Democrat with a Spine West Virginia Morning Open Thread

This was intended for secularhumanizinevoluter, sorry about the misplacement.

Good Morning, West Virginia!

Almost heaven .

Didn’t you guys get the memo? West Virginia doesn’t count. It’s not like it’s Kansas or Idaho or Wyoming, after all. If Hillary doesn’t win by at least 4-1, she has to withdraw. West Virginia isn’t important to Democratic success in November. West Virginians are Racists. The Election is Over. Hillary is hurting the party. Up is Down. Black is White. Did you say “Black?” You are a racist.

–The preceding was brought to you today courtesy of the Obamabot TalkingPoint3000, available at your local Radio Shack or NBC affiliate, and as advertised on Air America Radio.

I will order a t-shirt as soon as I get paid on Friday! No Quarter Hillary! No Quarter!

Will the MSM even report the results tonight – other than an aside in one of their shows?

Last week CNN had a “new year’s eve” countdown so they could all shout Obama wins NC!

ALL THE WAY TO DENVER HILLARY…..

Yes!

Hahahahaha.

CNN reports that Republicans are voting in the WV primary.
These Republicans say they are voting for Obama to narrow the margin.

Oh no kidding. Talk about holding up a loser. In the end you still can’t make a silk purse out of a sow’s ear.

Doesn’t surprise me.

They’ll “report” it the same way they “reported” the Michigan and Florida results- by sneering “nothing to see here” and explaining why, despite the huge margin for Hillary, the race is basically unchanged.

Notice how the media ALWAYS does this? “Hillary won, sort of, but here’s how she really didn’t…” Expect more of the same tonight.

They want Barry. Bad. Secretly, it would be a blast to watch him bleeding from every major orifice.

Meanwhile, in Oregon…you MUST see this portrayal of Obama…it will make you laugh…or make you fearful..

Williamette, Oregon Weekly’s HILARIOUS Portrayal of Obama

http://insightanalytical.wordpress.com/

I’m serious, you MUST SEE THIS!!

They don’t bother her at all. Do you know why? I don’t either, but I’m sure she does.

Time just isn’t Barry’s friend.

I wish he would have put the heart of gold on the front.

ROFL! so true.

One good thing about this primary, I’ve gotten to learn about US geography. I haven’t been able to travel to every state in the US yet. But being called a “Geno’s cheesesteak eater” because I support Hillary, has introduced me to Philly. I guess I’m also from Appalachia, which I wasn’t aware extended all the way to the West coast, but whatever. I also learned that people in Iowa don’t like arugula any better then we latte drinking, garlic nosed, prius drivers do.

Hell of a unity candidate we got here. Is there a box he hasn’t tried to stuff us in yet?

Heard Chris Matthews on MSNBC this morning say to David Axelrod, as they were cutting to break, “West Virginia’s going to be a problem, isn’t it?”

Axelrod: “Yes, it is.”

I could not stand Bob Barr during the Clinton impeachment hearings. I do not agree with many of Bob Barr’s right-wing positions.

I do know, however, that Bob Barr loves his country.

I do know that Bob Barr believes in upholding the Constitution.

I do know that Bob Barr believes in a balanced budget.

Obama won’t wear a flag lapel pin.

Obama doesn’t know how many states there are in the U.S.

Obama associates with Anti-American (“God Damn America”) religious fanatics who spew racial hatred against “white Europeans.”

Obama is a friend of militant Louis Farrakhan.

If I thought Obama loved his country I would vote for him should Hillary lose, but Obama and his militant buddies spew anti-American hatred.

I would vote for Bob Barr LOOOONNNNGGGG before I would ever, ever vote for Barack Obama.

It is about Anti-American hatred, not race.
______________________________

In the mean time, GOOOOOO Hillary!

