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Down With Sotomayor, Most Evil Spic Ever

(Bumped up from yesterday afternoon.)

Listening to the venom of conservatives directed at Judge Sonya Sotomayor today is disturbing and disgusting on several levels. Conservatives still smart over the liberal assault of Judge Robert Bork. So their response? Try to do the same to Sotomayor. I just listened to Sean Hannity “report” that she’s a “bully and not very smart.” Hey, what do you expect of some Puerto Rican broad?

The nonsense being pushed, i.e., that she is a judicial activist who wants to make law from the bench, is laughable but that is the key talking point for folks who want to savage her. Painting her as an Spanish Aunt Jemima who is not too bright is beyond the pale. Let’s see the proof. I did not like what was done to Bork by the left and I do not like what so-called conservatives are trying to do to assassinate the character of this judge.

Those who know her and have worked with her like her.

Daily Beast has a great piece by Stephen Carter, a Yale Law Professor. Carter writes:

I have known her since we were law students together at Yale, back in the ‘70s. We worked at the same law firm over the summer, and I edited her note for the Yale Law Journal, a thoughtful piece of scholarship in which she did a fantastic job of navigating between two extremes to find a plausible and pragmatic and by-no-means-obvious answer on a difficult and even abstruse question of constitutional law: the “equal footing” doctrine for the admission of new states to the Union.

Around the United States Court of Appeals for the Second Circuit, Judge Sotomayor has developed a reputation as a thoughtful moderate, with liberal leanings, to be sure, but hardly a firebrand on a mission. She also writes excellent opinions. As a matter of fact, I teach a couple of her decisions in my intellectual-property courses, because they are scholarly, clear, and fair-minded.

I suppose the left will not be entirely happy with the president’s choice, and the right, not entirely unhappy. Sotomayor is a former prosecutor, and her criminal-law decisions as an appellate judge seem to me to have a bit of a pro-prosecution bent. For example, her position in United States v. Santa, allowing the admission of evidence seized by the police in the course of a mistaken arrest, eventually was adopted by the Supreme Court.

On the other hand, her participation in Ricci v. DeStefano, the controversial case involving the New Haven Fire Department, is already being waved as if it were a red flag. It isn’t. Ricci (which in any event will be decided by the Supreme Court any day now) involved the decision of the City of New Haven, Connecticut, to throw out a promotion test after not a single black applicant passed it. Black applicants were more than one-third of the pool, and the city was terrified of being sued for racial discrimination. It was, but by the test takers who passed. Maybe New Haven overreacted; maybe not. Few issues have proved as difficult for the nation to resolve as overcoming the lingering legacies of slavery and racial discrimination. How precisely we do that, when we see the results manifest, remains perhaps the greatest moral challenge to America and Americans. People of good will can hold more than one position. To pretend, as some already are, that Judge Sotomayor’s position is outside the mainstream is absurd.

But what does Carter know? He’s just some liberal, nappy headed nigger. Right? Let’s ignore his actual accomplishments. I mean, rather than deal with the substance of his comments let’s just dismiss him as a fool because of what we think he believes politically and what he looks like.

And Sotomayor? Closet lesbian. Manhater. Does not get along well with others. Not too bright. Does not ask penetrating questions. Most liberal judge since Karl Marx. Did I mention judicial activist? Yep, based on her making one off-hand joke at a conference she is now the equivalent of the British Parliament and has passed a bevy of laws by her rulings. Which ones? Can’t find them right now but I’m sure they are there.

Let’s give the lady a chance to speak and to answer for herself. Let’s judge her by the content of her heart and her character. The practice of folks on both the left and the right to dismiss people like Bork or Sotomayor with strident smears is an unfortunate development in our politics. I want to hear what she has to say and how she answers questions. If she conducts herself like former Bush Attorney General Alberto Gonzales, then I will oppose her. If she proves to be a smart, intellectually honest judge then put her on the court.

I am just sick of the hypocrisy on both the left and the right. Let’s hope that comity prevails in this debate.

UPDATED–And Limbaugh has now weighed in calling Sotomayor a racist. Okay. Here’s an intelligence test. Read the following quote from Judge Sotomayor and show me where she is being “racist.”

Whether born from experience or inherent physiological or cultural differences, a possibility I abhor less or discount less than my colleague Judge Cedarbaum, our gender and national origins may and will make a difference in our judging. Justice O’Connor has often been cited as saying that a wise old man and wise old woman will reach the same conclusion in deciding cases. I am not so sure Justice O’Connor is the author of that line since Professor Resnik attributes that line to Supreme Court Justice Coyle. I am also not so sure that I agree with the statement. First, as Professor Martha Minnow has noted, there can never be a universal definition of wise. Second, I would hope that a wise Latina woman with the richness of her experiences would more often than not reach a better conclusion than a white male who hasn’t lived that life.

Let us not forget that wise men like Oliver Wendell Holmes and Justice Cardozo voted on cases which upheld both sex and race discrimination in our society. Until 1972, no Supreme Court case ever upheld the claim of a woman in a gender discrimination case. I, like Professor Carter, believe that we should not be so myopic as to believe that others of different experiences or backgrounds are incapable of understanding the values and needs of people from a different group. Many are so capable. As Judge Cedarbaum pointed out to me, nine white men on the Supreme Court in the past have done so on many occasions and on many issues including Brown.

However, to understand takes time and effort, something that not all people are willing to give. For others, their experiences limit their ability to understand the experiences of others. Other simply do not care. Hence, one must accept the proposition that a difference there will be by the presence of women and people of color on the bench. Personal experiences affect the facts that judges choose to see. My hope is that I will take the good from my experiences and extrapolate them further into areas with which I am unfamiliar. I simply do not know exactly what that difference will be in my judging. But I accept there will be some based on my gender and my Latina heritage.

If being thoughtful and honest constitutes being a racist the she is guilty. But damn it, she makes sense to me. I guess I’m a racist too. Just another self-hating white man.

  • http://noquarterusa.net/ SusanUnPC

    I heard Rush Limbaugh say that she says that white men can’t understand the situation of Hispanic women as well as the women themselves. Rush called this reverse racism.

    AS IF!!!!!!!!

    Rush Limbaugh loves him his sexism, as DCMediaGirl pointed out here last week.

    And so too do a lot of other white men. In my experience, sometimes the worst offenders are those who most stridently deny their sexism.

    • http://www.latinarepublican.com DeeDee

      Rush is a fucking idiot. He’s pointing fingers and there are three pointing right back at him. He’s an embarrassment to the Republican Party.

      • http://www.sonicninjakitty.wordpress.com Sonic Ninja Kitty

        At least with Limbaugh people have the choice to turn him off. He was not elected, makes no policy, and spends no taxpayer money. I’m not defending everything he says, but you have to admit he comes by his audience without coercion or corruption, which is a lot more than I can say for most of our so-called leaders.

        • Cindy

          Sonic—yours is a well-articulated view of what Rush means to us when it comes to the “big picture”. He’s an entertainer. That’s all.
          No one could hurt me and break my spirit like the Democratic Party did on May 31, 2008.

      • rickrickrick

        Dee Dee: You forgot to include Rich. He is a Rich F****** Idiot. Now who’s the idiot?

    • Tn Indie

      Actually, what she said was much broader in scope:

      “I would hope that a wise Latina woman with the richness of her experiences would more often than not reach a better conclusion than a white male who hasn’t lived that life.”

      Now, imagine if a white male SCOTUS nominee said the same thing, with the roles reversed.

      Apparently, based on that statement, she thinks that her race and sex will lead her to a better conclusion than anyone else on the court, since she’d be the only hispanic female justice. I read that she’s had an unusually high number of opinions over turned. Perhaps it’s because she tends to use criteria other than the law when making judicial decisions? I don’t know.

      As with any other SCOTUS nominee, it’s appropriate to look not only at her judicial record, but at her words outside the courtroom to determine if she has the right qualifications.

      What’s not appropriate is to jump on her bandwagon just because of sex or heritage.

      • mountainaires

        Qualifier: “I would hope…”

        “I would hope that a wise Latina woman with the richness of her experiences would more often than not reach a better conclusion than a white male who hasn’t lived that life.”

        I did not know this fact: It’s stunning:

        Until 1972, no Supreme Court case ever upheld the claim of a woman in a gender discrimination case.

        • Ferd Berfle

          That’s absolutely appalling.

          • TeakwoodKite

            I must profess, I didn’t know this either.

            All I can say of myself is that, my ignorance that leads to assumtions of equality is no basis or excuse to judge others. It strikes me dead center, to think how easy it is to overlook the fact 1972 was not very long ago.

            Thanks Mr. Johnson, for a very insightful post that points out the darkside of multi-culturalism gone awry.

            Or put another way junk politics becoming mainstream.

            Also, are you the classes you teach on intellectual property rights online?

            • beebop

              Insightful? You’re kidding me, right?

              He used inflamatory words that he put into the mouths of those who would not like to see her seated and that is insightful? Right.

              She has some ‘splaining to do. Like with the fire fighter case and I hope to hear a no spin, straight up answer from her. I don’t want Rahm to coach her in 0bamize so that she slimes us with an answer. Come the end of the day, we have had some male justices who were miserable, so why not a female? What galls me is the suggestion from the ubers that we can’t question her because she is hispanic. Sounds a hell of a lot like when we couldn’t question 0bama cuz, you know, he had a funny name and didn’t look like anyone on the $5 bill (now worth a hell of a lot less than when he took office). We don’t need anyone in any high office — elected or not — who got there without the proper creds and qualifications. We have one learn as you go that we can kick the hell out in three years. We can’t move her out. Let’s make sure she isn’t Clarence in a skirt.

