The Movement

I just can’t believe how amazingly perceptive Flinneo is. It’s as if he was There and he Recognizes the signs again. And they are there. Frighteningly so. The children have been taken. That was the first step to the carnage.

It’s all the same Playbook, isn’t it Larry.

…shiver…

FLINEO…THAT WAS GENIUS… thanks for posting a good post Larry…

The Weathermen were the antithesis of the peace movement and the principles of King and Gandhi. I hated them then and, after 40 years of reflection, I hated them now — they severely damaged the peace and social justice movement in this country for a long time. The anti-war rallies I attended then were mostly peaceful with a real spiritual air about them — the students I was friends with in the 60′s thought these Ayers/Dohrn types were crazy and/or sadistic.

Bill Ayers appears to live not in a Copernican universe, but an Ayersian one.

As any student of rhetoric will tell you, Obama talks about unity precisely because he’s a divisive candidate. “We are united” means that there are divisions, and Obama has deepened these divisions. The fact that he could conflate Rev. Wright’s hate sermons with Gerri Ferraro’s simple observations shows how divisive and self-serving he really is. No thanks.

Ah, you Remember too!

Agree…..Goebbles 101…..He is a sham…and a facist one at that…..

What becomes again evident in this piece is everyone questions how bin Ladin can get young men to blow themselves up, just watch the video and the one statement by Flanagan “If you think that you have the moral high ground that is a very dangerous position and you can do some really dreadful things”

opps, doesn’t a candidate continually speak from a moral high ground?

Reading this excellent blog it occurred to me that there are those who incite a response, violent and non-violent mostly from impressionable minds about the woes of the society at large. They build their support by citing everything that is wrong with the world — a protest group for unnamed vices. They are mostly successful in bringing attention to the pressing needs of the society at that time. But mostly and woefully short on providing solutions, remedies, fixes for what ails the people. Obama seems like such a candidate. He has left no trail of evidence to show that he can actually fix the problems. He did not do much with his ailing district during his Illinois senate years; he did not do much for stopping the continuation of Iraq war in his US senate years and did not even exhibit much commitment to anti-war movement until it became politically expedient. Nothing in his past tells us that he can translate words into actions — in fact there does not seem to be any significant words either. So his past so far appears to be insignificant and of no consequence. And his current position seems to be don’t ask questions but “make me the President first.”

Why should we?

Uppity,

Was strolling over for my daily look at your blog and found this message:

Blog name hyper-eductated-uppity-woman is available to register!

Hope everything is okay and you have not been hacked.

good morning ,,,hill supporters

ready to blog

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ready to roll up ur sleeves

ready to take our country back into our hands

ready for a woman in charge

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True I only know the 60′s from a distance; this is a powerful video.

I liked the video.

It suffers from subtlety, though. Conversion of the faithful will not occur because cognitive dissonance of the True Believer has to be sledge hammered. Add to that the problem that the MTV generation has an attention span in the milliseconds.

It is also over the top to compare Obama worshipers to the SDS or the Weather Underground. Obama’s minions are pussys.

It may be also be moot. When the 60′s “happened” the baby boomers were that big bulge moving down the snake. We were one hellova demographic. The young people caught up in the Obama frenzy just do not have the same numbers we did. Ergo it is foolish to broker the comparison.

It is also necessary to point out that even with the baby boomer demographic we were still unsuccessful in electing McGovern. That is the bottom line.

It’s working fine far as I know. I just checked.
But nothing would surprise me.

Only 51 Uppity- but I distinctly remember- lots of politics talked around the dinner table in our house.
Flineo does an excellent job. I read and rec’d this over at MyDD.
Hope lots of parents of college and high school aged kids see this and take steps to get their kids out of that cult.

Ah the irony of the young, passionate followers of the New Guy heading down the same path as the forebears they despise. The more things change, the more they stay the same. How many of the flying-spittle Obamabots would have ended up in the Weather Underground forty years ago? I see a lot of Stalinist rhetoric and behavior from Obama and his followers.

http://www.eyeblast.tv/Public/Video.aspx?rsrcID=2036

interesting video about Black Liberation Theology and Marxism.

AHHH i remember like yesterday the fires in Newark NJ and Asbury Park and Philly and the bombs and the Watts riots..threats on NYC..it was a very frightening time..

Kent State..

and then we moved onto the SLA and Patty Hearst!!

Geez they were working big time on the New World Order then..they just didn’t have it perfected well enough then or the right people..Nixon let them down..

and people think things are bad now?????????

Well they are just smarter now..and they have had more time to do it in a more orderly manner i believe..

they fool us into thinking we have real elections..after years of taking over our entire system of voting and walla..we get an Obama..then they get the kids all riled up..( they need some group now don’t they..and they have worn out their welcome with the fundies..so its on to college kids again..everything is cyclical don’tcha know!!)

and is it any wonder the grown ups are voting for Hillary..we have seen this shit before!!..and we are very familiar with it..that is why they are trying so hard to shut us up in the media and to marginalize us!

don’t ever forget..with age comes wisdom..most of it.. learned wisdom from living ..

fly

Ah I see what’s wrong. I had to retype it in the white space here because I cleared the cookies and I spelled it wrong. Try now.

Thanks for telling me!

The more and more you start knowing Obama, more and more scary it gets.

Oh so much like George McGovern in so many ways. Only McGovern was a gentleman. It was his sycophants that got him a 38% in the GE.

Obama will never be president.

So his past so far appears to be insignificant and of no consequence.

I will go ahead and add that whatever we know about his past so far is more problematic from the practical considerations of winning the presidency.

Every job in the world requires a resume and you get the job depending on how strong it is. It is beyond belief that this man is getting away with what he has done (or not done). His supporters are putting this country and their party in peril.

Maybe so, to some degree, but do not forget that out of the masses of the SDS came the few in the Weather Underground who did not feel that their agendas were being met, thus the terror that resulted from the few!

Took only a few to do all that distruction on 911, took only a few to do the distruction in Oklahoma.

The learning from the ’60′s was a simple one, create a movement and from it will always be those who are not satisfied.

And do not forget, the SDS is still active today!

Those of us that do remember those days know how the things that we believed in were distorted until we could no longer believe. And then like now we were told “if you’re not part of the solution, you’re part of the problem.” The problem with that attitude is that the only solution considered by those that utter those words, is the solution they believe is best.

For many of us those that hi-jacked a peace movement and made it violent are an enemy we will never forget or forgive.

Ayers and Dohrn are two of the most egregious. They both should have been put behind bars and kept there for a very long time.

The first time I heard Barack Obama say “we are the ones we’ve been waiting for I knew I could never support him.

I cannot, I will not ever vote for a Republican, but I cannot and will not vote for some Media Darling that I think of as a cult leader. I’m a Democrat, a lifelong Democrat who has been voting for Democrats, good, bad and ugly for 40 years. But I draw the line here.

You know Larry….You’re right…I’m 47 about Barry’s age….I remember what I remember through a combination of childhood memories ( my folks arguing with my sister about why she could’nt go to Woodstock ) and how my friends brother was killed in Viet Nam…The thing is I remember enough…I know the difference betweena real movement and a phony one…I was lucky enough to have good teachers in College…((many of whom were involved). I do remember the fear that the Weather Underground inspired….I’m grateful that you guys speak TRUTH TO POWER and always have….I’m just sayin’….Even those of us who were babies know the difference between a phony and the real thing.

I loved the “Hope Bong”!

Agree….BABY-O is headed for POLITICAL OBLIVION….

And the more your BS-o-meter goes into the Red Zone!

educated is spelled wrong – that’s probably why it appears available.

What is frightening, is that the Weather Underground did not have the internet. If you factor in the internet’s ability to unite people all over th world in an instant, and recruit, and be faceless and anonymous, it’ a recipe for disaster. So, there is definitely a danger of repeating the WU experience, only exponentially becase of instant communications. Somehow the most deranged ideas and movements seem less so when wrapped in an internet community.

I cannot, I will not ever vote for a Republican, but I cannot and will not vote for some Media Darling that I think of as a cult leader. I’m a Democrat, a lifelong Democrat who has been voting for Democrats, good, bad and ugly for 40 years. But I draw the line here.