I am going to keep repeating this, and I would love to hear what others think.
I agree it is early, and know anything can happen. However – it’s not too early to begin thinking about this:

Hillary running as Independent or, even better, as third party. How about as Women’s Party – that includes men, of course – but that recognizes misogyny in this country and need for change in women’s voices being heard. Maybe with AA woman as VP. (Sheila Jackson-Lee, Shirley Tubbs Johnson, Maxine Waters). Bring in AA voters who are being used by Obama.
This would be real change – and would show DNC in a strong way NOT to take us for granted ever again, that we are not the abused woman stereotype, that we don’t go back to our abuser when he calls and offers us – Nothing?!!! That we have power and they need us more than we need them, that they better make us very happy, give us what we need, LISTEN when we talk. Or f— that, that we are in charge. There are more of us than men. It would be a powerful coalition. Repub women would join, too. What group has higher numbers, more potential power, and would work for life-affirming values for all people because it is in our DNA because of giving birth to life.
There was a time when women ruled, and the cultures were life affirming, peaceful, productive, and intelligent.
When I think of the situation of the world today and think of Obama or McCain trying to fix it, I want to laugh – but mostly cry.
I think such a ticket could beat both of those boyz.
Or, if not (too dreamy? maybe) – then how about Hillary and a male VP. Maybe AA male. Or white. That’s okay, too.
Either could win.
This country – and world- cannot afford Obama or McCain now.
I don’t want those to be my choices.

No kidding. The first thing I see when I log onto MSN this morning is that Obama foot soldiers are receiving death threats and bomb threats in WV. Where the hell has the MSM been over the past six to eight months on how we were treated? God, they can dish it out, but God forbid, they get ataste of their own medicine. But to tell the truth, I have a hard time seeing little old ladies going one on one with Barky’s colege goon squad.

The WV vote will only give the MSM another grand “Hillary bashing” night of slapping the Hillary pinata.

Don’t forget, they don’t need us because the college boys will get more college boys to register to vote and everything will be peachy for Obama in the GE. No, really. Many red states will magically turn blue because Obama is The One. And soon Obama will control the entire Democratic party because he’ll have all the money from all the grateful people in the USA.

My ass. In fact, Obama and all his little Otrolls can start practicing… waving goodbye.

Oh, I forgot… great t-shirts. I love black… it hides years of grazing at cheap buffet tables.

WHY? Just why? It looks like the cover of a cheap soft core porn novel for lonely house wives.

Oh what a bunch of crap. These people are constantly in victim mode. I hope they keep it up. By the time November rolls around, with another couple of thousand Race Cards played, people will be racing to the the polls.

LOL.

Great. when WV’ers see it, the vote for McCain will be a HUNDRED percent. I swear these nutcases are doing all the work for the Republicans.

A few more things -

Yes, I know it’s premature and Hillary could still get nomination. But I am so sick of Democratic Party at this point, at how they have treated both Clintons, and by extension, and even more important, how they have treated us, the voters, our coalition which includes women, white working class, AA voters who cannot stand Obama, Latinos, Catholics, Asians, older people. They don’t want us, don’t count us, don’t appreciate us. They’ve been a disappointment for a while. Look what they’ve done since 2006 election – nothing.
And don’t overlook the power of even the threat of this happening.
They think we have nowhere to go so they continue to take us for granted. They will not even offer Hil the VP slot. And, no, I don’t think they ever will. That’s a big f-you to all of us. They don’t even try to pander to us. Yeah, maybe they’ll give us Pelosi or Sebelius if we really make a lot of noise.
It’s been time for a new party for a long time. Obama is just a symptom of the prob lems of the Dem party. His candidacy is just making them visible. It no longer represents us. Working blue-collar knew this in 1980. They had nowhere to go so they chose Reagan, who was even worse. But they knew no other way to express their frustration. That’s where we are now.
Both Obama or McCain would be disaster.
Complaining and venting on these blogs is fine – but it gets very old. We need a plan of action.
They are afraid of AA riots in Denver. One more reason they’ll try to withhold nomination for Clinton. It’s time they were afraid of us.
And even if she did lose this, they would know we are a voice to be reckoned with. We could take back our power.

I am skeptical….Sounds like that Columbia professor who tied a noose and draped it on her door to avoid a ethics investigation….Oh Brother

Republicans are not aloud to vote in the Dem primary in WV. Only independents. If you have information, please report it to the Clinton campaign right away.

When/who reported this on CNN?

They will be afraid of us AFTER the convention, when McCain opens up a 20-point lead. They’ll be afraid of us AFTER McCain wins the election with 58% of the vote and over 400 electoral college votes. They’ll be afraid of us AFTER the Dems lose control of the House and Senate because millions of us stayed home on Election day and refused to vote for the people who not only abandoned Hillary but felt compelled to dump all over her and her husband.

I never thought I could look forward to seeing my party take a beating, but this is really not my party anymore. I don’t know what it is. Now I know what millions of Republicans must have felt like in 1964.

