What’ll Be Left of the Democratic Party [Updated]

Want more on how to rig an election?

Notice how Obama camp always pushes for early voting, that is an old Chicago trick to sway outcomes as needed by a precinct captain! Something along what was going on in Lake County!

Now some info for you, Indiana and most states use the Diebold Accu vote machine, as pointed out on the Indiana Sec of State website, so check this out:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R5VeaMZ9Fb0

Now how can you sway the paper ballots? watch this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lZKfP1ObSaU

Now go back to the leaked Obama spreadsheet forcast on the election outcomes, how can someone predict so far in advance all the outcomes that is almost right on the money? Only way, fix is in Chicago style!

Same happened with caucuses, stack them knowing you will have enough people to win, done easily!

All it takes is a Precinct captains with a rigged pass card to do what you saw above!

If the prediction isn’t coming out as planned state wide, the early votes swing it to the candidate and take Lake county, 10% in one city of early votes of an entire county, enough to swing things!

Take a look at the maps in each Primary state, who won the major areas and the rate of the wins are high enough to make the outcome close enough to win!

Missouri had a major blimp towards the end in non reporting areas, and it went to Obama, strange outcome, like Indiana, yet not caught, as an example, Ohio, two counties held back, Obama counties, same thing, Texas same thing, the hold back counties were always Obama counties!

Let’s not forget the multiple reports of how Michelle needed to be convinced that they’d win and her father was for years a Precinct Captain before his death, so she knows a thing or two!

Think the fix was in Chicago style?

Boy was that ever inarticulate. But I hope you get the gist of what I’m trying to say.

I do know what you DO get it.

Thanks for this blog Larry and Susan. This gay blue collar dem appreciates all the hard work and effort you guys put into getting the truth out there. The Democratic Party should be ashamed of itself right now with it’s treatment of HRC.

It was very articulate.

Dont waste your time with the democratic elite, in the end, Obama has been exposed as a criminal, and a lightweight, a traitor, that is significant.

Those who support him have lost their credibilty, weakened inextricably.

So let’s get rid of them, we see the cracks.

Again, the lord works in mysterious ways, don’t give up hope, there is always reason to the madness.

Because, as Donna Brazile infamously said, “we don’t have to just rely on white blue-collar voters and Hispanics..” (TRANSLATION: They’re a bunch of racists anyway, so screw them.)

It’s all Rumsfeld’s thinking to me, this infantile narcisstic reasoning, flawed and fatal.

How’d Rumsfeld’s Iraq work out?

Brazille will do better?

Are you ready to confess that you’re a racist because you’re blue collar?

That seems to be what’s required these days.

(She wrote bitterly.)

Susan,

What is happening now is a reprise of what happened in 1971 with George McGovern and his supporters. Obama’s strategy of gainign delegates in caucus states is exactly the McGovern strategy.

The nominating process of the Democratic party is designed to maximize the influence of the far left with its delegate apportionment system, the emphasis on irrelevant red state caucuses and the dilution of the role of big swing states.

This is why the Democratic party became a minority party in presidential politics.

If Obama is the nominee, this year will be a reenactment of the McGovern campaign. Now as then millions of moderate Democrats like us are going to flee the party in the fall. This is also going to hurt the congressional races. In Illinois where I live not only will I not vote for Obama if he is the nominee, I will not vote for any Democrat who endorsed Obama (which si everyone here).

LOL

QQ

Great job Donna! Just when I thought there wasn’t anybody white left to alienate, you pulled it off! Thanks!!!!!! We wouldn’t want to insult those black blue collar workers by acting like we care about that HUGE block! Keep up the good work. John McCain says so too. He will be more than happy to welcome that huge block into the fold.

I have a Ph.D in math. I am mortified that any educated person can think Obama is remotely prepared to be President. Rather than listing what he lacks, let me tell you what he offers:
a good speech(sometimes).
That’s it.

Not all eggheads like Obama.

Oh this is good to hear Mark. A stat cruncher is going to be very helpful to us in the near future. Bet you’re sorry you told us. Heh.

…making mental note…

I feel abandoned. Where is a Catholic Francophone with working class parents to go? Donna, I guess, has spent too much time in Washington, DC. She has forgotten her Louisiana roots.

SusanPC – this really hits home with me. I will let this “new” Democratic party crash and burn in November. There is nothing Obama and company can say to make me support this garbage. I will fight my hardest to see Obama lose in November and remove Moe, Larry and Curly from the DNC leadership. I consider it my duty and a public service.

This site is my safe haven. Thank you for it.

The funny thing is, the best and easiest way to fix this mess is to have a re-vote in MI and FL. THAT’S IT! Simple as that. Just re-vote. If Obama wins the popular vote there, I’ll be willing to consider voting for Obama in November. Ohterwise as I told my Washington State Democratic party when they came sniffing for cash, I’ll be campaigning for Mccain come November. It least I know, he’s not a traitor to his country. Country before party.

Yes. I remember the last election when we all hung out at the same sites and cheered each other on. I noticed that a former friend who had joined the Swiftboaters against Kerry is now endorsing Obama on his site. He joins a current friend who I can no longer talk politics with because he is a far left supporter of Obama. So sad. So many bodies.
BTW – these people who quote percentages of exit polls of people who say race is a factor and assume white racism. I didn’t see where they said these were all WHITE people they polled.

A lot of us have degrees. I do, and from a not-too-shabby institution.

Larry has multiple degrees.

There are millions of Hillary supporters who are highly educated.

I think the differences are:

1) some of us with degrees come from roots solidly based in real middle- and lower-class backgrounds, and we REMEMBER, and

2) we are old enough and mature enough to know better than to believe some tripe in a speech.

(It never ceases to amaze me how many people believe ANY political speech, and take it to heart.)

Great to see all our pro-Obama friends are back.

We know our bakery makes tempting treats when the line is going out the door to get in.

I’m so glad you’re here. We can not only give each other refuge, we can also be a FORCE for REAL good — not that hope and change pablum.

“By any means possible”. I read that this morning and have read it before. We should be able to see by now that Hillary will never be allowed the democratic nomination.

Rather then just withdrawing from the Democratic Party to send a message, I think we need to start our own party. But perhaps, for the good of the country, she would accept our nomination.

And it really is “for the good of the country”.

speaking of Donna the unbiased, here is her latest “opinion” in the press, where of course the answer to wright/obama is …blame the Clinton, I am tired of people saying wright is about Race, to ME it is about G-D America, America invented Aids, ect.
The reason Donna wants the base to stay home is because she knows WE will vote for McCain over her fraud
Horse race or an honest dialogue on race relations? PhillyBurbs
Donna Brazile http://www.phillyburbs.com/pb-dyn/news/319-0505200

No one should be surprised that the Rev. Jeremiah Wright’s controversial media blitz reignited a racial firestorm. At a time when sound bites and YouTube define political reality, Wright’s emergence from the shadows he cast on Sen. Barack Obama’s candidacy gave the front-runner’s detractors what they needed most: ammunition before the Indiana and North Carolina primaries.

And they are firing their fusillade without thinking of either the short- or long-term damage to their own candidacies or to race relations in America. Talk about circular firing squads. It’s time to  how should I mildly put it?  move on or agree to have an honest conversation about race relations in America today.

To Obama’s opponents and those carrying the dirty water, it’s all about winning, not governing or leading a diverse, multiethnic and multicultural society. Our strength has always come from our ability to unite as one people, one indivisible nation. Especially in hard economic times and when our nation is at war, let’s not fake it: It’s time we all give credence to our country’s motto: e pluribus unum  out of many, one.

With a wink and a nod, Obama’s detractors and political opponents use code words such as electability to drive home the most divisive of messages: Obama’s 20-year association with what some in the media world label as a radical pastor is now new fodder to make him a drag on the Democratic ticket or an easy target for the Republicans. Pick your weapons carefully.

This comes on the heels of the right and newly emerging liberal hate machines in on the chorus that Obama is a modern-day version of McGovern, Dukakis, Gore and Kerry, an elitist out-of-touch liberal. Code translation: gutless and Godless, out of the mainstream and clearly not ready to become our nation’s commander in chief.

Obama’s burden was placed on him the day he first entered to pray at the United Trinity Church of Christ. And any explanation for why he stayed for so long will not end the shameful exploitation of race in this presidential campaign or in American politics. Race remains the most explosive, corrosive and exploitive subject in American life. Just once, can we have a healthy dialogue and conversation?

As someone who was once accused by some of the same vitriolic and controversial figures like Wright of playing the race card, all I would ever gain from this type of introspection is to come clean and ask others to listen and respect each other for their feelings on the subject.

With such an honest dialogue, America will more quickly reach a future in which our children will not be burdened by carrying the sorrow and tears of so many who have been stained, burned, humiliated, lynched, murdered, alienated, frustrated, angered and saddled with racism. Never mind the political cost to Obama or the fortunes to the Democratic Party, which has lost countless elections because we can’t seem to address race honestly when the issue stands before us. This is bigger than Obama now. It’s about our children’s future and us.

Three years ago I applauded the leadership of former RNC Chairman Ken Mehlman when he went before the NAACP annual convention to apologize for the past sins of his party. Mehlman, a veteran of two Bush campaigns and, in my opinion, a political genius, admitted: By the ’70s and into the ’80s and ’90s, the Democratic Party solidified its gains in the African-American community, and we Republicans did not effectively reach out. Some Republicans gave up on winning the African-American vote, looking the other way or trying to benefit politically from racial polarization. I am here today as the Republican chairman to tell you: We were wrong.

What Mehlman admitted in 2005, McCain and Clinton should admit today. But the political stakes are too high for them to join in an honest discussion. They would much rather see the fabled cool of Obama melt on the political hot seat. After all, this is not about them  wink, wink, nod, nod. Pastorgate (notice I am not giving anyone a pass) is about whether Obama can reach those white, blue-collar voters in Indiana. And it’s about  wink, wink, nod, nod  whether Obama’s tough enough to be president if he’s not tough enough to publicly assassinate the character and reputation of his former pastor. Right? Not even close. What this should be about is reaching out to everyone, regardless of race, ethnicity, creed, color, age, gender, sexual orientation or religion.

Even in the midst of an economic recession, an endless war and much to worry about here at home, we Americans have a lot for which to be thankful. Former President Ronald Reagan was so right; we are an optimistic people. We have each other to lean on in tough times. (Thank you, America, for your generosity to my home state of Louisiana during and after hurricanes Katrina and Rita.) We indeed have each other. We also have our faith and our shared history. I just wish those running for president would help lead us into the future and not take us back to a painful past without the healing grace of understanding that a meaningful dialogue about race would provide.

Until that moment comes, I believe Obama did the right thing in distancing himself even further from Wright, his incendiary words and his self-righteous arrogance. When news broke that Wright would break his silence, I thought the moment of truth would finally break free from the shackling downpour of lies. I was wrong. Wright’s description of the black church left me speechless. His nonexistent monolithic black church was not any black church I had ever attended and was certainly not the churches of my mother, who was baptized Baptist but later converted to Catholicism.

For some, what Wright did in speaking up only confirmed what Obama’s detractors had told the vast majority of Americans. But what Obama did should confirm to the millions of people who voted for him that their faith was not displaced: Obama is a decent man, a man of principle who understands that speaking out on race is the right thing to do even though it may result in their having to wait at least another four years for the new politics they so eagerly yearn for.

This election is about us, the American people. It’s up to us to confirm which leader is the one we need the most: Obama, Clinton or McCain. I have said repeatedly that neither race nor gender nor age should be the basis upon which we elect our presidents, nor should it be the reason we don’t elect them. Do I really have to add pastors to that admonition?

For heaven’s sake, I hope not.

If you’re not a racist, don’t apologize, if they labeled you as such, and it’s not true, they’ve deluded themselves.

You can’t build a winning foundation on lies, look what happened to Rove, their organization is NOT flourishing, it’s goes beyond the momentary beauty contest, and they don’t understand.

They use racism as bait, you’re not, don’t bite, it’s infantile, no more that a school yard tactic.

You have to think for the long term here, and Rove, and Axelrod are simply being used against their organizations, their organizations can’t sustain, have been considerably weakened.

Which is the goal, you use their methods against them, only dysfunctional people fight the way axelrod does, and his aberrant psychologically is used against him and his crew.

See, you don’t BOMB Pakistan, say, to change it, you play it like you play Rove.

Bombing makes for the big splash, the exciting football game, but it does not bring about long term security for the US, even greater Pakistani instability does not help the US either. But change in terms of really laying the foundation for a more stable Pakistan takes time. The first thing is to make it apparent to the Mushy’s, or even the moronic simple minded khan’s say, their methods don’t work, assuming complete control of his behavioral triggers. Until they stop, they fail, they will have no long term power, subhjecting themselves to complete chaos, uncompatiable with any meaningful function.

This is why the bombing of Iraq failed, and why the current attempts, such as they are, for democratic reforms via Bush, have failed. The splashy use of force doesn’t work, the behavior and thinking have to change.

