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What’s really going on in No. Carolina

By SusanUnPC on May 1, 2008 at 10:54 AM in Barack Obama, Hillary Clinton, North Carolina, Rev. Jeremiah Wright Jr., Soldiers/Veterans

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THE HARD FACTS: REV. WRIGHT is a huge problem for Barack Obama in the state of North Carolina, which votes Tuesday. People know that repudiations don’t count for much when Obama sat in his pews for 20 years, and that Rev. Wright married him, baptized his children, and “blessed” his $1.6M mansion. People know the repudiation was poll-driven. People know the repudiation was “politically expedient.”
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PhotobucketVia Halperin’s Time magazine blog:

Several local papers analyze if the latest slew of events has had an effect on voters.

Charlotte Observer: “Obama forcefully denounced Wright on Tuesday in Winston-Salem…but some white voters remained bothered by Obama’s ties to Wright.”

News & Observer: The North Carolina race is tightening, with Obama’s struggles in distancing himself from Wright “apparently eroding his once formidable lead.”

NOW, here’s the word from two Hillary Clinton supporters, one a soldier at Ft. Bragg, the other a ’round-the-clock grassroots volunteer in North Carolina — as well as Gov. Mike Easley’s new TV ad for Hillary:

This Ft. Bragg soldier’s blog headline?

This blog belongs to a Soldier 4 Hillary.

She writes:

“[S]o many people have crossed the line. More concerned with just “winning” … just thinking about the moment. Not realizing that this is bigger than what I want and need or you may want and need. But our needs as a whole.

Yes change is coming. Because this primary, here, in North Carolina, will go to Senator Clinton. Because we intend to support the candidate, who supports us.

Now, from the grassroots 18/7 volunteer in North Carolina, and the Easley ad:

I’m on the ground in Charlotte. Our Honk 4 Hillary events draw over 15 people, and we elicit honks from virtually everyone who passes us. White women and white undeclared voters in the Republican precincts of south Charlotte have flocked to Clinton. And I hear the rurals are Clinton Country. According to one staffer with whom I am in contact, Clinton will close in on Obama from Asheville and from the vote east of I-95. And then she will cut into his margins in the Research Triange.

The office is buzzing with volunteers. Once Clinton won PA, the Charlotte office was abuzz with telephone calls and sign requests. We will hold an AIDS walk with Chelsea Clinton on Saturday, and my group will continue our Honk 4 Hillary events, which has attracted press inquiries from throughout the country. I guess I have attracted a lot of attention, as I have been on the news five times.

The rally in Charlotte was a huge success: the stadium was full; Clinton delivered an economic populist message; and the crowd was ecstatic. The Easley endorsement has catapulted her campaign into the margin of error, and the Latino and Asian-American communities have rallied behind her.

The Obama campaign has waged a sign war in Charlotte, and they are removing and destroying our signs on private property. The Obama campaign has also sent hate mail to my home and to the homes of members of my group who published letters to the editor in the Charlotte Observer. And yes, young white men and African-Americans make lewd gestures during our Honk for Hillary events. In other words, the electorate is divided, and the mood is bitter.

Obama’s campaign is not visible in Charlotte. Yes, he has two offices, but I have not encountered one volunteer. The Clinton campaign has offices in Charlotte and in all the surrounding rural counties. Bill is visiting small town after small town, and Obama will visit Charlotte for the second time this weekend, as he realizes he has a problem here.

AND — last but by no means least — the NEW North Carolina ad featuring Governor Mike Easley, a superdelegate for Hillary:

Following is the script for the ad.

“Determined”
TV :30

Gov. Easley: These are tough times in America and I think that Hillary is the one we can count on to get the job done.

She’s going to turn the economy around, she’s going bring new jobs, she’s going to get some tax cuts for the middle class for a change.

She’s going to make health care available to everybody in this country, and she’s going to do everything she can to help every child reach their full potential.

She is so resilient, so determined.

She knows how to deliver.

She’ll be a great president.

Hillary Clinton: I’m Hillary Clinton and I approved this message.

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Thanks to Joey Sky for the link to the soldier’s YouTube.

  • http://myspace.com/loyaldissent Garlic-Nosed Guitarist

    Cool! My spirit is soaring! :)

    • http://www.hillaryisourchoice.com MM

      HI all,

      please keep sending letters to DNC and supporting HIllary

      hillaryisourchoice.com

      go hillary!!!

  • sonia

    OBAMA PEOPLE SUCCEEDED IN SWAYING ONE MORE SD FROM CLINTON TO SWITCH TO OBAMA

    MR JOE ANDREW

    WELL JOE IS REALLY STUPID BECAUSE HERE IS THE LATEST POLLS
    Florida

    Clinton 49, McCain 41
    McCain 44, Obama 43

    Ohio

    Clinton 48, McCain 38
    McCain 43, Obama 42

    Pennsylvania

    Clinton 51, McCain 37
    Obama 47, McCain 38

    Key finding:

    Among white working-class voters, Clinton ties McCain 45 – 45 percent in Florida, leads 46 – 40 percent in Ohio and 48 – 40 percent in Pennsylvania. These same voters back McCain over Obama 51 – 34 percent in Florida, 49 – 34 percent in Ohio and 45 – 38 percent in Pennsylvania.
    Of course this is not to say Obama can not win these states (though I think he can not win Florida). Just that Clinton has a better chance of winning them.

    • http://myspace.com/loyaldissent Garlic-Nosed Guitarist

      OBAMA PEOPLE SUCCEEDED IN SWAYING

      This is not a problem. They pocket these things and release them when they want. Stay focused on helping Hillary to win NC and IN and donate if you can. That’s what Hill needs.

      • sonia

        i agree

        thanks

        but i am pissed

        like hell

        anyway
        i donated

        and i am gonna meke at least f,,,king 250 calls today

        these people make me mad and then i actually do more for hillary

        thank you back stabbers ,,you guys give us reason to fight

        • http://myspace.com/loyaldissent Garlic-Nosed Guitarist

          I am pissed as well, I share your profound angst.

      • apishapa

        Wasn’t Obama and the Boyz Club just bitching a few weeks ago about Hillary trying to “steal” Obama delegates? Weren’t there threats if she “stole his votes”?

        I know – “Clinton Rules”.

      • Jeff

        “They pocket these things and release them when they want.”

        How’s that work? Andrew switched from Hillary to Obama.

        • sonia

          u know what jeff

          pls fu*c*king just fu**ck off

          pls shut ur a*ss hole

          pls just shut up

          u got somethinng of ur own to say

          go say to koolaid drinkers

          nobody nobody is gonna switch to obama from her regular folks

          only those big fat rats who get money from obama for thier campaign will run from ship

          • Jeff

            “pls fu*c*king just fu**ck off

            pls shut ur a*ss hole

            pls just shut up “

            For Hillary’s sake, I hope you can do better than that.

            • sonia

              you see

              i am not as nice as hillary ,,,,

              i love her for still telling people to vote for dem in general unlike obama snob

              but see

              for obama,s sake pls fu*c*k * off

              and pls don,t respond to any of my post today

              or
              u will get it all day long

              but i am afraid u r a shameless welfare check looser ,,,,,,

              u have nothing of ur own to say ,,

              so u will bug us all day long

              in that case

              go ahead
              cry ur heart out

              and once done f*u*c*k* off

            • simon, too

              Is Obama losing?

              Then I would suggest she has.

        • Jeff’s Momma

          Oh Jeff! Jefffffffff!

          I made a new batch of Kool-Aid! And your favourite Hillary Clinton cookies!

          • jeff,s Dad

            OH HONEY

            DID THAT LOOSER SON OF OURS RAN AGAIN

            I HOPE HE DID NOT GO THAT CULT AGAIN TO SMOKE THAT PIPE WITH BABY,S BUTT SOFT OBAMA,,,,,,

            PLS CALL HIM

            TELL HIM TO GET REAL

            BECAUSE DREAMS COME TRUE WITH ACTIONS NOT JUST TALK

        • s. hall

          Just a little tit for tat. Clinton has McAuliffe and Rendell — former party chairs so Obama comes up with Joe Andrew no big deal. Now the big one for Obama to come out with would be Howard Dean, the current party chair’s endorsement — however, even though we all know that Howard would walk through fire to get Obama the nomination — he ain’t talkin.

          Obama is at best a copycat and at worst — nothing more than a lazy guy who knows the fat cats who seem to be able to get him anything he wants.

      • Catriley

        That’s why Rep. Lois Capps son-in-law and Obama spokesman, Bill Burton, released the press release about her endorsement, yesterday. It’s a rainy day thing. Everyone KNEW she was going to do that.. considering she lives with Burton and her daughter in the house she helped them to buy. So in that case there was no swaying, though the media would do well to point out that familial factoid.

        Andrew? Who knows WTF he’s doing… Donations from Obama’s PAC perhaps? That’s the dirty little secret that is not talked about enough on the MSM, the fact that Obama’s billionaire friends have fattened the wallets of the Super Delegates to a very obscene amount.

    • DCDemocrat

      Yes, it struck me this morning that what I might say about Mr. Andrews’s judgment, I would not credit him with an impeccable sense of timing.

    • stodghie

      he was already in the tank. they called him forward especially after someone promised him something. of course he’ll never get it because obama will lose the ge and howard and his band of idiots will be replaced.

