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Will the Real Uniter Please Stand Up?

From the beginning of this campaign, Senator Obama, his campaign, and his supporters have been pushing the idea that he has the ability to unite the country and work with Republicans:

“I think it is fair to say that I believe I can bring the country together more effectively than she can,” Obama said. “I will add, by the way, that is not entirely a problem of her making. Some of those battles in the ’90s that she went through were the result of some pretty unfair attacks on the Clintons. But that history exists, and so, yes, I believe I can bring the country together in a way she cannot do. If I didn’t believe that, I wouldn’t be running.”

Note the qualification that it “is not entirely a problem of her making.”

Now I concede that polling data indicates that Obama does better among registered Republicans. An analysis of polling data by Politico last month indicates that against John McCain, Senator Obama is likely to carry more votes from Republicans than would Senator Clinton (10% to 8%). [It also noted that John McCain picked up more Democrats against Senator Obama (17%) than Senator Clinton (14%).]

Despite the polling data which shows that Obama does better among disaffected Republicans, which candidate actually has a track of reaching out to and those across the aisle? Let’s compare Senators Obama and Clinton. After Senator Obama took a beating in last Wednesday’s debate, he responded by blaming the moderators for picking on him and implied that he would not participate in any further debates. When a voter asked him about future debates, he responded

“We’re trying to figure out what our schedule looks like,” he said. “But I’ll be honest with you. We’ve now had 21, and look, in the previous three, you know, we did very well and so it’s not as if we don’t know how to do these things. I could deliver Senator Clinton’s lines. I’m sure she could deliver mine.”

With such lackluster support from Senator Obama, it should be no wonder that the next debate, schedule for April 27 in North Carolina was cancelled yesterday:

Mr. Obama showed interest in an April 19 debate in North Carolina, which would have presented viewers with a second debate before the Pennsylvania primary. Mrs. Clinton’s campaign expressed concern that April 19 was the first day of Passover, and the organizers went back to the drawing board to propose alternative dates. Mrs. Clinton’s campaign subsequently agreed to the April 27 date, but Mr. Obama’s did not.

This is not consistent with what Senator Obama said at the Las Vegas debate in November, when he suggested that the American people were looking for “straight answers to tough questions.” If he is unwilling to face tough questions in debates, how can Americans get their answers. Senator Obama delivered the aforementioned line in a debate when he accused Senator Clinton of refusing to provide these “straight answers,” but it appears that he is the one who is trying to avoid “tough questions.”

Hillary Clinton, on the other hand, has not been dodging anything. In fact, she has reached out to some of her biggest critics recently. A few weeks ago, she met with the editorial board of the Pittsburgh Tribune-Review, a newspaper owned by Richard Mellon Scaife. If you followed politics in the 90′s, that name should ring a bell. Scaife is the guy who financed and gave rise to the “vast right-wing conspiracy:”

In the resulting book, “A Washington Tragedy: How the Death of Vincent Foster Ignited a Political Firestorm,” Moldea confirms — again — that Foster’s death was indeed a suicide and that a cabal of right-wing groups — financed by banking heir Richard Mellon Scaife — is responsible for keeping the case alive for years in an effort to tarnish the Clinton White House. Moldea also blasts the media — particularly the Wall Street Journal op-ed page and reporter Christopher Ruddy — for stoking the conspiracy fires with specious facts and inflammatory rhetoric.

This meeting was criticized by Slate and by Keith Olbermann, another critic of Senator Clinton who had the opportunity to grill her on his show last night, only a month after accusing her campaign of playing racial politics. I find it very interesting that anybody would criticize Hillary for meeting with Scaife and the editorial board of his newspaper. As Hillary explained on Keith Olbermann, leaders have to reach out to their opponents:

But I do believe in redemption, Keith. I believe in deathbed conversions and I think it’s possible for anyone to see the error of their ways. So I’m bringing people together as we speak. Anyone who doubts my ability to bridge the most incredible chasms can point to those recent remarks.

Indeed, Senator Clinton, and they can also point to your willingness to be interviewed by a man who only one month ago accused you of running a campaign rampant with covert racism.

Over the weekend, the Herald-Tribune, noting that Senator Obama, the candidate who says he can bring Republicans and Democrats together, yet refuses to meet with the editorial board, endorsed Senator Clinton:

More important, she is extremely knowledgeable on crucial foreign issues. Meeting with Trib editors last month, she ticked off an impressive list of international challenges and the solutions. (In Wednesday’s Philadelphia debate, Obama praised George H.W. Bush’s foreign policy — apparently not realizing that one of its architects was then-Defense Secretary Dick Cheney, a man he regularly excoriates.)

