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Gene Sperling: The MVP – Another Reason To Support Hillary

By Taters on April 24, 2008 at 12:00 AM in Bill Clinton, Economy, Hillary Clinton

Many of you are already familiar with Gene Sperling, chief economic advisor to Hillary Clinton. He’s brilliant, highly respected, well liked and in the Clinton adminstration he was the man President Clinton called the Most Valuable Player. That’s pretty high praise from the chief of a very talented administration. Mr. Sperling is credited as being the driving force behind paying off the nation’s deficit – therefore balancing the budget – and taking us into a surplus. Remember that?  

He’s also an interesting guy. An author, a former Big Ten tennis champ at the University of Minnesota, he also served as a consultant for the series “West Wing.” 

Mr. Sperling serves as a  senior fellow at the Center of American Progress and has a column at Bloomberg - where he is also a contributing editor. Oh yeah, he also is on the staff of Council of Foreign Relations.

He also worked hard with then First Lady Hillary Clinton on S-CHIP. They share a similar work ethic and a passion for doing heavy lifting on complicated, detailed work. He’s known for burning the midnight oil when other souls have gone to bed. Oh yeah, Sperling also helped the Dems beat back President Bush and the GOP’s attempt to privatize social security.

Although he can “wonk” with the best of them – one of the many reasons I like him is his ability to make plain to us layfolks topics such as health care and economics. Our “girl” has that same ability and in my opinion couldn’t have a better person as her senior economic advisor.  Listen to his interview with Marketplace.  And if you want to check out what true progressive economics can be you may wish to read this piece by Mr. Sperling regarding a Universal 401K.

The damage done by the current administration will take serious work to repair - but with hard work it is doable. Hillary Clinton is ready to lead and has the best team available.  And Gene Sperling is a big part of that team. 

  • Patrick Henry

    Yes Taters..We know that there are ways for Hillery to “Get Her Done”…with all the good people available ..I Have no doubt Hillary can organize that…Obama says he is NOT a good organizer…and that is NOT the kind of Leadership American needs ..

    Show Time…!!

    • jwrjr

      Obama’s resemblence to bush grows with each passing day.

      • hells kitchen

        We need a video that morphs the smirk of Bush into the smirk of Obama. Or is there one out there?

        • Talktruth

          That’s a great idea! I hope someone posts it here, if it’s done.

      • Kourian

        I finally figured out who Obama looks like. Who he talks like. It’s the way he drops his jaw and his words at the end of phrases/sentences/whatever Barry thinks they are. What I can tell they’re on about the same ethical level too.

        http://youtube.com/watch?v=sqWMI0Ch5cM
        http://youtube.com/watch?v=plgNeLBxcUc

    • http://hyper-eductated-uppity-woman.blogspot.com Uppity

      A Community Organizer with no organization skills? Super!

      • Escoffier

        Community organizer is a synonym for agitator in Chicago. It is part of the Alinsky school to keep people angry and frustrated to gain power over them. They never actually “organize” to better peoples lives, only to gain political office and money a la the Rev Wright, Rezko, and Bill Ayers. I have tried to find out what Sen Obama organized and all I can find is that he was good at the Alinsky method and agitating. Getting people to be angry to put pressure on government can be a very good thing, but doing it so your friends can get housing contracts with public money to develop slums of which they skim off all the money is not.

        • simon, too

          You know, I was thinking of that earlier, this need to keep people angry as practiced by that group of morons, and what, did they miss Iraq, and Afghanistan?

          They lost.

          And even in terms of food shortages, or domestic unrest, you know all the legislation Cheney passed through in regard to quelling domestic disturbances?

          Worked SO well in the Middle East, for them, didn’t it?

          And it hasn’t even occurred to them they’ve failured, therby handng control over to their enemies, as they now are in a, wait for it, prepetual state of anger and chaos, due to a lack of control and failure to achieve objective.

          Morons, butt stinking morons, the whole group, from Obama, to Cheney…

          Beware fatally flawed social theory in the hands of butt stinking morons…

          • simon, too

            they’ve failured?

