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Hillary Asks Barry to Debate, Much More Nicely …

She asks Barack Obama to join her in TWO debates in Oregon, and MUCH more nicely than I would!

I’d say, “Come on, you wuss. You’re afraid to let the people of Michigan and Florida vote. You’re afraid to debate Hillary again in North Carolina, and bailed like the coward you are out of the April 27th debate. You haven’t said boo about Evan Bayh’s and others’ request that you let the people of Indiana hear you two debate. And I bet you’ll duck and run when you hear Hillary’s challenge that you debate her before the people of Oregon. Man up, Barry! What are you so scared of?” (Well, we know the answer to that one, don’t we, Barry.)

Hillary’s “compact” for the people of Oregon, particularly its hard-hit rural and logging areas, is moving and inspiring. And Hillary is correct that, in the Pacific Northwest, we have not had a chance to hear or attend a presidential debate about OUR issues.

Here’s our report yesterday on Lanny Davis calling out Howard Dean for secretly abetting Barry’s cowardly retreat from the North Carolina debate: “Lanny Davis and Evan Bayh Throw Down the Gauntlet” (along with Evan Bayh’s understandable request that the people of his state, Indiana, get to hear the two debate).

And here’s Uppity Woman’s smackdown of Barry for ditching the scheduled North Carolina debate: “Obama Congregants: Waaaaa! Leave Barry Alone! No More Debates!

Bottom line: EVERY state that is holding a primary — and whose citizens are spending millions of dollars in both donations and taxpayer-funded services for the campaigns — deserves a debate.

Ask any city leader how much it costs when these candidates come through town. Ask every citizen how much time, effort, and money they put into these campaigns.

They deserve a debate on THEIR soil.

And we haven’t even gotten to the people of Kentucky, West Virginia and other states with primaries yet to come.

What’s the big deal, Barry?

Did that ABC debate spook you so badly that you’re scared of little Katie Couric moderating the debate on April 27th?

Running and hiding is NOT an indicator of what is required of a president, Barry.

And people are catching on. Big time.

  • http://www.12counts.com tam

    This guy is a joke. He’s ducking and dodging legitimate debate…I wonder if that’s his plan for the hard questions should he reach the GE.

    He needs to debate – perhaps he can save some of his money since he’s gonna lose anyway. Instead, he prefers to drop cash and run.

  • jwrjr

    Not much chance that he will agree to any debate unless he can pre-approve the questions. Any debate where there are questions about his background or about substantive policy matters is NOT Obama’s friend.

  • http://hyper-educated-uppity-woman.blogspot.com Uppity

    Does anybody have that Return68 link that has been posted here before? The “revolution” link? If so please post it here, I would appreciate it.

  • http://noquarterusa.net/ SusanUnPC

    I’ve been trying to think of an apt sports analogy. Would it be like the championship game of the Final Four, with one team up by 3 — and 2 minutes left on the clock — declaring the game over? Or is there a better analogy than that?

  • workingclass artist

    Hmmm……Good strategy Hillary…..Like the FL./MI. chicken run just keep askin him….Barry what are you afraid of….Good post

  • sister of ye

    I think the analogy is: “I’m taking my ball and going home! I win! So there!”

  • http://thehorizontalworld.blogspot.com/ Mary Jo Kopechne

    http://www.recreate68.org/

    There’s a link for their manual on how to make sheilds but I’m at work and don’t have it here.

    Be sure to read all around the site. The info in Denver is that they are organizing themselves based on the Days of Rage.

    Apparently, NPR and Democracy Now has done interviews with them, making them sound very legit.

  • beebop
  • simon, too

    Actually, the greater analogy is “I don’t get it.”

    Meaning, he’s making himself look HORRIBLE, and weak, but he thinks, like Rove and Bush, he appears in command.

    He’s creating his own reality, apparently.

    Is that also part of conquer and divide, fifty plus one, the rationale behind “this is no longer 1965?”

    Sh*theads.

    Heh.

  • beebop

    I don’t think there is one.

    People who play sports have the courage to play by the rules and for the entire run of the game.