As we noted at the time of that meeting, Clinton’s decision to sit down with the Trib was courageous, given our longstanding criticism of her. That is no small matter: Political courage is essential in a president. Clinton has demonstrated it; Obama has not.

Hillary Clinton is willing to debate. She agreed to an interview with Keith Olbermann, who has hardly been the impartial bystander he has claimed to be. And she has also shown a willingness to make peace and work with some of her toughest critics and former advesaries. For example, Hillary made her peace with Sen. Lindsey Graham, the conservative South Carolina senator and a leader in her husband’s impeachment, working together to expand health care benefits for our troops in the National Guard. In an article in Time two years ago, Sen. Graham said of Hillary:

In the Senate, a small body of big egos, Senator Clinton, 58, is sought out by her colleagues to form legislative partnerships. Her high-profile status, combined with a reputation as a smart, prepared, serious Senator, creates real influence. In a short time, this blue-state Senator with a blue-state perspective has managed to build unusual political alliances on a variety of issues with Republicans Bill Frist, Sam Brownback, Elizabeth Dole, Rick Santorum and other conservatives.

As a red-state conservative, I have found common ground with her on improving health-care benefits for members of the National Guard and Reserve. We also created a bipartisan Manufacturing Caucus to help promote and address the problems facing America’s manufacturers.

Senator Clinton would be a formidable opponent for Republicans in November 2008 as the nation remains closely divided. Some say she cannot be elected President. I say those who underestimate Hillary Clinton do so at their own peril.

From Senator Obama? We have talk of hope and promises of change. But no more debates. And still no appearances on Fox News Sunday, which has hosted Hillary Clinton on numerous occasions. And still no “straight answers to tough questions.”

What do we value? Words or action?

I have to agree with the Tribune-Review on this one:

In policy terms, relatively little may separate these two. Obama ranks as one of the most liberal U.S. senators, but Clinton is no conservative. Determining how they differ is difficult, though, because Obama is long on soaring rhetoric yet painfully short on record.

He has spent just three years in the U.S. Senate. Before that, he spent just eight years as one of 177 state legislators in Illinois. Before that, he was a university lecturer, a community organizer, a civil-rights lawyer.

Quite simply, this is no portfolio for a president, the world’s most powerful leader. The presidency is no place for on-the-job training in the best of times — and certainly not when the nation is at war, the economy is struggling, and federal governance in general is adrift.

In sharp contrast, Clinton is far more experienced in government — as an engaged first lady to a governor and a president, as a second-term senator in her own right. She has a real voting record on key issues. Agree with her or not, you at least know where she stands instead of being forced to wonder.

  • Jeff

    He has spent just three years in the U.S. Senate.

    And she’s spent just seven. I fail to see how that magically translates into all the experience one needs to be president, but Obama’s “three years in the U.S. Senate,” “eight years as one of 177 state legislators in Illinois”, and previous years as “a university lecturer, a community organizer, a civil-rights lawyer” do not.

    Oh, right, she was married to a president, too.

    • beebop

      He didn’t heat the slums. I guess that’s an achievement. He sold a lot of books. Big Whoop.

      • http://hyper-eductated-uppity-woman.blogspot.com Uppity

        Considering her remarkable grasp of all the issues which are important to this country, particularly in comparison to Mr. Hope-y Change-y, I think her ability and knowledge speaks for itself. And I know you do too. You have some grey matter.

      • sandyR

        I’m thinking he had a ghost writer, anyway.
        Something doesn’t add up. Either his speeches are written for him (probably) or his book was written for him (probably). All in all, I’m going to try and find out if he ever wrote a
        law review article. Something tells me “no, he didn’t.” The guy is fake from the bottom of his Johnny Cash suit to the top. Why doesn’t he just put on the bow tie so we know he isn’t trying to be Johnny Cash. Why can’t he take a stand on anything? Even his fashion is wanna-be.

        • CAE

          Someone should tell Obama that the presidency doesn’t come with a script and you get asked a lot of questions all the time.

        • laurie

          Let’s be fair — Obama and ALL political candidates have speechwriters. Obama is purported to have written his recent speech on race. [‘I have no doubts about his rhetorical and literary abilities. But a good writer doesn’t make a good president.

          Incidentally, Ted Sorenson is on Obama’s speechwriting team. For those of you who don’t remember, Sorenson was responsible for many of JFK’s most memorable speeches.

          http://www.kutv.com/content/news/topnews/story.aspx?content_id=916265d9-e2f0-485e-914f-80d85ff8139d

          • Nellie

            Laurie,

            What you do not seem to know is that Obama’s March 18th speech, is copied from Louis Farrakhan speech at the 1995 Million Man March.

        • pm317

          my information is that he did not write a single editorial as the law review editor. What does it say about the writer in him? Non-existent?

