLS TO PA NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

FOR THE SCRIPT GO TO HILLARYCLINTON.COM

TELL PEOPLE TO GET OUT AND VOTE!!

DEVOTE ALL YOUR TIME TO THIS. PLEASE!!!!! DO ONLY THIS!!!
PLEASE CALL PA NON-STOP UNTIL THE POLLS CLOSE!!!!!!!
GO! GO! GO!

“I came to Kerry as the last man standing. But he wasn’t using surrogates and thugs to get there either.”

What is different about Kerry’s surrogates vs. Obama’s surrogates, or Clinton’s, for that matter?

GO TAKE A BREAK

GO DRINK SOME KOOL AID

OR GET SOME WHITE LOVE FROM MICHELLE OBAMA***GET SOME WHITES OVER HERE****IS THAT WHAT SHE SAYS,,,

Jeff:

McCain has a problem of his own in making correct perceptions and analysis of danger, thinking that walking through a marketplace in Iraq with a contingent of special forces, full body armor, Apache gunships criss-crossing the sky overhead, is like a walk in the park on a sunny afternoon. It would be very dangerous for McCain to think that he could effectively use the “Bosnia” issue, when he can’t even distinguish between the combatants in Iraq.

A whole world of differnce. His thugs weren’t all over the internet insulting women and calling them c*nts for starters.

Nope, Jeff stays Jeff.

THIS IS AN SOS ALERT FROM HILLARY’S CAMPAIGN HEADQUARTERS IN PHILADELPHIA. FREETHINKER IS IN PHILADELPHIA.

FEEDBACK IS: THE VOTE TURNOUT IS VERY LOW!!!
HILLARY WANTS EVERYONE TO MAKE PHONE CALLS TO PA NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

STRAIGHT FROM HILLARY:

PLEASE DROP EVERYTHING AND MAKE PHONE CALLS TO PA NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

FOR THE SCRIPT GO TO HILLARYCLINTON.COM

TELL PEOPLE TO GET OUT AND VOTE!!

DEVOTE ALL YOUR TIME TO THIS. PLEASE!!!!! DO ONLY THIS!!!
PLEASE CALL PA NON-STOP UNTIL THE POLLS CLOSE!!!!!!!
GO! GO! GO!

Jeff and his ilk will be gone when the polls close. He’s just trying to earn his obamaportion with his obamaspam feeding from the obamatrough … and now that the grain and oil supplies are toughening up, we should be more charitable.

The satisfaction will be that obamasan is going to be licking his wounds in Indiana and Hillary will be thanking her supporters in Pennsylvania.

That Obama. Such a guy.

“I have a very good friend who went to school with Julie. I just got an email assuring me that just like lots of people give money to, say, Nader, Julie is definitely NOT voting for a Democrat. Sorry to burst your unity pony pinata.”

Forgive me for not taking this statement as evidence of anything. However, Julie’s donations to and support of Obama, certainly are.

Yeah Oh Look. A new member. lol.

It’t the Change-y Hope-y thang

Because Barack Obama isn’t like that.

I’m with you … Jeff and Jennifer have never been seen together. And Jennifer has suddenly gone quite …. silent!

Are you working on a new post?

“It would be very dangerous for McCain to think that he could effectively use the “Bosnia” issue, when he can’t even distinguish between the combatants in Iraq.”

That’s wishful thinking. A decorated war hero can easily make hay of against a candidate who fabricated a story about being shot at it in a combat zone. I’m not saying it’s fair, or that the Shiite/Sunni issue isn’t strong against McCain. I’m simply disagreeing that it will at all be “dangerous for McCain to use the sniper story.

Hope™.

OOoooooooo I HAVE to use this.

So just imagine what he can do with a guy who associates with a group of people who brought terror right here to the streets of America?

Karl Rove thought that the fun was over! And then came Barack H. Obama — since you get irritated and pissy, I just used his middle initial. I don’t expect any thanks for my trouble

Julie just married into the Eisenhower name, but she was born and bred a Nixon (she really has her dad’s nose), and Nixon was no moderate Democrat.