    He’s not a competitor.

    He’s used to getting people thrown off of ballots and winning because he’s the last name left to vote for.

    He’s not used to a fight.

    Reverand Wright is the gift that keeps on giving ….

    http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2008/04/rev-wright-defe.html

  • http://hyper-educated-uppity-woman.blogspot.com Uppity

    OH THANK YOU MARY JO! I owe you!

  • JustJennifer

    I live in WA State and am planning to go Oregon to volunteer for her campaign. Man that would be SWEET if there was a debate to go to as well. Of course he doesn’t want to debate anymore.. Obaby doesn’t like it when he has to speak off the cuff.

  • scoutt

    jeezus, how does that woman do it! she’s got a 1,000,000 gigabyte brain and plans down to the nth detail? how can we not put this leader in the whitehouse?

  • simon, too

    You know, I find Kev, and Jeff and the rest of the trolls really boring, and DUMB.

    Don’t they have anyone creative, or smart?

    I guess it explains a lot, though…

  • Andy

    Thanks for the link beebop; I am glad to see that Wright knows that Obama is just another politician unlike Obama’s claims to not to be
    one. LOL so much for Obama’s “different kind of politics’ I am not a politician” BS.

    Wright (on the ABC link above):

    “It went down very simply,” Wright responds. “He’s a politician, I’m a pastor. We speak to two different audiences. And he says what he has to say as a politician. I say what I have to say as a pastor. But they’re two different worlds. I do what I do. He does what politicians do. So that what happened in Philadelphia where he had to respond to the sound bytes, he responded as a politician.”

  • beebop

    No, the robo one with the quasi star wars name has no creativity. There’s the Cee osama person who is kind of a bitch and then there’s one whose name escapes me who was egging Uppity on and thought that pretty is as important as smart. Oh, and Jennifer, who I think is Jeff’s softer side … but that’s an opinion and clearly not a fact.

  • Ellen

    I don’t know how people who have not yet voted could think of voting for anyone other than Hillary Clinton

  • OBSP

    Baby Bo is scared, he’s not going to do it. He’s going to be on FOX Sunday, that should be fun. Maybe she won’t need a debate. I doubt very seriously if he takes on Chris like Bill did.

  • http://OTliesvideo Lyn

    OT did you see this http://www.suntimes.com/news/politics/912864,CST-NWS-impeach24.article
    BY DAVE MCKINNEY AND JACLYN BRENNING Sun-Times Springfield Bureau
    SPRINGFIELD — The impeachment drumbeat at the Statehouse grew louder Wednesday, a day after the blockbuster accusation by a former state official that he got his state job after pouring money into Gov. Blagojevich’s campaign fund — including a $25,000 check in an envelope he presented to the governor.

    Two House Democrats said discussions on a possible impeachment resolution targeting Blagojevich accelerated after Tuesday’s disclosure by Ali Ata, whom the governor appointed to a $127,000-a-year post running the Illinois Finance Authority.
    In his surprise guilty plea to federal corruption charges, Ata said he gave two $25,000 campaign contributions to the governor and then got Blagojevich’s assurance of landing a state job in which Ata “could make some money.” Ata is expected to testify against indicted former Blagojevich fund-raiser Tony Rezko.

    State Rep. Jack Franks (D-Woodstock) and Rep. John Fritchey (D-Chicago) said a decision on impeachment could come within two weeks

  • simon, too

    Ok, I still say Kevin is the least able troll, but I am open to persuasion.

    Maybe we can have a contest someday, vote on the least creative troll, and give a prize away…

  • workingclass artist

    I’m in…LOL…and what wouldthe prize be….An autographed picture of the politically doomed messiah…and a free bud beer

  • Ugo

    You know why he is “running away from debate instead of running towards something, he is running away from everything and everybody that cares about this country”(JC).

    He has nothing to copy from quote without giving credit to the author.

  • simon, too

    Ah, a plant.

    Given the economic reach of Wall Street, and Pelosi’s collusion, Cheney will never be impeached.

    OTOH, I can see legal action against him, no matter who is elected, in 2008.