    • beebop

      He should rename the next release of that one book “my dream father.” The book is as much about fantasy as it is about reality.

      • Jeff

        “He should rename the next release of that one book “my dream father.” The book is as much about fantasy as it is about reality.”

        99% of the posters here brag about not having even read it. Are you one of them?

        • Nicole

          Jeff, what is it about the post, above, that you don’t get? Seriously, are all Obamaphiles so myopic in their extreme bias they won’t allow even just a little of the facts to trickle in? What’s wrong with you people…

        • stodghie

          jeff, i read it and i find all the misleading parts of it insulting. how about your candidate do a rewrite and tell the truth. you make such weak arguments with holes so big i could drive a mack truck through.

          • workingclass artist

            I read it in a few hours at a local book store and I’m DYSLEXIC…
            It was mediocre and (I’m being kind here) drivel….Overated but then OPRAH liked it….Nuff said….

            • beebop

              She like a million little pieces as well … more hokey okey dokey “memoir”

              • workingclass artist

                Oprah sucks the air out of my living room every time she is on…..Gave up on her a while ago…Just aint’ enough room in the world for anyone else but her anymore….

        • Karen

          This poster read it. First, Obama’s writing style makes Dreams a frustratingly slow read, which may explain why it was removed from publication in 1995, and why so few of the many who purchased it after its reissue following his famous keynote address at the 2004 Democratic convention appear to have not read much of it.

          Second, the plot isn’t that interesting: his first three decades are too lacking in incident to make a page-turning story. Obama has led a fairly pleasant existence, with most of its suffering and conflict taking place within his own head as he tries to turn himself into an authentic angry black man.

          Third, His claim that is was a true story were also proven false when the Chicago newspapers began digging into the facts. He then changed his reference to it from a factual story into a composite of many stories.

          • pm317

            Seems like his whole life is a farce and a fantasy at best. They go after Clinton for Bosnia — that is all they got. What a joke!

        • http://hyper-eductated-uppity-woman.blogspot.com Uppity

          I would read it if he releases it again under Fictional Novels. Do you have any idea how much of his bull in those two books has been handily debunked? The Chicago Tribune did those books in long ago. But then they know him better than we do.

        • Mary

          I’ve read it, Jeff.

          Beepop is correct.

          Now, get off your high horse.

        • http://takeaction.wordpress.com/ A.Citizen

          I’ve read it and I was appalled by the utter ignorance of American political history it demonstrated. I’ve been politically active since 1965 and Barry the Ignorant got every single aspect of the history of the late 60s and 70s wrong.

          Wrong on the facts as well as wrong on the interpretation of the big events. It read like it was written by teenage Libertarian staying up all night to finish a paper for his community college American political history class.

          Utterly clueless and tremendously insulting to those how helped erect the social structure Barry stands on so he can lecture down to us.

          Thus I found my nickname for him: Barry the Ignorant.

          Fits him like his $10,000 suits.

          Perfectly.

          • laurie

            I was struck by the sophomoric historical analysis as well. But mostly, I just thought it was a rather Freudian study of a man struggling to find his niche. I also wondered at the time how much James Frey-ism was going on with the treatment of the people from Obama’s past. Turns out it was similar with all the composite “characters.”

            I really wanted to be impressed with Obama after the speech at the 04 convention. I really wanted him to be the real deal. But on every level I have found him to be more like an Elvis impersonator than the real Elvis. In my opinion, he’s not on the same level as past inspirational leaders like Bobby Kennedy or MLK. He’s the Jayne Mansfeild to their Marilyn. What he has is a great branding machine behind him. I’ve written advertising for over 20 years and the marketing of this candidate has been tremendous — from the rather Pepsi-looking logo to the HOPE posters reminiscent of Soviet propaganda or something out of THey Live. He’s a good product — and been sold to the youth like an I-phone.

      • sandyR

        By the way, I know that “Dreams of My Father”
        title is a rip off of somebody else’s work… But I can’t think of who it is. I mean just the title. I’m thinking of Delmore Schwartz’s “In Dreams Begin Remembrances,” but I’d swear there’s a title closer than that. Maybe it goes back to Shakespeare…

        • Jeff

          “By the way, I know that “Dreams of My Father”
          title is a rip off of somebody else’s work… “

          There are no rip-offs of mere titles.

          • beebop

            Are you in the publishing business, Jeff? Can you point us to the authority for your statement? Cause see, I am … And one of the very FIRST things that a publishing house does is check title ….

