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By SusanUnPC on May 12, 2008 at 12:21 PM in Current Affairs

The hardest-hitting anti-Obama blog on the internet is published by a Democrat… Larry Johnson’s blog is raising eyebrows:

You will find some hard-hitting stuff about Obama over at No Quarters blog. No Quarters is operated by Democrat Larry Johnson, who has worked with the CIA and State Department on terrorism and money laundering issues. Recent posts: …

Larry is pleased. So are we all! We CAN make a difference. Now let’s roll up our sleeves and GET OUT OUR FINGERNAILS — we’ve got some dirt-diggin’ to do, folks! HERE’s HOW:

The prissy, “Oh I love Hillary” blogs ain’t gettin’ it done. The posts about Hillary on Mother’s Day are sweet, but don’t give her another single vote.

Let’s hit Obama Inc. where it hurts.

Ideas welcome! EXPRESS THEM BELOW!

GUEST POSTS ARE ALSO WELCOME.

(Caveat: Please, oh please, if you wish to write something for us, put it in a format that we can easily transfer into a blog post. Do the basic HTML code. If you need simple instructions on how to do it, e-mail me and I will explain that to you. It’s SO simple, but it makes our lives so much easier if you have a post that we can simply copy and paste and publish!)

A SUGGESTION: Some of the material out there against Obama tends to be arcane and complex. Do not get caught up in the minutae — keep it really simple! Dumb it down so it’s easy for all to understand!

orionATL

no quarter

you probably already know this but

at Rezko Watch there is an article by journalist evelyn pringle entitled “curtain time for obama – part 1″.

it ain’t short – 19 html pages.

part 2 is due out tommmorrow.

Dawnelle

I just emailed it to a dozen friends. It was on one of the last threads comments by a poster (I forget their name)

I’ve only gone through a few pages but it’s a possible fire hazard! For sure for po po BO.

Dawnelle

I’m sorry here is the link again

Susaninbosque

It has always seemed to me that Fitzgerald had a huge bucketfull of stuff that was coming into existence and there is a reason, a strong REASON for the MSM and the O gang to declare it’s over because dates are important here. (Needs to be before the next step beyond Rezko. I don’t know the places to check on this (someone on location in Chicago is the best) but I know there’s more to come. And it’s necessary to stick to the facts of what’s coming down the pike. Only the kinds of losers like Kerry and Kennedy and Pelosi could possibly want more company in their losers club.

Is it too red hot to follow the leads that suggest O is at least a bisexual and that would explain a lot of his relationships that don’t seem to be prudent…. not prudents cause they’re not prudent. Anybody have a good handle on this? It would sure explain Wright’s eruption now wouldn’t it?

And how to verify what we all suspect: that the money is not coming from lots of charmed college students but has been repackaged from the large amounts to look that way. There was something about the look of the interior of O’s headdquarters in Chicago (maybe on ABC – maybe a 60 minute thing) but when I saw it, I didn’t see happy busy election volunteers but PAID staff that were creating something that still seems very scary to me…. and yes, facsist does come to mind.

Not much help here but some topics…..

s. hall

I want to know who gave Obama 250 Million to run for the Presidency and if this money is connected to muslim organization. Cause I will never believe this all came from Moveon.org.

Nancy K

I think a lot of his money came from people like me and my husband. We are white, jewish, well educated professionals and we both are voting for Obama. You can do all the hate mongoring and race baiting you want and your canidate is still going to lose.

Ellen D.

I’ll take your white Jewish well-educated professionals and raise you three for Hillary.
http://therealistblogs.blogspot.com/ troy m

Damn it Nancy, take your meds, for God’s sake.
beebop

Not one of my Jewish friends (or my ex husgand) has ever used the term “Jewish” without a capital “J,” Nancy, so if you are a Jew, you are as respectful of your faith as Obama is of his nation.
beebop

Nancy:

“candidate” not canidate …
http://www.purplestatepundit.com/blog Purple State Pundit

Another Jew for Obama here. Glad to see I am not the only one on this site.

hammeringspammers

Are you a Jew for terrorism, too, or just a low information voter?

http://www.purplestatepundit.com/blog Purple State Pundit

Pretty highly informed, actually. I read at least 6 sources of news every day. I believe that Obama will make us safer by helping to restore our image around the world. George Bush is currently Osama bin Laden’s best recruiting tool…he uses hatred of Bush to drum up hatred of Americans and recruit people to carry out terrorist attacks. That’s why he chose to pop up right before the 2004 election, knowing it would help Bush by getting people to vote their fears. Obama, because of who he is and his approach to diplomacy, would make it harder for terrorist leaders to drum up hatred against the United States and recruit people to carry out terrorist attacks against us or our allies. So would Clinton, to some degree, although I think that the symbolic message Obama’s election would send to the world would make a bigger impact. I think that’s why he won the Democrats Abroad primaries so overwhelmingly. Either way, having a Democratic president who would make a break from Bush’s “bully the world” foreign policy would go a long way towards making us safer from terrorism, and that’s one of the reasons it’s important to me to elect a Democrat this year.

Lou

Ya think?
http://funny drkate

you think Obama is this person? roflmao!

Delia

Hey, you guys shouldn’t go making fun of low information voters. Susan’s explicitly asking you to court them in this thread. They seem to be your target audience, as well as Hillary’s. And the sort of ideas you’re tossing around seem a couple of steps below the verification level of the National Enquirer.

Lou

You’ll be sorry. Someone care to tell them why. Hint: Obama, Farakan, anti jews.

beebop

Ever wonder why Obama is so flush with money? It turns out that Penny Pritzker is running Obama’s finance campaign. She is a billionaire (inherited) and her and Obama’s families take vacations together at the billionaire’s summer vacation home.
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB120554763760338773.html?mod=special_page_campaign2008_leftbox
So much so for the Obamas’ poor boy/girl from the wrong side of the tracks image
Obama is self-imploding. Hard to see him as an agent of hope and change when in reality it is politics as usual. We have his Ad man strategist, David Axelrod, to thank for. He is so good at packaging mediocre candidates and we were fooled…and some are still fooled. Let’s sit back, relax and enjoy the Obama-Michelle-Rezko-Wright song-and-dance.

Dawnelle

It would explain MO’s bad attitude.

Perhaps she’s not getting any?
Just those 2 times to produce offspring to add to the “pretty picture” of an ALL AMERICAN FAMILY?

nahhh that would be a really bad B rated movie!

of course Ted Haggard’s story freaked me OUT for sure as well as Idaho’s Bathroom Ho (lmao) who still has a job, btw? What’s up with that???

hammeringspammers

Pringle is an excellent writer, summarizing the issues swirling around Obama so they are easy to understand, and follow.
Lou

Does that make His kids 3/4 black and 1/4 white? LOL..pshaw..she ain’t gettin any..Her husband is too busy doig Dean, Wright, and who knows who else.

hammeringspammers

Almost seems like a Hollywood production, doesn’t it?

Make it appear one way, but it’s central casting, or NOI, all the way.

Gosh, even that idiot David Geffen pays for Obama, right?

His argument against Clinton being, now wait for it — “she lies.”

BWhahahahahahahahahahahaahhaha.

The GUY is FUCKED.

http://hyper-educated-uppity-woman.blogspot.com Uppity

By August. Convention time.
Lou

I wonder if Axlerod has the patent on how to PROJECT and play reverse psychology. Hillary knows he accuses her of everything he is guilty of. LOL

Leisa

you have not done so already… cancel any news subscriptions that have been writing blatantly biased pro Obama stories while ignoring the truth…

Send a letter letting they know why you are canceling your subscription.

Next, email these crappy pundits and their bosses and tell them that they have no credibly and you will boycott them and encourage others to do so as well…

Just a few thoughts.

hammeringspammers

Journalism is business, now, as opposed to medium of truth, and balance, in service to the public.

Like the record companies, they will fail, too.

Sometimes, bad is simply bad.
Lou

Boycotting their sponsors works real well. A small group of us boycotted GE who sponsors MSNBC. Their first quarter earnings plummeted and Hillary got better treatment for a brief time. Sending sponsors emails about the boycott is effective.

Catime

The article by Evelyn Pringle is just one in a series. Here’s the rest of the links:

Barack Obama – The Wizard of Oz
http://www.opednews.com/articles/genera_none_080328_barck_obama___the_wi.htm

Barack Obama – Operation Board Games for Slumlords

http://www.opednews.com/articles/genera_evelyn_p_080404_barack_obama___opera.htm

Barack Obama – Subplots of Operation Board Games, Part I

http://www.opednews.com/articles/genera_evelyn_p_080418_barack_obama___subpl.htm

derridog

Yes, she’s written a number of these. They are very long and convoluted, however, which is important for her to make her case. But someone needs to summarize the major points against Obama that she makes. Otherwise, people won’t take the time to wade through it all.

hammeringspammers

Oh, wow, I thought it was easy, sorry…
http://noquarterusa.net/ SusanUnPC

“They are very long and convoluted, however, ”

I agree.

Most people can’t wade through all that material. (A few do, but not enough.)

But we need it DISTILLED down to its most basic elements.

Short. To the point. Declarative. Without any long quotes.

Surely some among us are capable of doing that.

http://hyper-educated-uppity-woman.blogspot.com Uppity

I completely agree. That piece was downright exhausting to read. Most people would not bother.

Deep Truths

Hi I’m new but have been lurking for a couple months. I’d like to contribute to this project.

My working hypothesis is that BO, along with all the other one-degree separation (i.e. Rezko, murdered gay choir director, Iraqi gov’t scams) I believe Obama helps to manipulate oil prices through his involvement with Nigerian rebels who mysteriously create havoc just when oil prices stabilize.

How else can you explain this headline:
“Nigerian oil rebels considering Obama truce appeal”

(Source: Reuters 04 May 2008
http://www.alertnet.org/thenews/newsdesk/L04445785.htm)

And when did Obama get a job in the State Department? Anyway consider, opine, and triagulate the following:

1)Senator Obama lunches with Dick Cheney first year
2)Oil prices skyrocket due in part to demand and instability in oil regions
3)Senator Obama votes yes on energy bill written by Dick Cheney
4)Nigerian rebels attack oil fields when oil prices are ebbing

Oil currently hovering at $125 dollars per barrel.

I have no doubt that Obama Hussein (yes, that’s your middle name) Obama is the most dangerous individual without an indictment or impeachment over his head.