      • kenoshaMarge

        Then after his knife in the back was met with silence from the Clinton campaign good ol Joe says the following:

        In an interview with ABC News, Andrew says he knows what’s coming from his friends at the Clinton campaign. He anticipates the Clinton campaign “will use the same words and the same language to attack me that Republicans used to attack me when I was DNC chair and I was defending Bill Clinton.”

        “I say this as a longtime participant in old politics,” he says. “I’ve sparred with everyone from Lee Atwater to Karl Rove. . . .The same words will come out of the [Clinton campaign's] surrogates’ mouths to attack me that the Republicans used — and that demonstrates the very hypocrisy of the old politics,” he says.

        Sounds like this clown is all upset that no one is paying any attention to him, so he picks a fight with himself. What a jerk!

        • jeff,s Dad

          This little orchestrated stunt by Axelrod-Gibbs to trot out Joseph Andrew is beyond pathetic. As we’ve seen all along during the past two months, whenever another crisis hits the Obama campaign, instead of showing real leadership and taking personal responsibility for their mistakes, they attack Hillary and trot out another lame endorsement that they’ve put on hold. The whole thing reeks of desperation.

          • s. hall

            Another attempt from Obama to buy himself some love after a rotten 6 weeks. I find it a real bore. What does bother me is the heavy handed way the Obama people are acting in NC.

            Obama tries too hard to get people he can’t
            stand to love him. And now his desperation is showing. I think the electorate is getting tired of Mr. Hopey/Hatey.

            • hillarysmygirl

              Hopey/Hatey!! That’s a good one, I’m using it now.

              The only reason they pulled this little stunt today is because, like other people have mentioned here, they’re running SCARED! I’ll personally buy O-babylamb and Michelle some new Nikes so they can run faster, since they can’t even afford piano lessons for their daughters…waaaaaaaa!

  • OBSP

    I just got off the phone from a Bohead from Chapel Hill (an AA) who told me that BO throwing Rev Wright under the bus has changed his mind about BO.
    I have been telling him since this time last year that he had no diversity on his team nationally (headquarter here in Chicago)and he did not give a darn about anyone but himself and his own ambition. Finally after a year of slamming down the phone on my friend of over 20 plus years, he invited me to a party in CA their doing in May. HRC’s people here told me in February that my friends would come back and they were right and they are Black.

    • sonia

      I AM GLAD TO HEAR THAT
      hillary has always been loyal to dems party and its the people who always betray her

      but she always smiles back and fights back ,,never gives up

      i love u hillary

      we will fight for u

      we will make those calls

      we will make u win for our better future and for a better future of this world

      • Jeff

        “hillary has always been loyal to dems party”

        Right, until she voted for the Iraq War, voted for the credit card bankruptcy bill…

        • simon, too

          You know, the trolls are in integral part of winning, in that they’re used against themselves, and their candidate, or cause, but they can’t figure it out.

          But I understand the nuisance factor.

          If they didn’t troll, they wouldn’t be manipulated, now, would they?

          • beebop

            It never ceases to amaze me how it is that apparently only Hillary and Bush wanted the Iraq war when you listen to the trolls. Doesn’t that strike you as odd? And when you add that to how little Barack Obama actually DID for the anti war movement, the profound feeling I get is usually, is that all you got? When was that 6 years ago? How have you voted recently? How many of your committee meetings have you held?

          • MessyMarcy

            I’ve never understood how the Obama campaign thinks it in any way helps their cause to pay trolls to come to these websites; it seems sort of like trash-talking at a basketball game, and you’d think that Obama, being almost fifty years old, would have outgrown that sort of thing by now.

            One thing you can count on, though, is that when things are going bad over at Obamanation, the Obamatrolls will show up in droves and be even crankier than usual. So, rather than the nuisance they are trying to be, they really are an indication of Hillary’s success — if they were as sure of victory as they like to pretend, they wouldn’t bother with us, they’d just be sitting around contemplating the wonderfulness of their dear leader.

            And DC Democrat, your comment above about timing is really true — it’s like Andrew is actually jumping ONTO a sinking ship.

        • stodghie

          jeff there must be a toilet nearby by where you can dunk your head and clear it.

          • kenoshaMarge

            I think we need a better class of troll. That last bit from this one was pretty lame even from him.

            My question is always; who did you vote for in 2004? If you voted for John Kerry, then shut the fu*k up about how Hillary Clinton voted. If you didn’t vote for Kerry, then you’re a Conservative troll so then just shut the fu*k up anyway.

            • MessyMarcy

              Marge, we keep asking for the good ones; but after all this time, I think we’ll just have to accept that, sadly, this is as good as it gets for Obamatrolls.

            • Taters

              I think we need a better class of troll.

              Hiya kenoshaMarge. LOL!

        • deke

          and Obama voted for the Cheney energy bill. The bill that continues tax incentives for oil and nuclear energy companies but lets expire tax incentives for wind solar and geothermal energy companies.

        • Catriley

          Don’t you have a sign to rip up or a death threat to make today, Jeff? Or are you assigned internet annoyance duty today?

          Let your bosses know you’re doing a pretty bad job of it, they might want to reassign you to draw mustaches on Hillary’s posters or something. You know, something that doesn’t require people skills. Cuz you sound like a broken record.

          Thank so much, btw, for pointing out that Hillary single-handedly started the war in Iraq. I could have sworn that Kerry and other Obama supporters also voted with Hillary. Ah.. and then Mr. I Made A Speech then funded the war like a sheep.

          Brilliant. He was against it before he was for it.

          • hillarysmygirl

            He was against it before he was for it.

            Wonder if Obambi’s ever been wind-surfing?

        • Mary

          How would you have voted> The country was scared about the 9-11 attack. All who voted to give bush the power if he needed it said that they did what they did at the time because it seemed right. Twenty twenty hind sight is good, but not helpful.. obama didn’t vote because he was not a senator and even he said he doesn’t know how he would have voted. But he would have probably just voted present,like he always does, since he is afraid to take a stand an any thing important.

        • SHIPRA

          jeff’s a jerk man he is pathetic,go away u SOB get some life dude

      • Kourian

        That sounds very good. Makes me feel optimistic. :)

    • jd

      obama cares about his people especially AA voters? please, I wish people go look at those rat infested buildings in his district in Chicago.

      • Kourian

        I think that’s a very good idea. It’s the embodiment of HOPE and CHANGE.

      • bwana

        as opposed to the rat-infested buildings in new york?

    • Gary

      Obama wrote in “Dreams of My Father” that “I learned to slip back and forth between my black and white worlds…one of those tricks I had learned: People were satisfied so long as you were courteous and smiled…such a well-mannered young black man.” Yesterday, Obama said,”I did not vet my pastor.” For a man to suggest “words matter,” I am more skeptical of Obama and his “political posturing” then ever before. While I credit him for his “eloquence” I believe his platitudes are motivated by a cunning politician.

    • s. hall

      Thats great news but not unexpected. The AA’s have been used by Obama to feather his own nest. I too, believe the Wright thing has brought this out. Obama hangs with Wright for 20 years. His books show that Obama feels the same anger as Wright and yet he throws Wright and the AA church going community under a bus to save his own ass.

      Its the old old story. To thine own self be true and it shall follow as the night the day — thou canst not then be false to any man.

  • http://hyper-educated-uppity-woman.blogspot.com Uppity

    The Obama campaign has waged a sign war in Charlotte, and they are removing and destroying our signs on private property. The Obama campaign has also sent hate mail to my home and to the homes of members of my group who published letters to the editor in the Charlotte Observer. And yes, young white men and African-Americans make lewd gestures during our Honk for Hillary events.

    And can anybody wonder WHY so many of us will NEVER vote for this pig. And can anybody wonder why we will bust our ASSES to make sure this man is NEVER President??? Show me who your friends are and I will tell you WHAT you are.

    • ANGELinPA

      They did the sign war here too. Me and my husband went out in the wee morning hours and planted Hillary signs on Highways as the days past slowly but surely they were gone.

      If you get a moment today try and make one call to the DNC about Superdelegate Joe Andrew. We need to let the DNC that we will not let them and the SD’s control this election in an unfair way without an outcry. Hillary is up in the polls today and is beating McCain in the polls in the GE. States still haven’t voted and this is a very close election. While you are on the phone with them remind them they have to count FL and MI.

      Andrews wrote in his letter that he is calling for “fellow superdelegates across the nation to heal the rift in our party and unite behind Barack Obama.”

      http://wcbstv.com/campaign08/clinton.superdelegate.switches.2.713041.html

      Please call the DNC’s phone off the hook and jam the email box!!!

      Main Phone Number:
      202-863-8000
      877-336-7200

      deanh@dnc.org or democraticparty@democrats.org

    • rjj

      I hope that solidier in NC 4 Hillary has some big burly friends. She is likely to catch crap from Obama’s Brownshirts.

      Sign wars don’t play well in Middle America. Only white Republicans can pull that off without a generating an immediate and furious backlash.

      • Northwest rain

        Patsy is tough. She’s a leader!

        At one point her website appeared to have been hacked — but she won that battle.

        She knows that Hillary Clinton will do right by the Vets.