I believe that a third party would be attractive, but it takes time and will to truly set it up right. It has to be about more than a candidate to be successful.

A moderate party, fiscal conservatives, social liberalism, and an eye on national security would, I believe, be successful.

But it has to be established in the most legitimate way possible.

Therefore, next time?

I would definitely work hard for such a new group.

I would love to see a little old lady with a cane giving Barak’s thugs the what for. As an aside, I remember reading about a thug breaking into an elderly lady’s home. While he was trying to assault her, she grabbed him by the privates and forced the whimpering piece of excrement to crawl out of her house. She held on until help came (not that she needed it). I think of her and Barak’s goons, and I smile!

YOU ARE CORRECT…HENCE THE REAGAN DEMOCRATS 20 YEARS LATER.

I would, too. A Centrist Party is exactly what we need. It would attract voters from both parties and neutralize the far left and the far right.

Oh gawd. It does look like the cover of a romance novel. What’s he doing in that drawing, walking on water?

I wonder how long before the velvet paint by numbers Obama kits come out?

What exactly would it take for Hillary to start such a party? Or for her to run as an Independent? That would be fine, too, if that is faster and easier.
I truly believe that we don’t have the luxury of waiting for next time. It would be more about Hillary running than a third party, but her running successfully would make a third party viable. I think that’s the only way it could be viable. She would certainly get more votes than Nader. There would not be the “spoiler” aspect there was with Nader since so many people can’t stand Obama and would vote for McCain.
Even if she lost it would shake things up and show that we (her coalition) are a force to be reckoned with, not stepped on and played and manipulated. That there are some of us who see through their game.
What do the rest of you think? Does anyone know logistics for running Independent?
I know that Hil would have to be convinced but so far the Dem party has offered her nothing. I fear they will offer her nothing, even ostracize her. They will all be afraid of their Golden Boy. They have never thought much of the voters, otherwise they would have put up more than one winning ticket.
BTW, I can see Bill going for it. He really is a maverick and a risk-taker (at least that is my impression). Dems have already destroyed his legacy. Neither of them has to stay in the party, they can do whatever they want, there’s enough money. They must be hurting at how Dems have thrown them under the bus.
Freedom’s just another word for nothin’ left to lose.

They will be afraid of us AFTER the convention, when McCain opens up a 20-point lead. They’ll be afraid of us AFTER McCain wins the election with 58% of the vote and over 400 electoral college votes. They’ll be afraid of us AFTER the Dems lose control of the House and Senate because millions of us stayed home on Election day and refused to vote for the people who not only abandoned Hillary but felt compelled to dump all over her and her husband.”

This is why I am not for an Independent Hillary run as attractive as that might seem. I’d be too afraid of splitting the vote and Obama “sneaking in the backdoor with those crazy hoodlum friends of his.” We have no guarantee that all the people who support Hillary now would vote for her as a 3rd Party and with all these new voters Obama is registering, mathmatically that could pose a problem. It’s just math. I’m sure they’d like to see her do just that so that they could really pull a fast one Chicago style.

I know the idea of a Republican is painful but it’s the only option that we have. We have to deal with that painful reality and pray that McCain comes back to his centric senses once he’s POTUS.

BINGO….. MIMI…BINGO…

But then we’ll have to suffer with four years of McCain and all the harm he will do.
Why not fight back before it’s too late?
It doesn’t even have to be a third party – just Hillary running Independent to stop Obama and McCain.
Why not? Do you really think she couldn’t win?
BTW, I don’t think Obama is left-wing at all. He is just another corporate shill pretending to be on the side of the people. Otherwise, why would the media be pushing him?

As the obscenities have continued to be hurled at Hillary, and about Hillary, I have sometimes wondered at the silence coming from the Obama supporters who are so quick to yell, “Racist” every time someone says anything at all critical about Obama.

I hope the Obama supporters are not as stupid as they seem, because it is perfectly okay to criticize a politician in America (as I have relentlessly criticized Bush) and such criticism is NOT racist unless it IS racist.

If someone says Obama is dishonest about something and provides the reasons why that statement is true, it is absolutely nuts to call that person a racist. Yet, that is what Obama supporters do.

But back to the insults that have, daily, been hurled at Hillary Clinton, a former First Lady and currently a twice-elected senator from New York.

I have to wonder if Randi Rhodes had called Barack Obama a f_______ n______, what kind of commotion that would have caused.