Even more frightening is the total silence of our so-called free press who have defacto responsibility to report these crimes to government and the people.

We need to regulate and license news organizations in this country. How hard is it to get objective neutral, fair and balance reporting?

Kathy

Can Larry explain this.
hammeringspammers

I believe Obama helps to manipulate oil prices through his involvement with Nigerian rebels who mysteriously create havoc just when oil prices stabilize.

If he’s connected to the oil companies, and he IS, it’s plausible, (I mean, they HIRE people to do this, those in search of Pro Serv), why wouldn’t they bribe an American politician, like they do those “leaders” of other countries? It’s tradition, and the pieces certainly fit.

Remember “confessions of an economic hitman?”

Oil companies do things like this, all that money, and no rules…

You’re probably right, sadly.

Weekend in Monte Carlo, wow, life aint nothing but a party…

hammeringspammers

The Gods Must be Crazy…

hammeringspammers

http://www.bythefault.com/2008/05/10/bumbling-for-obama-oil-gas-connections/

Interesting link…

hammeringspammers

Turns out Farrakhan’s buddy, Qaddafi, is asking for financial relief, amnesty from the families whose loved ones he murdered, petitioning congress through big oil to forgive the 6 billion he is expected to have to pay out to them.

Obama, Wright, Farrakhan, Qaddafi, and big oil advocating to weaken the victims of terrorists bill of rights…

How perfect for Congress, championing the oil companies and terrorists over their fellow American citizens.

May you all rot in hell, speaking of 666.

hammeringspammers

Auchi, and Elf Aquitaine, the largest French oil company, too, in connection with Obama, this arms dealer, known for bribing politicans, world wide…

Bill Delyon

Cripes, the list just goes on and on with this guy BHO.

How does he do all this evil without anyone in the media saying a thing?

I just don’t get it.

http://speaktruth speaktruth

The big question for me this campaign is “why is ALL of the media pushing pushing pushing so hard for Obama?” The same media who pushed for Bush and the Iraq war. The same media (GE) who makes billions of dollars off wars, weapons, etc.
Have they suddenly become left-wing liberals, as most of his support is supposed to be? I don’t think so.
So what you are proposing could be a possible explanation. I have thought for a long time that he is in cahoots with big business, big energy. I do believe there is more involved, not sure what, but I think this is the question we should keep looking at. Even with McCain in the picture now, people thought these Republican stations would switch to McCain. But no, they are sticking with Obama. You don’t need any elaborate conspiracy theories (not that these are not valid) to know that something sneaky and rotten is going on .
Obama is clearly their Repub.
And I didn’t know he had lunch with Cheney. Is this usual for a Dem first-time Senator? Or for a long-time Senator or even presidential candidate, a Democrat. More weirdness.
Another odd thing. The hacking by Obamazoids. At first when they deleted an anti-Obama diary I wrote on the old Edwards website back in January I thought I was being paranoid. Now I know they play these games.
And, that reminds me of all those reports from Edwards people at Iowa caucuses who reported strangers by the busload, in rural caucuses, with Illinois license plates, all taking over caucuses, all for Obama. So it is entirely possible he stole that Iowa election. And then, of course, there’s Texas.
But back to hacking (wow, there are so many things to say, great idea, Susan), there were two websites that first opened my eyes about Obama back in January. One was by Paul Street, left-wing, who did not like Obama. He would go into where his money came from, knew numbers, but it was coming from Morgan-Stanley, Citigroup, Credit Suisse, Exelon (big connection), other Wall St. and energy companies.
The other site was A Black Agenda, by Glen Ford, an AA brilliant guy who did not like him at all, did not think he was good for AA population. I can never get that website any more – the page can’t be opened. Maybe some other servers are getting it, but I can’t. Fishy again.
Obama is not who his supporters think he is. Maybe we can get the word out.
Keep looking at the media. They want him. Why?

hammeringspammers

Yeah, all “evil” stems from big oil, I think you’re right, here, they should never have allowed themselves to think they were Jesus.

Fortunately, it would appear they’re not really bright, those oil acolytes, smell is stinky, but weak. And given they too are eating themselves to death, this isn’t really THAT bad.

Those oil guys looked so weak, so POD like, at the Seante hearings, I had to laugh.

I think they went too far, this time, maybe someone had enough.

hammeringspammers

What about Rwanda, too, the destabilization of Africa?

I mean, it’s like fighting the principality of
Texaco?

derridog

Hi Speaktruth, I share all your worries. I too feel that Obama is the corporate/mob candidate. There is too much evidence of the MSM unrelentingly hammering and trying to drive her from the race, which is unprecedented. On the other hand, Obama gets a pass on the most serious charges they’ve got -the Rezko/Auchi corruption deal. There’s a big media silence on that.

This means that either (a) Rove et al has decided Obama is the weaker candidate or, more likely in my view, considering all the evidence of Obama’s corporate and mob money backers (b) Obama is their candidate. He is a trojan horse sent to destroy and take over the Democratic Party so that there is no place left for progressives to go. They can easily suppress and ignore third parties, but if this succeeds, then, as Nader told us in 2000, both parties will be so corrupt and bought out that there will be no chance for anyone like the Clintons to come in and attempt to stop the money party. We’ll be a third world country and the middle class will die, our democracy will be gone and our government will be fully corrupt.

That’s why I’m genuinely thinking of voting for McCain. Whatever his faults and they are many and i agree with NOTHING he stands for, I still think he has the country’s well-being at heart and can be persuaded to work with Democrats and won’t be as bad as Bush NOR as bad as Obama, who will sell us out as he has sold everyone else out, including all those blacks who lived in the slum dwellings in his district while he managed to get Rezko a 25 million dollar contract to keep making sure they had no heat.

BTW –here’s the Black Agenda website address: http://www.blackagendareport.com/

Here’s another very scary article on this topic that everyone should read, even though it’s long and some of it sounds like tinfoil hat stuff. Nevertheless, a bunch of it appears true to me and it also summarizes Evelyn Pringle’s findings on Rezko/Obama et al in a much clearer and better organized way than Pringle does herself.

http://www.thecityedition.com/Pages/Archive/Winter08/2008Election.html

http://hyper-educated-uppity-woman.blogspot.com Uppity

I was wondering how this man fits into your theory: Odinga, the Genocidal candidate– who lost an election in Kenya and is now in the process of killing those who didn’t vote for him–and who proclaims proudly that he is Obama’s cousin and that they talk often. Would this man be some kind of conduit for him in Africa? I’m sure you have seen the youtube on him. If not just google ‘youtube odinga obama’

workingclass artist

VERITAS VOS LIBERABIT….
( The Truth shall set you free….)
Keep up the excellent and important work…For all of us….Thankyou NQ
sandyR

“Larry Johnson’s blog is raising eyebrows..”

Rise eyebrows rise!

Let’s kick us some empty suit butt!

Untilthelastdogdies

Everyone has just made me laugh my ass off these last couple of days (even the ridiculous trolls)!

Thanks to all for providing such a wonderful tonic

In the face of all the absurdity, the humor remains. You are all a blessing!

Mel

So what do you want then Susan?
Dora Ratquila

Larry’s site is “hardest-hitting” (along with his good friend Taylor Marsh’s) because both give their readers the unvarnished truth! No O’Juice necessary.
Hope

I bet for a lot of mamby pambys out there it is doing more than raising eyebrows! They must be having nightmares reading some of your posts! LOL.

This is a fantastic site. This is one of the only places on the net where one can actually speak one’s mind without fear or reprisal or intimidation from others. Even though we get our share of trolls here, I’ve never been silenced and I can honestly say that is surprising considering some of the statements I make which are pretty harsh.

Thank you Susan and Larry and all the others who write such great expose!.
SKMF

GO LARRY! GO LARRY! GO LARRY!
kat in your hat

Ok, I’ll submit something about Obama shortly.

In the meantime, it is important to be active everyone:

-Write all newspapers in upcoming events and express why you want Hillary.

-Continue writing superdelegates and go ahead and spout off at the DNC website. I like to vent there on occasion.

-Sign or MAKE petitions pro-Hillary/ anti-Obama. Go to Hillary Clinton. com and sign HER petition on counting MI and FL.

-Contribute money to Hillary Clinton. com.

-Go to No Quarter, and then turn to the Rezko Watch blog: check out the Best Blogs list on lower right hand side, and then foward all the best blogs to mainstream media and mother media lists. Here is one to start: Fair Media: http://www.fair.org/index.php?page=111

-To ALL bloggers and commentators, come up with an easy article today, and submit it to No Quarter and again to all newspapers and MSM.

-Make phone calls for Hillary–contact those West Virginians today.

-START YOUR OWN BLOG about how you want Hillary/ do not want Obama.

-If you are in WV, go make signs and get those cars to honk, and knock on those doors tomorrow and get those people to the voting polls.

Talktruth

Great reminder list, Kat. Thanks!

Clinton Fan

Why is the “anti-war candidate” up to his ass in Crown family contributions? Why is a Crown family member a member of his campaign team? General Dynamics doesn’t make plowshares, after all. Their business is WAR….and business is good.

It never made sense to me, how the supposed Peacenik Candidate could take hundreds of thousands of dollars over the years from those people.

And no one mentions it. They’d much rather make some cheesy sexist commentary about Senator Clinton.

http://hyper-educated-uppity-woman.blogspot.com Uppity

We will need more weaponry when barry reverses the direction of the fire over in the middle east. Hamas says they can wait.
http://noquarterusa.net/ SusanUnPC

Search No Quarter for the Crown family, and you will find a LOT. We have covered them many times — Obama screwed the Maytag workers just to make the Crowns happy, and now he’s reaping the benefits through their huge donations to his campaign.

http://speaktruth speaktruth

So this looks more and more like a takeover of the country by the media.
The gist of everything they say is that voters do not matter.
CNN is on now. They are trying to say Clinton supporters are all racist. Good spin. Instead of Obama supporters are racist and that is how he won certain key states that DNC placed first.
Democrat party does not speak for me if they let Obama steal this nomination. I see no future for Hillary in that party. They will try to push her out. I am so sick of the media telling lies lies lies about the campaign. As if it is only about her and not the voters. And how much they seem to hate all the women who support her.
Time for a third party for her to run on. One that also includes all the women who seem to have no voice in this country – at least not one that counts. I truly believe that she can beat Obama and McCain. Show them that women do count. Let the voters decide – instead of the media.

hammeringspammers

Ew, Crown.

