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		<title>By: Hg</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/22816/the-walk-on-water/#comment-1198658</link>
		<dc:creator>Hg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Apr 2009 14:00:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;What stones?&quot; The stones are the disciples of Obama that he steps on, and when he runs the second time there are other stones he will stack on top of the old ones. He has a huge cache of stones under his bus. Obama walks on s--*</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;What stones?&#8221; The stones are the disciples of Obama that he steps on, and when he runs the second time there are other stones he will stack on top of the old ones. He has a huge cache of stones under his bus. Obama walks on s&#8211;*</p>
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		<title>By: Touchet</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/22816/the-walk-on-water/#comment-1198142</link>
		<dc:creator>Touchet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Apr 2009 13:55:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/D?c111:1:./temp/~c111jrrsA1::</description>
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		<title>By: dcmediagirl</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/22816/the-walk-on-water/#comment-1198140</link>
		<dc:creator>dcmediagirl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Apr 2009 13:52:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just to be clear, what you&#039;re saying is you only want people who agree with you to post comments on your entries?  If you don&#039;t like the absurd and insulting &quot;metaphorical burqa&quot; observation perhaps you should scold the person who originally posted it. It&#039;s interesting that when challenged a number of people on this thread resort to foot stamping, namecalling and misdirection instead of debate.  How ironic that  when your ideas are criticized you tell the person to shut up and go away. I thought you were upset about the lack of open and honest media?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just to be clear, what you&#8217;re saying is you only want people who agree with you to post comments on your entries?  If you don&#8217;t like the absurd and insulting &#8220;metaphorical burqa&#8221; observation perhaps you should scold the person who originally posted it. It&#8217;s interesting that when challenged a number of people on this thread resort to foot stamping, namecalling and misdirection instead of debate.  How ironic that  when your ideas are criticized you tell the person to shut up and go away. I thought you were upset about the lack of open and honest media?</p>
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		<title>By: pm317</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/22816/the-walk-on-water/#comment-1198098</link>
		<dc:creator>pm317</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Apr 2009 12:32:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I will say this one last time. Read my original comment and perhaps Docelder&#039;s comments to see where I was going with it. If you don&#039;t get it, you don&#039;t get it. And don&#039;t attribute that metaphorical burqa thing to me -- I didn&#039;t say it. 

And stop harassing people on these threads and go get a life or something. Don&#039;t you have some high powered career you need to babysit?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I will say this one last time. Read my original comment and perhaps Docelder&#8217;s comments to see where I was going with it. If you don&#8217;t get it, you don&#8217;t get it. And don&#8217;t attribute that metaphorical burqa thing to me &#8212; I didn&#8217;t say it. </p>
<p>And stop harassing people on these threads and go get a life or something. Don&#8217;t you have some high powered career you need to babysit?</p>
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		<title>By: Elizabeth</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/22816/the-walk-on-water/#comment-1198073</link>
		<dc:creator>Elizabeth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Apr 2009 11:09:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Exactly. Media control and censorship has actually been enforceable in the past, during the First World War for example, only because the number of outlets was so few and the space they operated in so narrow. When the only real mass media were newspapers and movies, even the STATE, here in America, not the Taliban or whatever, came just this side of censorship by implementing &quot;voluntary guidelines&quot; for the news media to restrict coverage. It was as sophisticated and comprehensive a propaganda dissemination as any modern advertising agency that the proliferation of viewing options has put utterly out of the question. 


