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The End of Obama

By Larry Johnson on April 28, 2008 at 1:56 PM in Barack Obama, Current Affairs, Rev. Jeremiah Wright Jr.

When historians chart the beginning of the end of the Barack Obama campaign for President, they will point to 28 April 2008 at 9 am at the National Press Club. That is the moment that Barack’s pastor, spiritual mentor and “uncle” poured the gasoline and lit the match. KABOOM!! (I’m paraphrasing Dana Milbank’s observation below.)

Here’s what Dana Milbank observed:

Speaking before an audience that included Marion Barry, Cornel West, Malik Zulu Shabazz of the New Black Panther Party and Nation of Islam official Jamil Muhammad, Wright praised Louis Farrakhan, defended the view that Zionism is racism, accused the United States of terrorism, repeated his view that the government created the AIDS virus to cause the genocide of racial minorities, stood by other past remarks (“God damn America”) and held himself out as a spokesman for the black church in America. . . .

Wright also argued, at least four times over the course of the hour, that he was speaking not for himself but for the black church. . . .

That significantly complicates Obama’s job as he contemplates how to extinguish Wright’s latest incendiary device. Now, he needs to do more than express disagreement with his former pastor’s view; he needs to refute his former pastor’s suggestion that Obama privately agrees with him.

Will Barack’s Jewish supporters swallow Wright’s praise for Louis Farrakhan?

Louis said 20 years ago that Zionism, not Judaism, was a gutter religion. He was talking about the same thing United Nations resolutions say, the same thing now that President Carter’s being vilified for and Bishop Tutu’s being vilified for. And everybody wants to paint me as if I’m anti-Semitic because of what Louis Farrakhan said 20 years ago. He is one of the most important voices in the 20th and 21st century; that’s what I think about him. . . . Louis Farrakhan is not my enemy. He did not put me in chains, he did not put me in slavery, and he didn’t make me this color.”

Barack allows this madman to teach his children? Barack asks this man to pray with him before publicly announcing to run for President? If this does not prove beyond a doubt that Barack lacks the judgment required to be our nation’s Commander in Chief then what is the standard? Barack said he could not disown Uncle Jeremiah. Well you know what, if I had a batshit, crazy racist relative and I was running for President I would disown said relative. I would repudiate said relative. I would make it crystal clear that I would not attend their church. I would not give them money. I would not let them teach my children. But Barack? He doesn’t see a problem.

http://noratings.blogspot.com/ Bud White

This is unbelievable. I’m actually in shock. Wright is worse than we thought. It puts “typical white person” in context.

workingclass artist

Well Bud….This is typical Black Separatist rhetoric….soaring ain’ it. Good Post Larry…Think you could be right. It provides excellent cover for AA moderates whether they be preachers or politicians to begin they steady trickle away from this vitriol….And just in time for NC.

http://takeaction.wordpress.com/ A.Citizen

BURN BABY BURN!

Yeah, Stokely had it correct as far as I was concerned back then. Of course I was a lot younger then and the situation was different. They were murdering little black girls and black men and burning churches so Stokely had some grounds for his anger.

Wright does too; but……

All over the ‘sphere the Obamabots cannot seem to grasp the fact that the average white folk is gonna take sharp look at Barry’s pastor and decide….

Right Then!

Fuck if I vote for this guy.

This ain’t about fairness, it ain’t about civil rights, and it sure as HELL won’t be about McSame.

It’s about hate, fear and ‘The Other’.

And it makes Barry the Ignorant a loser.

No question.

workingclass artist

Agreed….All in all it is a sham. I refuse to go backwards in history…
I don’t like the taliban either….The only way forward is together….

http://hyper-educated-uppity-woman.blogspot.com Uppity

I myself am not into Pakistan like Barack is. They set women on fire there just “because”. Judging from what I have seen of this campaign, this is not a problem for Barry. So Barry can just kiss my feminist ass, I am never going to vote for him and I am very confident he and his campaign will live to regret their treatment of women in this race.

Kevin

As if it hasn’t happened here Uppity? C’mon for pete sake.

And since you brought it up… what’s so the big deal about having a solid social, political philosophy that’s grown out of being historically denigrated and oppressed? What’s wrong w/ framing your arguments in terms of citing how institutions, people and economics have contributed to your being “kept down”? What’s so different about framing everything as the fault of “the white man” vs. just “the man”? I’m just asking… and no I’m not anti feminist any more than I agree w/ the hard core “liberation theology” or the twisted (New Black Panthers vs. Black Panther party) ideologies of any other extremist groups.

For sh*t sake, I was instantly branded a misogynist, a sexist woman hating “MAN!!!!” several times on this site just because I disagreed w/ a commentors post – now how is that any more rational than what you decry w/ Wright? Rhetorical question…

Seriously… I’ve heard feminists say things that are just as controversial, and in some cases silly (all men should be castrated, etc.) as what Wright has said – but as my old baptist preacher used to say “but you don’t hear me though”.

Why is it always easier for people to retreat into entrenched familiar positions and comfort zones… presupposing the thoughts, goals and motivations of others rather than taking the time to actually talk to them.

I don’t think all feminists are “feminazis” (excuse the term, but you get my drift) just as I don’t automatically believe all white people are racist or all black people agree w/ Farrakhan – yet, what I hear repeatedly in this hand wringing and fingerpointing over Wright is just that – a continuation of the demonization of the other without even taking a few seconds to raise your blood pressure to form the thought that perhaps there’s more to it than what you had rammed down your throat by the MSM.

beebop

Kevin:

The huge difference is that I don’t want this dialogue being steered from the White House by people with an axelrod to grind.

These are changes that happen not by revolution but by consensus. Maybe they don’t happen at all. Maybe some of them do.

What I know is that this is not the time and this is not the election.

This country is already in the shitter. And we need someone not afraid to bring it back. He has no demonstrable experience that provides any level of comfort to me.

I don’t want a revolutionary. I want a president of all of America. Silly me. That’s what I thought we were voting for.

Kevin

“I don’t want this dialogue being steered from the White House by people with an axelrod to grind.”

I’m afraid… because Bee… on that we agree. I read no more into Wrights “i’m coming after you” than I do similar statements from other “religious” or special interest groups – it’s par for the course.

What, Hillary has never had to or will have to negotiate the wants/desires of some of her supporting special interests? Said groups haven’t had influence (unduly or not) on her actions?

It’s up to the politician and we the people to balance those requests.

As for “not the time, not the election” so – Hillary if elected isn’t going to push for historic changes, isn’t going to seek to redress some of the social/political wrongs of the past?

If not now (regardless of the candidate) then when Bee… when?

But let’s just be serious for a second… neither Clinton or Obama are really going to bring about major change, no paradigm shifts in policy… again, they’re just slightly different faces of the same status quo unfortunately. Let’s not kid ourselves about that.

The current system is broken, has been for sometime and no single administration will be able undo the majority of the damage… they can only get the ball rolling.

beebop

If you have any indication that women are going to take their indignation to the streets if they perceive that Clinton is “robbed” and recreate 1968, please enlighten me. I will tell you, however, that it won’t change my poor bitter gun clinging Irish American Jewish woman brain. It will just make me cling to that pow McCain.

MessyMarcy

Yes, haven’t you seen the website of us old ladies who are stocking up on knitting needles and salad forks and threatening to make trouble for that young whippersnapper Howard Dean if he tries to steal the nomination from Hillary? There will be blood, or at least Geritol (ask your mothers, or grandmothers).

Kevin sounds like he’s given up arguing hopey, changey. Is the koolade wearing off? Does this mean he’s NOT the one?
Hope

MessyMarcy
I’ll start stocking the Metamucil and prunes!
flyarm

ohhh noooo..not the prunes!!!!!!!!!!!!

the young’ins have no idea what they are up against!!!

fly

bert

“I don’t want a revolutionary. I want a president of all of America.”

Exactly, beebop.

beebop

Thank you, bert.

It is disengenuous to claim that Senator Obama who as sat at the feet of revolutionaries for more than 20 years has managed to “just listen” without learning or acquiring any of their thought process or teachings.

If you are known by the company that you keep, then show greater care. The only relationships of any duration are either radicals or family members. I find that odd and unsettling. No one else comes forward. Why did he need Casey to “vouch” for him in Pennsylvania? No one else that could resonnate with Pennsylvania voters?

stodghie

kevin, i am really concerned for you. truly! it is called reverse racism. any hope obama had died this morning. and not because of hillary, bill or the kkk. his own minister said grace over his dead campaign. duh!

workingclass artist

Stodghie ….IMHO there is no direction to prejudice except outward fom one group towards another…I understand the use of the academic term but I find it like other academic lables of convience to be lacking….Racism is what it is and flows in which ever direction is demanded of the circumstance…..It is a vile tool of TRIBALISM….In Africa the Hutus and the Tsutsies learned that the hard way….( sigh )

Kevin

OMG – that’s the second time in a single day that I’ve agreed w/ someone who frequently disagrees w/ me.

You’re right, racism is nothing more than fear of the other… the reflexive (conscious or unconscious) hatred and denigration of someone not of your “family” “tribe” “town”, etc. – one of those left over vestiges of what I’d like to consider man’s more primitive times.

Repackaged and retooled for the purpose of maintaining divisions, diversions and distractions.

And, unfortunately we fall for it all too often. It’s a learned behavior (racism) and it must be unlearned as well.

workingclass artist

Unfortunately as History often shows when things get rough folks go tribal….Sad but true…..

BIG RICH

You have got to be shitting me. What has Obama done to women?

JoeySky

he did not put me in slavery

Since when Rev. Wright was a slave? He was born free. Both of his parents were well recognized. Wright went to good school. This country gave him a good opportunity. He lives in a million dollars house.

Why Rev. Wright think he was at some point of his life in slavery?

Amanda

The funny thing is the history does not support Wright’s statement. As a big fan of history he claims to be, Wright ought to know that the arabs were the first masters of Africans, and their slave trade was going on for centuries before the Europeans got involved.
So his friend Farrakhan, as a representative of Nation of Islam did put Wright in slavery (from historical perspective.)
Not to mention that in muslim Nigeria, slavery is still “legal”.
I wonder if Wright and Farrakhan ever held a discussion about Islam and slavery in Africa.

http://hyper-educated-uppity-woman.blogspot.com Uppity

Well if you recall his Moyer discussion, history is all wrong.

Amanda

Uppity, I know, I know. Hillary’s supporters are not supposed to be educated. We drink beer (although my Grey Goose holds a special place in my house )
We might even have studied the wrong history at the liberal NYU, or even the wrong books of Bernard Lewis about Middle East, Islam, Africa etc.

Ehhh, the Kool-Aid, hate speech … they do wonders in understanding the “wright” history.

http://hyper-educated-uppity-woman.blogspot.com Uppity

Buncha dumb hicks we are fer shure.

zOMG! HALP US BAROK O’BOMBA– WE R STUCK HEAR N ALTOONA!!!!! SAV Uz!!!

http://takeaction.wordpress.com/ A.Citizen

Funniest thing I’ve read all day.

But then I’ve been at MyDD, TPM and C&L where strangely enough the Oborg have seemingly lost their humor.

What they had of it that is.

http://hyper-educated-uppity-woman.blogspot.com Uppity

Gee I feel really bad for them…
OBSP

Go to the Orange Demon, it’s sad! I can even turn on cable news again. Now they know how we felt these last months with all the Hillary bashing.

stodghie

i have to wonder about ole ko. milbank was a regular on countdown. that was his last visit i’ll bet.

jes

I think the worm has turned. And about time.

wry

My dumb fat white trash self is happier today than I’ve been since Rudy Giuliani self destructed.
Think I’ll go out and buy some arugula at Whole Foods…nah.

Amanda

Sorry, but just like Grey Goose, I do love arugula. I was pissed off that Obama tried to hijack that too from beer drinking Hillary’s supporters. Arugula salad with goat cheese and pears, sprinkled with balsamic vinegar and olive oil .

wry

In solidarity with you,amanda,I’ll try the arugula. Can I use canned pears,please?
i need to be true to my down market self.;)

Amanda

LOL, that was funny.

beebop

Barry would LOVE your leftovers … better than that waffle …
Fred C. Dobbs

Anyone got a picture of Senator Hope-a-Dope with a quart of Old English malt liquor, a jug of Night Train or a chicken wing in his hands?

Guess the Kool-Aid Sippers will have to invent a new name for watermelon, huh?

Fred C. Dobbs

Screw arugula. I’m having some fresh swamp cabbage and a 4 quarts of deer meat chili flown in from Florida.

Gonna chase it with some Shiner Bock…

workingclass artist

Well Fred I come from the land of CHILI…Is this as good as the variable Texas stye of Chili chased with the proper ice cold Mexican Beer and a good cornbread …. Just curious…..
In Texas a proper film of sweat while still hanging o to your taste buds is a sure sign of success…..

Fred C. Dobbs

Us Gatorboys have much more in common with Tick-suns than with Crackers.

Floridians say, “Hey! How y’all?” and Texans say, “Hi! Hire yew?”

Georgia, MS, the Carolinas, VA, Alabama… can’t figure out what those people are saying.

I learnt my grillin’ skills in Texas, where barbecue is a Noun. Still have Mesquite blocks FEDEX’ed in for smoking twice a year.

Walk into a city “BBQ” joint and ask for hot links…watch their little eyes glaze over.

In 1995, I almost bought a house in San Antonio. From the front porch I could see the distribution center for Pace salsa, and the rear had a view of a Lone Star brewery.

My re-model was going to include a 2″ line to each place, terminated with taps in my kitchen.

“God is everywhere. But He keeps His horses over by New Braunfels*.”

* Pronounced: New BRON-fuls, NOT, “New Brown Fells”
Fred C. Dobbs

No jalapenos in the cornbread in Florida, unless I make it.

Pussies.

workingclass artist

Well….SHEEEEEEEEEIT Fred who knew ? IMHO you have to have a mighty gift with a iron skillet and the sweetest of jpeps to make a good corn bread as you describe….Should taste like sweet cake with the right kind of bite…..Most folks don’t have the proper trainin.
Ever been to the chili cookoff…..

sonia

AND i am hill supporter ,,

i am poor moneywise ,,but rich with spirit,,religion,patriotism,,and intelligence and family values and i believe in keeping the family together

THANKS HILLARY for insipiring so many of us everyday ,,,,we love you

workingclass artist

Agree…But then if you have the POWER TO INVENT A RELIGION….Well I’d say rewriting history aint’ no big thang for a collossal intellect like Uncle Jeremiah….

Mary

Even more ironic: a British genealogical company researched Barak Obama’s family history, back centuries.

It reveals that while Obama claims he is descended from African Americans in Kenya, he’s actually descended from ARAB Africans who were heavily involved in the Arab slave trade in Africa, traveling back in caravans to deliverr those Blacks into slavery.

When slavery was discontinued, Barak’s family settled in Africa.

But his background IS more Arab than African, and his ancestors were slave traders.

workingclass artist

Here’s another irony for you….If you are of Cracker descent and your family has lived in the south since before the civil war….Odds are you have plenty of AA blood in the mix of the family tree….
Jefferson seems to have been a more typical cracker farmer in his tastes and behavior…..Given that we all descend from Africa the whole thing begins to be a bit silly…..

