FROM HILLARY: Why West Virginia Matters

Thanks for the invite. I will be there with you.

What music are we playing? I like “I’m Still Standing.”

It ain’t over yet, not by a long shot.

Barack Obama will never be president. They can ignore it all they want. It will never happen. In four years, perhaps the lesson will have been learned.

Looks like WV is going to tell Jay Rockefeller what “Massitoosits” told Ted Kennedy and John Kerry. People are not going to be told what to do any longer.

the more i think about it, the more i simply can not believe that the media and the DNC are trying to give the nomination to a candidate who has not won ANY key states during the primary. this is just absolute madness. they trust their blue states will stay blue? we need to turn the purple states solid blue this year. i dont want to watch another john kerry happen. thats how i feel about obama. what is wrong with the DNC? pathetic.

Obamabot Jonathan Singer cannot attend our party tonight?

Kick ass Hillary!

God-willing (and please don’t call me BITTER because i cling to my religion – i am a practising roman catholic, by the way), the Democratic Party will not relive the horrors of 2000 and 2004 by nominating a candidate who can win the states that matter in the GE. Otherwise, it will be B.O.W.L. BIG TIME in November. And if that ever happens, let’s all put out a full page ad in the major national dailies and include the names of: Dean, Pelosi, Brazile, Kerry, Richardson, Andrew, McCaskill, Kennedy, et. al.

us country folk will be fully armed and we’ll have big muscly bouncers at the door — he won’t dare!

best thing you ever did for the strength of your site was not requiring “registration,” I’ve been changing names to beat the wordpress spam filters, (mostly so I don’t have to bother you, I can see how busy you are, lately)

on occasion, and after awhile, it’s fun to change names…

True. The DNC is trying a grand experiment – ignore the low information working class. The media loves it. They can capture the important market segments like young men and rich people. It’s a win/win!

This is a foolish experiment. If you cut the heart of of an entity it dies. I don’t need to see it to believe it.

I’m waiting with my bucket and mop to clean up the mess and get along with business.

Thanks for the invite. No JUDAS ESCARIOT allowed !!!

Thanks for the invite. No JUDAS ESCARIOTs allowed !!!

Watch Fox news instead. Feel free also to learn how they will spin Obama’s loss in CNN and MSNBO.

May “karma” befall those who promote injustice and unfairness.

I hope they’re watching the polls carefully in WV today. If they can’t win fighting fair, Obamabots will try anything else. If they do, I hope they get caught red-handed.

And in that “support Hillary” spirit, here is my letter to today’s superdelegate, Wayne Dowdy, chairman of the Mississippi Democratic Party:

Dear Mr. Dowdy,

Thank you for your kind attention.

If you would like to write Mr. Dowdy, his email address is waynedowdy@waynedowdy.com. Wanna pick someone else? Here’s the link to uncommitted superdelegates:

http://tinyurl.com/2xbvgn

Remember: Only 2209 delegates is legit!

Obamabot Jonathan Singer is a fat slob. I guess our muscular bouncers can play basketball with the sloth.

Give ‘em Hell Hillary!

no assauting allowed!

Looking forward to tonight!

Thanks! I will join you, for sure.

I’ve been so discouraged. Even a site that was Hillary-friendly considered discussing the obvious race division to be “race-baiting.”

Sorry, but I’m not willing to be called a “race-baiter” after a lifetime of dedication to supporting and role-modeling the opposite.

It’s nice to relax.

I believe the racial issue plays a part in a very small percentage of voters, and I’m usually surprised this segment of the population bothers to vote.

The rest?

It’s about other issues. It’s related only to race on a very academic level.

Is wearing a lapel pin, for example, an issue about nationalism?

I’m not so sure that’s accurate. It can also be about life experience and knowing that when someone makes a big ole’ deal out of a small action that pleases so many people, that person is often too stubborn and idiosyncratic to really get along with others.

That’s the “knowing” that comes from experience.

Not “stupid” or “clinging,” as progressive bloggers would suggest. Definitely not “low-information.”

However, I think many of the progressive bloggers have shown that they devalue life experience over very superficial book experience.

I recall when I reached the end of my own advanced studies was when I realized: I know nothing.

I think a lot of those folks may not have reached that obvious point in life.

Too bad. They are left with the arrogance of higher education but not the gift of one, which is to truly humble oneself in the face of obvious vast areas in which one is downright stupid.

Hey Uppity,

It is TAXachusettes – NH’s neighbor to the south.

And there are many, many there who are now sporting Ed O’Reilly bumper stickers. He is John Kerry’s opponent in the Democratic Primaries.

I’ll peek into the party tonight – long as it not too late.

Susan, I really really like this idea.

Thank you so much Susan and Larry for all the hard work you do and for making this forum available to us!

If the MSM, DNC,and low information voters (LIVs) get their way, the lunch bucket demos, women and moderate AAs will be facing the following choice in November:

Vote for 4 more years of Bush or

Vote for a man who has close personal relationships with many people who believe american is to blame for all the suffering in the world.

Since I believe america and her princples can withstand four more years of bush, i will be voting the former and hoping for a big democrat majority in both the senate and the house.

I predict there wiil be a lot of mix ballots (repub for president and straight democrat down ballot) this november.

Heh. I’ve got my rosary at the ready. The Ursuline nuns taught me how to be a strong woman. My mother did too. She raised nine children. When the going got tough, she couldn’t leave the room.

Go, Hillary!

I’m planning to take my Dramamine tonight before tuning in to watch MSNBO spin.