Barack Obama has made it clear that he is not a Democrat in the Jacksonian/Wilsonian/Roosevelt/Truman tradition. He is not a Democrat. I don’t know what he is, and nobody outside of his VERY inner circle knows either.

If I lived in a competitive state, I would vote for McCain over Obama. As an American, I’d have to.

Living in a state Hillary might have made competitive, I will write in her name if I can’t vote for her.

Yes, it occurs to me teletubbies are not warriors.

It seems rather apparent, but strangely, many miss this pertinent fact.

I just see teletubbies, every time these wannabe warriors “attack.”

You know, plump little old men running around in circles, speaking gibberish, unable to find their targets, or a clue.

Oh, wait, that’s Cheney’s staff.

Sorry.

Want more…..Go to the Vatican Website or the Catholic Encyclopedia and you can learn all you want about LIBERATION THEOLOGY….Wright’s version is Afrocentric but basically the same ol’ shit….

None of the Obamabrats could spend a day without their Ipods or their cell phones. “Revolution?” Not if they have to do without something. That’s not what they signed on for. They think that sacrifice is for someone else.

Flineo

Extraordinary! Thank you. You hit it right on the head! That is what I have been saying to my son, 24, Obamatized Berkeley graduate who tells me Ayers was an “American Hero” because he read his book.

rise Hillary rise

Flineo, I just have to say again, your video was fantastic! Im sending it to my son right now. Maybe he will “get it”

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IN5StQAr7n0&feature=related

THIS GUY IS NUTS

I DON,T BELEVE IT

DID THIS HAPPEN IN AMERICA ???

IS HE STILL TEACHING SOMEWHERE????

good grief… and people wonder why the “trust no one over 25″ slogan is making a comeback.

Rather ironic that was the typo, yup. Well at least it wasn’t EDUCAMATED.

It was the same with my generation, and Reagan kids.

They fucked up, big time.

We knew they were stupid then, and here, given control, they trashed the country, like we knew they would.

We knew they would, we knew exactly what they were going to do, exactly.

Wish that were true….Me…My kid has been taught to use her head…She is voting for Hillary…

don,t mean to butt into ur bussiness ..thats a good idea.i will do that too with my sister who is a obamabot…..

but also have ur son share the video with others too ,,,,and have him listen to hillary speeches,,,

The Children are bored. Obama offers them rallies and excitement. How clever of him.

Unfortunately, the history of the world tells us of many charismatics who took their swooning chanting followers straight to hell. And this guy would not be an exception. You can see the similarities to the Ayers era. The hatred. The spitting. The insults. The filth. The disrespect for adults of all kinds. The threat of violence. It’s all there, compliments of Barack Obama.

That is why he will never be president. Adults don’t let children pick presidents. Especially not adults who Remember.

His father was a Marxist, Barak (sic) wrote some very interesting marxist white papers for Africa.

i was in 8th grade in the bay area, cutting school, and marching with bobby seals, huey newton, and angela davis. i’m not black, but i was marching with the panthers. and there were all the marches against the vietnam war.
RIGHT ON BROTHER! RIGHT ON!…whatever…

i was an angst ridden youth, finding brotherly love and understanding in the revolution. YEAH IT CAN HAPPEN.

AND YES, OBAMA AND HIS HANDLERS, ARE KNOWINGLY EXPLOITING IT…
they have the NEW, and the OLD, dreamers on board.
I UNDERSTAND THE NEW, BUT COME ON ‘OLD’, you look ridiculous trying to be young and relevant like that again… its embarrassing…

Good video but I don’t believe they will get the same emotions this time. Otherwise Dennis K or John E would be winning right now.

No one is being drafted to fight this illegal war. (thank GOD)

jmo.

Here’s a guy who awaits the return of Ayers and Dohrn.

that little line of yours was clever 35 years ago.

In so many ways the Obama campaign has divided us again into white and black. I was in my preteen and teen age years during the civil rights marches and the struggles of the sixties. I was born in the first year of the baby boom. So I remember those years very well.

I have thought for some time that Obama’s campaign has in so many ways moved us backwards. While there is still racism and hatred in the country, it is no longer socially acceptable to be overtly racist. And more than that, most Americans today welcome and celebrate diversity in this country.

In the 60’s I saw civil rights activists, black and white, clubbed, hosed, bombed, attacked with dogs, murdered and saw and heard the hatred every night on the news.

I marched. I was my church’s representative on an all city civil rights committee. I was on my school’s committee to help make sure that the desegregation of the school district I taught for occurred peacefully. I fully supported the civil rights agenda.

I never dreamed back in the sixties that in my life time I would live to see an all white jury convict white men in the gruesome murder of a back man in Texas. But I did.

Are there still barriers? Yes. But there are all sorts of barriers, including the glass ceiling for women.

Is there still much to be done in achieving racial equality? Certainly. Society and civilization is always evolving. We can always do better.

But many of Obama’s supporters and his campaign in general are very quick to call anyone who supports Hillary, or anyone who disagrees with Obama, or anyone who gives Obama a hard time racist. I find that very offensive.

Martin Luther King dreamed of a day when all men were judged by the content of their character, not the color of their skin. Well I do not judge Obama on the color of his skin. But I find him sorely lacking in character.

Obama has called the Clinton’s racist when they did so much for all people in this country. I can’t see how they get away with this crap. The media turn a blind eye and do not answer those charges with the truth. You could criticize the Clintons on several fronts or issues. But the one thing they are NOT is racist. And that Obama has created this myth is unconscionable.

And now today even I am called racist because I do not support one particular black candidate, even though I have supported, worked for, and helped elect many black candidates in my life, and have worked for racial justice.

Obama is exploiting race and using his young followers who have so little understanding of the facts of history and the long struggle for equality starting with the drafting of the U.S. Constitution forward, just to get elected. That is the most cowardly, despicable, cynical, and unconscionable misuse of race I have ever seen.

Obama is a divider, not a uniter.

On this alone he does not deserve to be President of the United States.

They are’nt being drafted yet….Pentagon is gearing up for re-installing the draft….Have’nt you been paying attention….

I think they are either using that line in a viagra ad or an ad for men’s hair coloring … just sayin’

LOL! We had a Obie person come thru here not too long ago bragging on how he had an SDS safe house, and professing “Remember Kent State!”. I envisioned him, the old hippy longing for the old days, bald on top, hair hanging down from the back of his head. Longing for excitement and “love” he hasn’t had since the Old Violent Days, and all those things in the normal sense are missing mostly because of himself.

It’s a “movement,” alright. The kind that should be FLUSHED.

oh and i was one of those who was stuck on the NY Throughway ..and didn’t make it to Woodstock..but we had a ball in the farm fields along the NY Throughway..but i am not telling any of my secrets…lol!!

I salute you Bert……Have courage…..

Yes and another thing I just realized I must consider……… only 17 percent of Obiwan’s people say they WON’T vote for HILLARY if she’s the candidate.

That’s pretty small. I wouldn’t want to piss off the others that will be willing to flock to this camp after she crushes him with the final blow in Puerto Rico.

right? 17 percent is much smaller than the passion over here (myself included I won’t vote for him).

just saying

No but you can look forward to seeing the National Guard in the streets again. People are going to die for this Faux Messiah.

all hell will break loose!

they KNOW It!!

What is frightening, is that the Weather Underground did not have the internet

But given what a klutz Obama, and even Ayers are, is that really, in retrospect, a threat?

No, it’s not.

As the District Attorney put it, while on Lou Dobbs, “Of all the people who have bombed the Pentagon, I’m sure Ayers is the nicest” he’s just one in a long line of terrorist morons, isn’t he?

So why would the psychology of a hacker, or a cyberterrorist, be any more threatening, given, even, how they tried to hack NQ, and their inability to understand how they’re being gamed, maybe baited into an attack? Someone brought up Obama and Alinsky, purposely making people angry to keep them confused, but who is angry and confused here? Obama, and the gangstas, right, shot with their own guns?

That’s what I call DUMB.

Even Cheney, with all his attempts to squash the Constitution, failed, that whole neocon group, nothing more than a flat tire.