What’s that whiskey Crown 7?

Guy spilled it yesterday, outside the liquor store near my house.

Stinky stuff, my Dad would use it, or Jim Beam, for our toothaches when I was little, then the dentist told him to stop…

SONIA

GO LARRY

GO LARRY

GO HILL FANS
JP

This is the best blog on the internet, IMHO. It’s the only place I can come to where no one apologizes for disclosing the obvious threat that Obama is to this country. I heart NoQuarter.

I’ve had an idea for a short piece about how it’s actually racist to treat African-Americans with kid gloves, because this implies they are less than equal. Think, “Remember the Titans” when Denzel Washington tells the white coach, who has been coddling African American players, “You’re crippling them, you’re crippling them for life!”.

That’s what Rev. Wright has done, and what Obama’s campaign is doing.

Interested in this piece, or do you think it’s too fluffy? (after all, it is time for real DIRT on Obama to keep coming out).

s. hall

Hate sells. It bought Rev. Wright a 10,000 sq.ft. house in the White neighborhood of Tinley Park. I guess when Wright is off duty he prefers to hang with his tormentors. The new Reverend is following closely in his footsteps.

hammeringspammers

You know what they say about Stockholm syndrome, and beaten wives…

http://www.arguewitheveryone.com ChrisXP

I’ve had an idea for a short piece about how it’s actually racist to treat African-Americans with kid gloves, because this implies they are less than equal.

It does, BUT, these folks will call your attempt to rationalize that as “symbolic racism”. This is a term political scientists are throwing around like a hot potato (which can explain for the insistent look at race in the media with Obama, as they gobble up this stuff from “experts”).

This is the type of stuff they’re teaching kids in college now. That if you believe in the “pull yourself up with your bootstraps” concept it’s called “symbolic racism” as it’s a form of systemic “oppression” of those of color (ah, just ask Asians if it’s “oppressive” — oops, “of color” really means Black people).

More terms, more ideas, more poppycock. Yet another form of diversion to keep from answering a problem, so some group or entity can still be in “business”.

workingclass artist

Susan I think it is important to continue to connect ( with yourand Larry’s expertise ) Obama’s connection to hreats to our national security and those involved with both the money and the formation of policy…I posted this on another comment but I think it bares consideration….

” …We are going to see increasing efforts by the Islamic world to ( win the hearts and minds ) of the American People..Since Muslaims have the financial capability, and a growing appreciation of the importance of public opinion in the West….There will be tremendous investment by Islamic states in all forms of intervention in american society….From the hiring of public relations firms
to MASSIVE SUPPORT OF POLITICAL CANDIDATES…” Marvin Zonis. ” Islam ”
The University of Chicago Magazine. September. 1980

OH THE IRONY…..HOW PROPHETIC….

http://hyper-educated-uppity-woman.blogspot.com Uppity

Heck they are ALREADY investing heavily ….in Obama.

workingclass artist

I KNOW THIS WAS WRITTEN IN 1980….AND IN CHICAGO….I JUST FOUND IT THIS MORNING AND I WENT…..WOW….

hammeringspammers

You know, Deep Truths made an excellent point, though perhaps inadvertently: the oil companies.

Lynch pin, here, the root of all eveil?

MY goodness, my sister would rail about them when I was a child, first words out of my mouth were probably “Shell Oil is destroying America” but I figured as I reached the age of reason it was just vietnam hyperbole.

Guess she was right.

BO=Big Oil=Barry Obama=Body Order=Bill O’Reilly.

/snark

http://www.arguewitheveryone.com ChrisXP

I just want to know where are the worst Obama sites that allow posting (I can’t post at DK, though)? I’m best when surrounded 20:1, and with posters who just won’t stop wanting to be meat puppets. }:>

Preferably at more neutral sites that allow not just Dem posting (to avoid being banned in 10 minutes), although I’ll post anywhere that can help Hillary.

Blogs or forums name it!

Dawnelle

dnc open thread

http://www.arguewitheveryone.com ChrisXP

Posted there years ago. Almost no commentary but canned speeches now. Some patently offensive (conservatives don’t have to make up stuff about liberals hating the military) with stuff like this…

Now who was it a couple weeks ago, arguing with me that the US occupied countries in the world LIKE being occupied??? WRONG !!!!!!! Get us the hell out !!

[...]

The citizens of Hokkaido join citizens from other parts of the world who are protesting the continuing presence and expansion of the US military.

My mom is from Hokkaido, and after reading that, if I post I’ll tear down the house. That’s the Commie Red Brigade BS rhetoric that dumb fucking poster is reposting on that thread. They’re behind most of those protests in Japan, and it’s cousin, in South Korea. Wherever those damn Commies go they want to destablize the government.

Next place? Hopefully one that has live breathing commentators?

Talktruth

A troll gave out one today that might be of interest to you, something like http://www.reddit.com.

http://www.arguewitheveryone.com ChrisXP

It’s a RSS depository. So followed a link to DU. That place went from actual posts with educated comments, to now, one-liners expected from a comedy show.

Is this the “hope” that Obamatics have for the DP? To spam a site with giggles enough to turn it into SNL?

Oops, just saw the call to, “post this on Kos”. Okay, explains things (birds flock together).

No wonder why the Obamatics don’t want to think about messy policies — they’re too busy being baffoons. :rolleyes:

s. hall

We need to explain what Black Liberation Theology means. Obama and Mrs. Misery along with Reverend Wright believe in this. Its a concept in which Politics and Religion are one. Its very scary although I have had a hard time finding out much about it.

workingclass artist

You can read all you want about LIBERATION THEOLOGY ineither the Catholic Encyclopedia or The Concise History of the Catholic Church. This is the Foundational Philosophy. It swept through Latin America in the 1970′s and 1980′s. It is political/religous and promotes MARXIST SOLOUTIONS TO SOCIAL PROBLEMS…IT IS MILITANT…
ADD TO THAT THE POLITICAL/RACIAL PHILOSOPHY AND YOU HAVE BLACK LIBERATION THEOLOGY….
LIBERATION THEOLOGY = MARXISM + CHISTIAN HERESY + MILITANCY
BLACK LIBERATION THEOLOGY = MARXISM + CHRISTIAN HERESY + BLACK SEPARATISM + FASCIST RACIAL SUPREMACY….
CONE IS THE ARCHITECT OF BLACK LIBERATION THEOLOGY = TO AFRICAN AMERICAN TALIBAN IN THAT THERE IS NO SEPARATION OF POLITICS AND RELIGION…..

Patrick Henry

Yes…and Cone..The Author of Black liberation Theology was asked which Church most represented His Theology and he said Minister Wrights… that

workingclass artist

CONTRA TANGO ANYONE….

bwana

Since we’re all such fans of My DD:

http://www.mydd.com/story/2008/5/11/17728/3506

The Clinton Talking Points
by Transplanted Texan, Sun May 11, 2008 at 05:07:28 PM EST

I whole-heartedly agree with Jerome’s point in yesterday’s “Deal With Defeat”, but I don’t think he took it far enough. Yes, Obama supporters should be prepared to lose West Virginia (as well as Kentucky), but so too should Clinton supporters be prepared to lose the nomination.

Jerome is right. Clinton is going to do well in West Virginia, and blindly accusing that state of racism doesn’t make any more sense than blindly accusing North Carolina of sexism. Truth be told, this is one Obama voter who is happy to see Clinton pushing hard in WV and Kentucky. Assuming both candidates are capable of running positive campaigns, I welcome sending them to states Romney and Giuliani didn’t even dream about. We are registering millions of new Democratic voters, and if Obama and Clinton can focus on McCain rather than on each other, the remaining primaries will be wonderful opportunities for our party.

But even if Clinton wins landslides in WV and KY, this nomination seems just about locked up. As far back as March 21, Clinton advisers were privately putting their chances at a mere 10 percent. If it was just 10% all the way back then, what is it now that North Carolina and Indiana have spoken and the superdelegates have turned?

I am sympathetic for Clinton’s supporters. I’ve been on the losing side myself – Howard Dean and John Edwards in 2004, and Joe Biden in 2008. There’s a reason I call myself an Obama voter rather than an Obama supporter. It hurts, but reality is reality, and none of the remaining Clinton talking points make sense. You’ve heard most of the arguments before, but I’d like to sum them up in one post.

Clinton will win the popular vote once MI and FL are settled: There are three things wrong with this argument. First of all, it assumes that not a single person in all of Michigan supports Obama. Real Clear Politics has Obama up by about 846,801 without those two states and up 113,498 with them, but that latter figure does not give Obama any of Michigan’s “uncommitted” vote. If you’re determined to count every vote, you certainly can’t ignore a full 200,000 voters. Second, the results of those two states are in no way reflective of this campaign. If my memory is correct, Indiana is the only state where both candidates have aggressively campaigned and Clinton’s lead has not narrowed (or disappeared altogether). This pattern would no doubt have held in MI and FL, where no campaigning took place and Obama’s name recognition had not yet taken off. A true reflection of those state’s sentiments would certainly lean towards Clinton, but probably by a narrower margin. And third, even if you assume Edwards did as well as Obama and award him only half MI’s uncommitted vote, he still picks up 119,084 votes and leads Clinton by well over 250,000. Do we really think that WV and KY will net her that many votes? To put it in perspective, Pennsylvania didn’t, and it has a larger population than KY, WV, and PR combined. Throw in Oregon, Montana, and South Dakota, and I can’t see Clinton catching up.

Clinton is more electable because of the big states: As before, there are three things wrong with this argument. First of all, it’s just silly to claim no Democrat can win the White House without Ohio, Pennsylvania, or Florida. If you want to bind us to the electoral map of 2000 and 2004 for the rest of time, perhaps you’d have a point, but the map has changed before and it will change again. Obama took swing states like Colorado, Minnesota, Wisconsin, Iowa, Virginia, and North Carolina, and he’s likely to take Oregon. These swing states matter, too. The second problem with this argument is it contradicts any notion that the popular vote matters. If you want to argue for the popular vote model, you can’t obsess about Ohio and Florida while ignoring Louisiana, Idaho, and Mississippi. The Clintonistas are trying to have it both ways. Finally, primaries test only the Democratic electorate, and so hardly predict general election results – does anyone really expect Clinton to win Tennessee in November by 13 points, or McCain to swamp California? By this logic, Bill Clinton should have lost New Hampshire in 1992 and John Kerry should have won Iowa in 2004.