Northwest rain

True — the genetics of race is very interesting. Using the MtDNA from our mothers — and her mother — we all trace to one of seven women. And those women to a single women in Africa.

There are other DNA markers — and researchers have found that individuals who appear white, in fact according to their DNA they are black. And some people who appear black — their DNA shows that they have white DNA.

I read the article about Obama’s genealogy and add that to the fact that he grew up in Hawaii — well I guess he believes in the “drop of blood” theory.

Ah — and then we are back to the origins of the human species — Africa. Recent research shows that the blue eye gene is fairly recent (about a thousand years) and only one person had the mutant gene.

Rev. Wright lack of knowledge of history and basic science is astounding. He really has more in common with the white separatists up in Idaho and their cr*p about the “mud people”.

Hate doesn’t empower anyone.

Kevin

good grief… a genetic assay in no way shape or form can tell you what his ancestors did or did not do. So… you’re saying that all Arabs and all Arab Africans were involved in slave trading? Isn’t that the same as saying that all american whites whose ancestors lived during the time of slavery were all slave owners?

Too funny… you decry others for making blanket, unsupportable statements – then jump right in and make some for yourself.

workingclass artist

Kevin I would submit the case of Darfur and the Jangjweed ( sp ? )
This was more of a topical aside on the issues of recent discoveries.

Judith

Excellent point. How can they reconcile the fact that their own neighboring tribes were just as responsible for the plight of slavery as other people? And why are they still clinging to it?

Amanda

Judith, while war slaves (a “tradition” dating back thousands of years in any civilization) does not come close to the forced slavery and relocation in millions done by Europeans, there is no question that tribal warfare played a role in slave trade. However, because of Western guilt about slavery, this aspect is rarely talked about.
What slave trade did to Africa was a tragedy, because the strongest, the youngest were shipped to plantations in South America, and the islands, and later in North America. And then came colonization (Scramble for Africa in the 19th century) which sealed the fate.
However, we all have African blood in our hands; black, whites, christians, muslims.

Judith

You are right, Amanda. I guess my point is that we should have already moved far beyond anger and hostility. My generation didn’t have anything to do with what happened centuries ago. We can honor, we can remember…but I just don’t understand the hate and anger many generations removed. I agree with Northwest rain…hate doesn’t empower anyone.

Fred C. Dobbs

>>> Not to mention that in muslim Nigeria, slavery is still “legal”.

Still widely practiced in the Sudan and Angola, as well.

jes

He’s implying that whites put him and his people into chains and slavery. But that was over two hundred years ago which Wright choses to ignore. It doesn’t fit into his victim mentality.

Since Wright is religious, he should have taken these words into consideration before he spoke:

Pr 16:18 “Pride goeth before destruction, and an haughty spirit before a fall.”

jwrjr

Of course we will all be seeing reports about this on the evening news … right?
http://rezkowatch.blogspot.com Artificial Intelligence

Marked the calendar. Popping the cork and pouring the bubbly. Ein prosit!
John

Get ready for the “Rev Wright was magnificent,” “Rev. Wright is forcing us to examine ourselves,” and my personal favorite, “I agree with pretty much everything the Rev. Wright said” (that last one is an Air America Exclusive, I believe.)

This should stick a great big needle into the Obama balloon. I suspect the media thinks so, which is why on Ed Schultz and other places I’m being told why Hillary can’t win the nomination “even if she pulls out a victory in North Carolina..”

http://hyper-educated-uppity-woman.blogspot.com Uppity

Tell Reverend Wright to Examine This.

http://d2route.wordpress.com/ dcblogger

Will Barack’s Jewish supporters swallow Wright’s praise for Louis Farrakhan?

It depends on whether Obama’s Jewish supporters understand that Wright and Obama are two different people. It might depend on whether Obama’s Jewish supporters have differences with their Rabbi. It might also depend on what Obama’s Jewish supporters think of Clinton’s links to Ivanwald. Really, I don’t think this is the silver bullet you think it is.

John

Good boy. Go collect your money now.

At least try to be consistent- “Wright and Obama are two different people,” but you want us to check out Clinton’s links to Ivanwald? Why? Aren’t they “different people” too?

I miss the good old days, when the Obamabot trolls venturing onto this site at least made an effort.
pm317

Silver bullet or not, he is a risk we the democrats cannot afford to take
http://newsbusters.org/blogs/mark-finkelstein/
John

It might depend on whether Obama’s Jewish supporters have differences with their Rabbi.

Huh? What the hell does that mean? You mean that Rabbis will argue against Obama, but Jewish supporters of Obama will ignore them? Or they’ll act out on their differences by voting for Obama? Or they’ll find some connection between their differences with their rabbis and Obama’s alleged differences with the Rev. Wright?

Do you even KNOW what you mean. or do you just post what you are told?

Northwest rain

Cult members are beyond thinking for themselves.

simon, too

Except Wright has endorsed Hamas,(even if only by printing and approving the manifesto in his church bulletin) and Hamas has murdered innocent, civilian Jews.

And let’s not even go into Auchi, Rezko or Syria, et al.

And the quote “did not make me this color?”

I understand it to mean black skin is seen as a burden, reading within the context of the quote.

In terms of racism, yes, but in terms of self?

No.

Interesting, very very sad man.

simon, too

In terms of racism, I mean the racism exhibited toward people of color, simply because of skin pigment, racism is never justified.
ginaswo

maybe the Louis F ‘did not make me this color’, is a reference to hating God from David Cone (sp?) black liberation theology that Wright is always praising? There is a God that cannot be loved that must be hated in those readings IIRC

http://hyper-educated-uppity-woman.blogspot.com Uppity

I don’t know any Jewish supporters of Obama. They all think he wants to reverse the direction of the gunfire, considering his associations in the middle east, including his Gaza City cold call center. Nope. Yhey aren’t thinking what you are saying at all. But then you know that.

hillarysmygirl

I know two Jewish supporters of Obama. But they are New York 60′s liberals who supported McGovern and are now self-declared atheists. Oh, and they’re addicted to prescription drugs and crazy as LOONS.

hillarysmygirl

Wait, I know a third. But he went to Harvard and as far as he’s concerned, anyone who could be an editor of the Harvard Law Review deserves to be President.

Jason

Do you know any jews? The majority of the ones I know who are my age (mid 30s) are supporting Obama and can’t stand Hillary. The younger ones are overwhelmingly supporting Obama. Then again, I live in NYC so I know a lot of jews.

At the same time, the older jews I know are generally (but not exclusively) supporting Hillary, typically because a) she’s a woman, b) she has more experience or c) he’s black. Unfortunately b is the minority.

I’m not even sure why anyone cares what the jewish voters think, we are only 2% of the population in the country, far less than hispanics or blacks.

Most jews don’t have Israel as their top priority.

workingclass artist

Well Jason I suggest you and your jewish friends do a little reading….Beyond the OBAMESSIAH campaign lit….

Jason

Yeah, we have, we’re the well educated ones, remember?

[before you blow up - that was a joke]

But I’m not sure I understand your point. I was responding to the point that no jews support Obama. Thats true and easily verifiable.

You can assume our support is ill informed or not well thought out but you’d be incorrect.
Jason

Yeah, we have, we’re the well educated ones, remember?

[before you blow up - that was a joke]

But I’m not sure I understand your point. I was responding to the point that no jews support Obama. That is not true and easily verifiable.

You can assume our support is ill informed or not well thought out but you’d be incorrect.

Fred C. Dobbs

Old Jews dream of Jerusalem, perhaps, and old, rich Jews send money to Israel.

Young Jews are often busy making a living, rearing children, etc.

The Fallacy of Composition can be really easy to unwittingly invoke here.

>>> we are only 2% of the population in the country,

But have a disproportionate share of the brains. If it weren’t for a leavening of the American populace with Jewish genes, we’d all be a bunch of spit-dribbling peckerwoods… truly, the Road Company of DELIVERANCE.

workingclass artist

Hey…..Fred some of those folks culd be my cracker cuzins….

workingclass artist

Jason….What I’m saying is that ANTI-SEMITICISM is on the rise in an alarming fashion around the Globe….Formen Mayor Koch has written extensively on the subject…..
Black Liberation Theology has anti-semetic patterns.
You should place no more trust in this fringe religion then you should in Mel Gibsons brand of lunatic ( lets repeal Vatican II and revert to mid-evil Catholicism ) UBER CONSERVATIVE FRINGE CATHOLICS….
In this theology ( Wrights ) Jews killed their Black Messiah just as the CRACKER ROMANS.
Extremism has no place in democracy. Extremism in religion is dangerous…I’m Catholic and our church has a long and bloody history in this regard…..The RCC has been trying for over 20 yars to heal the rift with our theological mother faith….Judaism…..

Jason

We are aware that antisemitism is on the rise around the globe. I’m not condoning Reverand Wright’s speech.

If that was a major factor in the election, which it is not, I’d suggest that Obama in the white house results in a net decrease in the overall level of antisemitism in the world.

I appreciate and commend you and your church for making amends and agree completely with your point about extremism.

I also do not believe that Obama shares his pastor’s views.

workingclass artist

Well Jason…it’s your gamble….And I’ll let you roll it.

Fred C. Dobbs

I have a cousin called, “Bubba” Shimkis.

Also, in North Las Vegas, there’s a small electronics company owner (sells to the Air Force) with the most American of names: “Buck” Fong.

:::::::::::

This really beautiful woman sat down next to me on the bus and said, “I shouldn’t be telling you this, but I only get it off with Jewish cowboys.”

I said: “Howdy, ma’am. I’m Bucky Horowitz!”

(from Steven Wright)

http://hyper-educated-uppity-woman.blogspot.com Uppity

Ah Obama’s base!

hillarysmygirl

I HATE when people try to place Hillary’s or Obama’s voters into categories! I wasn’t going to dignify Jason’s reply to my comment but I have to clarify what I said and respond to his generalization:

I know lots of Jewish people, too, Jason! And of them all, only three are voting for Obama. They are older, rich, established businesspeople…not your “typical” Obama voters according to you and to CNN’s polls. My husband and I are also not your “typical” Hillary voters: we’re college educated, I’m a minority and my husband is Jewish, we’re also successful in our professions.

I mostly wanted to respond because of my vow to donate to Hillary every time an Elitist posted. So THANKS…CHA-CHING!!

Jason

Well, clearly you are a statistical anomaly. I guess we’ll just have to look at the polls which do not show that jews clearly prefer HRC over Obama or that they would vote for McCain over Obama.

I’m not sure how any of that makes me an elitist, but feel free to keep throwing your money after a losing cause.

Reverend Wrong

One can find polls to justify nearly any position. They don’t matter anyway as Obama has lost the hearts and minds of the American heartland by his own hand. And of course you disagree. Since neither one of us have a crystal ball, we’ll see.

Reverend Wrong

By the way many of the polls about Obama continue to be wrong when we have something real to measure them against like the exit polls in PA were off quite a bit from the final result.

Northwest rain

Josh Marshall — Talking Points Memo —

has made a point to let his readers know he is Jewish. When the Rev. Wright stuff started hitting the fan — I kept wondering when Josh would turn away from the Koolaid.

beebop

I for one really really really regret that Jimmy Carter held up his endorsement. That would just make this over the top.

http://hyper-educated-uppity-woman.blogspot.com Uppity

I remember the gas lines at the pump under Jimmy. Odd and even days.

http://Supergram.blogspot.com Melissa

Damn those facts! I remember those days as well, long,long lines and sometimes a max on the number of gallons you could buy. Rationing is never fun.
Northwest rain

Also gas rationing under Nixon — I was in Maryland at the time. Speed limit dropped to 55.

Also under Nixon.

Carter era gas rationing? Don’t remember that happening in Washington State. Could be the state you were living in impacted the gas rationing?

Reverend Wrong

It depends on whether Obama’s Jewish supporters understand that Wright and Obama are two different people.

I think most do see them as “one person” (joined at the hip on a deep level which is what Larry’s point was if you bothered to read his excellent post).

Thanks!

Reverend Wrong

And this pitiful attempt to separate Obama from his master only shows us you are desperate to do so,
http://hyper-educated-uppity-woman.blogspot.com Uppity

We are a product of those who teach us.

Reverend Wrong

“We are a product of those who teach us.” Agreed and I will add:

Those who have the strong inner knowledge to know they must break away from bad teachers are the only people suitable to be president. Obama does not posses the judgment required to know a good teacher from a bad one.

Reverend Wrong

And related: Obama does not understand he is being totally manipulated by some of the very same people kissing his egotistical ass. He has no clue he is being walked or better image is a marionette.

stodghie

naw, the jewish community knows their friends and enemies. barry, your contributions will have a slow down and rightfully so.

http://thehorizontalworld.blogspot.com/ Mary Jo Kopechne

I think THIS will be on national news. He was speaking to the National Press Club.

This is the sentence that stuns me:

American Urban Radio’s April Ryan, confirmed that Wright’s security was provided by bodyguards from Farrakhan’s Nation of Islam.

Reverend Wrong

Oh great! Farrakhan’s Nation of Islam can provide Obama’s security then and save us taxpayers the expense.
wry

why do you think Barack is always wearing those skinny black suits? He might as well wear a bow tie.
That and the Jay Z references disgust me.
Catime

Having security provided by the “Fruits of Islam” is nothing new for Chicagoans. Jesse Jackson also uses them for protection.

Joe

The more Wright opens his trap, the more he sinks Obama. Therefore let’s encourage him to keep speaking in public!
Kefa

Axelrod and Dean had better come up with something soon.
Clinton has played this well by being strong and not caving in. Well done My Lady.
miriam

It’s really too late for Barack Obama to come to his senses and denounce Wright. Whether the black community agrees with the pastor or not (and I think most of them do not, since Wright’s church does not typlify black churches in most of the country) many blacks will find it offensive, to say nothing of disloyal, if Obama now tries to distance himself from his very long relationship with Wright. And frankly, I think most of us are missing Wright’s main point: He is not concerned with Obama’s political future; he is concerned with Obama’s soul. Otherwise, since he is not a stupid man, he would have toned down his rhetoric.

Victor

I don’t think Reverend Wright is concerned about either Obama’s political career or immortal soul. Reverend Wright is trapped in the past. His only concern is fighting the battles that raged in the 1960s, and he doesn’t care who he uses to do so. Honestly, I was somewhat pissed off when I first heard his sermons. Now I pity him.

http://hyper-educated-uppity-woman.blogspot.com Uppity

Specifically, 1968.

workingclass artist

Well….I don’t see any other way for Wright to stand out as a preacher without the Black Separatist Rhetoric and Theology.
It’s not like this guy is a BRIGHT SHINING THEOLOGICAL ACADEMIC STAR…..Is it ?
This guy gets his support based on his political message…..

John

I’m certain that Rev. Wright IS concerned about Barack Obama’s political career. He wants it to fail. Because after all, how does he gain new adherents to his Church of Perpetual Anger and Victimhood of a black man is in the White House?

Sorry, Barack, but you didn’t choose your Spiritual Advisor well enough.

http://takeaction.wordpress.com/ A.Citizen

A true testimony to Barry’s ‘judgment’. Honestly, the guy has got to be the dumbest President of the Harvard Law Review evah!

Hahhhahhhaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhahhhhhhhaaaaaaaahhhh!

hillarysmygirl

Ah think book lurnin’ ain’t gud preparashun for the gud sens yew need too be prezident, but whut do ah know, ah ain’t got no eduwkashun, ah gess, cuz ah voted fur Hillary…yep.