Maybe it is the propaganda model in eduction that is making everyone so gullible ? Pick up an official student newspaper on most campuses and you&#039;ll find it a much worse offender of liberal bias than any mainstream commercial press.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Exactly. Media control and censorship has actually been enforceable in the past, during the First World War for example, only because the number of outlets was so few and the space they operated in so narrow. When the only real mass media were newspapers and movies, even the STATE, here in America, not the Taliban or whatever, came just this side of censorship by implementing &#8220;voluntary guidelines&#8221; for the news media to restrict coverage. It was as sophisticated and comprehensive a propaganda dissemination as any modern advertising agency that the proliferation of viewing options has put utterly out of the question. </p>
<p>Maybe it is the propaganda model in eduction that is making everyone so gullible ? Pick up an official student newspaper on most campuses and you&#8217;ll find it a much worse offender of liberal bias than any mainstream commercial press.</p>
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		<title>By: dcmediagirl</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/22816/the-walk-on-water/#comment-1198062</link>
		<dc:creator>dcmediagirl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Apr 2009 10:20:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pook: pm317&#039;s comparison of the American media to the Taliban is ludicrous. As you can see, the commenters who agree with her are growing increasingly more hysterical and appear to have run out of rational points to make, if they ever had any in the first place. I wouldn&#039;t waste too much time thinking about it if I were you.  </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pook: pm317&#8242;s comparison of the American media to the Taliban is ludicrous. As you can see, the commenters who agree with her are growing increasingly more hysterical and appear to have run out of rational points to make, if they ever had any in the first place. I wouldn&#8217;t waste too much time thinking about it if I were you.</p>
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		<title>By: dcmediagirl</title>
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		<dc:creator>dcmediagirl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Apr 2009 10:05:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cindy: In lieu of making a sensible point you a) completely distorted what I wrote, b) resorted to childish ad hominem attacks, and c) completely changed the subject, which is a pretty clear indication that you&#039;ve run out of &quot;sensible&quot; points to make.  Pathetic.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cindy: In lieu of making a sensible point you a) completely distorted what I wrote, b) resorted to childish ad hominem attacks, and c) completely changed the subject, which is a pretty clear indication that you&#8217;ve run out of &#8220;sensible&#8221; points to make.  Pathetic.</p>
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		<title>By: Cindy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cindy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Apr 2009 02:05:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>DCMedia---this is for you, too:
&quot; Elizabeth—--  You totally distorted what i was saying, but that’s you’re right, I guess. I think it’s women like you and DCmediagirl who have helped to keep American women in their place, second place, that is. We should all just shut up and put up with one of the most sexist societies on earth because we are not under Taliban rule, right?
The patriarchy is safe, thanks to people like you. Battered and murdered American women have enablers like you and DCMedia to thank for your complicity. Hope you sleep well tonight. I won’t.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>DCMedia&#8212;this is for you, too:<br />
&#8221; Elizabeth—&#8211;  You totally distorted what i was saying, but that’s you’re right, I guess. I think it’s women like you and DCmediagirl who have helped to keep American women in their place, second place, that is. We should all just shut up and put up with one of the most sexist societies on earth because we are not under Taliban rule, right?<br />
The patriarchy is safe, thanks to people like you. Battered and murdered American women have enablers like you and DCMedia to thank for your complicity. Hope you sleep well tonight. I won’t.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Cindy</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/22816/the-walk-on-water/#comment-1197896</link>
		<dc:creator>Cindy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Apr 2009 02:03:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Elizabeth---You totally distorted what i was saying, but that&#039;s you&#039;re right, I guess.  I think it&#039;s women like you and DCmediagirl who have helped to keep American women in their place, second place, that is.  We should all just shut up and put up with one of the most sexist societies on earth because we are not under Taliban rule, right?
The patriarchy is safe, thanks to people like you. Battered and murdered American women have enablers like  you and DCMedia to thank for your complicity. Hope you sleep well tonight. I won&#039;t.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Elizabeth&#8212;You totally distorted what i was saying, but that&#8217;s you&#8217;re right, I guess.  I think it&#8217;s women like you and DCmediagirl who have helped to keep American women in their place, second place, that is.  We should all just shut up and put up with one of the most sexist societies on earth because we are not under Taliban rule, right?<br />
The patriarchy is safe, thanks to people like you. Battered and murdered American women have enablers like  you and DCMedia to thank for your complicity. Hope you sleep well tonight. I won&#8217;t.</p>
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		<title>By: Pook</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/22816/the-walk-on-water/#comment-1197860</link>
		<dc:creator>Pook</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Apr 2009 01:28:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s scary how people brag about not reading the newspaper and blame &quot;the media&quot; for everything.

Great - let&#039;s not have a media. You wouldn&#039;t know about swine flu or the Iraq war. I am so sick of the media bashing. People are ignorant.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s scary how people brag about not reading the newspaper and blame &#8220;the media&#8221; for everything.</p>
<p>Great &#8211; let&#8217;s not have a media. You wouldn&#8217;t know about swine flu or the Iraq war. I am so sick of the media bashing. People are ignorant.</p>
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		<title>By: Pook</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/22816/the-walk-on-water/#comment-1197855</link>
		<dc:creator>Pook</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Apr 2009 01:20:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;I think the reference is more to the totalitarianism and control… in that totalitarianism on the part of the Taliban or the media is still totalitarianism. Smiley face totalitarianism maybe… but still.
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

We have so many choices for media I wonder what makes people say the media has control? Seriously, I&#039;ve tried every medium (blogs, cable news, dead-tree newspapers read offline on parchment, MSM newspapers read on the Internet, twitter) and in the end I get the most comprehensive and nuanced information from reading the dead-tree newspaper with no screen.

