Comments on: “Freedom’s Just Another Word…” http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/24641/freedoms-just-another-word/ Sun, 27 May 2012 07:03:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.4 By: While Obama Continues to Erect Roadblocks, Congress Presses to End “Don’t Ask Don’t Tell” Policy : NO QUARTER http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/24641/freedoms-just-another-word/#comment-1236384 While Obama Continues to Erect Roadblocks, Congress Presses to End “Don’t Ask Don’t Tell” Policy : NO QUARTER Thu, 30 Jul 2009 18:33:43 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=24641#comment-1236384 [...] This section from “Passing the Buck,” exposes the real Obama: Once again, Obama has found a way to NOT let the buck stop with him - he is proving to be quite adept at finding a way to not take a stand on stands he has previously taken. I know - it makes my head hurt, too, but that’s the reality of it. The title of this article really says it all: Obama Avoids Test on Gays in Military. Uh, yeah. You may recall that I wrote just recently about the Army Arabic linguist, Lt. Dan Choi, and his plea to Obama to not fire him from the Army (“Freedom’s Just Another Word…”). [...] [...] This section from “Passing the Buck,” exposes the real Obama: Once again, Obama has found a way to NOT let the buck stop with him – he is proving to be quite adept at finding a way to not take a stand on stands he has previously taken. I know – it makes my head hurt, too, but that’s the reality of it. The title of this article really says it all: Obama Avoids Test on Gays in Military. Uh, yeah. You may recall that I wrote just recently about the Army Arabic linguist, Lt. Dan Choi, and his plea to Obama to not fire him from the Army (“Freedom’s Just Another Word…”). [...]

]]> By: Passing The Buck… : NO QUARTER http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/24641/freedoms-just-another-word/#comment-1206878 Passing The Buck… : NO QUARTER Wed, 20 May 2009 14:01:07 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=24641#comment-1206878 [...] Once again, Obama has found a way to NOT let the buck stop with him - he is proving to be quite adept at finding a way to not take a stand on stands he has previously taken. I know - it makes my head hurt, too, but that’s the reality of it. The title of this article really says it all: Obama Avoids Test on Gays in Military. Uh, yeah. You may recall that I wrote just recently about the Army Arabic linguist, Lt. Dan Choi, and his plea to Obama to not fire him from the Army (“Freedom’s Just Another Word…”). [...] [...] Once again, Obama has found a way to NOT let the buck stop with him – he is proving to be quite adept at finding a way to not take a stand on stands he has previously taken. I know – it makes my head hurt, too, but that’s the reality of it. The title of this article really says it all: Obama Avoids Test on Gays in Military. Uh, yeah. You may recall that I wrote just recently about the Army Arabic linguist, Lt. Dan Choi, and his plea to Obama to not fire him from the Army (“Freedom’s Just Another Word…”). [...]

]]> By: Portia Elizabeth http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/24641/freedoms-just-another-word/#comment-1205701 Portia Elizabeth Sat, 16 May 2009 22:57:23 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=24641#comment-1205701 this is just one more outrage and insult to our country. I feel so sorry for this fine young officer whose greatest desire is to serve his country. Even Jon Stewart on The Daily Show gets it, This week he had a segment mocking our govt.s decision to eliminate one our most valuable assets in the Iraqi war. We will remember... this is just one more outrage and insult to our country. I feel so sorry for this fine young officer whose greatest desire is to serve his country.

Even Jon Stewart on The Daily Show gets it, This week he had a segment mocking our govt.s decision to eliminate one our most valuable assets in the Iraqi war.

We will remember…

]]> By: foxyladi14 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/24641/freedoms-just-another-word/#comment-1205690 foxyladi14 Sat, 16 May 2009 22:35:32 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=24641#comment-1205690 cheers for you Amy.. cheers for you Amy..

]]> By: Mr.Murder http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/24641/freedoms-just-another-word/#comment-1205666 Mr.Murder Sat, 16 May 2009 21:54:15 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=24641#comment-1205666 The man's skills can save the lives of fellow members of the world community. He can especially help save the lives of Americans in NGO or relief work, merchant marines, soldiers or sailors on the field. This is an outrage. Certainly Larry VIPFS can make a statement in support of the man. Lawyer him up, that would even mean perhaps a call to the ACLU. No wonder they want to renew tribunals, (anything to avoid liability in this or other courts....) The man’s skills can save the lives of fellow members of the world community. He can especially help save the lives of Americans in NGO or relief work, merchant marines, soldiers or sailors on the field.