              • Ferd Berfle

                I’m reading her opinion on that case, which is a bit disturbing. That being said, one ruling does not a career make.

        • http://www.lesstalkmoreactivism.blogspot.com whoframedrudy

          Yes, mountainaires. That line about the wise Latina is carelessly worded.

          In context–she’s talking about the court’s composition–it looks to me she means a wise Latina woman as an addition to a non-diverse court. With 8 white male members and a vacancy, in choosing between qualified Latina and another qualified white male, seating the Latina will make a difference. I’d agree — a diverse court is a better court. I wouldn’t want 9 Latinas on the Supreme Court either.

          1972. Sound familiar? Nixon? She’s talking about the Burger Court — you know, all those wild-eyed ‘liberal activist judges’ appointed by Nixon who voted for Roe v. Wade.

      • Jules

        It’s also not appropriate for people to start screaming racism at every possible opportunity. Apparently no one can have any possible reason for disagreement other than ugly racism. Well hell, if people are called racists for criticizing Michelle Obama’s sleevelessness, then I guess anything goes now. Because all minorities are absolutely PERFECT. In no way can they be considered less than perfect based on their actual actions as human beings. Or their performance at work. Or their choices in clothing. If you’re white, and anyone has some scathing criticism…let er rip. But absolutely don’t disagree with a non-white, non-Christian person. You will be A BIG BAD RACIST.

        I have not heard one Republican using ANY of the inappropriate terms that Larry has used himself in projecting Republicans’ supposed “real feelings”. Nice bit of stereotyping for someone “against racism”.

        Tell me, what happens if I agree with Michael Steele, but not with Obama? Am I still a racist?

        • listing starboard

          I have not heard any Republicans use racial slurs either. Most are primarily focused on the economy.

        • wbboei

          I agree with the commentor. There will be a vetting process. There should be. There will be legitimate issues. Reasonable minds can differ. To ascribe racist motives to those differnces undermines political cohesion, and that is dangerous in these uncertain times. There will be political theater on both sides, but responsible voices should avoid making these kinds of allegations. It is too much like yelling fire in a crowded theater especially now. The article itself sounds less like Larry and more like Garafulo.

      • Diana

        This seemed like an answer to a question that was taken out of context. I wanted to know what the question was she was answering. It was part of a speech. This was also part of that same speech.

        I see no reason why she shouldn’t be confirmed.

        “Whether born from experience or inherent physiological or cultural differences,” she said, for jurists who are women and nonwhite, “our gender and national origins may and will make a difference in our judging.”

        Her remarks came in the context of reflecting her own life experiences as a Hispanic female judge and on how the increasing diversity on the federal bench “will have an effect on the development of the law and on judging.”

        In making her argument, Judge Sotomayor sounded many cautionary notes. She said there was no uniform perspective that all women or members of a minority group have, and emphasized that she was not talking about any individual case.

        She also noted that the Supreme Court was uniformly white and male when it delivered historic rulings against racial and sexual discrimination. And she said she tried to question her own “opinions, sympathies and prejudices,” and aspired to impartiality.

        Still, Judge Sotomayor questioned whether achieving impartiality “is possible in all, or even, in most, cases.” She added, “And I wonder whether by ignoring our differences as women or men of color we do a disservice both to the law and society.”

        She also approvingly quoted several law professors who said that “to judge is an exercise of power” and that “there is no objective stance but only a series of perspectives.”

        “Personal experiences affect the facts that judges choose to see,” she said.

        Link:
        http://www.nytimes.com/2009/05/15/us/15judge.html

    • http://! stodgie

      that reverse sexism goes for both sexes susan in my view!

      • http://deleted Betsy Buzz Ross Latte

        Agreed, stodgie. I hear women all the time say disparaging things against men and then feel that they are somehow justified because of being victims of this or that.

        Sotomayor’s comment borders and passes into that very mentality. Certainly a male candidate with a quote like that attributed to him would not even put on the table as a viable option.

        Perhaps those saying she’s just the decoy and Obama will have a second chance to nominate a second candidate may be correct.

        • Dawnelle

          See the problem with some of us is we TRULY LOVE REAL MEN

          There are just so FEW of them anymore!

          That’s not being reversed sexist that’s just being REALISTIC and FACTUAL!

          ;-)

          • http://deleted Betsy Buzz Ross Latte

            Absolutely! We ladies – (ohh, PC -ly incorrect word there) who love them have been getting alot of guff lately from other women!!

            LOL! ;-0

          • Seattle Moss

            Hey Lady Dawnelle,

            Yeah we may be a dying breed, but I have hope that us real Men won’t end up like the last of the Mohicans.

            • lorac

              Not snark – but what is a “real man”?

              • Seattle Moss

                Lorac,
                We have been down this road before. No disrespect or whatever.

                The definition of a real man is one that is not scared of women in power nor feels insecure about such things as flowers,cats and other beautiful things normally associated with women.
                A real man promotes women and defends a woman against sexist attacks by those that are not real men.
                Real men can be straight or gay it all depends on how they view themselves and how they treat women.

                • Baba Rum Raisin

                  If one must ask, “What is a real man?” then the chances are that one is not of that ilk.

                  Yoko drives, signs checks, picks up the tab and gets On Top whenever the hell she wants…yet I still hear that little “clank” when I stand up or walk.

                  REAL MEN rear bright, assertive, self-confident Daughters.

            • FranSC

              Frankly, I’m concerned white women are going the way of white men. I think it is very important to have representation of the population, but it is wrong to continually bypass the best candidate for anything because he/she is male or female – white or a member of one of the minority or ethnic groups.

              When it became clear that B0 would probably choose a woman, I figured he would do a two for one scenario by nominating either an AA, Hispanic or Lantina woman thinking he would be making women happy and then the ethnic group she belonged to happy. I was already struggling with whether or not ethnicity would trump concern for women in her mind.

              I can tell you from the elections of 2008, I did not like what I saw when AA, Hispanic, and Latino women abandoned Hillary’s candidacy like running from a sinking ship to support B0. It had nothing to do with his support of women, but everything to do with identifying with his minority status. It was clear as crystal which was more important to them.

              I was impressed by Sotomayor’s emotionally moving tribute to her mother today. I will surely give her the benefit of the doubt. But, I can tell you, as a woman, I am not turning cart wheels over her nomination; I suspect Hispanic/Latina people in general are turning cart wheels. I have heard nothing yet that gives me confidence she will pay close attention to discrimination for ALL women and not just ethnic women.

              I noticed in the statement that has been played over and over when she said, “I would hope that a wise Latina woman with the richness of her experience would more often than not reach a better conclusion than a white male who hasn’t lived that life.” I would have felt better if she had said, “…a wise woman…”.

              She also seems to be describing her ‘poor girl makes good’ background as superior experience for coming to better conclusions regardless of a white male’s background. A person does not have to grow up poor to be sensitive to poverty and be moved when someone comes out of that and distinguishes him/herself as Sotomayor has done. I wish her the best, but I will be watching…closely!

          • http://! stodgie

            dawnelle, that is the best comment of the evening. smile!

        • Ferd Berfle

          Perhaps those saying she’s just the decoy and Obama will have a second chance to nominate a second candidate may be correct.

          If that’s the case, there might be some benefit into giving her an in-depth hearing. Judging from how That One operates, the backup could be a real Bush-leaguer, so to speak. Sotomayor does have the experience (unlike That One), althogh I haven’t delved into her opinions too far, yet.

          • Doc99

            Yes, Ferd, the devil’s in the details.

        • sandi78

          If he does get another opportunity, then I hope it’s another woman. If Sotomayor is confirmed, there will be two women out of nine justices. Women are the majority gender in this country, and we are no longer willing to be the minority on little things like the Supreme Court. Or in the White House, in Congress, etc.

    • Ani

      And some of the biggest liberal males are the biggest sexists – I wouldn’t have believed it if I didn’t see it for myself.

      • http://deleted Betsy Buzz Ross Latte

        O-b-a-m-a brushing off his shoulder and scratching his cheek with the middle finger ring a bell?

        • Docelder

          If you consider his own choice of a wife, then that may say something of what he thinks of women in general. Often times it does.

          • http://deleted Betsy Buzz Ross Latte

            My dad always said that people either looked like their spouse, their dog or their car.

            In Obama’s case, I think he’s jealous of her guns and possibly her clothes.

            LOL!!!

            • oowawa

              My dad always said that people either looked like their spouse, their dog or their car.

              Gawd–he was right. Just this morning while shaving, I noticed how much I was starting to look like that ’58 Edsel in the driveway . . . . Not many appreciate a true classic nowadays!

              • Docelder

                Beyond just looks though, if somebody thinks women are “mean” then the might marry a woman that lives up to that expectation. Totally hypothetical of course. ;)

              • JustMe~~

                LOL oowawa

                and I do not bother talking anymore I just bark around the place…

        • Animal Control

          Bing!

      • FranSC

        And don’t forget those liberal dismissive women of other women if not sexist, aka, Claire McCaskill, Barbara Boxer, and, of course, good o’le boy Nancy Pelosi. You don’t have to be a man to block the progress of women.

    • tminu

      I don’t see “hispanic” as a race.

      It’s really nonsense that way, I’m Irish and Italian and darker complected than her. What am I, what are the rest of us, a nothin’?
      I have a culture, a look, languages, I’m really really sick and tired of the emphasis on one particular popular niche or another.

      Hispanic is just meaningless jargon.