Clinton is more electable because of Obama’s scandals: It’s certainly true that the Jeremiah Wright scandal received more coverage than the sniper fire story, and that Obama’s “bitter” comments dwarfed Clinton’s elitist inability to pump gas. The last few months, however, are hardly the standard by which to gauge coverage of the coming election. Obama had the decency not to bring up Whitewater, the 1994 health care debacle, or the candidate’s spouse’s extra-marital affairs, but the Republicans won’t be so kind. Yes, Clinton can argue that those scandals are old news, but that won’t matter as long as they are THE news. I guarantee that Republicans will harp on her past as much as they will Obama’s, reminding voters what they didn’t like about the 1990s. Now don’t get me wrong, I’m not claiming this is a good thing or that it helps Obama; I offer this only as a counter to the Clintons’ talking point. The Wright scandal and “bitter” remarks are certainly powerful, just no more so than the equally unfair coverage Clinton will receive.

Clinton is more electable because Obama can’t close the deal: Of all the Clinton talking points, this is the one I am probably the most sick of. Thank God it has largely faded since NC. As recently as February, Clinton had a 20-point lead in national polls; today, Obama leads by 2. A year ago, he was an afterthought and she was inevitable – yet we’re supposed to believe that because he can only gain 22 points and become only a slight frontrunner, he’s not good enough? How exactly is this an argument for someone who LOST 22 points? Isn’t Senator Inevitable the one who can’t close the deal against the young upstart? The latest reincarnation of this argument is that a frontrunner should be able to win WV and KY – perhaps, although I wasn’t aware they’d changed the definition of “frontrunner” to “the candidate who wins every single state.”

I don’t want Clinton to drop out. Unlike some of Obama’s other voters, I don’t despise her; she’s done impressive things in New York and Washington. I do, however, want her to apologize for implying that the superdelegates should take African Americans for granted, but once she’s done that, I’m thrilled to have her go on to WV and KY and register thousands of new voters. This race should be settled on June 5, not May 11 – but just as Jerome wants Obama supporters to be cool about WV, so too should Clinton supporters be cool about the popular vote, the pledged delegate lead, the superdelegate lead, and the Michigan uncommitteds. Last year we kept talking about our abundance of riches and our wonderful slate of candidates. That’s still true, folks. These are the same people we had running last year, with the same potential.

pm317

Does your candidate have 2209 delegates? If he did, the media is hiding that fact very well.
http://therealistblogs.blogspot.com/ troy m

Boy, did you come to the wrong website to try that out. It don’t work here.

Catime

Susan,
Back in February, you posted a piece from Debbie Schlussel’s blog, which claimed that Obama had at least one NOI member (Jennifer Mason) on his Senate staff. At one point, you challenged people to check out the accuracy of the statement. Did anyone do so?

Debbie Schlussel’s link:

http://www.debbieschlussel.com/archives/2008/01/obamas_nation_o.html

No Quarter links:

http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/02/27/about-the-nation-of-islam-and-obama/

http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/02/27/simple-questions-for-senator-obama/

hammeringspammers

Does Obama have NOI members on his staff, or surrogates?

Valerie

I just read this on the home page of my Road Runner service: Obama is going to start campaigning in Michigan and Florida. In the next few days he hits Michigan, and then starting on May 21st he will hit Florida, making stops in Tampa, Orlando, Plam Beach County and Miami, says the story.

http://www.rr.com/flash/index.cfm?division=34

I seem to be having problems making the above a link. (I will write you, Susan to get instructions on how to do all this stuff!) PLUS I have noticed that when Road Runner runs stories – especially these political firecrackers they tend to turn up missing quite soon. It is an AP release and the headline is “Obama Heading to Michigan and Florida” written by Charles Babington and Matt Apuzzo.

I live in Tampa Bay area… Anyone else??? I would love to go just to be a protestor.

Geezzz the nerve of this jerk – he is already CAMPAIGNING for the GE… I just KNOW that he will bury himself along with all the fools that back him. Hillary will be the nominee.

sandyR

what makes you think he’s not campaigning in Mich and Florida for the primary? Might be something he doesn’t like coming down the pike from the rules committee. maybe the little weasel wants to get a head start campaigning against clinton.
just a thought. Still possible that there’s a re-vote in mich and florida.

Betty

I was just thinking this very thing is what is needed this morning. Too many times in history, good, well intentioned people, who would have/could have acted, did not. They did’t take a threat seriously till it was too late, and innocent people paid the price.

I was thinking of a time line, that could be added to by anyone with even one small seemingly unrelated piece of information. A time-line like that would be easy to disrupt so every tidbit of information would have to be confirmed some way. But I think it could be worth while. I can volunteer to be a time-line research person.

derridog

Good idea, Betty.
Talktruth

I love that idea. I wonder if there’s a website template for such a thing.

FloridaDem

These guys bash Obama with everything they can find.
http://obamawho.wordpress.com/
Another good site is: http://www.stop-obama.org/
I just read where Obama plans a 5 state tour over the next two weeks and he is going to go to Michigan and Florida becasue we have been so ignored. How do I say this nicely? We do not want you here in Florida so go somewhere else elitist. Nice enough? He honestly thinks he is the nominee before he has reached the totals and everyone has voted. Talk about ego!
Nag55

Susan, here’s a question… what if I constructed a piece, proofed my HTML without posting it elsewhere and then copied and pasted into a simple text message? Would that work for you? Or does it HAVE to be posted elsewhere first?
Faustina

Someone needs to uncover how Obama came to be the frontrunner for the Democratic nomination. I definitely do not mean the mechanics of the primary voting. I mean the political maneuvering and wheeling and dealing by the senior Democrats that went into getting him the money, the media support, and the insider political support that he has.

His success has not been a spur of the moment thing. It goes back a ways I would venture to say. Who is responsible? Why are they supporting somebody with NO RELEVANT EXPERIENCE?

Kerry gave a hint in response to the Ferraro uproar. We have had a glimpse into some of his Chicago and Illinois connections. But I have not seen anything, and I looked, that explains why people like Kerry, Dean, Kennedy, Pelosi, and a list of other experienced congressional Democrats are supporting this guy. He is an empty suit, a puppet.

I am not at all sure for whom. I read Webster Tarpley’s book. I have checked out Lyndon LaRouche’s website. As far as I know these are the only journalists or activists who have even attempted to answer these questions. And many people would just write these guys off as conspiracy theorists no matter how much sense they make and how much documentation they have.

Hopefully, the voters will not have to wait until October for the Republicans to give them an answer to these questions. We need to know.

hammeringspammers

I’d like to know who funded the Obama blogs, and when.

barbh

I’d like to know who paid all the big time boyz bloggers to come out for BO…

He seems like republican lite to me, not at all progressive. He has used so many Bush/repub talking points regarding Social Security, healthcare, etc….they have to be taking money from his campaign or completely and totally lost their minds and progressive values.

TLE

Do you think they needed to be paid? Or is it possible they have been planning for this for a long time? Markos at the DailyFormerRepublikos is …well, a “former” Republican. Arianna at the IHateHillaryPost is… oh, yeah, another “former” Republican. Ed Schultz, the IHateTheClintonsWorse ThanMyFormerRoleModelThePigBoy broadcaster is — oh, just guess. Do you think the naifs still drinking from these wells are any smarter than the Christian fundies who fell hook, line and sinker for any expensively dressed snake-oil salesman spouting BS about “family values?” These conmen (and women, don’t mean to leave Arianna out) are adept at altering their images to appeal to their desired suckers — I mean customer base. I don’t think they got paid to turn to the dark side. I think they were from the dark side to begin with, and just showed the patience of a fisherman, reeling ‘em in. You almost have to admire them, in a creepy, Dick Cheney kind of way.

Gary McGowan

Can’t offer explicit answer to funding question, but you should look here.

http://therealistblogs.blogspot.com/ troy m

He is an empty suit, a puppet.

That is why they are supporting him

Nag55

How about how Obama is really just another shill for big corporations. His top 20 contributor list reads like a who’s who among lobbyists and corps who created the subprime fiasco.
Greg

I think the stupidest thing about Obama’s almost certain nomination is that the majority of his support came from voters who bought into his “uniter” meme before they knew who Rev. Wright was, or his ties to unrepentant domestic terrorists, or his “bitter” remarks.

My issue with this is that if those contests were held again today, there is no way in hell he gets all of those votes, or at least not the white working class votes, let’s be honest, he would still likely get over 90% of the black vote.

So, given this obvious truth, how on earth is his candidacy going to be considered valid? Shouldn’t his drop in the national polls say something about his electability now vs. then?

http://hyper-educated-uppity-woman.blogspot.com Uppity

That’s ok, they will get another chance in November.
fooj

90% of 12%. The MSM neglects to inform the American public of that most important FACT.

yttik

Wait, the media is even more misleading then that when it comes to black voters. 12% of the population is black. Like white folks, just over half of them actually vote. That cuts it down to 6%. But they’re people with varying political opinions, so of that 6%, 22% of them don’t even vote Democrat. Then Hillary has a whole lot of black supporters, too.

So what the media is really saying is that Obama is getting 90% of the vote from less then 4% of the voters. That’s what “winning the black vote” really means in terms of numbers.

I don’t mean to disparage a whole demographic of people or to imply that they don’t matter. I just want to counter this mediated reality that seems to imply that every black person in America is voting for Obama and that gives him some sort of lead when it comes to numbers.

TeakWoodKite

Larry had mentioned awhile back two stories that had been “sat on” regarding BO that he was not at liberty to convey. Any change on this?

Two ways to sink a ship.
Put a hole in it. Pull the plug.

Both address the viability of said “ship of fools”.

Infiltration. Internal memo’s.
Manu

The visuals peepl. We need some visual over here. E.g., BO giving BJ to Will Ayers, or at least a bit of tongue. i can assure you the republicans already have some goods. We can read all we want about BO, but the important thing is to dig up the images/videos and to a lesser extent audios of BO in action.
swanky

Here’s two:

1) Obama steals supporters MySpace page to get access to the site’s “friends” list in the tens of thousands.

2) Obama’s website does not comply with the FEC rules for disclosure of foreign donations; Clinton’s does, and always has.

I don’t have the links to these stories, but they’re out there.

Gary McGowan

MySpace, Facebook and others have heavy datamining, profiling and database operations going on. Best primer I know of is “Is the Devil in Your Laptop?” which is easily found with a search. It’s PDF format.