But today I noticed a CNN screen in an elevator and it felt so intrusive - is that what makes you compare the media to the Taliban? Cuz just wait until newspapers and the free press are gone. Then we&#039;ll have the Taliban. You think it&#039;s bad now? Just wait.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>I think the reference is more to the totalitarianism and control… in that totalitarianism on the part of the Taliban or the media is still totalitarianism. Smiley face totalitarianism maybe… but still.
</p></blockquote>
<p>We have so many choices for media I wonder what makes people say the media has control? Seriously, I&#8217;ve tried every medium (blogs, cable news, dead-tree newspapers read offline on parchment, MSM newspapers read on the Internet, twitter) and in the end I get the most comprehensive and nuanced information from reading the dead-tree newspaper with no screen.</p>
<p>But today I noticed a CNN screen in an elevator and it felt so intrusive &#8211; is that what makes you compare the media to the Taliban? Cuz just wait until newspapers and the free press are gone. Then we&#8217;ll have the Taliban. You think it&#8217;s bad now? Just wait.</p>
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		<title>By: foxyladi14</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/22816/the-walk-on-water/#comment-1197764</link>
		<dc:creator>foxyladi14</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Apr 2009 23:42:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>oh.i pray you are right.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>oh.i pray you are right.</p>
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		<title>By: Docelder</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/22816/the-walk-on-water/#comment-1197760</link>
		<dc:creator>Docelder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Apr 2009 23:41:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Now we’re on to paranoid ramblings about Nazis, Jews and camps.&lt;/blockquote&gt; I missed that somewhere. The only thing I might add is there is really no difference in oppression through the use of force and oppression by way of power abuse. Both can equally oppress. The Taliban uses force and the media uses power. Are they the same thing... not hardly. Can they both be oppressive and totalitarian? I think so. We have seen it. But maybe if the Tea Party people were all women, this wouldn&#039;t be such an issue?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Now we’re on to paranoid ramblings about Nazis, Jews and camps.</p></blockquote>
<p> I missed that somewhere. The only thing I might add is there is really no difference in oppression through the use of force and oppression by way of power abuse. Both can equally oppress. The Taliban uses force and the media uses power. Are they the same thing&#8230; not hardly. Can they both be oppressive and totalitarian? I think so. We have seen it. But maybe if the Tea Party people were all women, this wouldn&#8217;t be such an issue?</p>
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		<title>By: Larry</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/22816/the-walk-on-water/#comment-1197730</link>
		<dc:creator>Larry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Apr 2009 23:16:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Much as I dislike Obama, don&#039;t for one minute think that he won&#039;t run and win a second term.  Obamots are obsessive compulsive and have found no wrong with what he is doing in office.  These oc&#039;s own our media, run our schools and are working to control our lives worse that Repubs.  Hang on for the ride ... brown shirts to follow.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Much as I dislike Obama, don&#8217;t for one minute think that he won&#8217;t run and win a second term.  Obamots are obsessive compulsive and have found no wrong with what he is doing in office.  These oc&#8217;s own our media, run our schools and are working to control our lives worse that Repubs.  Hang on for the ride &#8230; brown shirts to follow.</p>
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		<title>By: DCMediagirl</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/22816/the-walk-on-water/#comment-1197729</link>
		<dc:creator>DCMediagirl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Apr 2009 23:16:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Elizabeth: Thanks for the comment. I didn&#039;t realize that defending the rights of women living under the Taliban is considered &quot;pious&quot;.  Now we&#039;re on to paranoid ramblings about Nazis, Jews and camps. Now we have women belittling the plight of women who are brutalized on a daily basis? I&#039;ve officially gone through the looking glass.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Elizabeth: Thanks for the comment. I didn&#8217;t realize that defending the rights of women living under the Taliban is considered &#8220;pious&#8221;.  Now we&#8217;re on to paranoid ramblings about Nazis, Jews and camps. Now we have women belittling the plight of women who are brutalized on a daily basis? I&#8217;ve officially gone through the looking glass.</p>
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