Comments on: The CIA, America’s Scapegoat http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/24672/the-cia-americas-scapegoat/ Sun, 27 May 2012 07:03:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.4 By: The Disseminating Machine http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/24672/the-cia-americas-scapegoat/#comment-1217943 The Disseminating Machine Sun, 14 Jun 2009 23:28:55 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=24672#comment-1217943 The CIA causes a lot of trouble. _______________ SCANDAL! SCANDAL! SCANDAL! EMERGENCY! EMERGENCY! EMERGENCY! George W. Bush continuously criminally stalked Margie Schoedinger to the point that she could not get away from it, and she committed suicide in desperation to escape: he murdered her. “In her suit, Margie Schoedinger states that George W. Bush committed sexual crimes against her, organized harassment and moral pressure on her, her family members and close relatives and friends. As Schoedinger said, she was strongly recommended to keep her mouth shut. . . . Furthermore, she alleges that George Bush ordered to show pressure on her to the point, when she commits suicide” (blog of drizzten). “One of those ‘very leasts’ [was] George Bush’s personal complicity in the death (murder to be precise) of my friend Margie Schoedinger in September of 2003. Determining the exact whereabouts and contacts of [then] president-elect George Bush on September 21 thru 22, 2003, should be entirely lacking in difficulty” (Leola McConnell—Nevada Progressive Democratic Candidate for U.S. Senate in 2010). Leola McConnell is correct: Bush applying pressure (continuously criminally stalking Margie Schoedinger) purposefully to force Schoedinger to commit suicide does in fact constitute murder where it culminated in her death. BEWARE: If the president of the United States hates one—for whatever reasons—he can continuously criminally stalk one to the point that one cannot get away from it, and one ultimately commits suicide in desperation to escape. He can murder people in this way. Bush is getting away with his murder of Schoedinger—with no sheriff, prosecutor, or court willing to uphold the rule of law. Bush’s method of murdering Schoedinger cannot exist in a vacuum: he must have murdered other people in the same way. Bush should confess, come out with the names of all of the people whom he murdered in the disgusting way he murdered Schoedinger, undergo execution, and accordingly find himself at the intersection where he would be free. (There are thousands of copies of the information above on the Internet. It exists very extensively in all major search engines. Please feel free to go to any major search engine, type “George W. Bush continuously criminally stalked Margie Schoedinger to the point that she could not get away from it, and she committed suicide in desperation to escape: he murdered her,” hit “Enter,” and find innumerable results.) _______________ Andrew Wang (a.k.a. “THE DISSEMINATING MACHINE”) B.S., Summa Cum Laude, 1996 Messiah College, Grantham, PA Lower Merion High School, Ardmore, PA, 1993 The CIA causes a lot of trouble.
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SCANDAL! SCANDAL! SCANDAL!

EMERGENCY! EMERGENCY! EMERGENCY!

George W. Bush continuously criminally stalked Margie Schoedinger to the point that she could not get away from it, and she committed suicide in desperation to escape: he murdered her.

“In her suit, Margie Schoedinger states that George W. Bush committed sexual crimes against her, organized harassment and moral pressure on her, her family members and close relatives and friends. As Schoedinger said, she was strongly recommended to keep her mouth shut. . . . Furthermore, she alleges that George Bush ordered to show pressure on her to the point, when she commits suicide” (blog of drizzten).

“One of those ‘very leasts’ [was] George Bush’s personal complicity in the death (murder to be precise) of my friend Margie Schoedinger in September of 2003. Determining the exact whereabouts and contacts of [then] president-elect George Bush on September 21 thru 22, 2003, should be entirely lacking in difficulty” (Leola McConnell—Nevada Progressive Democratic Candidate for U.S. Senate in 2010).

Leola McConnell is correct: Bush applying pressure (continuously criminally stalking Margie Schoedinger) purposefully to force Schoedinger to commit suicide does in fact constitute murder where it culminated in her death.

BEWARE: If the president of the United States hates one—for whatever reasons—he can continuously criminally stalk one to the point that one cannot get away from it, and one ultimately commits suicide in desperation to escape. He can murder people in this way.

Bush is getting away with his murder of Schoedinger—with no sheriff, prosecutor, or court willing to uphold the rule of law.

Bush’s method of murdering Schoedinger cannot exist in a vacuum: he must have murdered other people in the same way.

