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		<title>By: another acorn drops : NO QUARTER</title>
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		<dc:creator>another acorn drops : NO QUARTER</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 May 2009 12:45:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] You can see my original open thread here. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] You can see my original open thread here. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: How Barney Frank Is Spending Your Hard Earned Tax Dollars&#8230; : NO QUARTER</title>
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		<dc:creator>How Barney Frank Is Spending Your Hard Earned Tax Dollars&#8230; : NO QUARTER</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 May 2009 02:36:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] to give them now. You may want to lie down for this one. Ready? Barney Frank wants to give ACORN, currently under FEDERAL investigation in Nevada, as well as being investigated in a number of states across the country (including SC), $8.5 [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] to give them now. You may want to lie down for this one. Ready? Barney Frank wants to give ACORN, currently under FEDERAL investigation in Nevada, as well as being investigated in a number of states across the country (including SC), $8.5 [...]</p>
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		<title>By: TeakwoodKite</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/23705/new-charges-against-fraudulent-acorn-open-thread/#comment-1202285</link>
		<dc:creator>TeakwoodKite</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 May 2009 08:02:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;If you care at all about democratic ideals than Glenn Beck is your enemy.&lt;/em&gt;

He a fellow American, asshole. I do NOT have to like him or agree with him but he is not the enemy you silly mouse! You would not know a piece of cheese if it was what you are sitting.

&lt;em&gt;ACORN is doing nothing but trying to help poor people who get taken advantage of every day in this country&lt;/em&gt;

Ya poor BO. and poor little ACORN.
GAG ME! ACORN is a criminal enterprise and should be brought up on RICO charges.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>If you care at all about democratic ideals than Glenn Beck is your enemy.</em></p>
<p>He a fellow American, asshole. I do NOT have to like him or agree with him but he is not the enemy you silly mouse! You would not know a piece of cheese if it was what you are sitting.</p>
<p><em>ACORN is doing nothing but trying to help poor people who get taken advantage of every day in this country</em></p>
<p>Ya poor BO. and poor little ACORN.<br />
GAG ME! ACORN is a criminal enterprise and should be brought up on RICO charges.</p>
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		<title>By: A-Nony-Mouse</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/23705/new-charges-against-fraudulent-acorn-open-thread/#comment-1202277</link>
		<dc:creator>A-Nony-Mouse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 May 2009 07:26:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It might as well be because you are fighting for the other side. If you care at all about democratic ideals than Glenn Beck is your enemy. ACORN is doing nothing but trying to help poor people who get taken advantage of every day in this country. They do a lot of positive work in poor communities. And yes they register poor people to vote (who usually vote for Democrats if they bother to vote) ... Yes some of their workers wanted to get paid for not doing their job. Just like some Wal-Mart employees want to get paid for slacking off or stealing stuff or helping their friends steal stuff. The idea that an employer is responsible for everything an employee does, especially when its not what the employer would want (obviously ACORN wants *real* people registered as fake people do not vote.)

It&#039;s just exhausting stating the same fact that just trumps everything else over and over again with people just not getting it: There is absolutely no evidence of any real election fraud (ie fake votes being cast) due to ACORN. That means this is a BS story that is being fluffed up by the right wingers to try and hurt Obama&#039;s popularity so that we (Americans) can&#039;t get universal health care and a more fair government. 

No, Obama is nowhere near perfect. He&#039;s a corporate politician - but he&#039;s way better than any Republican.