And I understand people have died unnecessarily under Cheney’s watch, but that’s between Cheney and God, and maybe the Hague.

I was curious enough to send this to my son (27 yrs). He isn’t a follower, but he has also taken a “stay-back-away-from-it-all” approach (all sides) from the beginning. I just sent him the link to this blog post/video and told him I want to hear his take after he watches and reads.

Ben Stein was an honorary Black Panther for Christ’s sake … he looked like the missing Marx brother. I repeat … none of Barry’s kids is going to give up one material thing to follow him any where. Sacrificing is not what they came for. They are in this for the free Dave Matthews tickets …. they don’t remember what came after the Summer of Love.

Hmmm……Maybe…..I think a lot of them will turn around and run….Either way these children have no idea who they are dealing with….

Powerful.

I just hope history isn’t repeating itself.

well I sure hope you are wrong (this time)

I’m going to see Hillary tonight here. The people around here I’m talking too have no clue of the inner workings of all of this.

Most of them don’t WANT to know. lol

It will be interesting to see how they react to this new Wright ad the GOP launched. I’ve not caught it yet on local TV so they must not be running it too much.

Thanks for the brilliant Video Flineo…just great!!

oh and i was one of those who was stuck on the NY Throughway ..and didn’t make it to Woodstock..but we had a ball in the farm fields along the NY Throughway..in a VW Bug…but i am not telling any of my secrets…lol!!

fly

If by some awful turn of events, Hillary does not get the nomination, I will not vote for McCain, and I will not vote for Obama, I will write in Hillary’s name. That’s what I’m going to do.

Yup and it was wrong then and it’s wrong now. I had to turn 26 to figure that out.

shake the cobwebs out of your head Kevin, please. We are trying to show you something very important to your future. Seriously, here. Wisdom is only useless when you have none yet.

Heard it during the last performance by Petraeus….If the GOP regains
a significant majority in congress it will happen…If the WH too…Count on draftng for the new CRUSADE and it will be a draft of both sexes and the republicans will spin it as equal oppurtunity….The Left are not the only ones who seek to learn from the past….McInsane will make NIxon look like a lightweight and Canada will close her borders…I’m just sayin….

http://themoderatevoice.com/politics/negative-campaigning/19112/10-hillary-positives-for-those-still-undecided/

ITS NICE ARTICLE FOR ALL UNDECIDERS …

PLS POST IT AND SHARE IT WITH …..TAYLORMARSH ,,,FRIENDS TOO

AND WITH ,,MYDD,,,,FRIENDS

There is an underground movement prepared to help you with that.

I would also continue my blog and offer free using of my diaries like now to help defeat him. The hits are huge now, mostly thanks to NQ. I just haven’t made up my mind which will make a bigger statement: voting for McCain or writing in Hillary. Either is acceptable, voting for Obama is not.

there were only two things I ever envied my ex for:

his musical talent and going to wood stock … admittedly, I hate the mud, but hey … I can dream

Here, then, are 10 reasons for a Democrat to prefer Hillary to any other candidate.

1. Hillary grasps economic concepts: knowledge a president will need in January — given our nation’s debt, job loss, credit crunch, recession….
2. Hillary has a plan to get us out of Iraq, a plan that the 34 flag rank military officers who endorsed Hillary also find impressive.
3. Hillary has a health care plan that offers the broadest coverage for Americans.

ditto!

It won’t. He will never be president. Unfortunately, like McGovern, he will marginalize the party again for decades.

4. Hillary’s Senate committee assignments encompass a wide array of issues — including veterans affairs, education, military issues, labor, health, and the environment — which give her a solid foundation from which to help shape public policy.
5. Hillary understands foreign policy and has dealt with officials from dozens of other nations. This will be useful, as our nation tries to solve problems with nations of the Middle East, Africa, South America, Europe….
6. Hillary has broad support among American voters, evinced by her wins in the primaries of big states (e.g., California and New York) and swing states (e.g., Florida and Ohio). In short, Hillary’s in a good position to compete with John McCain.
7. Hillary has demonstrated concern for fellow Americans — starting with her civil rights activities during college and her work during the seven years after college, which she devoted to public service (instead of taking her Yale law degree straight to lucrative arenas).

The good pastor Wright is speaking before the Nat’l. Press Corp….That will be interesting….

Well, your kid is voting for Hillary, so it must be true, she’s smart.

LOL.

8. Hillary has broad life experience. As well as public service, she has experience in private law practice and the corporate realm, which gives her the perspective needed to help reconcile our nation’s many competing interests.
9. Hillary has learned how to get things done in Washington, both as a second-term senator and as a First Lady. For seven years, she has worked with members of Congress, some of whom had been nasty to her family. Hillary put aside the personal stuff and worked on getting things done.
10. Hillary is strong, resilient, and tenacious. She has faced more scrutiny and ugly attacks than most politicians, yet she’s still standing. Better than that, she’s still fighting. That’s the spirit a president needs in order to solve the many grave problems our nation faces. (BNPolitics)
The next president is going to have a hard, nasty slog cleaning up after Bush. Why put Obama through it? He only thinks he wants to be president right now because he hasn’t seen close-up with the job involves. Save him and his glamour and aura and fabulousness for the next election cycle, after he’s shown that he can stand up to harsh scrutiny as well as Hillary.

“Of all the people who have bombed the Pentagon, I’m sure Ayers is the nicest” he’s just one in a long line of terrorist morons, isn’t he?

With one exception…he was able to rally the children to do things unthinkable.

Larry,

Logging on to my morning west-coast session, this profoundly powerful
video greeted me. Thank-you for posting it.

Like the commentator before me, I’m 47 and the youngest of 6 children. As a late baby, my older siblings were all teenagers and draft-age adults during these turbulent times. As you all might imagine, I was greatly effected by their reactions to the social environment they found themselves in. I will NEVER forget my mother crying at the news of MLK, and I will NEVER forget my sisters bursting into each bedroom of the house screaming in virtual hysteria that Bobby Kennedy was just shot.

The Revolution may not be televised, but it sure as hell always eats it’s own, this I learned from Robespierre.

As a student of history, it is not linear, it is indeed cyclical and this fine
effort by Flineo illustrates the point.

Yes, when it comes to inspiration, we must give Barrack his due and then-some, yet I cannot caste Hillary as HHH in this full circle drama.

Nor can I ignore the Nixon re-election results of 1972, even though George McGovern was a decent, decent man. I wonder if the first-time voters of today will live to see THIS political era in re-run.

That’s rhetorical, I know they will.

I’ll trust you when you pay for your own health care and meds and pay for a home mortgage , and do something for this nation and the society you are lucky enough to live in..

call me when you accomplish that!!

fly

http://www.attacktimeline.com/

PUT THIS LINK EVERYWHERE,,,,,LIKE ,,,FOX,,MSNBC,,,NYTIMES,,,HUFF,,,,YOUTUBE,,,,MYDD,,,,TAYLORMARSH ,,

let people see how positive(ha)(so not) has barack hussien obama been ………..

I think that most follks that say they are undecided really are’nt…Intimidation makes voices speak softly…It shows up at the polls..My thought is to simply ask these people if they would like an ADULT in the WH…..Clinton is the only ADULT runnin on the democratic side….

HAHAHA. Yup. You know some of them. They are pushing 30 and still home with their parents so that they can spend their own money appearing “upscale”. After they finish sucking dry their parents’ 401ks, then they will vote to eliminate their own parents’ social security.

I immigrated from Central American to San Francisco in 1964. I was 16 years old. The culture change was extraordinary. I did not know that the U.S. was going through a metamorphosis because there was nothing to compare it with. It was a ride. I’m still a hippie at heart in SF. BO says nothing to me because I’ve heard from the best and experienced the changing world that makes his nomination a possibility. But I know that although words and ideas are a good start, they don’t change the world without action. HRC statements that it took LBJ to get the legislation JFK dreamed resonated with me.
Go Hillary!

sorry Kevey lovey..but we are the ones paying the bills for those under 25..so bare with us…or we cut you off!!

fly

Oh wait! Some of them DO move out. Into homes their parents provided the down payment for. They stop home for supper a LOT.