Bill Gates is no friend of our constitutional republic either.

bubbleboy

Look, I know that concepts such as “party unity” and “human decency” were abandoned around these parts some time ago, but have you been paying attention? The nastier Hillary and her supporters have become, the worse she has done. I mean, after weathering the 2 worst weeks of his campaign, Obama crushed her in NC and almost overtook her in IN. Doesn’t that tell you something? And yet you keep repeating the same patterns of behavior over and over again, expecting a different result. Sorry gang, it’s just not working. In fact it’s backfiring.

At some point you will have to face the fact that you all have been an integral part of destroying her chances at the nomination, and permanently tarnishing the Clintons’ legacy. Keep it up — at this rate, Hillary will be lucky to retain her seat in the senate.

workingclass artist

LOOK BUBBLEBOY….YOUR CANDIDATE IS UNFIT FOR POTUS….
OBAMA WILL NEVER BE POTUS…IT WILL NEVER HAPPEN BECAUSE HE IS UNFIT….SHOVE THAT UNITY BONG UP YOUR ASS….

bubbleboy

Bill? Is that you? You’re so cute when you get all red-faced and angry. But you should know I’m a Democrat, so “my candidate” is whomever the party nominates.

You all may want to try to sell “your candidate” on her strong points, rather than trying to destroy her opponent. Do you want her to finish this out some dignity in tact and good standing amongst the Democratic party? Or do you want her to go down in a huge, explosive ball of fire?

hammeringspammers

Ever see the farting scene from Blazing Saddles, one fart more stinky than the next?

Your crew, brainstorming.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R6dm9rN6oTs
mimi

bubbleboy???? bubbleboy?????????????????

You can’t be serius posting a comment defending your totally unfit candidate with questionable ties with a name like bubbleboy.

Sorry to burst your bubble, boy, but you should scrutinize your candidate with clear eyes.

bubbleboy! I can’t get over the irony of an Obama supporter positng with a name like that. Sort of tells you a whole lot.

Gary McGowan

What’s your last name, mimi? (Assuming mimi is actually your first name.)

Ever hear of a “financial bubble”? Have any idea what happens to human beings and nations when they burst? Metaphorically, he could have a thought-provoking handle there.

Or, I dunno, maybe it refers to an pre-adolescent experience with bubble gum; either way, it’s as good as “mimi.”

Gary McGowan

Whups! Did I just shot a basket – or try – at the wrong end of the court? How many ends on this court anyway? How many teams?

I’m kinda sick of all the flamebaiting, and of so many people unnecessarily hiding behind anonymity. I should take a break.

My apologies, everyone.

sjc-tx

The Communistic MSM is why their is such a negative attitude to HRC. Propoganda goes a long way… just ask Jos Goerbels (HOw ever the hell you spell it) and der furher!

workingclass artist

ehemmm……that’s….Goebbles….but pronounced phonetically gerbels…with a soft g….just info….

beebop

Is his 50 state campaign not to run in all of them?

We knew he was fatigued, but declaring yourself the winner and actually EARNING IT are so different, don’t you think?

apishapa

That’s 57 state campaign (or 59 depending on how he counts).

fooj

Do you have any idea how many Repubs that I have talked to who want to vote for Hillary vs McCain?

Crushed her in NC? Was that BEFORE or AFTER his bogus extra 15K votes he recieved? BWAHAHAHA!

Bottom line…he doesn’t have the #’s that he needs. Period. End of fucking story.

Project much? It will be Obama and his minions who ultimately destroy his White House gameplan. Count on it.
raymo

where have you been lately bubble boy? In a bubble?

Your sexist, race-baiting candidate has been propped up by his bullshit caucus wins, an ass-kissing media that is about to turn on him in favor of McCain, and the disenfranchisement of two of Hillary Clinton’s states. Hillary’s supporters either find your candidate extremely stinky, or they hate is guts (count me in the second category).

You’re going to lose like McGovern with a hangover in November. You have offended all of us. We do not need you. We want to see you lose and lose badly. We want the Democratic party to be taught a lesson it will never forget.

You think we ain’t got no “human decency” around here? Oh my. When you say words like that, Hopey the Unity Pony cries big salty tears.

bubbleboy

No, I really don’t think there’s a whole lot of human decency here, and it’s reflecting very negatively on the candidate you support. FFS, someone just told me to shove a bong up my ass because I suggested you might want to try a more effective (read: positive) approach for selling your candidate.

If you think you can “teach the party a lesson” by getting McCain elected, without simultaneously destroying your candidate’s career and the her husband’s legacy, I’m afraid you are the one living in a bubble. She will be lucky to hang on to her senate seat in an “elitist” city like NYC.

http://hyper-educated-uppity-woman.blogspot.com Uppity

As for NY, we love Hillary. You young slugs can’t touch her. Maybe you can run one of your snot nosed friends against her like Laslo so they we can all watch his ass get kicked.

Catime

Hillary as a Senator has been very good to the people of New York.

I can’t forget how hard and long she fought when NYS was going to lose millions of Ryan White (HIV/AIDS) under the new federal funding formula. And, she was successful.

Hillary will never lose an election in NYS.

beebop

You might want to succor yourself with some factoids before your throw poo.

How well did Boy Obama do in NYC? Got Facts?
PoliticalWaif

A “destroyed” career, Bubbleboy? Surely ou can’t be this obviously challenged in the ways of strategy?

A loss by Obama to McCain is absolutely ideal if Hillary does not secure the nomination. I’d wager the DNC will not be hanging their hats on Obama’s prospects for a re-run in 2012, and she’ll be waiting in the wings – vetted and ready to go.

There will be no dual ticket considered between the two. And those trying to tell the Obama camp that BHO is unelectable are well aware there are more than enough Hillary devotees who would prefer to go for McCain now, and run her again in 2012. If you do not listen, it is at your own peril.

Strawberrybitch

I never thought about that! Vote for McCain in 2008 over Barky, then Hillary in 2012…BLOODY BRILLANT!!!We need to spread that idea.

http://therealistblogs.blogspot.com/ troy m

Go back to your nice soft lil blankey back at HuffPO, AmericaBlog, And Orange Satin. Most of us are here because of the filth you and your brethren and Sistren, have spouted for the last six months.

So, please, don’t come here lecturing us about human decency. It is false and quite frankly, disingenuous. We aren’t buying what you are selling.

Dawnelle

ROFLMAO @ hopey the unity pony

LMAO!!!

http://hyper-educated-uppity-woman.blogspot.com Uppity

It’s a long way to August. If I had any skeletons in my closet I would be worrying. You haven’t been in politics very long have you?

beebop

His grades, who took the bar exam for him, the list goes on and on. Ayers and Wright were easy to find. Imagine the crap that was in the papers he “lost.” Now imagine someone who worked for him there in Chicago kept copies … wouldn’t that be fun?

apishapa

Honey, it was a foregone conclusion from the start that Obama would win NC because of the huge AA population. He did not win by the margin he had predicted just a few weeks earlier.

Obama also forecast that he would WIN Indiana. In fact he called Indiana the “tie breaker”. It does not matter that he did not lose big. He lost in a state he said was the deal breaker for him. Hillary never said that and she never took Indiana for granted. Hillary beat him because she worked her tail off, while he was bitching about being tired and overworked.

The only states Obama has won are states Democrats cannot possibly take in November. He has openly begged Republicans to vote for him. Barack Obama is an embarassment. Considering how nasty he and his wife have behaved, compared to the grace afforded them by Bill and Hillary, his supporters can just learn to deal with a little hitting back from us.

I cannot under any circumstances imagine Bill Clinton threatening to “rip Michelle Obama’s eyes out”. But when Michelle makes truly psychotic threats, Hillary gets compared to “fatal attraction”. Odd.
Strawberrybitch

What are you talking about? Barky was supposed to clean her clock in Indianna,She pulled out a victory. Not to mention he out spent her 3 to 1. And seeing how he was caught cheating in both Indiana and North Carolina, and you’re still here trying to destroy our resolve, it would seem you and barky are the desperate ones.

Delia

According to all the MSM polls, Hillary was supposed to win decisively in Indiana. And that’s what Obama was saying.

This used to be a great foreign policy blog. Lot’s of solid information. It’s really a shame what’s happened to it.

http://www.arguewitheveryone.com ChrisXP

I mean, after weathering the 2 worst weeks of his campaign, Obama crushed her in NC

No Hillary voter is surprised. NC has a huge Black voting block.

You Obamatics are building a house of cards out of spin and mirrors.

sjc-tx

Great website and article
http://www.pr-inside.com/smoking-gun-
prompts-andy-martin-to-r559376.htm

sandyR

link didn’t work

sjc-tx

http://www.pr-inside.com/smoking-gun-prompts-andy-martin-to-r559376.htm

http://inyourface.info Hank Roth

You are right about the need to dumb it down, but even doing that, I am not convinced you can change many minds. There may be a few who are sincerely trying to understand what is not properly being vetted by the media, but how many really have the intellectual curiosity to search out the truth? There is enough circumstantial information to make a reasonable case to oppose Obama but that isn’t convincing enough to people who want unequivocal evidence. You don’t even get that in court. Most of what you can do here is preach to the choir. BUT, the best way to help Hillary is not arguing with obamabots or venturing into the middle of one of their viper’s nests. They’ll accuse you of being a troll simply because you challenge their prevailing views. They’re intellectually dishonest and want affirmation, not debate or to be challenged. The best way to help, if there is any time left to help (and I think time has run out for the best there is) so talk to your neighbors. It is VERY important to keep yourself informed and post pointers here and on Taylor Marsh’s site, where others can also find that information. And get a sign for your yard and bumper stickers for your car. Host a match-up in your area and have handouts ready to go when they get there and when everyone who has them who will use them, distribute them at the super-market and elsewhere. There is time, but not much. Personally, if Hillary is not the candidate I’m crossing over to McCain. Obama is a friend of antisemites and my enemy. I know all the reasons why not to vote Republican, but McCain is still the least objectionable Republican I know and being as old as I am I have seen both good and bad Democrats and some very good Republicans, like the one I worked for (IKE). At least McCain is a brother vet and as the former commander of the Jewish War Veterans (in Ocala) I would trust my instincts and go with someone who gave so much of himself and
sacrificed to keep us safe. He is a hero – even if too conservative (g).