        Obama? Who know what the hell he really know or even thinks about our Nation’s Vets? Obama was too lazy to even hold committee hearings — NATO — related — which involve our military in Afghanistan. (I know, singing to the choir.)

    • Judith

      So true, Uppity! Barry the Bird Flipper does not choose his friends well.

  • sonia

    I AM VERY-VERY MAD AT THIS GUY joe andrew

    clintons made him who he is today ,,,

    they made him head of the dnc

    and he did not even call to tell them

    and he was on national tv,,,today talking about the so cALLED GOOD HE SEES IN OBama

    I AM PISSED
    THERE GOES MORE 100$ DONATION TO HILLARY

    KEEP ON BASHING THE ONLY WOMAN STANDING ,,WE WILL KEEP ON DONATING AND FIGHTING BACK ,,,

    • http://hyper-educated-uppity-woman.blogspot.com Uppity

      On my way to donate to Hillary.

      This crap is about panic. They don’t want their baby Jesus looking bad in some more primaries. So….

      “let’s pick the winner but everybody gets to vote, even though their voice means shit to us. We gotta get that fella nominated now before he looks like the BIG LOSER that he is for November”.

      • sonia

        yes u r right

        plus

        pls encourage everyone to blog at the main hillary site too

        we need to show unity and work together on our goals of the day

        • simon, too

          Did you see his picture?

          Nuff said.

          Poor guy.

    • Jeff

      “I AM VERY-VERY MAD AT THIS GUY joe andrew “

      Like some cheese with that?

      • sonia

        no

        i like to kick ur ass with that u idiot

        • Strawberrybitch

          Sonia, really now, quit picking on Jeffy. It’s not nice to beat up on the mentally challenged.

    • beebop

      Sonia:

      There is a really good point to all of this.

      Every Hillary Clinton supporter is that much more committed.

      Had you even heard of this guy before today?

      Much more intersting that Obamanation is doing exactly what he accused Hillary of doing. He is ripping the Democratic party in two, will lose by a landslide in November and the party will be no more. Is this the kind of history they were looking to make?

    • workingclass artist

      Clinton lines up govenors…..Govenors trump every one ele unless thay are Judas Richardson who’s days in office are numbered and Blagovich who’s days unimpeached are numbered…..She will take In. and Nc.
      Love the ad and the local headlines are a big plus…..

  • sonia

    EVERYONE

    PLS BLOG AT http://blog.hillaryclinton.com/

    WE MUST MAKE THAT FULL OF LINKS FOR OTHERS TO FOLLOW
    WE MUST GIVE INSTRUCTIONS TO EACH OTHER ON DAILY GOALS,,

    we have to do this together

    so pls whoever has any good links,,youtube videos,,,,lists of sd,d and gov to call,,,

    any good news or bad news,,,

    don,t forget to post at the main hillary website where everyone can follow it

    blog at least 5 or 10 times there

  • http://hyper-educated-uppity-woman.blogspot.com Uppity

    Superdelegate AFLCIO President in CT. Just went for Hillary.

    • sonia

      oh

      thanks for thegood news

    • beebop

      A man who can read and understand WTF is happening.

  • http://hyper-educated-uppity-woman.blogspot.com Uppity

    Oh and by the way, superdelegates can change their minds right up until convention time. They can switch whenever they want to, as you just saw. They may be trying to help that slug now for a vote push, but let’s see what happens in the next primaries.

    • bwana

      true. but so far, we’ve only seen supers switch from her column to his. guess they must just be ‘children’ like the rest of obama’s supporters…

    • workingclass artist

      Agree…..They can take the money and run ( for the good of the party )
      so to speak……I don’t pay too much attention unless they are local to the race like the Gov. of Nc.

  • http://www.grotte-de-han.be/index.php?docID=132 chatsauvage

    “young white men making lewd gestures”

    those are probably the same people destroying signs. drunk frat boys who hate women and who are in denial about their white privilege taking out their suburban frustrations on hillary supporters. they are thugs.

    • simon, too

      Right, the haters are really in denial about their sexuality, self haters.

      I truly believe it.

      Sexuality, and death are supposed to drive most behavior, we cope with our sexuality given our early environment, some of our parents were very open minded, and tolerant, had healthy attitudes regarding sexuality, others weren’t (speaking of brainwashing a kid, yow!) I say this in general, I have no academic studies to back me up, it’s just a personal observation after watching these guys…

      Anyway, it would be my best guess haters feel, underneath it all, sex is icky, but sex with a guy?

      Ewwwwwwwwwwww.

      • http://www.grotte-de-han.be/index.php?docID=132 chatsauvage

        you are exactly right. they know they are vulnerable, and they know they are in denial about their sexuality and their privilege. And they always enact violence against the mother in their failed attempts to attain a full Oedipalization.

        • simon, too

          And the father is always absent, even when he’s there, it is the absolute lack of a male role model, a mature male role model, teaching them to be human, properly socialized in a highly complex world.

          So many factors are present, but really, with those people, it comes down to, “sex is icky,” and “my parents didn’t love me.”

          This is all very general, btw, it’s certainly more intricate.

          • stodghie

            hmm, i bet mommy gave them materials things but little of the rest they needed. so now they hate. down the road some will think their wives are punching bags.

    • s. hall

      Obama does not attract a good class of supporters. Look at Randi Rhodes calling Geraldine Ferraro and Hillary Clinton F’n Whores. Randi did this at an Obama fundraiser but Obama said nothing. I guess he would have if it burned his ass. Cause thats the only time he reacts.

    • Catriley

      Oddly enough, any of us who marched against the War in 2003 remembers those same frat boys harrassing us with lewd gestures and threats. Same guys, different fad. I know this for a fact as the University near where were protesting was full of the obnoxious white boyz driving around the march harrassing us, and that same school now is filled with angry white obamatrons. Same demographic, same school, different fad.

      Obama is seeing his support slip because these guys cannot keep that enthusiasm up. Those types of “voters” are just in it for the fun circle-jerk aspect. Doesnt’ translate in the GE.

      • Strawberrybitch

        Can’t keep up the enthusiasm? Something tells me that’s not all they can’t keep up, which might explain the anger.

        • hillarysmygirl

          LOL!

          Someone said here, a few months ago, that crushes don’t last long, and since the school year’s almost over, they’re starting to lose their focus. Summer’s coming and then we’re on to the next fad. By the time November’s here, it’ll be Obama Who?

        • beebop

          I believe that the ravings of KO and the gang can be attributed to three four things:

          viagra
          cialis
          levitra
          not getting any

  • mary

    Susan, Rev Wright is indeed a big problem for Barack Obama. But I firmly believe that Obama’s biggest problem is Obama. The ethical compromises he has constantly made, from the very beginning of his political career are all coming back to bite him.

  • Kefa

    OT……THE MICHIGAN/FLORIDA PEOPLE ARE MAD AND ARE GOING TO MARCH AND CLOSE DOWN THE CONVENTION FROM WHAT I AM HEARING AND FROM WHAT I JUST HEARD ON THE RADIO AND RUSH L. CONTACTED SALAZARS OFFICE TODAY AND TOLD HIM THE CONVENTION WILL BE SHUT DOWN. CAN WE GET THIS CONFIRMED?????

    • Patrick Walker

      The Recreate ’68 group is already going to shut the convention down unless Obama gets the nomination.

      MI and FL delegates won’t have to do anything to shut the convention down.

      • simon, too

        Just have the senior citizens go to Denver, rent cars, get in front of Obama’s kids, driving 20 mph while refusing to let them pass, and after a few hours of this, well, Obama’s team will be begging for relief.

        The teamsters use this very same method, don’t they?

        • sonia

          lol,,,,u gave me my first laugh of the day

          • simon, too

            We speak of all these kids, and running around so dangerously, and arrogantly, and so many of our parents, or grandparents, due to age, have seen it all, they simply will not tolerate this behavior, and why should they?

            And if they can put it in perspective, easily, so can we.

            We speak of the problems Cheney and Bush have caused with their reckless, obtuse arrogance, for this country and our government, the world, I think of what England has endured over the centuries.

            And I’ve noticed the one thing that kept England vital all these years was it’s ability to increase the freedoms it gave to it’s people, from the Magna Carta, to Elizabeth the first, and so on.

            So it’s a lesson, to me, and a model, of sorts, England, to me anyway, has produced some of the finest thinking, ever.

            Music and literature, too.

            I guess one follows the other.

        • Judith

          Too funny!

        • Fredster

          Don’t forget to make the Seniors leave the turn signal on as they drive down the street.

      • stodghie

        just depends on who gets there first. let the tv show joe sixpack fighting for what’s his. that’ll sure impress the voters with what lying tools the dims have become.

      • CoYoungDem

        I am in Colorado. I campaigned here for Salazar, Feeley and Clinton and I am telling you the convention will be fine.

        Recreate 68 is a joke. Don’t let them scare you.

        • http://myspace.com/loyaldissent Garlic-Nosed Guitarist

          Thanks for the info.

        • hillarysmygirl

          Thanks, CoYoungDem! I’m sure it will be fine, too. Howard Dean had his lunch money stolen one too many times and is permanently scarred. He can’t handle bullies and their scare tactics.