It never happens. He has his surrogates do the Dirty for him.

Oh, come on, give me a break–I’m just Jeff.

Sorry, my bad, I was confusing Julie with Tricia.

I notice that it’s up for 28%. And you haven’t had Jeff tell you that you are not a Democrat yet.

You are just also going to have to appreciate that I will never vote for him–without daring to tell me I am not a Democrat.

That writein idea seems to be catching on, just in case.

I am not at liberty to share my friend’s email with you. And. He worked in the White House for Dick.

I am ALWAYS working on a new post. hee hee.

ARG has it has high as 32 percent. I don’t honestly think he’s electable.

Hahahahah. Beautiful.

Just yankin’ your chain, Jeff.

Well, we have missed your spot on comments these past couple of hours, so I was hoping that there is something in the offing!

Jack is afraid his pee pee will fall of if a woman becomes president and shows him up for the shriviled old mediocre man with gas that he is.

double pay checks would be nice though, eh?

Thanks for that post Jeff! I will add it to the collection. You guys are so helpful!

Johnny- I think you’re a bit confused on what’s tearing the party apart. No Hillary supporter has taken any action to tear it apart. However, of course there is an emotional reaction to being more or less kicked out of the party. I for one take extreme offense to being titled a racist for my support for Hillary. The racism I saw as a child is what led me to my breakaway from my family’s Republican heritage, and I also know a fraud when I see it. How many months have we endured the name calling, race baiting, dirty politics of the Obama campaign and then being told if we don’t fall in line, find another party. If Obama is the nominee, he, you and others like you will be grossly sorry for the treatment of Clinton and her voters. This doesn’t even touch the fact of the unease of many Democrats of his qualifications and electability (or lack thereof).

For an example of what I describe, which ain’t hard to find, see Jeff’s post above.

Hate to see you go.

“I notice that it’s up for 28%. And you haven’t had Jeff tell you that you are not a Democrat yet.”

It’s pretty easy to tell. A Democrat actually votes for Democrats.

Well put. We will let them know in the place where it counts.

WOW … I am sure that the effete, selective pandering will work out really really well in November. Your candidate Coward Dean knows from painful first hand experience what a losing proposition that is … no wonder you loved Coward … you have so much in common with him … including no common touch.

“Tear it apart” means to them that we didn’t just hand the nomination to the Baby Jesus as an entitlement.

Which is why we’re NOT voting for Obama. See how that works?

Newsflash, neither is Bill, but he’d sure be there with bells on.

A few months back, I would have easily said yes. Now I can say, only because I distrust John McCain even more, and I’ll have to hold my nose while doing it.

I believe he’ll sell out Dems on reproductive choice and gay rights, and can’t be relied on to pick judges who will support those ideas, given what a swell, smart guy he thought Roberts was. I doubt he knows more about the economy than W – though like W he knows how to advance his own interest, in W’s case thru Poppy’s friends, in Obama’s his Chicago cronies.

So it comes down to figuring he’s less likely than crazy John McCain to charge us into still more war. Pretty sad when that’s what it comes down to.

Bill Clinon has been dissed continually by Obama surrogates,bloggers,& campaigners to a point where it is obvious they wish to undermine his legacy as it plays into their scheme of capturing super delegates and insuring the party’s total takeover by Deaniacs and leftist netroot extremists.

The party is being sold to black voters pure and simple, and in order to forget what Clinton has accomplished with regard to black advancement and support on all levels, the best way Obama can nullify Clinton is to: call him a racist. to insist that he was not a good president and accomplished little.

These people are ruthless, they are creeps, and they will ruin the party.

Trashing the Clinton’s seems to be the way Obama and Axelrod have chosen as his path to the presidency as it allows them to minimize what Clinton has and does that is positive.

In demonizing Bill they hope to remove any doubts and second thoughts Clinton supporters will have going into the general.

What a bunch of losers. I have heard black surrogates on TV trashing Clinton as an irrelevant and racist person, and an unimportant president.