This is an outrage. Certainly Larry VIPFS can make a statement in support of the man. Lawyer him up, that would even mean perhaps a call to the ACLU. No wonder they want to renew tribunals, (anything to avoid liability in this or other courts….)

]]> By: arran http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/24641/freedoms-just-another-word/#comment-1205606 arran Sat, 16 May 2009 19:28:10 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=24641#comment-1205606 I feel less safe without this infantry officer and West Point graduate with a degree in Arabic serving in the Army. His firing is foolish, foolish, foolish. I feel less safe without this infantry officer and West Point graduate with a degree in Arabic serving in the Army.

His firing is foolish, foolish, foolish.

]]> By: CG http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/24641/freedoms-just-another-word/#comment-1205590 CG Sat, 16 May 2009 18:44:41 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=24641#comment-1205590 Thanks Amy for sharing the video and letter of Lt. Choi. It's a good thing he is going to fight to end the discrimination for those who honorably serve their country. The very people who elected Obama, the majority of them, are of the thinking that there should be no tolerance for intolerance, that discrimination should be a thing of the past with the election of this black man; they gave Obama a free pass and made him the poster child to represent a new way past the errors of previous generations with regards to racial and GBLT issues. Obama is such a jerk, and is no leader for anyone. It is time for those that voted for Obama to make that purpose meaningful and assert some pressure on him. Thanks Amy for sharing the video and letter of Lt. Choi. It’s a good thing he is going to fight to end the discrimination for those who honorably serve their country. The very people who elected Obama, the majority of them, are of the thinking that there should be no tolerance for intolerance, that discrimination should be a thing of the past with the election of this black man; they gave Obama a free pass and made him the poster child to represent a new way past the errors of previous generations with regards to racial and GBLT issues. Obama is such a jerk, and is no leader for anyone. It is time for those that voted for Obama to make that purpose meaningful and assert some pressure on him.

]]> By: candymarl http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/24641/freedoms-just-another-word/#comment-1205576 candymarl Sat, 16 May 2009 17:46:03 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=24641#comment-1205576 Agreed RRRA. Yes, let's get rid of some of our best and brightest because we don't like who they are. Sigh. Agreed RRRA. Yes, let’s get rid of some of our best and brightest because we don’t like who they are.

Sigh.

]]> By: Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/24641/freedoms-just-another-word/#comment-1205569 Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Sat, 16 May 2009 17:32:41 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=24641#comment-1205569 They have fired a number of Arabic linguists since the Iraqi invasion under DADT. Not just pathetic, but STUPID. They have fired a number of Arabic linguists since the Iraqi invasion under DADT. Not just pathetic, but STUPID.

]]> By: OMG http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/24641/freedoms-just-another-word/#comment-1205567 OMG Sat, 16 May 2009 17:28:49 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=24641#comment-1205567 This is just pathetic but no surprise. Firing this linguist is their loss. This is just pathetic but no surprise. Firing this linguist is their loss.

]]> By: Animal Control http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/24641/freedoms-just-another-word/#comment-1205564 Animal Control Sat, 16 May 2009 17:21:42 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=24641#comment-1205564 <blockquote>The answer lies in the fact that there are two types of laws: just and unjust.</blockquote> What a great way using common sense. In the military they would say "there are two types of orders: legal and illegal" It's for us to fight "the just fight" and not "just to fight"

The answer lies in the fact that there are two types of laws: just and unjust.

What a great way using common sense. In the military they would say “there are two types of orders: legal and illegal”

It’s for us to fight “the just fight” and not “just to fight”

]]> By: Animal Control http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/24641/freedoms-just-another-word/#comment-1205561 Animal Control Sat, 16 May 2009 17:15:34 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=24641#comment-1205561 They have lost touch with the country<blockquote></blockquote> I'ts been a while They have lost touch with the country

I’ts been a while

]]> By: Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/24641/freedoms-just-another-word/#comment-1205523 Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Sat, 16 May 2009 15:33:15 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=24641#comment-1205523 Thank you for this, jbjd - perfect. And I agree abt the Dems and lemmings, too... Thank you for this, jbjd – perfect.