Let me tell the Obama worshipers something. Women consider being called a whore or a “ho” or a bitch every bit as bad as a black person considers being called a n_____.

So, where has been the outrage from the Obama supporters?

Silence.

In fact, it IS the Obama supporters who have been calling Hillary Clinton a bitch and a “ho” and a whore.

Shame on the Obama supporters who do this.

Shame on them for joining in the name-calling directed at Hillary AND at her supporters, and shame on them for their silence when others did the name-calling.

I think they are all disgusting.

I will not miss seeing advertisements for T-shirts that bear the slogan “Bros before Hos.” The shirts depict Barack Obama (the Bro) and Hillary Clinton (the Ho), and they are widely sold on the Internet.

http://www.commondreams.org/archive/2008/05/13/8917/

And any woman who says she does not mind being called a whore or a “ho” or a bitch ought to seek psychiatric help.

Blue Ridge Mountains

Shanandoah River…

USAToday

Of the 29 Democratic Party primaries held in states since the New Hampshire contest on Jan. 8 from which delegates have been allocated, Obama has won 15. But in doing so, he got a majority of the white votes in just five of the 29 contests. And while winning three of the eight primaries held since March 4, Obama won a majority of the white vote in only one — Vermont.

Last week, Obama got 40% of the white vote in Indiana, a state he narrowly lost to Clinton, who received 60% of the white vote. That same day, Obama beat Clinton by a 14-point margin in North Carolina, but managed to win just 37% of the state’s white vote. Clinton got 61% of the white vote. Obama’s margin of victory in contests where he has gotten less than a majority of the white vote has been produced by the overwhelming support of black voters.

Oh My! The Heaven’s have parted in sheer ecstasy! The shirt is open clear down to the navel…is this on E-Bay yet?????

Open Thread

A Fish in a Tank of Multi-Cultural Obama Kool-Aid;
(able to swim but unable to escape.)

Up until today, I was the local chapter president of my union. As Chapter President, I was invited to attend a “retreat”, in order to learn how to better perform the duties and obligation of the position I was elected to.
Everything was going great, learning how to do a better job, meeting all kinds of new and interesting people, exchanging ideas and experiences, until the Tuesday morning session.

That morning, the Keynote speaker was a person with an “expertise” in multi-culturalism and “diversity” training and has given presentations for many government agencies and major corporations.

(Authors note: To tell this story, I am required out of necessity to use ethnic distinctions, which as a normal rule I would refuse to do, out of a strong belief, that it is the content of a person’s character and the people they associate with, that is the measure of a human being. I ask for your forgiveness in advance. I have also changed names out of respect for the individuals involved. )

There where roughly 180 Chapter presidents in attendance, as well as the top elected state leadership, for my union, present for this event.

The keynote speaker was of Chinese decent and claimed to be a Buddhist.

He began by stating his full name and asked the audience which was his surname and which was his given name. After explaining the order of a Chinese name, he stated that one should always use the proper name of a person. He then asked an Asian union member what here name was. She responded, saying “Ellen”. “No, your Chinese name”, he says. The woman then volunteered her Mandarin “ethnic name”.

“How does that make you feel, that a person of Western European decent, gave you a name that they could pronounce?”, the keynote speaker asked rhetorically. She was notably uncomfortable.

He then, started going around he audience acting like a subtle misogynist. Asking the members of the audience to stand if they noticed what he was doing, mistreating the women in the hall, a dozen women stood up. I was the only man in the hall to stand up.
Turning back to the podium he said I was an “enlightened male”. A women I was sitting next to felt embarrassed and said “I knew what he was doing emotionally, but only afterwards realized it and I did not stand up.”

Through out the rest of his speech, he placed blame on people of “Western European extraction” for all the racial injustice in United States. I was growing increasing uncomfortable, being of “Western European extraction” and the target of this “white bashing”. I was made to feel like I was personally responsible for all the civil and racial injustices on the planet, due to the keynote speakers’ repeated inference, that white people were the cause of racism.
Asking a Latino American what bad names they were called as a child. Asking an African American what names they called. On and on it went, piling on the “white guilt”.