Check out the CRYPT at http://inyourface.info/crypt/
for a lot of POINTERS to information which will be useful to you.

hammeringspammers

You are right about the need to dumb it down, but even doing that, I am not convinced you can change many minds.

The point is, if they vote for Obama, or McCain, cheating, without making the case as to WHY their candidate is superior, (and he’s not, I really would like to see when the pro Obama blogs were funded, and by whom, indicating fraud, is some cases, particularly as money was solicited) they’re making a stupid decision.

And they will pay fir it, period, the country cannot sustain without ending the wars, without itelligence governance, and the middle east being addressed.

Obama, McCain and their mediocre lobbyists and billionaire friends can’t do the job.

So they’re committing suicide, and that’s all.

You cant argue with a passive aggressive, that was Osama ‘s technique to get Cheney into the Middle East, he KNEW they would handle it wrong.

And they did.

Thought it would be a gravy train for everyone, and they’re in deep deep shit.

Went to the bank this morning, and a guy standing in the doorway, outside, (we’re near a Merill Lynch, all those type places), was going on about a trillion dollars in bad loans to someone on the other end of his cell phone.

Good heavens, this wan’t even a big ticket guy in a silk suit, this was a middle man…
http://www.arguewitheveryone.com ChrisXP

You are right about the need to dumb it down, but even doing that, I am not convinced you can change many minds.

What would work better are slogans over a snapshot of Obama (this counters his Commie styled posters).

Trying to find a suitable photo to do my magic and put the word “Nub” on it. That would get the attention of that 20 something group.

Then some more for these nice quotes:

“Ninety-nine percent of the failures come from people who have the habit of making excuses.”

~ George Washington Carver

and…

“Mere connection with what is known as a superior race will not permanently carry an individual forward unless the individual has worth.”

~ Booker T. Washington

and yet another…

“No race can prosper till it learns there is as much dignity in tilling a field as in writing a poem.”

~ Booker T. Washington

Speak the lingo, and hit their “kewlness” factor. His demographics are still in the “Will I fit in?” stage.

Hillary’s side is slow on marketing, and in this multi-tasking and sound bite world, you need a “grabber” to gain the ADHD/ADD attention span. To keep the supporters motivated, and to cast doubt on the other side.

foreignwoman

This could be of interest if you haven’t already posted link somewhere else: second of two articles

http://www.counterpunch.org/martens05052008.html
fooj

This really bothers me.

http://candorville.blogspot.com/2007/06/obamas-odd-reason-for-opposing.html

“I think that you reserve impeachment for grave, grave reasons.”

WTF might THOSE be? New kind of politician, my ass.
Mimi

In the early 1980′s, a young college student named Barack Obama took a “vacation” to Karachi, Pakistan and Hyderabad, India. Both cities were centers of MUSLIM radicalism during that time and were often visited by young MUSLIM students.
Scarcely a typical spring break holiday. Obama has never adequately explained his reasons for the visits.
Why did he go to these centers of MUSLIM radicalism? Who did he go with? What did he do there? Who did he meet with?
Why won’t Obama answer these questions?

Kathy

His mother was working there. That is why he went, to see her.

Mimi

Wrong, Kathy. He went to visit his mother and sister in Indonesia BEFORE he traveled on to Pakistan.

kiki

Here are some people associated with Obama’s 1981 trip to Pakistan:
Walid Hamid
Muhammed Hasan Chandoo or Chandio
Muhammad Mian Soomro
Ahmad Mian Soomro

Paul

“Now let’s roll up our sleeves and GET OUT OUR FINGERNAILS”

This sounds like crazy talk.

http://hyper-educated-uppity-woman.blogspot.com Uppity

Mercy there’s a whole army of you twits here today isn’t there? We must really bother you, else why bother coming here?

http://www.arguewitheveryone.com ChrisXP

They’re losing control of the message.

As soon as they do (hopefully with a revamped marketing stragedy), sooner the hot air of their balloon will escape.

It’s all psychological warfare from here on.

scott

Actually it sounds like Michelle O’Angry talking about Bill Clinton.

WestPalm4Hillary

Dear Obamabots and members of the “Wright” wing of the Democratic Party:

You have brought upon a civil war within the Democratic party, and having had this fight foisted upon us, a good percentage of us are prepared to fight you in this war you have started, and to hell with “unifying” the party.

The United States had to be “ripped apart” and “Destroyed” by in-fighting for it to emerge a better nation, and now it’s time for the Democrats to do some soul searching to determine what kind of party it wants to be, and whose interests it wants to represent in the future.

Because I have news for you Obamafans: If Obama is handed the nomination after self-corronating himself, then you will be fighting a two front war – the Republicans, and the centrist/conservative Hillary Democrats who will punish you, the “Obama/Wright-wing” of the party for what you have done to this party, Hillary and Bill Clinton (THE couple that brought the Democrats off life support in the 1990s), and any chance for Universal Healthcare in our lifetime. Backstabbers and idiots, the lot of you.

You are to us what the religious right wing nutbags are to the Republican party. I suggest when you emerge defeated in November, you contemplate starting your own party, and leave the Democrats alone.

And no amount of fearmongering about John McCain will help you out a damn bit, so don’t even try.

CeeHussein

And no amount of fearmongering about John McCain will help you out a damn bit, so don’t even try.

You can always turn to Bob Barr. Many will.

beebop

I’m still betting on Boychick being in the Virgin Islands protected by the NOI in November.
WestPalm4Hillary

I’d prefer to cast my vote for Nader, if only for the symbolism.

Since I’m in Florida, however, and since Obama has no chance here, I can vote for Donald Duck so long as the Democrats are not rewarded with my otherwise reliable vote.

They’ll have to register 5 college kids on the hope that one can be torn from their bong long enough in November to cancel me out!

sjc-tx

WRITE IN HILLARY’S NAME.

WestPalm4Hillary

Florida doesn’t allow you to write-in candidates.

scott

In Florida write-ins are allowed but will not count unless candidate files in advance.

http://www.writehillaryin.com

workingclass artist

Make your votes count…Now some guy is running on the libertarian ticket…If that cuts into McCain…means Barry the fascist has a shot.
SEND A REAL MESSAGE TO THE DNC IN NOV. VOTE GOP IF BARRY SUCCEEDS WITH THE COUP…

derridog

No.Vote for Cynthia McKinney, the Green Candidate. Then you can vote progressively and send a message at the same time.
Judith

I’m with you, wc artist.

workingclass artist

Derridog…voting Nader does nothing…hate to say it but the Green Party is an international party and will not gain the kind of #’s necessary to have serious political sway….This is not a dig at the Green Party or it’s platform…It is just a fact that is current…If you want to send a MESSAGE THAT THE DNC WILL HEAR…REGISTER AS GOP FOR THIS NATIONAL ELECTION….IF YOU CAST A VOTE FOR MCCAIN IT WILL STOP BARRY….
IN MY OPINION STOPPING FASCISM IS MORE IMPORTANT TO THE IMMEDIATE THREAT…McCain may be many things…But he is not UNAMERICAN…. and he is not a RACIAL SUPREMATIST…
( my hope is that HRC gets the nomination…Time will tell )
** Any vote to either a libertarian or Nader or write in would most likely give advantage to OBAMA…IMHO…**

http://www.arguewitheveryone.com ChrisXP

I’d prefer to cast my vote for Nader, if only for the symbolism.

Ohhhh, that’s cruel. Me likes.

Come to think about it, Nader maybe a nice way to protest. Don’t think social Dems could vote for McInsane, but they could stomach Nader better.

It has a added psychological benefit: as Dems blame Nader for helping to lose the 2000 election. That’s a really cruel way of telling the DNC to “shove it” — “screw me, and I’ll screw you.”

Dawnelle

That was PERFECT!! I agree COMPLETELY!

RIGHT ON!

workingclass artist

I disagree…TOTALLY….Otherwise why don’t we hear about NADER DEMOCRATS twenty years later….IF YOU WANT TO PROTEST AND BE HEARD….REGISTER GOP FOR THE GE IFCLINTONDOES NOT GET THE NOD.

THE REASON REAGAN DEMOCRATS IS PART OF THE POLITICAL LEXICON IS BECAUSE THEY VOTED IN PROTEST….THE ANTIDOTE WAS THE CLINTON/GORE ADMINISTRATIONS…CALL YOURSELF CLINTON DEMOCRATS IF YOU LIKE….BUT MAKE IT COUNT…MAKE IT HURT….

DancingOpossum

bubbleboy, it’s your candidate’s supporters that need to evince some “human decency.” After all, you need us — or rather, you need our votes. We don’t need anything from you, our minds are already made up. We aren’t trying to convince you to switch to our side, we don’t give a rip — you, however, need us to join the Unity Party. So I suggest if there is any humility and conciliation, it needs to come from your side, but your comments here make it clear that that won’t hapen. So good luck with that 48-state strategy, good luck with your McGovernite coalition, and good luck with another Republican administration.

bubbleboy

“My candidate” has not been selected yet. I’m waiting for the fight for the nomination to end before my candidate is decided.

I find it strange that you could spend even a minute of your time in this blog and still believe that Obama’s supporters are the only lacking any decency. I mean surely we all have our biases, but if you don’t see the ugly side of humanity here, you’re just not looking.

Hey, if you think McCain would be better than Obama, you’re welcome to believe that and I’m not about to try and convince you otherwise. I just wish you all could sell your candidate without salting the earth. She really doesn’t have to go out like this you know.

beebop

You’re a little like the drunk who doesn’t understand how the car wreck came to him.

You came here. It is pretty clear from the lady’s picture in the upper right hand corner where we shake out. If you can look back at the way this campaign has been waged and tell us that she has received equal FAIR treatment — I am thinking about things like her tax returns where he went on and on and on for an ETERNITY saying that it would SHOW WITHOUT A DOUBT where all her money came from and you know what? I’m still waiting to hear anything about that. He’s the Democratic plumber in this campaign. The only reason he hasn’t thrown the sink is that he’s too under developed physically to lift it up to do so.

bubbleboy

You’re a little like the drunk who doesn’t understand how the car wreck came to him

Actually I think a more apt car wreck analogy would be a gawker at the scene of an accident who is horrified by the carnage but cannot look away.

If you think that demanding financial transparency of a presidential candidate is “unfair” well, then I guess our country has been running cruel and unfair elections for years now.

beebop

I hope you’re not stupid, so I guess you missed the point.