Reverend Wrong

he is concerned with Obama’s soul.

Yuch! That is akin to Lucifer himself watching over his soul. Wright is a poser and a fossil peddling tired old snake-oil, And it is Obama’s lack of judgment on all of this that makes him unfit for office. I hope he loses his Senate seat.

http://thehorizontalworld.blogspot.com/ Mary Jo Kopechne

dcblogger, that is old news, disavowed by MJ herself sometime ago.

Jeez though, I can well imagine that the trolls have their marching orders now. Obama must be crapping his pants.
John

Here’s the “argument” that ticks me off the most- “even if Hillary wins Indiana and North Carolina, she’ll probably only gain a few delegate votes on Obama, it won’t make any difference”- as if Delegates are like points in a football game, once you have them, you can’t lose them.

Doesn’t work like that, dumbasses. The delegates Obama has today he will not have tomorrow if Wright keeps up this shit (keep it up, Rev!) They aren’t in the bank. My guess is that you get that, but you don’t want to admit it, because the thought of someone actually leaving St Barack is just too painful and unbelievable for you.

grtphoto

you know what, the game analogy is right on, it’s like they are fixated on “the win” and not the fight for the country. I am so sick of “my canidate is better” dialogue. Obama supporters don’t get it.

http://hyper-educated-uppity-woman.blogspot.com Uppity

Somebody forgot to tell Obama that there is a General Election. Or perhaps he thinks he can threaten us all into voting for him, kind of like a Caucus. It doesn’t work that way.

beebop

What is really rich? They seem to think that Hillary is being tough. Wait until they see how the former Prisoner of War — who by the way REALLY understands waterboarding — deals with these issues. He won’t be the least impressed by the former Marine Wright and the Obamabrat.
grtphoto

exactly right, he doesn’t know how to run a national campaign, he cannot control the entire electorate.

Jason

Doesn’t know how to run a campaign? Really? Last time I checked, he was winning. So what does that say about HRC’s ability to run a national campaign?

Nag

While writing this, Wright is on CNN and yes, he is indeed batshit crazy. I wonder who’s gonna save Obama’s ass now? Oh, Obama’s fans saying ‘go back to the issues’… HA! Obama can’t compete with Hillary when it comes to the issues. He can always go back to the Happy Faced Hopey Changey Guy. Oh Lord! anything but that.

(Uppity’s favorite parts of speech… hopey & changey):)

beebop

Hopey and Changey kind of get lost now in the din of the batshit crazy Rev ….

http://hyper-educated-uppity-woman.blogspot.com Uppity

“White Folks! You owe us the whole country!”

–Louis Farrakhan

Get it now?

workingclass artist

OH NO !….. How will all us CRACKERS fit in Utah…..

Fred C. Dobbs

There’s reputed to be a State Law making it unlawful to be Black in Utah, unless you are holding a basketball.

That aside, the place is chock-a-block with gorgeous girls with straight teeth who think that getting married and having kids is just the shits.

Gloria Allred would probably have to chase ambulances in Salt Lake City.

workingclass artist

Fred… you made me squirt soda through my nose….That was good…a bonafied belly laugh…..

Northwest rain

And the Native American — American Indians — are thrown under the bus?

workingclass artist

UTAH is a state that will surely shrink….No ?

hillarysmygirl

Hopey Changey, Batshit crazy. New campaign slogan?

The hits just keep on coming!
may not have to leave party

i quite like it

hopey
changey
batshit
crazy
go
obamaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!!!!!!!!!

of course, i was never a cheerleader, so maybe i got the cadence wrong.

may not have to leave party

btw, by go obama i meant go, obama. go to illinois, go to kenya, go anywhere, just go.

mahaska

and Kevin, you can go with him

wry

it’s because white people have a different rhythm.

may not have to leave party

lol.
workingclass artist

LOL…..I can only dance listeing to punk rock where no skill beyond jumping spastically is involved….and bag pipes….How very working class irish centric of me….
hillarysmygirl

LOL!
On the 1 and 3, everybody now…

ginaswo

maybe it’s b/c you are white and have no natural rythm? LOL
no you got the beat exactly right from what I remember!

allimom99

“Back to the issues?” Hard to see him doing that since he never went there in the first place, I’m making popcorn!
flyarm

oh heck on cnn they just showed Obama talking in NC about sub standard housing..who the hell is this guy fooling..they must be the most pathetic easily fooled idiots in this country..kinda remind me of the zbush fools snd sheeple!

Please save us from this demise further!

fly

Kefa

This is still just the tip of Obama’s iceberg…..there is lots more.

http://hyper-educated-uppity-woman.blogspot.com Uppity

McCain alluded to that. He mentioned here “Is more”. I bet they are sitting on a Wright powder keg.

beebop

Maybe about his military service …

Never a good idea to spit in Darth’s direction imho

http://hyper-educated-uppity-woman.blogspot.com Uppity

No, he meant about Wright. He implied there is more.

workingclass artist

Hmmmm…….Perhaps Jerry and Lou have been donating to middle eastern brethren ?……Things that make you go Hmmmmm….
beebop

That’s what I mean … Wright’s time as a marine ….

mahaska

wait till the republicans chime in. If BO thinks this is tough, he ain’t seen nothin’ yet.

dcmediagirl

There has been no campaign in the young history of the 527s that has provided such rich material for oppo purposes. Just release 30 second and one minute edits of the “Reverend” Wright’s quotes and your work is done, with a simple graphic at the end encouraging the viewer to “Vote (insert name of Republican candidate here) in November”. At this rate the Democrats could not only lose the presidency but control of Congress – AGAIN. Are we quite certain that the “Reverend” Wright isn’t on the RNC’s payroll? He’s making their work way, WAY too easy.

pm317

Yes, very easy. They don’t even have to spend big bucks on it — see the MS mayoral ad?
http://hyper-educated-uppity-woman.blogspot.com Uppity

Oh I kind of think Ayers and Dohrn will be in there, along with his election Cold Call Center in Gaza City.
http://hyper-educated-uppity-woman.blogspot.com Uppity

This Narcissist will cost us four years because mccain will win. He might not even have to leave the house when the 527s start up.

http://IthinkIfeel... Tricia

Yikes! If this person was Obama’s spirutual advisor for 20 years, I don’t want him anywhere near the White House or my kids!

workingclass artist

There is no spirituality in FASCISM…. the two are mutually exclusive….
Philosophically speaking of course….However FASCISM can be made into a RELIGION….WORKED FOR ADOLF AND THE GANG…..No ?

http://hyper-educated-uppity-woman.blogspot.com Uppity

“Hitler was a great leader”

—Louis Farrakhan

workingclass artist

As a Catholic….I found the use of symbols by Adolf and the gang to be particularly disturbing and deadly effective….Most of the originators were raised Catholic and so understood the power of symbols….Sad but true…..Alas…..Any one can abuse anything…..

http://d2route.wordpress.com/ dcblogger

American Urban Radio’s April Ryan, confirmed that Wright’s security was provided by bodyguards from Farrakhan’s Nation of Islam.

Really? Big surprise.
http://d2route.wordpress.com/ dcblogger

Jeez though, I can well imagine that the trolls have their marching orders now. Obama must be crapping his pants.

I expect that sort of thing at the Orange Frat House, but elsewhere I expect better. Because someone disagrees with you it follow that not only must they be a an Obama supporter, but a paid troll to boot. Shame on you, shame on you.

beebop

Yeah … well, sorry to disappoint you but chalk it up to months of being called cracker racist and whore. It kind wears your humanity back to the nub.
simon, too

dc blogger, when one reads various blogs, patterns become pretty obvious.

Like Republican talking points, very very easy to spot, kind of like spam, they are there, every time you open your mailbox, another Obama “theme of the day” to be “discussed” on the Internet, and with the media.

She’s right, I’m expecting it, too, but as they’re spinning themselves into oblivion now, well, it will be interesting to see how they adapt.

With a Kevin and Jeff and a K$$?

heh.
http://hyper-educated-uppity-woman.blogspot.com Uppity

Bug off. Nobody cares what you think. It’s people like you who drove us away from the Orange so why don’t you just go back over there right now?
stodghie

that’s rich! you little obamacons talking about shame!

Mel

Hmmmm now was that Bitter comment Obama made in Sf about small town folks or small minded folks like Wright?
Nobama

Well, you have one appalled Jew right here. But then, knowing this stuff for some time now, I’ve been appalled for some time now.

The damning thing is that Obama sat in that Cone-based church for 20 years. If you think what Wright is saying is bad, you should get a load of what Cone’s Black Liberation Theology is all about. Wright is a disciple of Cone.

Larry, thanks for helping people get a clue.

http://hyper-educated-uppity-woman.blogspot.com Uppity

Exactly. Cone framed Black Liberation Theology in 1968. 1968 was a most traumatic year, including MLK and JFK assassinations. Then came the infamous demonstrations at the Democratic convention, thus we are seeing RECREATE68. I am telling you that people in a time warp are recreating that time. That was the year that also gave us Richard Nixon because the whackjobs were so violent and nasty that they scared Americans more than the viet nam war did. Then in 1972, same thing. Same as the old hippies doing it today, only they are using our youth as their pawns.

eezo

If Rev Wright was living in my town, he would be called the “Village Idiot”.

beebop

Well, Chicago’s in on the loose.

Hillary is the Best

did u know ,,,,,wright,,oprah,,,michelle,,,farrahkhan,,rezko,,obama,,were all in chicago ,,living as friends

beebop

Don’t forget their token white friends Mr. and Mrs. Ayers!

John

If there is in fact a Black Protestant Church in the United States that does not preach victimhood and “God Damn America” (and of course, there is) I fully expect to see it’s ministers crowding the airwaves over the next week or so to declare that the Rev. Jeremiah Wright does NOT speak for that Church.

Who’s going to step up to the mike first? Sure, you’ll have to duck the bullets of Wright’s Nation of Islam bodyguards (remember Malcolm X) but at least you’ll be doing God’s work in defending your faith from this nutcase.
jd

Why don’t someone ask Rev Wrong if Obama was present when he preached ? Obama has repeatedly denied it so it is time for Rev Wrong to confirm or deny it as well.

Hillary is the Best

i agree

why not ask him ?????????????/
flyarm

ahhh Obama admitted he watched all of Wrights tapes..they taped all his sermons..and they were all for sale..but Obama admitted before this shit storm that he watched all his tapes.

So now feigning ignorance just doesn’t sell.

fly

scott

OT

This is FROM CNN’s Jack Cafferty:She says that she will debate him any place at any time, adding that it could even be done on the back of a flat-bed truck. He would probably prefer to run over her with a flat-bed truck at this point.

What is with MSM continous use of imagery in which Sen. Clinton is killed to express an idea?

She is a former First Lady and a US Senator she deserver a bit more respect than that.

Hillary is the Best

they are all boys with peanut balls who have insecurity of thier own and they even feel lesser sitting in the same room with hillary ,,,,,,,

hillary can debate anybody and anyone at any time ….boys with penia,,penia,,,,can,t handle that ,,i mean boys in media not all boys,,

beebop

But in person — as when she was on olbamamann’s show — they are nothing but sweetness and lice. At least Republicans don’t PRETEND to your face. They have the guts to dislike you all of the time. KO was probably giving her the finger under his desk like any other prepubescent.

http://hyper-educated-uppity-woman.blogspot.com Uppity

Oh Cafferty, the wrinkled up old guy who has a face for radio. I never watch him, he always sounds like he has a gas pocket. I bet his wife left him a long time ago. You see, 99 percent of the sexy memories that live longest in caffery’s mind never really happened and he blames women for that. Ignore him. He’s afraid his pee pee is going to fall off if a woman is in charge.
it’snotme

OMG. Isn’t there a LAW stating you cannot threaten harm to any ex-First Lady or suggesting someone else does? This is the 2nd time in a week these MALE OBAMA THUGS have suggested Hillary Clinton, ex-First Lady, be harmed! Surely this is something the SS would be interested in, no? I detest Jack Cafferty and KO and Chris Matthews and David Shuster and Mika Brzezinski and, and, and…there’s a never-ending list of Obamaroids in the MSM to detest.:(
mimi

Why did CNN renew this slimeball’s contract. He is downright odious in his constant offensive remarks leveled at Senator Clinton. I’d like to meet him in front of the CNN building and beat the crap out of him. Fucker!

ginaswo

please call CNN

404 827 1500

Viewer Complaint Line

http://thehorizontalworld.blogspot.com/ Mary Jo Kopechne

These media men use metaphors and images of violence against Hillary as if it’s okay. Olbermann, now Cafferty.

Everyone, please write the bastard and tell him it’s NOT okay.

http://caffertyfile.blogs.cnn.com/2008/04/28/should-obama-have-accepted-another-debate/
http://thehorizontalworld.blogspot.com/ Mary Jo Kopechne

Please everyone, write to Cafferty and tell him it’s NOT okay to use violent images and metaphors to talk about Hillary (or any woman).

http://caffertyfile.blogs.cnn.com/2008/04/28/should-obama-have-accepted-another-debate/
Andy

He would probably prefer to run over her with a flat-bed truck at this point.

WHOA!!! That is outrageous. How can this be that these people can talk like that on TV? Are they completly mad? This is soooo out of bounds…
workingclass artist

Oooooohhhhh……Whoopie has got to be upset over that…..
mahaska

so he’s a murderer too?

Poor White

Obama got a New Mexico superdelegate support today .. I cannot believe someone supporting Obama with so much talk going on about Obama’s pastor.

If DNC gets Obama, I will be switching party to vote for McCain.

Reverend Wrong

Obama got a New Mexico superdelegate support today

The keep some SDs lined up and release the info on bad news days. No reason for concern. In fact, this shows us the Obama campaign is VERY CONCERNED.

beebop

Wouldn’t it be a RIP if the guy now wanted to change his mind? ” uh … Barry?”
simon, too

Agreed, I would expect more SD’s to announce, these deals were probably made months ago.

Might have even been an exchange of money, and therefore harder for the SD to back out.

http://vbonnaire.wordpress.com vbonnaire

The most troubling thing for me as a Democrat, is how Obama has tried to “distance” himself. After listening to a pastor for 20 years?

We do not have time in America for a politics of division and intolerance on this scale after the last eight years. Here is the LAT, breaking…

http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-na-campaign29apr29,0,5246651.story
Hillary is the Best

Obama “Bored” With Campaign

——————————————————————————–

Quote:
In interviews with several associates and aides, Mr. Obama was described as bored with the campaign against Mrs. Clinton and eager to move into the general election against Senator John McCain of Arizona, the presumptive Republican nominee.

http://www.talkleft.com/story/2008/4/28/105614/437

Okay, can you drop out now?:rolle yes:

http://hyper-educated-uppity-woman.blogspot.com Uppity

What an arrogant narcissistic asshole. He will NEVER be president.

workingclass artist

He is a racalcitrant reprobate as are his handlers…They dismiss 3/4 of the country…..

OBSP

Does that remind you of someone else? Initials are GWB.

typicalbubba

This is what Obama gets for playing the race deck. It started with the faux outrage over Clinton comparing herself to Lyndon Johnson – a modest claim compared to Obama’s claim to be MLK. She only pointed out that without the policy wonk, the vision thing wouldn’t have gotten done. Media goes berserk and starts claiming the Clintons are race baiting.