  • http://www.homestudioessentials.com/ A-Nony-Mouse

    Great post Larry. Luckily I think the GOP will really hurt themselves a lot more than Sotomayor with their disgusting attacks.

    • tek

      A-Nony: I think you’re right. After GW’s experiment with Alberto Gonzales, you’d think they would just shut up and make the best of it. Oh, I forgot. That’s not what Republicans (Cheney comes to mind) do.

    • tminu

      Oh c’mon we heard the Berkeley crowd knowing snicker in agreement with her policy-from-the-bench faux-pas freudian slip with a “logical” cover. We know what’s coming. That’s the reason Obama picked her.

  • Docelder

    Yes, if she meets statutory requirements and is generally acceptable to those in the know… then approve her quickly. Myself, with the videos out there… I think Obama really wants someone else. Were I a republican in charge, I would take her and move on. It could be a whole lot worse, because Obama has the political capital right now to force nearly anybody he wants. But, all I am is a regular guy, once a Reagan republican, now just a RINO I guess.

  • Foxx

    If Supreme court nominations had been unbiased we would have 5 women and 4 men on the court now. So we have 3 more to go.

    Who do you think Obama’s next appointment will be?

    • http://noquarter foxyladi14

      it will be a man..bet on it..

      • TeakwoodKite

        I would not bet anything on BO.

    • skinny malinky

      If Supreme Court nominations were really unbiased, the best 9 jurists would be on the bench, regardless of gender.

      The thing is, there’s not a way to determine who the 9 best jurists are in the country. It depends on if you agree with their ideology, and even then, it’s not like there’s some standardized test to determine who the best judge is. But gender shouldn’t matter, at least in theory.

  • ame

    Wow, that’s bad. Where does it say; “most evil spic ever”

    • Obama: Dubya II Electric Boogaloo

      I agree. Can someone point out where a right winger actually called her a spic?

      Unfortunately, this is becoming common place in the Obama era, specifically that any critique of a ‘minority” obviously makes one a “racist”. Does anyone really expect the GOP to say, “Hey Obama, excellent pick on the SC! Major thumbs up Bro!”? Gimme a break.

      My hope is that I will take the good from my experiences and extrapolate them further into areas with which I am unfamiliar. I simply do not know exactly what that difference will be in my judging. But I accept there will be some based on my gender and my Latina heritage.

      I would respond to this but my answer would probably be based on my gender and white heritage….

      • Tn Indie

        Exactly, that’s my point in the comment above.

        All SCOTUS nominees have been subjected to scrutiny and tough vetting by the opposing political party. I haven’t heard anyone on the right attack her for being hispanic.

      • ame

        Unfortunately, this is becoming common place in the Obama era, specifically that any critique of a ‘minority” obviously makes one a “racist”.

        That must make me a self hating person then. I’m American but my father is from Peru.

        • Baba Rum Raisin

          Peru is one of Indiana’s nicer towns!

      • tek

        DubyaII: I sympathize. What is it with these Latinas? And their “heritage?” That statement worries me a little. I never knew a hispanic person who didn’t believe hispanic culture is the absolute best and the ones who’ve come into the U. S. truly hope to change our country into a hispanic country.

        Still, I’m not sure what cases could come before her that would allow her hispanic heritage to influence her decision, unless it would be that it’s not really a crime for hispanics to enter the U. S. illegally?

      • bbanzai

        Good call, Dubya II. It’s all just part of the of the decline and fall of the U.S.A. – Rotting from within, a la the Roman Empire. Both Republicans and Democrats, swine that they are, are complicit in our destruction.

  • ame

    …and where did you see this?
    “Hey, what do you expect of some Puerto Rican broad?”
    That’s really bad.

  • Ellen D

    Thanks, Larry, for the above:

    As a matter of fact, I teach a couple of her decisions in my intellectual-property courses, because they are scholarly, clear, and fair-minded.

    I was concerned about her position on Intellectual Property and this will make me research her more.

    Anyone who lived through Nixon’s Saturday Night Massacre will remember Bork. His action there did him in.
    I don’t equate the firing of the Watergate Special Prosecutor when 3 people before him refused to do so and resigned on principle, as being the same as the petty personal actions that are now being used to attack nominees.

    • Ellen D

      Whoops – reverse that block quote. I need more coffee.

      • tek

        Ellen: are you a law professor? My husband’s a law professor.

  • http://noquarterusa.net/ SusanUnPC

    From DCMediaGirl’s post last week, here’s a sampling of Limbaugh’s attitude:

    The man has demonstrated, in his own words, that he has some, shall we say, issues. Consider this disgusting, disrespectful and demented excerpt from one of his radio shows:

    Limbaugh even thinks anal rape is funny when it’s no joke. He’s played testimony from a rape trial just for laughs; here he is talking about a rape victim:

    LIMBAUGH: Now she’s on the stand in our first video clip here trying to explain when this happened. I think she got raped or some such thing like that, and — and she’s trying to explain to the jury and the judge and all the lawyers, everybody in court, how it happens. And — well, just watch. It speaks for itself.

    Unidentified Woman: He lifted my nightgown and he put his finger in my rectum …

    Falls forward

    Laughter

    Unidentified Voice: … unintelligible

    End of excerpt; laughter

    LIMBAUGH: I’m so — I’m so — I’m trying not to laugh, as you can see …

    I would hope that those of you who are proud to consider yourselves feminists, as I do, find this sort of thing repellant.

    • elise

      Thank you for repeating the post by DCMediaGirl. Limbaugh is repellent. He makes his appeal to the ugly and virulent then excuses his words by claiming he is just an “entertainer”. He mocks the intelligence of his listeners and calls them “ditto heads” and perhaps they are since they don’t seem to realize they are being insulted.

      But, his worst offenses are against women. He encourages his listeners to disrespect women and that isn’t a joke or entertainment.

  • tango

    I don’t know Obamas reasoning for choosing Sotomayor. I think it’s a combination of feeling she’s qualified while also giving America it’s first Hispanic White Supreme Court Justice. It’s not nice to say, but sometimes I wonder if Obama makes the choice he makes because he feels it will be documented in the history books that he was the “first” to do it.

    As for her temperment and all that, there are conflicting opinions both ways that reflect both good and bad upon her behavior:

    http://www.tnr.com/politics/story.html?id=45d56e6f-f497-4b19-9c63-04e10199a085

    http://www.tnr.com/politics/story.html?id=6168aeb7-9869-43eb-b401-2204a0d84478

    I think the gist is that she’s competent and qualified and a fine candidate but not an exceptional candidate. She’ll be confirmed, no doubt about that.

    • http://noquarterusa.net/ SusanUnPC

      Hi, Tango. It is what it is. And there isn’t a single act in the history of mankind that hasn’t been political. Every decision each of us makes every day of our lives is political.

      I’ve been watching all of the old West Wings on Bravo — I missed the show the first time around. One of the great lessons of that show is that, for all their ideals and all their dreams and hopes for the nation, President Bartlet and his staff are constantly forced to make decisions that are political, and often forced to make decisions that are compromises or personally repellant to them. The entire series is an excellent lesson in the cruel reality of politics.

      Obama surely felt compelled to nominate a woman and preferably a Latina. Thankfully, he had his choice of numerous eminently qualified candidates. I don’t envy him his having to choose among that “short list” candidates — every one of them would have been superb choices.

      • tango

        I agree, it’s all politics at the end of the day. I think Sotomayor is a fine choice and I’m really much more interested in his next nominee when Ginsburg retires.

        I know there is some question about the number of her decisions that have been appealed to the Supreme Court. Her record there is not necessarily outstanding. Of the 7 decisions, one is pending, 5 were overturned by the SC and one was upheld with the court unanimously rejecting her reasoning.

        http://oneconservativevoice.blogspot.com/2009/05/sotomayor-cases-reviewed-by-supreme.html

    • FranSC

      One of the Fox reports tonight said choosing Sotomayor was to satisfy the Hispanic voters because B0 does not plan to fight very hard for imigration reform.

      Doesn’t surprise me at all. He is such a player.

  • OxyCon

    I guess I really am a racist, too. As a white male, it’s now time for me to go have a sex change operation and get a phony tan so I can be more wise, have a richer life and come to better conclusions than my present self.

    One thing is for sure, it’s going to be really interesting hearing Sotomayor explain just what the hell the “true” context of her stupid comment was.

    Lastly, why don’t the Democrats ever get called out on their racism? An ABC reporter called Bush’s pick for Circuit court, Miguel Estrada who also happened to be Hispanic, an “Affirmative Action candidate”.

    http://newsbusters.org/blogs/tim-graham/2009/05/26/2003-miguel-estrada-was-dismissed-bush-affirmative-action-candidate

    • J.J. (The P.U.M.A.)

      Lets take up a collection here at No Quarter to get OxyCon his sex change operation. Maybe we can put it on a reality television special.

      • Dawnelle

        G.R.O.S.S. TV

        Grow some
        Real
        Ones U
        Sexist
        Swine

        • MN in SN

          Sexist comment.

      • Ferd Berfle

        I’ll contribute the going price for a bot comment–$0.05.

      • ces

        I’m in. Let me check my couch.

        • Ferd Berfle

          LMAO

      • viking

        Jeez guys, OxyCon made a fair point, albeit sarcastically. What’s with ignoring the point?

  • KmX

    President Obama outsmarted the conservatives again. Obama knew he had to pick a hispanic woman but his real pick is actually the Professor Judge. No way this hispanic woman will get confrimation because of her past statements and lack of intellectual depth. This pick is Obama smoke screen. Once her nomination fails, he will blame it on republicans. But here is why Sotomayor is not a bad pick for repubulicans. She appears to be 70% pro life and she lacks legal depth. The Scholars on the SCOTUS will eat her alive.