        • workingclass artist

          I think your right after all a lot of these kids would have to borrow the money to paticipate right ?
          Typical Obamatot : “….Like mom…..um…..me and some guys i met on line are gonna …..um like go to Denver cuz…..um we want Obama to win and not get ripped off or anything…..so …um can i borrow some money……I’ll pay you back……Kay ? ”
          Typical Obamatot Mom : ” Gee Hon…..What are you going to do in Denver ? ”
          Obamatot : “…..Like there’s this …..um site on the net…..It’s realy cool……It’s called recreat68…..and like you can go check it out…..um……They are gettin stufffor us to do to keep Obama from gettin ripped off…..You know….?
          Typical Obamatot Dad : ” It’s called recreate68 ? ……NO! “

    • simon, too

      Yeah, I’ve heard it’s lethal to piss off a bunch of senior citizens.

      I’m not kidding, Dean should not have antagonized FL.

      And most of those FL ‘snowbirds” come form MI.

      Or New Jersey.

      • stodghie

        lots of new yorkers in florida. need i say more?

      • Northwest rain

        There are a whole lot of Pennsylvania SnowBirds in Florida. And they made sure that their absentee ballots were filled out and returned!

        I know a few of these Florida Snowbirds — and wow were they pissed about Florida’s votes being thrown away by DEAN/Obama.

        Wonder why Obama lost so badly in Pennsylvania – look to Florida for one of the reasons.

        I’m told that the Spring return migration up the Eastern Seaboard is truly an amazing sight.

    • llilytoo

      I suggest that if closing down the convention is what they are after,
      it’s likely Blackwater who will be showing up pertending to be from MI and Fla . This reminds me of the supposedly ” enraged citizens” who stopped the vote recounting in FLa in 2000. Turned out they were GOP operatives. I suggest the actual voters of MI and FLA would not travel all the way to Denver to protest…when they can do so now in their sate or Washington DC.
      I suggest this is Blackwater etc. Particularly if Rush knows about it

      • simon, too

        Blackwater is not omnipotent, in fact, given what I’ve seen, they’re ripe for gaming, too, same internal confusion as Cheney’s group.

        Everyone has enemies, no one operates in a vacuum.

        • llilytoo

          Well whoever, it would be child’s play
          for GOP to send folks in pretending
          it’s an grassroot protest…the press is waiting to play along. It sickens me to see Dean bow to the ground to Nancy & Sorso. A few years ago I thought oh great a billonare who wants to help Dems! I should have known

          • rjj

            And it is just the thing they love to do!

            No need to pay Blackwater. Young Republicans will do it for a ticket, a hotel room, and free beer.

          • simon, too

            I guess even though I know the GOP can do this, it doesn’t necessarily mean they’re all powerful, perhaps someone is setting them up.

            And we should stop thinking of them as all powerful, despite their weak minded corruption. This group lost three wars, essentially, so someone is obviously capable of beating them.

            To a pulp.

    • s. hall

      kefa — alot of propaganda is being spewed, like rioting if Obama doesn’t get the nomination. I hope cooler heads will prevail and that Howard Dean resigns.

  • Jack
  • NoBama

    About these superdelegates. They are all getting paid by Obama in PAC money or who knows what to support him. He has the resources to do it and he is using it to his advantage.
    I think there are about 30 superdelegates who want Obama, remember they were all going to come out after Ohio if he had won and support him, but froze when she beat him there. Those 30 supers Obama and Hillary know who they are, so whenever Obama runs into trouble he cashes one of his chips and brings one of these fools out to spin the media his way. He did it with Richardson after Rev. Wright first appeared.
    I think if Hillary can take IN and be close in NC, these idiots may start to see the light. Also if MI and FL get seated properly, the delegate difference will be under 100.

    • simon, too

      I would also question the tactics, and legality of many of the caucuses.

      Given how dirty Obama is, and his use of the “Chicago way” I would suspect voter fraud, esp after what happened in Texas.

      As such, even the delegate counts reflect an inaccurate picture.

      Perception is not reality, in the way guys like Axelrod, and Rove think.

      Perception is highly subjective, in some.

      • Jeff

        “I would also question the tactics, and legality of many of the caucuses.”

        “Perception is not reality, in the way guys like Axelrod, and Rove think.

        Perception is highly subjective, in some.”

        Typical S.O.P. at No Quarter:

        -Start with an unappealing scenario.

        -Question its validity.

        -Arrive at the conclusion that said scenario does not actually exist.

        • simon, too

          Yes, they call it “critical thinking.”

          Try it sometime.

          Oh, yeah, that talk about using the trolls against themselves?

          Right over your head, eh, fanboi?

          • simon, too

            But, then, given Bill Kristol and Karl Rove pass for intellectuals in your group, what else can be expected?

            Not much, and you don’t disappoint.

            • Jeff

              How’s that circular conversation working out for you?

    • Jeff

      “They are all getting paid by Obama in PAC money or who knows what to support him.”

      Remember when Hillary paid off $400,000 of former Iowa Gov. Tom Vilsack’s campaign debt in exchange for his endorsement? I sure do.

      • stodghie

        jeff, stfu! go clean out your ears and stop drinking koolaid. he will poison your stomach.

        • Jeff

          I guess I shouldn’t be surprised this is the only retort to my mention of Hillary’s bribe to Vilsack.

          • Judith

            Where is WorkingClassArtist? Does this guy, Jeff, remind you of the bratty kid on Boston Legal last night? I can hear him interjecting “yes we can” into every other sentence! Jeff’s Dad, Jeff’s Mom, please take away his car keys and check card until he learns better manners. Better yet, make him go back to school…it’s not wise to drop out for a year to blog for a radical.

            • workingclass artist

              I think your right after all a lot of these kids would have to borrow the money to paticipate right ?
              Typical Obamatot : “….Like mom…..um…..me and some guys i met on line are gonna …..um like go to Denver cuz…..um we want Obama to win and not get ripped off or anything…..so …um can i borrow some money……I’ll pay you back……Kay ? ”
              Typical Obamatot Mom : ” Gee Hon…..What are you going to do in Denver ? ”
              Obamatot : “…..Like there’s this …..um site on the net…..It’s really cool……It’s called recreat68…..and like you can go check it out…..um……They are gettin stufffor us to do to keep Obama from gettin ripped off…..You know….?
              Typical Obamatot Dad : ” It’s called recreate68 ? ” (dad goes online )
              Tyical Dad : “….NO !….”

            • workingclass artist

              I think your right after all a lot of these kids would have to borrow the money to paticipate right ?
              Typical Obamatot : “….Like mom…..um…..me and some guys i met on line are gonna …..um like go to Denver cuz…..um we want Obama to win and not get ripped off or anything…..so …um can i borrow some money……I’ll pay you back……Kay ? ”
              Typical Obamatot Mom : ” Gee Hon…..What are you going to do in Denver ? ”
              Obamatot : “…..Like there’s this …..um site on the net…..It’s really cool……It’s called recreat68…..and like you can go check it out…..um……They are gettin stuff for us to do to keep Obama from gettin ripped off…..You know….?
              Typical Obamatot Dad : ” It’s called recreate68 ? ” (dad goes online )
              Tyical Dad : “….NO !….”

              • Judith

                Funny stuff!

      • rjj

        Hillary’s not New! Fresh! Different!

        She’s competent, pragmatic, AND she’s NOT booooorrrrrrred!

        “Arrrre weeeee theeeeerrrrrre yeeeeet?”

        thanks to whoever posted that (AWTY) line yesterday. Loved the commen

        • hillarysmygirl

          Apparently the question he’s asking now isn’t “Are we there yet?” but “Wherrrrrrrrre arrrrrrrrre weeeeee?”

      • simon, too

        Was it a direct kickback from a Syrain terrorist group though, an effort to launder money, say?

        Obama does business a little differently.

        “he is, a wannabe star”

        I’m writing a troll version of “Video Killed the Radio Star.”

        Something about pretentious no talents…

  • JoeySky

    susan, thanks for this great story. Now I see why Obama booted Wright.

  • J.Foreman

    Did anyone see Gov. Easley on Charlie Rose last night. That pig Charlie Rose tried to roast the government over his support for Hillary. I hope the interview is available. He was very combatant to the Governor pissing about why haven’t you had a conversation with Obama and try to get to know Obama and his ideas. Right after Gov. Easley was on Arianna creep Huffington was on. CNN had to be one up so they had Michelle Obama on thir show last night. Such pandering I have never seen in any prior election. Obama has the money so yes he is buying SDs.

    • workingclass artist

      Agree…..Charlie Rose is Persona non grata in my book……He has revealed his INNER PUTZ…….nuff said……..

  • http://myspace.com/loyaldissent Garlic-Nosed Guitarist

    THE HARD FACTS: REV. WRIGHT is a huge problem for Barack Obama in the state of North Carolina, which votes Tuesday. People know that repudiations don’t count for much when Obama sat in his pews for 20 years, and that Rev. Wright married him, baptized his children, and “blessed” his $1.6M mansion. People know the repudiation was poll-driven. People know the repudiation was “politically expedient.”

    Excellent summary. The trolls will pick at the edges of whatever is said like vultures on a carcass. But they fail to see they are consuming their own souls (metaphorically) in the process. The other troll behaviors are well documented and obvious. What matters is what is going on in NC and IN. Keep focused on helping those efforts and donating if you can. The trolls are noise and a diversion. You might consider not feeding them.