Keep Hillary’s Campaign Energized – Vote Hillary

Who do you predict will win the Indiana Democratic Primary?

http://www.youpolls.com/details.asp?pid=2220

Shake the cobwebs out of my hair???? You’ve got people denigrating the critical thinking abilities of younger people – yet at the same time tryting to educate them?

Come on… you realize that this thread is merely a continuation of the echo chamber you’ve built at this site.

If you’re trying to educate and inform these “kids” then putting them down and denigrating them is not the way to go.

Reach out and educate for pete’s sake

Actually, Kev, for your group, it’s trust no one with an IQ over 125, and it shows…

Really, you dont need to be afraid of smart people…

Now we need to keep on this right track and stay positive both in spirit and in our efforts to support Hillary. Guam (5/3), North Carolina (5/6), Indiana (5/6), West Virginia (5/13), Oregon (5/20), Kentucky (5/20), Montana (6/3), South Dakota (6/3) and Puerto Rico (6/4…here we come!!!

keep sharing info

bring ur neighbors and friends on to hill campaign ,,

keep making calls if u can

I don’t think he’s gotten laid since then either … that’s what he was really ranting about ….

Oh man! If I were Obama I would find a way to keep that psycho locked up! He can’t HELP himself.

And mom and dad have to cosign for the car.

ROFL…..You 2 are great..All I can say is I would’nt vote for someone from my generation….We’s a little fucked up if you get my drift…BABY-O and I are the same age and I think 60 is a good year for us…maybe….DAZED AND CONFUSED is the apt metaphor….chuckle….

Yet another perfect example… you know diddley about me other than what you’ve presumed.

Being as I paid of my mortgage thank you very much, bought a home for my father and am paying his mortgage. Along w/ covering the various expenses and medical costs of other family members I’ll thank you to take your snark elsewhere.

I neither want nor need your trust.

God bless Hillary! God bless America!

Click to light a candle for Hillary:
http://www.gratefulness.org/candles/candles.cfm?l=...

“Agree…..Goebbles 101…..He is a sham…and a facist one at that…..”

That is a sickeningly obnoxious statement. A fascist? Good lord, grow up. Tell that Mussolini and Hitler’s victims.

You’re not paying a damn thing of mine so, spare me your self righteousness

LOL…..Lil Kevin is biting his pillow….methinks…

u r cute

and funny

and so true ,,,,,,

Why is the military so bad?

“Stupid, corrupt” military is bad, but really, other than Obama, can it get any worse for the US than Bush, and Cheney, and their “crews?”

The stupidest, ever, let’s be honest, and be clear.

Everything you have written today would troll a conservative like Cheney into a coma, the shock from the fear would be too much for his little mind to handle. All you would need is a post on raising taxes, and someone would have to call 911.

I think of Bill Kristol using the term “the politics of fear.” And you know whom the politics of fear work the best on, in terms of trolling?

Bill Kristol.

Aye!

“for your group”??? WTF are you babbling about now? PS – if you want to compare IQ’s SAT scores, etc. then fine – I think you’ll find that as usual your presumptions are vastly incorrect

Perhaps they are just reaping what they have sown, Kevin.

After being called a c*nt more than once, my respect level is low, just like your mother or your sister’s respect level would be low.

But the one thing that still remains is, widsom only comes with time. When I was in college, I was a marcher. I also had no concept of whatever those stupid adults were thinking. Their job was to supply me with thing things I didn’t want to pay for. Food, shelter, heat, a car and college. It was only when I grew up a bit that I learned just how out of touch with the real world I had been. I look back and I Remember. I look ahead now and I See.

I watched this pro-Hillary Taking Back the White House video. Enjoy.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iDU9xKNo-zo

Hillary carried his county by more than 70% votes.

Lets email Bob Casey to support Hillary instead of Obama.

http://casey.senate.gov/contact/

I need to read up on the Weather Underground and Black Panthers…I was right on the cusp, at the time, middle school but familiar with the situation. Why on earth were members of these home-grown terrorists allowed to remain in this country? Why weren’t they exiled? After watching this video, it should be very clear to all that Obama has taken his inspiration from these hate filled radicals. And yes, he has taken the children….Ayers has also been in a position to influence. I cannot believe Obama has gotten this far in the election process. I pray it is not too late.

Yeah….you are correct…This shit has been a pain in the ass for the RCC for like 30 yrs…it’s very popular for the elite college crowd….Marx always is especially when you gloss over Stalin and Mao….What’s a few million people anway….

MATTHEWS: Well, that will never sell (referring to Reverand Wright). You don’t blame the crime, at least not the worst crime in modern history since the Holocaust on the victims.

I think we have already heard the most hate-filled speech in this campaign, and it came from Senator Obama’s uncle. If that was okey doke with you, then your shock and outrage is a ruse.

The Tide has turned and all the spinning from the other camp does not change the facts.

We must now really push for Michigan and Florida to be counted as is or for a re-vote primary be set for June! Individual personal emails have a huge impact:

Please email the DNC at this link:
http://www.democrats.org/contact.html

Email House Speaker Pelosi at this link:
http://speaker.house.gov/contact/

Email Senate Leader Harry Reid:
http://reid.senate.gov/contact/index.cfm

Kevin, let me tell you why I tend to gravitate toward you. I see something in you. I see a young guy with some grey matter. I see a guy who kind of is a lot like I was when I was younger. You could be my son. I see in you a struggle a bit different from the hit and run Obam people who come through here to derail. What I see is a young guy who isn’t really exactly all that sure that this Hope-y Change-y thing is on the level. And therefore I will continue to look out for you.

Okay, which one is it – either they’re too lazy and spoiled w/ their iphones and ipods or they’re going to take to the streets in misguided activism.

You’ve hit the nail on the head of every thought/emotion myself and my spouse have had since the primary season began! DITTO DITTO DITTO.

I think we have already heard the most hate-filled speech in this campaign, and it came from Senator Obama’s uncle. If that was okey doke with you, then your shock and outrage is a ruse.

It wasn’t okey doke with me. Neither is calling Senator Obama a fascist, or comparing him to Goebbels. Just because it’s the internet doesn’t mean you just trot out anything, no matter how despicable and untrue.

seems to me i remember the same b.s. from the bush sheeple and bush bots..funny how things just go round and round..

they also werew their mommy and daddy’s keepers!

why if you wanted a movement.. where was your movement to stop this war Kevey?????

I remember well my generations movement..and it was almost destroyed by friends like Obama has ..

but my generation did stop a war..albeit a little late for 56,000 of our peers.

how long are you bgoing to wait..or is building gurur’s more important to your generation and having a Ipod Cult???????

fly

Well….sad to say she is the only one at her highschool who is for Hillary….She just keeps printing up Hillary’s stuff and handing it out…She has become quite a little wonk and has been driving her republican daddy crazy since Gore 2000….It is because of her I have great faith in the younger generation…But we may be movin to Canada….Depending on which way the wind blows…

LOL Kathryn. Is he living home?

Hey Uppity!

I am more superstitious than I thought I was because I have to say

NEVER say NEVER!!

The minute you do that

BAM Karma

lol

In retrospect he was very sad. he said three of his friends died (SDS). The thing that made it sad is I think he felt these deaths were not in vain.

Eh! They were just trying to Win Ben Stein’s Money!

Dennis is a bit off the cliff for me. But John would never have divided this country like this.

I have a three year old niece.

When she repeats bad things that she hears and is punished for it, my sister and her husband try to self edit.

You introduce a phrase to discredit someone here — me, I think. Then I send it back to you to show you how ridiculous it is and your response is, that your posting garbage here is somehow MY fault? Sorry. Maybe that works with the adults you know because they some how feel guilty that they didn’t pay enough attention to you or gave you things instead of time, or whatever. But I don’t have any moral responsibility for your screwy thinking. I believe that at some point, you’re your own person and the critical thinking should click in on its own if you’ve been paying attention.

Just one woman’s opinion.

No one pampered my ass.

while there are a lot of kids out there with the attitude:

“Their job was to supply me with thing things I didn’t want to pay for. Food, shelter, heat, a car and college.”