And maybe he will lead the way to a real liberal being elected next time (like Dennis Kucinich.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It might as well be because you are fighting for the other side. If you care at all about democratic ideals than Glenn Beck is your enemy. ACORN is doing nothing but trying to help poor people who get taken advantage of every day in this country. They do a lot of positive work in poor communities. And yes they register poor people to vote (who usually vote for Democrats if they bother to vote) &#8230; Yes some of their workers wanted to get paid for not doing their job. Just like some Wal-Mart employees want to get paid for slacking off or stealing stuff or helping their friends steal stuff. The idea that an employer is responsible for everything an employee does, especially when its not what the employer would want (obviously ACORN wants *real* people registered as fake people do not vote.)</p>
<p>It&#8217;s just exhausting stating the same fact that just trumps everything else over and over again with people just not getting it: There is absolutely no evidence of any real election fraud (ie fake votes being cast) due to ACORN. That means this is a BS story that is being fluffed up by the right wingers to try and hurt Obama&#8217;s popularity so that we (Americans) can&#8217;t get universal health care and a more fair government. </p>
<p>No, Obama is nowhere near perfect. He&#8217;s a corporate politician &#8211; but he&#8217;s way better than any Republican.</p>
<p>And maybe he will lead the way to a real liberal being elected next time (like Dennis Kucinich.)</p>
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		<title>By: A-Nony-Mouse</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/23705/new-charges-against-fraudulent-acorn-open-thread/#comment-1202275</link>
		<dc:creator>A-Nony-Mouse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 May 2009 07:17:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve noticed quite a few people here saying pro-Glenn Beck statements (btw I just watched his interview with the ACORN guy and I thought it was absolutely ridiculous - Beck&#039;s argument was entirely illogical and he was also extremely rude to his guest.) 

Anyway since I know most of the people here supported Hillary Clinton for President I thought they may want to know what Glenn Beck thinks about Hillary. Watch this video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NSE8OwaJgeg</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve noticed quite a few people here saying pro-Glenn Beck statements (btw I just watched his interview with the ACORN guy and I thought it was absolutely ridiculous &#8211; Beck&#8217;s argument was entirely illogical and he was also extremely rude to his guest.) </p>
<p>Anyway since I know most of the people here supported Hillary Clinton for President I thought they may want to know what Glenn Beck thinks about Hillary. Watch this video:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NSE8OwaJgeg" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NSE8OwaJgeg</a></p>
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		<title>By: TeakwoodKite</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/23705/new-charges-against-fraudulent-acorn-open-thread/#comment-1202253</link>
		<dc:creator>TeakwoodKite</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 May 2009 05:45:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>you people. .....Obot droppings, JustMe, their cave is near.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>you people. &#8230;..Obot droppings, JustMe, their cave is near.</p>
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		<title>By: Betsy Buzz Ross Latte</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/23705/new-charges-against-fraudulent-acorn-open-thread/#comment-1202245</link>
		<dc:creator>Betsy Buzz Ross Latte</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 May 2009 05:14:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>*&quot;being a jerk and an assho*le is not witty or smart or professional.&quot;*


Were you looking in the mirror when you typed that?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>*&#8221;being a jerk and an assho*le is not witty or smart or professional.&#8221;*</p>
<p>Were you looking in the mirror when you typed that?</p>
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		<title>By: Martial</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/23705/new-charges-against-fraudulent-acorn-open-thread/#comment-1202244</link>
		<dc:creator>Martial</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 May 2009 05:08:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh please Babs, Fox news misrepresents their garbage as news just as CNN does, in fact Fox news started the trend.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh please Babs, Fox news misrepresents their garbage as news just as CNN does, in fact Fox news started the trend.</p>
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		<title>By: Martial</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/23705/new-charges-against-fraudulent-acorn-open-thread/#comment-1202241</link>
		<dc:creator>Martial</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 May 2009 05:05:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Please stop calling Glenn Witty, being a jerk and an assho*le is not witty or smart or professional. Anyone of you morons here at NQ could have done what he did, he isn&#039;t doing anything special.

If he had behaved in a professional manner I would give him credit but he did not.