    • jwrjr

      Trolls have souls? You couldn’t tell from their comments.

      • simon, too

        Trolls have souls?You couldn’t tell from their comments

        That’s because their souls belong to someone else.

        In reality, when someone, a troll, say, pushes PR in this manner, and your candidate is accepting money from Hamas, say, or is horrifically corrupt, compromising national security, really,selling himself, his position to Auchi, that in my mind makes you a traitor, even if you only spout PR from a small office in Chicago.

        I mean, really, look at it clearly.

        The army trains people to spew the same crap in China, say, for defense reasons, and here some Chicagoan is doing the same thing, to the American government, for Obama, or Bush, in the name of a PR presidency, “at any cost.”

        But look at how it’s hurt the country, running for President a piece of garbage who is blatantly corrupt, dealing with terrorists or their representatives, making money off a war, like it’s just another business, while other Americans DIE, for god’s sake.

  • Sandy in PA

    Thanks to the volunteer from NC for the on the ground report. We experienced the exact same things here in PA, the sign wars, foul language from BO supporters at visbility events, and harassing phone calls from BO supporters for anyone with a listed number who got a letter to the editor published in the local papers here. Hillary won PA, and her volunteers NEVER would have stooped to such appalling levels.

    The volunteers in NC are fighting the good fight. Our hats are off to them and we are keeping a good thought for them!

    • http://myspace.com/loyaldissent Garlic-Nosed Guitarist

      Thanks for your encouraging words. This must be a very demoralizing time for the poor trolls. :)

  • sonia

    This is the contact information for Joe Andrew. The new Judus who just switched his support from Hillary to Obama and put out a letter stating we need stop the primaries and rally around Obama. We are flooding his email with angry letters. Please write. Thanks.

    PASS AROUND JOE ANDREWS CONTACT INFORMATION FAR AND WIDE:

    Phone: 202-408-5210

    jandrew@sonnenschein.com

    http://www.sonnenschein.com/attorneys/index.aspx?aid=0004475

    • http://www.grotte-de-han.be/index.php?docID=132 chatsauvage

      are you surprised? sonnenschein is a major law firm in chicago.

    • Jeff

      “The new Judus who just switched his support from Hillary to Obama”

      Who’s “Judus”?

      • simon, too

        Ashley Judd’s older brother, he’s dying from Hep C, but he thought he’s put in some last quality time with Obama, because, dammit, “Obama is the future of America.”

    • http://myspace.com/loyaldissent Garlic-Nosed Guitarist

      The new Judus who just switched

      I don’t accept that he “just switched” — he could have switched 2 weeks ago for all we know. He’s just as likely to be a special Judas they had in the pocket for just such a bad week as this one. So its good to contact him and share your angst, but no need to let the Obama camp get extra umph from this “just switched” event. We know the Obama camp lies and deceives, after all. I err on the side of them staging this “revelation” due to observing their past behaviors.

  • sonia

    come on guys

    lets blog at hillary ,s website too

    i wanna see at least 500 comments there

    and lets make calls

  • orionATL

    i’ve said it before, maybe even here, i can’t remember,

    but

    whenever you see a superdelegate behave like obama’s new recruit, joe andrews

    please recall that senator obama’s campaign controls a huge hoard of gold, in excess of $200 million,

    it’s this money that democratic power mavens want to get their hands on.

    it’s this money that may well determine that obama is the nominee not clinton, though clinton is leagues more qualified to be president.

    the delegate vote totals are just the convenient rationale which howard dean, nancy pelosi, harry reid, and joe andrews use to mask their interest in that $200+ million hoard.

    money talks in politics;

    big money talks very loudly.

    • jd

      plus pelosi gang want to get rid of the Clintons too.

      • simon, too

        Ever watch a dog chase it’s tail?

        That’s what it’s like watching that crew…

        • workingclass artist

          Agree….It’s like the clash of titanic egos….Embarrassing for America.

          Pessimum genus inimicorum laudantes……..
          Translation : Flatterers are the worst type of enemies….

  • jeff,s Dad

    See what the GOP have put together about Senator Obama? It’s something that should be brought to the attention of all Democrats!

    http://www.columbiacountyrepublicanparty.org/

  • jeff,s Dad

    Great post by Big Tent Democrat:

    http://www.talkleft.com/story/2008/5/1/81118/66384

  • http://hyper-educated-uppity-woman.blogspot.com Uppity

    ROFL guess what the Obam argument on Fox is today? Obviously the Wright issue showed what a strong candidate he is, because if any OTHER candidate went through what has happened in the past week, their numbers would have tanked MORE.

    Think about that. I’ll wait…

    • http://myspace.com/loyaldissent Garlic-Nosed Guitarist

      Ah the Obama camp they spin and spin an all they get in the end is dizziness, a big headache and a pink slip from the American people. I am so very much enjoying watching this! :)

    • jeff,s Dad

      HE IS STUPID

    • JoeySky

      OMG!!! HE’s so arrogant!

      NO intelligent candidates will put themselves in his situation.

      BO thinks he can’t do no wrong. He’s in deep doo-doo and he still doesn’t know it.

    • hillarysmygirl

      And in what universe are these fairy-tale numbers? Oops, sorry, “fairy-tale” was racist. My bad.

    • simon, too

      His numbers DID tank, down 17, and in free fall.

      They are in a fantasy, you see how hard it is to spin, and try to float at the same time, maintaining the lie?

      You can’t, every little “PING” steps on your toes, there is no there, there, only a constant effort to hide the corruption, and such.

      What happens when he can no longer use the office of Senate as a fort, of sorts?

  • jeff,s Dad

    Did you see this one?

    I love thw whole family!

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6YW0x_WMC7s&feature=related

    • HT

      brilliant video!

  • ModDem

    Obama gets one more SuperDel today.

    A leader of the Democratic Party under Bill Clinton switched his allegiance to Barack Obama on Thursday and urged fellow Democrats to end the bruising nomination fight.
    “He has shown such mettle under fire,” Andrew said in the interview. “The Jeremiah Wright controversy just reconfirmed for me, just as the gas tax controversy confirmed for me, that he is the right candidate for our party.”
    In a lengthy letter explaining his decision, Andrew said he is switching his support because “a vote for Hillary Clinton is a vote to continue this process, and a vote to continue this process is a vote that assists (Republican) John McCain.”

    • http://myspace.com/loyaldissent Garlic-Nosed Guitarist

      Someone said he “just switched” to Obama. I don’t buy it, as I said:

      I don’t accept that he “just switched” — he could have switched 2 weeks ago for all we know. He’s just as likely to be a special Judas they had in the pocket for just such a bad week as this one. So its good to contact him and share your angst, but no need to let the Obama camp get extra umph from this “just switched” event. We know the Obama camp lies and deceives, after all. I err on the side of them staging this “revelation” due to observing their past behaviors.

  • jeff,s Dad

    Also let’s start another fund raising drive today in honar of Judas Joe. Donate today for Hillary if you are pissed about this guy not supporting democracy!!
    Thanks!

    http://www.hillaryclinton.com/contribute/7M5F

  • Nag

    Hillary seems to be fighting the good fight in NC. Obama’s young thugs speak volumes as to what kind of campaign he’s running. Scumbags and loosers. Fewer voters are seeing him as the Savior.

    I look back to when I heard Oprah say “He is ‘The One’”, and how my stomach turned to hear that kind of dangerous messianic message coming from a talk show host. My stomach seems to have been correct: Turns out that Barak Obama is a consummate liar with nothing to back it up. Nothing but threats of violence, dirty tricks and thuggery. Yuk.

    • hillarysmygirl

      My stomach turned, too, that day. But you reap what you sow…Oprah’s ratings have fallen dramatically since then, while Ellen (I love Hillary) Degeneres’ ratings have soared.

      • workingclass artist

        Hmmm…….That might be a plus that comes from this primary……
        The DEOPRAHIZATION OF AMERICA…….

  • jeff,s Dad

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/joseph-j-andrew/on-my-switch-from-clinton_b_99621.html

    definately this is a call to action!!!……..go leave him your message!!

    • B-Rob

      Rather than call to complain, why not listen to what he has said? And Lois Capps . . . and Bob Reich . . . and Bill Richardson?

      • simon, too

        Because Obama is connected to terroists, that’s why?

        What’s the issue here, simple minded one, what can’t you grasp?

        It’s OK to betray your country?

        It’s not, there is no such think as “traitor chic.”

        But given this is group that thinks Karl Rove and Bill Kristol are intelligent, well, no one would expect less.

        Now, sell that Amway, boi!

        • simon, too

          Thing, not think…

          that would actually be a throwback to a song called “think pink” by the fabulous poodles.

          Something about pretentious trolls, and pink poodles, I guess, with you, “Jeff” something just clicks.

  • jeff,s Dad

    JEFF

    I AM LOOKING FOR U

    U NEED MORE KOOLAID

    U NEED UR ,,,,,

  • B-Rob

    This must warm every Hill-bot heart! Now you can use Wright as the excuse for your REAL SENTIMENTS!

    “I really don’t want an African-American as President … I thought about it. I think he would put too many minorities in positions over the white race. That’s my opinion. After 1964, you saw what the South did … There’s a lot of white people that just wouldn’t vote for a colored person. Especially older people.”

