What Say You, Elizabeth Edwards?

Well….

His healthcare plan was more like Hillary’s than O’s (of course it was hard to say what O’s was). And I believe that a large percentage of the people who supported him would have been more likely to support Hillary than O.

I was angry at Edwards during the campaign, especially during that debate in which he an O acted so smarmy against Hillary. It was like two middle school boys ganging up on the smart girl.

Then when the news about the affair broke, I lost all respect for him. I didn’t realize until just now that Elizabeth knew this BEFORE the primary. I think only an idiot would have gone forward with this after hearing that news from her husband. She HAD to know the news would come out–it does for all politicians expect our amazing POTUS. (Pat Schroeder called Reagan the teflon president–Reagan’s non-sticky surface is nothing compared to O’s.)

But I digress–she put herself forward and became just as much a hypocrite as her husband. I am sorry for her illness, but in those circumstances, I would have opted for privacy. She helped steal the nomination from HIllary; that is unforgiveable as far as I am concerned.

I am one of those idiots who contributed to his campaign…what a sucker. I feel no sympathy for Elizabeth and the story that somehow this woman just chased after him and what could he do is laughable coming from someone who is supposed to have a brain. Why she remains married to this slime ball is beyond me. By the way, here in NC, we have a local talk show called Take a Stand. http://takeastandshow.com/main.html

The guy on there has been talking about Edwards since he ran for Senator and apparently way back then he was using his campaign money for questionable things. There is a reason the guy could not even carry NC; he is a known slimeball here.

I see a typical relationship with the attractive John and the smart woman who has low self-esteem because she doesn’t think she is attractive hanging on to him; like this is the first time he has cheated on her; give me a break. But to have a baby with this woman is despicable…how can Elizabeth live with herself?

Well, thanks for the opportunity to rant.

That Maureen Dowd might consider doing journalism now is too little too late for me, so she gets no credit for this.

I am not sure that I agree with tek that Edwards’ campaign was a set up all along. I do believe that he was serious–he also struck me as a real egotist.

As for Elizabeth, I truly felt sorry for her after the news broke and caused Edwards to leave the race. Now that I know she knew before starting out, I do not believe I can forgive her for agreeing to go ahead.

Edwards’ healthcare plan and voter base was more similar to Hillary’s. I guess I keep holding on to my belief that American democracy would have played out better and Hillary would have had enough to overcome all of O’s machinations and cheating without Edwards in the race.

When Edwards and O ganged up on Hillary in one of the debates, I was just plain sick. I wanted to send them both to time out. It was like two rowdy middle school boys ganging up on the good, smart girl.

I think the affair was no one’s business but the Edwards’. There is, of course, the problem that Americans want a president’s family to represent them on the world stage, and the First Lady plays an important role. So, when the affair became public and the Edwards announced they were standing by each other, this should have ceased to be an issue. Elizabeth Edwards’ health was the more serious problem here, and the distraction it would have caused her husband could have hurt both of them, and with the double whammie of both the affair and the cancer, I think he was wrong to run with so much of his personal life in disarray.

I don’t think that making stellar personal life decisions is the main criteria one should look for in a president. The candidate should be judged on the integrity they display with public monies and policies, and the intelligence and talent they show to take the country in the direction they campaigned for. It seems to me that many leaders who consider their private lives to be righteous also think that they are operating on the side of the angels, and they believe that any action they take can be justified because of the purity of their purpose.

If a candidate made his/her private life into a campaign issue, and promised to legislate morality, then it would behoove the media to discover how said candidate and supporters were proposing legislation they themselves wouldn’t live up to.

The most unfortunate thing about John Edwards’ candidacy, in my opinion, is that his supporters loved him because of his ‘boyish charm’ and his dragon-slayer speeches where he promised to do battle with big business. But the charm faded fast, and his political plans were, well, naive to the point of stupidity.

Both Edwards and Obama together could never measure up to Hillary Clinton. But American’s chose fluff and glitz over hard work and knowledge. They chose hope over experience. They chose pie in the sky over clear direction.

The Obama ‘gang’ is still busy campaigning and Obama is posing as the Great Leader of a transparent and progressive government. Meanwhile he and his gang have reinforced every secrecy provision and skulduggery of the Bush administration; the only ‘secrets’ they have released are those they think will hurt their political enemies; and they have shovelled billions of dollars to their political supporters in the name of fiscal stimulus and bailouts.

I’m sorry for Elizabeth, I try to give her the benefit of doubt. But,as a mother, she first, should have be thinking about her adult daughter. The twins, vere to young to understand,yet,the situation. Why, she embarrassed her daughter, I just can’t understand. For her, the children should be the most important, not the cheating husband.I really feel sorry for the daughter and his parents. He betray everybody who trusted him.