    Lets be thankful it is not an even futher left liberal up for nomination. All Sotomayor has to do is recant some of her past statements on the appelagate court and racial identity and she is good to go. Do not alow Obama to outsmart you. He only pick this woman to appease hispanics but he knows she will not be confirmed. As bad as this pick appear, it could have been far worse. She lacks the judicial knowledge of the one she is replacing. COnservaties need to foucs on battle sthey can win. Theis nominee is a battle to spend money on.

    On the other hand maybe conservaties are just exposuing faux outrage at this pick. They probaly realize it could have been far worse. I bet secretly most talk show conservatives love this pick because of her lack of legal opinion depth.

    • http://! stodgie

      kmx, maybe obama outsmarted himself!

      • Ferd Berfle

        You may be spot on there. That One is only half as smart as he thinks he is. I’m just waiting for him to paint himself (and hopefully not us) into a corner.

        • http://! stodgie

          think korea ferd!

    • Docelder

      his real pick is actually the Professor Judge

      Now that sounds like Barack. He loves academia, because he thinks he is “in”… and he loves himself. Yes, I said also, I think Sotomayor was intended as a sacrificial lamb. Let the republicans go an and on about her two videos. Let them reject his “moderate” smokescreen. I will repeat myself, in the hopes people who count read this. If she is qualified… take her fast. He has the political capital still to force whoever within reason… so if at all possible… take her. Hopefully by the next time, he will have exhausted his political capital.

  • J.J. (The P.U.M.A.)

    Please give Sean Hannity a pass for saying she was a bully and not very smart. He had her confused with Geraldo Rivera.

    • Dawnelle

      lmao! oh that’s mean

      but funnnnnnnny

      • Dawnelle

        yawn insanity

        lush rimjob

        still O’Lielly

        the yolks of the right

        Kief Olberdouche

        Tweety Matthews

        David Shitzer

        the yolks of the left

        the YOLKs on all of US
        who try to hang ON in the middle

        keep the “free” radicals from tipping over the WHOLE friggen ship of state

        pfffffft

        • oowawa

          LOL Dawnelle, e e cummings would have liked this poem . . .

          • Katmoon

            Thought invoking and provoking of the lolly….
            ROFL

            • Ladydawnelle

              :-)

              my mind is a strange and wonderful place

              (most times)

  • rw

    -Painting her as an Spanish Aunt Jemima-

    Incorrect use of the word “Spanish”.

    • TeakwoodKite

      My munequita, my Spanish Harlem Mona Lisa

      Smooth.

  • Doc99

    I’m happy to be labeled as Conservative. However, my Puerto Rican wife and I have a problem with “Spic.”

    Back to the ad rem discussion of Justice Sotomayor’s judicial philosophy, I find her presence on the Second Circuit panel issuing the unsigned opinion in Didden v Village of Port Chester worrisome.

    I trust the committee will review her feelings on this and other property rights cases ala Kelo in a thorough but fair hearing.

    • TeakwoodKite

      Immigrant goes to America, Many hellos in America.

      Nobody knows in America, Puerto Rico’s in America.

      Westside story ; America.

      • Baba Rum Raisin

        Everything free in America!
        (For a small Fee) in America!

        -WSS

  • http://noquarter foxyladi14

    she will be confirmed ,,

    • http://www.sonicninjakitty.wordpress.com Sonic Ninja Kitty

      She seems very well qualified. I hope she’s payed her taxes.

  • http://syd4.blogspot.com/ SYD

    Judge Sotomayor is an excellent pick.

    We will now watch the GOP alienate yet another voting block. Specifically, Puerto Rican Catholics, but more generally Latinas.

    Exactly who will they have left to vote for them if they keep this up? (I ask that as someone who would like to see Sarah Palin and Micheal Steele win… in 2012!)

    • Ferd Berfle

      I’m just waiting for Richard Cranium Cheney to chime in. He’s done more nonsensical gum-beating in the last couple of months than he did in the 8 years he was the VP-in-hiding under a rock.

    • http://deleted Aaron Kramer

      When you start paying the government 60% of your wages and have the POTUA and SCOTUS tell you it is fair because you are lucky and fortunate to have a job while others live of government aid you might change your mind.

  • rickrickrick

    The GOP will not loose any more Latinos than they have already lost.They are a voting group like Gays who hang on waiting for the ocassional bone. Sotomayor should be challenged for her content, how she has voted in the past and how well she defends her positions. Not because of her gender or race. I am pleased to see a woman, a latino woman, a puerto rican woman picked but not soley for those reasons. And as much as we get to hear Larry Johnson in the raw on his website the Spic” remark is hurtful. ;(

  • shannon

    intellectual depth?!

    stop it, already. these are lawyers, people. i’m not sure clarence thomas or scalia (or barry himself) or any of the rest of them can really be considered the great minds of our country. great intellects don’t actually go into politics and the brightest of the bright, in general, don’t waste their talents in the legal profession.

    whether you like this lady or not depends on where you fall on the issue of the function of the constitution.

    i think there is a semantic debate to be had about her statement about the wisdom of a minority over the wisdom of a white person. the converse of her statement would be considered prejudice by most standards. wisdom is wisdom, so — as a person of color myself — i’m unclear and how a minority will have arrive at a wise or just decisions more frequently than a caucasian woman. she has life experiences that inform her worldview, and her perspective is unique to the position she’s been nominated for.

    i think the republicans should have their hearings, ask tough questions about her decision-making process, and if there is no tactical opening for them to vote against her, then they should confirm her. republicans are in a bad spot, and they really need to pick their battles. this battle is one they’ll have a hard time with in the media. no matter what their issues with her, they’re always going to look like a griping, sour grapes political party. (i’d feel bad for them were it not for that whole GeorgeWMD thing).

    i hope it’s not true that barry is using this pick as a ploy against the republicans.

  • http://frostfirepulse.com/ RichardOn

    Interesting site, but much advertisments on him. Shall read as subscription, rss.

  • ame

    This particular thread reminds me of the way Clinton was treated during the primaries and how accusations of racism were used against her for political gain.

    • Ferd Berfle

      It does have that feel about it.

      IMO, she does need a fair and honest hearing as That One could come up with a real dud for a nominee.

      • Seattle Moss

        I really hope she is not a dud and sails through confirmation….There has been enough women that have been over scrutinized to the point of harming all women.

        • ame

          Sotomayor’s opinion on the firefighter’s case was a dud.

          • Ferd Berfle

            Perhaps, but one opinion does not a career make. I’ve downloaded the opinion and will peruse it later.

      • ame

        Actually, I was referring to false and smearing accusations in reference to those who do not support Sotomayor

        • Ferd Berfle

          Mea culpa. However, I am getting a deja vu feeling about this. First HRC, then Sarah Palin….

          I want her to be fully questioned, as any nominee should be. I only hope it will be a fair hearing.

  • Ferd Berfle

    She does have one thing going for her–she isn’t Harriet Miers. Oof.

  • Seattle Moss

    Folks,
    To the victors go the spoils.
    We all know that whomever Obama picks will legislate from the bench and up till last year that might have been OK for me.
    I am concerned about the constitution, but I’m not really concerned about judge Sonya.
    As a man who has championed woman’s rights at every turn, I welcome this selection as Sonya has had the life experiences that may lead to some good decisions that help ordinary people.

    • Docelder

      Hey Seattle, Good to see you are still among us. I still think this pick was intended as a sacrifice. I think he thought the videos would stop her. The republicans would attack her, and then he puts up Kagan, an intellectual with no little real court experience. This is who I think he really wants. I hope the republicans are smart enough to take the gift of judge Sonya.

      • Seattle Moss

        Hey Doc,
        Folks around here will just have to put up with me as the resident Cheneybot…I guess there are worse things to be, but I can’t think of any right now.

        Republicans need to pick their battles carefully.

        They won on foreign policy last week. This week give the win to Obama and his pick for the supreme court.

        • Docelder

          I was a Cheneybot as well last week, and to be honest, I don’t particularly like the guy and never really have all the way back to Bush I. But, it’s not about popularity. Popularity has put us in the position we find ourselves in now. I still think we… most of us anyway are going to come together for the most part by the time this is done. This being the era of hopenchange.

          • Seattle Moss

            Interesting that I was the biggest Bush hater and look what we got…Obama

            Because my mind is clear and no party owns my vote, I can make the kind of rational decision that once was harder to make because of party affiliation and loyalty.
            Cheney is correct on the dangers facing this country…
            Pragmatism has always been my forte.

            • Cindy

              Seattle—- i agree with you totally about cheney…..and never thought i would EVER say anything good about cheney.
              Your pragmatism serves you well…..even if you are a white male who’ll never be as wise as a wise latina :)

              • Seattle Moss

                Thanks Cindy
                I needed that tonight!

                The world is tired of us white guys…

                In the future you may only find guys like me at the museum.

                • Cindy

                  seattle—that’s what my hubby says, too! But, after seeing the sequel to “Night at the Museum”, I will enjoy the hell out of coming to see both of you!
                  and by the way, Hank Azaria stole the show in the new one (sequel)!

                  • Seattle Moss

                    At the natural history museum they are opening a new exhibit.

                    When white guys ruled the world.

                    Look for me…I will be the big stuffed guy in a suit complete with fedora and briefcase. They may even keep my wing tips polished for posterity purposes.