Their hatred is palpable. And this kind of desperate and irresponsible talk pulls racism up a notch every time one of these [usually black] surrogates gets on TV.

This is taking black guilt about their own white racist behavior into the conversation, as they surely have shown that they hate “typical” whites.

Bill Clinton will remain an important leader and will transcend this kind
of racist bigotry and trashtalk.It will be seen as the opportunistic cannabilism Obama needs in order to appear the “true transformer” of the Democratic Party.

No one admires this kind of behavior.

“Which is why we’re NOT voting for Obama. See how that works?”

Right–you’re Republicans, who will be voting for McCain.

“So just imagine what he can do with a guy who associates with a group of people who brought terror right here to the streets of America?”

Right, and Bill Clinton pardoned two of those people. GOP wouldn’t dare touch that.

“You are just also going to have to appreciate that I will never vote for him–without daring to tell me I am not a Democrat.”

Just as you do, I will “dare” to conjecture whatever makes sense to me. A person who refuses to vote for the most progressive Democratic candidate in a generation isn’t, to my mind, a Democrat. I’m speaking of course of how people choose to vote in the general election.

I’m not sure why Uppity likes you.

I find your intentional stupidity annoying.

President Clinton commuted the sentences of two people who had served their time — almost all of it. Senator Clinton was not part of the decision making process.

If you can find any links or information that they have socialized together or that the Weather Underground has made a donation to her campaign, please enlighten me.

Bill Ayers’ actions resulted in the deaths of three people. He and his wife would have been tried for their crimes if the FBI hadn’t screwed up.

Bill Ayers is totally unrepentent. Actually, he regrets not having done MORE, unlike those whose sentences were commuted.

These individuals’ sentences were commuted.

“I am not at liberty to share my friend’s email with you. And. He worked in the White House for Dick.”

Of course. And people are free to say whatever they like on the internet. That’s the beauty of it, isn’t it?

No, “Jeff” only gets paid ($3) by the hour.

Just telling the truth. Sorry.

Aw, poor “Jeff,” trying to salvage the votes if his wittle Obambi is the nominee.

“you have so much in common with him … including no common touch.”

I don’t profess to, either. I’m not a politician.

However, I am from Kentucky, for what it’s worth, and know a bit about white, lower-income, socially conservative folks. And I know they’ve been voting Republican for a long, long time now. I like to call them my relatives.

“double pay checks would be nice though, eh?”

Getting paid to do this would be quite a boon. Getting paid double to do this? Damn.

I always here about “paid” posters. I can’t imagine someone could take a trip around the world doing that though. I mean how do they get paid? By the word? By the insult? Is there like a rating system? What?

make that “hear” instead of “here”. I want my pay!

Heh Heh.

I’m telling you it’s McGovern all over again.

Sorry Jeff. I can’t support Obama. He is the worst thing to happen to this country after GW.

Thank you Uppity.

I’m afraid that Obama supporters think no body cares whether or not women are mistreated so long as their man is elected.

Try as you may though, they don’t get it.

I keep saying that I will personally pay them to bring back Aaron Brown and his clickety mouth.

Anything but that disgusting bag of human flesh called Cafferty. Sheesh he is hard to look at, hard to listen to and full of crap.

In what sense is Obama progressive, or more progressive than Clinton? I’ve not seen one policy proposal that is not a warmed over Edwards or Clinton one–sometimes in weakened form.

Gosh that was hard to sit through. I can’t stand to listen to Keith string two sentences together without losing my sexual appetite for a week. The Gringo has blocked MSNBC until Keith is gone.

I spoke to an elderly woman and her son at the grocery store this afternoon. They expressed the same dismay about Obama that we have. They actually, interestinly, could not bring themselves to even say Barry’s name!

I shared my feelings that as a veteran, and my plan to vote for McCain if need be as I respect and trust in a decorated war hero than Mr. Middle Finger. Does Obama realize that by flipping Hillary he essentially flipped all of her supports off as well? And he expects our support in November? I don’t think so.

Thank you so much. Well put. I will not vote for a left wing version of Bush.