            “Everyone is entitled to their own opinions, but they are not entitled to their own facts.”
            Senator Daniel Patrick Moynihan

    • workingclass artist

      Well I think someone posted that the Ill. state senate meet for 55 days a year…you do the math….One year in the US senate does not make someone magically aquire presidential eperience….He can’t even run a senate committee on foriegn affairs….Too busy runnin for POTUS…Preach it to another choir…..BABY-O is a sham….

    • simon, too

      You really cannot understand how you hurt Obama’s campaign, how others use you, as a troll, against him.

      Wow.

      • Jeff

        “You really cannot understand how you hurt Obama’s campaign, how others use you, as a troll, against him.

        Wow.”

        Popping the monolithic bubble of No Quarter’s discourse can’t be a bad thing for your or my candidate. The echo chamber however, is for both.

        • stodghie

          the echo chamber is in your head, jeff.

          • workingclass artist

            Jeff….is a PETULANT PILLOW BITER……

        • kenoshaMarge

          Popping the monolithic bubble? Good grief you are delusional if you think that anything you say or post is anything except a joke to the people that come to this blog because they like it and respect it and think Senator Hillary Clinton would be the best candidate for President.

          You are just another sad little attention troll.

    • Mel

      Well let’s see, Illinois State Senate works manditory 55 days a year, so 8 years, Obama worked barely a year, give him a year and a half of actual working in the State Senate. 3 years in Washington, spent 1 year selling his book and over a year running for POTUS as evident of his never holding a hearing on the commitee he chairs!

      Clinton 6 years in the Senate before running for POTUS! During the year running, Clinton appears at her Commitee hearings!

      Obama 2.5 years of work vs Clinton’s 6

      Everyone knows Clinton’s stances, Barry, nothing!

      Barry as community organizer taking claim in his book or riding slums of asphestos, when it was others who did it, but Barry takes claim for it in his books of lies! Barry sure takes claim for a lot of things, none of which he actually did! Hmmmm but counts as experience doesn’t it!

      • Psychodrew

        But he’s the Messiah! Don’t you get it!? When Obama is elected, the clouds will part, a bright light will shine down from the sky, celestial choirs will sing, and we’ll all hold hands and sing “We Are the World!”

        • workingclass artist

          Ehemmmm……Will this video appear on the OPRAHSPHERE…..LOL

          • http://hyper-eductated-uppity-woman.blogspot.com Uppity

            Oprah got really quiet since her rating drops showed up on the radar screen. I also suspect she is more than a little embarrased over Wright. She left that church herself.

            • workingclass artist

              Yeah….But after how many years…Wright is a black separatist…

        • Mel

          Oh right forgot, thanks for the reality check!

          And as the skies part, Obama will be instilling Bill Ayers as Sec of Eductaion, nominating Bernadette Dohrn as Supreme Court Justice or Sec of Justice and all his other sorted fiends like Jesse Jackson Jr, Uncle Wright, Khamali and the rest into key positions in government!

          Won’t this be fun as will he remove troops from Iraq as he can use the perils of war as a reason to suspend the constitution to remain in power!

          But he will unite, like Lenon and Marx and all those folks he wants to sit down with and join together like Castro and the rest!

          But Obama gives a great speech and everything he will do will be everyone elses fault, let’s not forget that!

          • Strawberrybitch

            Wait…you are talking about Obama, right? ‘Cause for a second there, I had some serious Bush flashbacks…ooooooooooo.

      • workingclass artist

        All I can say is BABY-O can organize this cracker’s foot right up his….
        This guy is wreckin my party with his UNITY PIPE shit….

    • stodghie

      (snark)let the drums roll, cymbals clash! jeff has spoken! another obama supporter thinks that the annointed is superior, superior i tell you to anything or anyone. got that, unwashed hillary supporters.

      what is FAILS to mention is nobama’s do nothing for the groups he supposed worked with in chicago. he present votes and his taking credit for others work. now i find he never he wrote for his supposed big job at harvard law. he has voted for iraq monies and says he doesn’t know how he would have voted. he has run a dog whisle race baiting campaign but that is hillary’s fault. his very questionable decisons and associations i see are ignored also. please jeff, don’t collect, do not pass go and go straight to jail.

      • Jeff

        “jeff has spoken! another obama supporter thinks that the annointed is superior, superior i tell you to anything or anyone. got that, unwashed hillary supporters.”

        And another straw man is propped up. I never said Obama or anyone else was “superior to anything or anyone”. No one has except Hillary supporters. No Obama supporters have called him “the Messiah” either. Only Hillary supporters engage in this straw man tactic.

        • stodghie

          i am not a “strawman” jeff. i am the average voter and i don’t like your candidate. in fact i am your worst nightmare. i am an independent, former republican, business owner. i am well educated, latte drinker, and earn a good living. and i can’t stand your candidate.

          i come from a working class background. i belong to a union and know what side my bread is buttered.i know about the past. do you? i doubt it.