And that’s not mushy, they get too far out of line, they get bombed, but intelligently, not the Cheney way. And pretty soon you can trigger a tantrum, predicting when, and how, they will fight, use terror.

The behavioral dynamic in a narcissistic Brazille is similar to that of a Khan, or a rumsfeld.

So how should it really be handled?

The woman is trash. Did’nt she accuse Bill Bradley of racism back when she was managing…or rather mismanaging Al Gore’s campaign?

Maybe the democratic party finally needed this. Things don’t get better until they get worse. It was high time that these extreme leftists and elitists who’ve been sabotaging the party for years were further exposed to the base…the REAL democrats who also constitute the MAJORITY.

I still believe Hillary can and will win, but if God forbid the nomination is stolen from her than it’s time we send a message loud and clear to dimwits such as Dean, Pelosi and co: mass defections and a landslide victory (Lord forgive me) for of McCain.

The party needs to clean up its act. Radicals need to form their own party rather than use the Democratic party as a front to further their careers and extremist causes.

Donna Brazile is an arrogant ignorant fool. That’s become very obvious over the last few months.

A little off topic but there’s a new article from Rove in the WSJ. I don’t care for him personally but he does make valid point. Per Rove, at this point Hillary is beating McCain in the polls and Obama is a loser.

“My analysis of individual state polls shows that today

Mr. McCain would win 241 Electoral College votes to Mr. Obama’s 217, with 80 votes in toss-up states where neither candidate has more than a 3% lead.

Ironically, Mrs. Clinton now leads Mr. McCain with 251 electoral votes to his 203 with 84 in toss-up states.

This is the first time she’s led Mr. McCain since I began tracking state-by-state results in early March.”

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB121020471141475293.html?mod=opinion_main_commentaries

Just Eggheads and African Americans?

Sounds just fine to me.

You know why you are sometimes called a racist? Because you are one.

SusanUnPc,

Will you be voting for McCain if Obama is the nominee? Write somebody in or sit it out?

No, Susan, your words are quite articulate and very clear. What’s happened in the netroots has been quite an eye opener for me. The right does not have the corner on self-deluded self-important idiots. The Democratic party is in the process of imploding. With all the accusations of racism by Obama’s camp has come a racial polarization of the Democratic party. I never thought I’d live to see this day.

The question I keep asking myself is this: if a fifth grader with internet skills could find out in 15 minutes how corrupt and unskilled Obama is, how he is connected to terrorists and thieves, WHY CAN’T THE DEM PARTY ELDERS SEE IT? Obama is poison to our party and it has already begun to do it’s work like some voodoo curse.

I, like you, feel a bit lost by what I see as the ultimate folly. If the Dem party explodes into fragments, it will be self inflicted.

Interesting that George McGovern has seen fit publicly to switch his allegiance away from Clinton.

Should have edited, “incompatible” not “un”, and sorry for the other errors, on my way out the door…

I “believe” (or more correctly to my point “take to heart”) political speech when I believe and trust the person making it.

This trust is from doing research about the person making the speech and looking at their character and previous actions.

Surely you are moved by the “I have a dream” speech, or JFK’s “moon” speech or Hillary when she speaks?

I get your point, but want to present my take on it and try to put political speech in context: who and why and what motives the speaker holds in their heart is what makes a great speech.

History books don’t record the speeches of fools.

Maybe you’re the racist. Usually people that call other people names are guilty of that very trait.

This was my email to Donna, regarding her comment:

“message to base: stay home.”?

Dear Ms. Brazile,

I find it very disconcerting that you have been speaking on behalf of the Democratic party, and all the while you have been an Obama supporter. You have not declared yet, but it has been obvious to everyone. And you have continued to drive a wedge in the party, even going so far as to allude to Bill Clinton as a racist.

And now, I see from this email, and your appearance on CNN, that you do not care about a majority of the party – white, blue collar workers, women, Hispanics, and the non-college educated. You actually said, “message to base: stay home.”?

Well, have no fear, many of Clinton’s supporters, should Obama be given the nominee, will stay home, or vote McCain. You can not use RvW as an issue, to try to force me to vote Obama. I know that will not be over turned. It is a voting issue, and we see it every four years. And I know that McCain does not plan to wage this war for 100 years. I understand his comments. McCain supports stem cell research, which is very important to many. And McCain is a decorated war hero, who has served and loves his country. And he has a long standing service, with many accomplishments.

Something that I absolutely can not say about Obama.

I am not a Republican. I am a Clinton supporter and a Democrat. And I think it is crucial that we put a Dem in the White House. But I am an American and I have pride in my country. And I do not, in any way, support Obama. His choice of friends, associates and churches shows me that he has the worst kind of judgment. His utter lack of accomplishments, spending only 143 days in the US senate, with 120 present votes, baffles me, that he has so much Dem party leader support.

How can we elect someone who has never accomplished anything, refuses to take stands on issues, befriends anti-American terrorists, attends a church for 20 years with Wright, and denies ever hearing anything controversial, and then stages a *public fight* so he can finally denounce him, takes credit for bills in the Senate that he had nothing to do with, and is propped up as the candidate of Change?? He is an empty suit, and is being forced on us by people like you and the liberal Obama loving MSM. Obama will never get my vote. And I know many others who will never vote for him either.

Obama does not stand a chance to win the White House in a general election. Had the party and the media (except those few who have actually challenged him, mostly Republican skewed pundits) done their jobs months ago, and actually vetted Obama, or even *questioned* him, he would have been out of this race long ago. And you know it! The debate on ABC was the most telling of them all, and they were ridiculed, for doing what no one has dared to do to Obama, but have been doing to Clinton all along.

If Obama is given the nomination, you and the Democratic party will be telling us ALL that you do not want to win the White House and that YOU want McCain as President. So, it is not we the voters who will be putting McCain into the White House, it is people like you, Kerry, Kennedy and the pro-Obama media.

And this is not meant to be a rude email. I believe this with all my liberal heart.
Sincerely,
Sara

I just got finished with a blog post at “Politically Drunk”.

http://politicallydrunk.blogspot.com/2008/05/new-american-disenfranchisement.html

Run, do not walk, to read this most excellent post.

BEGALA: We cannot win with egg heads. We cannot win with egg heads and African-Americans. OK,

LOL! Begala had the melt down. Donna responded.

Good luck to all of you. You’ll need it.

All that astroturf just does not work, if you don’t understand the meaning, or the motivations.

It’s pretty easy to understand why Britney Spears sucks, and Billie Holiday doesn’t.

Some people really don’t understand that difference, no matter how much they try to ignore, or pretend, true talent isn’t dependent upon validation by others.

In fact, sometimes it THRIVES, left alone.

Mel you nailed it!! And if Hillary’s folks don’t go into that May 31st meeting and lay the cards on that table with all the election fraud that has taken place nationwide by the Obamabots and camp..then they don’t deserve to win..I just have a feeling that that is what is planned by Camp Hillary..they will keep it quiet if and only if Fla and Mi are counted as voted…and the Hillary folks will leave the room quietly..but on the other hand if the R&B do not count Fla and MI as voted..they will go public with all the proof and facts and they will go big time public with the info..and destroy their little lord Obama!

If the Hillary Camp does not do that..then they don’t want to win..in my book..hell i know that the cheating was documented by many of us in Iowa..and many many were lawyers working for Edwards..i know the guy i worked as co-captain with.. at a large caucus was a big time attorney from San Fran..he told me to write down what happened that night..

Then many of us were asked to email our experience to Clinton camp approx two weeks before the Texas election so they would know what to look for …

I wrote a long documentation of the cheating i saw and experienced at the caucus i worked ..and it was sent to someone in the hillary camp.

It was all done quietly, and respectfully.

I do know from my experience working at banning DRE voting machines here in Fla that the one thing the dems are scared shitless of is letting the public know that our American voting is an illusion at best and rigged at worst.

The dem party is scared shitless people will stay home because they “don’t believe their vote counts”..

You can’t rig an election when there are few votes…you need lots to work with!..( i.e. 11,000 absnetee ballots???????)

so when the voting machine tabs don’t match what you need …you start dumping absentee ballots………

I believe Clinton camp has proof of voter “irregularity” shall i say….they damn well better have it and they better be prepared to use it.

I have a gut feeling they do.

and will.

but this is just my feeling..i could be dead wrong..
dead dead wrong..

but there is still a huge stink in Texas..and in Guam…and if Team Hillary doesn’t have proof..then they aren’t trying!!

just my 2 cents..

fly

Great to see all our pro-Obama friends are back.

Patriotic,

You’re new here. I haven’t gone anywhere.

I just keep stopping in to read NQ…most days in stunned silence.

I think that the New Demofascist party of Donna Brazealot can do without me…A LIFETIME DEMOCRAT….
I AM FED UP WITH THE EVERGROWING JUVENILE FACISM OF BOTH THE FAR LEFT AND THE FAR RIGHT…..
OH…… I MISS TIP O’NEIL….PAT MOYNIHAN…..

” The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil….is for good men to do nothing….” Edmund Burke. Letter to William Smith

Jesus Christ, and I thought impassioned Obama supporters were tough on Hillary! Obama’s been exposed as a criminal and a traitor? What kind of crazy pills have you been taking? You’re just pissed because the candidate you preferred lost. Get over it! This is how electoral politics works. You can sit around pontificating about the supposed “electability” of Clinton, but the majority of progressives who came out to vote in these primaries had a different opinion of who’s going to be electable this fall. It’s not about what race you are, your economic class, your blue-collar credentials or any of that. It’s about people! That’s what the Obama campaign has understood about this race and what the Clinton campaign has, unfortunately, been unable to grasp. We have bigger fish to fry, people. Namely, John McCain. Let’s not tear each other apart over this petty bullshit and get down to the business of burying the republicans in the sand where they belong!

My interest right now is what we can do about this end to democracy.
The worst thing is how helpless and powerless I feel as I see my party and my country destroying itself. Some friends, good Dems, one strong feminist and lesbian for Hillary, the other 80-year old mother of my SO, actress, rebel, minister’s wife, likes both candidates.
What was disturbing was how little either of them knew of Obama and his shenanigans. Hillary supporter was interested in hearing all that I knew, she will hopefully tell others. One good thing is, her ten-year old adopted son, who is AA, loves Hillary, loved her saying “Shame on you, Barack Obama”, understood the health care context, and now says to Obama supporters, “Shame on you”.

I would like to see our side to take more action, to make voters aware of the truth about stolen elections, Obama’s incompetence, lies, and the subversion of democracy re Michigan and Florida.
The media problem is the worst. You cannot have a democracy with the entire media a propoganda arm of big corporations and special interests. There is no place in media to get the truth now except for these sites, which have become so valuable to me.
I feel beaten up and abused any time I turn on media, that includes NPR radio, which tries to appear unbiased, but is clearly for Obama. Everyone appears to think not counting Michigan and Florida is fine, that we have no right to feel cheated if they are not counted.

My main point is we need a point of action and I am getting off point venting.
PLAN OF ACTION – PLAN OF ACTION.
We need to make our voices heard. And be realistic. Media protests did nothing. Let’s not waste our precious time and energy. What will make a difference?
I’ll start, then I would love to hear any other ideas or feedback.
I think we should start with the DNC. I think we should all unregister from Dem Party. Maybe set a day or condition for dropping out, related to Michigan and Florida.
Dem party, re Brazile, has said they do not want us. We have to call them on this. If it does not care about us, why should vote for them. I keep thinking third party, start a third party, with Hillary as candidate. I wonder what it would take to convince her. Any ideas? Maybe Edwards as VP. Real populist party, people’s party, representing all other minorities, Latina, Catholic, Jewish, working class, WOMEN, GLBT. Leave them with AA, wealthy over 150K, and teenagers.
From what I see on Corrente, Latina population is very angry. We need some good activist coalitions.Either take back our party, FIRE BRAZILE, count all states, or start third party.
When Obama bashed our only effective Dem president in almost sixty years, that was the end of Dem Party.

So when BO screws up with Iran you will be on the frontlines fighting that war Cee?

Interesting, as Dean respects Rove.(!)

But Dean is much too narcissistic to admit he screwed up.

What’s really funny is to see rabid, right wing Clinton haters start to take a closer look at Hillary and actully admit that they admire her guts and moxy. Seriously, if you have the stomach for it, take a peek at some right wing sites and I swear their positions about her are softening. Conservatives seemed to be drawn to strong leaders.

Agree Tom…and I will be 82 before another Bill Clinton comes around….and I don’t think the USA as we know it will exist anymore….The Devine Experiment will be over…..

Tuesday night knocked a bit of wind out of Hillary’s sails but once she regroups her determination will be solid as ever. And West Virginia next week will offer a big lift.

People are foolish to think this will be over before August. Even if Hillary withdraws in June, I’m sure she’ll just suspend her campaign like Edwards did. That way she can get right back into it come August if the situation has changed.