Guys, remember that the infamous electronic voting machines (purchase the DVD of the HBO documentary “Hacking Democracy” which shows how they can easily be reprogrammed without being detected) and you will get an idea of how elections are being run these days. High tech cheating. In fact, any democratic controlled county has total access to these machines and they can be manipulated and there’s nothing the average citizen can do to prevent it, much less oversee it. If the DNC have cheated this arrogantly out in the open thus far by playing fast and loose with the DNC rules, in order to promote the illusion that Obama is actually “winning” with a complicit media propping him up every step of the way, then don’t underestimate their ability to manipulate the voting machines (particularly the touchscreens, which have no paper trail). Even those with a paper trail are next to impossible to properly audit independently because so few understand how to audit the paper receipts properly, not to mention the cost of an audit is outrageously expensive and time consuming. If, by some miracle, someone is able to audit a county, the winner has already been declared and the election process is over (you only have a limited period of time to contest the outcome). How convenient.

I have witnessed how easily these machines can be reprogrammed months even years in advance to have a certain outcome. They can manipulate them incrementally to jive with the percentage of democratic voters are in any given precinct.

The reason I’ve given this explanation about the machines is to make it clear why it is vitally important that those of us who do not want to see Obama placed into the WH by the DNC power elite, we must speak out loudly and publicly of our absolute rejection of Obama, if he is given the nomination.

We must make take every step we can to make certain they don’t “spin” a lie that the Clinton supporters opted for party unity and came back to the fold and voted for their boy.

Perhaps we can have a parallel election and cast a protest vote against Obama in order to show the numbers against him could not match any machine count showing that he had won the votes of blue collar workers, older women, latinos and asians.

Obama represents an agenda and he is nothing more than the front man for that agenda, just like GWB was for the neocons.

Don’t forget and certainly don’t underestimate that Zbigniew Brezinski was an early endorser of Obama, but stayed in the background. Why? I’m sure most of you are aware that Brezinski and David Rockefeller co-founded The Trilateral Commission back in 1973. This may explain Jay Rockefeller’s endorsement of Obama more than anything else.

Brezinski is a big believer in a “one world government” or as GHWB, Sr. once said in his state of the union speech “a new world order” is coming.

Obama is a trojan horse, which will release untold forces, which will break the back of democracy as we know it. Of course, I figure by saying all this I will be viewed by some as some kind of conspiracy nut. However, f you take the time and read up on those who support Obama and remain in the background, my theory really isn’t that far-fetched.

Hang in there, Hillary. She is truly this country’s best hope for survival as a soveriegn country of the people.

That is exactly right. It will never happen. And I am proud to be part of the reason why it will never happen.

Is John Kerry up this November? If he is, what are we waiting for? You guys have to show him the door.

All NQ lurkers who have hesitated to post, now is your time! Come on and join us! Tell Hillary you Know the Truth!

I’ve got my Miraculous Medal on. I think Our Lady must surely be a Hillary supporter.

I predict that the Republican nomination/election process will be a lot messier than you might think. Nobody’s paying attention to their troubles now, but believe me, the Republicans have them.

I know quite a few Republicans who would love to vote for Clinton. McCain is not a beloved figure.

i believe that aol is the largest internet provider service in the world. they have some of the most biased bloggers towards obama. however, they run a straw poll starting on mon every week. for months now, hillary has been winning. i just checked it and it shows her 60% 40% ohummer. how could this be ? just another small example of the media and the press rigging this election and the people know it.

Ditto

It would be DELIGHTFUL to see horseface go down. The election thrower that he is.

Contrary to what he thinks, B.O. will not win in Oregon…where Portland has always been the most racist city north of The Mason-Dixon Line, and one of the most popular restaurants has long been The Coon Chicken Inn.

Fred at Hillary_Clinton_In_2008
Accepts the Invitation looking forward to good analysis

You, Larry and the fine cadre of No Quarter authors and regular visitors are a breath of much needed fresh and free air.

Thank You

How is this a suprise to us? WHen you block two huge swing states from revoting, you win, just like all cheaters. Somebody needs ro remind you people that there’s a general election in November, when republicans and so will all those people who wish they could revote in their primaries again after meeting reverend wright. Then there’s us Hillary supporters who desipse barack obama an you with every fiber of our being. I shall enjoy the McGovernization of Barky Obama when the silent democratic majority kicks has ass back to pakistan where he belongs.

Barack Obama will never be president. Maybe in four years you radicals will be told to shut up again like we had to do last time in order to get a president elected.

And if I were you, I would hold my breath between now and August considering Barky’s closet.

My husband came up with this little song this morning. It’s borrowed from the Camelot song, What Do The Simple Folk Do?

What do the bitter folk do
when gas goes up a dollar or two?
They cling to guns and church
and leave Obama in the lurch
Oh, that’s what bitter folk do.

My apologies to Lerner and Loewe.

Race Cards and Speech Codes

by Patrick J. Buchanan

“Give me a break. This whole thing is the biggest fairy tale I’ve ever seen.”

So said Bill Clinton in New Hampshire of Obama’s claim to have been a constant opponent of the war. Clinton cited Obama’s voting record, which was the same as Hillary’s in his early Senate years.

Yet, for this, the ex-president, designated by Toni Morrison as “our first black president,” was charged with playing the race card.

Clinton spent days explaining the “fairy tale” remark.

Came then the morning of the South Carolina primary, where Barack was rolling up a smashing victory. Bill volunteered: “Jesse Jackson won in South Carolina, twice, in ‘84 and ‘88. And he ran a good campaign, and Sen. Obama’s running a good campaign.”