It wasn’t necessary to assume that there would be anything “hidden” in her income tax returns. This has been an Obamanation tactic from the get go. Allege, allege, allege.

bubbleboy

Considering the Clintons’ history of witholding non-incriminating evidence (see Whitewater and the Paula Jones sexual harrassment case), I don’t think anyone was too surprised that the tax returns didn’t reveal anything.

As long as Hillary witheld that information from the public record, it was fair game for Obama to allege whatever he likes and leave it up to Hillary to set the record straight. Politics, politics, politics.

beebop

So, what are we to deduce that Mr. I Change my Story is hiding in the documents from the Illinois Senate? I still am banking on the fact that someone he stepped on on the way up has those documents. And we will find out. It may be too late for Hillary, but it will all come out. Karl Rove has a bigger budget for that kind of thing!

PoliticalWaif

Rude comments, as some here do with opposition commenters, will not hurt Hillary in the least, Bubbleboy.

Were candidates judged by their supporters (as in associates) Obama would not be touted by the media as the leader today. If such serious of relationships are laughed off as “diversions” and unable to harm BHO, just what damage do you think citizen commenters on blogs can do?
Deep Truths

Hey bubblehead,

Look at it this way, Clinton supporters believe we can win. Your guy says he’s already WON yet he’s still campaigning – in FL and MI no less.

Go back and tell your fellow Obama-nuts to strap on their helmets and get ready to rumble in Denver.

And even if The Prescious steals it or buys it, he’s still going to lose in November. The REAL DEMOCRATS will make sure of that.

bubbleboy

Yes, the “real democrats” will reveal themselves as such …by seeing to it that a democrat loses an election. This election is indeed about “change”, isn’t it?

Deep Truths

I bet you don’t know one specific change your Leader wants. After all its only ‘words’.

One thing REAL DEMOCRATS know is American history – the good, bad and the ugly. We’ve had the Civil War, civil rights, women’s rights, and gay rights. These are noble and just causes in noble and great country.

The ‘change’ Obama followers is as hollow as his speeches. What are parameters; “change” as opposed to what? Chicago-style politics versus Washington…yeah, riight.

High School seniors and college kids know nothing of struggles blacks, women and gays had to go through to achieve the rights and opportunities they have today. The young only know how to MIMIC and or only in tune to what’s hip, what’s cool. Right now, its the Chocolate Man and he asks for you to repeat after him: “Hope and Change”
‘Obama, big brother, Obama, big brother’.

You’ve been used by this Con Man, and blacks will soon realize it too. You and your ilk need to read Modern American History and 20th century History with particular emphasis on megalomanics such as Adolf Hitler.

Hitler and the Brownshirts. Read, comprehend and compare – it should change your world view.

mimi

Hey bub,

We learned our lessons well from Obama supporters way back in December.

Anybody got a pin for his bubble??
http://www.arguewitheveryone.com ChrisXP

I just wish you all could sell your candidate without salting the earth. She really doesn’t have to go out like this you know.

You’re a classic example of a typical snarky Obamatic. Probably living at home off your parents income, having zero self-respect in doing so.

Perhaps the best image of an Obamatic is a sponge.

No rubber ducky for you.

DancingOpossum

Ugh, “happen” not “hapen.” I’m bumblin’ and stumblin’ like Obama the Democratic Dubya…
http://cannonfire.blogspot.com Joseph Cannon

I’d advise against demonizing the word “liberal.” What Krugman calls the “liberal consensus” held bipartisan sway in the years 1945-1980, and those were the best years this country had.

I now shun the word “progressive.” The progressive movement has become a means of injecting Libertarianism into the Democratic party. Riverdaughter is one of the few who understands this, which is one reason why I recomment the Confluence. (http://riverdaughter.wordpress.com/)

If you are fervently anti-Obama and anti-Kos, but only lukewarm toward Hillary, you may want to check out my own humble site, Cannonfire. (http://cannonfire.blogspot.com) As I recently explained to a reader, I don’t view the Hillary-versus-Barky battle as a simplistic contest between Good and Evil. I view it as a simplistic contest between Tolerable and Evil. My primary targets are the progressive bloggers, who have become monstrous.

Pretty soon, I hope to present more info on the O-Bot shennanigans during the Texas caucus…

hammeringspammers

I understand you’re point, but my concern is of the three candidates, only Clinton can begin to understand the mess that was created, starting with Reagan, if not before.

All those years of BAD foreign policy have now come home to roost, and it will take a brilliant person to work it out.

I want to know, though, why McCain, say, won’t support the GI bill, and why he caved to Cheney, in regard to torture.

Looks, oh hell, IS weak.

And if we call oput Obama on not being capable of standing up to the stress, well, Mccain can’t either.

hammeringspammers

And I’m a bumblin and a stumblin like the dancing opossum…

Your, and out.

Sorry.

apishapa

I read Cannonfire religiously. I am an unapologetic liberal. Always have been. I truly believe that Hillary is so much more dedicated to the issues that matter to me like Social Security, Women’s issues, universal healthcare, and on and on, than Obama it would be a betrayal of everything I believe in to vote for Barack Obama under any circumstances.

He is a lair and a phony. And maybe a crook. I don’t know if I can bring myself to vote for McCain, but I will never vote for Obama. McKinney is looking better all the time. So is Nader.

I’ve never defined myself as a progressive, because I don’t even know what that means, I’m a proud liberal. But those nutcases claiming to be the liberal left right now are dirtying the cause.
workingclass artist

Well Cannon….might I suggest Dallas, Texas and in particular the Oak Cliff precincts….South and West Dallas as well….Underage teenagers caucusing in the precincts….Spring Texas as well….To name a few
http://www.arguewitheveryone.com ChrisXP

I’d advise against demonizing the word “liberal.”

It already is demonized. It means this for half the country:

Anti-American; anti-country; anti-military; anti-God; anti-family; anti-law; anti-police; anti-[quality] education; anti-NASA.

It became that way when the Moonbat wings of the DP was allowed to define it.

sjl106

obama is going to be campaigning in MI & FL this week, you know the to states he has been disenfranchising by refusing a revote? Moveon has national GE ads running for him, H has told the people of WV, OR, MT, SD, KT, and PR to fuck off they don’t matter in this. Anyone live in these states? Make it know who makes the decision!
karen for Clinton

Hey as Jack Nicholson, a Hillary supporter said…

You can’t handle the truth!!!

When they are talking bad about you, you are on the right track.

Run lemmings run. The Cliff is in WV tomorrow.

then KY, then expect some more ass kicking democratic style wins.

And don’t tell us WV don’t matter – we know SWING states count!
karen for Clinton

oh and go check out Talk Left too, he has the quote of the day from OBambi. I fought against Nam, he just threw me under that big garbage truck of his again. I got tread marks galore from Obama.

oh and just because you all dissed Maya:

Rise Hillary Rise.
DC Guy

Would you ever consider promoting a write-in campaign for Hillary, should Obama win the nomination? (as in, write-in “Hillary Clinton” on the general election ballot). It’s probably a very fractious thing to do (for the Democratic Party), but I bet a lot of Hillary supporters who’ve been embittered by the negative slant towards Hillary in the media and by the Obama campaign, would do it. I know I will.

Thanks for all of your support to Hillary, Larry…I’m thankful that you’re out there.

http://www.illusionofjoy.net Seth Warren

Personally, I like the option of a write-in campaign for Hillary much better than the alternatives. If I tried to hold my nose and vote for Obama at this point, I’d likely cause tissue damage to my face. Furthermore, I just can’t vote for McCain – not directly, anyhow.

There is a website – http://www.writehillaryin.com/ – that promotes this mindset.
sjc-tx

http://www.writehillaryin.com/

http://IthinkIfeel... Tricia

YAY!!!!!!!!!!! We may make a dent in that Tefon yet! I hope the American poeple are lucky enough for that to happen!
SensibleWoman

I haven’t seen anybody write about it, but I’ve wondered if anybody else has considered Venezuela’s role in the oil industry, Chavez’s middle east connections, Richardson’s visit to VE after endorsing BO, and BO’s connection to Rezko as well as his weak stance on others in the middle east.

Also, why is Cuba letting Cubans have a peek of the world outside of Cuba lately? Do they hope to give Cubans the impression the rest of the world is coming around to Castro’s views?
Charles Lemos

here are some profiles of Obama’s bundlers:

Reed Hundt & Ari Emanuel

Gracie & Robert Cavnar

also more on Obama’s lobbyist connections:

Duplicity from Obama
Kathy

I think our senators and congressmen are up to something. They know more than they are telling. I think we should vote out all incombants this year all over the United States.

mimi

“I think we should vote out all incombants this year all over the United States.”

I think we should too.

derridog

Okay. But let’s spell it incumbents.

sjc-tx

http://www.writehillaryin.com/

This has been on the go for while.
ginaswo

did Obama donate the Rezko donations to Trinity? the amount of his deduction on his taxes was 22500 someodd dollars and the contribution from Rezko was a similiar number IIRC…
glennmcgahhee

Here’s one. I haven’t the time to write it, but it regards Obama’s supposed little people financing his campaign. Its actually bundlers on Wall Street.
http://globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=8073
Judith

Hurray No Quarter, Larry and Susan and other feature writers! I’ve been on the road. Had breakfast in the lobby this a.m., therefore had to watch CNN on the bigscreen. It absolutely made me ill…the headline was “Will It Matter If Hillary Wins W.V.”…the commentary was positive, but that screaming headline was misleading. Home now and back to NoQuarter…no more cable news.
xdcc

Obama is a Trojan-horse. Expose his plans to destroy our sovereignty and founding principles.

Obama’s Bill – S.2433: Global Poverty Act. Is only the beginning of Obama’s destruction

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Gary McGowan

Thank you! ((((smooch))))

If interested people find the above link method too challenging after two or three tries,

It’s $5 for online get here. (And the authors surely deserve your support, if you are able.) Book description here. Can buy actual physical book if you prefer too.

Free here if you have or are comfortable with a BitTorrent client.

Sammie

Okay, Most items have been mentioned already, but there could be some benefit to simplifying or outlining the available information (one master outline that could cite various other references for additional/back-up information). There’s so much stuff it’s hard to fully understand it and/or keep track of it all.