There are many more who don’t. I “was a marcher” in college – less marching in my day than yours, but even then I didn’t think like that. I paid my way through college, etc. turned down a scholarship so someone who needed it more than I did could go to school. I definitely don’t think I was a rare case… I met and knew a lot more responsible and selfless people at the time…

It’s all in what you’re taught (at home, school, etc.).

For the longest time I have been wondering why I have felt such strong feelings against Obama. His campaign has railed me up more than Lewinsky, Iraq, and the incredible fraudulence of GWB.

I came of age in the late 60′s in LA near UCLA and witnessed the whole turbulent 60′s unfold on TV and in my neighborhood. The SDS leaflets in high school, the protest rallies, dead and wounded friends from war, the drugs, the moral belief that we knew what was best for the country and that we were going to change it.

I don’t remember hope lasting very long. Instead, the violence and disillusionment, drugs and reality got in the way. Some managed to hold on to their young ideals but most slowly bought back into the system becoming a newer version of their mostly middle class parents. From my perspective the Weather Underground and other violent youth organizations destroyed the “dream”.

Looking back as an older typical white woman who has had to carry a 41 mag in a shoulder holster for survival, who has lived on food stamps and the life of a rich white person, who has withstood sexual discrimination and harassment that would net me hundreds of thousands of dollars in legal settlements in this day and age, who has worked hard, demeaning jobs to get through college and graduate school, who is now struggling to survive because of the chemical industry, health industry and the failed government agencies created to monitor these industries, looking back after all this and more I feel I can honestly say I don’t want another movement. I want someone who can work the system, who has been hardened and strengthened by adversity, who knows how to choose their battles, who has developed humility through recognition of human failings. I don’t want words I want actions.

I look at Obama and he scares the s**t out of me. It feels like the run up to Iraq. That people are dismissing Ayers and Rev Wright and not seeing the connection to the age old adage “you are the friends who you keep” is beyond me. That the democratic party wants to go down this road without cleaning off the rear view mirror saddens me.

I hitched a ride last time. You can count me out on this one.

None if it.

If they wanted you to know, you would.

Read up on the international development of terrorism…Paris and Berlin..and of course PLO….It’s imporant reading…splains alot…

That’s the way I feel too Marsha. I have voted for a Democrat in every election for 40 years, the good, the bad, and the ugly.

After I held my nose and voted for John Kerry, whom I loathed, and he did not fight for every vote out of Ohio I knew I wasn’t about to be guilted into voting for anyone I could not enthusiastically support ever again.

I’m sure if an election came down to Hillary and McCain in any state she would fight for every last vote, just like she’s doing now. That’s showing respect for the people that voted for you. Kerry disrespected the voters of Ohio and should never be forgiven for that.

As for Obama, I’m not sure he’d fight for anything. He doesn’t even have the guts to debate her again after ABC was so mean to him. Not CIC material IMO.

Don’t forget the laundry.

Thank you for your voice of Recognition of what we are witnessing.

http://www.hillaryis44.com/

nice site for more info anf blog

Well, that explains why the little prince is taking the day off.

Jeff….Take your unity patch off your brown shirt and shove it in you ear….Which is where your ass is…..

heyyyy…uppity and Beebop..are you two talking about me???????? lmao…

I know i have that 30 yr old i am still helping out..but ..geee…he at least lives on the other coast…and has his independence!!..( except for my check book)

and to think..i used to drive around with a bumper sticker that said..”I had to raise a teenager to know how utterly stupid I am!!”

it could say..I had to raise a college student and pay for them till their 30′s…..

fly ..giggling..but not really funny!!

Ah see! Perhaps this is why I follow you around. I knew I saw something different in you. I think you are searching. I think you are not all that certain, are you now?

I also know you are not the rule, but the exception. The Rule is living all around me at my frazzled friends’ homes.

I agree with you. Obama is many things but he is most definitely not a fascist. I deplore the way that word gets carelessly thrown around. Wolfowitz, Cheney and Rumsfeld come close to being fascist-minded with the neocon philosophy and their bizarre Pax Americana. I can’t get a fix on Obama’s actual political philosophy because he picks and chooses from among many radical thinkers. From the neoliberal free-market Friedmanite economics of his chief economic advisor Goolsbee to personal mentoring and admitted father-son relationship with Communist Party USA member Frank Marshall. Obama is ideologically all over the map — and that makes me nervous.

SATs won’t matter in twenty years Kevin. If they did, I would be governor. Nobody asks. They watch but they don’t ask. I have so much education it’s laughable, Kevin. I know that’s no surprise to you. But nobody ever asks me anymore where I went to school or what my SAT scores were. It’s just me now–and what I do.

Is this kind of stuff really necessary? Don’t we want to help Hillary to victory by reasonably showing why Obama is wrong for this country? I don’t understand why many on the Clinton side are now employing the same dirty online tactics that made most of us so disgusted at Huffpo and Kos.

We can win our argument with facts. We don’t have to insult people. How does that help our cause?

Heard it on NPR this morning…Diane Rehm show….THE GOOD REV. WRIGHT IS PREACHIN TO THE PRESS CORP….

there is no national guard left for our streets!!

but blackwater mercenaries..that is another story for another day!!

fly

…FOR SO LONG IT’S NOT TRUE!

My nieces and nephews still don’t get why I laugh so hard at that movie by the same name!

Some are obviously ready to throw the baby-boomers out with their bathwater, I counter with that other pop-culture reference a la The Gladiator, “someday, but not yet”…

OMG ROFLOL

I sent that one ALL AROUND!! TOO funny!

The two are not mutually exclusive….Intellectual laziness and following DER LEADER hmmmmm…….Surely this has not happned before….Bite your pillow Kevin…..

I think she will take Indiana. And he will take North Carolina.

Bob Casey is already a has been and will get booted out asap….waste of time….

Curang! Curang! Interesting how this word is one of the first Obama learned in Indonesia and was well known for yelling it at just about anyone for anything. It means “cheater”… oh, the irony.

It’s not about the color of his skin. It’s about the CONTENT of his character.

Thanks for the post, Larry.

OOOOHHHHHH……JUICY…..That made my day…Who’s barry’s daddy now.

Today is my birthday. I am 55. This man scares me! The difference between now and then (re the video), is that back then there was less “wrong” information being BEATEN into you from internet, TV, radio, newspaper. I think the youth of today are more of a cult than back then we were actually “thinking” about it for ourselves… It’s hard to explin….
But obama says in one speech… “…we will remake this country; we will remake the world”. This is SCARY. This sounds a little too dictatorial… He is explioting people’s ignorance and fear. Barack Obama is a dangerous man.

Agree with you on IN….Still waitin on NC…His refusal to debate won’t play well with the crackers….Time will tell….

MSNBC says it all

This is the % of white working class voters won in each state, notice Obama wins it 4 times and look just where, lol.

Obama had an advantage among whites who make less than $50,000 in Wisconsin, Illinois, Utah and Vermont.

But in every single state he won big, he lost white voters worse. Just look.

CLINTON OBAMA
VT 36 61
IL 46 51
WI 48 50
UT 38 49
NM 49 47
CT 52 41
TX 58 41
MD 57 40
CA 50 39
NY 61 37
AZ 56 35
MO 60 35
VA 61 35
GA 62 35
MA 63 34
PA 66 33
RI 67 31
NH 47 31
DE 68 30
OH 69 28
LA 60 27
NJ 73 25
MS 68 24
AL 74 23
TN 69 22
SC 40 19
OK 72 19

i saw this on other website (pro-hill)

so i am pasting it here ,,,we know only hill can win the white house

And here is the critical point for us today. Barack Obama has not surrounded himself with those who represent and espouse the views and vision of Dr. King. He has cast his lot with the likes of Jeremiah Wright and William Ayers. The hope he offers is not the hope of Dr. King. Dr. King saw beyond skin color. Barack has embraced a religious movement that is Africentric and prone to sharpen divisions between black and white. That’s a movement I can live without.