                    At any rate you will find me down the hall from the Dino exhibit..Enjoy!

                    • Cindy

                      seattle—you are too funny!

                    • Baba Rum Raisin

                      Actually, there IS a place where White Protestant Men still run the show: UTAH!!

                    • http://deleted Betsy Buzz Ross Latte

                      So true! If Harry Reid loses in NV he can go to Utah – oops wrong political party – guess not.

        • http://! stodgie

          seattle, all this hoopla for this judge will pushed to the side shortly with foreign entanglements again. obama is korea challenged as it were.

          • Seattle Moss

            Stodgie,
            You are so correct…Obama and his minions haven’t a clue what’s in store for them. No less than the defense of the western world and the protection of the American sphere of influence.

            Obama has spoken and our enemies are emboldened and soon the real test begins.

            I’m just glad that Darth came out to tell him what the real game is all about.

  • prose

    You slam Hannity for saying she’s a bully when you give a pass for James Rosen in TNR essentially said the same thing and Andy Mccarthy too has a post in the Corner saying he has heard nasty stuff about her being a bully. Looks like she DOES have temperament problems and many people have been saying that, not just Hannity. What low bar for sexism it is to call someone a sexist, if they comment on temperament and character without implying anything for the wider gender.

    I suppose you expect Republicans to lay down play dead for the liberals to walk over. If they don’t do that, they are sexist or racist. Expected better commentary from a site like this.

    • AnneinPa

      Hannity got all his info. from Rosen and he says
      that today on his radio show.

      So all the negative stuff did not originate from
      Hannity, he’s just using it to serve his purposes!

      She’ll be brutally beaten up, but I think she’ll
      get the job with all the Dems. supporting her.

      We don’t know everything yet about her, but you
      know we will….sigh With the information we have
      about her so far, I think she’ll do. First agreement
      with Obama for me!

  • yttik

    I think she’s a well qualified, highly experienced, centrist. So centrist in fact, a real liberal would call her right leaning, but by the time the Republicans have finished wailing about what a liberal activist she is, the Left will have convinced themselves they have actually “won” something.

    • Ferd Berfle

      I concur. A lot of those right-wingers that you speak of are so far to the right that Franco himself would have been called a flaming liberal.

    • lorac

      I’m also still learning about her – but right now I’m thinking she’s not so much a centrist, as someone who has beliefs on both sides of the aisle – maybe some far left and some far right?

      When I was a dem, I always knew the answers, I just agreed with other dems. Now that I’m an independent, I have to listen to both sides and grapple with the issue, and it takes me longer. But I think it’s better this way.

  • KmX

    It appeasr she maybe a Pro Life Catholic.

    • John Smith

      You would think that being Catholic would make you automatically pro life but I guess that is not always the case.

      • Seattle Moss

        Catholics never run lock step with the pope
        The pope only lays down laws that we can aspire to live for, but more often than not do not reach.

  • mountainaires

    The more I see and read of Sonia Sotomayor, the more I like her. She’s forthright and authentic. She’s not a political ideologue.

  • David

    5 of her 6 rulings that made it to the Supreme court were overturned,…Man or Woman, White or Hispanic,…Thats a problem.

    • OGLiberal

      That’s not correct. Out of 6 of her rulings that went before the SCOTUS, three were overturned. Overall, 75% of the cases heard before the SCOTUS are overturned. SCOTUS mostly takes cases that they “want” to overturn – otherwise, why bother hearing them just to affirm the decision of the lower court. Sometimes, the argument presented causes the justices to affirm rather than overturn, but overturning lower court cases is the norm and not the exception on the Big Bench. As for Sotomayor, she’s actually batting .500, better than the average.

      And even if 5 of the 6 were overturned – again, that’s not the case – is the SCOTUS infallible? Do they get every decision right?

  • John Smith

    I agree with you 100% just because Hannity speaks out against her does not make him a sexist automatically.

    If a white man would have mad the comments about Latino women that she has mad about white man in general he would have been ripped a new one here. So I just see a double standard here.

    My last point. Education and what type of grades you got in college does not exactly mean that you are someone who will make the right decisions on the bench. I think that has been proven by the banking crisis. I am sure that all the management at the banks had really fancy degrees and did really well in school.

    • Ferd Berfle

      I think that has been proven by the banking crisis. I am sure that all the management at the banks had really fancy degrees and did really well in school.

      It wasn’t the degrees, advanced or otherwise that did the banks in but the good-old-boy network that turned a blind eye to the shenanigans.

      Most fields of endeavor require degrees and for good reason.

      • John Smith

        My point exactly. Having a degree does not say much at all except that you are very good a book work. It is a person’s actions and accomplishments that really matter.

        • ConfusedAmerican

          Hey look at the Degree Obama supposively has, he barely used it for law.
          Then look at Michelle’s degree.

          Nope a degree doesnt mean a hill of beans

        • QueenofHearts

          I’m going to have to speak up here for all people who have worked hard and spent a lot of money to attain their college and graduate degrees. It does mean more than a hill of beans. If it didn’t, why the constant hue and cry against inequities in education? Why are stupefying amounts of money given to disadvantaged students to erase these inequities as the quickest road to erasing economic inequities?

          I feel these days like I am living in the age of McCarthy. ‘Racist’ is the new ‘Communist’. Or the rise of the Third Reich and ‘rich white people’ (basically defined now as any Caucasian family with a roof over their head, food in the fridge, a car in the driveway and a little put aside for their children’s ‘fancy’ degrees) are the new ‘Jews’.

          Who are our society’s current devils? People with ‘fancy’ degrees. Families in urban areas who bring in $250,000. Anyone who has worked hard during their lives and succeeded. Anyone who isn’t on the public dole. Small business owners who generate jobs and income for other people. Fat people. Anyone who believes in God instead of Obama. People who think the Constitution is important (you know – those racist deadender teabaggers).

          Unless, of course, you are the Obamas or a Democratic member of Congress. They are exempt from these standards of ‘evil’, of course. Although they may make 10 times as much as the ‘rich’ families they now target, that is well deserved compensation and not ill-gotten, unlike the $250K the small business owner may take home after a year of risk-taking, hard-working job generation. No, that is ‘evil’ incarnate, and the small business owner must pay for his/her sins.

          I am, frankly, sick to death of all the lying, scum-sucking hypocrisy.

          • Portia Elizabeth

            Well said!

          • Ferd Berfle

            I’m going to have to speak up here for all people who have worked hard and spent a lot of money to attain their college and graduate degrees. It does mean more than a hill of beans.

            Thank you, Queen of Hearts. I worked hard, earning a degree in Chemistry and Philosophy, which aren’t exactly courses in Basket Weaving. I work with a lot of very intelligent people who also worked hard getting their degrees. In addition, there are many who post here who are quite intelligent, many with advanced degrees–that is one reason why I come here. It beats reading some of the hogwash that passes as intelligent repartee on other websites.

            To paraphrase Socrates, “The truly wise man knows he is ignorant”. (Which is one among many reasons to enroll in college).

    • Chris

      You mean we actually get to see her college records? Wow, that’s a new thing. Good to know someone aspiring to one of the highest, most powerful positions in American govt. is not afraid to show her past. My, my will wonders never cease.

  • Katmoon

    Regarding Rulings-time to do some reading

    Previous rulings

    1994 baseball strike

    On March 30, 1995, as a district judge, Sotomayor issued the preliminary injunction against Major League Baseball, preventing MLB from unilaterally implementing a new Collective Bargaining Agreement and using replacement players. Her ruling ended the 1994 baseball strike after 232 days, the day before the new season was scheduled to begin. The Second Circuit upheld Sotomayor’s decision and denied the owners’ request to stay the ruling.[5][18][42]

    Copyright

    In New York Times Co. v. Tasini, freelance journalists sued the New York Times Company for copyright infringement for the New York Times’ inclusion in an electronic archival database (LexisNexis) the work of freelancers it had published. Sotomayor (who was then a District Judge) ruled that the publisher had the right to license the freelancer’s work. This decision was reversed on appeal, and the Supreme Court upheld the reversal; two dissenters (John Paul Stevens and Stephen Breyer) took Sotomayor’s position.[43]

    In Castle Rock Entertainment, Inc. v. Carol Publishing Group, Sotomayor ruled that a book of trivia from the television program Seinfeld infringed on the copyright of the show’s producer and did not constitute legal fair use. The United States Court of Appeals for the Second Circuit upheld Sotomayor’s ruling.

    Abortion

    In Center for Reproductive Law and Policy v. Bush,[44] Sotomayor upheld the Bush administration’s implementation of the Mexico City Policy which requires foreign organizations receiving U.S. funds to “neither perform nor actively promote abortion as a method of family planning in other nations”. Sotomayor held that the policy did not constitute a violation of equal protection, as the government “is free to favor the anti-abortion position over the pro-choice position, and can do so with public funds”.[45]

    First Amendment rights

    In Pappas v. Giuliani,[46] Sotomayor dissented from her colleagues’ ruling that the NYPD could terminate an employee from his desk job who sent racist materials through the mail. Sotomayor argued that the First Amendment protected speech by the employee “away from the office, on [his] own time,” even if that speech was “offensive, hateful, and insulting,” and that therefore the employee’s First Amendment claim should have gone to trial rather than being dismissed on summary judgment.

    In Dow Jones v. Department of Justice,[47] Sotomayor sided with the Wall Street Journal in its efforts to obtain and publish a photocopy of the suicide note of former White House Counsel Vince Foster. Sotomayor ruled that the public had “a substantial interest” in viewing the note and enjoined the Justice Department from blocking its release.