          • Jeff

            “i am not a “strawman” jeff.”

            Oh, do I really have to explain to you that I did not call you a straw man? A straw man means a fake opposing argument. One side accuses another of advocating a weaker position than they actually do. The weaker position is the “straw man”. Saying Obama supporters think he’s the messiah is “propping up a straw man”, one that is easily attacked and torn down. It’s harder to attack the real reasons Obama has so many supporters, so instead you create the straw man that the movement Obama has helped create is really just a cult.

            No one called you a straw man, buddy.

            ” i am well educated,”

            Well, maybe now you are.

            i am an independent, former republican, business owner.

            i belong to a union

            You’re a business owner, and you belong to a union? That’s a rare mix.

            • workingclass artist

              Jeff….( sigh ) many independent business owners can also belong to unions…Example…A writers union…A craft guild…The AMA which is basically a union….Put down the pipe Jeff….You’re in over your head…..

              • Jeff

                “Jeff….( sigh ) many independent business owners can also belong to unions…Example…A writers union…A craft guild…The AMA which is basically a union….Put down the pipe Jeff….You’re in over your head…..”

                I didn’t say they didn’t exist. I said it was a “rare mix”–which it is.

        • http://hyper-eductated-uppity-woman.blogspot.com Uppity

          …just stopping by for your daily smacking upside your head, Jeffy.

    • Psychodrew

      He was a state senator in a safely liberal seat. When he ran for office in 1996, he opposed all restrictions on abortion and supported a ban on handguns. And then he claimed that he never filled out the questionnaire with that information.

      And he voted present like 10 million times and said that it was a legislative trick. Really! What does that experience mean if he backtracks on everything he stood for??????

  • workingclass artist

    Good Post….Obama is headed for POLITICAL OBLIVION either way this goes.
    If the party grownups seize control Clinton will be the nominee and will win the WH in Nov…..I feel confident in imagining her across the table from any world leader….

  • http://thehorizontalworld.blogspot.com/ Mary Jo Kopechne

    You are so right.
    I was astounded when I saw her good-natured self on Olbermann. He is such an incompetent sexist jerk and she was gracious and informative, as usual. Obama never informs, he only performs in front of his adoring acolytes–a scary requirement for a presidential candidate.

    • Psychodrew

      I just find it amazing that Obama calls himself a uniter but has no legislative record to back it up. Meanwhile, Hillary Clinton bravely walks into the lion’s den to be questioned by her toughest critics. She was grilled by the man who accused her of killing Vince Foster. He called her a murderer. She worked on legislation with Senators who participated in a gross perversion of the Constitution and humiliated her.

      And Obama won’t even talk to Fox News????

      I don’t get how he is the big uniter.

      • http://thehorizontalworld.blogspot.com/ Mary Jo Kopechne

        Hillary’s discipline astounds me. She has EXACTLY the right qualities for president. She never seems to take personally the phalanx of attacks against her. She remains composed and, well, PRESIDENTIAL!

        Obama whines, pouts and hides. And he gets his little ankle biters to do his dirty work, like poor little Jeff here, who is clearly an uninformed sheep, someone strung out on the kool aid. and you know, the kool aid seems to be running out. all the flavors of Hope and Change are gone!!

        Hillary unites by being herself. She’s the real deal.

        I only hope the Super Delegates are paying close attention and are not on Obama’s payroll of dirty money.

        • workingclass artist

          Agree….Hillary Clinton displays TYPICAL ADULT BEHAVIOR….She is unflappable….

          • stodghie

            exactly what we need at 3:00 am with a crisis i’d say. and it doesn’t hurt that the one lying beside her has been there and done that.

            • workingclass artist

              Agree……It’s a win win and I don’t give a shit if he keeps his zipper closed or not…Never did….This is shit is serious Globally Speaking of course…Horde your rice…Know what I mean…

              • stodghie

                the chickens are coming home to roost and i am not quoting rev wrong.

                • workingclass artist

                  Corinthians….When I became a man I put away childish thngs….Jeff you need to put some serious and sober thought into yo mind…..Put down the pipe…Come up for air…

              • Jeff

                “It’s a win win and I don’t give a shit if he keeps his zipper closed or not…”

                You should. He blew all his remaining presidential political capital with that affair. It drained all the energy out of the remainder of his presidency.

                • Thutmosis

                  Jeff:

                  The thread is on Obama and Hillary. No need to bring Bill. However, Bill still has political capital.

                  Personally, I would rather go see Bill, standing on the back of a pick up, talking to small crowds in rural towns.

                  It is preferable to being one of the thousands that go to pay their respects to Obama, the elitist that claims to be a uniter.