    The man is surrounded by MORONS.

  • workingclass artist

    That is rich…..Watch the dominoes fall…

  • workingclass artist

    Cheney is a convicted criminal….IN FRANCE…..

  • workingclass artist

    OOOOHHH……I can’t wait for that….The Good Rev. Wright defending cracker hate……another log on BABY-O’s BONFIRE OF THE VANITIES…

  • Ugo

    He has nothing to copy from and quote someone’s work without giving credit to the author. That is why he is running away from the debate. he cann’t think on his feet.

    You see the same way he goes around claiming he offers universal health care. We all know that that not what he had in his platform. He copies everything from Sen. Clinton. He is pathological liar and a plagiarizer.

    Do not let him steal this nomination from Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton.

  • Eurogirl70

    Don’t forget Yikes who plays the “kumbaya” card. She is “good cop” troll. I have a mental picture of a girl in her 20′s whose bedroom is decorated with a poster of Senator Obama shirtless in his swim trunks, and Harajuku Hello Kitty motif.

    Picture Thora Birch in Ghost World

  • simon, too

    Actually, everywhere.

    I wouldn’t assume McCain won’t go after him.

    Cheney, and his crew have a habit of seeing what others want them to see, as opposed to what is real.

    And they aren’t bright enough, or moral enough to have some goalpost of success, or comparison.

    So, I wouldn’t shrug off a possible prosecution, though they do…

    Also, it’s been my impression he feels Clinton WILL prosecute him, take from it what you will.

    Either way, this country can’t get back to normal until there is some measure of justice for Dick Cheney, and the rest…

    Outing a CIA agent is treason, he’s accountable.

    Period.

  • workingclass artist

    Ok I just went to the site….I’m baffled…Don’t know whether to laugh or throw up…Hmmmm…..

  • simon, too

    I’m really curious, other than the Plame angle, how Rove fits into this, too?

    Getting kinda hot in the kitchen…

    heh.

  • http://vimandvinegar.blogspot.com Suzanne

    I have to say, as a North Carolina voter who was led by news reports more than two weeks ago to believe there would be a debate within driving distance of my home, and as an official “undecided” (although I’m leaning heavily in HRC’s favor lately), I am very disappointed there won’t be a debate here. And all I’ve been hearing from the beginning was it was due to a potential scheduling conflict, according to an Obama spokesperson(?). That’s exactly the kind of thing I say when I want to get out of having to do something at church. Oops. (blush).

    Anyway, I’ll be interested to see where Obama’s “schedule” has him this Sunday when he was supposed to be in NC for a debate.

  • blobert

    OT: Black radio stations in NYC are SMEARING Clinton up one side and down the other. I was in a small store that had two different radio stations going.
    Both were call-in.
    The DJ would give bad patter about Clinton, then a barrage of callers would follow saying things like “she’s the devil.”
    I’m smelling Republican.

  • beebop

    In church?

  • stodghie

    just read that dean reid and pelosi are going to write the supers to ask them to make a decison now. talk about scared. we know how successful their letters are don’t we. barry must be calling them balling about all this. the thought of a debate must make him rush for the toilet.

  • simon, too

    Are they sending email?

  • Eurogirl70

    First of all, Obama took today off. If the NC debate was cancelled due to conflicts in his schedule how is he able to take today off?

    He should have a very packed schedule in the run up to the May 6th primaries in NC and Indiana.

  • Kourian

    They must’ve spiked the water supply in the US with Kool-Aid™. There’s no other explanation. People are carrying on like Eloi.

  • John

    “Scoreboard!”

    (I hope B-Rob or whatever his name is didn’t trademark that stupid catchphrase.)

    Tip to whichever troll it is that does that: It doesn’t strengthen your argument when you pat yourself on the back.

  • sonia

    he needs time off to finish his waffle

  • John

    And what happens when most of the superdelegates declare for Hillary? Will Reid, Dean, and Pelosi be happy then? Not a chance.

    What they mean is- decide for OBAMA now. Or forever hold your peace.