That makes two of us, Larry. Now get outta my face, Loony-Lefty Barry.

larry i must respectfully disagree with you when you include the SDS with the weather groups (variations 1, 2, and 3) and the black panthers. at no time, did the SDS endorse violent overthrow of the government … just the opposite … it was because most of the insiders supported the non violent tenets of dr king that the SDS finally crashed and burnt.

i also must point out that i speak of this through my own experiences … i grew up quaker, morphed into the free speech movement and eventually came to the SDS like many others … to join together to stop the madness of war … especially when it came to vietnam and the cold war including the nucelar arms race. like many, during this time, i despaired when former allies turned to violence and became what they professed to hate so much. they and other likes them sat back the eventual withdrawal from vietnam by at least three years.

once again larry, let stress this is only my opinion … as humble as it must be.

WU, BP were idiots, as I recall. (And sexist, to boot — as was SDS.)

On the other hand, there were lots of positive parts to the 60′s, at least until all the assassinations . . .

BO is not about 60′s mentality, there’s too much of a sense of ego and entitlement — like some guy who thinks he’s a shoo-in for Prom King.

Hmmmm…….Kevin….I did’nt have time to march for squat in college….I worked full time in college and put myself through school until I earned scholarships and even then I worked through school….I’ve been working since I was 16…
I don’t think you have a clue about the working class…All we do is mow your lawn and clean your vacation home…
BABY-O is a sham…the closest that man ever came to suffering is the cheap high he got off community organizing…..He is a classic pretender….Now return to biting your pillow….

Yes you sent a bell off in my head. Actually the weatherman broke off of SDS didn’t it? I mean they became separate. Originally they were part of SDS but then the fragment group morphed into the more violent Weather Underground,right? I am trying to remember here.

Thankfully my 27 yr old is strongly for HILLARY

Has her OWN place w/roommate
A pretty good job, owns her car, is bi-racial, btw!

Adores her Granny (more than MOM sometimes, lol)

AND she’s volunteering tonight for the rally for Hillary!!

I couldn’t ask for more from a child. She’s had a job since she was 16 and rarely complains. Of course she sees her Mom surviving a disability so that has made her more realistic I think.

Want to see the dirty tricks he plays?? i saw this link and was absolutely furious! The man signed excuse notes for two kids to get out of school- somebody else’s kids! If they were my kids, i would be suing his ass.

http://www.suntimes.com/news/politics/obama/913104,CST-NWS-diner24.stng

True that ….FDR could beat him in a stare down….BABY-O is already a political has been….Now is just the vigil….

I’m 54, remember wearing black armbands in a Catholic high school in 1969 to protest the war… half of the nuns wore them as well. The Weathermen inspired nothing but anger, hatred and fear. If they stood for anything deeper than just anarchy and fear, I never heard about it.

I hear all the time from Obama followers about a “movement”. No one has ever explained that one in terms of say human rights, or help for the poverty stricken, no. Obama has nothing in his platform that would be called a “movement”. Kind of makes me wonder, when I hear that kind of talk, what in hell are they referring to? If Larry is right, then all the more reason we should fight to flush Barry and his movement now, for good.

I did know women who were part of SDS, to be honest. In fact, at the university I attended at the time, a female was one of the SDS leaders. I can’t remember if this was the case throughout the country though. Benardine Dohrn sure had no problem helping to lead all that violence. She was easily has horrible a rabble rouser as Ayers. No wonder they married each other.

Agreed….I was a product of the NEW MATH….nuff said..chuckle

That’s been the case for YEARs. I was asked if I were interested in being on a draft board several years ago. Of course I said No. Draft boards are definitely in place.

Yes and the care must be replaced every two years. Insurance is on parents’ tab. And the cell phone is on mom and dad’s account, right?

Ehemmm……Also M16′s were not readily available….another difference…

Right On!

If Barack understood what it is, that it was possible for him to run as a black candidate, and for Sen. Clinton as a woman, to be running for the office of the presidency of USA, are late heros like Medgar Evers, Martin Luther King and Bobby Kennedy are among the most prominent and best-known to have died for something, then he will not be trivialising IT, he should have been to Tavis event in New Orleans and at the sport where Dr. M. L. King took his last breath and honoured the MAN.

Barack has no understanding of all that, because he did not understood IT. If he has the understanding of IT, he would have make sure that the vote in Michgan and Florida are counted. HE DOES NOT UNDERSAND IT. It is just a game to him.

OMG Yes!

Ok here’s one. My cousin’s son got married, they paid for the wedding, had no input whatever. He got divorced within a year, moved back home. Now he wants a house and asked them to help out. He has a great job but spends all his money on himself. He even comes home for lunch. He’s 31!

ditto.

Agree…..This is why MLK speaks to us all for the ages…Ghandi anyone…
BABY-O is a heartless imposter who cynically manipulates and appropriates.

…but before they throw the boomers out, they want to spend down their retirement funds for them.

Larry, I am not sure 53 is the cut off year. May be because of the draft…

Certianly I agree with your point of Yin and Yang and how they connect with our current times.

ROFL Fly! Now I know who you are! You live next door to me! hahahahahah.

I hear the trend is they will be gone by 40. By then you should still be able to walk. You won’t have any money though because then you get to mail the checks wherever they are!

VIDEO! I WANT VIDEO!

Brilliant…..One of my daughters friends who was underage showed up to caucus for him in Texas….When my daughter confronted her and explained about VOTER FRAUD she just shrugged….She was with a bunch of her friends…We filed a complaint with our local precinct….Over 2000 complaints of voter fraud and intimidation in the texas stumble…I’m not surprised by this article at all…..

You will continue to go to work, smack your head and say Man! What did I do!

THEY…….will take to the streets WITH the IPODs. But only if they don’t miss the party later.

Karma is not going to be good to this guy.

thanks, Laurie.

Agree……Only OPRAH can save him…

fascist-minded with the neoLIB philosophy,

Take John Deans book and flip it on Barak’s “world”. Instead of Con use LIB it does not matter what side of the coin it is on. It is what it is.
Deal with it.

Oh…..I’m sorry….How very working class of me….

Look it up in the dictionary….BABY-O fits 2 out of 3 criteria….Facists are usually proud to be identified….Sorry if the word upsets your delicate psuedo liberal sensibilities…Perhaps you will go back to camp now and bite your pillow….

Uppity

Thank God no. He’s attending the Monterey Institite on a Merit Scholarship. He’s a good kid but very idealistic, just like I was at his age! I am wearing him down, he’s taking economics and isn’t too keen on Obama’s economic plan and thought it was sexist when he played 99 problems when he lost NH, so there’s still hope I can deprogram him by November..

He seems to conflate the good and bad aspects of the Peace Movement rather than seeing the distinctions I do from having been there. The hijacking of the Peace Movement by the violent WU and others has not been forgotten by many of us, 40 years gone by haven’t lessened my distain for their actions.
Im so happy to have found this blog and all of you. All the blogs I used to visit went Obama on me.

help for the poverty stricken,

I can’t understand why BO’s Rev wright’s house cost 1.6 million and contrasting that with truly poor people. It does not jive…

Obama08 = McGovern72 – MA

Ehemmm…….Kevin….Tell your working class house staff why you support the BABY-O…..

Soylent Green….Ouch….Horde the rice….

I’m sure someone will have a nifty tiny japanese somthin to take illicite video….We can only hope…

That he personally knows Ayers–on the face of it.

It’s a million to one thing IMHO.

Also you have to wonder if Ayers was a an agent provocateur. How the fuck did he get away with masterminding the bombings?

( sigh )….True that Bert…

here’s the kicker.

where did the WU go?

Did it go away? Or did it retransform itself up there iwth Ayers and Dohrn in some way.

as i recall hillary worked as an attorney for congress during watergate. it seems to be that she has some real creds from that period also.

LOL!

The 60′s had a duality which is hard to come to terms with. In some ways it was a peaceful and prosperous time in the nation as well as in our souls and yet it was one of the most violent decades in our history. Vietnam–the immoral war continued, the 1965 Civil Rights Act was supposed to secure prosperity in the AA communities instead caused rioting in our cities. President Johnson was confused by this. He fought very hard along with MLK to bring this act to completion. He is known to have said to a subordinate. I gave them what they wanted — why do they hate me?