I do not hold Elizabeth responsible for the actions or behavior of her husband. He’s a full grown man. Nor am I going to judge her for staying in her marriage. I am not in her shoes. She has incurable cancer AND children still at home.

Now John Edwards -POS- that’s a different story. Look how many victims are in his wake- Elizabeth, his children (all of them including the new baby), his financial donors, his supporters, the entire Democratic primary process, and his issues of universal healthcare and poverty prevention. He is now USELESS on those two important causes. Way to go John, all because you couldn’t keep your di@k in your pants.

FWIW, any discussion of the context of Elizabeth’s decision to support her husband’s bid for office should take into account both her health (not good) and her small children.

Sure, she could have forced him out. But between her health and probable worry for the future of her younger children, I’m guessing she decided not to pull the trigger but thought it would come about anyway. I don’t see how JE thought he’d keep this quiet.

Really, the stuff about John E was going to come out, whether or not Elizabeth was the one to tell. I just think, outcomes notwithstanding, telling a terminally ill woman concerned with her elementary children and end-of-life issues that she should also have taken responsibility for exposing her husband’s lies is just a little much.

Especially from someone as character challenged as MoDo.

HMMM I guess Hunter thinks IF Elizabath can write a book and go on Oprah (with John,) She doesn’t have to keep quiet either http://www.nationalenquirer.com/john_edwards_mistress_rielle_hunter_dna_test_love_child/celebrity/66637
John Edwards’ furious mistress is demanding he submit to a DNA test, The ENQUIRER has learned exclusively!

Rielle Hunter – the longtime secret lover of the disgraced 2-time presidential candidate – wants definitive proof that Edwards is the father of her 14-month-old love child Frances and is working with a lawyer to take legal action, say sources.

The blonde divorcee – who gave birth in February 2008 – was slammed in the explosive new book Resilience written by the ex-senator’s cancer-stricken wife Elizabeth…….

….”Rielle – probably naively – now realizes she had held onto a false promise that if she continued to take part in the cover-up John had engineered, they’d be together in the future,” a close source told The ENQUIRER.

“She was willing to protect John for the sake of the child. She agreed to allow a crony of his to claim he was the baby’s father, and she even kept the name of the father blank on the birth certificate.

“But now she can see there’s never going to be a future with John – and she feels he’s lied about his promise to keep Elizabeth from trashing her in the book,” the insider divulged.

“Rielle is so infuriated by his and Elizabeth’s actions that she’s throwing her loyalty to him out of the window!”…

I wouldn’t disagree that Elizabeth’s choice not to “out” her idiot spouse had bad consequences nor that she engaged in some unattractive name calling about HRC.

But if she HAD ratted out John, we’d have all been talking about how cold it is to do something like that to a spouse (don’t vows mean something?) and how it will ruin the kids’ relationship with their father after she’s gone.

MooDoo would have claimed she was the cold, vindictive sort more than willing to deliberately shame her entire family in order to get revenge for adultery.

So, Elizabeth would catch hell, no matter what.

I do not fault Mrs Edwards for “standing by her man”, for Senator Clinton knew first hand from experience of her agony and chose NOT to use it.

That John is a thoughtless pig, just makes feel bad for Mudcat, having thrown in with his lot.

Two Americas. Suuurrre thing there Johnny! When Edwards and Clinton were caught on mike, at the end of one of the early debates,making comments about BO not being qualified, thats when the fun began.

BO got to Edwards but not Hillary, he had to get the DNC to screw her and the 18 million others in the process.

If you watch Hillary speak, she manages to dance around a full endorsement of BO’s comings and goings. Like Hillary said “there was more to the deal than was published”.

Please rescue my comment from the cellar!

Ditto to the other posters that Oprah’s comments about Michelle are delusional.

I was an Iowa precinct captain for Hillary in a small college town. My ward, the largest of 12 wards, included a residential area and a campus that favored Obama. On caucus night there were about 200 registered caucus goers in my ward and about 20 or 30 “observers” seated in a designated area.

In the caucus process everyone gathers into preference groups, we count noses and apply a formula to determine if the preference group is viable. Just before this process was to start, there was a motion on the floor to allow the “observers” to get out of their chairs and walk around. I objected strongly saying it could confuse the process of getting a accurate count and furthermore, I didn’t know or recognize any of the “observers.” I kept thinking who the hell are these people?

The motion was defeated, but during the process of forming preference groups, I saw a lot of empty chairs of “observer” who were supposed to stay put but didn’t.

Caucusing is like herding cats. Everyone drifts in and out of their preference groups visiting friends. So it is easy for “observers” to blend into the groups and influence or intimidate people. If I had my way “observers” would be banned from the caucus. Better yet, we should just get rid of caucuses.

Obama won 38% Edwards 29.8% and Hillary 29.5% of the Iowa caucus vote. Without a doubt, if not for slime-ball Edwards, Hillary would have won the presidency.