    • Leisa

      Here are a few articles that seemed to escape the uniter criticism radar. Add these to the list of evidence against his rhetoric.

      http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/02/29/AR2008022902784_pf.html

      http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/03/30/AR2008033002401_pf.html

  • alibe

    Obama is a uniter like Bush. Barack will unite everyone against himself. Obama, look at what he does, not at what he says. He ain’t no uniter. Look at the Dems…never as divided as now, except maybe 1968. Even now it is more volitile.

    • workingclass artist

      BABY-O has united a phalanx of pouting PILLOW BITERS….And they can smoke that US GOVT. ISSUE CRACK FORM THE UNITY PIPE all the way over the cliff……Please take Dean the Putz and Donnidiot BraZeal with you….

    • Psychodrew

      Remember back when they said that Hillary Clinton was too divisive?

      For me, it’s all about the track record. Hers is strong and his is non-existent.

      • Mel

        He has a track record, his books, the ones he claims to have a father who was part of the kennedy Airlift and he is a product of Selma! Funny how a guy writes about his own life and lies about it, what is wrong with this picture?

        • workingclass artist

          I think his SAVANT capacity to absorb foriegn policy at the age of 6 in Indonesia certainly inspires confidence…No ?

          • kenoshaMarge

            Only if he plays a musical instrument too.

        • stodghie

          what is wrong? he takes a lot of liberties with the truth!

        • Mel

          Well true his foreign experience is life long, and his liberal views of the truth are far reaching, but let’s not forget he does have a good woman to keep him straight now, a proud woman of the country she even said so!

          • workingclass artist

            Ehemmm…..MICHELLE PAY YOUR PROPERTY TAXES…..LOL. nuff said

    • http://hyper-eductated-uppity-woman.blogspot.com Uppity

      Yeah look now united we are. I mean entire blocks of voters are insulted. That will change though. As soon as Haley’s Comet rolls around again.

  • LikeH2O

    Great writing PsychoDrew – We have already experienced what one individual who claimed to be a “Uniter, not a Divider” accomplished – dividing a nation already divided even more severely and creating an even deeper divide.
    Who among us believes Senator Obama has the first clue as to how to unite people. I can give examples of divisive comments he has made – “Hillary you’re like-able enough”, “clinging to their guns or religion”, “you’re being bamboozled”, and on and on… He most certainly has not demonstrated an ability to unite people, either as a Senator or as a campaigner. When any record of his years in the Illinois Senate have been scrubbed, one can only speculate about those years. There is not much to back up his statements about reaching across party lines and working in a non-partisan way to unite the country. In fact, his one-page resume leaves doubt about more than that…

    • Psychodrew

      He’s uniting the white, blue-collar workers that used to be the Democratic base. Where are these people going to go if he’s the nominee?

      • LikeH2O

        Excellent point PsychoDrew.

      • workingclass artist

        Ehemmmm…….To the local pub….

        • http://intentionally-blank.blogspot.com/ PMS

          Where are these people going to go if he’s the nominee?

          Me? I’ll go to church first, and then stop by the pistol range on the way home after Sunday Brunch.

          • workingclass artist

            ROFL…..Be sure to cling to that gun o yours and be on the look out……Don’t forget to horde Rice….

      • Dawnelle

        Thanks for that!!! I have fond memories of my LIFE in Florida! THAT clip was worth sending around!!

  • merl

    I don’t want a President who can work with Republicans. Fuck Repubs.

    • simon, too

      http://www.suntimes.com/news/metro/rezko/910971,rezko042308.article

      OT, but pertinent, Rove tried to have Fitzgerald fired.

      I wonder why, and what does this have to do with Obama?

      And I wonder how the republicans will react to this, now, given their own are being exposed…

      Alinksying themselves, no doubt.

      LOL…

      And real republicans, dealing in good faith, should be respected, as should their views.

      It’s the corrupt ones, ya know, the Roves and the Delays and the Cheneys who should be put in prison, with their democratic counterparts.

      • Strawberrybitch

        I just read that too Simon, and the worst part is, read the comments by Obamatrons, they are absolutly unable to make the small set of leaps between Rezco, Rove and Obama. They are actually terrified to ask themselves WHY would Rove try and protect a Dem fundraiser, slumlord, and con man who raised money for Obama. Wow, my dog, Baldrick has better critical thinking skills than Obamatrons…and he can’t even figure out how glass doors work. (I see squirrel, can’t get squirrel…BONK!)

        • simon, too

          And I think i’s because both are supported financially by the same people, say Auchi, and Talet Othman’s boss.

          So I consider them the same, (with difference though).