Bush should confess, come out with the names of all of the people whom he murdered in the disgusting way he murdered Schoedinger, undergo execution, and accordingly find himself at the intersection where he would be free.

(There are thousands of copies of the information above on the Internet. It exists very extensively in all major search engines. Please feel free to go to any major search engine, type “George W. Bush continuously criminally stalked Margie Schoedinger to the point that she could not get away from it, and she committed suicide in desperation to escape: he murdered her,” hit “Enter,” and find innumerable results.)
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Andrew Wang
(a.k.a. “THE DISSEMINATING MACHINE”)
B.S., Summa Cum Laude, 1996
Messiah College, Grantham, PA
Lower Merion High School, Ardmore, PA, 1993

]]> By: CentralMAss http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/24672/the-cia-americas-scapegoat/#comment-1205917 CentralMAss Sun, 17 May 2009 13:17:11 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=24672#comment-1205917 It is time our government enforced the rule of law. Anyone who has broken it should be presecuted to the fullest extent of the law. Their party affiliation is irrelevant. It is time our government enforced the rule of law. Anyone who has broken it should be presecuted to the fullest extent of the law. Their party affiliation is irrelevant.

]]> By: CentralMAss http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/24672/the-cia-americas-scapegoat/#comment-1205807 CentralMAss Sun, 17 May 2009 03:49:08 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=24672#comment-1205807 Only if they do not uphold the law. Only if they do not uphold the law.

]]> By: SiliconDoc http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/24672/the-cia-americas-scapegoat/#comment-1205715 SiliconDoc Sat, 16 May 2009 23:31:15 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=24672#comment-1205715 I have listened to thirty years of the democrats blaming the cia for everything, and the Church Commission is an excellent case in point for the starting of the public wailing and moaning. The problem today is the government is huge, and the analysts and ops have opposite stories to tell, all the time. The analysts who go one way, fight with those who go the other, and whichever side is against the percieved desire of any current administration takes on one big fat chip on the shoulder. I've read the pertinent NIE's, pre and post Bush, pre and post Iraq war, and the answer and conclusion I've made was not a difficult one to arrive at. I suggest others do the same. I have listened to thirty years of the democrats blaming the cia for everything, and the Church Commission is an excellent case in point for the starting of the public wailing and moaning.
The problem today is the government is huge, and the analysts and ops have opposite stories to tell, all the time. The analysts who go one way, fight with those who go the other, and whichever side is against the percieved desire of any current administration takes on one big fat chip on the shoulder.
I’ve read the pertinent NIE’s, pre and post Bush, pre and post Iraq war, and the answer and conclusion I’ve made was not a difficult one to arrive at.
I suggest others do the same.

]]> By: jimbob http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/24672/the-cia-americas-scapegoat/#comment-1205704 jimbob Sat, 16 May 2009 23:02:27 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=24672#comment-1205704 Now is the time for all patriotic Democrats to stand up to the radical left and STOP the blame Bush kangaroo court and gallows that Pelosi, Conyers, and Obama are preparing. The left is going to destroy this country by installing their union thugs in the boardrooms of GM, GE, and NBC. I will not be surprised if they take down moderate Democrats including all the former Clinton people. Democrats must protect their fellow countrymen even those who call themselves Republicans. Stop the political games with national security; stop the Stalinist show trials; stop the union takeover of corporations and the union/government monopolies that will ensue. Do it now before your country is lost. Now is the time for all patriotic Democrats to stand up to the radical left and STOP the blame Bush kangaroo court and gallows that Pelosi, Conyers, and Obama are preparing. The left is going to destroy this country by installing their union thugs in the boardrooms of GM, GE, and NBC. I will not be surprised if they take down moderate Democrats including all the former Clinton people. Democrats must protect their fellow countrymen even those who call themselves Republicans. Stop the political games with national security; stop the Stalinist show trials; stop the union takeover of corporations and the union/government monopolies that will ensue. Do it now before your country is lost.

]]> By: Mr.Murder http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/24672/the-cia-americas-scapegoat/#comment-1205686 Mr.Murder Sat, 16 May 2009 22:33:44 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=24672#comment-1205686 *notes wrong **passing reference ***press secretary At least the Hon. fmr. Sen.Graham spells better than I can type. *notes wrong
**passing reference
***press secretary

At least the Hon. fmr. Sen.Graham spells better than I can type.