To think that some of you lavish him all this unworthy praises says a lot about your intelligence or should I say lack of intelligence.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Please stop calling Glenn Witty, being a jerk and an assho*le is not witty or smart or professional. Anyone of you morons here at NQ could have done what he did, he isn&#8217;t doing anything special.</p>
<p>If he had behaved in a professional manner I would give him credit but he did not.</p>
<p>To think that some of you lavish him all this unworthy praises says a lot about your intelligence or should I say lack of intelligence.</p>
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		<title>By: Babs</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/23705/new-charges-against-fraudulent-acorn-open-thread/#comment-1202231</link>
		<dc:creator>Babs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 May 2009 04:51:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Martial, you obviously didn&#039;t get the latest memo, the race card has been dealt too many times now, no one is paying attention. Also, Glenn Beck is not a journalist, has never represented himself as one. CNN misrepresents their garbage as news, that&#039;s the difference.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Martial, you obviously didn&#8217;t get the latest memo, the race card has been dealt too many times now, no one is paying attention. Also, Glenn Beck is not a journalist, has never represented himself as one. CNN misrepresents their garbage as news, that&#8217;s the difference.</p>
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		<title>By: JustMe~~</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/23705/new-charges-against-fraudulent-acorn-open-thread/#comment-1202230</link>
		<dc:creator>JustMe~~</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 May 2009 04:51:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well you have a choice Martial go to 0&#039;s site and talk to your hearts content... We will not be there telling you what to write etc it&#039;s easy simply hit the road.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well you have a choice Martial go to 0&#8242;s site and talk to your hearts content&#8230; We will not be there telling you what to write etc it&#8217;s easy simply hit the road.</p>
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		<title>By: FranSC</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/23705/new-charges-against-fraudulent-acorn-open-thread/#comment-1202227</link>
		<dc:creator>FranSC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 May 2009 04:45:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Given the number of &quot;Mickey Mouse&quot; type registrations, I would bet the ranch those registrants were somehow used by this group.  All the elections board people are not necessarily those referred to earlier as faithful volunteers who will stay up all night to work out a problem.  

I saw an HBO documentary a couple of years ago about how it is possible for the voting machines to be manipulated to reflect a different total or result than the actual voting results by people that know what they are doing.  

I voted in one of the red turned blue states.  Given the composition of the workers and supervisors at my elections board, there was  no doubt the majority were 0 supporters.  Consequently I remain highly suspicious that states elections results were likely doctored.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Given the number of &#8220;Mickey Mouse&#8221; type registrations, I would bet the ranch those registrants were somehow used by this group.  All the elections board people are not necessarily those referred to earlier as faithful volunteers who will stay up all night to work out a problem.  </p>
<p>I saw an HBO documentary a couple of years ago about how it is possible for the voting machines to be manipulated to reflect a different total or result than the actual voting results by people that know what they are doing.  </p>
<p>I voted in one of the red turned blue states.  Given the composition of the workers and supervisors at my elections board, there was  no doubt the majority were 0 supporters.  Consequently I remain highly suspicious that states elections results were likely doctored.</p>
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		<title>By: FranSC</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/23705/new-charges-against-fraudulent-acorn-open-thread/#comment-1202187</link>
		<dc:creator>FranSC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 May 2009 03:44:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Acorn may have played a role in the caucus fraud, but the Texas Democratic Party Chairman said on one of the YouTube videos that the democratic party had been taken over by young white males.  They probably were the MoveOn.org thugs who did the caucus fraud building online.