Then there was the Weather Underground and the Black Panthers who took advantage of the upheavel to do everything they could to destroy the underpinings of this nation. Did any of them ever go to prison? Why were some pardoned and why was Ayers never tried for his crimes? However, the worst act for me was when the National Guard fired on the Kent State students. Nothing had so sickened the American People as the sight of our military firing on American students. The 60′s were officially over off came the love beads and the floppy hats and we settled in with Nixon (for a while).

So the music was great — the economy was strong –the young people out in the streets for civil rights, human rights, women’s right and demonstrating to end the Vietnam War were all good things. I prefer to remember those times for the good which was accomplished.

the real question is how did they get their jobs? answer ayer’s daddy had some pull and got the jobs for them. dohrn has a criminal background, so who would hire her? pull!

Laurie — we know one thing about Obama and that is he doesn’t like white workers. That really terrifies me.

true smilin jim — However, I believe we could have elected Bobby Kennedy and this world might have been a different place.

Its a shame youth is wasted on the young. God I would love to be marching now — damn arthritic knees.

The good news out of PA is that he didn’t get Youth Vote he thought he would get. Perhaps they are getting bored with him–fingers crossed.

I wrote a paper about the Weathermen when I was a sophmore in high school in 1973. I started off thinking they were this misunderstood, kind of romantic group of idealistic heroes. What can I say, I was 16 and at that time it was pretty hard to find information for someone in a small rural town to find current information.

By the time I finished the paper, I hated them all and wanted them thrown in jail forever. I had two brothers in the military, one in Vietnam, at the time.

tell you , kev, why don’t you hustle your bussle over to bombat central!

Blackwater mercenaries were in New Orleans hired by DHS.

OT: Flyarm which vets org?

big deal! most of us have done that also. so stop patting yourself on the back.

Da man’s in charge and its same old same old. 250 Million to sell a guy who has accomplished nothing. Jesus wept.

hey kev, if you are so smart why aren’t you doing real critical thinking? wondering?

kenosha — yes — I wonder if Ayers and Weather Underground weren’t sent to destroy the Peace Movement because it was soooooo threatening.

I believed that slogan when I was young but now the young should trust us — we have been here and done that.

OH, kev, your group lost three wars, and you support Obama.

YOU ALONE have shown SAT scores don’t mean shit.

And we thank you, we could not have discredited that system without the high achievers failing so catastrophically, like you.

So, keep trolling shithead.

“For your group” is a vernacular.

A smart troll would have understood.

Shithead, you are quite the ops, aren’t you?

don’t forget washing the clothes for these slugs.

Frankly, I hate to see the Weatherpeople Underground grouped with the SDS or even the Black Panthers, for that matter. The Weatherpeople Underground were domestic terrorists, pure and simple. The SDS were radicals, as were the Black Panthers. A friend of mine pointed out that Tom Hayden had been his state senator in California and was also a past president of the SDS. Sure, Tom Hayden, Todd Gitlin, and others were affiliated with the SDS back in the 60′s, but I don’t think that ANY of them were implicated in bombings or armed robberies, as was the case with the Weatherpeople Underground.

What I am most disturbed about is Obama’s association with Bill Ayers and Bernadine Dohrn. I still recall how the GOP beat up John Kerry for his days as an anti-war activist who appeared at the same venue with “Hanoi Jane”, and heaven knows, the worst thing that Jane Fonda ever did was travel to Hanoi when we were at war with North Vietnam. And Kerry himself expressed his own disgust with Fonda’s action in that matter. Even so, Jane Fonda has expressed regret for making that trip–particularly for the propaganda photos that the Viet Cong made of her. One can just imagine what they will do with Obama’s history with two unrepentent domestic terrorists–particularly when Ayers still expresses regret that they didn’t blow more things up!

I am SO disgusted with Obama that I can honestly say that I do not know what I will do if he becomes the Democratic nominee. The thought literally turns my stomach since McBush is certainly NOT a viable alternative for me! I may end up writing in someone if the contest is between Obama and McBush since both men repulse me.

yup, when you get close to thirty, that light goes off giving you away. hey barry, where’s your light?

uppity too soon old too late smart. I remember when I reached 30 my mom became so smart.

Actually, when he is trolling, and he tries to impress with his language usage, he, like his trolls, sails along predictably, if correctly, when all of a sudden, he has a language blow out, and his sentences go bumpa bumpa bumpa.

And that’s the dumbass at his best.

Notice the syntax is incorrect?

TO TROLL YOU, KEV.

Welcome Kathryn..and all newbys..This Blog is the best for Intellligent, informed debate..because like Larry Johnson, it puts all Issues under the Microscope..being an old CSI guy..I appreciate that
level of Investigation..

Larry and Flineo…Bravo..Well done..With Obamas Backgound and known Associates and Mentors..This Approach to EXPOSURE must be taken..The SDS and Weather Underground were Overt in Many ways….

Ho Ho Ho Chi Mihn right up Front..

This B.M…(Barack Movement) is more Overt..because as the 60′s people learned..it was best to go back underground and take over from within..

i bet the rev is on his good behavior(meds) and the press lap it up like the idiots they are.

Sounds like a good fellow! But keep your eye on him and give him the links he needs so he won’t fall for that which will impact his path! They don’t Remember and so they sometimes cannot See.

reverse racism sure won’t bring us together.

SKMF — Does being older mean not being relevant? With age comes wisdom my friend. We were on the streets in the 60′s and there are still 76 Million of us out here who understand whats going down. Give us a break.

Please, does anyone have that Return68 link, or of a similar name that has been posted here before? I need it. The one on the “revolution”? Thanks.

COVERT…Maxwell ..COVERT..

A Typical C.H.A.O.S. Operation

i’d say lazy and spoiled for the most part. there are a few who might take to the streets. and then there the criminally inclined who will use it for their own reasons. it happened in the 60s already.

uppity — they already gave the good Rev a $10 Million house and he’s still spouting hate.

Thanks for posting this, Bama Barron. As I’ve been reading the responses I’ve been wracking my brain, trying to remember if SDS itself had ever advocated violence. My recollection was that they had not.
I was never an SDS member, though I attended one meeting in 1965, and would have signed up if anyone in the local (UI Urbana) chapter had had the political smarts of the visiting speaker that day.

He was from Berkeley, he was wearing a suit, his hair was short and he was clean-shaven, in stark and utter contrast to the shaggy, camo-clad locals.

Most of all, he was a master strategist and politician, and made the locals look like the testosterone-addled revolution-spouting dimbulb Che Guevara wannabes they were.

I couldn’t stand those silly little jerks then, and I can’t abide their counterparts today. They didn’t scare me, though, any more than the Oborg and their “leader” scare me now.

What they did then, and what they do now, is really, really piss me off… and I still hope I die before I get old.

Laundry, with an ulterior motive.

You can find out more about someone by doing their laundry than just about anything else out there…

well said—-

full interview Available Fiday on MSNBC..

Agree with Laurie. I think toning down the rhetoric helps, as does being precise in our definitions.

They’ve already labeled Clinton supporters as racist, out-of-touch, old, co-opted, ignorant, uneducated, etc. etc. etc. etc.

I think Obama has a better chance of being saved by Dr. Phil.

I want Hillary to run as an Independent, if thats the only way she can stop BO.

Thats why he Comes here..because he is “Out of the Loop.”.I know He really admires us, I would Recruit him if he would grow up a little..

Uppity, Larry and all — I believe you are very correct with posts re Weathermen and Panthers. Especially after researching contemporary Afrocentrism. There could be two things brewing that I want no part of.

Poverty leads to fascist movements. Could it be that the neglected inner cities/Katrina disaster are part of this? Couple that with Ayers-style 1960′s mindset?

It’s cause for pause. I’m going to focus on poverty and blight as it looks in Indiana and the Carolinas. I really believe that State by State this looks very different. I believe we need FDR’s WPA, again.
Anyway, I’m glad Larry is brave enough to broach these kinds of subjects. After I stopped working for a paper I became a therapist. Unless we have the basic support systems in place for people at the lowest levels, we will see the “F” problem here. Very scary, this.

Here are two films on Indiana I found:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=23ZuzcKSEWg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8nTDBopB8PU

Thank you, Larry, for your bravery.

Happy Birthday and many many more.