            Perhaps it’s the gun toting, uneducated, bitter white man in me, speaking today.

            They’ve failed, sorry…

            And handing.

        • Kourian

          That’s my impression because those neighbourhoods are still crap. Also the head of firm he came to work for quit after a few years and went into partnership with Rezko. They’re the ones I believe who own the empty lot next to the Barry mansion. It’s all just too much typical Chicago politics.

  • Taters

    Thanks for your response Patrick and like you, I have no doubt either.

  • ChrisXP

    And if you want to check out what true progressive economics can be

    ACK!

    Never use that as a campaign formula! Conservatives equate liberal with higher taxes, not more savings!!

    And paper (let alone electronic) assets mean little if an economy truly sours anyway. Only way to be secure is have a truly diversified savings program (paper backed up with hard assets like REAL gold [not gold certificates]) — and not put everything in a 401k nest egg.

    • Patrick Henry

      Roger that Chris..We are rapidly getting there..
      I want to know how Obama would solve an total dollar Collapse..??

      Lock up, stock Up, and Ready to Barter…Learn how people in Third World Countrys survive because George w. Bush has Lead the United States to that Door Step..with his “Glorious Globalization” Plan .

      Now, all the Super Powers Leaders are failures at creating any kind of “Workers Paradise”..and The United states may have only One Last Chance..

      I think They all have Posters on the Wall that read..

      “‘ Lifes a Bitch for the Working class..then they Die..”..

      (but they Thrive on HOPE)

      what we MUST have now is the leadership that will best Creat E. PLURUS UNUM ..no matter what happens..

      We MUST Stand United..

    • Taters

      Chris XP – I wouldn’t and don’t sweat conservatives like you appear to. And ‘progressive’ is not a dirty word. The opposite of is regressive.
      Debating against McCain’s ecomomic plans are simple.
      All he offers are tax cuts for the wealthiest. We have the past seven years as a template to offer as evidence.

  • jwrjr

    My “savings account” consists of coins (mostly proofs, mostly silver with a little gold). Their value is going up faster that any bank savings account (largely due to bush’s dollar = toilet paper economy).

    • apishapa

      Well, my 401 K (tiny as it is) is TANKING. I moved everything to bonds, but I already lost over 10% in the last three months.

  • TeakWoodKite

    A co worker was complaining about the cost of filling up his gas tank… after I told him what it was like working on the gas lines of the Nixon years and that it was not going tobe getting a cheaper, I told him to keep his tanks full.

    Remeber Odd Even license plates? Makes sure you have one plate of each.

    I look forward to becoming more read up on him Taters. Thanks.

    • simon, too

      I remember searching out gas stations, driving with my father, waiting in long long lines to get maybe half tank of gas.

      And then only if you made it to the pump before they sold out.

      At that time, too, both of my parents were laid off, with no money coming in, but, they were astute.

      Companies also would take a voluntary day off during the week, to help conserve fuel.

      Other companies went out of business, due to the oil shortage.

      Sure wish Cheney had been bright enough to invest in green energy all these years.

      And you know, I don’t think that group of republicans, or Obama’s, has one economist smart enough to craft an oil policy, to control prices.

      They’re too busy trying to anger people, forgetting to check their own anger levels.

      Butt.stinking.morons.

      They’ll buy anything, beause they’re too stupid to understand what works.

      • jwrjr

        This is the reason an attack on any OPEC member would be suicidal. They don’t need armies. All they need to do is say “we will sell no more oil to you” and our economy will collapse.

  • justsomeone

    Taters, I read all your hot links & nowhere did I find any reference to individuals, it’s just quotes like “You & your spouse” or “Hard working families” & what’s up with wanting to increase taxes on people who have already saved & invested? Sperlings acts like 15K ( the amount he assumes the average mid range investor has in stock investment) is chicken feed. He wants a 20% cut of it to distribute to “hard working families”. Nothing I can imagine is going to to really shake down the uber rich, try & squeeze them too much & they’ll just leave. This sounds alot like squeezing the mid range investor, nullifying his savings. i.e. 0-15K is all equal?? All the tax plans reward having numerous children in an over populated world, that makes no sense to me. So if you’ve already raised your kids & file individually you’re the patsy. Sorry, I’m not doing any back flips.