]]> By: Mr.Murder http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/24672/the-cia-americas-scapegoat/#comment-1205685 Mr.Murder Sat, 16 May 2009 22:31:35 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=24672#comment-1205685 It turns out the CIA got its notes wriong recently when compared to notes taken by Sen.Graham as he recalled his own experience with the briefings. Now, was the CIA telling the Senate INTEL one thing and the House another? Why would they do that? The story mentions Karl Rove and Dick Cheney in a apssing reference. Certainly the CIA doesn't have them speak for it? Why was the White House using a press ecretary and the OVP to reshape what the CIA told them and present that to Congress? It turns out the CIA got its notes wriong recently when compared to notes taken by Sen.Graham as he recalled his own experience with the briefings.

Now, was the CIA telling the Senate INTEL one thing and the House another?

Why would they do that?

The story mentions Karl Rove and Dick Cheney in a apssing reference. Certainly the CIA doesn’t have them speak for it?

Why was the White House using a press ecretary and the OVP to reshape what the CIA told them and present that to Congress?

]]> By: Mr.Murder http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/24672/the-cia-americas-scapegoat/#comment-1205683 Mr.Murder Sat, 16 May 2009 22:28:21 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=24672#comment-1205683 *test The blog ate my post. Very spooky.... *test

The blog ate my post. Very spooky….

]]> By: listing starboard http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/24672/the-cia-americas-scapegoat/#comment-1205623 listing starboard Sat, 16 May 2009 19:52:31 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=24672#comment-1205623 Pelosi will get away with her lying. It is obvious that Obama and his administration will get away with destroying this country. Pelosi will get away with her lying. It is obvious that Obama and his administration will get away with destroying this country.

]]> By: jimbob http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/24672/the-cia-americas-scapegoat/#comment-1205586 jimbob Sat, 16 May 2009 18:16:01 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=24672#comment-1205586 Larry, this is an interesting piece you wrote. I only have one or two problems with it: 1. Captured terrorists had no constitutional rights to due process in 2002. (They might now since the Supreme Court has overruled itself on these matters in the Boumedienne case) In fact, since they were not in uniform, the Geneva Convention does not apply to them either. 2. You consistently frame the matter of torture of detainees as an effort to convince the public that we needed to go to war with Iraq. You state, "the impetus for the waterboarding of Zubaydah was not preventing terrorism, it was an effort to prove the false premise that Saddam and Bin Laden were in cahoots." Larry, was it not remotely possible that messers Bush and Cheney did not know whether Saddam and Bin Laden were in cahoots, and their efforts (like waterboarding) were simply conducted to find out if they were? Bush and Cheney did not make ANY premise. They wanted to know if there was an operational link. It seems to me that all of the evidence Democrats have gathered to prove the illegality of the Bush administration's conduct can be explained by this one simple and straightfoward explanation: GW Bush and Dick Cheney did what they thought they had to do because they refused to take the gamble that Saddam did not have WMD. In short, you have not proven that Bush and Cheney waterboarded Zubaydah and others in order to prove that Saddam and Al Qaeda were "in cahoots." And you most certainly have not proven that they did not waterboard Zubaydah to prevent terrorism because they may have believed that Zubaydah had information to prove the Saddam/Bin Laden connection. And there is this consideration: We know NOW that Saddam did not have stockpiles of WMD. That is true. But Saddam could have handed Al Queda ONE SINGLE cannister of poison gas, and Al Queda might have on ONE occaision dropped that cannister over an American city resulting in the deaths of hundreds of thousands of Americans. We do know that Saddam had at least a few serin gas cannisters left from the Iran/Iraq war. Bush and Cheney simply did not want to take that chance, but in any case, you will NEVER get a conviction of either one of them or anyone else in the government on any "war crimes" charge simply because their intentions were honest. And THAT my friend, is the truth, and you know it. Larry, this is an interesting piece you wrote. I only have one or two problems with it: 1. Captured terrorists had no constitutional rights to due process in 2002. (They might now since the Supreme Court has overruled itself on these matters in the Boumedienne case) In fact, since they were not in uniform, the Geneva Convention does not apply to them either. 2. You consistently frame the matter of torture of detainees as an effort to convince the public that we needed to go to war with Iraq. You state, “the impetus for the waterboarding of Zubaydah was not preventing terrorism, it was an effort to prove the false premise that Saddam and Bin Laden were in cahoots.” Larry, was it not remotely possible that messers Bush and Cheney did not know whether Saddam and Bin Laden were in cahoots, and their efforts (like waterboarding) were simply conducted to find out if they were? Bush and Cheney did not make ANY premise. They wanted to know if there was an operational link. It seems to me that all of the evidence Democrats have gathered to prove the illegality of the Bush administration’s conduct can be explained by this one simple and straightfoward explanation: GW Bush and Dick Cheney did what they thought they had to do because they refused to take the gamble that Saddam did not have WMD. In short, you have not proven that Bush and Cheney waterboarded Zubaydah and others in order to prove that Saddam and Al Qaeda were “in cahoots.” And you most certainly have not proven that they did not waterboard Zubaydah to prevent terrorism because they may have believed that Zubaydah had information to prove the Saddam/Bin Laden connection. And there is this consideration: We know NOW that Saddam did not have stockpiles of WMD. That is true. But Saddam could have handed Al Queda ONE SINGLE cannister of poison gas, and Al Queda might have on ONE occaision dropped that cannister over an American city resulting in the deaths of hundreds of thousands of Americans. We do know that Saddam had at least a few serin gas cannisters left from the Iran/Iraq war. Bush and Cheney simply did not want to take that chance, but in any case, you will NEVER get a conviction of either one of them or anyone else in the government on any “war crimes” charge simply because their intentions were honest. And THAT my friend, is the truth, and you know it.