The Clintons are race baiting? What the hell is Rev. Wrong doing? Last I heard truckers were on strike because diesel is $4/gal., and instead of helping them and everyone else struggling in this economy, they are going to be lectured on white privilege.

Already the First Black President, once beloved, is now portrayed as a cracker. It took me back to 2000 when the Clintons left office. Remember the propaganda that the Clintons “stole the silverware” and were all but called white trash from Arkansas? I guess that gave the current propaganda a leg up because bloggers are actually referring to that story as if it was true. It’s the only politically correct bigotry left.
Hillary is the Best

Obama “Bored” With Campaign

——————————————————————————–

Quote:
In interviews with several associates and aides, Mr. Obama was described as bored with the campaign against Mrs. Clinton and eager to move into the general election against Senator John McCain of Arizona, the presumptive Republican nominee.

http://www.talkleft.com/story/2008/4/28/105614/437

Okay, can you drop out now?:

hillarysmygirl

Howard Dean has called for him or Hillary to drop out after the last primary in June:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/04/28/howard-dean-obama-or-clin_n_98916.html

Howard, shut the F*CK UP!

Well, it seems this IS the end of Obama, because everybody’s jumping ship:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/04/24/media-jump-ship-from-obam_n_98545.html

Everybody got their floaties and wings? Okay, one, two, weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!
hillarysmygirl

I’m boooooooored…I’m tiwed and mildly uncomfortable…can’t I just eat my waffle?

http://d2route.wordpress.com/ dcblogger

dc blogger, when one reads various blogs, patterns become pretty obvious.

Let me guess, you don’t read my blog, Corrent Wire, or any other blog where I comment. I am just making a good faith attempt to make some points which I think are worthy of your consideration.

Not everybody who disagrees with a particular post is an Obama supporter or even less a paid troll.

sheesh

beebop

Please.

One narcicist in one day is sufficient. You might have to get in line after Reverend Wright. He’s keeping people pretty busy. Maybe you’d like to come back on another day and have B-Rob of Fritz of one of the regular trolls introduce you?
simon, too

I don’t mind read, dc blogger, how was I to know where you post?

And my point still stands.

This is one of those situations we will have to agree to disagree.

And I did read your blog, btw, perhaps you should mention, when you post, you have a blog, as does “universal.”

Not everyone knows to click the blue, and it would widen the discussion…

And again, it is very very easy to spot a pattern, esp for anyone who has studied literature, art or music.

In fact, some say the US government TRAINS people to look for patterns, right?

To spot the pedantic no talent has been trolls, working for stupid little PR companies, selling terrorist connected candidates?

because that’s what he is.

simon, too

Really, be careful which doors you open.

There seems to be this impression the Internet is wide open, anyone can hide anything, and that’s just not true.

It’s only a matter of WHEN they call you in it.

workingclass artist

I like your blog…dc

http://paganpower.wordpress.com/ Pagan Power

I read your diary and wondered in disbelief that it couldn’t possibly be true. Then I followed the link to the Dana Milbank article and my jaw nearly dropped to the floor.

This man is not just some crazy uncle with radical ideas. He is a lunatic with a vast array of supporters. And he and they are very dangerous.

How can anyone in their right mind stand behind this man? How can anyone in their right mind agree that he represents the “black church”? And if he does, doesn’t that tell us that race relations in the USA are much worse than many of us ever imagined them to be?

I am so taken aback by these many comments from this madman who claims to speak for and of God. He represents no divine being I have ever heard of. Not even remotely.

Pagan Power

Hope

Pagan,
I think Rev Wright is an absolute opportunist. I don’t see him as a lunatic reeally , but a very savvy, mean-spirited, arrogant tyrant. I just watched his entire question and answer dialogue on C-Span. This man honestly feels himself to be a great leader, a megalomaniac if you will.

I think he’s just done Obama in for good though. This is not going to go away. And Obama’s response is very weak indeed which doesn’t appear well to the general public. I keep thinking “Jimmy Carter”.

BUCKSKIN711

if this rev. crap doesnt take obama down now, i sure dont know what will..its all over the news. that surprizes me that they dont like the revs. comments. and thens theres al sharpton threatening to shut down new york city because of the acquittal of those cops that shot bell. its starting to feel like the blacks are on the verge of major rioting knowing obama is going down. nevermind, he did it to himself. wow, he started a race war, how cunning he is.
http://noquarterusa.net/ SusanUnPC

I submitted this to REAL CLEAR POLITICS Reader Articles.

If you go there and vote, Larry’s piece will be elevated to the home page of Real Clear Politics. (You can sign up very easily if you’re not registered — their sign-up system is fast and not annoying.)

JoeySky

done

ginaswo

done!

may not have to leave party

did. recommend everyone go there and vote for the articles that draw attention to obama the idiot’s idiocy – need to keep them in the top 4 so they show up on the main page.
Andy

Done !! C’on people VOTE it’s up to 23 votes; need more, registering is trivial, go vote.
http://Supergram.blogspot.com Melissa

Done- actually went there from Hillary’s voice and then here. Great article.
Personally, I hope Wright keeps on with his diarhhea of the mouth. to paraphrase
“Every time Wright pops off, Obama loses a vote.”

Nicole

Larry, I think you’re correct, his candidacy is doomed. Thank god Hillary isn’t another Kerry and is smart and focused enough to keep on going for as long as possible. She knew he was deeply flawed–for many reasons.

It could be that Obama’s most enduring legacy, coming out of this 2008 primary election, is that his campaign both highlighted and sharpened the racial divide in America.
Reverend Wrong

Is it possible more people have profound disdain for Obama than they have for Bush? I am beginning to think so! Personally, I see Obama more dangerous than Bush with all these extremely creepy things in his past that we know of. And I agree its only the tip of the iceberg. But no worries Jeff, my words only have a “infinitesimal impact” anyway.

B-Rob

Is it possible more people have profound disdain for Obama than they have for Bush?

As soon as Obama has negatives as high as the Warrior Queen of Tuzlah, you can consider this question. Until then, the only possible response is sustained laughter.

workingclass artist

B-Rob….Si me rogas, potes abire et tu ipse cacare….And do it on your way back to GAZA….Shapin up to be a FINE WEEK for Sen. Clinton….
beebop

Ringing a little hollow is it blob?

What a shiteous day isn’t it?

When was the last day he wonanything?

He’s got to be smoking again, which means that Michelle is making Hillary look friendly, no?

He threw up an airballin Indiana over the weekend, after bragging about his round ball creds.

The media is pegging Indiana as “home court” advantage since half of the state gets its tv and newspapers from Chicago, so that’s good news, right? Kind of sets that bar there for him doesn’t it? And we know how well he does in “voting” states without major urban areas.

So, keep that laughing face if you can. Going to be a really tough week. Looks kinda like lots and lots and lots of news cycles lost to Reverend Wright and what the hell Barry was doin’ sittin in those pews all those years …
Reverend Wrong

You trust polls without question? I sure don’t. Who does these polls? How were the questions asked?

I expressed my feelings. People polled may not express their true feelings. Obama does do worse than the polls indicate.

I think your beef is with my sentiment and trying to ridicule me only makes me wonder more if indeed I might be correct or at least on to something. Thanks!

B-Rob

The Clintons are race baiting? What the hell is Rev. Wrong doing?

The last I checked, Reverend Wright was NOT running for office, but Obama and Hillary, the Warrior Queen of Tuzlah, are. If she has Bill out there as a surrogate, she has to answer for that judgment . . . as well as the judgment of statements made by Bob “Shake yo’ Ass” Johnson, Bill “Obama may be a drug dealer” Shaneeen, the nutty aunt in the attic, Gerry Ferraro (geez . . . haven’t seen HER lately, have we), and her own mouth. Just as Barack has to account for himself, his wife and his staffers.

But Rev. Wright? No, that is not on Obama. Because what you Hill-bots are saying is “Barack Obama, the person leading in votes, delegates, states won and money raised should quit and leave the nomination to a less successful underachieving former First Lady because his former pastor is a nut.” That may make sense to you folks, but not to normal people . . . .

ebonyscrews

Obama should drop out ASAP. he doesn’t stand a chance in hell in an American general election. Damaged goods, buddy–you’ll get over it soon enough, rest assured.

beebop

No. B-lob and the obamabrats are invested in this. They bought all of the hopey changey shit and now they realize that the bag smells. It sucks to be them.

D Johnson

In other words, they bought the “hopium.”

B-Rob

You want him to drop out because he is the superior candidate and your underachieving candidate can’t beat him. Which is why you offer no rational argument, only the conclusion that he “can’t win in the general”. Geez . . . I am starting to think that the one post I saw is correct, that when you folks use the work “electable”, you really mean “White.”

Reverend Wrong

You want him to drop out because he is the superior candidate

If superior means superior lack of judgment, superior lack of originality and superior lack of critical thinking skills, yes!

when you folks use the work “electable”, you really mean “White.”

Oh the race card. You guys are crying wolf.

beebop

It never ceases to amaze me that unless we are being self-deprecating, the times we see “white” and “black” here are always in messages from the trolls …

http://NoQuarterUSA.net Larry Johnson

Superior candidate? Oh yeah, that’s why Barack won the vote in California, Texas, Ohio, Pennsylvania and Florida. What alternate universe do you guys live in? Seriously, this is beyond delusional. If you lose by 10 points in Indiana does that mean anything?

Manamongst Hussein

Who’s delusional Larry Why do you continue to list California…you could win the vote in the GE that’s if you were a registered Dem. Texas…delusional is saying you won when you didn’t as much as you may hate them NOW….caucuses are part of the process and he DID NOT lose TX. Aas for the other states we’ll definitely give you the one up on those…but to call the obvious majority of people delusional when your candidate is the one losing is ridiculous. Don’t you realize that an election is more than those states that matter to you. Stay in your bubble and vote republican if you will but stop shopping your hilarious rationalizations…no more talk of pledged delegates this week I see…you guys really need to heal and move on with your life. Some people do value the party…

After this is over you Susan and Taylor can go back to being republicans…or Ron paul fanatics after you get your Mellon Scaife check. You have a right to disagree with him but to call him delusional only shows how far you’ve fallen.

mimi

Obamapod people are everywhere. They are beyond delusional. They are GONE!
street_parade

Man ‘o’ man,

Because the states that Clinton wins in an ELECTION (not a party zealot caucus) are the states the DEMS have to win to win the GE. The states Obama has won (and he’s only gonna win one more) are the states that CNN already has colored red with a smiling picture of McCain next to them.

Fer Godsakes, BO is tied with McCain in Massachusetts! (MASSACHUSETTS!!!).

Reverend Wrong

Larry when the trolls whine loudest that is a measure of how well you did. Job well done!

workingclass artist

No we mean DEMOCRAT….BABY-O is no DEMOCRAT….
Semper in excrementum, sole profundum ui ariat….BROB you have got to be hurtin….Come up for air before it’s tooooo late……

Manamongst Hussein

You can’t possibly explain how he’s not…a Democrat. but I can name plenty of Republican playbook tactics Hillary has used…how about I got a sick pushpoll call from Hillary in Raleigh the other day…sick. You guys are acting just like Neocons ignoring the lies the, misspeaks, the dirty tactics.

Do you just say anything? And hope it’s true?

workingclass artist

A Democrat is interested in the WELFARE OF THE PARTY…..
BABY-O is interested in HIMSELF and the party is expediant for him…..I don’t consider neither Dean the Putz or Donnidiot to be DEMOCRATS they are proving by their actions daily that they don’t give a shit about the party or the OTHER 2/3 OF THE TRADITIONAL DEMOCRATIC BASE…..

workingclass artist

Agree Ebony….I’d say this provides excellent cover for moderate AA’s to jump the SS OBAMACIDE….

Jeff

“But Rev. Wright? No, that is not on Obama. Because what you Hill-bots are saying is “Barack Obama, the person leading in votes, delegates, states won and money raised should quit and leave the nomination to a less successful underachieving former First Lady because his former pastor is a nut.” That may make sense to you folks, but not to normal people . . . .”

Agreed, B-Rob.

JoeySky

You should be very proud of the money that George Soros raised for Obama. Very impressive indeed. How about the $ 15 million the lobbyists raised for him? So proud, so proud. Hopey, Changey, you can all believe in.

jd

nah, Obi aint taking no lobbyist money !!!

Reverend Wrong

Hello Jeff. You guys a tag-team?
sonia

Barack Obama on his refusal to wear a flag pin, now:

Obama then referred to the time last October, when a Cedar Rapids, Iowa, TV reporter asked him why he didn’t wear a flag pin.

“Then I was asked about this in Iowa,” Obama said. “And somebody said ‘Why don’t you wear a flag pin?’ I said, well, sometimes I do, sometimes I don’t. I said, although I will say that sometimes I notice that they’re people who wear flag pins but they don’t always act patriotic. And I was specifically referring to politicians, not individuals who wear flag pins, but politicians who you see wearing flag pins and then vote against funding for veterans, saying we can’t afford it.”

Barack Obama on his refusal to wear a flag pin, then:

(What Obama said last October was: “You know, the truth is that right after 9/11, I had a pin. Shortly after 9/11, particularly because as we’re talking about the Iraq War, that became a substitute for I think true patriotism, which is speaking out on issues that are of importance to our national security, I decided I won’t wear that pin on my chest. Instead, I’m going to try to tell the American people what I believe will make this country great, and hopefully that will be a testimony to my patriotism.”)

Obama then proceeds, in a magnificent example of hypocritical chutzpah, to call bloggers who accurately reported his words liars.

Obama continued, saying “so I make this comment. suddenly a bunch of these, you know, TV commentators and bloggers (say) ‘Obama is disrespecting people who wear flag pins.’ Well, that’s just not true. Also, another way of saying it is, it’s a lie.”

Obama’s two radically different versions of his reasons for not wearing the pin are there for you to read. Here’s our post about it at the time. You decide who’s telling the truth.

Manamongst Hussein

so let me get this straight…he’s not allow to not wear a flag pin. You folks are silly children…you sound like Trent Lott…or even worse…Rick Santorum.

You people are not to be taken serious.

Reverend Wrong

he’s not allow to not wear a flag pin.

Its fine by me if he does. I just won’t put the lives of my family in his hands.

You people are not to be taken serious.

I think you don’t really believe that in your heart as you are here with us.
flyarm

hey Hussein…

if we are not to be taken seriously Hussein..why the hell are you here?? oh yeah..that paycheck for so many posts to be a shit stirrer!!

Reverend Wrong

Don’t you mean “Reverend” Wright? By title he is but to most people he a poser and a fossil pedaling snake-oil.

The reality is in the American psyche (those people Obama pissed off at his SF fund raiser) Obama and Wright are joined at the hip and may as well be one person.

And you can repeat data all you want but Obama has lost the hearts and minds battle and Larry is correct in what he writes. It is only a matter of WHEN not IF.

B-Rob

And you can repeat data all you want . . .

The Clintonistas now resort to “faith based” political analysis. Sad . . . .

Obama has lost the hearts and minds battle and Larry is correct in what he writes.

And you evidence of this is . . .