    Second Amendment rights

    Sotomayor was part of the three-judge Second Circuit panel that affirmed the district court’s ruling in Maloney v. Cuomo.[48] Maloney was arrested for possession of nunchakus, which are illegal in New York; Maloney argued that this law violated his Second Amendment right to bear arms. The Second Circuit’s per curiam opinion noted that the Supreme Court has not, so far, ever held that the Second Amendment is binding against state governments. On the contrary, in Presser v. Illinois, a Supreme Court case from 1886, the Supreme Court held that the Second Amendment “is a limitation only upon the power of Congress and the national government, and not upon that of the state.” With respect to the Presser v. Illinois precedent, the panel stated that the recent Supreme Court case of District of Columbia v. Heller (which struck down the district’s gun ban as unconstitutional) “does not invalidate this longstanding principle.” Thus, the Second Circuit panel upheld the lower court’s decision dismissing Maloney’s complaint.[49]

    Fourth Amendment rights

    In N.G. ex rel. S.G. v. Connecticut,[50] Sotomayor dissented from her colleagues’ decision to uphold a series of strip searches of “troubled adolescent girls” in juvenile detention centers. While Sotomayor agreed that some of the strip searches at issue in the case were lawful, she would have held that due to the “the severely intrusive nature of strip searches,” they should not be allowed “in the absence of individualized suspicion, of adolescents who have never been charged with a crime.” She argued that an “individualized suspicion” rule was more consistent with Second Circuit precedent than the majority’s rule.

    In Leventhal v. Knapek[51], Sotomayor rejected a Fourth Amendment challenge by a Department of Transportation employee whose employer searched his office computer. She held that “[e]ven though [the employee] had some expectation of privacy in the contents of his office computer, the investigatory searches by the DOT did not violate his Fourth Amendment rights” because here “there were reasonable grounds for suspecting” the search would reveal evidence of “work-related misconduct.”

    Employment discrimination

    Sotomayor was a member of a Second Circuit panel in a high-profile case that upheld without significant comment a lower court decision backing the right of the City of New Haven to throw out its promotional test for firefighters and start over with a new test, because the City believed the test had a “disparate impact” on minority firefighters and it might therefore be subject to a lawsuit from minority firefighters under Title VII of the Civil Rights Act of 1964 if it certified the test results. (No black firefighters qualified for promotion under the test, whereas some had qualified under tests used in previous years.) Several white firefighters who had taken the test sued the City of New Haven, claiming that their rights were violated because the test was thrown out.[52][53] The case was recently heard by the U.S. Supreme Court as Ricci v. DeStefano,[54] and a ruling has not yet been issued.

    Antitrust

    In Clarett v. National Football League[55] Sotomayor upheld the NFL’s eligibility rules requiring players to wait three full seasons after high school graduation before entering the NFL draft. Maurice Clarett challenged these rules, which were part of the collective bargaining agreement between the NFL and its players, on antitrust grounds. Sotomayor held that Clarett’s claim would upset the established “federal labor law favoring and governing the collective bargaining process.” She wrote: “We follow the Supreme Court’s lead in declining to ‘fashion an antitrust exemption [so as to give] additional advantages to professional football players . . . that transport workers, coal miners, or meat packers would not enjoy.’”

    • Retired

      Thanks. Judges should be evaluated on their judgements.

    • elise

      Thanks for all your research, Katmoon. The ruling on abortion troubles me somewhat. If she is confirmed, she will be the sixth Catholic on the court. Being familiar with the triangulation of Pelosi and Biden, it’s impossible to say definitively whether she’ll support the pro-life agenda or how that part of her “Heritage” would influence her vote on abortion issues.

      On the anti-trust vote she quoted established law in her decision. However, Chief Justice Roberts said he would respect established law on Roe, but he has no trouble ruling in favor of laws limiting the right of choice.

      As far as her comment, I don’t think I’ve ever seen so many hysterical white males. Who has controlled our halls of justice and government for over two hundred years? What the rest of us think has only mattered if our numbers were large enough to make a difference in elections or polls, but after the votes were counted, we no longer mattered.

      We all make decisions based on our life experiences and our heritage. All judges do that to an extent. I’ve heard remarks from Scalia talking about his Catholic/Italian background and Thomas on his experience as an African American. A woman hasn’t the right to say her gender or ethnicity may provide a different perspective or that she will rely on her background in addition to academia when she makes a decision?

      If something else comes out which sinks her nomination, other than the ridiculous brouhaha over her comment, I will have suspicions re the sincerity of the nomination and backroom deals. Obama’s “team” doesn’t have a good record on vetting. I want another woman on the court and if Ruth Bader Ginsburg has to retire due to illness, I want a woman to replace her, but I know from the election not all women will protect my rights.

      • viking

        This is not the troubling issue about her mindset. The troubling issue is that she certainly understands (with her education) the concept of separation of powers, but believes that its wrong. She spoke plainly and approvingly about enacting policy from the bench. My guess is that she’s equally disdainful of the principle of federalism.

        That said, she’ll be an ineffectual member of the Court who will largely be counted on to side with left positions. Do I like someone nominated who eschews the principle of separation of powers? NO. Can I live with it hoping she’ll be less worse than the next nominee who will hopefully be blocked? YES.

  • Joe Nunya

    Its not just the conservatives that are obsessed with her race/gender, the WHOLE mainstream media is obsessed with it. “Obama Nominates Latina”.

    And isn’t it funny how Larry uses Hannity and Limbaugh to mask his endless hypothetical racial insults….that NO ONE SAID BUT LARRY!

    All that nutty stuff was rolling around in your head…along with all the endless white male guilt.

    • http://! stodgie

      tell you the truth joe, i think your comments are very racist. if a white person wrote something like that,the furor would never end. shame!

    • http://! stodgie

      joe, please ignore my comment. i apologize. hangs head. i need to learn to read and eat dinner at dinner times. lo siento mucho!

  • Katmoon

    Confirmation Documents

    Source:
    documents.nytimes.com/judge-sonia-sotomayor-confirmation-documents#p=1

  • basil

    John Smith,

    “If a white man would have mad the comments about Latino women that she has mad about white man in general he would have been ripped a new one here.”

    I agree. More identity politics. More racist insults if we don’t agree with her as the selection. i feel sick. Her attitude about ‘white men’ is outrageous and she has made her position known publicly and proudly. Her stance on the New Haven white male firefighters is an outrage. Her reference to herself as a ‘wise Latina woman” is nauseating.

    I confess, as an anarchist femihist (snark – I have my own political party of one just like my religion of one) I have never been a fan of white male patriarchy but what is goping on now in this country is simply obscene.

    And as a white woman, an HRC supporter, I’ve been under the bus my entire life.

    I think Sotomayer is an absolute disgrace, the Latina equivalent of Mifcelle, the legal equivalent of Garafolo. Absolutely disgusting. I guess the only thing I can be grateful for these days is that I’m not a white male and believe me I NEVER thought I’d be saying that.

    I’m also doubly grateful I’m no longer working in the urban school system.

    You have my condolences.

  • Katmoon

    If you are interested in educating yourself on Judge Sotomayor’s Decisions for the Us court of Appeals, 2nd District

    you go to

    Source: http://www.ca2.uscourts.gov/opinions.htm

    Use “sotomayor” as your (Enter Docket #, Date, Party Name
    or find decisions that contain:) key word

  • Katmoon

    There are 687 cases.

  • Palm Tree

    Second, I would hope that a wise Latina woman with the richness of her experiences would more often than not reach a better conclusion than a white male who hasn’t lived that life.

    The striking part of the comment and why it will be ignored by the media: It’s now perfectly acceptable to denigrate the “white male” these days. Look at the television commercials of today for example – the white male is always either slightly an idiot, or an outright buffoon, while the African American man plays the part of calm, cool, and informed. Whites are carefully placed in service industry representations in commercials, while they serve blacks patrons. And wherever crimes are portrayed like muggings, burglaries, etc., it is virtually always white males who are the perps. Where there is a garbage truck going down the road? It’s two white guys riding on the back picking up a black man’s trash. This is the state of the media that, in a very big way, shapes perception in this country.

    Sotomayor’s quote above is perfectly in line with this portrayal of the White male as a clueless buffoon, while “people of color” are “wise.”

    I’m calling BULLSHIT on this nonsense! Enough!!

    • http://! stodgie

      palm tree, i too find some of her comments very offensive. i make no apology for being white and respect other ethnic groups. i don’t care if she is hispanic. good for her. it her attitude and how that translates that i find worrisom.

  • Katmoon

    My apologies for all the links, however, it would seem prudent to read and study for yourself if you want to know the previous rulings of Judge Sotomayor. That is what I want to know about, her career, and how she handled the cases before her~ not interpreted by the self interest serving politicians, and talking heads.
    The U.S. District court Cases are only available on PACER, as Judge Sotomayor was there from 1992-1998.
    FYI- You can read for free there, but the site charges for copies.

    Pacer source:

    http://pacer.psc.uscourts.gov/

    • oowawa

      Thanks, Katmoon, for providing all the links & info! You’re helping us all to get a better sense of who this woman is.

  • http://deleted Aaron Kramer

    This is a childish exercise Larry. If decisions of law change based on who the complatant is should trouble everyone because justice is blind. Larry if you think her experience will make her a better follower of the law then I say “great.” if you think her experience will allow better insight into interpreting the law and making it something it is not than I say “no good.” 2 + 2 should not have a different answer depending on the day.