That broke it. Bill Clinton was openly “playing the race card.”

Now, undoubtedly, Clinton was trying to belittle, to diminish the importance of the South Carolina vote for Obama. But why is it racist to say what Clinton was implying: That, in a Southern state where a huge share of the Democratic vote is African-American, a strong black presidential candidate can be expected to do well?

Political history proves this. What is racist about saying it?

Aware of the truism, every political analyst was looking closely at the racial breakdown of the South Carolina vote.

Last week came Hillary’s turn. After her victory in Indiana and loss in North Carolina, which pundits said rang down the curtain on her presidential bid, she advanced an argument candidates have used since primary elections began. “I can win — and my opponent can’t.”

The argument was made against Goldwater, Nixon, Reagan.

In an interview with USA TODAY, Hillary argued that the coalition she has put together would be stronger against John McCain than the coalition Barack has cobbled together.

She began by relating an AP article “that found how Sen. Obama’s support among working, hard-working Americans, white Americans, is weakening again, and how whites in both states who had not completed college were supporting me.”

“There’s a pattern emerging here,” said Hillary. “I have a much broader base to build a winning coalition on.”

This shot Eugene Robinson of The Washington Post into low orbit.

“As a rationale for why Democratic Party super-delegates should pick her over Obama, it’s a slap in the face to the party’s most loyal constituency — African Americans — and a repudiation of principles the party claims to stand for. Here’s what she’s really saying to party leaders: There’s no way that white people are going to vote for the black guy. Come November, you’ll be sorry …

“Clinton implies but doesn’t quite come out and say … that Obama is black — and that white people who are not wealthy are irredeemably racist.”

But Hillary was saying no such thing. Describing her coalition, she was implying that Obama’s coalition — a George McGovern-Jesse Jackson combine embracing 90 percent of African-Americans, plus liberals, students and cause people — has less chance of beating McCain than does she and her more Middle American coalition.

Democrats, not liberal Democrats, are the swing votes who decide presidential races. Here Hillary beats Obama three to two or two to one, North and South.

Has she no right to make this argument? Can Brother Robinson explain exactly how Hillary can describe her Ohio-Pennsylvania coalition without using the dread word “white”?

Some of the reaction to the Clintons, whose once-universal support among African-Americans has crashed, is due to the immense stake black Americans have come to invest in the Obama candidacy. But some of this is something else, something more sinister.

Bill and Hillary Clinton are not playing a race card. Rather, the liberal media and some black journalists with sentimental, emotional or ideological investments in Obama are playing the intimidation card.

They are setting limits around what may and may not be said about Obama. They are seeking to censor robust adversarial speech where Barack is concerned, by branding as racists “playing the race card” any who make Barack run the same paces as anyone else.

The Clintons are today victims of a double standard that has long been employed against conservatives.

Even African-Americans critical of Obama are feeling the lash. In Saturday’s Washington Post article, “Black Community Is Increasingly Protective of Obama,” reporter Darryl Fears writes, “Standing in the path of Obama’s campaign has been dangerous” for prominent blacks.

Bill and Hillary have lost luster and sustained damage to their reputations because, in the Democrats’ universe, such smears stick. The question for Republicans is whether they will let themselves be intimidated, as they too often are, from using legitimate political weapons to defend what they still have.

It is thus a sign of trouble ahead that John McCain declared the Rev. Wright off limits and berated the North Carolina GOP for bringing him up. Let your adversaries circumscribe the content of your campaign, and you usually end up losing your campaign.

Something’s super-fishy (sounds like “superficial” – very apropos) about him. As you can see from my letter above, I don’t think we should be shy about sharing our fears with those powerful superdelegates. I encourage people to write and tell them what *you* think!

Just took the poll at AOL…She is winning in Idaho Too…Give IDAHO a REAL PRIMARY!

It appeals to the ego in no way I’ve ever seen a campaign message appeal.

When the race was younger, I cannot tell you the number of replies to my posts on a “Site that Shall Remain Unnamed” involved bragging about the college-educated stats.

It pained me. I saw the arrogance of people. I saw the lack of empathy. I saw the real reason for the rust belt.

What’s insane to me, anyway, is that years ago, as a former resident of Iowa and Indiana, I knew….knew……KNEW….

That what was hitting the working middle class, ie, factory/blue collar, would hit the white-collar workers in a few years.

I cannot believe how right I was.

And I still cannot believe the denial going on in the white-collar sector in this election.

What good does a college degree do you if there’s nothing left to actually do with it?

Lordy.

The denial is insane.

Ego, ego, ego.

And what is truly crazy is watching that ego take pleasure in putting down a “lower” group…entire states, in this case.

I grew up in the South. The urge to scapegoat someone “lower” is really what racism is about. It doesn’t have to do with color of the skin, for gosh sakes. Nobody cares about that. It has to do with feeling lousy about one’s own life and finding someone lower one can step on to make one feel “higher,” and …..temporarily…..better than.

And here we go again.

*blech*

I hated it then. I hate it now.

My guns, and religion, have gotten me though more, and tougher, times than B.O.’s stupidity have gotten him through. The one time someone broke into my home, and attacked me, I shot the fool. Word got around, and no one has ever been so foolish again. While my cousin was practically giving herself a coronary worrying about what some nut pastor In Washington state said about the world ending on New Years’ Eve 2000, I was calm, cool, and collected… because I knew enough scripture to know that God could not destroy the world then (only 6 months away at the time) because too many prophecies-which would take years to fulfill-had not yet been fulfilled. On New Year’s Eve, my cousin nearly committed suicide-as a way to escape the coming horror-while I was enjoying myself at a fun party.