          Boy, panic in detroit, I think this issue hits a neocon Rove nerve, Fitzgerald’s investigations into the IL combine, and Washington…

        • workingclass artist

          Well…..Nixon had his fans too…..No ?

    • workingclass artist

      Merl…I have to disagree with you there…Politely….Grown ups need to be able to work with the opposition on occasion….Hillary is a grownup and knows which battles to pick and choose….A hallmark of ADUTHOOD….

      • simon, too

        Ive always thought a balanced POV was best, myself.

        I look at Cheney and see how ko0ky and unworkable his ideas are, but on the left you have someone like Robert Reich, say, or Ayers, and it’s just as untenable.

        But Hagel, last I heard anyway, as a Republican, struck me as decent, we wouldn’t agree on ALL policy, but he appears to want what is best for his constituents, as opposed to his financial masters, so he has credibility.

        But boy, this neocon crew is stupid, really really stupid.

    • Eurogirl70

      I think that most of us here do not have alot of love loss when it comes to the Republicans. But, Obama touts himself as a unifying figure. He sells himself as the candidate that can attract independent voters and moderate Republicans. He is the one who talks about what a great political changing figure Ronald Reagan was. He is the one who says that he can work acrosse the aisle, something he has in fact not done in his time in the Senate. No one made this an issue but Obama himself.

      • stodghie

        i was thinking yesterday about reagan. i was no fan of his but give credit where due. he debated and gave a big smile while destroying carter. he didn’t run and hide in a debate like obama is doing. that is part of why he won.

        • workingclass artist

          I hate to say it but Carter deserved it….His was a presidential disaster.

    • http://intentionally-blank.blogspot.com/ PMS

      I don’t want a President who can work with Republicans.

      Skipped Civics in high school, did you?

      Fuck Repubs.

      Yuck. Then you just get baby Repubs.

      • workingclass artist

        hmmmm…..Kinda makes miss Ol’ Tip…..( sigh )

    • Dawnelle

      That’s like saying – I have this disgusting disease but FK IT I don’t want to deal with it.

      YEA that will sure help CURE the problem!

      dee, dee, dee!

  • Poor White

    I so sad that 90% plus Blacks are voting for Obama and call the whites as racists.

    I will people voted on issues and decide on who is the best person to lead us to victory in Nov.

    I do not see Obama winning in Nov.

    • workingclass artist

      My not voting for BABY-O has nothin to do with the color of his skin….He is 1/2 cracker after all ( although deeply conflicted and self loathing of his crackerness )….I’m not voting for him because he is an electoral DISASTER and his campaign is the height of HYPOCRISY and FASCIST MANIPULATION.
      His campaign is deeply insulting….

    • rwc

      The weird thing is, is that the most of the people calling whites racist are mostly upper class white “progressives” such as the kossies, Josh Marshall, Sirota, Nora Ephron, etc.

      And they are doing it because thats all they have as their messiah has no real legislative track record to tout, no legal achievements, no real underlying philosophy or vision.

  • stodghie

    what has obama really done for the aa community? really i’d like to know. i don’t see voting for someone simply because they are the same skin tone as you are. make him earn your vote with doing things besides doing dog whistles and rap moves.

    compare that with what bill clinton has done here and in africa, i am insulted by the aa community’s shabby treatment of hillary.

    • Psychodrew

      I share your frustration. I honestly thought that Hillary would be doing better among black women, especially with her endorsements.

      I can understand why he’s doing so well, though. I must confess that part of the reason I am so excited about Hillary is that I see myself, my struggles as a gay man, in her. I’m sure that excitement is magnified for many African-Americans and Obama.

      • stodghie

        i was just channel surfing and happened on the view. jeez! someone was saying, “you just don’t understand why we support obama”. no, i don’t. i can see being proud and thinking about it but only after you ask very hard questions. that isn’t being done. it is the same type of hoopla that goes with hero worship for rock stars or sports figures. no thanks!

        • workingclass artist

          Whoopie supports Hillary……does’nt she or has she been thugged ?

        • Strawberrybitch

          I had a friend of mine who used to say “You just don’t understand why I love him” when we talked about her boyfriend. He used to smack her around and cheat on her. I think when someone uses the term, “You just don’t understand…” intervention by mental health professionals should be mandatory.

          • workingclass artist

            Just heard that the Good Rev. Wright is speakin before the Nat’l. Press Club….That would be interesting..Hmmmmm…..More fuel for the BONFIRE OF THE VANITIES….methinks….

          • Dawnelle

            HAHAHAHA!! That’s a GOOD indicator!!

      • Jeff

        “I must confess that part of the reason I am so excited about Hillary is that I see myself, my struggles as a gay man, in her. I’m sure that excitement is magnified for many African-Americans and Obama.”