    Laws are for the legislature and the court should only consider whether the law is viable under the constitution. Legislatures are paid to be empathetic and justices are paid to be blind, in fact it is in their oath. I’m sure this doesn’t matter to her or you and that she will disregard the oath once she is in office but it affect those who contest cases in front of her.

    • Ferd Berfle

      Larry if you think her experience will make her a better follower of the law then I say “great.” if you think her experience will allow better insight into interpreting the law and making it something it is not than I say “no good.” 2 + 2 should not have a different answer depending on the day.

      Everyone has their own perspective, including judges. It is about the human element involved in any human endeavor or decision-making process. We could just compartmentalize and digitize all the previous rulings and allow computers to decide. That way 2+2 would then always be 4 with zero exceptions. I rather doubt anyone wants that. As for your comment on interpretation, all judges of necessity interpret the law as it is their job; it is even more important especially considering how poorly the laws are written. If you ever read some of the crap coming out of Congress (Republican or Democratically-controlled), you’d get my drift.

      • http://deleted Aaron Kramer

        I agree that laws are intentionally written in that fashion in order to please the lobbyists and their masters. My big problem is that we seem to be falling into a pattern that assumes only those with identical features and characteristics can understand those with a similar past. This runs counter to most liberal, thought and educational study which emphasizes education as the one of many ways to broaden and expand ones horizons. Read the book “the Trouble with Diversity,” Walter Benn Michaels. As a white male who views people by what they bring to the table(especially in politics) I am always troubled that I am frequently a lonely traveler down this road.

        • Ferd Berfle

          I understand your point. All I am saying is that everyone has a bias peculiar to them as unique individuals.

    • Docelder

      because justice is blind

      That is the ideal, however it doesn’t really exist. Justice is not blind, but it doesn’t see color or gender so much as it sees money and power. What many interpret as race and gender bias is in reality a variant of the old golden rule. He who has the gold makes the rules.

  • Dani

    I’m surprised to see so much salivating here at NQ at the thought of Republicans blowing a gasket over BO’s pick.

    I mean really…aside from the usual suspects (Hannity, Rush et al) most of the Republicans/conservatives I’ve been listening to
    today felt her pick was predictable and assume she will be confirmed.

    • Jules

      You’re saying this because you are obviously a rational person, who has paid attention to the reality of actual words and events. Others are simply imagining what Republicans’ feelings must be, because they KNOW that ALL Republicans are racists, and they MUST be thinking something racist by definition. So they are surely ALL going around, throwing out the racist terms such as Larry has imagined, like “most evil spic ever”.

      The only racist terms I ever hear are coming from Democrats making accusations against Republicans. Funny I’ve never actually heard it from a real Republican. Only these fictiional racist Republicans we all hear so much about.

      • lorac

        I went to a seminar today in which they said that the term “children having children” was racist. Of course, most kids having babies are caucasian, but they didn’t let the facts stop them.

        I just sat there shaking my head. So how in the world are people who are trying to get 13 and 14 years olds to put off pregnancy supposed to refer to the issue they are dealing with???

        Everything is racist.

  • warehouse553

    Is it true that 5 of 7 cases that this Judge has presided over have been overturned? If it is, this is a big problem.
    Wasn’t her position on that firefighter case overturned? Did she side with the city discriminating against white firefighters denying them a promotion because their black counterparts could not pass the test?

    • lorac

      I think the white (one hispanic white) who technically passed the test but were denied promotion are working on an appeal – don’t think it’s happened just yet.

    • lorac

      I think the whites (one hispanic white) who technically passed the test but were denied promotion are working on an appeal – don’t think it’s happened just yet.

      • viking

        The appeal is pending before the U.S. Supreme Court. A ruling is expected by the end of June. This 2nd Circuit Court ruling will be overturned. Go ahead, mark my words.

    • OGLiberal

      No, that’s not true. As I noted above, it was 3 of 6 cases. Overall, 75% of the cases heard before the SCOTUS are overturned (see my post above for more info). She’s batting .500, better than average.

      The Ricci case was heard but not decided yet by SCOTUS. They’ll likely overturn. Sotomayor was part of a panel that decided to affirm the decision of a lower court. That panel did not make the original decision. It was a damned if you do/damned if you don’t case for New Haven – had they used the test scores, they would have been subject to litigation from those who didn’t score high enough – ie, the tests were biased. If they had promoted some of those who didn’t score high enough, they would have been guilty of using race to determine who got promoted. So they through out all the results, promoting nobody. The panel on which Sotomayor was a member didn’t feel there was enough evidence of racial discrimination – since race was not used to promote anybody – so they didn’t overturn the lower court’s decision.

  • cathnealon

    BO made this pick as a totally political move engineered by the beaming Axelrod in the audience at the announcement today. Who really thinks that BO makes a move without his Machiavellian approval If Axelrod told him to nominate Raoul Castro he’d do it–he’s a puppet–no one should give a crap anymore, BO showed himself to be a sexist pig during the campaign ridiculing Palin, implying that HRC was a racist, etc–and all of his nasty gestures and comments towards both. And believe me there are women out there who call themselves liberal feminists but who don’t give a damn about women–look at their records–so it’s not about race, ethnicity, gender, it’s about character as MLK said and we are not there yet.

    • Ferd Berfle

      I agree with you. If anyone should be criticized, it is That One. He’s a puppet and a panderer who isn’t truly qualified to be nominating justices, much less be POTUS. That being said, I’m not certain-yet-about his nominee except to say that I hope she doesn’t get the same treatment HRC and Palin got.

  • Lisa

    What is morally correct? Giving the black firefighter applicants a “leg up” preference over the white fire fighters applicants that did better on their test scores? Preference for what reason?

    To me, the issue is we are not allowing the best qualified candidates access to the job , regardless of racial circumstance. In a society that has struggled to promote racial equality for all and equal opportunity for all for over 40 years, when is it time to say enough. Just because candidates are white, partially white, somewhat black or other, isn’t it time that all stand on their own achievement and record of performance to qualify?

    If, a “person of color” is more qualified than a community minority white or another group, well then they should get the job. Enough with this worry of being discriminatory or partially bias. That age is over. We, the whites of America have toted the line to be overly racially aware, of giving a “leg up” to minority for 40 years. I say “It’s over” – today, everyone has equal opportunity, if not more, now! So let the chips fall as they may. You want that Job? Earn it!

    Whites have been cultured to be racially tolerant for years. Blacks never attended those lessons. It’s now time that we all realize that it’s the character of the applicants, the performance of the applicant and the end results shown than warrants the job. Nothing more.

    • http://! stodgie

      lisa, this is going to the supreme court as i understand it. when it does i fully expect her to excuse herself. is it not required in such instances?

      • http://deleted Betsy Buzz Ross Latte

        That would be assuming that she becomes a member of the Supreme Court.

        If the New Haven firefighter case is overturned by the SCOTUS and ruled in the favor of the plaintiff it could effectively begin the death knell for Affirmative Action. Perhaps not a moment too soon.

    • lorac

      Bill Cosby tried to say this, and he was demonized.

      • viking

        Yup, that’s exactly what happened. The Victim-hood Gravy Train would have none of it.

        • http://! stodgie

          ferd, corruption is an equal opportunity entity. i nominate acorn for consideration. smile!

    • QueenofHearts

      Lisa, I could not agree more.

      My daughter and I were just discussing this case. We concluded that, while we may have some chance of living through an affirmative action presidency, we would really rather not have to rely on affirmative action firefighters who failed the qualifying test to be in charge of saving us from a burning inferno.

  • dee4hill

    I’ve been coming to this site a lot since the 08 primary.

    But, the use of the word “spic” is completely unnecessary. And frankly, insulting to me as a Hispanic…no matter what the intention is.

    Republicans are not attacking her because she is Hispanic.

    This is very Daily Kos-like.

    Please consider amending the title of this post.

    • ConfusedAmerican

      I have to admit that I found the title offensive myself and was shocked that they let it in much less used it as a title.

    • lorac

      Dee, hi! You went from Dee4Hill to Dee4USA and now you’re back to Dee4Hill? I’m glad :) I’ll never forget watching Hillary on TV with you just behind her with your red boxing gloves! I love that image!

      • Portia Elizabeth

        I remember that, too. Good to see you again, Dee.

    • listing starboard

      I agree. I have never heard or read the terms “spic” or “nigger” from any reasonable conservative blogger and am shocked at this post. It is not racist to examine her past decisions to determine if she is a good fit for a job she may very well hold for a very long time.

  • http://liberalrapture.com/ John (from Liberal Rapture)

    We all must avoid the ninnies on the far right – and far left for that matter – I hope she gets a tough, fair hearing.

  • steel magnolia

    Wow, Larry – your last few posts have been full of rage! Have you considered anger management class?

    • Retired

      Larry’s just a white male. He can’t be expected to reach a good conclusion, at least according to the new nominee. Just let him rant.

    • TeakWoodKite

      I would suggest a favorite golf course LJ has not played.

  • http://deleted Betsy Buzz Ross Latte

    Cindy, I agree. I haven’t listened to one full hour of Limbaugh ever and yet I know that he is provocative and a windbag entertainer.

    However, what Reid, Pelosi, Axelrod, and OBAMA have done to damage this country far outweighs anything Limbaugh has ever done.

    My loyalty as a thirty plus year member of the democratic party was absolutely pissed on by those corrupt usurpers.

    I will never forget. Independent I became and I will never vote party line again. Therefore Obama will never get my vote.

    There’s no amount of good done by them that will balance the corruption that was perpetrated that day.

