The Israel lobby has been running into a few problems lately, but it’s nothing they don’t think they can handle: a charge of treason, a strong suspicion of obstructing justice, and a gathering storm of criticism from a few dissident intellectuals and policy types. Nothing to get too exercised about. Having felled Charles “Chas” Freeman, smitten Gen. Zinni, and sidelined those in the Obama administration who question the nature and utility of America’s “special relationship” with Israel, the Lobby’s flagship organization, the American-Israel Public Affairs Committee (AIPAC), is primed to hold their national conference in Washington next week, with Jane “This Conversation Doesn’t Exist” Harman slated to address the gathering.

http://original.antiwar.com/justin/2009/04/30/the-lobby-wants-war/

Their hubris is unmatched, except perhaps by Obama. But, maybe they have a reason for their triumphalism:

They got away with it. Thanks to Obama.

http://wire.antiwar.com/2009/05/01/us-to-drop-israel-lobbyist-spy-case/

It’s good to see Pat expose them with humor. But it still gets my Irish up. These people were Criminally Incompetent, Intentionally Incompetent. They should be tried in a court of law.

It was always a pack of lies–all of it. These people should be tried as war criminals. There was never any WMD; there was never any serious plot to purchase yellowcake uranium. The aluminum pipes were for normal use. The PNAC conspiracy was carried out by the neocons under the guidance of Bush and Cheney. Feith is a moron; wolfowitz is a creept. Cheney is a darkly paranoid and evil man. Bush is a war criminal, as are they all.

And, Obama better watch out. His agenda isn’t going to work in Afghanistan, either. He’s on the brink of dealing with a Pakistan explosion which will reverberate throughout the region. We don’t have the money or the troops to deal with it–unless we gin up a DRAFT. Which, frankly, I’d love to see, because then all those war cheerleaders in the right-wing who never saw a waterboarding they didn’t love, would then get their chance to serve their country.

I couldn’t have more contempt for people like Feith, Wolfowitz, Bush and Cheney–NOT ONE OF WHOM EVER SPENT A DAY IN WAR.

I’m outraged by this alright. I’m outraged that these two psychologists haven’t had their licenses revoked.

Lets get this straight, fool:

Two professional psychologists–licensed by the American Psychological Association to practice–are the “architects” of the torture program.

Does the name Josef Mengele mean anything to you?

Both of those men should have their license immediately revoked by the APA. They violated the ethical guidelines of the APA. They should not be allowed to practice anywhere.

I’m glad their names are out in the public domain. They shame every single one of their ethical colleagues in the APA. I think everyone of their colleagues should contact the APA to demand their licenses be revoked–or the APA is a party to torture.

And I could go further. The ultimate responsibility falls on the U.S. voters because not only did they vote for all of the representatives in government, the American people never cared enough to question the government, but like sheep believed everything coming from the U.S. media and the government.

There was enough information for the American people to be skeptical and demand questions from their representatives in government. I know I protested because I knew there were valid questions that were not being answered. I was an avid reader of Knight Ridder. I know that I used the internet to read international news media, like the Guardian of London, but if Americans did not get the information is because, in my opinion, the news media knew that Americans wanted the war and were not about to be called unpatriotic. Germany and France opposition to the war should have sent alarms to every American that something was wrong. These two countries have always sided with the U.S. and have their own intelligence. Just that bit of information should have been enough. I’ll never forget when the Foreign Minister of Germany,Joschka Fischer said “I don’t believe you” to Rumsfeld. I wasn’t fooled then, and I’m not fooled now as to who must shoulder the responsibility for how it turned out.

Pat Lang’s book – Death Piled High looks very interesting. Great title.

Two Psychologists who have NO real experience — but apparently are sadistic bastards — invent a way to torture and sell it to the CIA.

I’d like to see each of these jerks waterboarded over 100 times each — but they would have a clue when and where they will be grabbed — how long each session will last. . .

I wonder what secrets (or lies) they are willing to give up to make the torture stop.

From Drudge:

ABCNEWS OUTS ‘ARCHITECTS’ BEHIND CIA WATERBOARDING, INTERROGATIONS…
NAMES NAMES, SHOWS THEIR FACES..

http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/story?id=7471217&page=1