Key issues such as:

*Unsavory Associations: could possibly be split into various categories (questionable religious figures/radicals/anti-Americans, Hamas/PLO connections and associates tied to corruption/Tony Rezko — although it does appear some ties overlap)

*Political Favors: chicago associates who Obama exchanged favors with

*Contributions: where are his campaign contributions coming from and is any coming from overseas

*Questionable activities by Advisors: summary of advisers who’ve been let go or involved in controversies

*Superdelegates: names and $ amounts for superdelegates he has bought (oops, contributed to)

*Lies, misstatements of facts, exaggerations and ommissions: summary of actual lies and answers which were misleading (like Ayers is a guy in my neigborhood — Mr. Rogers he’s not)

*Questionable Get Out the Vote Tactics for both caucuses and primaries: a summary of any questionable behavior

*Misleading Advertising: summary of misleading advertising claims

*Attack Line: could cite existing attack line against Clinton

*Accomplishments: a realistic list of accomplishments (resume) versus what he claims to have done

*Lobbyists: summarize lobbyist ties

*Cave ins (couldn’t think of a better term): any legislative actions (votes or redrafting) which seem attributable to pressure from outside sources

*Books: summary of any information from his books which might be used against him

So much information is out there, it’s important to pull it all together, verify it’s accuracy and start pushing it out into the main stream media.
yheitman

Sorry, guys but you’re going to have to hold your nose and vote for McCain or he will not win against Barky. If the Abomination gets the nomination all the write-in votes for Hillary, Nader, or whoever are all one less vote for McCain and then there’s a good chance that Barky will take it all. Remember, there is a very powerful force behind him that is propelling him to the White House and we cannot discount it. So as distasteful as it is, vote for McCain. We can take another 4 years of a Republican because at least the devil you know than the devil that you don’t know. I think McCain is lot more moderate than he’s letting on and I think some of the things he’s saying right now about torture and more conservative judges are all words to swing the Republican vote his way. Remember the “Evil O” will destroy this nation and I see McCain as the lesser of the two evils. McCain is old and he’ll only be in for one term and then our girl can run again. By the way, have some faith! Somehow I think Hillary will pull it out but just in case remember what I’ve said.

Our slogan can be: No to the Abomination for the Nomination!
bc

What about the 57 states slip? Perhaps it was just a matter of his being tired, but the USA has 50 states – it’s the OIC (Organisation of the Islamic Conference)that has 57.

yheitman

Yeah, what about the Great Lakes comment in Oregon. He doesn’t even know where the Great Lakes are located let alone know how many states the are in the Good Ol’ USA.

Amalia

list of multiple answers for one question.
he does not give a straight answer
1) Rezko….sooooo many answers to cloud the
reality

2) Wright same thing

3) Safe Neighborhoods vote, at least
three different answers for why he was
not there to vote, maybe more

I think the multiple answer thing is related
to the “cave in” issue. he has to lie creatively,
by omitting things, covering later. he often
commits the error by omission.

The Chicago Tribune had a great article on his
personal finances. It disputed that his student
loans were larger than his mortgage, said his
credit card was turned down for a purchase in 2000
for a car rental at the DNConvention. A simple
list of what he made and when he made it shows
how he lies about his own personal ability to
purchase. article on web on a sunday a few weeks
ago. don’t believe it was in print.
http://Reddragon62.blogspot.com/ RedDragon62

The Crown family also owns Material Service Corp. it’s a Sand and Gravel Empire. They have their hands into ALL the road projects here in Illinois and the surrouding States. Think about this for a minute. Besides owing General Dynamics, Raythoen and a few others…I’ll be blogging on that soon..They Have been supporting Barky for years!!!!! WHY?
http://threatsandintimidation drkate

I think this is a good project, and we should catalogue his tricks for threat and intimidation…like fundraising for supers; calling people racist; threating riots and break up of the party; and his field thuggery. There are lots of stories out there.
ed

Wow! Did all of the Kennedy assassination and 9/11 conspiracy enthusiasts give up those interests and start “investigating” Sen. Obama? The level of paranoia expressed by some here is genuinely frightening. Let’s use Occam’s razor and view the unfortunate fact that the Clinton campaign was simply poorly conceived and poorly executed (running as an incumbent would and starting her run in the center as though the general election was her first concern. When this plan failed, there was never a coherent replanning, just rapid runs to various positions, reinforcing the notion that the Clinton’s will do or say anything for power). Please delete if you are offended by the rather obvious truth.
KATHERINE

Senator Obama,

You state that you are for change and not old politics, but in the midst of a very tight race you are pressuring your opponent to drop out. Your victories have not been a landslide by any means. Especially, considering voters in two states are being disenfranchised because you do not want to collaborate with your opponent’s campaign and allow a reelection. Proposals to allow a mail-in-ballot and fire house polling have been pushed aside while you claim you want to be the leader of all Americans. Even President Bush allowed for all the votes to be counted during the chad scandal. He didn’t demand votes be ignored.

Your claim that you were not aware of Reverend Wright’s beliefs as you sat in his church pews for twenty years. You either lack good judgment, or where taking advantage of Wright’s clout in the African-American community in order to be elected to the Illinois” Senate and later as the Senator for Chicago. You stated he was “like family” and even used the title of one of his sermons as the title for your book, yet you instantly disowned him after he became a liability to your campaign.

You have made elitist statements regarding the working middle class by stating, “They cling to their guns and their religions,” and that you do not need the “typical” democratic voters to win the White House because you appeal to the wealthy, higher educated, and African-American voters. How can you write off such large majority of voters? Your single working mother may have been on food stamps, but that does not mean you identify with those struggling today, or even remember where you came from.

Your wife, Michelle, claims we pass negative energy from one generation to the next, yet her comments are so enflamed with hate. During a speech she said, in a recent rally in a North Carolina, that while at a local beauty shop a little 10-year-old girl broke down in tears and began sobbing uncontrollably after stating that she thought she could grow up to be anything she imagined since Michelle’s husband was Barack was running for President of the United States of America. Michelle then went on to say, “She was crying big huge tears and I had to think, why is this little girl crying so hard? I thought, you know, what’s going on? This little girl gets it. That’s what’s going on. The little 10-year-old girl knows what’s at stake. She knows that she’s already five steps behind. She knows that her hopes for college are already dwindling. She knows that if she gets sick, maybe she has an asthma attack. Instead of going to a doctor and being treated, she’s going to be sitting in an emergency room for hours… She knows that the bar has been moved far, far away from her. She feels the veil of impossibility and it’s suffocating her.”

Michelle then stated, “I’m not supposed to be here. That was a statistical oddity. As a black girl raised on the south side of Chicago I wasn’t supposed to be here. I wasn’t supposed to go to Princeton. They said my test scores were too low.” How does she equate getting into Princeton, an Ivy League University, with test scores that were “too low” for admittance as being a disadvantage? She didn’t even meet the proverbially “moving bar” she keeps referencing, yet she regales the experience as if it was a form of oppression.

Why does she think that little girl is five steps behind? Is Michelle suggesting that the little girl’s race is a big disadvantage? How can she suggest that not meeting required test scores for admittance, yet being admitted anyways, as her being oppressed? How will we, as a nation ever move forward if even our public figures are trying to create such a divide?

I will not refute that race, at times, can play a factor in an American’s overall opportunities, but race does not affect an American more than coming from an impoverished, uneducated, or broken household. There are vast opportunities in our nation to succeed and defy the odds. As a nation we have taken drastic measures over the last few decades to ensure all Americans are treated equally and that they have the same opportunities to achieve greatness.

You cannot claim you are for change if you spout the same rhetoric as other politicians or support un-American ideals. You cannot say that we as a nation need to move past race if your wife keeps making race the topic of her speeches. Especially, when she twists her own legitimate short falls, such as poor test scores, into being racial oppression fodder. You cannot say you are for the working poor and middle class and then dismiss a $30 gas tax savings as not enough to make a difference. $30 can mean a lot to a family struggling to buy food or pay bills. Only an elitist would right off what some consider a day’s pay as being insignificant. Some relief is better than no relief.

Respectfully,

A True American for Change
http://www.albarracin.com Alvaro Albarracin

666 The number of Wisdom

http://www.albarracin.com/2008/09/666-number-of-wisdom-and-prosperity.html
Ryan

umm just wondering if anyone can tell me what’s going on… my birthday is 11/12…which equals 23, my birth year is 1985, which adds up to 23, and it is my 23 birthday this year. if you take 2*3 and 2*3 and 2*3 that comes to 6+6+6. kind of crazy, considering I was born at 11:12 at menomonee falls hospital, on my mom’s 23rd year and I was the 23rd person born that morning, which would be another 6-6-6.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OaDVJUD59RM Chynna

superb! i’ve made my own blog
WestPalm4Hillary

Enough with the “100 years of war” crap. Everyone knows that is not what McCain meant, and if the Democrats insist on pushing that meme, they’re going to get egg on their face when McCain calls them out on it.

And for the record, “Scalias” on the bench can only happen if Democrats are complicit in the Senate… ya know, like Obama was who praised Bush’s nominees.

Same thing with “tax cuts” — American Government 101: CONGRESS controls the purse, NOT the President.

Healthcare proposals? HA! Swap “subsidies” for “tax cuts” and Obama’s and McCain’s plans are basically the same.
beebop

In the eighth inning, a team is ahead in baseball and still loses in extra innings.

“Being ahead” isn’t the standard by which one wins. You guys are just plain dense. I understand that in the past Obama has had people’s names removed from ballots, jammed people up in caucuses and used other dirty tactics. But everyone is watching now.

Why is it that all of the super delegates haven’t broken for him if he’s the winner? Does it occur to you that maybe people just don’t think he’s qualified to do the job?
WestPalm4Hillary

Too little, too late “Ned.”

BTW, if you think quoting the “First Losers Club” of support for Obama by men who have tried and FAILED to win the presidency in the past, you’re not making a very strong case.

The Wright wing of the party needs to be amputated and tossed off. Like I said, you are to the Democrats what evangelicals are to the Republicans – EMBARASSMENTS that weild power that is not reflective of the majority of Americans, or where America “is” politically.

The Democratic establishment is ALSO using “you all” as a cash cow as well, just as the Republicans use the evangelicals.

Say Hello to President McCain, because you’re “coalition” of African Americans, Rich liberal eggheads and college kids just isn’t going to do it after you’ve alienated Clinton supporters, blue collars, and white voters. We won’t come running back to you like abused wives, either our of “fear”… though that visual is sadly very appropriate.