They don’t come with the background we have here to appreciate that when an enemy is believed to have information which, if extracted, would save innocent lives, then extreme measures are actually counterproductive for the greater good.

Until Pew uses context as an informational tool in their questioning to counter ultilitarian claims that torture is legal and has enhanced our safety, it is a push poll imho. Someone has a hidden agenda/motive against religious people, particularly towards Evangelical and Catholic Christians.

O plays a game of using a single moment to placate a certain single-issue segment of society and then using another single moment to placate a segment of society that may be opposed to the earlier one. There is NO cohesiveness between his various policies other than keeping the POWER of the Party (thus O) by manipulating the masses.

People should start building charts and keeping score to get the REAL O and the real Democratic Party nowadays. You have got to take them on their WHOLE “Weltanschauung,” not just by how he and they react to one’s single-issue mentality at any point in time.

I suspect there may be some pushing involved in that Pew poll, as there may be a coordinated push to break down the cohesiveness of what the democrat party believes is the foundation of the republican party, White evangelical Protestants.

Eastan, the party is the Democratic Party. People in that party are Democrats.
This opening paragraph completely nullifies any attempt at thoughtful insight.

http://christiansforthemountains.org/

Well. He agrees with me. Torture is not a good thing. Now why are we putting up with this crap from the mainstream media that says Christians want to act like government agents, pulling thumbnails from HufPost writers? (oh. Sorry. I like that idea)

Tell people that you do not like being classified as a non Obama American, just because you know a carpenter’s son. Don’t stand for this torture from the EXTREME left.

Be an American and state your position. Most of us are in the middle. We don’t have to listen to the kooks who sit on the extreme ends of political philosophy as we know it.

I am retired–the new breed of teachers and I are on different pages, so to speak.

You must have been typing your comment while I was typing mine.

I am totally suspicious of Obama and his attitude toward religion. Here’s a man who claimed to spend twenty years “praising Jesus.” Then he claims to be a Muslim while visiting the Middle East. Then he holds a Seder at the White House. What next: a Wiccan ceremony, a Rosicrucian ceremony, something Hindu? He is trying to blur all religions into one. So your comments about an attempt to push “liberal agnostics” rings very true to me.

It’s a quandary for me, who was raised in a very religious (but not fundamental) home. I do believe that religion can do much to raise up ethical and moral children–if only because the stories from every religion are so morally instructive. Yet I too feel frustrated with fundamentalists. But liberal agnosticism smacks too much of the hubris the Greeks warned about.