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		<title>By: Mr.Murder</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/25196/the-bureaucratic-murder-of-the-cia/#comment-1212135</link>
		<dc:creator>Mr.Murder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Jun 2009 08:25:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Initially the assumption seemed to indicate other agencies(NSA and FBI) were trying to get more people into this field.

The FBI can help a ton in developing people on hard evidence gathering, etc.

NSA continues this because so much of the world is going electronic that SIGINTS can do more than ever.

None of it matters if the process lacks chemistry.
it really doesn&#039;t seem to have a true winner if key ingredients from each group can;t be relied upon to paint a full picture.

The fact remains that human capabilities take the greatest prominence and require people with that kind of experience to develop them. This isn&#039;t an ad in the classifieds or Spam mailing recruitment we&#039;re talking about.

Can you address the tactical strengths of each IC mainstay involved and apply those items to the Company&#039;s handling of human assets? 

Military people directing recruitment of contacts would be a wag the dog kind of action where we end up looking for development of certain justifications.

Also, it&#039;s a bit hard to do anything covert regarding uniformed contacts, it kind of signals who to watch, for the people we want to develop contacts on. We can&#039;t help them in such ways.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Initially the assumption seemed to indicate other agencies(NSA and FBI) were trying to get more people into this field.</p>
<p>The FBI can help a ton in developing people on hard evidence gathering, etc.</p>
<p>NSA continues this because so much of the world is going electronic that SIGINTS can do more than ever.</p>
<p>None of it matters if the process lacks chemistry.<br />
it really doesn&#8217;t seem to have a true winner if key ingredients from each group can;t be relied upon to paint a full picture.</p>
<p>The fact remains that human capabilities take the greatest prominence and require people with that kind of experience to develop them. This isn&#8217;t an ad in the classifieds or Spam mailing recruitment we&#8217;re talking about.</p>
<p>Can you address the tactical strengths of each IC mainstay involved and apply those items to the Company&#8217;s handling of human assets? </p>
<p>Military people directing recruitment of contacts would be a wag the dog kind of action where we end up looking for development of certain justifications.</p>
<p>Also, it&#8217;s a bit hard to do anything covert regarding uniformed contacts, it kind of signals who to watch, for the people we want to develop contacts on. We can&#8217;t help them in such ways.</p>
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		<title>By: CG</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/25196/the-bureaucratic-murder-of-the-cia/#comment-1210792</link>
		<dc:creator>CG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 May 2009 08:37:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Looks like there is a similar battle brewing in cyberspace wars...  &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.nytimes.com/2009/05/29/us/politics/29cyber.html?th&amp;emc=th&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Military&#8217;s new command or the N.S.A., which will actually conduct new offensive cyberoperations?&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Looks like there is a similar battle brewing in cyberspace wars&#8230;  <a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2009/05/29/us/politics/29cyber.html?th&amp;emc=th" rel="nofollow">Military&rsquo;s new command or the N.S.A., which will actually conduct new offensive cyberoperations?</a></p>
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		<title>By: Babs</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/25196/the-bureaucratic-murder-of-the-cia/#comment-1210656</link>
		<dc:creator>Babs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 May 2009 01:59:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My gut tells me the CIA will lose in all of this, and I believe that&#039;s what Obama wants. Come on, Larry is telling us what a huge mistake this would be in terms of the outcome of having unexperienced people at the forefront of our intelligence gathering, who really believes Obama doesn&#039;t want to weaken us in that area? I&#039;m sure Saul Alinsky has a rule for this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My gut tells me the CIA will lose in all of this, and I believe that&#8217;s what Obama wants. Come on, Larry is telling us what a huge mistake this would be in terms of the outcome of having unexperienced people at the forefront of our intelligence gathering, who really believes Obama doesn&#8217;t want to weaken us in that area? I&#8217;m sure Saul Alinsky has a rule for this.</p>
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		<title>By: Retired</title>
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		<dc:creator>Retired</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 May 2009 00:12:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting point.  If the people of the United States are willing to elect a rank amateur as president, why should they give a shit about the qualifications of anyone further down in the ranks?  The paraody movie &quot;Idiocracy&quot; is becoming reality.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting point.  If the people of the United States are willing to elect a rank amateur as president, why should they give a shit about the qualifications of anyone further down in the ranks?  The paraody movie &#8220;Idiocracy&#8221; is becoming reality.</p>
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		<title>By: Retired</title>
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		<dc:creator>Retired</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 May 2009 00:08:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t know about multi-culturalism, but it is an expansion of the &quot;one Agency&quot; theory that started in the CIA in the early 1980s.  Under that theory, all Agency professionals (ops officers, analysts, support officers, S&amp;T types) were considered interchangeable at every level.  It never flew in the Agency because cooler heads prevailed, but the 21st century community-wide version is making considerable headway because there are those who see COS assignments, particularly &quot;cushy&quot; ones like in the European capitals, as reward assignments requiring no prerequisite experience and qualifications rather than jobs where you need to put your most experienced senior people forward to deal with the top intelligence officers of the host country.
The new DNI HR plan doesn&#039;t include contractors, which, by the way, are called &quot;green badgers&quot; because of the background color of their now-standard intelligence community badge.  &quot;Blue badgers&quot; are Federal government employees of IC agencies.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t know about multi-culturalism, but it is an expansion of the &#8220;one Agency&#8221; theory that started in the CIA in the early 1980s.  Under that theory, all Agency professionals (ops officers, analysts, support officers, S&amp;T types) were considered interchangeable at every level.  It never flew in the Agency because cooler heads prevailed, but the 21st century community-wide version is making considerable headway because there are those who see COS assignments, particularly &#8220;cushy&#8221; ones like in the European capitals, as reward assignments requiring no prerequisite experience and qualifications rather than jobs where you need to put your most experienced senior people forward to deal with the top intelligence officers of the host country.<br />
The new DNI HR plan doesn&#8217;t include contractors, which, by the way, are called &#8220;green badgers&#8221; because of the background color of their now-standard intelligence community badge.  &#8220;Blue badgers&#8221; are Federal government employees of IC agencies.</p>
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		<title>By: TeakWoodKite</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/25196/the-bureaucratic-murder-of-the-cia/#comment-1210537</link>
		<dc:creator>TeakWoodKite</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 May 2009 22:30:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Retired, is this another example of the dark side of Multi-cultralism?