In addition, that video pointed out that over 2000 complaints were filed with the *DNC* about all the caucus problems.  And the most egregious thing of all in Texas was the fact Hillary won the legally run, strict and stringent primary by a good margin, but 0zero won the caucuses by 12-17 points!!  As Dr. Long said - &quot;a mathmatical impossibility&quot; since one (the primary or caucus) should have reflected the other, percentage-wise.
0zero pocketed 9 MORE delegates in Texas than Hillary.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Acorn may have played a role in the caucus fraud, but the Texas Democratic Party Chairman said on one of the YouTube videos that the democratic party had been taken over by young white males.  They probably were the MoveOn.org thugs who did the caucus fraud building online.</p>
<p>In addition, that video pointed out that over 2000 complaints were filed with the *DNC* about all the caucus problems.  And the most egregious thing of all in Texas was the fact Hillary won the legally run, strict and stringent primary by a good margin, but 0zero won the caucuses by 12-17 points!!  As Dr. Long said &#8211; &#8220;a mathmatical impossibility&#8221; since one (the primary or caucus) should have reflected the other, percentage-wise.<br />
0zero pocketed 9 MORE delegates in Texas than Hillary.</p>
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		<title>By: Regina</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/23705/new-charges-against-fraudulent-acorn-open-thread/#comment-1202126</link>
		<dc:creator>Regina</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 May 2009 01:47:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ACORN is Obama&#039;s domestic tool.  Don&#039;t be stupid. They are corrupt and the center of the radical revolution....Saul Alinsky wrote about it in his book, rules for radicals. This is Obama&#039;s bible.  ACORN needs to be dismantled.  In the past election, my vote, because of ACORNS manipulation of votes, was worth one tenth.....If they are not stopped, my vote will have a value of one hundredth in the 2010 election.  They are a dangerous threat to our democracy.  Americans need to wake up and realize they are a threat to our liberties.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ACORN is Obama&#8217;s domestic tool.  Don&#8217;t be stupid. They are corrupt and the center of the radical revolution&#8230;.Saul Alinsky wrote about it in his book, rules for radicals. This is Obama&#8217;s bible.  ACORN needs to be dismantled.  In the past election, my vote, because of ACORNS manipulation of votes, was worth one tenth&#8230;..If they are not stopped, my vote will have a value of one hundredth in the 2010 election.  They are a dangerous threat to our democracy.  Americans need to wake up and realize they are a threat to our liberties.</p>
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		<title>By: Woman Voter</title>
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		<dc:creator>Woman Voter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 May 2009 23:17:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Threat Level Privacy, Crime and Security Online
Teenage Bomb Threat Suspect Was Internet Prank-Call Star

    * By Kevin Poulsen Email Author
    * May 7, 2009  &#124; 
  
A 16-year-old North Carolina boy arrested for allegedly making a bomb threat against Purdue University had a secret identity as a superstar in an unusual online subculture — one dedicated to making prank phone calls for a live internet audience, his mother admitted Thursday.

“I heard the prank phone calls he made,” says Annette Lundeby of Oxford. “They were really funny prank phone calls…. He made phone calls to, like, Walmart.”  
...
“People would pay about five dollars, and they get to submit a number,” says Jason Bennett, a 19-year-old college student in Syndey, Australia. “It was getting way out of hand.”
&lt;/blockquote&gt;
http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2009/05/teenage-bomb-threat-suspect-was-an-internet-prank-phone-call-star/

It turns out we were duped, the kid is a social menace and needs to be held because his mom wasn&#039;t helping to bring reality to him &#039;Don&#039;t threaten people&#039; and he even made international threats.   

I don&#039;t like that the mom didn&#039;t admit to knowing and was using our good faith and good will in caring about his welfare.  He needs tough love, and time out. 

Thank you wired.com for researching the story and doing some thorough investigating.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Threat Level Privacy, Crime and Security Online<br />
Teenage Bomb Threat Suspect Was Internet Prank-Call Star</p>
<p>    * By Kevin Poulsen Email Author<br />
    * May 7, 2009  | </p>
<p>A 16-year-old North Carolina boy arrested for allegedly making a bomb threat against Purdue University had a secret identity as a superstar in an unusual online subculture — one dedicated to making prank phone calls for a live internet audience, his mother admitted Thursday.</p>
<p>“I heard the prank phone calls he made,” says Annette Lundeby of Oxford. “They were really funny prank phone calls…. He made phone calls to, like, Walmart.”<br />
&#8230;<br />
“People would pay about five dollars, and they get to submit a number,” says Jason Bennett, a 19-year-old college student in Syndey, Australia. “It was getting way out of hand.”
</p></blockquote>
<p><a href="http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2009/05/teenage-bomb-threat-suspect-was-an-internet-prank-phone-call-star/" rel="nofollow">http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2009/05/teenage-bomb-threat-suspect-was-an-internet-prank-phone-call-star/</a></p>
<p>It turns out we were duped, the kid is a social menace and needs to be held because his mom wasn&#8217;t helping to bring reality to him &#8216;Don&#8217;t threaten people&#8217; and he even made international threats.   </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t like that the mom didn&#8217;t admit to knowing and was using our good faith and good will in caring about his welfare.  He needs tough love, and time out. </p>
<p>Thank you wired.com for researching the story and doing some thorough investigating.</p>
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