Screw Obama…and the Horse he rode in on.

I hope every last precinct in each and every county reports in Clinton Blue!

Maybe Obama is sending the Mayor of Gary Indiana to check on the vote count.

Chumbawumba – I get knocked down, but I get up again!

perfect for Hillary!

I want Hillary to be our nominee! Obama is a disaster in the making. If the SDs are dumb enough to choose him over her, I hope the DNC disintegrates under their feet. I also don’t want Hillary to be Obama’s running mate. No way! Let him go down in flames on his own!

WV is the canary in the coal mine. Obama’s utter failure there will be a portent of things to come.

Thank goodness for Larry, Susan, Uppity, and all the rest of the fine people here! We sure appreciate your telling it like it is!

But of course! He just wants to make sure everything is done correctly and every vote is counted…twice if need be!

It’s very very important.

I’m a semi Fox lover too.
Even though Fox love is never True!

Their sweet nothings are hard to resist.
When our own kind has given us the finger.

Indeed!!

I thought you were kidding about the Coon Chicken Inn until I just Googled it! Amazing, I had no idea.

I’m going to make a bunch of calls to Oregon today. And of course, checking in on the Pah-tay!! Woohoo!

John Kerry is going DOWN!

Tahk you Larry and Susan..NoQuarter is my salvation …from the Obamabrats..and it is such an intelligent place to be..It is a respectful place..and i appreciate that..i guess you could say..it is a grown up lace to be free from the obamabrat ignuts!

Oh and just a fyi for those who used to post at DU..as i predicted…seems the obamabrats just go there to harrass..they don’t donate $$$$$$$$..and who of us didn’t know that??????????

I wonder how much DU misses our $$$$$$$$$$

I hope they have a real hard time.

bwaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa….they will never get another dime from me and i rarely post there ..or even click on ..don’t want to give them advertising $$ by clicking on!!

Folks ..people ignore and harrass Hilllary at their own peril..

we are a strong block of Americans..i hope we can remember that and vote with our fingers on the internet as well.

support only those who support the truth..you can not go wrong that way!

THANK YOU, THANK YOU, SUSAN AND LARRY!!

Sounds like, unlike Obama, the residents of Oregon know the actual locations of the Great Lakes.

WV is the canary in the coal mine. Obama’s utter failure there will be a portent of things to come.

Agreed. We’ll see if someone other than K.R. observes this…

What will Tweety say?? Someone will need to be the sacrificial lamb and listen-in on his prattle! I bet he’ll be expounding on how Barky will be re-drawing the map thereby rendering W.V. irrelevant.

What a complete nimrod that man is.

I’m a bit more optimistic.

I simply do believe in people. I think that Obama and the Washington elite preyed off of the situation within the Republicans. They thought that this was the year they couldn’t be beat.

I’ve decided putting for the elitist, yet again, is a bit of a recoup of ego.

Kerry…..shot down.
Gore……shot down

and a host of others.

This is the year they “prove” that the insiders win.

And that explains the insane denial that Ohio, PA, CA, WVA, KY…..don’t matter.

It’s mass delusion, based on rebuttal of past losses.

Even if he wins, even if he ends up being president, he’s going to run into the reality that Hillary already experienced: He has not won, by any measurement, the will of the people.

He will not make any real progress.

He will end up being the empty suit president.

And that’s that.

It’s the will of the people which matters, whether putting forth a war or a health plan.

Helen Reddys..”I am Woman…”

WV is the canary in the coal mine.

Perfect metaphor.

Amen……

My favorite blog sites are strongholds of AA activism. They don’t like Obama in the least.

Now, I don’t tease myself thinking they wouldn’t, in a heartbeat, label me as “white, old-lady, racist.”

But that doesn’t really tell the story. They would be right. I’m way unsophisticated in terms of what’s going on in a deep sense within the AA activist community,

and that also doesn’t mean that I don’t totally get it why Obama sure isn’t their hero.

So it’s a very interesting year.

YOU KNOW I CAN RELATE TOEVERY WORD YOU SAID.
I GREW UP IN WVA AND SMALL TOWN AMERICA IS A LOT LIKE THE SOUTH.
IT IS DISGUSTING BUT IT IS A PART OF OUR CULTURE.
I HAVE ALWAYS BEEN AWARE OF IT, BUT JUST HAVE NOT THOUGHT OF IT FOR YEARS UNTIL I READ YOUR POST AND IT ALL CAME FLOODING OVER ME.
THANKS I ENJOYED YOUR POST.

Well, I can’t bring myself to unblock Fox, and I won’t watch Tweety or the Fuzzy One. Reckon I’ll watch NCIS and tune my laptop to No Quarter.

YOU KNOW ROCKEFELLAR IS NOT A NATIVE OF WVA HE JUST NEEDED A STATE TO USE TO GET TO WASHINGTON AND WVA GAVE HIM HIS SECOND HOME, BUT I THINK THEY ARE RATHER UPSET WITH HIM RIGHT NOW. MY SISTER TELLS ME HE IS GETTING SOME REAL BAD PRESS INSIDE THE STATE. SERVES HIM RIGHT.

Insightful point about racism, Anne.
So this whole race is about narcissism and ego. And marketing the product Obama to appeal to people’s little egos. “The creative class.” Lack of compassion.
Yuck.

How do we send Ed O’Reilly money?

As Untilthelastdogdies puts it, “WV is the canary in the coalmine.”