        I can see how African-Americans see their struggles in Obama. I must confess I am unable to see how gay men see the same in Hillary Clinton, though I have heard the same thing from other gay men. Care to enlighten me?

        • Amanda

          I’m not a gay man, or a lesbian, but just as you said AA see their struggles in Obama, even though not many of them were raised in Hawaii, went to Harvard Univ etc, so then there must be something the gay men see in Hillary.

  • http://intentionally-blank.blogspot.com/ PMS

    Just In! Obama answers the 3AM call!

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LLTMzpBOTnc

    • workingclass artist

      OK….Now my coffee is all over my key board……ROFL…..That was GENIUS

  • Pat Newcomb

    Do you think more voters (and even MSM) are paying attention now? – I do. Guess this “broken record” stuff is beginning to work.
    Great summary and resource for future arguments.

  • Steve Fox

    Hillary Clinton has been accused of destroying the Democratic party because of her ambition. But the charge is more appropriate against Barack Obama.

    In eight years, Obama will be only 54 years old. In those eight years, he could have padded his resume with actual accomplishments. He could have used the time to either fix or make irrelevant some of his flaws. And he would have learned a lot.

    A year ago, Hillary Clinton was not onlyfavored to win the Democratic nomination. Even the Republicans, including our arch enemies like Tom DeLay, were conceding the general election to her.

    But it was Obama’s ambition that screwed eveything up. His decision to enter the race — with no good reason, since the Clinton and Obama policy positions are similar (I think Clinton is actually more liberal) is the factor that may destroy the party.

    We could have had an easy 16 years of Democrats elected to the White House, eight for Clinton, then eight for Obama. But because of his ambition, we’ll be lucky if we get four years.

    • Jeff

      But it was Obama’s ambition that screwed eveything up. His decision to enter the race — with no good reason, since the Clinton and Obama policy positions are similar (I think Clinton is actually more liberal) is the factor that may destroy the party.

      This pesky thing called a primary season sure got in the way, too. And not to mention all those awful voters who couldn’t stop their selfish, voting-for-Obama ways.

      • TeakwoodKite

        This pesky thing called “lies”.
        Why is BO lying like a Rezko rug?

        The Illinois Democrat received $46,000 in donations from executives and workers last month. In a campaign ad, he said he took no money from oil companies.

        http://www.latimes.com/news/politics/la-na-money24apr24,0,2613458.story

      • workingclass artist

        Ehemmmm……There are no caucuses in Nov. ( sigh )….Your candidate is headed for POLITICAL OBLIVION……Either way you cut it…He is a sham

  • CAE

    “Now I concede that polling data indicates that Obama does better among registered Republicans.”

    My question is how many of these Republicans will vote the same way in the GE as in their primary? How may of these Dems for a Day folks are going to go back and vote McCain in the general? Will their Hillary hatred stay with them with all the way into November, especially with Sen. Foot-in-Mouth??

    • nativeokie

      I guess no one ever lies to a pollster.

      • workingclass artist

        Agree….Folks say all kinds of stuff to get out the door….What happens in the booth tells a different story…..Same goes for the convention….

  • sonia

    good morning ,,,hill supporters

    ready to blog

    ready to make calls

    ready to roll up ur sleeves

    ready to take our country back into our hands

    ready for a woman in charge

    I AM YAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYHILLARYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYHILLARYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY

    ARE YOU ???

  • sonia

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IN5StQAr7n0&feature=related

    I DON,T BELEVE IT

    DID THIS HAPPEN IN AMERICA ???

    IS HE STILL TEACHING SOMEWHERE????

  • sonia

    http://www.rosie.com

    The poll is on the left side where it says “Question of the Day” with Hillary’s photo on it.
    The poll will pop up requesting your input.

  • sonia

    Hillary carried his county by more than 70% votes.

    Lets email Bob Casey to support Hillary instead of Obama.

    http://casey.senate.gov/contact/

  • sonia

    The Tide has turned and all the spinning from the other camp does not change the facts.

    We must now really push for Michigan and Florida to be counted as is or for a re-vote primary be set for June! Individual personal emails have a huge impact:

    Please email the DNC at this link:
    http://www.democrats.org/contact.html

    Email House Speaker Pelosi at this link:
    http://speaker.house.gov/contact/

    Email Senate Leader Harry Reid:
    http://reid.senate.gov/contact/index.cfm

  • jes

    “This is not consistent with what Senator Obama said at the Las Vegas debate in November, when he suggested that the American people were looking for “straight answers to tough questions.””

    But he meant the tough questions are to be directed towards Hillary. Not him. He’s supposed to get the pillow, be fawned over by the MSM and repeat over and over “I agree with Hillary”.