    • simon, too

      Nothing I can imagine is going to to really shake down the uber rich, try & squeeze them too much & they’ll just leave.

      And go where?

      The whole world will be affected by this, there is NO way out.

      The quality of life in the US is such there is no other place to really live, taxes can be made equitable.

      Used to be, say, the uber rich in Hollywood could invest in bright young things, the new Bill Gates or some new artist, and write the interest off their T bills.

      Win-win, they love to invest, they nurture talent, they get the glory, and with smart investment, a slice of the profits.

      I see unnecesary panic, unrealistic thinking, even paranoia, here, really really interesting.

  • Northwest rain

    Meanwhile Obama’s economic advisers have close ties to the Chicago School of Economics — Milton Friedman’s free market voodoo economics. Naomi Klein’s book, “Shock Doctrine” is a must read.

    I have a feeling if Obama was given a test on Economics — on what he personally knows — he’d fail.

    • workingclass artist

      Check out REZKO WATCH……Baby-O knows enough not to pay his property taxes…..He is a disaster….The first Clinton/Gore did a good job with the economy…..I have no doubts that Sen. Clinton will be able to clean up this wreck…

      • Escoffier

        Baby-O is going to be in some very prominent Republican commercials.

        Did you see the blog entry at Rezkowatch citing the chronology of deeds to the side garden lot to the mansion? It is either screwed up or the Rezko’s may have deeded to the Obama’s the entire lot, but then a year later conveyed the 5/6 to someone else, and then it is deeded to someone else again. The press will not touch this stuff with a ten foot pole.

        • workingclass artist

          Yeah……Rezco watch is part of my morning routine….Those guys are like blood hounds after a good scent….RELENTLESS and good sourcing….Baby-O has a representative sitting in on the trial every day…..Wonder why Dominc Dunne hasn’t written about this celeb trial?….Things that make you go Hmmmmm………

          • simon, too

            And big bad, ahem, Karl Rove was mentioned yesterday, by the witness, as trying to have Fitzgerald removed.

            Too close for comfort, eh?

            LOLOLOLOLOLOL.

            The best prosecuting attorney I have ever seen, the best America has to over, and that fat pigman tries to have him fired.

            On what grounds Karl?

          • Escoffier

            Nothing about this stuff in Chicago adds up. Obama is asked a question, the campaign gives some stuttering incoherent excuse, and the press says “Well alrighty”. No proof is ever asked for nor is any offered. Sen Obama and gang have been caught in numerous huge fibs, so why does the press just publish the answers as gospel? They do not even check public records, analyze his tax returns, nothing. This far beyond not vetting a candidate, it is covering for him. The Republicans are turning over every rock, and digging in the garbage cans. Swiftboating is going to look like an unpleasant interlude.

            • workingclass artist

              Ehemmm…..It all adds up when a candidate is being INSTALLED instead of elected…..Makes perfect sense in many 3rd world countries and the former USSR world of Putin…I’m just sayin’

    • Kourian

      Friedman is teh suck. I can’t believe he got money from Alfred Nobel.

  • Talktruth

    This is a great article to share around the internets, Taters. Since the economy is the biggest worry on most people’s minds, it will, I think, help woo supporters to Hillary.

    I was just wondering yesterday, as a matter of fact, whether she could do as good a job as her husband on balancing the budget. I’m sure other people are asking the same thing. You answered the question! I’m taking this over to http://www.savagepolitics.com first thing. Thanks!

  • Talktruth

    And people might want to throw in, while you’re posting links to and snippets of this article, what you remember about the Clinton years.

    I remember 75-cent gas!!!

    Grabbers are helpful. The biggest grabber in Taters article, for me, was “Mr. Sperling is credited as being the driving force behind paying off the nation’s deficit – therefore balancing the budget – and taking us into a surplus.” That type of comment makes economics personal and positive.

    • Kourian

      Here’s a good ref from W hisselfs next time Barry says the 1990s were bad.

