You’d have to see who the person that accompanied CHeney’s trips on behalf of CIA was or look at their Sgt. at Arm’s notes, or whatever person and title works similar capacity at CIA.

He was sending out a flood of BS and trying to deduct exactly how or where the review apparatus was acting at.

Why so? As the Forntline program just noted- bolton was Cheney’s man put it an State to undermine Powell.

Bolton and Elizabeth Cheney(Near East affairs at State) were part of the Cheney putsch to control the review of intelligence and shape foreign policy.

Cheney kept going back to push through the ongoing underhanded efforts of Bolton.

Oh, yeah, I did say ‘which’. But, is that precise enough, today?
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Initially he went after Plame’s political donor status. Bush was simply spying on Kerry donors to politicize the campaign and it turned out he came upon the gold mine of nonproliferation that monitors of all Cheney’s potential international business in the energy sector.

The kinds of search engines they employ now just about fishes out everything in the area. “Related and unrelated” as Rummy would say.

The trifecta was hit. Brewster capped Iraq, Halliburton/Bechtel interests, and the nuke proliferation wanted to make the Star Wars boondoggle pary of the plan.

Mission Accomplished.

Good luck with that “thread-heating” thing, Tom!

“To anyone who wished to do some searching or backtracking, B-J could have been outed by Novak’s first article. Yet he went back a week later in a second article and specifically outed B-J. In the interim between his two articles, for whatever reason, no mention of B-J appears anywhere else in the media.”

“He went back a week later”? Actually, he went back 24 business hours later – the Brewster-Jennings “outing” was in Oct 2003, a mere two and a half months after the Plame outing.

Let’s see, here is the WaPo:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn/A40012-2003Oct3?language=printer

Here is Novak’s column, explaining his motivation:

“Following a meeting with the agents of the Warlord Zaron, who had already announced his plans to vaporize…”

Sorry, here we go:

On the same day in 1999 that retired diplomat Joseph Wilson was returned $1,000 of $2,000 he contributed to Democratic presidential candidate Al Gore a month earlier because it exceeded the federal limit, his CIA-employee wife gave $1,000 to Gore using a fictitious identification for herself.

In making her April 22, 1999, contribution, Valerie E. Wilson identified herself as an “analyst” with “Brewster-Jennings & Associates.” No such firm is listed anywhere, but the late Brewster Jennings was president of Socony-Vacuum oil company a half-century ago. Any CIA employee working under “non-official cover” always is listed with a real firm, but never an imaginary one.
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http://www.townhall.com/opinion/columns/robertnovak/2003/10/04/168651.html

I’m guessing, but he outed Brewster-Jennings to, hmm, show it was a weak, shoddy cover probably not befitting an active NOC? Nah.

But no one wants to hear from me – let’s cut to Josh Marshall:

“The truth, however, is that Novak’s televised mention of Plame’s ‘employer’ is a non-issue — at least in terms of doing further damage.

The damage was done on July 14th when he first mentioned her name.

The point here is what foreign intelligence agencies (and to a lesser extent transnational corporations and perhaps terrorist groups) are able to find out. And you can rest assured that from the moment she was fingered as a CIA agent in a prominent nationally-syndicated newspaper column, all of them ran her name to map out her lists of associations and activities.”
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http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com/archives/002046.php

‘Valerie Plame had nothing to do with the decision to call on Joe to investigate the yellowcake acquisition rumors, and Karl Rove knows this too; he’s no fool.”

From Patrick Fitzgerald’s indictment of I. Lewis Libby:

“7. On or about June 11, 2003, LIBBY spoke with a senior officer of the CIA to ask about the origin and circumstances of Wilson’s trip, and was advised by the CIA officer that Wilson’s wife worked at the CIA and was believed to be responsible for sending Wilson on the trip.”

Tough call – do we back Vosburg, with his vast psychic and comedic powers, or Fitzgerald, who only had the ability to get testimony from folks like Robert Grenier of the CIA?

Here is a link to the indictment:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/10/28/AR2005102801086.html

It may be too early, since this thread is just heating up, but the funniest thing I have read so far has to be this:

“Seixon quotes from the INR memo: “In a February 12, 2002, meeting convened by Valerie Wilson, a CIA WMD manager, and the wife of Joe Wilson…”

Conspicuous in its absence is substantiation of your claim that the memo said that Valerie was not a NOC.

I suppose it’d be possible to misinterpret the statement above as such, i.e., that “Manager” and “NOC” are mutually exclusive, but not even you’d be dumb enough to jump to such an unwarranted conclusion.”

That, of course, is from the same Chris V who first wrote this:

“Seixon lies: “The document described Plame as a WMD managerial type, not an NOC officer.”

Another lie. The document made no such claim.”

I just love the clarification, which amounts to, ‘well, it did say she was a manager, but obviously that could only mean NOC’. Obviously.

Since Chris V is a nauthority on the classification scheme used in the INR memo, he surely noted a glaring, tell-tale clue – the classification authority for the memo is listed as the head of the INR. What is missing is any footnote citing the CIA as the classification authority for the Plame tidbit.

If the paper had been prepared with knowledge that Ms. Plame’s status was classified, that would have obliged the author to cite the CIA as the classification authority for that isolated fact. These rules are in place so that, years later when folks are declassifying documents, they know where to go to see if particular bits of info still need to be kept secret.

Fascinating, yes? Anyone familiar with the rules for classifed docs would know right away that either Ms. Plame could *not* be a NOC, or that the State Dept author had made an error in preparing the memo.

So, depending on how carefully folks read the memo and how much faith they had in State, they might well have concluded that Ms. Plame was, as described, just a CIA manager.

But I’m just guessing here…