  • sonia
  • sonia

    pelosi is a puke face woman ,,

    i am woman myself who always stands up for other woman ,,

    but not this one ,,,,

    she needs a f**k ,,,,,,,

    she makes me mad

  • Kourian
  • Kourian

    For sure it’s unprecedented in democracy.

  • Kourian

    He’s used to getting people thrown off of ballots and winning because he’s the last name left to vote for.

    Too right.

  • bwana

    nah. it wasn’t true about paula or monica, either.

  • JoeySky

    Obama can run to the end of the world but he can’t run away from himself. He will come face to face with the face that he’s a pussy.

  • J in Mn

    BO claims debating is old politics than why did he do 21 other debates?

  • http://vimandvinegar.blogspot.com Suzanne

    lol. Maybe. The place was picked (NCSU) and the Party had set it up, but a local news report I heard early on said he had not confirmed due to a potential conflict. Now, as you know, the state party’s website says because of “time constraints and logistical issues.” And fear of hurting party unity. Apparently, nobody remembers that the nomination used to always be decided at the National Convention (I’m – ahem – too young to recall that myself, but I have seen “the newsreels”); somehow the party survived.
    Anyway, the man has ESP – he knew he was going to have a scheduling conflict/logistical issue/time constraint thingy well ahead of time. Oh, but apparently talking to Chris Wallace is going to be a logistical breeze.
    Now I’m just mad.

  • Arabella Trefoil

    Considering the misogyny in music, I’m not surprised. Now I am 56 year old white lady, so I don’t know the correct terms for the art form – rap, hip-hop, gangstah etc.

    But I know what I see You-Tube. Women being degraded in every way possible way. Allegedly there was a video recently where a man swiped a credit card through a woman’s buttocks.

    I listen to black radio stations. I hear what they say, and what their callers say.

    Bros before hos.

  • J in Mn

    The national enquirer might be true they broke monicagate lol.

  • Kevin

    too freakin’ funny.

  • B-Rob

    I’ll bite:

    With Florida and Michigan, it’s like the final two minutes in the game with one team up by three. During an officials time out, the NCAA changes the rules establishing a “four point line”, they rescore the game and add 10 point to the team that was trailing by three and give the other team two points. So instead of being up three points with two minutes to play, the new “four point line” means that the team in the lead after 48 minutes of playing under one set of rules is now down by five. And, yes, the team that was trailing but is now ahead thinks that is “fair”. . . .

  • mboy

    susanunpc writes:

    “I’ve been trying to think of an apt sports analogy. Would it be like the championship game of the Final Four, with one team up by 3 — and 2 minutes left on the clock — declaring the game over? Or is there a better analogy than that?”

    i was listening to a political podcast about a week or so ago, which has views from the right, left and the center. the republican on the show cited a maris poll, indicating that “it may be insignificant but” obama and mccain are running neck and neck in new york, according to the stats.

    on a separate episode of the same podcast show, the same republican cited some statistics (i don’t know where he got his numbers from) that 60% of obama’s total votes -presumably nationwide- came from cook county (chicago is the major city in this county in illinois).

    i don’t know how accurate these numbers are, but if there is any truth to them, it strenghtens larry’s argument of obama’s vulnerability.

    nevertheless, i found this info interesting. based on this, i think your analogy is appropriate, considering the fact some democratic superdelegates want clinton to drop out. too soon to call the game. does anyone have any thoughts or comments?

  • workingclass artist

    Were’nt they going to name Fitzgerald as special counci in the AG atty. firing scandal….

  • workingclass artist

    I think this will blow up in their faces….

  • workingclass artist

    Joey…I prefer the term Limp Dick…if your going to be sexist and all….

  • Amanda

    I wouldn’t look at NE. But then BO went to Chicago today, who knows what for ;) . It would be nice if it were true, but the guy can’t be that stupid (I mean after Wright, Rezko, Ayers, & Co.)

    Anyway, I think Wright is coming out to energize NC. A single digit loss for Hill there would be a moral victory. Indiana on the other hand is a must.