As this keynote speaker was closing, he asked groups of six to join hands and said the following;
“Just think of how we can change things. Do you realize we could have a woman, or a black person as president? McCain, Hillary, and Barak Obama, and Reverend Wright who was misquoted, and Barak Obama’s beautiful speech on Race, I hope we have this conversation…I hope we have this conversation.” (on race)

Something inside me “snapped”. This speaker had just used the Unions platform to endorse Barak Obama. As I can not convey his tone using words, I would ask the reader to keep in mind, the keynote speaker himself, said that one should use a persons full name. Notice he said “McCain, Hillary and Barak Obama. While he was saying this, my urge to walk out, which had been building for the entire presentation, reached a crescendo. I was trapped, however, because I had joined hands and was torn between leaving or not breaking the circle.

After everyone had filed out of the hall, and being agitated by the inference of “white guilt”, I approached the keynote speaker. Introducing myself, I said “I just wanted to show your family shines respect. I want you to know, I describe myself as a “meat eating Taoist”, since the age of 13 and I have a bone to pick with you. You never once mentioned indifference! And I would not, as a Taoist, wish to leave you with the impression I was an “enlightened male”, just a person who saw your attitude for what it was, nothing more.
He looked shocked and made the excuse that it was due his “cultural perspective”.
His chaperone then said they where due elsewhere and whisked him out of the hall.

At this point I raised several points with two members of the senior Union leadership. I asked if the Union had endorsed a presidential candidate, and was told they had not. If not, will the president repudiate the intentional inference that I was a racist and a historical bigot? I explained that Barak Obama had 11 of 30 low income Rezko housing units in his state senate district and claims he did not know the tenants were without heat and water for 6 weeks in a Chicago winter. These two people did not know any of this. I asked that he set the record straight and publically disavow the keynote speaker’s racist remarks. They returned several minutes later, saying the State President of the Union would talk to me about it.

Throughout the rest of Tuesday evening and all of Wednesday, the President of the Union did not even, so much as say ‘TeakWoodKite’ lets talk at such and such time about your concerns ” or I understand you are upset….”. He had many opportunities during this time and could have taken the initiative as President, to address the concerns of a constituent. He never did.

Late on Wednesday evening, I ran into the two people I had raised the issue with originally and asked where the President was, as I wished to speak with him regarding these issues.. I was told he was at unavailable and then I asked them “well, who was his boss”?. They responded he IS the boss.

Sound the buzzer! Wrong answer! The members of the Union are his boss, or at least I thought so up until that point.

The point being, that the union is about the workplace rights of union members and should have nothing to do with the political preferences of the members.

Since the president, an elected official, would not do me the professional courtesy and meet with me, I have resigned as Chapter President and will leave the union all together, based on the principled conclusion, that as a “meet eating Taoist”, the three most important values one can have are
1) Always view people as human beings and not the assertion or emphasis of cultural differences,
2) To ALLWAYS reject indifference, where ever it is found.
3) That service to others is “the way of the Tao”.

So I ask, What do Senator Barak Obama and Neo-Multi-culturalism have in common?

Bob Barr has been a pain the side for many years. But I always had some respect for him as I thought he was wrong headed/right hearted many times.

This is the same I feel for McCain.

I have no such respect for “Barry the Decojoned” (legend has it Michelle carries them in a jar).

I am holding on to reality by a thread. I am in total disbelief that we are re-enacting Bush.

Obama: The Barry Bush.

By the way, I’m convinced Barry is gay which makes my pun utterly delicious.

I wake up this morning to the L.A. Times front page, “Hanging on to Clinton Dream,” an article to set up that even though she’s going to win today, she still doesn’t have the “numbers” to win the nomination. It goes on to tell how “sad” all the women are who wanted to have a woman “President” and how our “dream” will never happen. And quotes one woman saying that she will never vote for…then her sister interrupts and says “a black man.” Like we’re all racists for not voting for him! Not because she’s the stronger candidate! This is the same drumbeat from the Press that got us into the Iraq war! I’m so f**king angry that I just snapped at my loving husband.

I feel like I can’t read ANYTHING! Are we in an episode of the Twilight Zone?

She doesn’t have the numbers, BUT neither does he! Are we going to have a DICTATOR leading our country, a man who takes the highest position by declaring he has won? What is wrong with everyone? I used to wonder how Germany got caught in the rule of Hitler, but I don’t wonder anymore.

Wow, TeakwoodKite, that was awesome. I’m sorry you got caught in the midst of that and I applaud you for your courage.

I’m starting to hate the two-party system, and I commiserate with those who want Hillary to launch a third-party run; however, I must go with Mimi and WCA on this one…

Splitting the vote can be dangerous, I’d rather see them all come begging in 2012.