And I agree abt the Dems and lemmings, too…

]]> By: jbjd http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/24641/freedoms-just-another-word/#comment-1205521 jbjd Sat, 16 May 2009 15:31:10 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=24641#comment-1205521 In his "Letter from a Birmingham Jail," Rev. Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. wrote: <blockquote>... You express a great deal of anxiety over our willingness to break laws. This is certainly a legitimate concern. Since we so diligently urge people to obey the Supreme Court's decision of 1954 outlawing segregation in the public schools, at first glance it may seem rather paradoxical for us consciously to break laws. One may ask: "How can you advocate breaking some laws and obeying others?" The answer lies in the fact that there are two types of laws: just and unjust. I would be the first to advocate obeying just laws. One has not only a legal but a moral responsibility to obey just laws. Conversely, one has a moral responsibility to disobey unjust laws. I would agree with St. Augustine that "an unjust law is no law at all." Now, what is the difference between the two? How does one determine whether a law is just or unjust? A just law is a man-made code that squares with the moral law or the law of God. An unjust law is a code that is out of Harmony with the moral law. To put it in the terms of St. Thomas Aquinas: An unjust law is a human law that is not rooted in eternal law and natural law. Any law that uplifts human personality is just. Any law that degrades human personality is unjust. All segregation statutes are unjust because segregation distorts the soul and damages the personality. It gives the segregator a false sense of superiority and the segregated a false sense of inferiority. Segregation, to use the terminology of the Jewish philosopher Martin Buber, substitutes an "I-it" relationship for an "I-thou" relationship and ends up relegating persons to the status of things. Hence segregation is not only politically, economically and sociologically unsound, it is morally wrong and sinful. Paul Tillich has said that sin is separation. Is not segregation an existential expression of man's tragic separation, his awful estrangement, his terrible sinfulness? Thus is it that I can urge men to obey the 1954 decision of the Supreme Court, for it is morally right; and I can urge them to disobey segregation ordinances, for they are morally wrong. ... I submit that an individual who breaks a law that conscience tells him is unjust, and willingly accepts the penalty by staying in jail in order to arouse the conscience of the community over its injustice, is in reality expressing the very highest respect for the law. http://www.stanford.edu/group/King/frequentdocs/birmingham.pdf</blockquote> In other words, break an unjust law - and certainly, the governmental policy of 'don't ask, don't tell' is unjust, failing to reach even the minimum standard of "rational basis" - but don't expect not to suffer the consequences. In his “Letter from a Birmingham Jail,” Rev. Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. wrote:

…
You express a great deal of anxiety over our willingness to break laws. This is certainly a legitimate concern. Since we so diligently urge people to obey the Supreme Court’s decision of 1954 outlawing segregation in the public schools, at first glance it may seem rather paradoxical for us consciously to break laws. One may ask: “How can you advocate breaking some laws and obeying others?” The answer lies in the fact that there are two types of laws: just and unjust. I would be the first to advocate obeying just laws. One has not only a legal but a moral responsibility to obey just laws. Conversely, one has a moral responsibility to disobey unjust laws. I would agree with St. Augustine that “an unjust law is no law at all.”

Now, what is the difference between the two? How does one determine whether a law is just or unjust? A just law is a man-made code that squares with the moral law or the law of God. An unjust law is a code that is out of Harmony with the moral law. To put it in the terms of St. Thomas Aquinas: An unjust law is a human law that is not rooted in eternal law and natural law. Any law that uplifts human personality is just. Any law that degrades human personality is unjust. All segregation statutes are unjust because segregation distorts the soul and damages the personality. It gives the segregator a false sense of superiority and the segregated a false sense of inferiority. Segregation, to use the terminology of the Jewish philosopher Martin Buber, substitutes an “I-it” relationship for an “I-thou” relationship and ends up relegating persons to the status of things. Hence segregation is not only politically, economically and sociologically unsound, it is morally wrong and sinful. Paul Tillich has said that sin is separation. Is not segregation an existential expression of man’s tragic separation, his awful estrangement, his terrible sinfulness? Thus is it that I can urge men to obey the 1954 decision of the Supreme Court, for it is morally right; and I can urge them to disobey segregation ordinances, for they are morally wrong.
…
I submit that an individual who breaks a law that conscience tells him is unjust, and willingly accepts the penalty by staying in jail in order to arouse the conscience of the community over its injustice, is in reality expressing the very highest respect for the law.
http://www.stanford.edu/group/King/frequentdocs/birmingham.pdf

In other words, break an unjust law – and certainly, the governmental policy of ‘don’t ask, don’t tell’ is unjust, failing to reach even the minimum standard of “rational basis” – but don’t expect not to suffer the consequences.

]]> By: J S Ruby http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/24641/freedoms-just-another-word/#comment-1205519 J S Ruby Sat, 16 May 2009 15:25:30 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=24641#comment-1205519 If it wasn't for the lemming like Dems in the congress we might be facing a better situation even with BO in the WH. There is nothing that says that they have to vote for everything he wants. They have lost touch with the country. If it wasn’t for the lemming like Dems in the congress we might be facing a better situation even with BO in the WH. There is nothing that says that they have to vote for everything he wants. They have lost touch with the country.

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