I think both McCain and Obama have the impimatur of the monied elite and the right wing. That is why Julie might be behind Obama. That way there are two right wing horses in the race. Tails I win, heads you lose. Obama ain’t no liberal.

I am not saying who I will vote for in the General Election. As a normally Straight ticket democratic voter, In my State of Florida, I have now re-registered as a non-affiliated voter. I will need the DNC to count my vote from the primary in order to come back home. The people that will now be effected the most will be the “down-ticket” candidates as I will consider not voting at all if Hillary Clinton is not the nominee. Barack Obama has not earned the respect of the voters. He’s become a dishonest, regular politcian in the worst way. The campaign has played people like a fiddle. I still don’t know what he organized in Chicago. But I keep reading about the inner city poverty, the homeless, the slums, the gun violence and child deaths from gunshots going to school. Seems like he didn’t do too much for his constituents, but did a hell of alot for himself and his family. I want a President that will work for the little guy. Yes, the less educated that does the grunt work, the women trying to feed their family and taking second jobs to make ends meet. The people trying to rise above their circumstances. Bill Clinton did that. History has been re-written by the Republicans to hurt the Democrats and Clinton, Its sad that Obama and his supporters have repeated and used the same shit. They vote against their own interests and are being led by the corporate media and the comfortable people with plenty of money and students, whose idealism is understandable, but have become drunk on their percieved new power to influence through the internet. They’re dug in. Just like in College, its become the big Friday night game, but in this big game, the so-called nerds are getting to carry the ball and they love it.

No Jeff

We cannot unite for several reasons.

First and most important to me is Character. Without that a discussion of POLICY is a moot point because it has no firm foundation or base.

Aristotle (384–322 BC) believed that character helped explain a person’s past actions and could also predict future behaviour. Character helps identify who someone really is on the inside. Character is the yardstick by which people can identify whether someone is trustworthy or just a Charlatan.

The attributes of Character, in their order of ranking, are: integrity, cooperativeness, fairness, self-discipline, honesty, spiritual respect, respectfulness, employee loyalty, humour, passion, competency, organisation loyalty, compassion, courage, selflessness, wisdom, and humility.

In these attributes Obama is sorely lacking.

He is first and foremost a serial and pathologigical liar. Here is a short list of some of his lies:

Whoops here is the list:

http://www.stop-obama.org/?page_id=24

How can you trust or rely on anyone who lies constantly, does not accept responsibility for his past actions or associations.

Further as far a spolicy goes – his web changes constantly as he copies from either Hillary or John Edwards.

Obama is the worst Charlatan since Huey Long – all blah blah blah – no substance or deeds to back him up.

Then there is his blatant racism and mysogyny – and the list just goes on, and on, and on.

Jeff tells us “A Democrat votes for a Democrat.”

He’s too cowardly to say that to any Obama supporters who refuse to vote for Clinton under any circumstances.

Nor does he have the courage to admit that any candidate who disses Clinton but praises Reagan and Bush I is probably not a true Democrat anyway.

Jeez, the Obamanauts are as simple-minded as the Bush wingnuts.

Bravo and well said, norrismorris!

REAL Democrats understand what Obama has done, and why he did it, and why he was wrong to do so.

Thank you.

No, they don’t.

And compare these statistics: Democratic women: 55% of the party.
AA : 20% of the party.

I think they were stupid to ignore that.

We are not whiney we are determined – we will not be bullied, maligned nor repeatedly lied to, by you, who think of yourselves as “Intelligensia”, but are too damn lazy to do any vetting of your precious Bama.

We here know so much about him, I personally would raise holy hell with the Town Hall, if he, or anyone like him, became my rubbish man. He is a liar, sneak, untrustworthy, person, who is knee deep in fraud, money laundering, and promises to those who caused this financial crises.

Obama, has no character, and is morally and ethcally bankrupt. Those are not whines – Those are FACTS!

And Johnny you tell your fellow Bot who calls himself “Jeff”, we are not lower class, underpaid working for minimum wage white people. I have a PhD and you?

Yes, I will.

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