Does this include contractors? I think they are called Blue cards?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Retired, is this another example of the dark side of Multi-cultralism?</p>
<p>Does this include contractors? I think they are called Blue cards?</p>
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		<title>By: Ladydawnelle</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ladydawnelle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 May 2009 22:29:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>wow

makes ya wonder why any one in their right mind would ever want to work for this twisted pretzel logic government

I don&#039;t recall this kind of incompetence and disrespect of the constitution and law when I was serving under Jimmy and RayGUN!

Could it be that I was not paying as much attention?  Or have we changed dimensions ?

;;shiver;;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>wow</p>
<p>makes ya wonder why any one in their right mind would ever want to work for this twisted pretzel logic government</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t recall this kind of incompetence and disrespect of the constitution and law when I was serving under Jimmy and RayGUN!</p>
<p>Could it be that I was not paying as much attention?  Or have we changed dimensions ?</p>
<p>;;shiver;;</p>
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		<title>By: Al</title>
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		<dc:creator>Al</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 May 2009 22:20:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting post. Pros and Cons all around I&#039;m sure, but in matters of national security it&#039;s best to go with the experienced and steady hand. A glitch here or a glitch there that can be avoided is in the best interests of the United States. Crossing training a field-goal kicker to play starting quarterback the night before the Super Bowl doesn&#039;t bode well for any team&#039;s chances to win the Vince Lombardi Trophy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting post. Pros and Cons all around I&#8217;m sure, but in matters of national security it&#8217;s best to go with the experienced and steady hand. A glitch here or a glitch there that can be avoided is in the best interests of the United States. Crossing training a field-goal kicker to play starting quarterback the night before the Super Bowl doesn&#8217;t bode well for any team&#8217;s chances to win the Vince Lombardi Trophy.</p>
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		<title>By: TeakWoodKite</title>
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		<dc:creator>TeakWoodKite</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 May 2009 22:17:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>CandyMarl, I agree. Sadly the only buck to stop on BO&#039;s desk is monetary and he will never take responsibility for anything. He never has.

Oh maybe one...the boneheaded move thing, but that was after realizing the only way to play it was to pay it.


Still, Mr. Johnson raises an issue that makes me wonder if BO is being briefed at all. I mean if this came across my plate, it would get squared away long before it became an AP story.

These turf battles get people dead. BO take the heat? HA!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>CandyMarl, I agree. Sadly the only buck to stop on BO&#8217;s desk is monetary and he will never take responsibility for anything. He never has.</p>
<p>Oh maybe one&#8230;the boneheaded move thing, but that was after realizing the only way to play it was to pay it.</p>
<p>Still, Mr. Johnson raises an issue that makes me wonder if BO is being briefed at all. I mean if this came across my plate, it would get squared away long before it became an AP story.</p>
<p>These turf battles get people dead. BO take the heat? HA!</p>
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		<title>By: Ellen D</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ellen D</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 May 2009 21:59:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is insane. There is an uproar now about all the planes that are crashing because the pilots are inexperienced and haven&#039;t put in enough time in the air in the type of plane they are flying. I can&#039;t believe there are no Federal rules on this.