      During the administration of William Jefferson Clinton, the U.S. enjoyed more peace and economic well being than at any time in its history. He was the first Democratic president since Franklin D. Roosevelt to win a second term. He could point to the lowest unemployment rate in modern times, the lowest inflation in 30 years, the highest home ownership in the country’s history, dropping crime rates in many places, and reduced welfare rolls. He proposed the first balanced budget in decades and achieved a budget surplus. As part of a plan to celebrate the millennium in 2000, Clinton called for a great national initiative to end racial discrimination.

      You can’t top that, Axelrod. You can’t waffle around that, Barry.

  • Ugo

    My personal thought.

    Is it not ironic that when a “black” candidate, Sen. Barack Hussen Obama, is running for the presidency of the USA that a black man, Obama, is try hard to deny others their vote? Yet those talking heads in the media do not have the gut to say a thing. Those journalist sat back argue and lecture us about the rules. Hmm

    just my thought.

    • beebop

      The part that is just so ironic is that Donna Brazile made her reputation on voting rights and has the nerve to back this idiot who is setting “voting rights” back beyond the Bush administration and 2000. Carter has soiled himself.

      Rules? What a lame excuse. It sounds so amazingly petulent coming from his lips.

      • pm317

        Everybody who has supported him now has compromised their principles and convictions in some way or the other — bigger the names, bigger compromises. IMO, Carter has squandered his credibility on this cretin, especially in view of what he has done with respect to FL and MI — who will believe Carter with his election work in third world countries now if he can’t convince this guy to count every vote here?

        • beebop

          I got a prissy email from the Carter foundation … which now appears to be sitting on shifting sands.

          Here in Ohio the Habitat people have foreclosed on a home or two. Something is bitterly wrong.

          And why does Habitat not “re-habitat” existing housing in devestated neighborhoods where people can retain the support network that they need for daycare, etc?

          New is nice, but I am not certain that it is very “green.” IMO

          • simon, too

            And why don’t they rework the loans, taking a smaller margin of profit?

            They’d rather lose everything, and go bankrupt?

            Yes, it’s the Cheney way.

        • workingclass artist

          Agree…( SIGH ) Carter needs to go back to the peanut farm and let Roz and Amy take care of him….In his senility he has exposed his petty fear of being eclipsed by Bill Clinton….( sad ) truly…( sigh )

    • Kourian

      It’s ironic but if you know how they work it’s not surprising. They’re not for equality for minorities in general – they’re only for themselves. They really enjoy tramping on other minorities. That’s empirical and anecdotal but that’s my unequivocal take.

  • mostest

    Simply stated, when you look at Obama you do not see a real hard, burning the midnight oil got to get this done kinda of a guy. When I like at Obama I see a light weight all talk kinda of guy.
    Now Hillary looks and speaks like the kinda of person who will burn the midnight oil, make everyone stay until a solution is found. She appears to be the kinda of person who entertains every reasonable thought but will call bullshit if need be. Hillary appears to be the kinda of person that if your in aroom with her trying hash out a problem you better have some thick skin…I like that!

    • beebop

      When I look at Barack, I see and hear Henny Penny.

      When I look at and hear Hillary, I am reminded of The Little Red Hen …

  • Talktruth

    abcnews.com has put up a story with the headline: “Why Can’t Obama Close the Deal?” Of course, that’s not the headline they put on the main page, but you do see it when you click on the story. On the main page, it’s “Still in Lead: Obama’s Apparent Challenges.”

    Subhead is good: “Clinton’s Blue-Collar Coalition Fuels Critical Wins, Raises General Election Doubts”

    http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/Vote2008/comments?type=story&id=4712936

    • simon, too

      Today, they were saying Obama is a victim of racism, on ABC.

      Could they pout their heads any further up their ass*s?

      Apparently not.

      Obama is a corrupt piece of sh@t, face the truth.

      At this point, the “news readers” are only hurting themselves, they sure aren’t analysts.

      Just step back, and watch them fall.

      • Talktruth

        Today, they were saying Obama is a victim of racism, on ABC.