It ain’t over till the lady in the pantsuit sings!

Yes show him the door!!!
can we show Rockefeller the door in WVA too?!

Larry and Susan, thank you for being honest, tenacious and always truthful. My ‘home’ on the internet was another lefty blog. It’s kind of small and I fell in love with the community there. I blogged there for a few years, happy in the pond on my own lillypad.

Then came this election. First came the undeserved hits on boomers, women, anyone supporting Hillary. Then vicious attacks on Hillarybecame commonplace, based on lies and half-truths. I started wandering the internet more and more. When they started to ignore any and all negative stories on Obama and acted like they didn’t exist, well, I turned my back on them for good. Who in hell wants to live in a bubble that thick? And here I am, grateful as hell for a wonderful place like NoQuarter… no bull, ever. Susan, you are a wonder… you tirelessly bring us post after excellent post. I will be here later, with bells on. We’ll celebrate together.

Oh man, that would be so much fun to watch!

Just checking to see if my comment is added today. I tried yesterday and my comment did not show up. However, I had to write it twice because it mysteriously disappeared as I was writing it the first time. It makes wonder if this webpage has been hacked in some way. I am a Hillary fan so I would expect not to be censored here.

So here goes.

I think there were some server issues yesterday. Same thing happened to me.

Please, not “horseface”. My horses are insulted!

How about “numbnuts” or “pinhead” instead??

I just hope that the expectations are not set too high for Hillary so if she by 20 points then media hacks will spin it somehow into Obama victory. Obama may be able to fix the machines like he did in NC and IN.

But win is a win and it will call for a celebration. Hillary should go all the way to convention like Regan did in 1976 and Kennedy did in 1980 and Hart did in 1984 but much less convincing case that Hillary.

West Virginia is truly about race. As wat North Carolina. Now people will have to actually do a head count. The answer is there. Like it or not. Pull the race card all you want, it’s the Votes Stupid. The ones in the End, also known as November. Truly, I do not feel sorry, because I watched women get treated like dog crap by this campaign. So basically, I feel as sorry for Obama as he feels for me. Not at all. It’s his own fault for deliberately bringing race into this race. And make no mistake, it was calculated at the right time to turn the AA vote against the beloved Clintons. Why else would anybody pluck racism out of remark that Obama’s Iraq stance is a fairy tale and then declare that the remark referred to his presidential bid. After that, all bets were off. Obama is destroyed. Serves him right for destroying Clinton. One difference: She will endure. And if the party gets obliterated, serves them right too. Last time it was marginalized, they had some time to fix their radical sins. Now we are just repeating history.

I left the church a long time ago and only attend for weddings, baptisms and funerals. But I never sneer at what gives other people comfort and joy. (While you at it say a little prayer for her from me too. It can’t hurt and it just might help.)

And add to that his egghead attitude toward people who get their hands dirty in this country, and his days are numbered for certain. He can’t connect. And he won’t connect. He can’t do any of the mending he is “confident” he can do. He can’t mend it with white women. He can’t mend it with blue collars. He can’t mend Italians and the Irish. He can’t mend it with gays and lesbians, he can’t mend it with Jews. He can’t mend it with all those “old people” who know exactly what he is. He can’t mend ANY of this. In short: Now it really IS a fairy tale.

Y’all don’t forget to bring a clean hood to the Bash.

I absolutely cannot, for the sake of my blood pressure, the well-being of my television set watch MSNBC and the two biggest fools on cable aka Tweety and Olbamaman. I cannot believe that I have come to the point of watching FOX in order to get some fair coverage.

Now, to follow up on the comment on the blog about speaking what’s on one’s mind.

I don’t know how much credibility Lyndon LaRouche has in the mainstream political world. I think he has some strong opinions with which I don’t totally agree, but I read his website because I find it invariably interesting.

He had something new on his Executive Intelligence Review website today.

http://www.larouchepub.com/other/2008/3520threat_to_clinton.html

I am going to paste an excerpt that I found very disturbing. I have requested a FactCheck from HillaryClinton.com. I’m not holding my breath on that. But if somebody threatened me in that manner, I would shout their name(s) from the rooftops.

“Unimpeachable sources very close to the Clintons have reported that the morning after the Indiana and North Carolina primaries, calls were made by individuals, recognized as high-ranking members of the U.S. political elite, informing the Clintons that, “while this was not necessarily [their] position,” they wanted it passed along that under no circumstances would Hillary Clinton be permitted to take the Democratic nomination, and that, if by some miscalculation, she did take the nomination, she would never be permitted to take the Presidency. Apparently, the messages concluded that, if, by some unanticipated occurrence, she were to actually go ahead and win the Presidency, it would be the shortest-lived Presidency in the history of the United States. The message was explicit: The combination of Hillary and Bill Clinton in the White House meant a Presidency that would simply wield more independence and more power than they were willing to tolerate. Undoubtedly, Clinton’s continual pledge to represent the lower 80% of the U.S. population, and the unspoken fear that some of her policies seem to lean too far in the direction of the proposals put forward by Lyndon LaRouche, have lowered their toleration level.”

Do you have trouble reading? This thread is not open to you.

HILLARY IS MY HEROINE

If Hillary’s name isn’t on the top of the ticket, I’m not voting Democrat – for the first time in 35 years. I’ll either vote McCain, just to show the DNC et al that they can’t kick a woman under the bus and not suffer the consequences, or I’ll write in Hillary’s name. Depends upon how pissed off I am in November.