    - a Clinton supporter in Eastern Kentucky, to George Packer of the New Yorker.

    • KJMontana

      I just sent this e-mail to Joe Andrews:

      Mr. Andrews,
      I have just read that you switched your support as a Superdelegate from Hillary Clinton to Barack Obama.

      In case you don’t know, the General Election is about electability. Mr. Obama has ties to William Ayers and his wife Bernadine Dohrn (known and unrepentant domestic terrorists), Tony Resko (currently on trial for corruption), Nadhmi Auchi, a leading arms supplier to Saddam Hussein’s regime, and of course a 20 year relationship with his “uncle” Jeremiah Wright.

      Of more concern to me though, is Mr. Obama’s lack of experience, most particularly his complete dereliction of duty as Chairman of the Senate subcommittee responsible for Europe and NATO.

      In case you haven’t noticed Mr. Andrews, the United States is LOSING IN AFGHANISTAN. 70% OF THE COUNTRY IS NOW IN THE HANDS OF THE TALIBAN. Mr. Obama’s job on this subcommittee was to generate greater NATO support for operations in Afghanistan. What did he do? NOTHING. Mr. Obama admitted in a debate in November he was too busy running for president to convene a single meeting of that subcommittee.

      If the cast of miscreants Mr. Obama associates with does not give you pause, then his lack of judgment, his inexperience, and his complete and utter disregard for doing the job he was elected to do by the people of Illinois should.

      In short, Mr. Obama is UNELECTABLE in the General Election.

      I have been a Democrat for years. I will NEVER vote for Mr. Obama.

      Think about it.

      • hillarysmygirl

        What a concise and eloquent letter! Hillary’s supporters are amazing…(patting myself on the back)

    • beebop

      bros before hos?

      • simon, too

        “black is the new bitch”

        bros don’t like that…heh.

      • simon, too

        Black is the new bitch.

        bros don’t like that one…

      • workingclass artist

        Hmmmm…….CHIX B4 DIX……chuckle……..

  • jeff,s Dad

    Gallup Poll Daily tracking finds Barack Obama trailing Hillary Clinton by 4 percentage points in national Democratic nomination preferences (49%-45%) and John McCain by 4 points (47%-43%) in the latest general election trial heat.

    HA HA

    OBAMA IS LOOSING IT

    • JoeySky

      and Obots are loosing their mind.
      arrggggaahhhh..(running back to the HQ).
      Alexrod! Help! Help!
      Give us some new talking points!!
      The Judas Joe didn’t work..
      arrrggghhhhhahhhhaaaggggghhhhh……..

  • B-Rob

    WHERE IS MY WELFARE CHECK

    • simon, too

      It’s in the form of a Syrian kickback.

      Obama said to call.

  • B-Rob

    I need money to buy more koolaid

    where is my welfare check

  • B-Rob

    Ok, here are the NC polls via RCP:

    Poll Date Sample Obama Clinton Spread

    RCP Average 04/26 -04/29 — 48.4 41.2 Obama+7.2

    Mason-Dixon 04/28 – 04/29 49 42 Obama +7.0

    Insider Adv 04/29 -04/29 42 44 Clinton +2.0

    I wish we had just a little more time. I think we could pull off a win.

  • Jeff

    “Joining in the criticism was House Majority Leader Steny H. Hoyer (D-Md.), who said that the Democratic leadership of Congress has no intention of pursuing the summer tax suspension that Clinton touted. The move ‘would not be positive,’ he said. ‘The oil companies would just raise their prices.’”

  • sonia

    Here is a link to some of the UNCOMMITTED SUpers from PA
    http://altmire.house.gov/IMA/issue_subscribe.shtml

    http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Tim_Hol...

    http://www.house.gov/doyle/

    Can someone create a page with all the other links so that we can all access those ?

  • B-Rob

    By the way, the Obama campaign pays me to write comments here.

    • Jeff

      Me too. Did you attend the training in February?

      • Jeff

        I didn’t write that, but it’s funny!

        • JEFF

          JEFF

          I BEEN LOOKING FOR U

          U FORGOT TO FINISH UR WAFFLES….

        • B-Rob

          Jeff, that is when you KNOW you are under their skin! If imitation is the sincerest form of flattery, what is identity theft?

          • B-Rob

            You should know, for you stole my identity.

      • JEFF

        Northwestern University has decided withdraw an offer to Reverend Jeremiah Wright for an honorary degree.

        Wright’s comments on race have become a major issue in the Democratic race for president. He was to receive an honorary doctorate in sacred theology at Northwestern’s commencement in June.

        The university says the controversy around Wright might detract from the celebratory nature of the graduation ceremony.

        • http://myspace.com/loyaldissent Garlic-Nosed Guitarist

          The university says the controversy around Wright might detract from the celebratory nature of the graduation ceremony.

          That is the understatement of all time! :)

    • suckers

      look at u guys

      finally you found each other

      both pipe smokers and koolaid drinkers

      well have fun

      oh,,by the way

      i heard that trainingwas taking place in trinity churvh

      did obama throw u under the bus too???

      hahahahhhhhahahhhhahahahahhahhahahahhaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

      • B-Rob

        Some little tool has stolen my moniker. Oh, well, I guess I will have to change my name.

    • B-Rob

      HA HA HA HA! Funny!

      I bet you call grocery stores and ask them to page “Mike Hunt” or “Heywood Jablowmey”! Juvenile simp!

    • s. hall

      The Obama Campaign must be in big trouble if you are the best they can get.

      • http://myspace.com/loyaldissent Garlic-Nosed Guitarist

        LOL. Haven’t seen you around, pleased to make your acquaintance.

  • http://myspace.com/loyaldissent Garlic-Nosed Guitarist

    Troll meltdown in progress! :)

    • hillarysmygirl

      LOL! To quote Paul McCrane’s character in Robocop:

      I LIIIIIKE IT!

  • B-Rob

    Hilarious!

    You Hill-bots are so friggin insecure that you can’t intelligently challenge my posts, so some knuckle dragging mother fcuker appropriates my moniker! It’s that originality of thinking that explains why you losers are going down the tubes . . . like running a “red phone” ad that FAILED in two prior presidential campaigns! W.t.f.!

    Nah, Hill-bots, ye shall know me by my posts. My posts will never let up on the thinly veiled racism tinged posts in this place. So me Jeff and Jason will continue to haunt you with the specter of scary common sense and indellible truth!

    • Jeff

      “So me Jeff and Jason will continue to haunt you with the specter of scary common sense and indellible truth!”

      AMEN!

    • rjj

      Both of you: CLEAN UP THAT ROOM!

      You tracked Cheeto crumbs into the bathroom and there are yellow fingerprints on the toilet seat.

  • ModDem

    Latest Poll I found.

    Obama maintains his edge over Clinton in North Carolina.
    Obama leads Clinton 63-26 among voters under age 35, while Clinton has a 47-45 edge among voters over 50. He has the support of 87 percent of black voters, while Clinton leads among whites with 62 percent. By party registration, Obama led 48 percent to 43 percent among Democrats and 55-38 among independent or unaffiliated voters.

  • sonia

    judging by todays polls and what i am reading, they are not buying Bambi’s explanation, especially the independents.

    Rassmussen looks unbelievably bad for him today and if it is bad, it means its much worse than that.

    I mean New Hampshires voter are saying this, its bad because they are a good sounding board.

    Fifty-three percent (53%) of New Hampshire voters have followed news stories about Obama’s former Pastor Very Closely. Another 32% have followed the story Somewhat Closely. Most (53%) say that Obama was not surprised by Wright’s views expressed to the media on Monday. Only 32% believe the Democratic frontrunner was surprised. A plurality of Democrats (47%) were willing to give Obama the benefit of the doubt on this point, but most unaffiliated voters and an overwhelming percentage of Republicans were not.

    Fifty-four percent (54%) of New Hampshire voters say it’s at least Somewhat Likely that Obama shares some of Pastor Wright’s controversial views about the United States. That figure includes 73% of Republicans, 55% of unaffiliated voters, and 36% of Democrats.

    Most voters (56%) say Obama denounced Wright because it was politically convenient. Only 33% believe he was truly outraged.

    • beebop

      Most voters (56%) say Obama denounced Wright because it was politically convenient. Only 33% believe he was truly outraged.

      And of that 33%, 65% recognized that Obama’s outrage was linked to him being insulted by Reverend Wright and not by any other aspect of the comments made … The other 35% kept repeating hopeychangey ;)

      • s. hall

        Right Beebop — It only hurts when it hurt him. He feels nothing about the rest of us. Alot of commentators mentioned that it was all about his outrage for himself and not about the American people.

        • beebop

          Maybe he IS related to Cheney!

  • http://nobloodforhubris.blogspot.com No Blood for Hubris

    Is there anyone Barry hasn’t thrown under the bus?

    BARRY-O: THE MAN WHO WOULD BE (PROM) KING

    • s. hall

      You don’t understand — when you have nothing to offer the people you have to play one group against another to get a specific state until you don’t know who you’re supposed to be and what state your in.

      I will say this for Wright. He is who he is all the time. Its Obama — the Rich Little of politics who is the mimic. Obama does do a mean Martin Luther King. I’ll give him that.