        When you don’t have a real argument, go for the cheap, inflammatory lie, I always say.

      • Kourian

        Obama is a corrupt piece of sh@t, face the truth.

        ‘The truth about Obama is that he is not a good man. He is a bad man.’
        – Selwyn Duke

  • pm317

    Obama’s economic adviser — talking to Canadians behind our backs Goolsbee!!!

  • Nag

    Thank you, Taters. I get a little nuts when people say things like “well, Obama and Clinton have almost identical platforms, so it’s just a matter of personalities.” I say look at their advisors if you want to know what an actual policy implementation would look like. Compare Gene Sperling to Austan Goolsbee and you have your answer.

    Great job, Taters.

    • beebop

      Anyone who thinks that Barack Obama means what he says doesn’t need to think back any further than his “my signature is not on that questionnaire” to understand what a farce an Obama presidency would be.

      • workingclass artist

        Add to that those missing state senate papers…..Hmmmm

        • Kourian

          Add to that those missing state senate papers

          Yeah whatever happened to those papers anyhow? LOL

      • Talktruth

        He’s such a liar and an immature brat. I really think, and many people have already said this, I’m sure, that it would be practically like another four years of the Shrub.

      • Mr.Murder

        What about your handwriting, Sen.Obama, is it on there?

        Perhaps McCain would ask you that in a debate.

  • jen

    Thanks, Taters!

    I think a team like they had on the “West Wing” would be brilliant! President Hillary Clinton and vice-president Wes Clark! :D

    • workingclass artist

      I prefer Clark as Sec. of Defense….She’s going to need a heavy hitter state pol….probably from the south….

  • sonia

    good morning ,,,hill supporters

    ready to blog

    ready to make calls

    ready to roll up ur sleeves

    ready to take our country back into our hands

    ready for a woman in charge

    I AM YAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYHILLARYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYHILLARYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY

    ARE YOU ???

  • sonia

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IN5StQAr7n0&feature=related

    THIS GUY IS NUTS

    I DON,T BELEVE IT

    DID THIS HAPPEN IN AMERICA ???

    IS HE STILL TEACHING SOMEWHERE????

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  • sonia

    Hillary carried his county by more than 70% votes.

    Lets email Bob Casey to support Hillary instead of Obama.

    http://casey.senate.gov/contact/

  • sonia

    The Tide has turned and all the spinning from the other camp does not change the facts.

    We must now really push for Michigan and Florida to be counted as is or for a re-vote primary be set for June! Individual personal emails have a huge impact:

    Please email the DNC at this link:
    http://www.democrats.org/contact.html

    Email House Speaker Pelosi at this link:
    http://speaker.house.gov/contact/

    Email Senate Leader Harry Reid:
    http://reid.senate.gov/contact/index.cfm

    • Kourian

      The Tide has turned and all the spinning from the other camp does not change the facts.

      Next thing you know Barry will write to Dean and convince him August in Denver can be too divisive so he should just be awarded the nomination now. Next thing you know after that Dean will go public about it.

  • justsomeone

    Simon too, “And go where?”, you ask. Well the Caymans, Bahamas, Monaco, Switzerland for starters. Am curious why you avoided my stronger issue of what’s being proposed for the so called mid range investors. This whole thing could easily be solved equitably by keeping cap gains, div & interest taxes at its current 15% for mid range investors. Obama mentioned this breifly & then back peddled. Hillary, not a word. Hillary’s 20% will hurt but suppose I could live with it, but Obama’s 28% really sucks. This is where he lost me. Set up a premise the middle class is really being squeezed & then propose to increase their taxes makes no sense to me.

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  • http://dotcommodity.dailykos.com dotcommodity

    Just as her economic policy is more progressive, his environmental policy needs to be explained to those who very wrongly think they are identical on policy. He has ethanol lobbyists and a nuclear power CEO on his advising team and keeps on with the Bush push of “clean coal” and it shows in how much he devotes to these in his energy plan.

  • justsomeone

    Oh & since all of Sperlings proposals heinge on 5% interest & in many places 2.5% is now the norm, what’s his answer to that malady? 40% tax on cap gains? Gotta get that money from somewhere.