Hill-bots: “Evidence? We ain’t got no evidence! We don’t need no stinking evidence!”

sonia

Jeremiah Wright – The Gift That Keeps On Giving
Personally I find Rev Jeremiah Wright a sad echo from a sad time in America. He, like so many other aging baby-boomer liberals is living in the glory days of the 60’s and 70’s. He is trying as hard as he can to stoke the fires of racism in the country – all in the name of Jesus no less. Truly a pathetic sight and a reminder of why the rest of us are glad to be living in a world were racism is just an echo and not a reality. For those still stuck in their own personal quagmires my condolences – but it is not America’s fault.

Jeremiah Wright has found his 15 minutes of fame and he plans to go out with fiery bluster as he impugns the character of one Barack Obama:

he Rev. Jeremiah Wright said Monday that he will try to change national policy by “coming after” Sen. Barack Obama (D-Ill.) if he is elected president.

The pastor also insisted Obama “didn’t denounce” him and “didn’t distance himself” from Wright’s controversial remarks, but “did what politicians do.”

Wright implied Obama still agrees with him by saying: “He had to distance himself, because he’s a politician, from what the media was saying I had said, which was [portrayed as] anti-American.”

Calling a politician a charlatan is nothing new, except when that pol is running as the anti-pol. Wright has just called Obama a charlatan – big surprise there – and he would know being his religious mentor for 20 years. Wright is going to jam his bitter, bible toting world view onto America and Obama no matter what the cost because he is on a mission. He is going to fix America once and for all and he will not stop until he gets the revenge he pathetically desires. The man is a lost cause folks.

As is the liberal movement. The anti-war baby-boomer liberals keep trying to resurrect Vietnam in Iraq. The feminist baby-boomer liberals keep trying to resurrect the male-female battles, and the Rev Wright type baby-boomers keep trying to ignite racism. They never got a chance to save America from these evils, the missed out on their Walter Mitty fantasies where they are the ones to save humanity. Wright has become so obsessed with his demi-god status he has grasped at weird and unsubstantiated studies which purport to upend everything the American Hero Rev Martin Luther King preached to a nation aching to leave racism in its past. Now he claims it is not the content of the character but the color of the skin which differentiates human beings. Truly a sad day for African Americans.

How much longer do the delusions of an aging and wailing generation have to poison this country? My generation and my kids generation don’t see races, they see people, friends, neighbors who happen to have different genetic codes. I am blessed to live in a neighborhood which is richly diverse, and we respect each other based on where we have come to be – Americans living the American dream and raising our families amongst some of the best people on the planet.

Why should we or our children destroy this piece of diverse co-existence simply to placate a bitter old man who has found a reason for his anger and hate in scripture? Clearly we see why Obama said bitter people run to the bible and church to assuage hate. For Wright and his ilk Jesus gives him a excuse to coddle and keep his anger alive. His ego is so invested in his anger he sees himself as a messenger of God, bringing the message of hate to a peaceful and happy country.

Thankfully what my kids and their friends see is a dinosaur who is bleating out his tired cries as he prepares to leave this world to their generation – who are going to simply look upon him as that crazy uncle who never did find a way to live in, and enjoy, the modern world. Reverend Wright may be stuck in the middle of the last century, but out children are building the world of the 21st century and have interest in moving backwards. Their friends are too dear to them to give them up for Ol’ Jeremiah and his disconnected rants.

Addendum: As usual once I write a post I figure out better ways of saying what I meant to communicate. What I wanted to make clear is it is my hope and prayers that the young folks under 30 do not let the views of this miserable man infect the hopes and aspirations they hold for their own future, for the world they are, or will be, building. I expect that my prayers will be answered on this matter, given what I know about the youngest generations coming behind the liberal baby boomers.

stodghie

i suggest your drop that bull about baby boomers. people are people no matter what their age. sure the rev has his issues, but frankly from what i have seen from the young obama supporters leaves shaking my head. geez! you are sewing discord with your comments.

Mel

Evidence oh you mean like Obama needing to sell a kitchen sink in his lousy speech on Race in an attempt to deflect his reason for attending Wrights vile church for 20 years to raise money from all his hammas supporters like Hatem El-hady! How does it feel really to have bought into an info-mercial candidate for president that is as useful a politician and person as a vego-matic?

B-Rob

A few thoughts:

How does it feel to have your candidate, having been handed more structural and financial advantages than any non-incumbent in history, getting bested by an “info-mercial candidate”? What does that say about HER viability, when people (including several of her husband’s cabinet members and her Senate collegues) would rather have a borderline unknown that her? At this rate, I am starting to wonder if Chelsea even voted for her!

Did you see today that Obama just gained another delegate from the Iowa caucuses he won . . . you know, caucuses . . . those things they have in almost half the states which your “experienced” candidate neglected to plan for?

Another thing: is Hillary paying her bills yet? She was stiffing a lot of people . . . expect Mark Penn, I guess. He may even want to waive his fees, seeing as (a) he planned a shitty approach to the election cycle, and (b) sought to parlay his access into more work with the Colombians.

Honestly . . . do you people even KNOW why the Warrior Queen of Tuzlah is losing? No, its not mysogynistic media, or Obama “unfairly” sending people to caucuses (which for Hillary’s performance should probably be pronounced “carcasses”). No, she is simply an unlikeable, hectoring presence . . . and her weasely husband, too. Why would anyone voluntarily subject themselves to four more years of that con-dependent drama?

http://hyper-educated-uppity-woman.blogspot.com Uppity

Enjoy yourself you typical miserable Obamazoid. Because it is assholes like you that will ensure that Obama will NEVER be president. Because unlike you, I have been around a few of these political blocks and I can easily predict exactly what will happen to him. The only thing you will have succeeded in doing is giving us four years of McCain, you stupid sycophant. Because it is people just like you who have made us hate Obama so much that we would vote for a slug like McCain and not even blink an eye.
beebop

You know the one thing you never discuss is policy.

You never come here and talk about Barack’s plans and how much better they are than Hillary’s. You must either not care about the “governing” part of a presidency or you concede that her platforms are superior to his — thus explaining why he doesn’t want to debate her although he’ll debate with unnamed people who are allegedly challenging his patriotism. But he’s not willing to have a real debate with the real person he’s competing against for the nomination.

His complaints about the ABC debate don’t ring true after the first 40 minutes. His answers were not well thought out and Charlie Gibson had to explain the ramifications of a 28% capital gains tax which he hedged on yesterday with Chris Wallace. He’s lazy on detail. He doesn’t prepare for a debate with someone he’s debated 20 times in the past. How the hell can anyone expect that he would do his homework on things critical or vital to the national interest? He has surrounded himself with rookies. Goolsbee? Samantha Powers? Mistake prone intellectuals with no track records — just like the candidate oddly enough now that I think about it.

I expect to see another spin back from you, Blob, because you can’t offer anything of substance here which is why I don’t find your posts normally provacative enough to merit a serious response.

Surprise me. Go off script and say something original. You might like it.
John

Hey B-bot, usually when people start posts with “A few thoughts,” they follow that with….a few thoughts.

I see no evidence of thought in your post.

Oh- and did your mom tell you that “Warrior Queen of Tuzlah” is clever? She’s lying to you again, B-Blob.

1. There’s no Santa Claus
2. The boys are not jealous of you
3. The girls are not too intimidated by your manliness to accept your desperate requests for a date
4. Winning four of the last five primaries is not “losing.”
5. Her current boyfriend is not your dad.
6. Your dad isn’t coming back.
7. It’s your fault.

Sorry your mom is such a liar, but really, not all women are your mom.

SCOREBOARD!
fooj

“Did you see today that Obama just gained another delegate from the Iowa caucuses he won . . . you know, caucuses . . . those things they have in almost half the states which your “experienced” candidate neglected to plan for?”

You mean the caucuses where Team Obama locked out the opposition caucus members in Texas? Those caucuses? Wonder why Team Obama hasn’t refuted Hillary when she states that she has won Texas? Do you really think Team Obama and his Obamabrats would let that go considering he DESPERATELY needs to show he can win a “big” state?

Those “things they have in almost half the states” are NEW to this election cycle. How many of those states voted at the polls last time around? It doesn’t take a rocket scientist to figure it all out. It’s called “gaming” the system.
simon, too

How does it feel to have your candidate, having been handed more structural and financial advantages than any non-incumbent in history

In what context, compared to what, how have, had, other factors affected the validity of this statement? Obama reeks of dirty money, this is not an accurate, truthful statement, it is a generalization, and a poor one, at that.

Right here, you show yourself as spinning, and the rest of your argument is seen for the garbled mess of logic it is.

I swear, the neocons went into Iraq on this type of “logic.”

Which should explain every single decision Cheney makes…

Now don’t go get your feelings all hurt, you wanted to play, not letting “facts” get in the way…

Reverend Wrong

And you evidence of this is . . .

Dude take a chill pill. I am stating an opinion and clearly you disagree.

The Clintonistas now resort to “faith based” political analysis.

See above,

Should we look at every opinion you state and demand evidence?

Manamongst Hussein

Evidence…when did that ever stop them. Hillary on Fox good…Obama on Fox Bad..lol

They are in fairytale land…this is sad because Larry is clearly a mole. He wants to string all these Hillbots along till the bitter end and give them the illusion that this was stolen from her and watch while they all bitterly march to McSame. I bet if you…no no no, if Karl Rove told these fools they would vote for John McSame they would probably have called him an idiot. Do you know who pays Larry and Susan and what their motivation is?

Nope…do you really know anything about them? hell no…you know nothing about them…definitely not Taylor Marsh…it would surprise you…sometimes the people you think are your friends aren’t always your friends.

http://hyper-educated-uppity-woman.blogspot.com Uppity

Works for me! I already hated Barack Obama before I got to No Quarter.
fooj

it would surprise you…sometimes the people you think are your friends aren’t always your friends.

BWAHAHAHA! No shit. Obama learned THAT lesson the hard way with Rev. Wright, didn’t he?

Oh well. Just another example of Obama’s EXCELLENT JUDGEMENT.
stodghie

obama trolls=bad!

stodghie

yeah, i know every blog has a troll or two but what did we ever do to get ole bob. i mean really, i bet he is first to go off the blog bread when obama’s contributions decline.
Andy

Obama is a loser and weak, very very weak…Obama is unelectable. Sorry.
mahaska

why do you people always have to call Sen. Clinton stupid hurtful names? It shows your lack of manners and tells more about you than it does her.
mahaska

could be because she is ill. or can she still be a target of your vicious namecalling?

anna shane

I almost feel sorry for Barack. His pastor is not his friend, he’s his rival. That guy thinks he’d make a better president than Barack, he’s the original, original fathead. But I think he got done in when he went on Fox and let himself be corralled. He keeps proving he hasn’t experience, Hillary would have had Wallace for lunch. Instead Barak got feasted on. He needs some practice. This will be the big debate – was it Wallace or Wright? In either case, the lad is sunk.

B-Rob

You have nothing but hope left that this is true. Why? Because there is no evidence that actually supports this conclusion.

Reverend Wrong

You have nothing but hope left that this is true.

To quote you:

And you evidence of this is . . .

We certainly have more than hope left. But telling you how will do what good? Your mind is closed.

Manamongst Hussein

If you consider not answering a question..”eating him for lunch”, please girl you really do not know your candidate…take the rose colored glasses off. If Barack lied about Tuzla the way she did he would have been done…he definitely would have been done to me…so until yall come back with indiscretions of that level..can it!

Besides Wright is not beholden to Obama…as he shouldn’t be…IF you all watched the press club speech today he stated he would go after Obama as president if he was not addressing the needs of the downtrodden…While you guys circle the wagons for a fighter…

http://hyper-educated-uppity-woman.blogspot.com Uppity

She’s not your “Girl” asshole.

http://hyper-educated-uppity-woman.blogspot.com Uppity

…Make that, she’s not your girl, boy.

beebop

Please decide which side of your mouth you prefer you foot to be stuck in and leave it there.

‘kay?
stodghie

don’t you dare use the term girl without her permission. who in the hell do you think you are. you would be offended and rightfully so if someone said boy to you.
Andy

Obama has lied about many many many many many more dangerous and outrageous things. An easy one: he lied again and again and again to poeple’s face while campaigning about having passed “his nuclear bill” (a wussy) which it is still stuck in Congress and haven’t even made it to a vote. He passed NO bill. That is a lie that affects people’s lives especially those suffering cancer b/c
of Exelon. Get it? Pray you are never affected; then you would understand the differences.

http://www.oohnuance.blogspot.com madamab

Bye-bye, Barack.

Shoulda waited till Hill’s second term to run for office. You could have quit the church, distanced yourself from Rezko, Auchi and Ayers, and, oh, I dunno, taken a stand on something? Built up some kind of record of legislative accomplishment?

Now your political career is over. You’re only prolonging the agony, and you’re harming your superdelegates as well.

Drop out now for the good of the party, Senator Obama. We Democrats cannot afford to be associated with this horrorshow.

B-Rob

We Democrats cannot afford to be associated with this horrorshow.

Yeah. Right. Sure.

You want the person who leads in votes, delegates, states, and money to drop out and give the nomination to a person who trails in all catagories, despite having supposed superior “experience”; better name recognition (like a 12 year head start on the national scene); an organizational advantage (her husband’s organization and two U.S. Senate campaigns); and the advantage of no one quesitioning her “electability” because of her race. You expect this result NOT based on anything he has done, but based on what someone no longer associated with his campaign has said. And this makes sense to you people. That is the kind or reality disconnect that induced Hillary to OK the Iraq War: you are buying your own spin instead of thinking rationally.

beebop

You know, Castro ruled Cuba for 49 years.

That didn’t make him the most suitable.

Just ask the Cuban people.
jd

check your facts again. Obi is not leading on votes. More ppl have voted for Hillary, end of discussion.
http://www.oohnuance.blogspot.com madamab

I notice that you do not address the point of my comment, which is that Reverend Wright is a horrorshow and a liability for Democrats.

I wonder why?

You are a pathetic, lying loser. And so is your candidate.

Buh-bye now.
Andy

Bye Bye Barack, B-Rob, KFritz, etc etc etc, Good riddance and good luck.

http://hyper-educated-uppity-woman.blogspot.com Uppity

He’s a Narcissist. He will demand his nomination, his rioters in the wings stoking up the fire. He will then think he won the GE even after he lost it. Then he will determine that we are all dumb and didn’t take advantage of his obvious superiority. You have to have known a Narcissist to recognize one. Trust me, that’s his mind-frame. People will take to the streets and riot, we will all shrug and that will be the end of that. Just like with McGovern. It’s a mirror image if ever there was one.

If Obama is the candidate, four years after McCain is finished doing nothing much, guess who will be back?

may not have to leave party

indeed. and after he’s lost and decided it was because americans are too stupid to see his superiority, he’ll write some more fictional non-fiction books and the remains of his deluded ones will buy them. he’ll make a lot of money. the deluded ones will believe the crap they read in his books and thereby negatively affect the rest of their lives. all very sad.
stodghie

mcgovern was and is a good man. that’s not to say his campaign wasn’t a disaster.

workingclass artist

You could say the same about many of our democratic choices…No ?

stodghie

yup, you sure nailed that one. i can think of some good people who would have been decent and maybe great presidents. gore for one! i think kerry would have been a decent one. i think hillary would be GREAT!