    • B-Rob

      Another wing nut talking point repeated by the Hill-bots! You folks get credit for consistency, but not for originality. But then again . . . this is the same campaign that resurrected the “red phone” ad used by two other failed presidential candidates, thinking that THIS TIME IT WILL WORK!

      • R-Bob

        I’d like to point out that the above B-Rob is an impersonator. The real B-Rob has a job and it’s not working for David Axelrod’s Internet team.

  • B-Rob

    Jeff, will Kevin join us today? This place is crazy. I will call Chicago and ask if someone else should join us.

    • JEFF

      CALL OBAMA HEADQUARTERS

  • s. hall

    Could anyone tell me what Black Liberation Theology is? I cannot find out anything about this but Obama and Wright are both proponents of this. Sometimes Fox uses the phrase but they do not go into it any further.

    It is my feeling that if more were known about this then Obama would definitely be toast. The media knows all but tells only what it wants you to hear.

    • B-Rob

      I cannot find out anything about this but Obama and Wright are both proponents of this.

      Got any link to anything supporting your statement that Obama is a proponant of that?

      Sometimes Fox uses the phrase but they do not go into it any further.

      Did you ever ask yourself whether, like “partial birth abortion” or “the death tax” it is not just something a wingnut made up? Sad to see a Dem repeating wingnut talking points, but despertate times yields desperate measure, I guess!

      • R-Bob

        Got any link to anything supporting your statement that Obama is a proponant of that?

        Yeah I got a link right here. Want me to roll it up and store it somewhere on your person so you don’t lose it again? Or should I just hand it over to your dear sweet (and by your nasty behaviour so grievously hurt) mother so she can read the article for you later?

        • workingclass artist

          Obama is a member of a church that is indoctrinated in Black Liberation Theology. Wright preaches BLACK LIBERATION THEOLOGY.

    • workingclass artist

      S. Hall…..You can find a lot of info on Liberation Theology at the Vatican Website or The Catholc Encyclopedia…..Black Liberation theology (nutshell)
      Is Liberation Theology coupled with the philosophy of Black Separatism.
      Liberation Theology was the driving force that swept through Latin America in the 1970′s and 1980′s….CONTRA ANYONE ?…..
      Liberation Theology changes both the identity of Jesus and his mission, but
      aside from no recognition of denominatioal doctrinal authority…It redefines an activist and militant role for the christian soldier. It supports a marxist socio/economic solution and promotes class warfare all in the name of a new MILITANT CHRIST….
      Black Liberation Theology is Black Separatism wrapped in the BABY-JESUS.
      This is why there can be a comfy relationship between ordinarily separate groups….Wrights’ church….Nation of Islam…New Black Panthers….Even the Weather Underground leaders as they are militant anarchists…..

  • sonia

    she picked up 5 superds today!
    Clinton nabs four New York supers — Attorney General Cuomo, Comptroller DiNapoli, former Manhattan Borough President C. Virginia Fields and Assemblywoman Carmen Arroyo — after state elects its add-ons.
    She is also expected to get Connecticut AFL-CIO President John Olsen.
    is this true???/i read it somewhere

    • beebop

      The guy this morning may have done her a TREMENDOUS favor. Obamanation may have overplayed their hand.

      This could be GREAT!

  • B-Rob

    Hey Jeff —

    Since a Hill-billy stole my moniker, I will have to probably find a new one. I am thinking:

    Bosnian Sniper Squad

    Chelsea’s Real Father

    Monica’s Kneepads

    Hillary’s Wife

    Bill’s Crooked Wanger

    Which one do you like the best?

    • beebop

      How about 2muchcalice?

    • Jeff

      This is tough:

      But being that you’ll be doing a lot of Clinton-criticism, I think Bosnian Sniper Squad is best. Ready, aim, fire!

      • B-Rob

        But being that you’ll be doing a lot of Clinton-criticism

        I live in Ohio. Why would I be criticising the junior Senator from New York any more than the junior Senator from Indiana? I don’t get it . . .

        Oh, I forgot! You people still think Hillary can alienate the Black voter base of the Dems, get the nomination even though she is trailing in delegates, popular vote, states won, and money raised, AND have a negative rating close to that of Nuri al Maliki . . . but STILL can get elected president! I forgot I was dealing with Hill-bot dead enders, Perpetrator Jeff!

        • R-Bob

          I live in Ohio

          Somehow we all figured you did. So tell us: how does it feel when your fellow Ohioans gave Barry back his half sausage on his NAFTA platter? It must have shattered your wee heart, right?

          Do you have any other interests? Football? Baseball? Street warfare? Is there anything else you could do?

          Do you have any contact with your parents or relatives any longer? Sometimes it’s necessary to have proper support when you’re trying to kick bad habits like those you suffer from.

          And it’s only going to get worse and you know it. Your Barry is going to be humiliated no matter what happens. And when you get older and become sexually active your partners are going to ask what you do and have done for a living.

          And if you’re honest you’re going to have to tell them I was a whore for David Axelrod – it was my job to try to sow dissent.

          And then they’ll ask you how much you got paid.

          • B-Rob

            Thorazine, in large doses, might do you some good.

            In politics, as in sports, you can’t win them all. Just ask the New England Patriots. What you try to do is win enough at the right time to win the big enchilada.

            You know the real problem with Hillary, don’t you? Her poor strategic planning led to tactical and philosophical errors that doomed her BEFORE Super Tuesday. Specifically, she operated from the erroneous assumption that this was a coronation, not a competition. She assumed that it would be over by Supoer Tuesday, so like Bush with Iraq, she made no plans for “what if” things did not go the way she assumed. She also adopted a flawed “only big states” approach. Why? She assumed that “flyover country” would not matter after early February.

            So how did this play out? Obama won “minority dominated” Iowa, South Carolina (“just like Jesse Jackson”), and won Nevada (more delegates). Uh, oh . . . that was not supposed to happen! She and Obama then split Super Tuesday. He then won 14 of the next 16 states, some by overwhelming margins only explained by Hillary supporters simply not showing up. Why? Because there was no ground crew set up to TELL THEM what they needed to do to register support for her. This was fatal; because those 4 to 1 delegate margins in the states you claim don’t count now provide Obama’s insurmountable delegate lead.

            In a nutshell, Ohio shows why Hillary is NOT the best candidate. The demographics were overwhelmingly in her favor and she only won by . . . what, nine points? And you will recall that the same day Obama lost Ohio, he won in Vermont, lost in RI, and basically tied in Texas . . . with that tie turning into a win when the caucuses occurred . . . the same caucuses Hillary’s people admitted they did not prepare for or understand.

            THIS is what “30 years of experience” gets you? An inability to manage money or structure a 50 state campaign strategy? With incompetence like that, we would be looking at four more years of incompetent government following the Bush debacle . . . and don’t think people aren’t considering that, too!

    • BUNTY

      B – WHATEVER ,you share have been fucked by your father several times ,i know ur ass is sore and u have been drinking KOOL-AID and you know it comes from obama’s dick ,yu have his cum all over yr face and so many times Obama has pissed in your mouth,u re such a pain!!!

  • deke

    Obama’s campaign is doing wonders for the economy. They hire all this unemployed high school dropouts to come here and troll. I hope they don’t spend that $1.50 per hour there making (current rate Obama is paying their children’s nanny) at McDonald’s. There won’t be anything left to buy porn.

    • beebop

      He threw money away in Pennsylvania and it got him another goose egg. Money means nothing to Obama.

      • R-Bob

        Money means nothing to Obama.

        B-Rob doesn’t mean anything to him either. The One doesn’t even know B-Rob exists. And he could bloody care less too.

        If someone someday tells Barry ‘hey there was this jerk hanging out at Larry’s just trying to piss people off – should we pay him’ what do you think Barry will say?

        • beebop

          “Fat fucking lot of good B-Rob and the other assholes did me,” said Obama as he saw the results come in from North Carolina! “I want my money back!”

        • Jeff

          “The One doesn’t even know B-Rob exists. And he could bloody care less too.”

          Right, and Hillary’s got your picture tucked away in her purse…

          • bwana

            hrc doesn’t carry a purse. that’s the job for one of her well-paid syncophants. you know, the ones who pump her gas, do her grocery shopping, work the vending machines…

            • workingclass artist

              Ehemmm…..Bwaaaaaaana……Caput tuuam in ano est ! Now waddle back to GAZA…….

  • http://lkcampbell.blogspot.com Lucinda

    I’m a North Carolina volunteer for Hillary, and I’m encouraged by the amount of support I find for her (although some people whisper it to me, because they don’t want to endure the wrath of Obama supporters). My sister made phone calls the other night, and they were going 2-1 for Hillary. Strap yourselves in, Tuesday is going to be a wild night.

    • R-Bob

      they don’t want to endure the wrath of Obama supporters

      Exactly. From hooliganism to political activism. Stalin worked that way too.

      • stodghie

        i am dusting you off my should bob and now cleaning all the shxx off my shoes. i am fixing the hair on my head. gee what was that sign my fingers just made. all for you bob.

    • Amanda

      God bless you and your sister, Lucinda :) .

    • workingclass artist

      Lucinda….Is there some voter suppression usng illegal ROBO CALLS aimed at AA women being investigated by the NC AG’s office….
      Heard it on NPR All Things Consdered….Group seems to be working for Obama ?