And she’s right to hold on. Sooner or later women will start to realize that they’ve taken Hillary for granted, that getting behind a woman for the White House is as noble a goal as getting behind a black man. If that perception changes (perhaps via a media backlash?) she’s got a chance. This race is being decided on identity politics but women haven’t participated in it as fully as black people have. Women need to give Hillary the same edge that Obama has gotten from this part of his base.

C’mon, women, wake up!

If it’s true, B, I suffer.

If it’s a lie, you suffer.

Get it?

Truth, you obtuse thing, truth.

He doesn’t get it, see how he comes back with xerox, indicative he doesn’t understand the concept?

Fatal in a would be troll…

But no, that is naive, both Democrats and Republicans would just isolate her in the White House.

More Regular Democrats like myself will vote for John McCain – we tend to be too busy to caught in the perpetual panties Twist that is the DNC and their Hollywood stooges. We got work, mortgages, Catholic/Protestant/Jewish/Muslim/Indepedent School tuition, all thetaxes that get wasted in public schools, taking care of the sick, elderly, homeless and troubled in our neighborhoods – Donna Brazile, MSNBC, HuffPo and Bill Maher have the time to worry about us Bitter Clinging people.

http://hickeysite.blogspot.com/2008/05/john-mccain-20-of-19thward-and-mccain.html

In regards to Obama … the ONLY racism going on is that 93% of black people are voting for him because he’s black. That’s it.

It makes me ILL … VERY ILL … to see Obamatrons calling the Clintons and anyone who won’t vote for Obama ‘racist’.

Why the hell won’t the MSM admit that blacks in this country are voting in a RACIST manner? The blacks are the ones being racist.

BTW – I never used to use the terms ‘us’ and ‘them’ and I never used to say ‘black’ or ‘white’ poeple. I always just said – people. Look at what Obama and wifeypoo have caused me to do. THEY, and their fellow racist blacks, have caused this divide.

It all makes me ill.

The Box o’ Crackers has an endless variety in the new political era….

Cee is defending a lie, she’s already lost.

So, don’t fight the wrong battle.

Hey, it’s scientific, the physics of warfare…

Give me a break, I voted for Jesse Jackson years ago and would have supported a Powell run if he hadn’t grabbed his ankles for Bush. Obama just sucks, that’s all. I won’t vote for him JUST BECAUSE HE’S BLACK. That would be…racist.

I still believe that if Hillary goes Independent, we can beat both McCain and Obama, and start a revolution.

http://therealistblogs.blogspot.com/2008/05/indenpendent-day.html

In the battle for the moderate voice there will be casualties — those who cling to ideology. The rest of us will roll-up our sleeves and get the job done and provide solutions for all peoples.

I don’t cling to hot-button issues, although I understand their importance to people. But our “leaders” have been using those issues to keep peoples divided and fighting, so they could “sneak in” in things like staged wars while we are too diverted from all the noise and senseless controversy. They “sneak in” things like the Cheney/oil-company energy bill.

Hillary gets this. She will be the voice of moderation. And in the end the ideologues may curse her for ending their addiction to divisiveness, but will praise her for the better society she will help to usher in for all peoples.

Hillary understands how to see the forest in the trees. Ideologues and extremists fight over twigs on a single branch of a single tree.

But, then, the Democrats seem to seek humiliation. They’re attracted to seizing defeat from the jaws of victory

Hate to state this here as this is your turf, but this is the truth: it’s because Dems are perpetual “victims”. 2000 election — “Bush stole the election.” 2004 election — “election fraud et al”. Never accepting responsibility that the candidates really did suck (heck, George Bush sucked as a candidate, too!).

Instead of regrouping and trying to find a better candidate to out fox the Fox, Dems went right back to the same old watering hole and brought out another nag. This time one that brought up the 60s wounds (don’t know about others, but my dad served 2 tours in Vietnam and had his 3 Purple Hearts and never used it to get out of combat — Kerry even made the Dem captain here wince, and he went around wearing his Vietnam war veteran cap instead — like the rest on the block, he’s a military retiree the Kerry types spitted upon!!). Now we are right back to the 60s again, this time with a DOMESTIC terrorist being buddy-buddy with a presidential wannabe who’s so inexperienced and full of himself that gamers call folks like him, “nubs”.

Dems who think Obama is electable now must be Martians. You saw what happened to Kerry, on his pitiful war record and conduct after Vietnam. If Obama gets the nod, you can be darn sure every red blooded Republican will zone in on Ayers and make Obama their favorite meat puppet — and they don’t even HAVE to mention race! McInsane will hogtie Obama’s only saving grace — the race card — and he’ll deflate like a ripped Macy’s balloon, as fast as Kerry did after being Swift Boated.

Politics isn’t a vacuum. Locally you elect officials who reflect your mores. What is nice and grand in San Francisco, won’t pan out in Little Rock. Different cultures and societies. The Democrat party is so out of touch, they keep nominating these WACKOS as presidential candidates, which the country just won’t elect nor give a mandate needed to do work — and maybe the EC will even disqualify as being too radical, or simply nutjobs (YES THEY CAN DO IT!).

So stop having these pity parties. Usher viable — cross all demographics — presidential candidates and reverse this LOSER trend. Start from the top, and rework the grassroots base (and this time equal time for the candidates, because Hillary bypassed GA all together — and doing that means little votes as she wasn’t there to canvas them. Honestly I feel short changed by that cherry picking, my candidate didn’t think my vote counted, yet wants my money instead — how do you build loyalty on that????).

Clean up this mess, or the Democrats will go the way of the Whigs (and kids do you even remember them? Nevermind, I doubt they even teach Civics in these million dollar schools now).

AGH!!!!

I have to disagree with you,

She’s fine, it’s your perception she did poorly, defend that lie.

And given that, as she is really neck and neck with Obama, despite your best efforts, I would think Obama’s people are in the process of wondering how to steal another election, if need be…

Like Rove, and Bush.

On that note MarkL….
” Human nature becomes a more and more race between education and catastrophe…” H.G. Wells. The Outline of History.
I agree with your analysis….

Stunned by the fact that you’re backing a loser?

And not subjected to the same methods used to game Rove, Congress?

Very nice, Sara.

Thanks, Sara. You spoke well for me. I’ve been trying to understand what happened to the Democratic Party. It’s just so sad. If Obama gets the nomination, I hope some good person who could be a good president will run on some ticket nationally so I won’t have to vote McCain or sit this one out. Is it still possible for someone to get on the ballot in all 50 states?

No, it’s not viable, it would simply create more votes for Mccain.

You dont have to do that, Obama has lost those democratic voters, due to his ass backward intellect.

Good job, Dean!

Again marginal talent doesn’t win wars, or campaigns.

Sorry, I was so anxious to write that I did not take time to proofread. Never finished sentence about friends, meant to say they were visiting for few days, were here on Tuesday night as returns came in. For some sanity shot I came to read blogs after everyone went to sleep, but was too tired to post, so everything came pouring out now. It’s been very intense few days. What happened in NC and Indiana was not good.
It feels as though there is no longer representation for more than half the country. People are being fooled again, it is working, this time by Dems. And votes seem not to count any more, cheating is so easy and is considered normal. I feel as if I am in an Orwell novel almost all the time now.
Action! What can we do?

Actually, the people who vote for Obama, who has a twenty-year relationship with a racist preacher and a 90%+ black racist vote are the one’s who vote based upon a racist agenda.

I guess I am having an acid flashback to 1972… After the crushing rejection of my starry-eyed, idealistic, rampant McGovern-mania in Nov 72, I suddenly became the most cynical populist you ever wanted to meet. A guy who hated ALL party politics as crass, venal, and beneath contempt. During this period (late 20s and early 30s.) I voted for 2 3rd party candidates (McCarthy in ’76, and Anderson in ’80–just to screw with the establishment).

Moral: rampant idealistic stupidity crushed at the polls will lead to rejection of that Party identification (as a natural reaction to feeling so “rebuffed” by the voters) for several election cycles give or take. The intensity of disaffection is in direct proportion to the intensity of the idealistic stupidity.

No, douches like Cee expect guys like Larry and my husband (and one day soon, my son) to protect them and fix their messes, just like they are expected to fix Bush’s mess in Iraq.

Is he a criminal and a traitor, yes or no?

And if he is, you’re defending a lie, really think now, oofy.

You’re not bright.

” He ( OBAMA ) IS A SELF MADE MAN…AND WORSHIPS HIS CREATOR…”
Paraphrase of John Brite….I inserted Obamas name as it is descriptive.

If the nomination is stolen from her? You’ve gotta be kidding! She is in no position to have this nomination stolen from her. If anybody’s stealing anything (and that’s not going to happen folks) then it would be Hillary stealing it from Barack.

susan ..it was from your heart…and an incredible heart at that!!!
Many of us have a stinky feeling with our coffee today..but i will never give up..i cried yeaterday and i don”t usually cry over this stuff, i usually just keep fighting..but with the damn media of ours .it is hard to not get down..the “pile on”..was “out of control” yesterday and today…team obama and the DNC is scared shitless of West Virginia..and Kentucky…but mostly WV because it is a swing state….because it will show..Obama can not get the White Vote..they don’t want that info getting into the Democrats brains…that will be very dangerous and damaging for the DNC and Team Obama..so they will strong arm Hillary every way they can and they are playing a game of chicken…they are beating her up every way they can..

f ..them!

Turn them off..i did all day yesterday..i put movies on..i refuse to listen to these assholes…the agenda is so transparent…

Dean is playing a game of …cover his ass..

every time i hear them speak i think..they are talking about the leader of the dem parties wife..you are talking about the “only Dem” who held the white house for two terms in 30+ years…the family who left the white house with a 67% approval rating..

how dare these pundits and assholes..what have they done for the Democratic party ..that the Clintons did ?..nothing..so that is what their opinions mean to me ..nothing!!

keep your chin up Susan..this isn’t over yet..not by a long shot..i don’t believe.

fly

Sara: Wow.

You need to start being humble. You will need it in the near future.

Ehemmmm………HOWL…………..Dean is a putz…….

I’m not new, I just had a face change after I wrote something here:

“Be careful when you arouse a lion, expect him to bite.”

I recall from your infrequent postings that you are an Obama supporter. I’ve stopped engaging them directly for the most part, but did want you and others to know I am not new here in case they were not aware.

Well, take care and good to see you around but do brush often, our treats have a high sugar content.

If you go to places like The Left Coaster, you get a mix of begging (“you must come to Obama now”) and threats “if you don’t vote for him the blood of every woman’s coat-hanger abortion will be on your hands.”

Ain’t gonna work. No, it’s time to let the Democratic party fall flat on its face and learn a very valuable lesson about screwing your base. If we lose abortion rights, then I’m sure the ladies at Feministing and Pandagon–those young women who were too hip and post-feminist to vote for the first viable WOMAN candidate for president—I’m certain they can revive the feminist movement and start all over again from where us loathed and despised baby boomers left off.

90 percent chance I stay home on election day. 10 percent chance I vote for McCain. Let’s face it: Obama isn’t going to win. Not with the ugly baggage that he’s got. But even still, on principal, I will never cast a vote for him.

And frankly, I will enjoy watching this arrogant, opportunistic and unprepared man and his obnoxious wife get taken down by the McCain-loving media.

Obama and his supporters have no idea the rage and disgust they inspired in Clinton supporters. But they’re about to find out.

heck i was called racist 2 weeks ago..and i am married to a double minority and my children are minorities!…yes it pissed me off..but i considered the source…and the ignorance.

fly

Hey, cool headed, hear about the teletubby who drowned in a can of Campbell’s soup?

He thought he could take over the nation with tomato…

LOL

BEEEEEEZLEBUD…..Why don’t you look up the term in an actual dictionary.
You are supporting a FASCIST…..YOU ARE THE RACIST…..

Does that explain all those extra and missing ballots in Guam?

“We’re growing a great family here at No Quarter. Each of you is making a big contribution, in all of your writings and your comments, to making sense out of this insane, confusing mess.”

Bravo! Excellent commentary, Susan! This is my favorite Blog site. You are the best writers and have the best bloggers. Thanks for the email from DB. What on earth is her problem? She is way too unprofessional to represent the Democratic Party, under any circumstances. She needs to get that chip off her shoulder or keep quiet.

http://www.thepetitionsite.com/1/pledge-to-vote-against-obama-in-the-general-election

PLS PEOPLE

ASK UR RELATIVES TO SIGN IT TOO

PLS PLS
PLS PLS
ASK UR HUBBIES

ASK UR SISTERS

ASK UR MOTHERS

ASK UR WHOLE FAMILY

ASK UR CO-WORKERS

ASK UR NEIGHBORS

ASK ANYBODY AND EVERYBODY U KNOW

WE NEED TO HAVE AT LEAST 10,000 SIGNS

PLS POST THE LINK EVERYWHERE ,,,ON ALL NEWSNETWORKS,BLOGS,NEWSPAPERS AND EVEN REPUBLICAN BLOGS

we are still short of more than 8,000 signatures

come on people ,,get it done

Thanks!

Ciao Uppity!