BUT I WILL NEVER VOTE FOR OBAMA, EVER, NO MATTER WHAT

Whew, I feel better now. Thanks for letting me vent.

GO HILLARY!

Exactly! I suspect a lot of Republican women would love to have the chance to vote for the first woman president. Actually the Republicans were in favor of of giving women the vote when our very own Democratic Party was still fighting it tooth and nail. And while Democrats love to tout themselves as the “Big Tent” Party, it seems women are only allowed in the tent if the bring a dish to pass and then stick around to clean up after.

Many hard-working Republican women are no happier with the lack of health care for them and their kids, their economic uncertainty and the smug certainty so many men have of their superiority.
None of the men here are like that of course. (Unless a troll is lurking) The men who post here are superior, just equally superior as are the women.
Go Hillary!

Uppity,

How nice that you aren’t above speaking to me.

Oh, so Larry is censoring the site now?

I thought you folks were all about free expression?

Why don’t you try DKos. I know they have always welcomed us.

Really? Cause there is an Oregonian (is that right?) who shows up at TalkLeft all the time and keep insisting that Obama is up by 10-20 points. Didn’t know if it was true of just an Obamacrats inability to count.

Wow. Seems like we’ve got a taste for conspiracy on our hands.

Why don’t you go beat up your wife and ask her to forgive you again.

I like the “I am for it and against it.”
Let us give him time to Windsurf as much as he wants.

Fat Teddy went to convention 790 delegates short.

I never miss NCIS but I usually just surf over and check the vote totals during commercials. That’s about as long as I can stand listening to any of the arrogant talking heads anyway. For me it’s got to be FOX because I cannot stand Cafferty or Brazile on CNN or Tweety or Olbamaman on MSNBC.

I knew Kerry was up- family in MA- nobody in my family is voting for his traitorous ass- And they are not voting for him BECAUSE he supports Obama-
Watch the down ticket races- and I will pop the champagne when Kerry gets retired!

B.O. will not win in Oregon…

Won’t that be a peach!

You show ‘em. Don’t forget that John McCain is roughly 800 times more sexist than Obama could possibly be.

McCain: “Why is Chelsea Clinton so ugly? Because her father is Janet Reno.” (1998)
http://www.salon.com/news/1998/06/25newsb.html

Townhall Participant: “How do we beat the bitch?” (referring to Hillary Clinton)
McCain: “That’s an excellent question.” (2008)
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/huff-wires/20071114/mccain-clinton-comment/

This on top of the fact that he’s demonstrably anti-feminist in his policies, he’s anti gay-rights, and he’s for continuing the War in Iraq indefinitely – how on earth can you folks think of voting for this guy? Has the primary completely knocked your mental circuitry lose?

And, next up, Teddy! (When is he up for re-election? It’s about time MA slammed the door in his face.)

Another rosary at the ready here! Lit my customary candle for Hillary at the Blessed Mother’s shrine before Mass on Sunday. (St. Anne will look out for Hillary too.)

I know they won’t be going blue for Obama. I think that’s historical for the Bluest State.

He’s the Central Bank anyhow. He hides in a democratic sheepskin.

Why YOU hick!

She could win by 99% and the media would have some spin about the 1% that didn’t vote for her. We all need to accept the fact that no matter what she does they will never give her an honest break. Once you accept they are a bunch of repulsive idiots it makes it much easier to turn off the television or watch NCIS or do anything except help their ratings by watching them trash the candidate we support.

Ok ok i apolgize to the horses! But he does have the face for the feedbag!

Just goes to show you how odious THEY are us. Even Fox looks better to us than they do.

They should kick his a** out the door, too. (Is he up for re-election this November?)

Any hood here would be cleaner than the ‘hood Obama left in his Chicago district as he swapped spit with the slumlord Rezko who left poor AAs during brutal Chicago winters without heat, hot water in his rat infested apt buldings that he soon abandoned when the money he was funded with the help of Obama ran out.

The only hoods at this bash will be the thread crashing Obama thugs spewing their chicken little racist hysteria at every turn.

Tell me, do you expect this strategy to carry you the entire election? Please tell me you have better plans than this. Because people are already SO over the race card it isn’t even funny. And you ‘typical white’ Obama supporters really won’t want to be around when AAs wake up and realize just how much you have exploited and demeaned our experience just to get this biracial candiate elected. Oh no, you really don’t want to be around for that.

Your theory is far from far fetched. I know a fair number of his affiliates’ names and he must never be president.

Not only the lack of work, but the lack of ability to create work, or, at the very least, manage the system.

Michael Brown was college educated, too and he was one pf the most incompetent people ever seen.

I mean, the same is true about most of Washington, and they’re ivy league..

So big deal, you went to trade school for four years, but you’re still not competent to do your job, Harvard.

You know?

Troll alert. You are not welcome on this thread and have been told so. Evidently you momma didn’t bother to teach you any manners or you wouldn’t go where you are not wanted.

One thing republicans do, even if they have to hold their noses: they line up. And they will especially line up after they learn more about Barky Obama. I will be lining up with them.

United States’ place in the minds of people around the world, and here at home.

So you finnally acknowldge it is a BO mind game,

The legend in BO’s mind is for sale Cee. I ain’t buying.

The who would clean the toilets, Marge?

See, they’re good for something…

/snark

Rocky Rooters…

Your husband’s a keeper!

Then who would clean the toilets, sorry,

AOL is a Republican tool. They might let the crackpots play around on boards and with votes–but they control the news that they give them–right up to rearranging AP and Reuters Headlines and Titles. Never trust AOL with the news. Do a google for the original piece at another news or the original news source.