Obama may be “reviving” the feeling of the 60s, but he, himself, DISTANCED himself from the 60′s in his interview with the papers in Las Vegas, NV, remember?

I live in a Hillary state…but I’m afraid it’s a McCain over Obama state…and I’m not voting for Obama.

Yeah, the only movement he inspires in me is a bowel movement …

Wasn’t it “over thirty?” and America laughed when it’s author turned 31. He probably still doesn’t trust himself.

Barry isn’t Huey Long. He’s a machine pol through and through with a gimmick.

One thing about Barry’s white followers is that most them are not fighting or riot material. Most of them are college kids, yuppies, successful young professionals whose closet contact with violence is a papercut or stapler misfire at the office.

WTF? “Your group lost 3 wars” Pray tell… what the hell are you talking about and what group would that be that I supposedly belong?

And since all you seem to ever do is fling poo and call names… why/how could anyone take you seriously? Grow up

again, your use of language… or should I say your level of discourse speaks volumes – keep up the good work Simon

I thought it was silly when I was under 21 and still find it so.

Well at least we know he’s not 17 since he brought up “SAT scores.” God, do they even GIVE that test any more? At least when I thought he was 17 you think its a phase …

Next thing, he’ll be telling us he’s a MENSA member …..

PERFECT analysis … lolol

there you go deciding you about me. keep on making foolish presumptions.

There is a contest about who is the worst troll and Kevin is winning …

can you really “win” at being the worst?

Ah Yes Fly..You do see “The Big Picture”..GFY..

One piece of the Stragerdy Puzzle at a time…and Ross Perot thought HE heard a Giant Sucking Sound..Ha..There is no such thing as
“Coincidence”..Not in the Mechanized, Industrialed Age with so many Buttons, Levers and Mouses to push, pull and run through the “Matrix Maze”…
Welcome fellow “Blade Runners”

For once I don’t agree. I am not at least 53 years old but I can be a student of history. More importantly I sincerely believe the only ‘due’ to Barry that is fitting and correct is a significant prison sentence.

As well as the Rev Wright ad in NC.

You ARE Laurie.

So I guess Bill Clinton pardoning some Weathermen makes Clinton some sort of terrorist, huh.

How is all of the sudden Obama and Ayers LONGTIME BIG BUDDIES. I love the “influence” of his preacher teaching him to hate stuff. I thought at the start of this whole deal that Obama was accused of being an atheist and not going to church. Y’all need to make up your minds.
I sure can smell what you and the pubs are cookin’.It’s hard for me to tell what Obama is cookin’ because he is having to smack down BS like these threads everyday.

If Hillary is surrounded by better advisor’s how come she is behind and can’t catch up.

Larry, this is an excellent diary. I have written several times that Obama turned me completely against him when he used the lie of race-victimism against Hillary and Bill Clinton in order to get votes. That is so threatening to me that I would never vote for Obama and, in fact, will work for whoever runs against him if he were to be able to steal the nomination from Hillary.

I grew up in Texas and I have family members who were (some still are) racists and I have stood against them and spoken up against racism all my life. Now I will not support anybody, no matter what color their skin, who uses racist tactics.

Ironically, we learned after I was in my fifties that my great grandfather was black passing as white and the fear of being found out was the source of my grandmother’s racism. We still had people of color hanged and murdered in Texas in the fifties when my great grandfather died so her fears were well-placed. Now fifty years later, we have an AA person fanning the flames of hatred in order to pick up 90% of the black vote. Shame on him and shame on those who are too stupid to recognize that for what it is. Being willing to use the pain of others (the sorry SOB never suffered from being black himself) opportunistically.

Jesse Jackson Sr. was the candidate that followed the legacy of MLK. He was the true first African American candidate. Obama’s campaign has been really disrespectful to Jesse Sr.

When Jesse ran in 1988 he brought together all the disenfrancised people instead of playing off one group aganist all the others like Obama has. Jesse Sr. won 11 contests and 1,219 delegates. He was even the front runner after winning Michigan. And he did this without trashing the other candidates like Obama has from day 1. Jesse Sr also faced outright opposition from the DNC and the corporate owned media constantly demonized him, instead of the fawning propaganda machine they’ve been with Obama. There was no world wide web, no blogosphere no nationwide alternative radio back then. If Jesse Sr. had run again and it was him vs Hillary I’d be completely happy with whoever won.

Jesse Sr. did quietly endorse Obama early on, but he’s publically decried the sleazy tactics of the Obama campaign, including tactics of his oldest son, Jesse Jr. Interestingly, Jacqueline Jackson (Jesse Sr.’s wife) and youngest son Yusef Jackson have endorsed Hillary. Jacqueline even did a commerical for Hillary.

God I was so tired of being sucked on. I’m all burnt out now. Put me on the shelf and let me rest in peace will ya Obama and friends.

Wow, that video is really unfair, to the point of being bizarre. I was in fifth grade in 1963, as a teenager I stood on the roof top of an office building in Arlington and was Washington, DC burn in 1968, so I remember those times. I also knew lefties, not active ones, but still lefties, who actually believed that the government would fall and we would have a real revolution.

The Obama campaign is not like that. It is super obnoxious, but it is not like that. To compare the rhetoric of Mr. Hopey Unity Pony to the Weather Underground is ludicrous.

While I appreciate why Rev. Wright is politically radioactive, I don’t think it is fair to compare him to Farrakan.

Frankly if I were Clinton I would be hoping that video did not make the rounds, because I really don’t think it works for her at all. It just looks like the Clinton people are losing it.

good points…

and “Mr. Hopey Unity Pony” is the funniest one I’ve heard yet!

“I know He really admires us”

Sorry friend… wrong again.

If I lived in a competitive state, I would vote for McCain over Obama. As an American, I’d have to.

More wars, fewer jobs? Or are you just looking for a rerun of Katrina? This blogger will be voting Democratic in November, even if the superdelegates saddle us with a Gravel/Kucinich ticket.

I totally agree with you! Tom Hayden and Todd Gitlin were both former SDS members, and I certainly do not think of them as terrorists. In contrast, Bill Ayers is the very face of domestic terrorism–particularly when he laments that they did not blow up more things!

And although the Black Panthers certainly have their violent legacy, I would not group them with the Weatherpeople Underground either as they did not start out as a group hellbent on violence, as was the case with the Weatherpeople Underground.

I still recall my parents’ former neighbors visiting town back in the 80′s–the man was a retired FBI agent who had apparently spent a good bit of his career tracking members of the Weatherpeople Underground. According to him, they were the worst kind of scurge on American society. He spent enough time bitching about the Weatherpeople Underground that it convinced me that these were very bad people. I pointed out to the man that the Weatherpeople had once plotted to mix up DMSO with LSD and spread it all over the Capitol and then watch all of Congress tripping their asses off–a plot with a little humor attached. According to this former G-man, that was one of the more innocuous things that the Weatherpeople Underground had dreamed up–that most of their other activities involved a good deal of death and destruction.

I do not know how that reply addresses any of the my arguments. No matter, this is a place to express yourself.

However I do think you are viewing the yuppies that flock to Obama in an altogether too warlike vein. I see young ladies that only want to have Obama’s baby accompanied by young men who walk the walk just to get laid.

Nonwithstanding my penetrating insights into their libidos, this group would not know a brick of C-4 from a wedge of Brie. Ask for Semtex and you would get a prophylactic. BRASS to them is something that always has to be polished on the yacht.

You may stop digging the bunker now.

ahhh Teakwood kite..you pick ..i am wide open!! and more than willing!!

fly

I turned 18 in 1972. I was among the first group of 18 year-olds allowed to vote. I considered myself very liberal, very anti-establishment, and had every intention of voting for McGovern. Then, on election day, I walked into the voting booth, felt the immense responsibility of the act of voting, and decided at the last minute that my parents were older and wiser and had more experience, and voted for their candidate. It was the only time I voted Republican in my life. But it was the time that made a difference.

I think now about the youth movement that carried McGovern to the Democratic nomination, and how it failed to deliver him to the White House, and in fact resulted in the most humiliating defeat of any presidential candidate ever. And I hope that this is not the year that history will repeat itself.

Can you elaborate?