The burden of proof is on you if you’re going to make ridiculous statements like that. I’m actually glad he knows Ayers and Dohrn (sp?). I also agree with Rev. Wright. I’ve read my history and I know that the U.S. is very far from perfect. If it makes you a traitor for associating with people who acknowledge that, then so be it.

They’d rather continue to ride the horse that won’t make it to the end of the race than change horses.

No, Cee, Begala has the wisdom to see the truth. Obama is a puppet of the extreme left and will not be elected president when the republicans are through with him. He can’t take a punch. Believe me, there will be so many punches thrown at him, he will simply crumble. Hillary is a fighter and will make the best president ever. So go back to la la land and have some koolaid!

GREAT piece Susan!

This is OT, but I just have to give everyone a heads-up on this story. I just heard on Fox, while Terry McAuliffe was being interviewed no less, that the Obama Campaign is planning to DECLARE VICTORY ON MAY 22!!! Terry reminded the lady interviewer that on May 22 BO wouldn’t have the required delegates to win the nomination.

THE ARROGANCE OF THESE PEOPLE KNOWS NO BOUNDS! He’s actually going to declare victory, If what Fox reports is true and so far, they have been more reliable than all the other networks,

Why is nobody talking about the Latino vote
by observer5, Thu May 08, 2008 at 10:25:14 AM EST

It seems to me that:

1. Obama has irretrievably lost what the MSM calls the “downscale white” vote (a.k.a. the white trash crowd, per Randi Rhodes) – even if Hillary were to spend 24/7 in the boondocks to plead his case for him. Blame it on inbred racism or clingy bitterness. Most white men will NOT vote Obama.

2. Obama has lost white women. Blame it on Hillary and the hard-to-miss mysoginistic treatment heaped on her by Obama followers and the MSM. Younger white women may vote Obama, but most OLDER white women will NOT.

3. Obama cannot win the GE with just African-Americans and latte liberals.

4. Therefore, the Latino/Hispanic vote is key. Unfortunately, the tensions between Latinos and blacks are well documented. Talk to anybody in California and Texas; look at the primary stats. Richardson is an anomaly. Most Hispanics will NOT vote Obama. They have watched this race, and they have seen how Hillary fought. I suspect they will vote like the “downscale white” crowd.

http://mydd.com/story/2008/5/8/102514/5179

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NOT JUST ONE BUT AT LEAST 5 ,,,

That’s actually not true, you’re not looking at the good people here, why would anyone stand back and allow someone like Cheney, or K**, even to dictate?

You allow half wits to direct you?

That’s down right unamerican, to allow yourself to be bullied by an inferior.

Racism is a truly serious term — and a term that must be used carefully and inviolably.

But you violate its true intent — and the desperate need to use the term – when you toss it about like confetti.

Shame on you.

You make a mockery of the history of real racism in this country, especially those who have suffered the horrific effects of real racism.

Comedy is not your strong suit.

Your angst is certainly understood here, Susan. But I agree with so many on this blog that this race is about to go Hillary’s way, and North Carolina was Obama’s “last hurrah.”

I think a lot of people can’t see beyond the race thing. It’s a fact and there’s nothing we can do about that. I just thought of the serenity prayer, as it applies here:

God grant me the serenity
to accept the things I cannot change;
courage to change the things I can;
and wisdom to know the difference.

What we can possibly change at this moment is the minds of the superdelegates. And we need to get on it, today, now. We need to help each other to follow through on this.

Toward this end, here’s a link to a list of uncommitted super Ds:

http://tinyurl.com/2xbvgn

It’s fun to pick the superdelegate you want to contact for the day, although some may be able to contact more than one. My pick for today? Al Gore! I called his office (615.327.2227) and talked with a nice young lady named Rachel, who said she would pass along my message: Senator Hillary Clinton is the better candidate, and Barack Obama is unelectable! I couldn’t find an email for him, but the phone call was faster anyhoo.

Let’s do this as quickly as we can, friends – there’s not that much time left! And try to stay away from the MSM – they’re a waste of precious time (no pun intended :-J)!

DONNA BRAZEEEEEALOT HAD THE MELT DOWN AND ONCE AGAIN EXSPOSED HER HYPOCRISY AND HER IGNORANT RACISM…..
CeeHussein you are a fascist….What are you going to do when the rest of AMERICA SENDS BARRY QUEEN OF SNOTS PACKING….HAVE A RIOT ?
HAVE A TANTRUM ?……SEEK RELEVANCE ?

Like I said, Bob Shrum with bigger breasts and a different pitch.

Brazille is possessed with “we just have to have a black president” (even if he is a would-be tyrannical dictator who embraces Ayers and Wright).

She looks extremely crazed lately, like she is on a speedball of Hopeium and way too much caffeine.

I think she looks crazed because the majority of the party is not politically suicidal like she is, and she just can’t figure out why.

Somehow, I don’t sense you care what I plan to do and that you’re just baiting me. So screw you, and I’ll just keep you in the dark…. where you already are anyway.

Again, the best you can do is accuse people of not being smart.

Obama is neither a criminal nor a traitor and has not been exposed as such, except in your tiny little view of reality, which is quite disconnected from the real world.

He isn’t a traitor. Hillary isn’t a traitor.

If the democratic party implodes, it will be your fault.

We are reaching out to you, you are the rejectionists.

Its not too late, put aside all of your bitterness and hate, come join the winning team.

I love that Obama has a coalition of men who failed to win the presidency, telling him how to win….

Because the prevailing conventional wisdom is that RACISM is only a CRACKER hobby…..

Hillary went out to West Virginia today for a noon rally. I found out about it and mentioned it to a friend of mine at work, and she just happens to lives just outside Shepardstown (commutes in to a DC suburb). So she rang her husband at home even though she wasn’t sure he’d get out to it – and darned if he didn’t make it to the rally. He had a great time and even learned a few things about Hillary that’ll help him decide who to vote for next Tuesday – like the fact that Hillary’s is the only universal healthcare plan out there.

Once I found out he was an undecided voter I swung into my phone banking mode in the hopes that she’d pass along what I told her. I talk about things that usually help folks get a little insight into Hillary’s character – things they won’t hear on the talking head shows or the news. I told her about the major difference Hillary’s early and continued focus on children has had in my own son’s life. Of how she’s fought over the years for programs and funding that provide that vital early intervention for children with developmental delays. Of how she could have had an easy path to the big bucks when she earned her law degree from Yale, but she chose to go to work with Marion Wright Edelman at the Children’s Defense Fund and has continued in public service for most of the next 35 years.

At any rate, I think I may have won a couple of votes for Hillary just by mentioning that I was taking my daughter to hear her speak later today. You never know where you’re going to find a few votes on any given day eh?

So back to her visit to Shepardstown WV today – she spoke with the press while she was out there and the campaign put up a video of it on their YouTube page. Take a look…

http://www.mydd.com/story/2008/5/8/05313/41398

*******************************************************PLS LEAVE COMMENTS **********************************************
AND PLS PASTE THESE NICE HILLARY DIARIES ON ALL THE BLOGS ***********************************************

AND READ THEM AND LEARN OUR TALKING POINTS *********8AND MENTION THAT ON PRO-OBAMABLOGS ************************************************

WE MUST E-MAIL ALL THIS STUFF TO SUPERDELEGATES AND NEWS CHANNELS TOO****************

HILLARY NEEDS US ,,,,,,,WE NEED OUR

AMERICA NEEDS HER

SO COME-ON PEOPLE ,,,********NO TIME FOR REST ******8

GET TO PHONES*******

START RAISING MORE FUNDS&**********8

HAVE PEOPLE SIGN THE PETITIONS**********

Off topic:
Last night I was watching the map guy on Blitzer pointing out that Hillary still had a chance if she did x, y, and z. My telephone rang and a well spoken young woman said she was calling from the Obama campaign. I could kick myself for the next part because now I don’t know what she wanted, but I live in Michigan so. . . I said I support Hillary and would not vote for Obama under any conditions. The caller replied, “She’s dropping out of the race.” Then I told her what the map guy was pointing out as we were speaking and the call was over. I can’t believe how stupid I was to indulge in a kiddy-gotcha’, instead of finding out what was happening. Has anyone else received such a call?

I think Dean the Putz was just lucky….I don’t ascribe him talent…..
Ehemmmm………HOWL………nuff said……

No kidding, what part of ‘Clinton left office with a 65% approval rating’ do they not get?

Susan, I agree wholeheartedly and speaking of being agents of change, I have a gift for Hillary coming in the next few days. It was inspired by her courage under fire and leadership. Stay tuned.

“Be careful when you arouse a lion, expect him to bite.”

In the case of my gift/bite, its a gentle one but inspired by being cornered by the pro-Obama zealots and my leader Hillary’s courage under fire. Look to see an amazing transformation of our culture away from the noise of extreme ideology and to the center of real solutions, innovation, peace and prosperity.

http://www.mydd.com/story/2008/5/8/113033/0950

OKAY ****SUSAN***LARRY****8

THIS ONE IS ATTACKING U GUYS

EVERYONE *****EVERYONE******PLS GO AND LEAVE COMMENTS

THIS WOMAN OR MAN IS CRAZY*********

“if a fifth grader with internet skills could find out in 15 minutes how corrupt and unskilled Obama is, how he is connected to terrorists and thieves, WHY CAN’T THE DEM PARTY ELDERS SEE IT?”

What I’ve been asking my self for a year and a half.
We know why the media wont report it but why the DNC wont admit it leaves me thinking they want to throw the election so they wont be left holding the bag when the country goes to hell.

Most Latinos are Catholic and will not vote for Wrights BLACK LIBERATION THEOLOGY…..LIBERATION THEOLOGY did not work out so well in the countries many Latinos are refugees from…..

Disclosure- voted for Clinton in my state’s primary in VA.
I discovered this blog during the Plame affair ad have visited ever since, because I was always intrigued by its take on national security issues.
Lately, it has devolved into a Hilary cult of win-at-all-cost!
The judicial appointments are too important to me to sit by and see McCain get in the WH.
I will contribute, work and vote to see whoever the Dem candidate get elected.

And what exactly is this “FORCE for REAL good” you propose? Sounds kinda similiar to the hope and change spiel, if you ask me. Pot, meet kettle!

Thanks for expanding on my theme.

And Billie Holliday sang “Strange Fruit.”

People should listen to that song if they have not heard it. It will rip their hearts out.

I could not even name a song Spears sung or wrote. And the history books won’t be able to either.

Aren’t you one of the ones who gets upset when people attribute Bill Clinton’s actions to Hillary?

That 65% was HIS approval rating, not hers.

The intensity of disaffection is in direct proportion to the intensity of the idealistic stupidity.

Quote to remember.

i sure would be having lawyers in Guam looking into it..wouldn’t you??????and gathering proof of what happened in A HIGHLY HILLARY SUPPORTING AREA….

i know here in Fla..just in my county in 2004.. that Kerry lost by a very slim margin..our supervisor of elections ..lost absentee ballots ..that were in a big box..under a desk in her office!!

opps …they weren’t found in time to be certified…

get the drift?????

fly

Obama voted for John Roberts.

i would have lawyers all over that..and i would also have computer geeks on hand as well!!

fly

The great Donna Brazile wants to unify the party and says the base should stay home?

I can do that, no problem.

What a beautiful, heartfelt diary. Susan, you are one of the heroines of this election. Keep on doing what you are doing.

My new signature line:
Has Obama withdrawn yet?

D Brazille forgot the Asians who in large number voted for Hillary in CA. Maybe the Democratic party doesn’t need them as well.

reply to CoolHeaded…to quote you..

“but the majority of progressives who came out to vote in these primaries had a different opinion of who’s going to be electable this fall. It’s not about what race you are, your economic class, your blue-collar credentials or any of that. It’s about people! ”

psssssssssssss…you might want to get on page with your lovely Donna Brazile..you know the lady who stole my vote ….she had something different to say ..for all the world to see and hear on CNN…

fly

WE RESPECT YOUR OPINION

BUT IF U R A FAIR PERSON ,,
I BEG U TO TELL ME ,,

THAT U R NOR AWARE OF THE ABUSE AND MISTREATMENT OF CLINTON AND CLINTON,S SUPPORTERS
THE MEDIA,AND OBAMAS ATTACKED HER CHARACTER ,,,

WHERE WERE U THEN

WELL ,

FINALLY WE HAD ENOUGH
SO WE VENT OUR ANGER HERE ON THIS BLOG ,,,SINCE MSM IGNORES EVERYTHING OF OBAMA,,,,,,

http://elections.foxnews.com/

PLS VOTE

***** should hillary drop out ******

You want to end this? If Hillary is not the nominee than IN NOVEMBER WRITE HILLARY IN AS YOUR CANDIDATE OF CHOICE.

If there is no place for a “write in candidate,” than do not vote for either presidential nominee.

So if Hillary wins the popular vote she should be the nominee, right?

http://elections.foxnews.com/

PLS VOTE

***** should hillary drop out ******

*******pls vote*******

pls paste it everywhere on hillary websites *****

we wanna give a pic that we want her

**********THANKS************

I am so tired of the term racism being bandied about…..