  • nightmares

    chelsea secured another super-delegate in puerto rico for her mom…..i wonder if she saw the media coverage of larry sinclair vs obama. you know, jeff and rbob, that drug deal and homosexual affair that obama had in 1999……maybe you two are funny that way too, huh ?

  • Gary

    To all rational minds, it should not come as a surprise that Senator Obama decision to break from Rev. Wright was political expedience. This charismatic Senator has tried to exculpate himself from blame for all his questionable relationships. In fact, Obama’s disingenuous rhetoric has not “transcended racial politics” but inflammed it.

  • http://paganpower.wordpress.com/ Pagan Power

    Great videos!

    I agree with the last thing Governor Mike Easley said: She’ll be a great president.

    And I believe that sincerely with every fiber of my being. She is an inspiration to anyone that has fought against impossible odds for something they know is right. She is my hero.

    • http://myspace.com/loyaldissent Garlic-Nosed Guitarist

      And I believe that sincerely with every fiber of my being. She is an inspiration to anyone that has fought against impossible odds for something they know is right. She is my hero.

      I agree 10000000%! She will be invincible against McCain since she has shown us her metal by fending off a devil with huge cash reserves — and we all know where that cash has come from, the same people and groups Hillary will reign in. And she is one of my heroes, on the level of Earth’s other great leaders — the ones asshole Obama’s propaganda machine wanted us to believe he was molded from. Hill is the real deal! Obama can shove his fake “historic speech” — I’d rather have a real leader who is empathic and wise, than an evil chameleon using the coattails of MLK and KJF under wholly false pretenses.

      • http://myspace.com/loyaldissent Garlic-Nosed Guitarist

        Oops, “JFK” of course.

      • B-Rob

        Hillary has no chance to be president for three reasons:

        1) Black people can’t stand her guts! Without the same turnout and percentages as Kerry got, she simply cannot win. And whether you White Hill-bots care or not, between BC’s “Jesse Jackson” comment and Gerry Ferraro, Hillary’s crew has alienated Black voters and they will not be carrying her water in November. Just check out theroot.com or jackandjillpolitics.com if you don’t believe me!

        2) Hillary cannot get the male vote. Sure she does fine with White women, but White males have been generally even or pro-Obama. And that is EXCLUDING the White males who will not vote for a Black person. You think those same guys are so gender enlightened that they will chose her over McCain? Of so, I have swamp land in New Mexico you might want to buy!

        3) Independents hate her and so do cons. What does this mean? It means the con base will be energized against her . . . they just can’t get jazzed up for Obama. Indies will break McCain because, let’s face it, he is not a conservative.

        Nope, if the Dems want to win this time, there is only one candidate who can get it done; and it ain’t the Warrior Queen of Tuzlah!

        • deke

          I guess you didn’t see the results of the PA primary. You’re doing a bad job of making up numbers.
          Besides women represent 54% of the voting population AA represent 12%. You do the math which group has more power.

          • B-Rob

            Some of those 54% females ARE African American . . . duh! Furthermore, if you are telling me that Hillary can win enough NEW white females (i.e., stealing former Bush women or attracting new voters) to outweigh the loss of Black voters, then that is an interesting argument. I just haven’t seen any data showing that any NEW voters are registering because of Hillary, nonetheless that they will show up in sufficient numbers to balance the peel off of Black voters. The new registrants are Obama people by and large. In addition, if Hillary is the nominee,expect some of those Black votes to go to McCain, which is a DOUBLE WHAMMY, cutting Dem numbers while simultaneously increasing GOPer numbers.

            • workingclass artist

              Ehemmm….Brob….Si me rogas, potes abire et tu ipse cacare !

            • Mary

              Shoulda read the PA poll data.

              40% of the crossover Republican vote was Republican FEMALES voting for Hillary Clinton.

              Helped her kick Obama’s butt, didn’t they?

  • Annagain

    That’s a great ad — Thank you, Governor Easley!!

    Straightforward, down to earth, charismatic, positive, sticks to the issues. Perfect.

  • Mary

    I’m finding it interesting that we’re hearing reports of Obama supporters harrassing Hillary supporters. I would expect that kind of behavior from Hillary supporters since we’re the ones who are supposedly the typical racists.

    I am praying that this really can happen for Hillary, for Us, for our Country. Why the Democratic party still wants to push him through is just so confusing to me.

    • B-Rob

      I’m finding it interesting that we’re hearing reports of Obama supporters harrassing Hillary supporters.

      Sure you do! And they jumped out of black helicopters to do it, didn’t they!

      Funny . . . another wingnut talking point! Usually they are talking about “union goons” or “inner city people” stalking conservatives, beating up their kids, and rigging elections.

      You know what? That is the one thing you folks haven’t claimed yet: that dead people, Black people in the inner cities and illegal aliens are voting illegally for for Obama. So if you go over to freerepublic.com and do a search ,you can get all the “Obama voter fraud” talking points you need!

      • Strawberrybitch

        Dude, you costing Obama votes by being here and picking on people. I do find it interesting that you go after more women than men though. Just check back over all your comments. PS some Obamatron did try to harass me at my caucus, he almost got his rich, white collegs age ass beat…my husband had to pull me off him.

        • B-Rob

          If I “pick on” more women than men (which I doubt is the case) it may be because (a) there are more women here or (b) the women here say more dumb things than the men. I tend to think it is the former not the latter, because the Hill-bot men are as dumb as a box of rocks. There are certain people who are particulr targets of my ire, like garlic nose, pm316, beebop, etc. I have no idea what there gender is; I only know they are not very smart.

          But, again, what difference does it matter what their gender is? If you are going to be involved in politics the “you should not hit a girl” rules goes out the window. It is a sign of weakness and insecurity.

          Finally, on the entire “Obama supporters threatened old ladies” propaganda, I will note a few things (1) no one explains the situations in how they JUST HAPPEN to be accosted; (2) for all the supposed “threatening”, I have yet to see anyone actually file a report over any supposed voting harassment. You would think that, given the stakes in Texas, for

          • deke

            You are a true mensa. Your intellect on the issues is breath taking. Have you formulated these ideas all by your little self?
            I think mommy is calling you.

            • Mary

              b) the women here say more dumb things than the men. I tend to think it is the former not the latter, because the Hill-bot men are as dumb as a box of rocks.

              Nothing but class.

  • B-Rob

    Interesting post:

    “Red State Superdelegate Math”

    http://tpmcafe.talkingpointsmemo.com/talk/2008/05/red-state-superdelegate-math.php

    key graphs:

    “And here’s the kicker. It’s quite likely that a generic Red State Democrat will draw more votes with Obama at the top of the ticket even if Hillary would have performed better against McCain. Let me repeat that, because it’s such a vital point in understanding the present dynamic of the race. A Red State Dem is likely to get virtually the same number of votes from the Democratic base, irrespective of who tops the ticket (that is, even if some of those voters defect to McCain). But with Obama, they’re likely to see depressed turnout among conservatives and huge numbers of new voters flocking to the polls. With Clinton, they get to rerun the last two presidential cycles, with a highly polarized electorate motivated on both sides.”

    “That, more than anything else, explains the riddle. Red State Democrats view politics through a profoundly local lens. They’re supporting Obama because they’ll do better if he’s at the top of the ticket, even if Obama himself fares worse than Clinton would in their state or district.”

  • Silver

    I watched the video of the Fort Bragg soldier promoting Hillary, and I have to admit, it really got to me. You know why?? Because people like this speak from their heart—not from a prepared script of fake sound bites. Videos like this remind me of what this election is really about—people who truly care about this country. It’s not about the rich political consultants, pundits, or politicians who would switch their allegiance in a heartbeat if it meant they could up their ratings or pad their pockets.

  • http://www.madinthemiddle.blogspot.com churl

    Strawberrybitch — are you a refugee from Crooks and Liars? (I’ve seen the name over there when I used to comment before the threads became O’contaminated.

    Gee. Didn’t know I was dumb as a box of rocks. Guess I could try to prove my intelligence to a troll but I think I’ll just go hit my thumb with a hammer.

    btw, observe the soldier and note her demographic particulars.

  • Linda C.

    The SD’s for Obama have been duds. Bob Casey did not deliver the blue collar vote in PA. Bill Richards has not gotten any Latino votes. Who is paying attention to Ted Kennedy and Kerry when their state went for Hillary.

    Senator Clinton has Ed Rendell, Ted Strickland, Evan Bayh, Gov. Easley. These people deliver votes.

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  • http://hyper-educated-uppity-woman.blogspot.com Uppity

    Soldier 4 Hillary, I just love your video!

  • Mawm

    Interesting to see that quote about the sign wars. I live in Chapel Hill NC and gave a sign to my neighbor who lives on the main road. It wasn’t there two days before someone stole it. I’ve heard these stories from other supporters too. I hope someone is going to look into it.

  • Annie

    To change the subject I wonder if any of you know exactly how old Obama really is and was he born in Hawaii or could it be he really was born around that time of year when the Selma March happened and he was born …… in Kenya? He doesn’t look like 50 he looks more like 40ish.

    Just a thought. There doesn’t seem to be any actualy registration of his birth in Hawaii or his Mother’s marriage in Hawaii – though as his Father was already married with a wife in Kenya I guess that would make sense.

  • bob h

    Don’t leave out that Obama donated $20k to Wright’s church, as well.

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