Dear Teakwoodkite:

I am very proud of you.

The right road is always the rocky one without the signs.

I have known Obamas in my life. They have nothing in common with anyone. They are lonely on the inside and feel highly misplaced. To add, his mother and father gifted him with abandonment issues. Obama, above all else, is very insecure. He is terrified that we all will find out that he truly is a phony.

Unfortunately, he is being used by those who seek a power Obama cannot even dream of. He is a pawn. Of the Bush kind.

But this will all backfire on all of them. For Obama has no loyalty to anyone save himself. Not because he is evil, but because he is clueless and people will be writing on him as they have been all along (Wright/Michelle/Rezko)

I can spot a weak man at twenty paces.

Oh boy it is not about the numbers. It is about brokering a candidate. So long as it is not a woman and not a Clinton.

Amazing how much a strong woman scares some men.

Good call, WCA. I wouldn’t put anything past them.

Yo know, I really believe they want Obama as president, and those stupid Republicans in the field don’t’ understand how big oil has betrayed them.

So, they’re taking Rove’s methods, and applying them, like good little mindless soldiers they are, not understanding they’re being manipulated.

I really thought it was about electing McCain, but I’m convinced its’ about inroads into Africa, and African oil.

No way they let the Chinese and the Russians claim it.

And it maybe fatally flawed, but look what they did with Iraq, they just don’t get it.

Maybe it’s an oil showdown, old oil v the young turks…

TeakWoodKite,

None of this surprises me in the least. As a former union official at my own local, I can tell you these tactics are the same everywhere…

Unions use the same logic against their own members as the companies they purport to be protecting them against. Sadly, they have become machines of business.

This is not what they were created for, but it is what they have become.

I applaud your resignation as it shows true character and an insistence on being seen as an individual. That’s not what they want. They want you to fall in line and be quick about it. There’s just as much Kool-Aid being served there as over at Obama Headquarters.

There’s nothing subtle about what they are up to…it’s all about control and people like you are delivering up the minority report. They don’t like that in the least, it threatens their control.

That’s what such “team programs” and Obama’s “message” have in common…control.

I agree, but I think the point SB made was correct, they’re not used to having to defend, it’s all fun, until you have to actually fight, and risk real life loss.

“Democratic” San Francisco elite DO NOT like to work, and war is work, when you have an intelligent enemy, hell, even when you don’t.

And finding there are consequences for their actions is even worse, so they choose to stay in the pretend game, until they crash, for good.

aol straw poll, ran every monday……hillary is at 60% ohummer 40%…… this is a national poll for aol. how does the media and the press explain this ? the bloggers on aol do their best to bash hillary, but are unable to move that poll ! ha ha ha

Well, Obama is like a girl, remember someone made the point he’s like a teen idol, the kind 13 year old girls feel comfortable with, because he’s them, the argument being female journalists attracted to Obama are expressing lesbianism, and narcissism?

But then how to explain Russert, and Matthews and Olbermann, are they too female journalists, those with even bigger crushes on Obama?

Would that then make them OLD lesbians, as compared with their young counterparts?

And we all know what old lesbains like to read, Obama romance porn.

Uh huh, that’s right.

And there you are, the Obama romance novel for lonely OLD lesbos, Gertrude Stein if she were stupid, frumpy and a broadcast journalist for NBC.

Or woking for big oil.

It’s not really logistically possible. There would be an astronomical number of petition signature to get and time is very short for that. You have deadlines to get on the ballot. Besides, Hillary is a die hard real democrat. Her leaving the party is tantamount to giving it to Karl Marx. You can write hillary in if you want to. You can vote Mccain. You can vote for Nader. Whatever you do, do not stay home. It is important to vote agains Barack Obama so that these radicals once again understand the numbers are not with them in real life. It had to be done with McGovern. It had to be done with Dukakis. Now it has to be done again. We need to take our party BACK like we have all the other times, not leave it to these off the cliff radicals and the children they have duped.

It’s happened before. And always, it’s a losing proposition. The Democratic party will be taken back by the Sane again just like the last times. Truly this is deja vu. The only said part of it is that we could have elected a president instead of pandering to crackpots. BUt always, the lesson is learned in the end.

Big oil is known to fix elections, including republican ones.

Make sure you know what’s what, before you game.

I really think they want to go into Africa, and Barry is their guy.