The same should apply to the CIA and Military. Whatever your area of expertise is - only people in that area should be considered and the criteria should be their depth of experience. I thought the CIA did a magnificent job at the beginning in Afghanistan. They obviously knew what they were doing.

This all is the end result of having an amateur President and everyone thinking it&#039;s OK that he had no experience that would qualify him for the job.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is insane. There is an uproar now about all the planes that are crashing because the pilots are inexperienced and haven&#8217;t put in enough time in the air in the type of plane they are flying. I can&#8217;t believe there are no Federal rules on this.</p>
<p>The same should apply to the CIA and Military. Whatever your area of expertise is &#8211; only people in that area should be considered and the criteria should be their depth of experience. I thought the CIA did a magnificent job at the beginning in Afghanistan. They obviously knew what they were doing.</p>
<p>This all is the end result of having an amateur President and everyone thinking it&#8217;s OK that he had no experience that would qualify him for the job.</p>
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		<title>By: Retired</title>
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		<dc:creator>Retired</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 May 2009 21:21:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Larry,

Actually, the situation is even worse than you portrayed it.  Under DNI Human Resources &quot;level playing field, one size fits all&quot; plan, anyone in any member agency of the intelligence community can apply for any COS job.  All would have to be advertised community wide.  A community-wide assignment panel would choose the COS.  Just think of the implications of this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Larry,</p>
<p>Actually, the situation is even worse than you portrayed it.  Under DNI Human Resources &#8220;level playing field, one size fits all&#8221; plan, anyone in any member agency of the intelligence community can apply for any COS job.  All would have to be advertised community wide.  A community-wide assignment panel would choose the COS.  Just think of the implications of this.</p>
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		<title>By: Lawyer from Missouri</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/25196/the-bureaucratic-murder-of-the-cia/#comment-1210483</link>
		<dc:creator>Lawyer from Missouri</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 May 2009 21:04:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Larry,

Since you don&#039;t have to be eligible under the Constitution or have experience to be POTUS, I guess the whole chaos is working to plan for BHO, huh?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Larry,</p>
<p>Since you don&#8217;t have to be eligible under the Constitution or have experience to be POTUS, I guess the whole chaos is working to plan for BHO, huh?</p>
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		<title>By: Hg</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/25196/the-bureaucratic-murder-of-the-cia/#comment-1210459</link>
		<dc:creator>Hg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 May 2009 20:00:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Obama is minding the store. That is why everyone is unsure, and all is chaos. And to quote Obama, &quot;You ain&#039;t seen nothing yet&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Obama is minding the store. That is why everyone is unsure, and all is chaos. And to quote Obama, &#8220;You ain&#8217;t seen nothing yet&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: alibe</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/25196/the-bureaucratic-murder-of-the-cia/#comment-1210448</link>
		<dc:creator>alibe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 May 2009 19:39:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This the Chicago Way....Pay to Play...  Blago inspired, Daley inspired.  Was this car restructuring just a way to fund the Democrat Party?  &quot;Curiouser and curiousier&quot;.  Can one be cynical enough?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This the Chicago Way&#8230;.Pay to Play&#8230;  Blago inspired, Daley inspired.  Was this car restructuring just a way to fund the Democrat Party?  &#8220;Curiouser and curiousier&#8221;.  Can one be cynical enough?</p>
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		<title>By: alibe</title>
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		<dc:creator>alibe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 May 2009 19:31:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OT....But just wanted to bring up BIG news..DEALERGATE.   How Chrysler dealers were shut down because they didn&#039;t donate to Obama and Democrats!....http://directorblue.blogspot.com/2009/05/dealergate-statistical-evidence-that.html

Interesting

Sorry for the Off Topic comment.  Nobody seems to be able to make these torture allegations stick to Obama, but this dealergate....WOW!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OT&#8230;.But just wanted to bring up BIG news..DEALERGATE.   How Chrysler dealers were shut down because they didn&#8217;t donate to Obama and Democrats!&#8230;.http://directorblue.blogspot.com/2009/05/dealergate-statistical-evidence-that.html</p>
<p>Interesting</p>
<p>Sorry for the Off Topic comment.  Nobody seems to be able to make these torture allegations stick to Obama, but this dealergate&#8230;.WOW!</p>
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