Manamongst Hussein

You are simply silly…did you read that garbage before you clicked the post button? seriously…enough with the “Barack is done” Friedman Units…you all are just loosing credibility as fast as Hill’s losing SD’s…clearly you’ve all ignored delegates and are trying to con the general public into thinking the popular vote is gold. Face it she’s losing, you list the most flemsiest non-scandals known to man…there’s no there there baby. And Madam…read very carefully: You do realize that Hillary has no legislative experience outside that Senate seat where she put a bunch of redundant bills in the hopper without even being smart enough to get sponsers…either she’s lazy as hell or she knew what she was doing.
And a decade in Illinois state legislature means nothing to you idiots…but you’ll comb all over that though for indescretions. I thought I’d give you fools a couple of weeks to come to your senses…but it appears that the same 22 idiots are being duped into thinking Hillary’s entitlement is their entitlement…I mean seriously…look at the town of the crap you’ve written Madam…it’s almost like you truely believe that Hillary was the one that’s netted +85 delegates and Obama was the one bleeding them.

up is down in this world.

I’m just concerned for your mental health…you know when the reality is unavoidable…

Did you not notice that the people oh…6-8 months ago you considered level headed smart people (see Rachel Maddow, Olbermann) You now consider idiots. what are the chances of that many people pledged or defecting simply drinking some koolaide…that’s right there isn’t and you’ve never really seen any actual koolaide have you?

No you haven’t

http://thehorizontalworld.blogspot.com/ Mary Jo Kopechne

Oh, Manwanderinginthedarkness is back to enlighten us with his vast wisdom. Thank you, Mr. Troll. Now please take a flying leap….

workingclass artist

up a fat mans ass…..did I complete the sentence Mary Jo…..

beebop

Did you not notice that the people oh…6-8 months ago you considered level headed smart people (see Rachel Maddow, Olbermann)

Since you don’t know any of the people here — it is rather a leap to assume that people ever thought that Rachel Maddow was level headed. Olbermann has always been a puff piece full of himself and hot air. But that is just me.

I don’t want to call you a liar, but you are no more concerned about my mental health than I am about yours. And actually, you seem to have your head so high up your rectum that I am stunned that you can reach a keyboard with your finger tips much less type!

And, I mean that in the nicest possible way !
fooj

BWAHAHAHA! Come on back and visit when you LOCATE THE ILLINOIS STATE SENATE DOCS OBAMA DESTROYED. The ONLY legislative experience the man had and he DESTROYED it knowing he may run for President.

What is Obama hiding?
rjj

And a decade in Illinois state legislature means nothing to you ….

More CV creep. Four terms — less than 8 years. And it is not a full-time job.

It’s something – kinda like being Governor of Texas.

glennmcgahhee

I watched the press club speech live this morning and I must say that I am in shock. I couldn’t beleive my ears. I’ve been to plenty of black churches and they are not anywhere near as vitrol as he is. Who does he want punished? When does the healing begin? They are setting recialrelations back 100 years. I feel sorry for the innocent people that they say they represent. A diservice to America. No way will this man get anywhere near the White House. Its time for all churches to get out of our political lives period.
http://d2route.wordpress.com/ dcblogger

workingclass artist

thank you workingclass artist

I don’t expect everyone to be greatly interested in my comments or blog, I just think people shouldn’t call me a troll just because I disagree with a particular post, that’s all.

workingclass artist

Well i go by the theory of intellectual stimulation which means I read a lot of stuff whether I agree with it or not….Your writing is thought provoking on the whole and seldom lazy….

glennmcgahhee

I watched the press club speech live this morning and I must say that I am in shock. I couldn’t beleive my ears. I’ve been to plenty of black churches and they are not anywhere near as vitrol as he is. Who does he want punished? When does the healing begin? They are setting racial relations back 100 years. I feel sorry for the innocent people that they say they represent. A diservice to America. No way will this man get anywhere near the White House. Its time for all churches to get out of our political lives period.
sonia

http://www.hillaryclintonforum.net/discussion/
Manamongst Hussein

Who is more stupid:

Conservatives who think liberals will believe the conservatives are acting in the liberals’ best interests?

Or liberals who believe conservatives are acting in the liberals’ best interests?

Typical Hilbots…

Reverend Wrong

Is that like “typical white people?”
beebop

Please, it we wanted riddles, we’d ask you.

Ax: Don’t you have more important places to be? Cleaning up ovomit?
Amanda

Selam Alekum Hussein.
ginaswo

or candidates who believe by sheer magnificence of their own personality they can get conservatives to work across the aisle without a fight? thats delusional!

FranA

Now that Obama has “egg on his face” regarding his guru, uncle and pastor J. Wrong, he should take the suggestion from Howard Dean and quit. We don’t need a chameleon in the White House making important decisions about the future of our country.

http://www.grotte-de-han.be/index.php?docID=132 chatsauvage

Wright’s statements render Obama unelectable.

Jason

Folks, open your ears for a minute and compare a few things. Obama’s PASTOR says a bunch of hateful things about America and white people.

Hillary Clinton says that she will annihilate Iran.

Which one is actually worse?

Which one is going to be played on every TV and radio in the middle east further engendering hatred and encouraging suicide bombers?

Which one is more likely to get you killed?

Think.

beebop

Boy. It’s taken all day but the number of trolls is a great indicator of how serious this shit is.

You go, Reverend Wright. Hang in there big guy. Don’t you end up with granny shoved in the tranny!
Amanda

First of all, Hillary’s policy about Iran, is not described by the word obliriate, but detterance. Something that worked very well during the Cold War.
Second, if you think that fundamentalist in the Middle East are waiting for a simple word to rejoice in suicide bombing, then you know nothing about the region. We are talking about a mindset that condemned a school teacher to prison and lashes because the students (kids) named their bear Muhammed.
Furthermore, you do not know the region that well if you think the sunnis in Egypt or Saudi Arabia are going to go in flames about the shias in Iran. In case you don’t remember, Sadam Hussein had plenty of support from the region during the 80′s war with Iran.

Jason

You are missing the point. Hillary actually said she would obliterate Iran if they attacked Israel.

You are correct that deterrence worked during the cold war back when there was a single enemy that you could easily attack.

You recognize the complexity of the region in the rest of your post. I know the region is anything but unified and apologize for the confusion. I am sure you agree that a significant portion will look at her comments as one more reason the west needs to be destroyed.

You should also consider whether a cold war response is appropriate for a situation that is in no way similar to the cold war. That form of thinking is a relic from the past.

Again, which is more dangerous, the ravings of an angry pastor or the Presidential candidate suggesting tactics that are inappropriate and ineffective against an enemy that wants to kill as many of us as possible?

beebop

you know what I hear when you post? blah blah blah blah Hillary bad.

I don’t know who sends you this shit to post some where, but ITS THE ECONOMY, STUPID.

Jason

Well, if thats what you hear, try reading closer. All you are exhibiting is blind adherence and an unwillingness to even listen.

I would be happy to discuss the economy but this article was about Rev. Wright’s rhetoric and I thought it made the most sense to stay on topic.

Regardless, I accept your concession on this point.

fooj

Hillary was asked a HYPOTHETICAL question as to how she would respond to a NUCLEAR attack by Iran on Israel.

Nice try, Jason.

BTW- the “ravings” of the “angry” pastor was and is Obama’s spiritual adviser. That adviser just made it crystal clear who he perceives to be the enemy.

Louis Farrakhan is not my enemy. He did not put me in chains, he did not put me in slavery, and he didn’t make me this color.”

The “enemy” is the white man. There’s no other way to interpret the quote.

I don’t want a president whose “crazy uncle” and spiritual adviser harbors that much hatred in his heart for any ethnicity.

And don’t give me the “Obama wasn’t clear on all of his positions” bullshit. He purchased Wright’s sermons on tape as a college student. He knows EXACTLY where this man stands.

fooj

Didn’t Obama say he would bomb Pakistan?

ginaswo

she said obliterate actually and it is our current policy, obliterate if they launch nuclear strike against Israel, Im fine with that, it’s called deterrence and it works

Jason

Her answer was thoughtless and may as well have come from Dick Cheney. I don’t need four more years of Bush/Cheney fake tough guy foreign policy.

A more thoughtful answer would have been something like “that isn’t a very realistic scenario. In the event Iran were to launch a nuclear strike on Iran, the Israel’s would retaliate in kind before we even had an opportunity to react. But that isn’t going to happen because we are going to work towards normalizing relations between the two countries and I am going to reach out to Iran …”

the cold war is over – lets stop with the cold war rhetoric.

fooj

WTF does one have to do with the other?

Projection is all you people have left, isn’t it?

Jason

Go back and read the original point a few posts up. The point was people shouldn’t make a big deal about some things his pastor said that are stupid but actually aren’t dangerous when compared to things HRC said that actually are dangerous and stupid.

beebop

Didn’t Obama say he would bomb Pakistan?

Why didn’t you respond to that question, Jason?

Jason

Because this is what he actually said:

“If we have actionable intelligence about high-value terrorist targets and President Musharraf won’t act, we will.”

Because he said he’d be willing to attack Al Qaeda targets in Pakistan, which is a far cry from him saying he would nuke Iran.

You do see there is a fundamental difference between going after specific terrorist targets and killing civilians, right?

Thats the thing with nuclear weapons, they don’t really discriminate very well, hence the term “weapon of mass destruction”.

With nuclear threats you are holding innocent civilians hostage.

Do you understand the difference between a civilian and a “high value terrorist target?”

S. Markom

Chris Matthews just equated Bill Clinton to Jeremiah Wright, by calling them albatrosses to their respective candidates. Cannot believe the said that.

beebop

he’s giving himself a thrill up his leg.
workingclass artist

Matthews is so high on OBAMACRACK that his man crush has gone beyond mere embarrassment….He is truly DEMENTED….

beebop

He’ll need a big pulsating loofah just to wipe the beads of sweat off his manly pate.

workingclass artist

ROFL…Bee you are sumpn’ else….

ginaswo

tweety is desperate
everywhere Big Dawg campaigned for Hilly she took 70%
despite the best efforts of Axelrove and crew American Dems in the base LURV Big Dawg, Lord knows I do!
Five Thirty

Comment by S. Markom | 2008-04-28 16:02:57
Chris Matthews just equated Bill Clinton to Jeremiah Wright, by calling them albatrosses to their respective candidates. Cannot believe the said that.

Matthews is high. The American public remembers the budget surplus that Bill Clinton left behind.

Hope

Matthew is a bloated, bombastic hunk of puke.
stodghie

bill is the orignal cool guy that gets all the girls and prom king while matthews i suspect was a dork. he still remembers.

fooj

I’ve heard it on various “news” channels today. I guess that’s the “talking point” of the week.

Assholes.

SJ

Is it not funny that whenever Obama is in trouble you hear about some super delegate coming out and endorsing him.

This happens every time just check Drudge headlines Obama takes lead over Clinton in the senate…geez

B-Rob

Is it not funny that whenever Obama is in trouble you hear about some super delegate coming out and endorsing him.

Interesting . . . Obama gets in trouble but undecided supers STILL PREFER HIM TO HILLARY! Doesn’t this tell you anything?

http://hyper-educated-uppity-woman.blogspot.com Uppity

Yes it tells me that money makes the blind see.
ginaswo

yes it tells me Obama still has some SDs he hasnt announced on that list behind the glass that says BREAK IN CASE OF EMERGENCY
and Bingamon is NM a la Richardson, and another one who supported the pork laden Cheney Energy bill Obama voted for so no surprises there
Hoosiergal

Gov of North Carolina to endorse Hillary. Watch for the press release.
street_parade

Yes, it tells me that have a stash of SD’s that they keep on ice just for days like today. Won’t make any dif, but hey its something.

Me thinks, Reverend Wright is very, VERY angry at little Barack…and he seems to be the kind of person you do not want to have angry at you.

hillgotgame

http://news.yahoo.com/s/bloomberg/20080428/pl_bloomberg/aw_qty8aivto

Obama’s `Gigantic’ Database May Make Him Party’s Power Broker

Really scary and creepy.
hillgotgame

Obama’s `Gigantic’ Database May Make Him Party’s Power Broker
http://news.yahoo.com/s/bloomberg/20080428/pl_bloomberg/aw_qty8aivto

Really scary and creeeeeepy. There are a lot of super stupid people out there!
DCDemocrat

Well, at the very least, if Obama manages to steal the nomination, he won’t be elected, and that will be that.

B-Rob

How can Obama “steal” the nomination when he is ahead fair and square?

PMS

He didn’t win the Texas Caucuses “fair and square”. His supporters did indeed steal that victory.

workingclass artist

Correct over 2000 complaints of voter fraud and intimidation….It was a 2 step sham dance…..

Jason

yeah, which is why the nullified it. Oh wait, no they didn’t. You can’t just accept that you lost that one, can you? Perhaps if Hillary had the appropriate leadership skills she would have better understood how the system works and act accordingly.

beebop

Chicago style politics.
B-Rob

Jason STOP trying to confuse them with facts! It will make there little heads explode!
workingclass artist

Read a few of the local papers Jason….Look at the county map.
Clinton swamped BABY-O in the popular vote….
The Texas Democratic party quit counting the caucus votes after 40 % of the returns…..
The whole thing was a sham. The jury rigging happened before this primary…..BABY-O just benefitted from crooked practices tht evidently he is accostumed to…..
ces

What state are you from Jason?

Did you actually see any Texas ‘caucuses’? I did and I can tell you that Hillary supporters were disenfranchised.

No one in my precinct had their ID checked and somehow all these Obama names were on the list.

Then on the day of the county convention, the HRC delegates were called by someone from the Obama campaign (who got the phone numbers from our precinct/county chair who was a card-carrying member of Obama campaign) and were told the convention was cancelled.

So don’t tell me Texas went for Obama. She won the popular vote, which will be the only thing that counts in November.
fooj

Then why doesn’t he brag on winning Texas? Wouldn’t that give credence to winning a “big state”?

Obama’s problem…when you LOCK the oppositions caucus members out of the building it’s not only DISHONEST and UNDEMOCRATIC- it’s ILLEGAL.

Hillary has PUBLICLY stated that she won Texas with absolutely NO REFUTATION from Obama and his minions. Are you saying that the aggressive, whiny Obamabrats would stay silent over something like this? BWAHAHAHA!

B-Rob

Over 2000, huh? Care to provide me a link to some of these complaints?

By the way — if the Texas caucuses were so riddled with intimidation, why no Voting Rights Act challenge? Why no challenge by Hillary?

YOU FOLKS ARE GOING TO LET OBAMA GET AWAY WITH “STEALING” A STATE? The same people bitching about “disenfranchisement” in non-delegate states Florida and Michigan are going to SIT BY AND LET IT HAPPEN in Texas?

Dudes, the lack of coherent action on this tends to prove you have, again, made up these allegations.

workingclass artist

Go to the local papers….Dallas Observer is good. Austn American Statesman….Dallas Morning news ( they have the story of the precinct captain that was chased to the police station ) Houston Chronical…..Texas Monthly Magazine…..To name a few. Check it out…..

stodghie

houston here! the chronicle gives me a present surprise from time to time.

beebop

Blob. No one cares about you and your nonsense.

YOur candidate is fucking toast. The crowd behind him on the stage as pictured on ABC? Damn little applause. No one fainted!
ces

Hey blob,

Get your facts. HRC did try to challenge it, but the state party declined to hear it, thus the county conventions were held on their scheduled day, instead of getting the facts straight and checking it all out.