I get it Iodine just wondering about your use of caps lock….

Jonathan Singer could not even fit through the door. A member of the creative class would have the deflate fat slob.

Are there 57 of them?

Susan:

YOU ARE FREE HERE to express exactly what you think!

What is disrespectful about pointing out what a complete jerk John McCain is? Are you offended by that?

Looking froward to tonihgt’s party- I will check in after I get home from work.
And thanks for being here- nice to hear the unvarnished truth!
(If I have to, I will listen, not watch, the MSM and report in. the TV is in another room, so I can listen and not watch.)

Doesn’t matter. he doesn’t need those people. he’s president now. We are going to skip all those silly election steps and Affirmative Action him right into the white house.

Ah the race card on Fox. What a surprise. I am hoping they play it every single day till November. Record Sick Of Hearing It turnout.

Looking forward to tonight!

JKFritz,

I actually wasn’t offended by what you said about McCain (unless I was being called the troll??). I agree with you, there’s a lot wrong with him, his sexist attitude being one.

My logic may be totally whacked (I’ve been told so before) but I think if we can fill Congress with Dems, they’ll be able to keep a McCain presidency under control for 4 years, giving Hillary an opportunity in 2012 to take the White House back. However, with an Obama presidency, and the way the current Dem Congress seems to be rolling over playing dead for him, I’m afraid that in 4 years the country will be over the Dems in the White House and we’ll be stuck with a Repub takeover.

It’ll all depend on what happens between now and November. I still haven’t given up hope that Hillary will be our nominee! Just preparing for the worst.

It does not matter which channel one views. As Fox was MSNBC is , or any of the MSM sy-ops channels. All a grain of salt.

kenoshaMarge I really do get the blood pressure thing…When you here flat out LIES, (Löffel füttern die Massen,) it is extremely mind numbing.
The idea of disseminating information in am anner that allows your alpha waves to work well is “nicht erlaubt”.

A mix between Lord of Flies, Big Brother and a pinch of ?. UGH!

I know nothing.

Sgt. Hans Schultz, from Hogans hero’s was a Zen master…

You are so right.

Here is a poll (survey usa) that has Barry up 10 pts in Oregon.

they had him up 5 pts in NC where he ended up winning by 14 pts so I don’t know how accurate they really are

Me too.

I watched C-SPAN for NC and IN returns. No pretty maps, no panel discussions with “unbiased” reporters, just two people discussing returns, occasionally breaking away to see what local news in the state is reporting. I had CNN on the other tuner, and was watching the picture-in-picture box out of the corner of, and would switch over if they had someone talking who didn’t make me want to vomit.

C-SPAN: a lot less flashy, and a lot more tolerable.

Looking forward to tonight. Go Hill

I’ve felt for years that CNN’s multitasking of the viewers’ minds (and many other elements visual and sound) is intended to make viewers insane.

Perhaps it’s just a product of an increasingly insane culture, though.

I dought they will leave the lights on at Motel 1600 either.

http://www.edoreilly.com/

Bill and Hillary Clinton are not playing a race card. Rather, the liberal media and some black journalists with sentimental, emotional or ideological investments in Obama are playing the intimidation card.

They are setting limits around what may and may not be said about Obama. They are seeking to censor robust adversarial speech where Barack is concerned, by branding as racists “playing the race card” any who make Barack run the same paces as anyone else.

Anyone think this situation improves when it’s President Obama? Mr. Uniter II has played the race, gender, age and class cards, and someone who has been as destructive to the party and the country as he already has will never get my vote.

I’ve posted that same report elsewhere. I too find LaRouche and colleagues work worthwhile. I usually go to larouchePAC.com first these days (good videos there too).

Dear friend of mine by the name Mercedes played and sang the lead in Cabaret back when I was a theatre techie. Wouldn’t mention it, except for the neon-bright irony of Cabaret and what’s happening in Weimar America today. You aren’t her. Her writing style is much more Hunter-Thompsonesque.

You need a bulletproof vest to mention the name LaRouche at the DailyCheeto.

I think it is of value for that report to get more daylight, so good for you.

BTW-Jay Rockefeller is the dem pushing for the new FISA, you know, the bill providing for retroactive TELCO IMMUNITY that BushCo wants passed.

Come on Hillary! I have good feelings about WV.

The media has betrayed America with their mistreatment of Hillary and their sick obsession with Obama. I think it is an all out frontal assault by corporate America. I do not believe their funds are “grass roots” at all. Some sure, but the bulk of it is coming from Big Pharma and other healthcare corps with a dog in the Universal fight and Big oil and Nuclear interests and Wall Street. Nothing will change.
They KNOW HILLARY will REALLY change things, and that is why they are shoving him on us.
It looks like half of America fell for it, and the rest of us are supposed to get in line lock step. It’s scary. With the expanded powers that exist right thanks to Bush, the situation is dire.
Thanks for this site, I have to vent it’s so frustrating to watch what they are doing to her. Nothing has changed, like Ginger Rodgers said ” I did everything Fred did backwards and in high heels”
watching the sexist crap playout in this election, particularly with the consequences that will undoubtedly result, it’s just depressing, she’s twice as strong as he is.
I hope she kicks ASS tonight,that wimp was AFRAID TO DEBATE HER and didn’t even BOTHER to campaign there, he’s on to his GE campaign! The arrogance is astounding.

Me, too. Control the senate and the house-McCain will have to play ball. Good enough for me.