Racism. n. 1. a belief that one’s own race is superior. 2. A policy or practice based on racism. Random House Dictionary

Bigot. n. a person who is extremely intolerant of another’s creed, belief, or opinion. Random House Dictionary

Creed. n. 1. an authoratative statement of the chief articles of christian belief. 2. an accepted system of religious or other belief. Random House Dictionary

I will profess here and now my BIGOTRY as an OUTRIGHT REJECTION of OBAMA’S CREED BOTH POLITICAL AND RELIGIOUS….
AND IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH HIS SKIN COLOR….HE IS FASCIST…

http://elections.foxnews.com/

PLS VOTE

***** should hillary drop out ******

*******pls vote*******

pls paste it everywhere on hillary websites *****

we wanna give a pic that we want her

“Excuse me for daring to say that I’ve NEVER understood the need for unquestioning party loyalty.”

Totally agree. The way I look at it, the best of all possible worlds is:

President Hillary + Democratic Congress

next

President Hillary + Republican Congress

President McCain + veto-proof Democratic Congress

next

President Obama + Republican Congress

next

President Obama + Democratic Congress

next

President McCain + Republican Congress

Also, I liked the comment about the Hillary Team barraging the DNC with documentation of voter fraud. The whole scene smells very bad from where I am and I am only an armchair observer.

ohh patriotic lion..you got me hooked and at full attention!!

I await with bated breath…

fly

You know why, right ? They don’t want PR to vote b/c it could tip the pop vote to Hillary.

We need to purge our party of 1 dimensional hitmen like Lanny Davis, and replace him with new hitmen more grounded in reality (ie Greenwald, Schecter, John Amato, etc)

This is the stupidity of one of the posters. Read it carefully.

That any “hitmen” are in the equation is what’s wrong. Politics isn’t a hit job, that’s what third world thugs do to voters.

But according to Brazile: the message to the base is stay home. I think that’s exactly what they want. It’s the only way Obama will have a fighting chance against McCain if the base stays home. Whcih is why I don’t think the DNL will care what proof Hillary has, they’ll just call her bluff to go public and why would she when the MSM is not on her side and won’t report it.

Also bear in mind that many of the Republican Conservative base may stay home. IMO, all of these factors levels the playing the field for Obama. Once the ‘bitter white working class vote’ is neutralized, then the AA vote will figure higher.

Re the latino vote, maybe Richardson is on board to be VP. If that’s in play then they figure to get a substantial margin of their votes. And don’t tell me about Richardson not being liked in the latino community. If he is bilingual, he’ll mobilize quite a few, not all, but enough to make a difference if the white vote stays home.

Brazile is a little biit too cocky for something not to be up.

However, I wonder if she knows that her career is over after this election? She won’t even be plant food after November. I mean, who would want and idiot who doesn’t even know enough to push the ‘delete’ button on emails and not respond. That is too stupid.

Actually you are almost insulting poor Britney if you’re comparing her to BO here

at least Ms Spears used to be able to dance and carry a tune at the same time. (used to, lol)

I don’t see BO being able to do anything but deliver a pre-written (by SOMEONE ELSE ) Speech.

Oh and he’s like the black David Cassidy, I guess.

I don’t see it. I see a black Alfred E Neuman. And damn neither one of them EVERrrrrrrrrrrrr smiles. It’s depressing. They are like the Adams Family (values included?)

yuck

No, if the democratic party implodes (and it will if Obama is nominated) it will be the fault of little pricks like you who can do nothing but insult people.

Come join the winning team? You’re supporting McCain?

it is not as simple as that..

most of Florida’s voting machines have been disabled or sent out of state..as the bill that banned Dre voting machines and mandated Voter verified paper ballots was the very bill that the republicans attached an ammendment to to change our primary date..

the banning of the voting machines is effective July 1…of this year..so the machines in 15 of our largest counties are already mostly gone..and can not be brought out for a re-vote.
The new mchines will not be online until late August for an election in August.( if they are ready then)

and Dean and Brazile and Obama all knew this when they dragged their asses on a revote early on.

fly

and a dead animal permanently housed on top of her head…chuckle…

ok I’ll be nice (for a minute) and say there is also a chance that Donna is cracking up BECAUSE she’s feeling pulled apart internally between her Race and her Gender.

Maybe wanting to go one way but being pulled back by the other side.

I think that could mess me up too.

No. Donna Brazile has said we don’t count, she does not want us.
Fine.
There is a movement now starting. NOBAMA movement.
You cannot abuse our candidate and us for months and then turn around and ask for our forgiveness. And support yet. As soon as you would get our vote you would turn around and abuse us again. No.
Sounds very much like an abuser in a relationship. Hillary supporters are the ones who would not stand for it.
I will only vote for a Democrat. A true Democratic does not praise Reagan, then trash Bill Clinton.

but

again when I think about it further I just think perhaps she’s just a coward in NOT announcing her preference.

COWARD

Agree…imagine how powerful Donna’s party will be composed of some 13% of the US population….with a few egg heads….OH BROTHER….

Welcome to the CRACKER BOX…Lots O’ Variety….ever increasing…chuckle

This trust is from doing research about the person making the speech and looking at their character and previous actions.

This is also why the arguments that Obama’s plans and policies are very close to Hillary’s so why not vote for him do not sway me. The important difference is that Hillary actually believes in those plans and will work to implement them. Obama will do whatever the Rezkos and Exelons of the world tell him to. He simply cannot be trusted.

All the more reason why I don’t think it will mean anything. Look what happened in 2000 & 2004. It didn’t make a difference then and it won’t now. I’m not saying Clinton won’t make her case. I’m saying that it will fall on deaf ears. If this was the other way aroud and Obama was claiming cheating by the Clintons the MSM would be all over it.

Why should’nt VOTER FRAUD BE EXPOSED…..OVER 2000 COMPLAINTS OF VOTER FRAUD AND INTIMIDATION IN THE TEXAS CAUCUSES ALONE…..
AND THEY WERE EACH AND EVERY ONE OF THEM ABOUT OBAMA’S CAMPAIGN…..AS USUAL….

That is exactly what I intend to do. If we all wrote in Hillary’s name that would send a BIG message to the Democratic Party.

Riiight. Because her delegates from FL and MI are not being counted. Because the record number of millions of American citizens who voted for her in FL are being told that their vote does’nt count.

Yes, the party “leadership” in cahoots with the MSM are doing everything in their power to STEAL the nomination from Hillary. If the media had done it’s job and vetted Obama sooner we would’nt even be having this conversation. Obama would have been out of this race a long time ago.

The arrogance of Donna is shocking. How do we fire her? Don’t we pay her salary? She is so in the tank for Obama, and publically declared we are irrelevent when in fact it is SHE who is irrelevent. Trying to shove this inexperienced bamboozeler down out throats and when we won’t swallow calling us racist is no way to win an election. She needs to buy a clue and be kicked out of the DNC. NOW. She can take Dean with her. How dare that pompous ass declare Victory?? What an elitist pig. Axelrove is scum. I can not even watch tv, not ONE channel cable or no, they are all in the tank for Obama, it’s truly unbelievable. to me the Democratic Party was already dying but Donna just drove a stake through the heart of the Party. She should step down NOW or be fired.

I see a black George W. Bush, but that is sort of what you said.

Yep! I know what’s going on. I wonder how Hillary will react to his premature declaration of victory? He could look VERY, VERY foolish at the convention.

yes I agree! Very Nice!

I would add my name to that! (twice)

“If the democratic party implodes, it will be your fault.”

Actually, I would love to be the reason the Democratic Party implodes.

It’s all about me. In a Democracy I have that privilege.

Now go reach out and touch someone who doesn’t understand demographics, who knows that there will be no caucuses in the GE, who lets you piss in their face and call it rain.

I don’t really give a shit about Donna Brazile. And you shouldn’t either. She’s just another talking head. So, you’ve voted, voiced your opinion, and you’re sticking with Hillary. That’s perfectly okay. But the point I guess I was trying to make in my post was that if you’re going to vote for McCain in the fall if Hillary doesn’t get the nom, then you were never a progressive in the first place. The republicans are gonna need all the help they can get in the fall, and if you want to provide them with it, go ahead.

I will profess here and now my BIGOTRY as an OUTRIGHT REJECTION of OBAMA’S CREED BOTH POLITICAL AND RELIGIOUS….
AND IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH HIS SKIN COLOR….HE IS FASCIST…

Ditto.

I also refuse to not be regarded HUMAN, with the God given right to have creeds; to be bigoted; and even be a racist (because I also refuse to denounce one side of my ancestry to “fit in”) — I’m PROUD being Japanese-Swedish, and refused to be bullied by anymore Black mobs I experienced even upto the 90s, and Black racists to this very day.

When folks preach hate they beget hate, and it’s sure not me teaching a mob of 14 kids racist terms and associating it with fists. They learned it from their OWN racist mentality, no doubt taught by local Rev. Wright wannabes.

Is that your right brain speaking because according to Pastor Wright….Depending on your race you may not have the ability to analyze or dance…..are you a fan of EUGENICS….COOLHEADED…

how many states did McGovern win again??????????

oh yeah..1 state…..

i do remember that ..i supported Muskie…

and who was McGovern’s campsign mgr..oh yeah..Gary Hart…

I would not lose any sleep over what McGovern had to say..nahhhhhhhhhh

fly

Why do you have to call me a prick? I’m not trying to insult people here. Sorry if it came off that way. You need to grow up and elevate your discourse.

It ain’t spiel if it’s real, Obamabot.

And stop with those racist comments re pots and kettles. You’ll be drummed out of the borg.

excellent Sara..excellent!!!!

fly

The fix (be it Chicago or otherwise) has always been in. That’s a given. My cousin, Adlai Stevenson, who ran for President and lost to Eisenhower and the Chicago boys who didn’t think they could run Adlai)was a victim of that fix. They didn’t like egg heads back then.;)

Back to basics. Donna Brazile has been a long time friend of Karl Rove. They used to meet a couple of times a week for lunch here in DC.

Karl is still playing politics.

Here’s the deal:
(1) The current figures according to Rove show that Hillary can and will beat McCain, so get rid of Hillary.
(2) Put in Obama. He’s arrogant enough so that he really thinks he can win. The Demo-dumbs who run the Democratic National Committee (Dean, etc.)are too stupid to realize they being are played … again … or too greedy, fat, and rich to care.
(3) Run Obama versus McCain.
(4) Put all the other dirt that’s been dug up about Obama that you haven’t heard about yet and Obama loses … or everybody hates Mrs.Obama so much they vote for McCain just avoid hearing her tirades for four years. Eyes are rolling among regular staff at the White House at the thought of Mrs. O as boss, as we speak.
(5) Day after the election Obama sits there wondering what happened, along with Dean and Donna and company. Why? Cause Karl hasn’t clued Donna into the the rest of the plan, which is Obama loses.

(6) If by some very strange accident Obama does win, Karl hasn’t lost. Neither has Wall Street (Republican mega bucks guys). Obama, in the interests of reaching across the aisle, will do as the money guys say.

We regular people will be gutted. I can kiss my medicare, social security and other helpful things like Roe vs. Wade, goodbye.

See you all in the steets. My camp will be under the 405 overpass near the Veterans Administration. The pickings are pretty good there I’m told.;)

I guess this is the Obama campaign’s response to all the good Caucasian and Latino voters of Hammond, Indiana, who told the corrupt Chicago politician to go back to his Rezko mansion where he and his vile wife belong. Rezko’s mansion is only 15 minutes from Hammond, and those blue collar voters saw through the cosmetics and rejected the beast that is Barack Obama.

thank you hammond. and thank you blue collar white ethnics and Latinos of Northwest Indiana for rebuffing the corrupt Chicago machine politician who did nothing for steelworkers or for the residents of Chicago’s south side. The residents of Hammond know he is a liar, and we heard their voices loud and clear.

I LOVE HAMMOND, INDIANA.

I tried being polite the first time I posted here too. I like Obama and Hillary. If she gets the nominations I’ll happily vote for her in the general. These people all say they’re voting McCain over Obama, so that tells me they aren’t Democrats anyway. The site is ran by a former CIA operative, and it wouldn’t surprise me if this was a Limbaugh style Operation Chaos at work.

If she does not get the nomination, I wholeheartedly support the idea of a new party.

mimi, i tend to agree. brazile wouldn’t be so brazen in telling us to “join rush and mccain” if she didn’t somehow believe that they actually can win without us. i think they’re counting on us staying home, rather than voting for mccain. i’m holding my nose and voting mccain.

i’m wondering if what makes them so confident isn’t some more of that lovely fraud they enjoy so much in the obama campaign. maybe some of the gazillions he’s getting from hamas and the like, rather than the claimed everyday people, are going to pay the diebold people megabucks?

you know democracy is dying when a former president who monitors other countries’ elections says two u.s. states shouldn’t have their voices heard and votes counted.

so very sad. we’re officially a banana republic.