And the 2000 comes from the HRC campaign itself. I know, I filed one myself.

The only thing made up around here is your perception of worth to us.

B-Rob

Still waiting on links to all those complaints!

workingclass artist

I listed the id’s…do your own work….Lazy…..SHEESH!

beebop

He’s as lazy as his candidate.

Don’t do anything for him. Does “I agree with Hillary” sound familiar? He doesn’t even look at anything other than the page they send him for cutting and pasting.

He’s a one trick unity pony.

B-Rob

Uh, huh. OK. Sure.

One question: if the thing was “stolen”, why didn’t Hillary challenge anything? In addition, how do you know there was any supposed “theft”? Because, again, with the Voting Rights Act, anyone could have reported supposed voter intimidation if it actually occurred. But like the dog that does not bark, the lack of formal protest by Hillary says it all!

workingclass artist

Clinton challnged the caucuses in Texas….Asked the Texas Democratic Party to delay the convention until the 2000 complaints of voting fraud and intimidation were investigated….They told her basically to fuck off and that 40% of a caucus is the new math majority in texas. Texas is politically a complete disaster thanks to that little GOP toad Former republican whip who is too scared to reside in his former Houston District and lives out of state. I refuse to mention the farts name. It will take years to clean up this recent jerry mander. We also have him to thank for CORP. seizing peoples property….
http://Supergram.blogspot.com Melissa

READ the replies! The results were/are being contested. If you want actual vidoe evidence, check out you-tube – there are PLENTY of vidoes showing voter intimidation by the Obama camp, caucus rules ignored and or subverted, again by the Obama folks.
Get a life!

Jason

Yet none of you seem to be able to provide links to anything. Interesting.

beebop

Florida? Michigan? Earth to Obamaland ….

Jason

Yeah, too bad she agreed to pull their delegates back in the fall. Great leadership qualities.

beebop

Too bad Barack blocked the Democratic party’s attempts to revote both states.

Kinda funny about the Florida revote … and not the funny haha kind either:

Consider the shameless hypocrisy of the Obama campaign. Barack Obama is out there having his campaign argue that mail in voting has some type of impact that requires a Voting Rights Act review that could be troubling. That it will take more than a rubber stamp. Let’s be clear, if the implication is this is just filling out a form, then no one would be bringing this up. Even the time frame is not a particular problem. No, Barack Obama is intimating that HE will raise a Voting Rights Act issue about mail in voting.

The SAME Barack Obama who is co-sponsor of the Senate version of this bill, “The Universal Right To Vote By Mail Act”, which declares that NOT ALLOWING mail in voting in every state (28 do through absentee balloting) disenfranchises voters, now opposes a mail in revote. I have heard of chutzpah, but this one takes the cake.

Don’t be as intellectually lazy as your candidate is when you come here with your shitforbrains posts, ‘kay?

Jason

I love how you people pull little snippets together to build positions no matter how impractical and untenable they are. Officials in both Florida and Michigan ruled out re-votes by mail.

Also, there is of course, a world of difference between supporting the right to vote by mail and having an entire election done over by mail.

That might be a little too nuanced for you.

And nice name calling. I love people who are internet tough.

ces

They didn’t rule out revotes by mail, they ruled out paying for revotes by mail.

HRC offered the money like that [snap!].

But Obama and his state legislative friends (aka, “it’s nice to be in the lead”) put the kabosh on any plans to anything.

And in the case of FL, it was the repug majority that tried to block a revote on the Dem primary….and Obama’s pals in that state’s legislature conveniently backed down. I hear it was that Waffle House was having a 2-for-none sale.

Jason

She didn’t offer to pay for a new election in two states. Stop making stuff up.

ces

Yes she did. She had supporters ready to go with $30 million to pay for the two revotes.

ces

here’s just the first goggle hit of “clinton pay revote”

http://www.usatoday.com/news/politics/election2008/2008-03-19-michigan_N.htm

So Jason, STFU. YOU’RE making s. up.
Jason

It was allegedly pledges by her donors to pay up to $12 million but no money sitting anywhere though or deposited into escrow.

But specifically, SHE did not offer to pay it, some of her backers did.

You people lie as much as your candidate does.
ces

Dude, grow up.

She said in interviews, that she had “access” (my word) to money to pay for the revote.

And here you’re worried about is she said she had money or if donors had it…..

The point is THERE WAS/IS MONEY TO PAY for a revote, but Sen. Obama and his supporters (inc apparently Dean and Pelosi, and esp. Brazille) have done everything they can to BLOCK a revote.

Stop trolling, please.

Andy

Great leadership qualities.

Indeed HRC has great leadership qualities. Obama on the other hand has none. He’s weak as straw; weak, weak weak…ugh

Jason

Really? None? That’s interesting because the two of them, collectively, have led nothing other than one presidential campaign.

Hillary started with a huge lead, was the presumptive nominee and is now losing.

Do you think the campaign is somehow running itself?

That is great leadership and the only concrete example we have of how the two stack up.

ginaswo

by disenfranchising MILLIONS of Democrats whose popular votes were CERTIFIED in FL

Jason

get your facts straight. They were not disenfranchised by Obama. Hillary agreed to “disenfranchise” those voters as well. Or rather the DNC did and they both went along with it.

ces

Get your facts straighter!

The DNC “rule” allow for a revote, but Obama’s supporters have blocked any movement to follow the rule.

If FL/MI are to be “punished” then there are other states that should have their votes revoked, too.

Oh but, silly me, I thought were in a representative republic where the PEOPLE decide, not some (pant)suits in DC/SF.

Jason

DNC rules can always be changed, there’s an amendment process. I suppose the rules could be changed just to appoint HRC as the nominee. You’d probably chastise Obama for that too.

We do live in a representative republic. Part of that is following the rules, its only in a Banana republic where you would change the rules late in the game to give your candidate the win.

ces

Troll.

The rules don’t need changed. The rules already allow for seating and counting FL and MI. The rules have been inconsistently applied to MI/FL. Other states, like Obama’s Iowa win, also moved their primary up, and they get counted.

So this is not about appointing anyone. This is not about giving anyone the win. This is about giving the people, all the people, their say.

But Obama knows that when FL (at least) is counted, he’s losing.

You cling to the DNC rules like they trump the constitution or something. We the 48 States of Obama.

street_parade

The Republicans changed the date of the Florida primary, not the Dems. Get YOUR facts straight.

BO took his name off of the Michigan ballot, so why is that Clinton’s fault? By your logic, since she will most likely lose NC, she should take her name off the ballot and then say the vote doesn’t count – because she wasn’t on the ballot.

BO blocked the re-vote in MI. There’s a lovely video clip of one of BO’s Michigan minions saying “its good to be in the lead” with a cheshire cat grin, to prove it.

I swear this guy makes me think I’m back in 4th grade.

Jason

The repubs changed the date and your candidate agreed to strip them of their delegates. Now she changed her mind.

She’s the one who broke the pledge not to run in Michigan. Go read the words of it, it includes not having your name on the ballot.

Saying “its good to be in the lead” proves … that his staffer thinks its good to be in the lead.

Which it is, because it makes it easier to win. Something I’d think you would have learned in 4th grade.

ces

Now it’s just a pledge? What happened to your rules. You can’t have it both ways.

There was no RULE to not run in Michigan. Obama thought it was good strategy to do so, and yet, still run huge amounts of money in the state to get people to vote uncommitted.

It was HIS choice.

Having two MI legislators say on national TV that “it’s good to be in the lead” about questions about a revote is not just them being glad they thought O was in the lead. It was them saying, “f. off, we don’t want to count the votes because we want to keep Obama in the lead, even though if we counted our constituents votes (again or at all) Obama would lose the state, handily.”

The US of A had 50 states, Jason. Something I thought you’d learn in the fourth grade.

Jason

There was a pledge not to be on the ballot by the candidates in Michigan.

The rules say Florida and MI, because of their actions, get no delegates.

Do you really not understand the distinctions?

Any position you have about who would win in a revote and whether or not it would be “handily” is speculation and irrelevant.

In the span of two posts its now grown from “one Obama minion saying…” to “two MI legislators say on national TV…”

Which is it? Again, you people just keep making up facts, while its amusing it makes me wonder.

And yes, there are 50 states. The 48 that were capable of following the rules get to have delegates, just like non-states Guam, Puerto Rico, American Samoa and the Virgin Islands.

The ones that can’t get their shit together don’t, deal with it.

ces

I wasn’t the one who said one minion. Read much?

All the other 48 states have NOT “followed the rules”, as others moved up and gee, get to be counted. Including, IIRC, Iowa which was Obama’s ‘big boost’. And HRC wasn’t the only one who left their name on. But O did. Boo hoo. Once again, MI voters get their big birds flipped to them. “We’re taking our names off because we don’t want to upset the leadership in the other states.” People voted, Jason. Does that matter to you? Apparently not….anything in the ‘defense’ of your chosen one.

The rules in fact say, they can have votes counted. They go to the credentials committee to get their delegates seated. Or they could have let private donors fund the revote, which is also in the rules.

A pledge is not a rule. Get the distinction? Obama figured out too late that he screwed up with Michigan, so he spent money in the state on fliers and an email/phone blast. to no avail. So much for that pledge to not campaign in MI. Oops, he broke the rules too. boo hoo.

The rules also say, no money to be spent in FL, but oops, what about those ads in FL markets? No problemo for the o-trons.

Yeah, “deal with it”. Good answer. But you don’t have to tell me, tell the millions in FL/MI whose votes you’re flushing down the shitter to ‘save’ your anointed one for the sacrificial slaughter in November. Bravo.

street_parade

Um, pretend that Florida and Michigan have seceded? Rules are rules!

Yep, that’ll work in November.

http://hyper-educated-uppity-woman.blogspot.com Uppity

Yup he will bring us four years of McCain.

PMS

Bad news? Obama sends the trolls.

http://jcwinnie.biz/wordpress/imageSnag/FlyMyPreetiesFly.jpg

http://hyper-educated-uppity-woman.blogspot.com Uppity

Did you notice they all leave at the same time and show up within a half hour of each other? Cripes, they can’t even figure out what to post without instructions.

workingclass artist

Yeah….Like the proverbial plague of locusts….
B-Rob

The black helicopter schedules throughout the US mean that the Obama minnions (and there are millions of us) are wel coordinated.

beebop

You didn’t darken that picture, did you? Don’t want to upset anyone … green or not!
http://Supergram.blogspot.com Melissa

ROFLMAO! That was the exact picture in my mind right after he got creamed in the debate! All of a sudden ABC was inundated with hate mail and I got this pic in my head from the Wizard of OZ-”To the Emerald City, fast as lightning- fly, my pretties, fly.!’
OMG ROFL

Reverend Wrong

Summary of response to Larry’s post as of the time I wrote this:

Larry, you struck a raw nerve with the Obama supporters and have created doubt in their minds, They of course will deny this and/or try and misdirect what I just said.

I’m getting a life and will be back later. Thanks again Larry for your most excellent post.
emilyR

My favorite line has got to be, “and he didn’t make me this color.” This would imply that whoever made Wright “this color” has somehow sinned against him. I’m having to guess that he just slammed the piss out of his own ancestors. Of course I’m sure he didn’t mean to say that.. much like obama never seems to mean to say anything…but…a lot of people take great pride in their ancestry. Of course to show respect to one’s ancestors is to show respect…and Wright and Obama are incapable of showing respect to anyone or anything.

Amanda

Or it could be the opposite. Because Wright (color wise) is not black enough (according to him). So, there has to be some white ancestors in his family tree.
It hurts even more that we are discussion at this level the color of somebody’s skin. But the holy man has brought the nation to this level of discussion.

I swear, this man is crazy.

This goes beyond this election. Any racial healing that was done in the past decades is in peril now. We have gone from white guilt, to white/black anger because of Wright.

stodghie

yup, i noticed and thought the same thing. it makes one wonder if some relative in the rev’s past may have wronged him in his view.

beebop

Or God … maybe he’s just not happy with the Creators creation?
ginaswo

Cone liberation theology talks about hating God a LOT

sjc-tx

What is profoundly sad is that everyone is crying out over what this idiot has said and about race relations… But NOONE has said boo about how defammitory and obscene it is
when all the MSM, pundits, blogtwats, and obama campaign spew their narrowminded and vile ignorance against Hillary as a WOMAN!!! THAT is a pathology!

Kevin

“when all the MSM, pundits, blogtwats, and obama campaign spew their narrowminded and vile ignorance against Hillary as a WOMAN!!!”

Given that we all know the first 3 (MSM, pundits and blogtwats) really mean nothing – just what “vile ignorance” has the Obama campaign spewed against Hillary as a woman? Seriously… inane comments from supporters aside, what has the campaign done? I’ve asked the same question of Obama’s camp when I’ve read them rant about the Clinton’s playing the race card.

Fred C. Dobbs

Whenever we hear this crap about chains, it’s usually followed quickly by talk of Reparations and then, “40 acres and a mule.”

(FYI, neither the Congress nor Abe Lincoln promised anyone forty acres and a mule. That little filip came from William Tecumseh Sherman. see: War Department Circular 13 and Circular 15)

Might I suggest that vast tracts of Liberia and Sierra Leone are either unoccupied or owned by large US and UK interests (read, “Firestone”) and that granting each and every dim-witted sonofabitch his wish of 16.187 hectares of, “The Mother Country,” might make a much more peaceful American Street?

All we need, it seems, are more mules.

I’d personally sweeten up the pot for Rev. Wright with two of my very own Krugerrands.

Samantha

Fred,

You are my hero! NOBODY has the brains and guts to say it better.

You should be President of this great country.

http://www.bythefault.com Charles Lemos

Well I hope that this is finally the end of the Obama campaign but let’s not worry about his campaign but ours. We have a lot of work to secure a 10 point plus win in Indiana and attempt a draw in North Carolina. That’s what we need to work on by focusing on solutions, not promises. Hillary has inspired us to be tenacious, let’s keep it up!

Andy

Agreed !! Let’s keep our eyes on the ball: May 6 NC &IN

PamFlorida

People, let’s return to more rational discussions. Comments today read like a competition between anti-Clinton & anti-OBama factions.

I don’t care whether Obama wears a flag pin.
I don’t care what color he is.
I don’t care what his religion is.
I don’t care if 90% of AA vote for him.
I don’t care if he wears designer suits.
And, I don’t care what he eats or drinks.