]]> By: Retired http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/24672/the-cia-americas-scapegoat/#comment-1205537 Retired Sat, 16 May 2009 16:09:18 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=24672#comment-1205537 Nancy backs down: Pelosi has now said that she only meant to criticize the Bush administration for lying, as opposed to the CIA careerists that briefed her. I guess that her staff must've reviewed the MFRs and told her that she was about to be revealed for the political whore that she is if she went forward with her "liar" accusation. Nancy backs down: Pelosi has now said that she only meant to criticize the Bush administration for lying, as opposed to the CIA careerists that briefed her. I guess that her staff must’ve reviewed the MFRs and told her that she was about to be revealed for the political whore that she is if she went forward with her “liar” accusation.

]]> By: Retired http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/24672/the-cia-americas-scapegoat/#comment-1205534 Retired Sat, 16 May 2009 16:00:29 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=24672#comment-1205534 If Ms. Pelosi truely believes that the CIA lied to Congress all the time, then it is time for her to put up or shut up with the American people. She should identify the liars by name and they should be allowed to defend themselves with their contemporaneous MFRs. The loser(s) should be stripped of their jobs and held in contempt by all Americans. Of course, this would require accountability, which just isn't in the program for our current crop of elected officials. Until 2010 at the earliest, that is. If Ms. Pelosi truely believes that the CIA lied to Congress all the time, then it is time for her to put up or shut up with the American people. She should identify the liars by name and they should be allowed to defend themselves with their contemporaneous MFRs. The loser(s) should be stripped of their jobs and held in contempt by all Americans.
Of course, this would require accountability, which just isn’t in the program for our current crop of elected officials. Until 2010 at the earliest, that is.

]]> By: Sonic Ninja Kitty http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/24672/the-cia-americas-scapegoat/#comment-1205518 Sonic Ninja Kitty Sat, 16 May 2009 15:24:50 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=24672#comment-1205518 PS--Include name of article, approximate time, and your posting name to help them find it quicker. PS–Include name of article, approximate time, and your posting name to help them find it quicker.

]]> By: Sonic Ninja Kitty http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/24672/the-cia-americas-scapegoat/#comment-1205517 Sonic Ninja Kitty Sat, 16 May 2009 15:20:55 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=24672#comment-1205517 Donjo--Long comments or those with some 'all caps' tend to get stuck in the spam filter. Just email Larry or Susan and they will retrieve it. (see under "contact us" for addresses) Donjo–Long comments or those with some ‘all caps’ tend to get stuck in the spam filter. Just email Larry or Susan and they will retrieve it. (see under “contact us” for addresses)

]]> By: Uppity Woman http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/24672/the-cia-americas-scapegoat/#comment-1205494 Uppity Woman Sat, 16 May 2009 11:51:12 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=24672#comment-1205494 They conspired with (fill in name) Clinton on this. They conspired with (fill in name) Clinton on this.

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