So because I agree with the statement that was replayed endlessly on TV, then I have to agree with everything he believes? I know you probably won’t believe this, but just because I’m an Obama supporter it doesn’t mean I’m incapable of independent thought. Thanks for insulting my intelligence and not responding to the content of my post, though.

THANKS MEL….In Texas there was also ILLEGAL CAUCUSING BY INELEGIBLE
VOTERS…in Heavily favored Obama precincts….and Intimidation….Anyone who looks at the Texas Map can see it…..

Not to mention the media will portray her as a nutcase if she does this.

And what exactly is this “FORCE for REAL good” you propose? Sounds kinda similiar to the hope and change spiel

There’s a difference between speech making, and actually making the promises work.

Folks are tired of these poor candidate picks, with the better candidates run over by nutjobs, because the party leadership is so disconnected they believe Martians are humans!

I really liked Biden in the debates. If Hillary wasn’t running, he’d be my candidate. Why? Because he not only talked, I knew he could do. Think he’ll make an excellent VP with Hillary — roll up the sleeves workers who’ll burn the midnight oil. Also like Biden’s bite-off-the-head rhetoric, matches Hillary’s tough image.

No more Democrat wimps (crap, even Reid looks like a washup).

I think that the popular vote should be seriously considered along with a number of other factors. However, the delegate count is what has historically been the measuring stick. Changing the rules to be advantageous for the losing candidate is not a very democratic thing to do.

No her message is you are no longer the base, get lost.

or because you’re an older white lady like me.

funny how the obamazoids forget that the old white people they so love to loathe fought for everyone’s rights 40 and 50 years ago. of course, they still don’t think women are entitled to those rights.

every time i think of obama interviewing michelle’s new boss to give his stamp of approval before she could take a job, i see burkas. and i see the young men of my generation saying things like i wouldn’t let my wife work. and i see things like women being held back because they might get pregnant. and on and on. of course, the young female obamazoids don’t see these things because they haven’t experienced them and think they only happen in other countries. so they feel free to call hillary a whore and to join in supporting a sexist pig (old term, i know, like me) like obama.

dear rayo..i sure share your sentiments..let the young ones even try to accomplish what our generation did..if they get coat hangers..they earned them!..let them fight to get rid of them as we did!

They want this shit..let them have it!!

see i remember a neighbor girl being found in a winter boat storage place.. dead ..and soaked in blood from one of those coat hanger abortions..i remember going to her funeral..and the parents were crushed..i remember it all too clearly.

there is one candidate that could have kept the laws we fought so hard for in place..well actually two..Hillary and Edwards..and the youth of today..they are too self absorbed and into their toys to give a damn…they are too self absorbed and centered to even do research on a candidate!

They get what they deserve.

I will sit back in my retirement and enjoy the beach and let them suffer..i am done trying to protect them from themselves.

fly

then you were never a progressive in the first place

what. utter. bullshit.

AND.. Donna Brazille is NOT just another talking head. She’s akin to Bill Kristol, who always gets listed as “editor of the standard” when he’s a founder of PNAC which influences policy. She’s a party heavy weight, who is vastly influencing the DNC’s handling of the blocking of FL/MI.

The repugs aren’t going to need help. Obama and their “undeclared” surrogates have said and done enough to sink his candidacy on their own.

Obama is a decent man, a man of principle

No he’s not. A decent man or a man of principle does not make false accusations of racism against opponents merely for political gain. And if he were decent, he certainly would not make obscene gestures directed at that opponent while delivering a speech.

And frankly, my dear, I don’t give a hoot about Obama’s crazy old pastor. I too am from the South, and crazy old preachers are a dime a dozen down here.

What I do care about is the hate-filled divisive campaign Obama has run. In Obama’s world, women, the elderly, working people, poor people, any races or ethnic groups other than AAs are not welcome (and I don’t think poor AAs are even welcome — they just don’t know it yet).

And I do care if a person running for the Presidency is a close friend and associate of an unrepentant terrorist.

Character, intelligence and the ability and willingness to work to solve this country’s problems will be the criteria for whom I choose to vote. Hillary is my first choice, McCain second, and I will write in my dog’s name before I vote for Obama.

It is a joke! These incompetents (GE losers) are like the Gang Who Couldn’t Shoot Straight. And, for another analogy, Obama is the one-eyed man in the kingdom of the blind…at least that’s how the blind view him.

Funny. I’m a typical 52 year old white woman who has fought the women’s issues fight and I am so over worrying about the SCOTUS.

If the young college women voting for Mr. Hope don’t care, why the hell should I? I’ve been there, done that. I fought so they could be where they are, but their gratitude for what was fought for by women before them, is lacking, to say the least. They take it all for granted. That’s too bad. They will learn the hard way and I DON’T CARE.

I DON’T CARE WHAT HAPPENS TO THE SCOTUS NOW. I am finished caring about it. I heard Chuck Todd this morning, on Morning Joe, say the Obama camp KNOWS they can bring the women back to the party because of the SCOTUS issue. “The Obama camp will play the Roe v. Wade card.” HIS WORDS, NOT MINE.

Well, guess what? I’m tired of falling for that old wedge issue and I’m too old to be manipulated like some 20 something Obamarhoid. I’m also too old to have to worry about an abortion or sexual harassment at work or equal pay for equal work and I just freakin’ don’t care about it anymore because I don’t have to. It’s not appreciated anyway.

He can kiss my typical white ass. I’m finished caring. Let the Obamarhoid 20 something females worry about THEIR RIGHTS. They aren’t MY problem anymore.

I’m finished with the Democratic Party. I now see they are no better than the republican party.

yes indeed.

am an attorney who came from one of those places obamazoids depict in deliverance type photos. poor family with parents who worked hard and eventually succeeded, as did their kids. just a “typical” american story. no wonder obama hates us – we worked for what we have.

I can’t sign in. I guess it’s because I just joined so I could reply. The email said it will be a week until I can post – guess they weren’t lying!

1. The rules did not say Obama had to pull out of Michigan, just not to campaign.

2. Obama put money (aka campaigned) in MI by telling people to vote for uncommitted. HE broke the rules.

3. Both their names were on FL; yet he was the one that campaigned there (a dinner and ad time). He broke the rules.

4. Now, the rules say that if any statesmoved their primary up, they’d lose HALF (not all) their delegates. And yet, no one is seating those half; doing so would validate the popular vote, which would then give Clinton the edge. BO and co. (ala Brazille and Dean and Pelosi) have blocked any effort to get a revote.

5. SC also moved their primary up. They broke the rules. But their delegates are still being seated and counted.

6. Having said all that, the RULES state that the Credentials committee can hear arguments for/against seating and counting ANY delegate (including and especially those from states where repugs played a role in getting the dates moved up).

So don’t play the stupid RULZ game. The rules allow for FL/MI to be seated AS IS.

PS. Historically? What since McGovern? Good analogy. Fitting.

Hillary will still have power in the party and senate even if she isn’t our president. I want her to be president desperately, but I don’t want to ruin her life or her good deeds by isolating her from repubs and dems. She needs them to pass her bills. We have to be careful and hope and pray for the best. If we have to live with McCain for four more years, so be it. We have lived through worse.

That Hillary supporters are stupid and uneducated is another one of their many dirty tricks.
I used to be a copywriter in advertising. (Note professional, with degrees.) Obama is marketed as a product. Many products, eg.Coke, Pepsi, Nike, are marketed solely as image. So too, Obama, as a product for the cool, hip, openminded, postracial person. Also, young, smart, educated.That is the whole reason to vote for him, there is no other.
Like Coke. How else could you sell an unhealthy, fattening, teeth and body destroying bunch of slop!
By saying the cool kids like it. And they must know.
Who wants to be old, dumb, uneducated like H people when you can be cool O person. Appeal to people’s narcissism. He is based on narcissism in every way.
Disgusting but it works. Ask any person who supports him and you’ll see. Also that they are not smart at all. They cannot see past the surface glitter and believe lies.

Very well said.

This is not only McGover redux, this is GW all over again.

It came to me last night that the DNC is making the same… I MEAN THE SAME mistake the Republicans did. They are following the same playbook of electing a figure head they think and perhaps “know” they can manipulate to get their own special agenda in the country and claim victory while ego fairies dance over their heads while they dream of the power at night.

And they will ram this person through just as the Republican did with GW.

And we will have yet another mess on our hands.

I say it is time for all good men to come together in the aid of their country …

I’m ready.

To Whom are you addressing your comment….Pray tell…

Sara-how about sending a copy this to the Super-delegates? It is beautifully written and clear. And so many of us share your position.

if just eggheads and african americans is fine to you, you must’ve failed math. enjoy your electoral vote count – mcgovern got 17. maybe your guy can beat that by a little.

Wow the signatures have doubled in days!

I will sit back in my retirement and enjoy the beach and let them suffer..i am done trying to protect them from themselves.

They’re nubs, Fly, nubs. Know-it-alls with a chip on the shoulder to boot, but lacking every bit of sense.

They’ll learn soon enough that politics is a grown up game, and one kids often get hurt trying to play.

correction on the date…I just heard this reported again and she said he would declare victory on May 20, not May 22.

SusanUnPc, What will be left of Democratic Party?

If what I experienced last week is any example, (what I emailed you)
nothing but splinters of a wrecked hull on the rocks.

I suppose the manifestations of political anarchy and the continued rise of socialism / fascism will permeate many cultural / ethnic norms, and in my view the trend lines are very destructive for American Society.

When so many people in positions of power, who are not accountable or willing to accept responsiblity for their actions, are focused on pointing fingers in the air or at anyone else but themselves…is it any wonder this country is where it is?

I really want to thank you and the folks at NQ for the forum.

Brazealot also holds office within the DNC….
She and Dean the Putz are named in sme Law Suits due to their mis-management of the DNC…

And another thing (sorry, Lyn, I’m really not fussing at the messenger), I am so sick of hearing the term “code words.” Bill and Hillary Clinton can’t ask for cream in their coffee without being accused of using code words or dog whistles to signal to all us bigots what racists they are.

Enough already! I don’t know any of these bigots who discriminate ONLY against AAs, and I doubt their existence. The ones I have been unfortunate enough to have any experience with are pretty much equal opportunity bigots — women, gays, Latinos, and anyone different from them in any way are all targets for their hate. So for the Obama camp to portray anyone not supporting him as a bigot is just another of their lies.

Get a clue, Donna. It is you, Dean and Obama who are destroying this party with your sleazy, hate-filled campaign. If you had an absolutely uncontrollable desire to have an AA male elected President this year, you should have run one with just a few qualifications.

Oooooh…..MIMI…….Excellent rejoinder…..

I have been wondering about that too. All the people I know who support Hillary – mostly Dems but some independents are college educated and beyond. And they live in differenct areas of the country. The only ones I know who support Obama are under the age of 30.

Susan,

Your words are just fine. And I know you are feeling it right now.

I never got involved with the so-called netroots for precisely the reason that their behaviour has resulted in much of the angry implosion we are witnessing now. I observed how they tried to get at Lieberman and how the people of CT held their ground and would not allow themselves to be manipulated by outsiders trying to flex their muscles with the newfound technology of the Internet. These people actually don’t have a good election record and that’s why they’ve gone batshit over this election. Hillary not getting the nomination will be a major victory for some of these people.

They’ll make noise in the GE, but with McCain as president they can still flex their muscles and come back yet again to fuck things up in 2012. I’m not confused about these people even if they are confused about themselves.

They are political schizophrenics, tormented by voices that they cannot put in order. They are haunted by an adolescent Utopianesque fantasy, which they’ve never been able to outgrow and are no different than vain silly grown women who go to sleep dreaming that someday my prince will come. They are daytrippers possessed with the idea of building their own personal political themeparks. They don’t know real people and could care less if it doesn’t support their infantile world view.

This Primary Season, they’ve populated their themepark with the AA community in exchange for the long awaited aspiration of a ‘black’ president and are parading them like Disney characters to all you ‘typical white people’ who have been suckered into buying tickets. Trust me, these people don’t know any black people and don’t really want to know any. Nor do they care about the very real and individual struggles blacks are facing as we are already one decade into the 21st Century.

Trust me, you are better off. The skin has been peeled from your eyes and you like all of us will survive. I’ve taken particular comfort in knowing that I survived the Reagan years, the Bush years and certainly will survive the McCain years. (I can survive the Obama years,too. I just won’t contribute to that scenario. After all somebody has to be around to pick up the pieces in the black community when they realize they’ve been played. Because the so-called white Progressives ain’t gonna do squat.)

Whatever personal choice you make it will be done with clear eyes and new knowledge. So don’t be hard on yourself. Life has a way of coming together for all those who have been true to their hearts.

Because you agree with Pastor Wright….You admit that you are Racist….Marxist….and believe in the phony science called EUGENICS….HEY IT WORKED FOR ADOLF AND THE GANG…..YOU ARE A FASCIST…..I would change your moniker Coolheaded….You embarrass yourself….