If McCain is yours, watch it closely, you have A LOT of middle eastern ops in the Africa/Obama camp, the unthinkable CAN happen to republicans, too.

I would also venture Russians in his camp, the usual poppurri of stench.

They’ll do anything, and they’re not intimidated by republican oil, that is.

Oh AOL. LOL! Those people are crazy. Seriously, I think many of them log onto AOL from institutions during social therapy hour.

But what can you expect from Time Warner?

potpourri, sorry.

Another alternative is to vote the Green Party. Their platform very prominently includes feminism, and of course environmental issues. I will find it a lot easier to vote for them than McCain, since I agree with their values. If a lot of people did so, it would definitely raise a lot of eyebrows in the Democratic Party when Obama gets trounced and they see where the votes went.

hillarysmygirl,The Gringo’s Wife,Untilthelastdogdies, Thanks for your responses.

I am have been left to wonder about the exploitation of all ethinicities by making one of them the boogeyman. we are seeing the results of this BS on the body politic.

Tis not the future I want for my kids. It so far removed from the words of MLK and others.

Inline with BO’s intimate friendship with Ayers, is the “Multi-culturalism” that is a “of the rails” threat to civil society.

“It is the ties that bind us.”

Mrs Doughtfire

There’s mention, on Riverdaughter, of SD’s being threatened with with-holding of money and support if they don’t endorse Obama. Has anyone else heard this?

That was a very telling meeting. It just shows how easily people are manipulated without ever even realizing. This really made me angry. Use the buzzword “hope” in your speech, talk about the importance of proper names…than assign a proper name to only one. The guy is obviously a master of behaviour modification. I wonder if 16.7 million people will wake up one morning and say “What happened?” Thanks for sharing this.

Unless granny has her shotgun loaded with rock salt and buckshot.

My WV neighbor shot a thief through the seat of his pants with it, and the neighborhood was crime free for a decade.

Home boyz with their 9mms are no match.

I am in total disbelief that we are re-enacting Bush.

Even Bush isn’t this bad. He at least had some experience before entering the White House.

Barry? A high school student could be more experienced in government.

Why not fight back before it’s too late?

McCain isn’t worse than Obama, that’s why.

As bad as he is, compared to Barry, Dems could stomach 4 more years of him (they know what to expect and can at least plan for it), than even a year of Obama (so unknown, no one knows what’ll he do, or even have helping him run the government).

Well, mom and I went out today. While on the bus there was an elderly Black lady who was talking with the bus driver about being a pollster. She was summoned by some party to apply (Obama’s campaign?), and the conversation was more about the money the pollster job would bring in (not a peep about duty or country, it’s “Mo’ money!”

Meanwhile, the bus goes through the projects. Now I don’t go downtown much, so while the bus weaved through one of the projects I remember from yet another bus ride (remember enforced intergration bussing?) one that I saw going to elementary school via the same route and same project. As the bus turned down the old school street, I saw 2 community centers; a Boys and Girls club; a huge playground, and a new elementary school within 2 blocks of the project.

Those families have been living in that project for over 40 years folks. Every decade they get some new MAJOR perk (I wish our neighborhood had even HALF that project has…hasn’t been a playground here for 60 years, until very recently, after a black kid was killed when hit by a car playing in the only area he could — the street). Guess what? They’ll remain in that project for yet another 40 years. Why leave when the roof is repaired; the lawns cut; the faucet and toilet is fixed; and the project has more perks than a $700/mon apartment complex?

The bus continued down the road past abandoned shotgun houses, and run downed cottages that littered the place. Turning down another street I saw homes with increasely more iron bars on the windows (one had black wrought iron so tight that the space between bars was about 1 inch apart and covered all windows all the way to the top). At this point I was getting angry about all what’s wasted on folks who’ll just keep on going downhill on some payback and hangout teet, and the thought those other folks will die in a house fire to protect their inside property. Then, in a blink of an eye, the bus passed this pretty little oasis in a sea of urban decay. Not only was the house painted; lawn mowned; flower beds attended; windows even shaded with blinds; there was a GARRISON SIZED AMERICAN FLAG IN THE FRONT YARD [on a proper flag pole even]!!

That made my day, folks. Out of all that generational misery I saw — even in the middle of it — someone defied the norms of “Entitlement Theology”, and planted a king-sized Stars and Stripes in a beautiful yard with care.

Why can’t Obama wear a simple flag pin to show he cares about a home he want’s to inherit (the White House)?