BOs mouthpiece, Axelrod, says that Puerto Rico doesn’t count, not even the popular vote, because they are not a state

Never Again; Nickelback

All information should be given a fair review.

Valerie Wilson, in her book noted that Fox was the only channel on. The point I believe is knowing how to find information in the propaganda.

Like a ticker item you only see once….

ALL THE WAY HILLARY…!!

HILLARY WINS…!!

HILLARY FOR PREZ..!!

Its “MADAM PRESIDENT”..GET USED TO IT!!

HILLARY CLINTON HAS CLASS…!!

OBAMA HAS ONLY GAS..”"

HILLARY PUTS HIM IN HIS PLACE AND HILLARY WINS THE
RACE…..

My Pastor says………
God Bless the United States of America..

Hey where is Patsy??? haven’t seen her on for a day or two??

I can’t wait for tonight’s celebration. Go Hillary! Stomp him out!

Here’s what Hillary said today:

“Democrats don’t get elected president unless West Virginia votes for you. It was West Virginia that made it possible for John Kennedy to become president. John Kennedy didn’t have the number of delegates he needed when he went to the convention in 1960; he had something equally as important – he had West Virginia behind him.”

How about Melissa Etheridge, “I’m the Only One”

AnninCa – I have always enjoyed your thoughtful posts when I found them.
K.Wynne – Zbig,I understand, is also a Russian hater and we will be back to the Cold War if either of his guys is elected. Plus, having seen his arrogant and unbelievably misogynistic comments about Hillary on his daughter’s morning show,(she stood there and giggled and didn’t have the guts to say a word in protest!)he should be retired to pundit purgatory!
After counting the days for eight years and looking forward to a blessed change, I am now back in a state of depression. I have the same sinking feeling I had when watching Colin Powell’s speech at the UN. All that fake evidence and it seemed noone was challenging it. Now it seems we are facing another fake and people are buying into the same kind of hysteria.
I was leaning towards John Edwards and will never forget Pat Buchanan’s prescient warning that “the MSM will never let him become the nominee”. I watched as he was ignored, marginalized and trivialized. Then I watched as they started on HRC. I have never seen such disgusting treatment of any candidate before. I got so mad I thought maybe I was going off my rocker! Luckily, I just read an article by Eric Boehlert in Media Matters, in which he sets out how unique the treatment she has received actually is. I have to hope that, in the years to come, people will realize how appallingly they have behaved and feel a real sense of shame.

I’ll read the Media Matters article. Thanks for the tip.

And, I agree, the treatment has been appalling enough to create group guilt. Really, I mean that.

There will be a price to pay.

Hillary has done absolutely nothing to deserve this, and everyone knows it.

It’s sheer scapegoating and coattail-hanging and slimy insider politics.

But what will harm us all?

It’s that we know it.

And the system is set up to make us all culpable.

I would hope to hell it was Mercedes and McGowan being called unwelcome trolls.

Don’t let this place become some portal for the LaRouche cult.

I did manage to watch a bit of MSNBC, yelling back at the tv the entire time. Ubermann was unhinged…sneeringly comparing Hillary’s speech to the “sermon on the mount” and saying she was not allowed to make up her own facts.

Maddening. Hey, morons. Math is obviously not your subject. I’m talking about the GE math in November. The finals.

I am not an american,I live in nigeria,lagos so I am honestly neutral. I am an intercessor, prayer worrior and do understand why people are either pro obama/clinton or anti obama/clinton; ignorance. I wish they knew the mnd of God. I confirm that God has His hand on obama, and when God chooses aybody/aanything, He gathers all forces to gravitate towards that person/thing, not minding all the odds against him/it. It pays to be close to God, He speaks when you ask Him questions; but first you must be close to Him. Mind you, God always works well with fresh vessels that He can mould for His unique purpose. God is about to bring positive changes in America and the world and for that He chooses His vessel, whether we like the vessel or not, God makes it happen miraculously. Mark my words and watch! Nobody can fight God and win. It is not man but God at work! Let noman think he is helping obama, and let not obama think he is worthy for it is God at work to fulfil His divine purposes!!! America, come to terms with this revealed truth.

Obama has been a child of destiny for God has been preparing him for such a time like this. He still does not know but it will very soon become clear to him that he is God’s choice. If te world can search out the mind of God on any issue, we would not waste time fighting ourselves. God will use “inexperience” to confound “experience. God doesnot need our experience because He is experience Himself. He is about to do positive new things, He does not need ‘carryover’ same experience! I am speaking deeper things and only the spiritually discerning heart will understand me now. America pray for Obama and catch the vision of what God is about to do through an “underdog” You know people do not look towards underdogs but God takes them just like He did with David. Food for thought. Shalom. Hilary, I love you, everything God allows is for a purpose. We may not understand now but it will become clearer as we go on. Embrace Obama and move on. When God speaks, He pursues His word to bring it to pass. Note, because God is God, all powerful, all knowing and al understanding, whose other name is Wisdom, if your supporters refuse to join Him in achieving His purpose, He will raise others to do His will. Nobody, no act can stop God and His word. His word will cut through every storm,obstacles etc. Once, God told me that Obama wil encounter so many obstacles bt He God will soar him over all of them. I see it happen daily since I believed God. That explains why your win draws people closer to him instead of the other way round. That’s God in action. God also put obama’s name even in the mouth of babies. When CNN carried that story, I knew God was at work. That confirmed what He told me. I havemore to reveal not to convince yo but show you the power of God over His word or revealed truth. Lets draw nearer to God, keep an open mind always and desire t hear from God your creator. He speaks!