    • Taters

      Comment by justsomeone

      Oh & since all of Sperlings proposals heinge on 5% interest & in many places 2.5% is now the norm, what’s his answer to that malady? 40% tax on cap gains? Gotta get that money from somewhere.

      What, you don’t think 5 per cent is reaonable over a forty year period?
      Which you didn’t mention, by the way.
      Are you opposed to poor or middle income working families being a part of the investor class?

  • ned bulous

    Why are Joseph Steglitz and Edmund Phelps supporting Obama? Steglitz won the Nobel prize for economics in 2001 and Phelps won in 2006. Steglitz was connected to the Clinton presidency and said that Obama’s speech on the economy was “brilliant”.

    Both are FAR superior economists compared to Sperling. But either Democrat would be FAR BETTER than ‘More of the Same’ McCain!!!

    • beebop

      A vote for Obama guarantees an overwhelming win in November for John McCain and four more years of a Republican president.

      • ned bulous

        BS!

        Obama has a FAR BETTER chance of defeating McCain than Hillary does! Even the Republicans KNOW THIS!!! Why do you think they are trying so hard to make Hillary our nominee? Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity, Scathe, FauxNews, Ann Coulter, etc, etc

        With ‘endorsements’ like these, do you REALLY believe that they plan on supporting Clinton in the GE?!?!?

        • beebop

          Running from a debate with Hillary smells like fear to the Republicans. They love them some fear. By the time they get finished, that won’t be the only smell.

          • ned bulous

            Aren’t 21 debates enough?

            I mean, I get it! Hillary has mandates in her Health Care Plan, Obama does not. . . BOTH have merits and I’m sure they could come up with a comprimise plan (especially with Hillary as VP or Majority Leader)!

            Actually, the front runner ALWAYS wants fewer debates (look at Clinton versus Dole in 1996!!!) It’s desperation on the part of the Clinton camp (and a way to get free TV time).

            When ‘debates’ include inane questions about ‘flag pins’ and the moderators DEBATING the candidates over Capital Gains Cuts, we KNOW they have officially jumped the shark!!!

            (PS aren’t debates betweeen the candidates, and not with the moderators?!?!?)

          • ned bulous

            BTW, please name me another primary campaign which has had more that TWENTY ONE DEBATES!

            I’m eagerly awaiting your answer!

            • beebop

              Running from a debate with Hillary smells like fear to the Republicans. They love them some fear. By the time they get finished, that won’t be the only smell. And funny thing. It is the only debate with a FEMALE MODERATOR. HAHAHAHAHA

            • http://hyper-educated-uppity-woman.blogspot.com Uppity

              The two actual candidates had four debates alone. That kind of argument works well over a Kos though. Why don’t you go there. People here don’t forget those details. Just sayin’. The problem is, Barry lost all four. That’s because beyond YES WE CAN! and “Hope-y Change-y” he has no details to off other than to bounce off Hillary’s ideas. And even then he can’t get it right. His faux ‘health care’ reform is worthless. He’s going to save everybody $2500 a year on single pay policies for their familes that cost $18k or more. Hell even John McCain will give them that. Like you, he is out of touch with reality. Do your parents pay for your health care? Or do you think your school or employer is going to do it forever with your little co-pay. Fifty million people learned the way you will learn one day. But don’t let that stop you from going to the next rally. But as a small assignment, crack open a history book and find how many charismatic leaders who offered nothing but words took their sycophants straight to hell.

              • ned bulous

                All this stupid namecalling just makes you look juvenile. Like the Right-Wing blogs which call Obama ‘Barry’ or ‘Earbama’ and Hillary ‘Hitlery Clit-on’. . .

                Obama is winning and will be our nominee. I know that you prefer Clinton (and she’s a fine candidate, whom I would have gladly supported had she been our nominee). . .

                But it’s time to face the fact. . . All this Democratic infighting only helps McCain!