  • http://deleted Betsy Buzz Ross Latte

    Seattle Moss: How about men defending women against attacks by other women. Women are increasingly hostile to other women – I will not get into my personal theory but…

    It seems to be a phenomena especially if the woman in question defends, teases, or enjoys the company of men – real men.

    I’ve been put down a few times by other women for not feeling animosity against men.

    What is another man’s perspective regarding that? Just curious. My hubby says to ignore it.

    Gawd this is beginning to sound like Dear Abby! LOL! Sorry!

    • Seattle Moss

      How about men defending women against attacks by other women. Women are increasingly hostile to other women

      Buzz..
      Have you ever felt that you were powerless,that you were suffocating,that you were witnessing a tragedy right before your very eyes.

      That’s how I felt about Hillary.
      As a guy I was speechless and sick to my stomach at the attacks against Hillary by other women. Beyond shocked and depressed that I had put so much into seeing a woman become president.
      I used to walk around proclaiming that 2008 would be the year of the woman. Boy was I wrong!
      That’s just Hillary. I haven’t even begun to talk about Sarah.

      It seems to be a phenomena especially if the woman in question defends, teases, or enjoys the company of men – real men.

      I’ve been put down a few times by other women for not feeling animosity against men.

      This question is difficult to answer. My company has more women in positions of authority than any in the industry. My partners 25 years ago were the first to make a woman an outside sales rep. Years later our company was the first to hire a woman as a plant manager. We have women throughout the company in charge of shipping and payroll etc.
      What I have discovered since most know of my keen interest in politics and witnessed my support of women such Hillary last year ,is that these woman compete and try to destroy each other in subtle ways right in front of me. I always understand the moods of a woman and also compensate for their outside distractions such as family but despite all the opportunities they still have to tear each other down to compete which they don’t have to because they are all my favorite.

      • JustMe~~

        (Some) women are their own worst enemy…

      • http://deleted Betsy Buzz Ross Latte

        Thank-you for your honest comments, Seattle Moss. I observe the same behavior from women. I really would much rather work with men in many instances because there may be a few ribald jokes but at least the fingernails don’t come out! I too was completely disheartened by Hillary’s treatment by other women this past election year. I am not surprised by Sotomayor’s comment about a latina woman being better than a white man. It seems to be how many women think they have to act in order to get ahead. Sad, really.

        I’m not the only woman that feels this way about working with men in the workplace vs working with women, either.

        But again, thank-you for your response.

        And Just Me below – you’re right!

  • http://deleted Betsy Buzz Ross Latte

    Wow I need to know how to move my comments. They keep getting orphaned when others move their comments! LOL!

  • http://www.pricebonus.com/ PB

    Wow I need to know how to move my comments. They keep getting orphaned when others move their comments! LOL!

  • warehouse553

    If the Supreme Court rules in favor of the firefighters will it hurt Sotomayer’s confirmation and will it end affirmative action?

    • Doc99

      It’s entirely possible that the Supreme Court will remand the case back into Sotomayor’s lap – exactly where she did not want this hot potato.

      Those favoring small government might have issues with Sotomayor.

      … But when it comes to her judicial philosophy, there are some real causes for concern. In particular, on the hot-button issues of affirmative action and Second Amendment rights, her record suggests a decidedly illiberal vision of constitutional law.

  • Patience

    Not only is the title of this article offensive, so is the straw man argument that those who don’t favor Sotomayor’s nomination are woman-hating, homophobic racists. Putting offensive words and opinions in broad swaths of peoples’ mouths is wrong. The POTUS himself makes a habit of this.

    As well, I’m sick and tired of Rush Limbaugh being portrayed as the leader and voice of the GOP and/or opposition. I guess the POTUS’ campaign to create this perception is working if NQ writers have fallen for it. I’m not even a Republican yet I find it ludicrous.

    IMO Sotomayor’s remark about “wise Latina” womens’ judgement vs. that of white males (the only politically-correct fair game these days, it seems) invited criticism. Still, I’m reserving judgement until I know and understand more about her judicial record. Hopefully her decisions will show she has more to recommend herself than her gender and ethnicity.

  • BARB

    “Ricci (which in any event will be decided by the Supreme Court any day now) involved the decision of the City of New Haven, Connecticut, to throw out a promotion test after not a single black applicant passed it. Black applicants were more than one-third of the pool, and the city was terrified of being sued for racial discrimination. It was, but by the test takers who passed. Maybe New Haven overreacted; maybe not.”

    So…it’s illegal to discriminate against Blacks…but OK to discriminate against Whites? If discrimination is wrong for one group…it is wrong for the others.

    • Hg

      Don’t you realize “It is impossible for the minority to be racists”, therefore, it is impossibile to discriminate against whites? That seemed to be the arguement back in the campaigns too. “God Damn AmeriKKKa”.

    • jwrjr

      Either prove that the test was racially biased and throw it out, or let the results stand. The fact that none of the AA test-takers passed proves nothing other than the fact that none of the AA test-takers got a passing score. Throwing out the test solely because some group dislikes the results is racist all by itself.

  • kgirl1028

    I’m sorry but until i hear something about this woman coming out of Conservative talk shows host mouth as off color as the things said about sarah palin, I will refuse to give a damn. I left the democratic plantation last year. If i can demand that the frist African American Male to run for president to present on a major party ticket to his bonifids then i want the first Latina on the courts to show me hers. and republicans need to get over popularity contest and do their damn providing opposition to to check their democratic collegues. One thing i know for sure, they will be dogged out if they say nothing or if they speak their minds. If Rush says he wanted her kidney’s to fail, which the could ver well do since she is a diabetic, then i’ll get pissed.. I rfuse to live in a country were right and wrong isis defined by the R or D beside a persons.

  • MN in SN

    Sorry Larry, she’s a racist with an agenda.
    Getting a rough 50-50 mix of males and females is a legit goal, because there are distinct differences in thinking that women will bring to the court.
    Packing the court with racial or ethnic tokens is nothing more then identity politics and tribal warfare. Have some more white guilt with your coffee.

  • Lisa_NY

    The only one I heard mentioning the words “spic” is YOU , Mr Johnson. I never once heard those words coming from any conservative on the air or tv.
    Shame on you for implying conservatives/ republicans think that way about her.

    • http://NoQuarterUSA.net Larry Johnson

      Lisa,
      You obviously have no appreciation for sarcasm and hyperbole. What several on the right have said is that she is not a smart person. The colloquial term is “stupid” I believe.

      • Don

        Oh Larry, get off it, “sarcasm and hyperbole.” Seems that when you start getting negative comments about what you have written you come up with some sort of excuse; i.e., name calling such as the recent number of “idiot” or “stupid” in responding to critics of something you had written or and now using the CYA play by telling someone they have no appreciation for “sarcasm and hyperbole.” Might buy off on your “sarcasm and hyperbole” statement if you used it on a consistent basis in your writing but frankly I have not noted you using much consistently other than the “idiot” or “stupid” you throw around so readily.

        • kgirl1028

          Beccareful Larry or we will start calling you Charlie Gibson, or Chris Matthews. “What will it take to get people to support the Latina “

  • HC123

    Identity politics makes me sick.

    I can like or dislike people personally and professionally without reference to their DNA. Because they have a certain genetic makeup does not automatically excuse them anything.

    I dont care where Sotomayor comes from, what her parents did, or what her DNA is. I care if she understands the role of the courts vs the role of the legislature (maybe, maybe not based on her own comments) and if she can judge fairly based on the law as written (maybe, maybe not based on her rulings).

    If you like judicial activism then you will probably love Obamas appointees. If you dont you probably wont.

    I do expect Obama to continue to pick them based on race and gender – thats the game he plays. He has since the primaries.

  • hinterlands

    I am white and I am proud of it. This blog is getting phony. Why dont you try listening to the truth instead of the crap being sprewed by your hero, larry johnson ? Rush is right and so is Hannity. A supreme court judge has the power to change our country, keep it up and you will see the “change”. phony, liberals, where is your outrage with Obama and all his “picks” ? Have you all forgotten this usurper ? Everybody he picks comes with white hate and you all know it.

  • http://oneconservativevoice.blogspot.com Alberto

    Hey, you ignorant bigot!

    As a Hispanic who opposes Sotomayor I challenge you to show me one conservative who opposes her because she’s a “spic” or retitle this post.

    I am so sick and tired of you holier-than-thou racist liberals.

  • http://regimeofterror.com Mark E

    good points Larry

  • JOE CAPRIO

    SOTOMAYOR WILL BE CONFIRMED.HER ON ONLY PROBLEM IS SHES A LOOSE CANON.HER OWN WORSE ENEMY. SHE IS TAINTING HER OWN REMARKABLE ACHIVEMENTS WITH STATMENTS NOT CONSISTANT WITH HER STATURE. PEOPLE MAKE STATMENTS LIKE THAT WHEN THEY RUN FOR OFFICE. THEY CERTAINLY DONT MAKE THEM TO CAUSE CONFLICT WITH OTHER JUDGES.THE PRESIDENT SAYS SHE HAS MORE EXPERIENCE THEN THE OTHER JUDGES AND SHE SAYS SHE CAN MAKE BETTER DECISIONS THEN THE SITTING JUDGES.YOU CAN IMAGINE THE THOUGHTS THAT WON’T BE UTTERED WHEN SHE MEETS THEM ALL. SHE IS GOING TO BE APPROVED AND UNDOUBABLY SHE SHOULD BE BUT SHE HAS TO REMEMBER THAT SHES A SPOKE IN THE WHEEL AND NOT THE WHEEL ITSELF. JOE CAPRIO/CITYLIFEPRODUCTIONS

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