And let’s not forget the bullying and intimidation used at the caucuses to prevent a fair outcome, and his Democrat for a day campaign in red states. And now it’s threats of violence at the convention. Stealing is not a strong enough term for what Dean, Brazile and Obama are doing to this party.

I’m no longer a Democrat after being one all my life.

Thanks to Obama and his supporters.

So move along, pal. You’re blocking exellent commentary.

Although I agree with most of the comments, this
one is just right on the mark for me. I couldn’t say it any better. I will be voting for McCain if Obama is anywhere on the ticket.
I am finished with the Democratic party.

For the record, I never considered myself a Progressive. I was a loyal Democrat until recently. Have the voting record to prove it.

Now run along back to Axelrod and company and tell him these talking points aren’t working and that they’ll have to come up with a whole new set.

So, Donna, you say this is not about race?
So then why is that all you can talk about re reason to vote for Obama? We all need to prove we are not racists, vote Obama.
Your logic is all twisted. Oh, and people who want to “bring us back to that painful past” when Bill was president?!?(lol)

Good show!

I’m copying & pasting for future reference. YOu will get credit for this astounding list. Thanks ces!

The question is: how do we organize to oust Brazile? She is completely unprofessional and irresponsible in her incendiary comments. And she wants to “unite the party?” What a joke. I love the “I’m a working class person.” Right. And how much does CNN pay her for her “unbiased” commentary? She’s got to go. I say we make that a goal. Who knows how to mobilize that action in an effective way?

Because, you twit, Obama has tried to tear down what he did despite those approval numbers.

We’re the ones who get upset when Obama et al. attribute Bill’s negative actions to her, all the while denying her time in the White House would give her experience from day one.

Recycling repug talking points doesn’t win much favor from the majority of us that benefited from his presidency.

Yes, historically. As in, in the past? And just so you know, I really want MI and FL to be seated. I think that’s extremely important for a lot of reasons. Even if that means more delegates for Hillary, so be it. I don’t think she’s making a very convincing argument for it, though, but I digress.

I’ve gotta say, I’ve been fed up recently with all of the Obama worship over at Kos and places of their ilk. I don’t think it’s healthy to build up these grand expectations that he’s the second coming of Christ, or some other ridiculousness. So I thought I’d check out a “pro-Clinton” site to see if I could get a more level headed perspective of things. Granted, I support Obama, so I do have some bias, but I don’t worship the guy, and he’s not even as liberal as I’d like him to be, and I realize I’m in the minority on that. But I really don’t appreciate the condescending tone, the vitriolic, hate-spewing, toxic rhetoric around here. You guys are WAY WORSE than the Kos folks. And that’s saying a lot. I don’t think you are making your arguments much stronger either by putting down all Obama supporters as delusional idiots who would jump off a cliff for him if he asked. I have a mind of my own, thank you very much.

I’ve got 2 questions for the Obama supporters:

1. If we must vote for Obama because McCain is the worst thing that could happen to our country, then why did Obama-maven John Kerry BEG McCain to be his running-mate.

2. If women’s rights issues are the most critical purpose of our time, then why didn’t you vote for the woman? Why did you instead vote for the guy who isn’t sure if life begins at conception (and who wanted to vote for Roberts)

Nice write up from the Independent…

http://www.independent.co.uk/opinion/commentators/sarah-churchwell-hang-on-in-there-hillary-its-too-soon-to-quit-822750.html

The Brits seem to “get it” better than even the natives!

There’s another issue that is also worrying me. Everyone seems to think if Obama gets the nomination, the newsjackals will turn on him and start supporting McCain. I’m not so sure. If there is one thing consistently true of Obama, it is that he always does the bidding of his big bucks backers, even at the expense of his middle class or poor constituents (Maytag union workers), even when those constituents are AAs (Rezko unheated apartments).

McCain is not much better, but on several very important issues has been willing to take an independent stand more favorable to ordinary people and contrary to the interests of the corporations that control the media.

So why should the MSM support McCain, who can be counted on to see things their way only 95% of the time, when Obama will do whatever they want 100% of the time? Russert and Andrea Mitchell and Brian Williams are not real journalists — they’ll say whatever GE tells them to; and the other networks are no better. So I’m not convinced big media will be in McCain’s pocket; I think they might well find Obama a more compliant and attractive tool for their machinations. Which makes it all the more important for Hillary to get the nomination.

oH my MIMI..MUSIC TO MY EARS!!! sooo excellent..especially the pissing being rain!!

got me lol here!!!

these little newbies..think we were born yesterday and haven’t seen their childish tactics before..how pathetic they are!!

They are too green to know ..we have been there..and we were ones who rejected it in our own generation!!

they are truely pathetic!!

Hillary has 40% lead in WV..hahahahahaha….

guess the obamabots don’t need the white vote eh?????????

and they come here and try their insulting bullshit…go away trolls..you make it worse each and every day you come here…

I was for Edwards..and you have made me a stauch Hillary supporter with your antics!!

it was your troll bullshit that had me send my first $500.00 contribution to Hillary!!

keep it up!!

I will vote McCain instead of Mickey Mouse!!

fly

It is an incredible affront to me that the enemy turns out to be an enemy within. I feel incredibly betrayed by a Party I have worked literally my whole life for. My Mom ran the campaign office here for Bobby back in the day and I used to help her and I was 7. I love(d) this Party, now they want to toss me on the garbage heap for a con artist.

speaktruth,

Speak truth!!!!!

Salliort, this gets my “Most Interesting Comment of the Day” Award. Congrats!

I’ve got a nice, sturdy cardboard box I’ll bring.

I’m writing in Hillary’s name. I refuse to vote for Mr. Hope and I can’t bring myself to vote for a republican. I could vote for Nader, but I’m writing in Hillary…on principle.:) I want her to have my vote, so she’s getting it.

Doncha just love somebody with the screen name “CoolHeaded” who starts his first sentence with “Jesus Christ” and ends said sentence with an exclamation mark? It’s sorta like someone who calls himself a uniter, but does nothing but divide the Democratic Party.

I think we vote McCain …. Brazille wants Hillary supporters to stay home because that helps Obama. They can throw superficial threats about McCain… the real threat is Obama and his croonies.

I will vote Hillary or McCain.

Write in of Hillary is noble… and write ins are not possible on the machines …. and it is a vote for Obama.

I need to print that up. The 20 something females are basically standing on the backs of women like you then pissing all over you. Let the ‘Girls gone Wild/Bratz/BlingBling crowd fight their own battles. I’m beat.

We need Sen Clinton to run as an Independent NOW. The democratic party is dead to me. Let them do whatever they want with the party, I don’t care.

Please people, write to her and Bill and beg them to declare themselves as Indy. The party has shit on the Clintons after all they have done for the party. Now Pelosi and her pathetic pols friends in DC want to grab the next money train. Pathetic.

Frankly, I think Donna drinks.

Only through a haze of alcholic stupor would any professional person be stupid enough to answer an email from someone she doesn’t even know.

Clearly, both Parites need to realize that the 1984 Orwellian vision of Big Brother is the Internet and techonlogy.

They choose to be selective about what they ignore, but it’s going to bite them in the ass.

This is not a legal proceeding, dumbass, so any burden of proof is on Obama, since he’s the one running for office and who presumably would want our votes. Oh, silly old me, I forgot, Donna, Dean and Obama don’t want our votes.

oh no no no no no honey..it was Donna Brazile in the capacity of the dnc who stole my vote in Fla…and Dean and Obama..all gtied togetgher..you may be stupid and naive..but i worked on getting the voting machines removed from florida and the bill that removed them with no damn help from dean or Donna..or anyone at the DNc or dem party..go sell your bullshit elsewhere..

oh and it was my hubby and i who helped pay ( the biggest amount) for an audit of our DRE machines..only to have the state auditor sit here for 2 days and amdit that no audit was possible…

oh and the four people who got the bill before our state congress just got the highest award given in the state of Florida by the ACLU…

that was the very bill the republicans attached the amendment to change the primary date..

and how did Dean and Brazile award the citizens of florida..unlike the aclu..they stole our votes!

so go stick it …I have paid dearly to have our votes count here in Florida both with work on the ground and financially..only to see Dean Brazile and Obama now steal my minority families votes!

go away…

I know damn well what Donna Brazile has done to the voters of the democratic party..so save your bullshit for someone who doesn’t know better or is as ignorant as you are ..it won’t sell with me baby!!

fly

I didn’t. I called Jason a prick. Why ever would you think I meant you? My reply was clearly posted under Jason’s comment. What I called you was a dumbass (see above).

Yes, Richardson is bilingual (he grew up in Mexico City) and he is–or was*–very popular here in New Mexico.

*Don’t know how well known he is to non-New Mexican Hispanics, though, or how much his presidential run and/or his endorsement of Obama may have hurt him here in La Tierra Encantada.

Ok, you’re just being ridiculous. Obviously you didn’t even read my response. Hitler was a vegatarian, and I like vegatables, so according to your warped logic, I must have thought the holocaust was a good idea! Do you know how stupid you sound?

Don’t whine. It’s so unattractive in an Obamabot.

He has to PROVE he’s not a criminal and a traitor to our country? That doesn’t seem too fair to me. And don’t call me dumbass. I’m not calling you names, and when you do that, you only prove that you have nothing of true substance to say anyway.

Yes, yes, yes…we know. The Obamarhoids don’t need typical white people, the working class, the Italian Garlic-noses, the Catholics, the seniors or Jewish votes. Good luck with winning with the AA and young votes ONLY. That’s all you have left. LOSER. Go back to your orange padded cell.

Yeah Messy….He ( Cooheaded ) also said that He had read his history and agreed with Pastor Wright…..He still has not looked up Eugenics….I think he is having a screaming Left/brain…Right/brain conflict with all this heavy thinking…..Of Course I’m just quotin the rev. Wright…

Hey, let’s talk shit about people who don’t agree with us instead of actually trying to engage in a spirited discussion about issues that will change the course of our country! What a great idea! And then we can all feel better about ourselves!

I think you are correct mimi…It does describe typical alcholic behavior and the egotism….The alchoholic is like a tornado…..

You’ve clearly ignored the content of my post. I think you have a problem with READING AND COMPREHENDING! But go ahead and keep lying about what I said. Apparantly that’s all it takes to convince people of anything around here!

Outside of Mexican-Americans I can ASSURE you other Latinos don’t give a rat’s ass about Richardson and in fact despise him as a traitor.

Kathy…Hillary Clinton is not someone you need to fret over….
That woman is 10 ft. tall and Bullet Proof….She is one of the most gifted politicians in a generation….She will be fine….

I registered to be a DEMOCRAT in 1973 and have NEVER voted for ANY Republican, EVER. I detest them.

Thank yourself for my leaving the party. It’s assholes like you and all your other little mindless trolls that made me a Hillary supporter. You people had the nerve to call Bill and Hillary Clinton RACISTS. Two people who have spent most of their lives fighting for civil rights are RACISTS, according to Obamarhoids. Kiss my typical white ass. I am so finished with the Democratic Party. I can’t wait to see your boy go down in flames.

ROTFLMAO!

Stuff a sock in it along with your condescending remarks.

If we’re worse than Kos, GO BACK THERE! Why do you people come here? You’re obnoxious. Most Obamarhoids WOULD jump off a cliff for him. That’s the point. Now, why don’t you go back to the orange nut house where you’re wanted.

Yes, she did call me a prick. Its the typical response here, they can’t make valid arguments on the facts so they just throw around insults.

This is why I’m a prick:

Obama is neither a criminal nor a traitor and has not been exposed as such … He isn’t a traitor. Hillary isn’t a traitor.

Clearly I’m a prick.

Mr. Hope will change the course of our country alright! Auchi, Rezko, Wright, Farrakhan ring a bell?

MessyMarcy, how about we just kick Obama (who isn’t a Dem anyway), Dean and that lot OUT of the Democratic Party?

They can start a new party–or join the Republicans where they really belong anyway.

If you change party affiliation, and choose your candidate based off anonymous blog messages then you aren’t mature enough to be voting anyway.

Thanks Susan,

It’s a mockery to attribute racism to the terms Eggheads and African Americans. Has it come down to this?

But with a name like Beezlebud, he makes no secret about the pitchfork he’s trying to hide.

Um, where in my speaking to the RULES did I use “the condescending tone, the vitriolic, hate-spewing, toxic rhetoric” or call you a “delusional idiot”?

You spoke to the rules, and I listed the rules.

I spoke to your statement, didn’t call you any names, and all you come back with “you don’t play nice”? Responses like that validate any condescension afforded it.

And obviously you missed the reference to McGovern, or chose not to share your thoughts. Try Google or read back a post or two. McGovern got his ass handed to him in the GE, despite him being anointed in a Democratic CAUCUS-based primary system. If you miss the relevancy, it’s not our problem.

McGovern has too much ego and not enough smarts.

What your generation has done? I’m not sure what generation you are in but the last few have all done great things.

My generation created the wondrous devices you are now communicating on.

Denigrating the young doesn’t help you, except possibly to cover up your insecurities.