  • Amanda

    OT, all this buzz about E. Edwards, I wish she would come out and campaign for Hillary in NC. It would do a world of good. I can understand why John does not want to get involved yet, or endorse anybody, but nothing stops Liz from doing so. She basically endorsed Hill’s health care plan.

  • http://OTliesvideo Lyn

    They are talking about Impeach the Gov, because of the rezko trial, so who will be next in the crosshairs?

  • Mel

    Because no one asked him questions before that had substance about his claim of superior judgement, and his one grasp of a reason to vote for him went right down the toilet in the last debate!

  • Ron from S.F.

    Could it be that Barak is ducking the debates because he is not very good at it? Especially now that the media is finally getting around to asking him some tough questions. Of course with friends like Jeremiah, who needs enemies?

  • http://divinedem.blogspot.com Mary Ellen

    Barry always uses the same excuse when he’s hiding from a debate, he says he would rather talk directly to the people. He’d rather stand in front of an adoring crowd of Obamabots and pretend he’s some sort of Superstar instead of stand next to Hillary and let millions of people who have not voted yet, see who is the better candidate.

    Barry is a coward, and this shows us that he will never be able to withstand a campaign with John McCain. McCain may be old, but he’s no coward.

  • Cath

    In “politics as usual,” the Front Runner doesn’t have to debate. Why risk it — even if it promotes democracy? The Challenger (person running behind) usually pushes for the debate as a way to get ahead or get back in the race.

    Looks like Front Runner Obama is “politics as usual.” What was all that stuff about “change”?

    Granted, the Dems have had a lot of debates, but only three or four with the two finalists. The voters of Indiana, North Carolina, Oregon, etc. deserve at least one more look. Who knows? Maybe Barack can take this one.

    Mark Kleiman (UCLA Prof and Obama die-hard; I’ve given up on his otherwise excellent blog) claimed a few months ago that Obama would wipe the floor with Clinton in a one-on-one debate. I say, “Bring it on.” So far, I’m not convinced that he is any match for Hillary.

  • Cath

    Well, I recognize THAT one as sexist. Why is it that women are the roughest on themselves?

  • J in Mn

    Obama was like a kid getting caught stealing from a store or something in the last debate lol. BO supporters threatened ABC and all that but we didn’t hear that kind of uproar except from SNL when HRC was getting asked hard questions in the NBC debate.

    I understanding the reasoning he doesn’t want to debate bc they have had 21 debates and only 4 1 on 1 but seriously he is so scared lol. Do the debate lol

  • may not have to leave party

    i need to reread that book – had forgotten about it. but so apropos.

  • may not have to leave party

    corona please

  • Tahler

    I live in EUGENE and I would really enjoy a debate.

    Oregonians DO want a debate. Why won’t Obama commit?

  • beebop

    Fear?

  • didi47

    This primary makes the last Republican one look like a ‘tea party’. The Obama camp, with the media’s full support, has played just about every dirty trick one can imagine, while campaigning they were the agents of change! Well it changed alright. Changed to stooping to the most incredible depths of lies and deceit and vilifying attacks against Hillary that are to this day, beyond anything I could have imagined happening in a US election!

    I always believed the spirit of fairness, truth and honor would hold steadfast in this election; especially after the horror of the last election.

    Instead, it’s been even worse, with not only nary a peep of protest by the media; but in fact, the media jumped on board to boot! All journalistic professionalism and ethics (save a very few) seemed to have simply disappeared. Hopefully, just like ‘chickens come home to roost’ so does the ‘truth’ and this ridiculous pro Obama bias has finally come to an end, and the publics questions about this unscrutinized candidate will finally be addressed!

  • Brush It Off

    Bill Clinton, Was right when he said that Obama
    is playing the race card. Every time he gets in
    a jam he cries “RACISM”. I am an African American
    and I say that Barry Obama is a big baby. WAWAWA.

  • Reverend Wrong

    The racism thing has lost its effect. It is like crying wolf these days.

  • yttik

    Barack! Bawk! Bawk!

    He won’t debate because he’s scared they’ll forget his pillow and ask him actual questions. Questions are hard.

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