              • workingclass artist

                Ehemmm……Uppity I don’t think BABY-O’s supporters don’t study any history….After all he is the Only AA candiate to ever run for POTUS and it is for this reason only that they can be proud of their country…I doubt if any of his minions know anything about the history of the party which explains their befuddlement at the anger of the base ( Clinton’s 2/3 of the trditional democratic base )….His minions are unable to think outside any box and are narrow road people….His campaign inspires a collective myopic tunnelvision which is a perfect foundation for facism….I’m just sayin’

                • ned bulous

                  NICE!

                  Obama will be our nominee. . . and you guys are BITTER indeed!

                  ‘Fascism’??? Why was Hillary ‘honored’ to be running with Obama? She has praised him lavishly on occasion and she WILL support him as our candidate (she may be VP)!

                  But her recent talk of NUKING IRAN has started to scare me! Aren’t you concerned about THAT?

                  • http://hyper-educated-uppity-woman.blogspot.com Uppity

                    See you don’t understand what you don’t want to understand. For me it’s not just about Hillary. I do not like or trust Obama. If we were talking about Edwards, I would “fall in line”

                    As for Iran, well I supposed we could do the Hope-y Change-thing with them and just tell them that it’s not really nice to nuke the world. Gently of course. That should work.

                    Furthermore, there is no doubt in my mind that barack “I am not against ALL wars” obama intends not to end the war at all, but instead to reverse the direction of the guns for his friends who have supported him handily with money and even Hamas endorsements. You are a sucker. That’s why adults don’t let radicals and children pick presidents.

                  • Taters

                    ned bulous – You appear to have a flair for the overly obvious and seem to have no problem being disengenous.
                    If Iran nukes Israel, Iran will face serious consequences.
                    So according to your logic(And I believe I’m being kind, mind you) Sen. Obama believes there should be no retaliation should Iran strike Israel with nukes?

              • ned bulous

                BTW, insulting me DOESN’T help your candidate or make her supporters look good!

                By Clinton’s own acknowledgement, the primary difference between their health care plans is the mandate. I believe that Obama would have MUCH LONGER coattails (yes, even in ‘Red States’), more goodwill

                I know THREE ‘Obamacans’ personally- as well as Lincoln Chafee, Eisenhauer, etc. WHich prominent Republicans support Clinton?

                I have employer provided Health Care. It’s a VERY GOOD plan, but still sucks compared to ‘Single Payer’- which NEITHER candidate is promising! Edwards had the BEST plan (and I was an Edwards supporter), but Obama has the BEST CHANCE to get it done! And do you REALLY think Pres. Obama would veto Hillary’s plan if she were majority leader?!?!?

                Remember, the Clintons had 8 years to reform health care and they couldn’t get it done! Now her surrogates (like Schumer) are downplaying expectations for her plan! PLEASE!!!! We shouldn’t give up before we even get into the White House!

      • ned bulous

        The only thing I find scary about this sentiment is the possibility that it is TRUE that Hillary supporters would give up the Supreme Court and support McCain over Obama!

        I always thought that Hillary was posturing on the Iraq War and is really against it, like Obama. But when I hear her talk about ‘nuclear retaliation’ against Iran, she sounds a lot like McCain!

        Is THIS why her supporters would vote for McCain? She’s more HAWKISH with regards to middle-eastern policies and, therefore, a lot like McCain in this regard?

        Scary that Clinton supporters would give up our Bill of Rights, Roe vs. Wade, etc, etc just because Obama wants to end our ‘Cowboy’ foreign policies!!!

        • beebop

          He couldn’t run his ass over to congratulate Roberts FAST enough! I am not in the least bit convinced he’s any better.

          A vote for Obama guarantees an overwhelming victory for John McCain in November and four more years of a Republican president

    • Taters

      Why are Joseph Steglitz and Edmund Phelps supporting Obama? Steglitz won the Nobel prize for economics in 2001 and Phelps won in 2006. Steglitz was connected to the Clinton presidency and said that Obama’s speech on the economy was “brilliant”.

      Both are FAR superior economists compared to Sperling. But either Democrat would be FAR BETTER than ‘More of the Same’ McCain!!!

      Awards are nice – but their results can not top Sperling’s. Simple. The difference between theory and practice.