I do care that he ignores the Party base & is wishy-washy on important core Dem issues.
I do care that he admires & is overly deferential towards Republicans.
I do care that he never refers to himself as a Democrat.
I do care that he never calls for Party unity.
I do care that he never commits to supporting HC if she is the nominee, as she has done for him.
I do care that he allows his surrogates to foment divisiveness & racism.
I do care that he exposes his children to extremist, inflammatory, & unloving rhetoric in a religious setting.
I do care that he adopts the flavor of the moment, depending on the audience.
I do care that he does not exhibit any real passion for any issue.
I do care that there is no warmth or spark of determination in his eyes.
And, most of all, I do care that he seems unwilling to really put himself out there, warts and all, and fight to earn the nomination.
If he is not willing to fight for our trust and votes, why should we believe that he will fight for us?

ginaswo

Agree:
I do care that he referred to prochoice supporters ‘not understanding the wrenching moral decision faced by prolife supporters’
I do care that he voted for tort reform
I do care that he voted AGAINST a cap on credit card rates and told us in a debate it was b/c he thought the cap was ‘too high’ (and Edwards looked at him in total disbelief)
I do care that he blocked the Alito filibuster
I do care that he is sympathetic to Roberts appointment and bragged about that in the Chris Wallace interview Sunday
I do care that Obama makes no attempt to speak to the Democratic base voters, blue collar, Seniors, women, and minorities other than AA, a group for whom I have seen no specific policy plans by Obama, always excepting those he cribbed off Hillary)
I do care that he plans to raise the SS payroll taxes on my family by 30%
I do care that his primary financial advisers are Freidmanite U of C SS privatizers
I do care that his chief healthcare adviser helped kill Universal health care in 93
I do care that he uses GOP anti universal health care language to block this reform ie garnishment Harry/Louise
I do care that his primary foreign affairs advisers like Brezinski and McPeak are vehemently pro Palestinian and anti Israel IMO
I do care that he praises Bush I foreign policy seemingly forgetting CHENEY was Bush I Sec of Defense and executed that Iraq action

I care a lot!
WE NEED HILLARY!

as Faith No More would say

WE CARE A LOT!

http://youtube.com/watch?v=VDwiTxXzFsA
B-Rob

I do care that he ignores the Party base & is wishy-washy on important core Dem issues.

Which “party base” has he ignored? Indeed, what do you think is the “party base”? And if he is ignoring the “party base”, then why the hell is he in the lead in votes, delegates, states won and money raised? Because you would think that ignoring the “party base” would doom him. but instead it is Hillary who is doomed.

I wonder: maybe you folks miscalculated no only who the base is, but what they want, as well. Because, again, if Obama was who you say he is, he would not be in the lead, would he? But he is, so one of two things is possible:

1) Obama is not who you say he is, or

2) Obama is who you say her is, but the voters find Hillary so detestable, that they would rather have him!

Either way, one thing is definately true: Hill-fans are out of touch with what the majority of Dems want! Which is why you are in second place and not first!

beebop

And why, if he is the candidate in November, the Democratic party will be in second place and not in first.

What you don’t get — or you do and it isn’t on the pages you have for cut and pasting purposes is that he doesn’t have the votes to win the General Election. But, hey, if all you want is the Democratic nomination … I have just one thing to say to you and to him:

Find another country and/or party to FUCK UP! GWB has already done enough to the country and for a party that should have been able to lean down and pick this one up, Barack, Coward, Odonna and the gang have screwed the pooch. And the pooch can’t even vote!
PamFlorida

I didn’t say who Obama is. Just told you what I care about. In fact, If you read the entire post-I specifically listed things that don’t matter to me as regards to Obama.

As for the Party base, exactly who do you think is the party base? Republicans for a day, first time voters, yourself? The Democratic base is more than that. We are young, old, men, women, AA, Latino, rich, poor, middle class, high school grads, college grads, and more. In fact, the Democratic Party is extremely diverse. Maybe that’s why we fight amongst ourselves so often.

What is it that you want from our next president? I want change from the disastrous Bush administration and the stranglehold of it’s corporate greed. I want to be able to afford the necessities, which gets harder every month,even though I don’t have ANY debt other than my mortgage.

Your support for Obama must be based on more than anti-Clinton rhetoric or the ideals implied by the words change and hope. We all want change from something bad or undesirable. But we need to have an idea of what kind of change and how it can be accomplished. Change can’t happen unless we work together. That is Unity.
street_parade

This race is a dead-heat. In popular vote she has a slight lead, in delegates he has a slight lead.
You do understand that, don’t you? If he was ‘winning’ you wouldn’t be hanging around here. You’d be having Kool-Aid cocktails with the other kids.

Number of states won is a meaningless statistic – you should suggest to the mothership that they stop making you repeat it.

Teh math-AK+HI+ID+UT+KS+WI+IA+NE+MN+MS+AL+etc < CA

In fact, the smallest TWENTY states in the union COMBINED have less population than California. So unless your counting land-mass (like the Bushbots used to like to do) you should drop that one. Makes you look, well, like a Bushbot.

Dawnelle

All great reasons.

I, like you, have more than a few reasons to NOT EVER vote for BHO.

Wright is one.
Insulting his Grandma is one.
His lying more than once is MORE than one.
His wife is a BIGGY

etc.

BigDaddy

You are makin much about nothin, Whites is the racist and hatemungers.Rev. Wright was taken out of context. It don’t matter no how if Barrack attended 100 years he said he don’t believe in that talk. I wish he would just tell you all where to really go. He will be President and you will see CHANGE~ Just Deal with it and chill.

Hope

BigDaddy Bubba Bunny,
Please! Stop making me laugh!
beebop

Yeah, well, good luck with that, loser.

workingclass artist

Fat loser petulant pillow biter…..

rjj

A Faith-Hope-Change® franchisee.

Clap if you belieeeeeeeeve!!!!!!
rjj

Anybody remember Jim and Tammy Baker?

PamFlorida

BTW-has anyone noticed the glaring absence of Ted Kennedy & family, Jay Rockefeller, Chris Dodd, Bill Richardson, Oprah, & the others who jumped on the anti-Clinton bandwagon? Where is Rev. Jesse Jackson, the other honorable men & women who walked with MLK, and those who followed his dream?
In spite of the much anticipated avalanche of SD for BO, it has been a trickle. What are they waiting for? Perhaps a better look at the candidates?

S. Markom

The only one you see is Richardson who must have been sufficiently bribed by Obama to get his endorsement.

Oprah? She has not said a peep about Obama since the Jeremiah Wright scandal. She had enough sense to get out of that church as soon as she heard what he had to say.

Obama, on the other hand, must believe in what Wright says since he decided to have his children be influenced by his rantings.

Steve

The only one you see is Richardson who must have been sufficiently bribed by Obama to get his endorsement.

Blackmail is always a possibility.

S. Markom

The only one you see is Richardson who must have been sufficiently bribed by Obama to get his endorsement.

Oprah? She has not said a peep about Obama since the Jeremiah Wright scandal. She had enough sense to get out of that church as soon as she heard what he had to say.

Obama, on the other hand, must believe in what Wright says since he decided to have his children be influenced by his rantings.

Hope

Oh dear this is very bad news for poor Obama. I wonder just how much money Rev Wrong is being paid to act out as he is these days. This is truly scandalous! LOL
Does he have a vendetta against Obama or what? Are we suppose to feel some kind of sympathy now for little Barry? What’s the game plan here? Good cop bad cop?

Rev Wrong is truly a piece of very bad artwork. He is a very disloyal, selfish and mean-spirited jerk with a death wish I guess.
campskunk

looks like the obamabots are speechless

beebop

you WISH! They are out with more and more and more of the SSDD …

Douglas

Will Barack’s Jewish supporters swallow Wright’s praise for Louis Farrakhan?

Will Hillary’s Jewish supporters swallow Ed Rendell’s praise for Louis Farrakhan?

beebop

You don’t really want to criticize Ed Rendell, do you?

Douglas

No not at all. But i’m trying to get my head around the endgame here.

The logic here is Obama is apparently unelectable (in this case to the Jewish community specifically) because of his dubious third party associations.

Ed Rendell has praised, effusively, Louis Farakhan, his church and the community that attends. There is video footage of him speaking at the church.

Considering Hillary Clinton now has the terrible taint of a third party connection to the very same people you’re decrying, your logic extends that she now is equally as unelectable to the Jewish community. Round and round we go.

So what is the endgame?

beebop

Did I miss somewhere that Ed has been a racist for 20 years and inciting a community to hate America? Did I miss that Hillary and Ed have a congregation that believes that the end of WWII was a terrorist act? Gee. Imagine how under informed the American electorate is …. hmmmm two more weeks of Reverend Wright unplugged should help out with that, ya think?

workingclass artist

Ehemmm…..Douglas…Cepe indicum. Plenus stercoris es…..No ? Now waddle back to GAZA….
annakarenina

Good move on the part of the Obama campaign. Wright’s crazy act in his last three speeches let’s Obama distance himself once and for all from the Rev. and finally put an end to “pastorgate”. I think it was all staged and damned brilliant!

beebop

Wow … by removing periods you should be able to post that pap just about every place a trollgirl wants to be …. do you breathe at any point in that? Or is it strictly a cut and paste? Does it highlight that it is grammatically incorrect? Or have you turned that off? Or in Gaza do you not get that feature?

barbh

I have had this thought in my head that Rev. Wright might be wanting to “make a name” for himself, much like Jesse Jackson or Al Sharpton, he is retired now and probably is bored and looking for a job as TV spokesperson representing the “black church” point of view or something….

Watching him for a while he sounds semi okay to me and then he goes off on some tangent. What he is doing now is a disaster for the dem party if BO is the nominee…
street_parade

You know what I think is a really good Republican ad to run against BO (if the Dems are dumb enough to nominate this moron)?

You don’t have to bring up GD America, chickens roosting, typical white people, bitter bigots, racist Grannies…no. Just say vote for McCain unless you want to have a “conversation” about race in America for the next four years. All day, every day for FOUR F**KING YEARS!!

Hell, I’m pretty damn liberal — but I might just vote for him if he did.

rjj

!!!!!!!!!

stodghie

i am watching o’reilly tonight and dang i am agreeing.
Poker

Larry Johnson? Hell, he plays for the Chiefs and has had too many blows to the face and head. I joke at this joke of a post.

The White House will fall apart and collapse before my guy Obama calls it quits.
http://nechi2@yahoo.com NECHI

Come on people. Who are the candidates? Can’t you see what’s happening? Can’t you all see what the media is doing? The media is being divisive And tearing the country apart, Change you channels when you see negative comments/adds coming up.

Really see through the trash that the media is throwing at US. Don’t make Comments on stupidity. We should all get back to the issues that is so pressing on the nation. We are at war. People are hungry, Food is scarce, The checks coming in cannot pay the bills going out. Gas price is “Overwhelming” for us regular people. I am back from Iraq but my friends and comrades are not, and they are realy catching hell. The rich commentators in the media are making a large salary on Obama’s and Wrights coat tails.
Yes, I believe in heart that Obama is best suited for president, because the republicans are waiting to tear Clinton apart. You have not seen the entire kitchen yet. But who you vote far is more important
Than the garbage we are getting from the so called intelligent media.

LET US ALL MAKE A DIFFERENCE FOR OURSELVES
Let’s get a grip “BOYCUT” the channels that cannot deliver what is important to us.
CHANGE THE CHANNELS/ TUNE THEM OUT/AND SUPPORT YOUR CANDIDATE AND WHERE THE HELL ARE THE SO CALLED BROTHERS AND SISTERS, BLACKS WHITES, ASIANS, INDIANS, HISPANICS THAT WANT A DIFFERENCE IN THEIR LIVES.
don’t allow this inour homes, especialy if you have high blood pressure. DON’T ALLOW THIS MESS TO HAPPEN

WHAT HAS THE CLINTON EVER REALY DONE FOR YOU OR FOR NY “0” ZERO ” WHY ARE THEY IN YOUR HOMES WITH THIS CRAP? GET THEM ALL OUT.

street_parade

You start off telling everyone to turn off their TV (good) and get out and do something (good)….and then you end up shilling for Obama (meh).

http://360.yahoo.com/ommotherlifeforce fred heidrick

all i can say is , keep on talking, keep on talking ,keep on talking, the more he talks the lower obama gos.

now we are predidist against all black churches?i dont remember when hillary and bill went to those black churches that they reported sermons of hate and distrust?

he is definitly carimatic, like the dark master on star wars training darth vader,obama, to atack the aliance.
http://garymcgo.blogspot.com/ Gary McGowan

Re Churches, especially those with African-decent congregations:

The boys ‘ud always lead us,
An’ the girls ‘ud all chime in
Till the sweetness o’ the singin’
Robbed the list’nin’ soul o’ sin;
An’ I used to tell the parson
‘T was as good to sing as pray,
When the people sung the ol’ tunes
In the ol’-fashioned way.

How I long ag’in to hear ‘em
Pourin’ forth from soul to soul,
With the treble high an’ meller,
An’ the bass’s mighty roll;
But the times is very diff’rent,
An’ the music heerd to-day
Ain’t the singin’ o’ the ol’ tunes
In the ol’-fashioned way.

Little screechin’ by a woman,
Little squawkin’ by a man,
Then the organ’s twiddle-twaddle,
Jest the empty space to span,
— An’ ef you should even think it,
‘T is n’t proper fur to say
That you want to hear the ol’ tunes

—-

Find myself wondering about the singing in Rev. Wright’s church.
Anna

Much of what Reverend Wright has to say is the truth. The majority of white Americans do not want to look at the truth and will avoid it at all cost. Although many of Wright’s mannerisms reminds me of someone…Bush. There is an arrogance and cockiness to Wright that is a bit over the top.

Wish Chris Matthews and Olberman would finish Rev Wright’s sentence. They keep repeating that he said “God Damn America” Wright said

“God Damn America for killing innnocent people”
Personal

It appear all are worried about the entire crisis
about the economy in our country. Hopefully, we all
must pray and hope this entire matter will be corrected. In this, we as a people must stay with the
facts at hand rather than focus the adverse feelings
and negative statements directed at specific individuals who were not responsible for this economy
crisis. Just because it is different does not mean it
is wrong. People really need to stop the bad negative
statements, and stop judging people unless you think
you are better than GOD in doing so. It is time because the time is now for all people to come together to help each other get through this, and stop,stop making specific statement to further divide the country. When are you going to realize
we all are in this together. So, do not judge others
unless you are willing to be judge. This country was
put together by all people who live in it, and we all
bleed the same way. Every day I pray, and my faith is
in GOD, perhaps he is in yours?
Ohio

Kevin:

That’s not even close to anything I suggested or intimated… in fact it is “your camp” that has either talked about how Obama’s supporters will riot, or how Hillary’s supporters should protest…

I don’t know what camp your talking about. Is it some mind of bible camp? I’m not much into religion. It isn’t band camp, is it? I never went to band camp. I never went to camp at all. Part of my poor childhood, I reckon.

I’m joking with you.

Anyway, Obama surrogate Gov. Wilder back in February (more at http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/0208/Wilders_warning.html) said:

Also, strikingly, he warned of “chaos at the convention” should superdelegates “intervene.”

“If you think 1968 was bad — you watch — 2008 will be worse,” he said.

Just FYI. And I think we can agree it was a dumb thing for Wilder to say.
beebop

That would put her in the same boat with a lot of her fellow senators. Try not to rush to a comment that doesn’t hold up to scrutiny, ‘kay?
beebop

If you would make a point, it would be great to stay to it.

Funny how as adroit as the media is, Kevin, no one has picked up on your point of view.

Maybe you want to run off and send email?

I think that you can save yourself a considerable amount of time — an Obama specialty I note — by going to Taylor Marsh’s website and just copying it. Kind of what Barack does when it comes to looking for an answer to a debate question
beebop

I believe that Uppity has given up on you.

You have either given your identity over to another troll or you have adopted the same lousey lazy habits.

Either way, just remember: A vote for Barack H. Obama guarantees a victory of historic levels for John Sidney McCain III.