Just try to remember who is going to be paying for your retirement when you feel compelled to insult those younger than you.

I have an exactly opposite background than you Susan. Up until very recently I was a party loyalist. I voted Democratic regardless of who they put up there. Because to me the Republican Party was not a party of the people but a party of the elite.

I remember distinctly having huge arguments with environmentalist friends in 2000 about their support for Ralph Nader and the Green Party. They voted on principle and I voted party. We both lost.

When a Democrat I didn’t particularly like ran for a state office I still voted party line because to me the party meant everything.

I was proud of the legacy of such greats as FDR, JFK, LBJ and yes WJC. And up until very recently I had great respect for Jimmy Carter. Not for what he accomplished but for what he tried to accomplish.

At the start of this nomination process I was torn between many candidates. I liked Joe Biden’s solid foreign policy credentials. I thought that Bill Richardson had a great resume. I liked Chris Dodd’s passion. I loved John Edwards populist heart. But I fell for Hillary Clinton in a big way. She has the heart, the credentials, the resume, the passion and the strong leadership that we need so absolutely desperately in a President.

I never got Obama. I tried. I really did. But something about him always seemed so fake to me. He could speak well but I never saw what I would call honest passion in him. He could stir people up, but it was only because he could. I never sensed that he believed a thing he said himself. It was like he had discovered that he had a gift of moving people to do things but he was only interested in the power to move them and hadn’t quite thought out what it is that people really needed to do except get him elected.

I mean, it doesn’t make a bit of rational sense. This guy claims to represent a post racial politics but he belongs to a segregationalist church. And he calls his grandmother a typical white person. I mean considering the guy is half white his granny should have smacked the shit out of him. Maybe if she wasn’t so old she would have.

Then he claims to love this country and to be patriotic. And yet he is long time friends with declared enemies of our country. Terrorists. And at least half of the Democratic Party acts like it is no big deal. It’s a big deal to me.

I could go on and on about Obama. And have. But this is more than just about Obama. I feel as if the party I have been loyal to for decades has suddenly decided that I am no longer important or necessary. And I feel betrayed.

So I am no longer going to be a Democrat. And I look forward to the day when another party emerges that stands for real principles. Not just when it is convenient or expedient.

Hillary is still my gal. I honestly wish she would run as an Independent just to stick it to the Democratic party like they have stuck it to us.

I haven’t abandoned my party. But as Donna Brazile made quite evident it wasn’t my party to begin with.

What I thought was my party abandoned me.

I never understood Independents until I became one. Now I get it completely.

Exactly, Strawberrybitch and requiemforadancer.

My daughter will know and won’t forget. (May she, please God, never need an abortion.)
That said, I have held this back for too long. Women have been having abortions for thousands and thousands of years. In my mother’s day, a good doctor would perform a convenient D & C, long before Roe v Wade. The same will happen once again, shoudl Roe be overturned.
Will I feel horribly if we lose Roe? Absolutely, because all it will accomplish is a return to the days of dangerous abortions. Overturning Roe will not stop abortion, especially not for the moneyed elite.

speaktruth

I have to say this I LOVE YOU. I am going out of my mind, I donate money and bitch but still I feel like I am not doing any thing. This post gave me the hope that we are moving to do something concrete. Starting a call for a third party NOW is the most viable solution. I am sure convincing Hillary to run will be a big problem. But leaving the party in a big way is the most convincing action to those fool. They think we are bluffing. Set the membership fee on a sliding scale,and EVERY ONE has to work his/her ass off to get it off the ground. Real grass root. Please let us start now

yes and the Florida Citizens who fought for the bill to ban DRE voting machines in Fla and mandate Voter Verified Paper Ballots the very bill the republicans attached an amendment to change the primary date change to ..just recieved the highest award THE FLORIDA ACLU GIVES OUT!

The Fix is In..Bought and Sold..

I will Never Vote for a Pretender like Obama..
He should be running on His Own Ticket…call it something like SDS…or the “Axelrod” Party..

Well, you insulted me because I used the word “historically.” This is not the first time a primary has been decided by a delegate count. So, I believe what I said is accurate. As far as my statement about the toxic rhetoric, all you have to do is scroll up and down this page to see that. I think you are all involved in the same kind of mindless groupthink that you find at the pro-Obama blogs. Many people here have called me names, one in particular has been especially hateful. So, if you think you’re doing a service to your candidate by bashing anyone with an alternative viewpoint, you are sorely mistaken.

Here’s a little tidbit of information that you’ve so conveniently ignored when discussing the irrelevance of the caucus states: Obama has won just as many primaries as Clinton has. Nothing you can say will change that.

First- thanks so much to Susan and Larry- this place is where I can get the real news, unfiltered by the propaganda machine.
Second- This post is wonderful- Brazile and company think they can win without us- let them try.
I posted a diary on Mydd some time back about my loyalty first to America, not the party. I was sick to death of hearing about party unity. (Still there on my blog for any who are interested.)The bots called me a racist and a republican.
Their screeching sounds to me like a child having a temper tantrum. Endless arguing without listening to what the adults are saying.
I took my flag down in 2000 because of the machinations of the Republicans stealing the White House and it has remained carefully folded ever since. I thought I would be ably to proudly run Old Glory up the staff in November. Guess I better buy some more mothballs, cause if Obama is elected by way of stealing votes, Old Glory will stay folded away.
I wrote that up at my blog yesterday.
I trulu believe Obama is dangerous for America and I will actively campaign against him.

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Hear, Hear!!!

I rarely post-never enough time, but scan the comments here when I can. I live in Jacksonville, Fl. and we were getting Obama commercials on CNN a week before we voted.

I agree that the fix was in and I think Brazile had something to do with it, otherwise why take all of our delegates. Again, if he can’t win, he gets rid of the competition.

I believe that if they give him the nomination, they will wait a month for us to supposedly cool off and then ‘the one’ will roll out the charm offensive for us poor, dumb, old, white women.

problem: It won’t work.

Donna Brazille is just a horrid representative for the DNC not to mention all women. I cringe when I see her on TV. She has done more to damage her own reputation with her Obama worship than she did when managing Gore’s campaign.

I wonder if it is has even dawned on Dean that he should be looking over his shoulder for her when it comes to his job?

1. I never said caucus STATES were irrelevant.

2. I never said caucuses themselves were irrelevant.

3. I DID say that “historically” speaking, the guy who wanted the caucus, and was blindly supported by the party, OVER the will of the majority of primary voters, LOST BIG TIME.

That is not having an alternative viewpoint, that is fact.

If you want to see mindless groupthink, see the media coverage of Texas caucuses. I know. I was there. I saw it. And it was all Obama folk.

4. Of course, SINCE McGovern we have had the delegates to allow the MINORITY of Democrats decide who the nominee is, rather than who the majority of registered Democrats want as their pick. And again, I’m pointing out that the party elite picking our nominee over someone who has shown to win more votes from Democrats, the DEM nominee is going to LOSE BADLY. So you trying to use history as the basic of your argument shows the weakness of your argument for Obama.

5. I can’t control what others say on this site. I think NQ is a lot better than the other obamablobgs, because dissenting views like yours have a voice. That is, people don’t get banned or ganged up on by diary writers writing hit diaries. And if you know the history of this site, Larry has real reasons for backing Clinton, or at least being skeptical of Obama. Read up about that, please. So, after the other blogs became O-can-do-no-wrong-worship-sites, NQ and a couple others were all we Garlic Noses, TWP, bitter folk ended up here, because it was the only place to discuss our misgivings about Obama without being called racist or being outright banned. After awhile of being labeled all these things by Obama, his wife, his campaign, his surrogates, and his supporters that drop in to thumb their noses at us, you’re damn right we’re pissed. But please don’t say I’m calling you names or make general statements about the site in reference to me; start a new comment thread for that.

6. When speaking of those primaries, and especially considering Obama’s pushing for Dems For A Day (DFAD), do you honestly believe they will NOT vote for McCain in November?

Flyarm there is so much Irony in that Floridians were attempting to fix the voting machines and got screwed by another machine….And the DNC is brain dead.

I am sure it it is not lost on the Floridians. for 12 years in a row…

Like the GUY says in Fourth of July….

to the DNC “UP YOURS”

Actually if Roe gets overturned she can just come to NY and get a legal abortion.

Overturning Roe doesn’t make it illegal, it just means its up to each state to deal with it or possibly allows the federal government to pass a law one way or the other (although s ct could easily find congress doesn’t have the power to pass such a law).

[Not that I want it to get overturned, I certainly don't]

Geezus “Itsnotme.” You are a Goddess of words and can speak for me.

I’m done with them as well. What we need is a ….

THIRD PARTY CANDIDATE!!!!

HILL YOU IN?

(and I wondered what would happen if Al Gore descended from the clouds to run as a 3rd party candidate naming Hillary as his VP.)

Thanks.
:O)
Does a master list exist with email addresses?

mimi — I don’t think Brazile is cocky — I think its just the opposite. Brazile has convinced Dean that a new coalition of Democrats is out there and they can toss their base under a bus. But she is not sure of herself and she is not that smart. If she is wrong she will be responsible for a debacle in the Democratic Party which will destroy it. Or maybe thats the agenda. At stake are the American people who they fear angering and the wild card Hillary Clinton, who will not go along with this.

A couple of months ago I heard her say that she would rather hang with Republicans than Democrats. I wonder who Donna is really working for–but then I have wondered who Obama is really working for. I think her attacks on White workers and Hispanics which has been echoed by Howard Dean, David Axelrod and Obama himself says it all — these people do not stand for the ideals of the Democratic Party. Then we have the statement by Amanda Powers, former Foreign Policy Advisor to Obama saying that he is uncomfortable with so many elections — he feels it confuses people and he would like to see less elections.

In my opinion–these people want to destroy the Democratic Party and preach Unity which means that we all stand together and support one President. And where does Bloomberg fit into all this? Haven’t heard much lately about Bloomberg’s Unity Party to which every candidate had to pledge–or he would get in the race himself. There is a bigger picture here. Something is brewing for top Democrats to say we don’t need the Hispanic vote or that of white workers. If you notice in all Hillary’s speeches she stresses that she is for all Americans. I pray she runs as an Independent. She could stop this.

saliort — You got this covered. Great Post.

mimi — YOU GO GIRL ^5 ^5

The Democratic base is the Democratic Party. Seems to me I remember — Obama was into

Tch…tch…tch….fascists can be soooo……touchy…LOL

i would love to post the ACLU press release..but don’t want the people involved harrassed by the obamabots..

yes Teak… the irony… though, is not being lost on Fla voters..the anger increases daily!! By very loyal hard working democrats..where i am and i was a delegate for a very large county here in Fla..and run a large internet group here in Fla.

there is no way Obama will ever get their votes..never!!..maybe the rest of the country doesn’t know the whole story..but i assure you ..the dems here damn well do!

fly

It seems like Obama is building or had been already successful in building Black Coalition based on his church code. Time and time again, he’s been winning with black community only plus the mesmerized kids who got no reason why they’re voting for him. Pres. Bill Clinton is right, Obama is using a race card here. And this is a downfall for Obama and the party that I love.
Hopefully, Hillary will go independent since the party she’s in doesn’t show neutrality even in the beginning, and not sitting the delegates from Michigan and Florida. She should be the presidential nominee!

I am in agreement with those who say they feel letdown by the Democratic Party, it has become a sad parody of itself.

However, I would urge all of you have said they will vote for McCain over Obama, DON’T DO IT. Remember who he represents, if you want to vote a protest vote, write in Hillary or vote for the Greens or someone else. Don’t give those lousy Repblicans your vote, they have trashed our country, spit on the Bill of Rights and used the Constitution as toilet paper. DON’T EVER LEGITIMIZE THOSE BASTARDS

whew! I feel much better

I will vote – I will vote for Hillary, even if I have to write her in on the ballot in November.

That had never occurred to me. I’ve been assuming that the superannuated frat rats of the M$M [or the Corporate Holodeck Media, as I like to call them] were just favoring Obama over Clinton because they are more sexist than they are racist, but would support their beloved McSame in the general election race.

I hadn’t thought that maybe enough members of the misruling class are smart enough to see that they’re actually better off with moderately conservative Democrats than demented far-right Republicans [or Elephascists, as I like to call the GOP], and so might direct their house slaves in the M$M to favor Obama over even McSame.

So why should the MSM support McCain, who can be counted on to see things their way only 95% of the time, when Obama will do whatever they want 100% of the time?

The press will even tell you why they like him: access.

They love to be considered “insiders” and in on the “scoop”.

Been like that for about 20 years. They’re not sacrificing him, as no other politico gives them such front row seats.

The question is: how do we organize to oust Brazile?

Gently, as she can play 3 cards.

1. She’s Black.
2. She’s Catholic.
3. She’s a Lesbian.

Now you know why she’s so smug (and can get away with some clearly unprofessional emails, that would sink other careers).

Cubans tend to vote Republican anyway.

I started to respond….
NO FEEDING THE TROLLS

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